Bachelor Happy Hour - Hometown Breakdown with Jared Freid!
Episode Date: March 7, 2024Today on Bachelor Happy Hour we’re back with comedian and “Bachelor” stan Jared Freid, who returns this season to dish on all things hometowns. As always, he has A LOT of opinions! Jared share...s his thoughts on each of the families and how Joey managed each one. Plus, he gives us his predictions of what’s to come for Maria now that her journey with Joey is over. He’ll also confirm what we’re all thinking about Maria's dad (Hint: The man is an icon). Tune in now and make sure to follow so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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hey everyone welcome back to match your happy hour i'm joe and i'm serena and we are here
with the comedian jera buck comedian you are the the comedian
the comedian capital t capital h capital e Jared freed is here welcome to the podcast thank you
both so much for oh thank you both so much for having me it's always a pleasure to speak to
you guys i i i could tell joe got down the
road of a sentence and then found no way
out. I've had that happen. That happens
a lot here. Right, I'm here
with the, what the hell am I saying?
The comedian, I guess that's
where I'm at right now. I love
it. It's so good to see you both. What's going on?
Joe? That
actually happens to me a lot probably because I'm
kind of dumb. That happens to you in daily life where you
start a sentence and I can tell you to have no idea
where it's going to go. It's a mystery to both
of us. Where is this going? But I
always, I would think as a comedian
that that has to be a fair
when you're on stage of like
I'm going to start this
and then kind of go blank
and not know where the fuck I'm going with it.
Dude, it's the worst thing in the world
that happens all the time
and it's not like you don't know
where the sentence is going.
You're like, why am I in this joke right now?
This isn't what I wanted to do at all.
How am I going to get from this subject
to the one I actually want to talk about?
And usually when I'm on stage,
when I'm present, that's when you, it's hard.
You want to believe you're the best version of yourself all the time
But like sometimes I'll be on stage
And I'm thinking of the next joke while doing the words of the joke that I'm currently in
And I'm like you know and you're like well how am I going to get over to
You know my parents from this talk this joke where I'm talking about like
You're just trying to find these bridges so I yeah it's the worst yeah
What were you doing in Toronto recently?
I did shows I was just so you're from Toronto right Serena
I am and my son
Sister follows you. I was talking here today and I was like, oh, Jared
Free's coming on the podcast and she's like, oh, he was just in Toronto and he went to Porchetta
and she's like he got he posted, she said you posted something about getting two sandwiches because
you wanted to try both, but you didn't. I went to Black Camel. I went to Black Camel, which is a
sandwich place. I, I, but I can understand Porchetta sounds like another sandwich pork
place, right? Yeah, it is. Well, it's a pork. So this place, this place black camel is
awesome and it's like this little tiny sandwich place. You know, you got to, you got to
I made a whole video from it's so good it was near the hotel and it was like on a list you know when I go to a city so I did shows in Toronto I'm going weirdly enough I'm going from Toronto to Chicago I'm going from your hometown to Joe's hometown when I go on the road I like to like check out a cool restaurant and it doesn't have to be like the thing they do in that town like I don't need to go to Chicago and get a deep dish like I think that's like it's not like what I'm looking to do I want to go to like a place that people are like this is somewhere I go
on my every day. I love it. I enjoy
it. So I went to two places
and Toronto has probably
one of the best food scenes in the
world. Like there's no
the width of it,
the creativity
of it. I'm like a
super impressed by Toronto. That's a stretch.
It's not a stretch. It's not a stretch.
I love Toronto and I think they have
great food. But one of the best
in the world I would say, I don't know.
Well, I want to know where you went in Toronto.
I know. Okay, so I went to, I did the Danforth Theater. I did Black Camel and then I went to Manita, which was in like what felt like Toronto's Brooklyn. I saw shoes strung up on wires and I was like, okay. And I saw everyone was dressed, you know, homeless chic. And I was like, this must be their Toronto, or their Brooklyn. Manita Cafe was unbelievable. I was a huge fan. So those are my two recommendations. Go to Black Camel. Go to Manita Cafe.
Manita had like a 45 minute wait.
Wow.
We have to pick these places out.
You got to go.
You got to go.
I had the,
I had the soap orsada sandwich, something I would never get.
And listen, I know that's offensive to Joe.
He's like, that's an Italian sandwich.
I'm not going to go to Toronto and have Italian sandwich.
Right.
It was the Italian sandwich.
I'd say one of the top sandwiches I've ever had.
It's on my Instagram right now.
I put it, no, it's on my TikTok.
I put up like the videos.
And your sister saw, tell your sister, thank you for watching me from afar and not getting a ticket to my show.
Always a pleasure to have people.
She's a casual fan.
She's a casual follower.
She's going to decide.
Maybe next time she'll come to the show.
But the shows were, I mean, the audiences in Toronto and Chicago.
I mean, I'm getting the run of my life, Boston, Toronto, and Chicago.
By the time this comes out, I'm going to be in Royal Oak, Michigan, and I'm also going to be in Minneapolis.
And I'm going to be, and I'm doing a whole show about my family.
So, and I know you guys are close with your families, and I know, you know, bringing your families together was like,
this you know different thing and hard and i i think like you know the whole the whole show is an
hour story about going to the going to the beach with my parents and kind of body issues and eating
and how we eat and what we talk about and you know the people that you love the most but you
fight with the most as well so it's been like kind of a true pleasure to do these shows on the
road and like see people connect in like a really cool way and so i i'm happy to be this is all to say
I haven't shut the fuck up.
This is all to say.
I'm happy to be here.
Love Toronto.
Okay.
Let's get into the episode.
Real quick,
I just want to ask you just another comedian question.
Just when are you going to start?
So your special came out on Netflix.
It does really well.
Now you're touring.
When do you start new material?
Like when you start working on, like how long?
What's that process?
How long?
So I think a good special takes two years to, like, figure out, in my opinion.
I taped my special 37 and single on Netflix right now.
You can watch it anytime.
On December 10th, 2022.
Now, that's like the fun of being a comedian and also the scariest part.
You go from December 10th, 2022, you spew out all the jokes that have worked, all the crutches.
all, you know, when you're on stage and you're bombing,
you can go to that joke you have from five years ago.
On December 10th, 2022, you now have zero minutes of material.
And that's like fun.
It was freeing for me because I was doing jokes in the special about when I was 27,
when I was 30, when I was 31, I taped it at 37.
Now I'm at zero and I can talk about anything I want.
And it becomes like, who do you want to be?
What type of comedian do you want to be?
Like, I really do believe that.
And I, you know, I still did material from the special because it wasn't out.
You know, December 11th, 2022, I have time until it comes out.
And at that point, I didn't, it was maybe going to go on YouTube.
Netflix didn't come around until July.
So it came out in August.
I would say August 15th, that's when it came out.
That next weekend, I had a whole new hour to tour with.
It kind of pushed me off the ledge.
So, and it forces you to write if you care.
Some people do a special.
They don't care.
They don't want to be a stand-up comedian.
They kind of want to just do the special
and then do that material forever
and maybe do crowd work.
That's not what I love.
I love telling stories, doing jokes.
And December 11th, I started working on this story
about going on the beach with my parents.
And it went from, and when I really got to work on it,
I went to Europe in May.
I did shows in Dublin, Belfast, London, Copenhagen, Oslo,
Berlin, Amsterdam.
I did all those.
I did a European tour.
And when you do stand-up in Europe, you know, stand-up is an American art form.
It was invented here.
It's one of the few things that is purely American.
So you go there and they do like a different version of it.
It's a little different.
It's a little more story length.
Like you're not going to get a joke.
You know, America, you get jokes every 10 seconds because the audience would literally murder you if they're not laughing.
Right.
This is an American.
USA.
U.S.S.
So I, but in Europe, they kind of give you the opportunity to tell a longer story.
story. So I went there with a 20 minute story about my parents and going to the beach with my
parents. By the end of the three weeks, I was like, I'm at 40 minutes. I think this could be a
full hour. So it came quickly, but then now I'm in this phase of like refining it. I'm going to do
the Vic in Chicago big theater. I'm doing two shows. I'm going to sing dance and dust. I'm going to
bring it. But like there's parts of the story that I'm like still tinkering with. But I think it's
ready now because I'm sitting here, you know, February 29th of 2024.
and you know I'm ready to like tape this I'm ready to have like a do date so if you're a real stand-up comedian the minute that special goes out is the minute you have zero and it's scary but it's it's also been a blast like and my parents came to the show and saw that story like they I go to the comedy seller and I was doing all these jokes about my mom and dad and then my parents came to a show and the staff there who I'm friends with they're like have they heard this yet and I'm like yeah no but the stories are all true.
they're all they they we we argue about these stories to this day yeah they lived it I'm not telling any
lies I'm not speaking out of out of turn so and then my mom is in the crowd just screaming laughing
because she's like I can't believe you're talking about this still like you know to her the story
was five years ago um so it it takes a long time it takes a lot of work but it's also like
slow like stand up you know I have jokes that I've been I have a story right now that I've been
working on for six years and I'm like still like what the fuck it just alludes me you know
it's and it's uh I don't know if you want my advice you should probably let that one go I mean
okay let's I like Joe I like Joe's perspective just give up yeah I know you're right
let's get into uh let's get into this week's episode so we go to home town I feel like I was I
feel like I was here with you last hometowns why why do I have this
I don't remember
I don't remember
But I know it was one of our
Our more listened to episodes
Well I
Well thank you
I'm happy that's the case
I will say
It's my favorite episode
Every season
I don't know how you
Serena hates it
Yeah I don't like hometowns
Why
A few reasons
I've said
Like on our
Did you go to hometowns
So I sent myself home
After hometowns
So I think there might be
A little bit of like
Personal Traum
there that you know impacts my feelings about the week but I do think for the process it's crucial
like it's absolutely crucial they have to have home tones I would never suggest that they get rid
of the hometowns episode but I just find I'm watching the same thing four times a lot of the time
did you feel that this was the same thing four times this week yeah I did but you love hometown
so what do you think see I love it here's why I love it I love that these people who didn't sign up
to go on TV get to go on TV like I just think
it's like it's for me for my purpose i you guys know i like yelling at the show and like finding
the little things like seeing what the parents look like who comes on what they the questions
they ask the dads who are like such simps for their daughters like they'll do anything like
you could tell like i i don't have a daughter myself i have a young i have a brother like i i just
to see the relationship between dad and daughter like to me is so interesting just how they will
literally do they will melt for their kids
Like, you can see it in all these dads.
I just, like, I totally just enjoy the awkwardness of going to someone's home
and getting to be a fly on the wall because my parents are crazy.
Like, I, so they could do this eight times.
They could go to eight families, and I would still be interested at a minimum just to see what
the parents look like.
And who comes?
Like, so much is said about who comes to these things?
Like, I just think it's so funny.
It's like, because the people who go on.
the show you guys like yeah these are people who were encouraged in one way or another to like be
seen on screen like you guys whether you wanted to or not you you know you were like tv ready
like my parents aren't tv ready i'm not tv ready i'm like you see some of these people like
look at maria maria's dad like put a comb in his hair someone please like he was he was great
he i don't but that is that is so true because
when it's the guys when it's the bachelorette and it's the guys
you never even hear from the dads like the dads have nothing to say
but when it's the girls the dads are just like
this person means everything to me
like I will murder this person
I will literally jump off a cliff to save them
and kill myself like yeah they are such
I don't know I just loved it I
who stood out to you what what's yeah what
Who was the biggest surprise?
Like, who were you like, oh, like, this is an interesting pairing this family with this girl?
Do we want to go family by family?
I took a few notes.
Yeah, let's go family by family.
I know you guys go off the cuff and, you know, no preparation.
Professionals here.
Right, total professionals.
All right, let's go Kelsey A first.
I'm waiting on those 10 cities. I'm waiting on those 10 food cities, Joe.
Your homework is due.
Okay, so I, Kelsey A, my first thought was, what a babe.
She's in that white
Pantsuit thing
With the New Orleans background
It literally looked like a painting
Of New Orleans
And I'm saying this in hopefully
The most respectful way possible
She's got the big hair
She's Julia Roberts
It felt like I was watching
Julia Roberts thing
Yeah you said that
I saw that on an industry
A few weeks ago
You said like she's giving Julia Roberts
And I was like
Oh my God
That's so true
Like she's got the big smile
The big hair
He goes what a babe
You are 37
It doesn't make sense.
I'm 39 now.
It's been in some time.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Right?
Don't you think she's a babe?
I'm also the same age.
But yeah.
You get it.
She looked like she was going to like she went to New Orleans to figure out a murder.
Like it was like this like hot.
Just babe.
I don't know.
There's a better way to put it.
And just with the trees and the willows and the white and he's in white.
They look.
No, it looked like a movie.
Like her on that tandem bike through the trees,
I was like, this is a Julia Roberts rom-com that I'm watching.
The white pants figuring out of murder.
It's all like, I was like in trance,
and I made fun of Kelsey A.
She doesn't seem to open her mouth when she talks.
She's kind of like a ventriloquist.
But I do, like hers was just so ultra-sweet.
And all I could think about is they bring her to the family,
and it's all about the mom who passed away.
But like the fact that she's like the mom's, you know,
like walking
I don't know there's a word for this
but like her tribute almost like they said
that she's so alike the mom
even the sister even said that
and the dad who
the amount of women are gonna
push for him to be on the golden bachelor
I mean like oh my god
I didn't even think about that I don't know if he's old enough
though
he's got the gray hair
he's got a dead wife
if he's over 60
if he's over 60 he would be
amazing yeah
But yeah, that's what I kept thinking of.
He's a soft-spoken, sweet guy.
And to me, it felt like Kelsey A was, like, ready.
I don't know why.
It just felt like she was into him.
It felt like he was ready for her.
The dynamic felt right.
But she became the background with which everything else got judged.
Because then when we go to Rachel, you're like, oh, this is a little different.
Like, this is uncomfortable.
Rachel also bringing up the fact that she's like, the last guy I brought home,
dumped me or I dumped him
it didn't end well my parents are overprotected
I would have liked to have known that a couple
weeks before yeah they were very
the parents were very like it was like a big
thing like yeah this girl cannot
get her heartbroken and there was a few of those
this episode where it was like let me
right before you my family give you
some really crucial information about
my dating history with like I felt like
all with Rachel and with Maria
it was like let me just drop a bomb
on you before we walk in there
I was almost engaged my parents
had to pick up the broken pieces of my heart and we're not over it, let's go.
And then Maria was like, P.S, you're the first guy I've ever brought home.
All right, let's go.
It was bizarre.
I was like, welcome to the luow.
You know, like, what?
It was crazy.
And I felt for Joey and, you know, I like Joey a lot.
I think he's a great guy.
He's been, I think he should coach men going on reality TV.
Like, yeah, like he's, he couldn't be doing any better.
Like, the way he's incredible.
he's talked to the parents
all these hometown
I was like
I've never seen
a lead handle
hometowns better
so fantastic
it seems he means
what he says
it's believable
it's like thoughtful
the way he talks
to the parents
and then when he went
into Rachel's home
and she's like
oh by the way
here's this like
tradition
you're supposed to do
with my mom
that he's never done
and then he like
goes to do it
and I'm like
okay I know
I was like praying for him
oh my God
same when she was like by the way
like I was like
Joe was with my Indian side
of my family recently and there was a few
things that I was going to be like oh you should do this
and I was like you know we're not going to
we're not going to do the greetings because I'm just going to get too much
anxiety like watching you try to execute
those so for Rachel to throw
that on him and then
he goes to do the poll like for respect
my heart is pounding
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Joey though like you were good too Joe
Joey went in so confident like he did it everyone was like
he's amazing I was like wow yeah he really is when they
cheered for him I felt like I was right I felt the same heart pounding like I care about Joey
like I genuinely do and I was like oh this is like and again this whole season like
with the trauma dumping like everything he keeps getting these like things thrown at him
He's like on Legends of the Hidden Temple
And you don't know what the next thing
He's gonna have to jump over
Like what's Olmec gonna throw at him next
And he gets this like
Super serious tradition
And then they cheer for him
I'm like the janitor and Rudy
I'm like in the hallway clapping
You know like
He did it again
Yeah
Who's the wild man now
Like I'm John Favreau
You know like
I really like
Yeah the
Rachel date was fun but like it took on it kind of felt like well and then they were like
you're going to eat the ear because that's a respectful thing of the pig and he was like yeah
let's get in there like I'll dip it in some sauce like he just crushed it but yeah that's not I mean
an ear of pig ears probably he's good well we are adventurous eaters like if you're not an
adventurous eater that's like the last thing someone wants to do also like seeing the pig would like
like make a lot of people queasy I think I mean can you imagine he comes in there he's like
I'm actually vegan
I thought about that
Right and so yeah that date
But then you you know
Hovering over that date like it wasn't about Joey
Rachel's date was about like a family like
Being like you're gonna be okay
But we're protective we've done this before
I mean like
I mean it's crazy to me that like
We were almost engaged and now we're gonna do the same thing on TV
Yeah of course they're gonna be protective
Yeah
And he's like fighting through that
but they were good they were listen they were they were very nice but it felt like their date was about
something else you know right there was like an underlying tone of like what they went through
before yeah and that could be on the horizon for a second time right this was almost heal
healing for them you know like and then daisies was was a middle america bachelor fans like
wedding like that like the christmas street park or whatever was a christmas street park i mean it was
a total harmark movie and you're like
Like, is this how she lives every day?
Like, what is this?
And then, like, the friends come up and the friends made her look very young to me.
Like, it made her ring, you know, almost like not ready for.
And I kind of, from Daisy's hometown, it kind of felt like someone who wasn't here for a husband, but was here to grow up.
Like, I don't, I bought less into Daisy after seeing her hometown.
Like, it felt like, you know, she's just hearing her brother speak for the first time.
Like, we got stuff to get over.
Like, this felt like it was Daisy's, you know, closure on an era of her life as opposed to, like, do I bring this guy in?
I don't know how you guys felt.
I just don't, yeah, I think watching it, I feel, I don't know how much Daisy is into Joey.
I think she, I think she likes him.
I think she would casually date him.
I just don't think she's ready to get engaged to that man.
Yeah, I don't know about you guys.
It kind of felt like she went through something so traumatic.
I'm never going to doubt her experience.
Like it seems like it was a huge deal for her that almost this is like a version of like,
oh, I can do this now too.
Do you know what I mean?
Like she even says to her friends, wow, someone, I didn't think anyone could love me with a cochlear implant.
I'm like, okay, that is to me crazy.
Like that's actually a crazy thing that like I've never.
the bar is very low for men
if all you have to do is say
oh my God that sounds horrible
and she's like oh my God you don't think I'm
you know like the worst ever
and it's like what person
human being on earth
would see someone with a cochlear implant
be like you're unmariable
but she's kind of going through that
which from her perspective I understand
I just think it's miss
you know this is her going through it
the first time
right since you know
yeah like she went through this huge life
altering traumatic experience and it's showing how like early on she is on her journey out
of that because it's like yeah this is the first guy I've seriously dated since losing my
hearing and you're seeing a lot of first with Daisy that it's like hmm like the first can be
the one but is this going to be that case like or she like whoa like I actually have a lot of
potential here to go date a bunch of dudes that maybe I'm more into than Joey and like this thing
isn't going to stop me like she's now
seeing like her future ahead of her like
widen I think throughout this process
I thought the same exact thing especially
when she's having that conversation with her friends
I'm like it did have an element of her being
like wait dudes will fuck me
she's she's like finally seeing her
worth and it's a lot
and she's like okay
this is walking and
marriage is running so
that this date with her
and she's got the whole family the grandpa
parents. I mean, the grandma who looked like who we thought the golden bachelorette would look
like, you know, like, but it's like, no, they're actually younger than the grandma. You know,
like the dad, her dad, we, is not what I imagined a Christmas tree farmer to look like. He looked
more like tech billionaire. Yeah, I was going to say tech Washington, like Seattle. That's what I got.
That's what I was getting from this guy. You hear Christmas tree farm and then you see Daisy.
And it's like, hallmark movie setting, hallmark movie character.
It all fits together.
And then you see the dad and you're like, but that one doesn't fit.
Yeah.
Right.
It almost, you're like, oh, I guess this is a multi-billion dollar business.
I guess growing trees isn't just like, oh, maybe back in like the 1900s, come by my tree over at the farm.
And now this guy's, you know, the mogul who's like, yeah, we got to sell 30 million trees if we're going to make even the season.
You know, like it did have, you're like, oh, I guess this is a real big.
business because he just looked like a business man you know yeah if you if you have a tree in
america it's coming from daisy's farm that's right right let's go uh real quick let's go to
maria's hometown what do you think so maria came to my show in toronto unlike serena's sister
oh did she uh yeah she she came to my show and um she was very nice she posted like i got my ticket
and i invited her back after the show and you know maria i think is like
I think she's a great reality TV show character.
And I told her this to her face, and I believe it,
I think she's got cool girl in the cafeteria energy.
And I think that that's the reason women in the house loved her.
And that's also the reason some of them did not like her.
And I said to her, I was like,
you just seem like you're going to have a podcast
where you give dating and relationship advice,
but you're just repeating things everyone said it heard before.
You know, it's going to be like, you know, Alex Cooper, too.
She has that energy.
So I enjoyed, she was so nice, but she's like, you know, she's someone I would keep until hometowns.
Like, I would have fun with and on the date.
But them doing the shot on the boat was telling to me.
That's why she's here and that's why I don't think it was like ready for marriage.
Like, you're like, this is a huge moment in your life.
You're going back to your house tonight.
We're going to do a shot.
I don't know.
It's fun.
Don't get me wrong.
But like, and then she's like, and surprise, I've never brought anyone home to my parents.
Like, yeah.
That was, that was what was telling for me.
After I saw the Niagara Falls scene, I was just like, it's, it's not her.
What do you think about, what do you think about her dad?
I thought he was great.
Yeah.
He's awesome.
He was, and I, you know, this is why I love The Bachelor.
They're playing the music.
They got the Italian godfather music.
And he's being.
and he's Greek.
I think he's half and half.
They're half, you know, half Greek, half Italian.
And, you know, when Maria came back, like, to say hello, she was like, you know, Marone.
Like, she says that a lot.
Like, it's like her catchphrase or something.
And then you could just tell she was going to be from a family like that where everyone's, like, ball busting.
They're going to like, like, even the dad conversation happened at the table with the kids there.
Like, he was like, you got to be good to my daughter.
Like, that's usually, like, you know, the, you know, you know,
what's her name's dad took him aside behind the bush to be like do you love her and then like
Maria's dad is like tell me you know like you better not ruin this girl she's my favorite and in front
of her his other two kids like it was just so funny it was like you know it was very much similar
to like how my family would do it and I think a lot of people are going to connect with like
the way her dad was and yeah what did you guys think no I completely agree yeah I agree too we
we liked it for sure we we thought the family was great we thought we thought after the way joey
was acting during the day portion though there was a good chance that she was going to be going
home well here's another thing when she has a friend there i i just think when you have a friend
at the family event you're looking for i don't it just rings young to me it rings not ready
like you know be here with your family like i'm here with your family like what's this
friend doing here?
Yeah, but what if
the friends, what if the friends like
like family?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's different for girls.
I think it's different for girls.
I think it makes more sense for, I think
if a guy brought a friend
to the family sit down, unless it was like
this is my child, a best friend.
Like, he's like my brother. I'd be like,
do you need your bro here? But with girls, like
women just have such like close
female relationships. I think it makes sense.
Well, they could have done that during the day.
I don't know.
That's true.
I like it when they do the day time for the friends,
the night time for the family breakup.
Like with Daisy.
That makes sense to me.
Right.
And people are going to defend Maria to the death
is kind of what I've realized.
Oh, yeah.
She has a very passionate fan base because I've said this on my podcast.
I was like, she's Kate.
Caitlin Bristol.
No.
She's How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.
Oh.
Kate Hudson.
She's Kate Hudson and how to lose.
a guy in 10 days she's acting so herself but can't drive the guy away it's she's a
female Kate Hudson and how to lose a guy in 10 days is a female version of the Avengers
it's a superhero because that woman goes out and is letting her freak flag fly and it doesn't
push a guy away because he's in a bet but at the same time like she gets to be totally herself
and he's still trying to figure it out and that's kind of what Maria does like she's totally
totally like it feels like she's you know tripping and falling in front of us but in a
likable lovable way so you know even when they're watching her home videos like and the parents
watching through the window which was bizarre um and she like throw you're like oh that what's that
she like throw something at the camera when she's a kid or something right yeah right and you're
watching that and you're going oh this is like a real life like yeah she's relatable she's relatable
and she's also going through
oh my, like she's growing up
before us, like if you're, if you're, if you're
and I think Joey, that's why he's
out on her. Like, because it's
like, he's like, I'm looking for someone
who's more ready than this.
But it's funny because she's 29. I think she's older
than Joey. She's older than him. Right.
But I, listen,
age is a number at that point because I
was watching that being like, it felt
like a big win for her to bring a guy
home, not Joey home.
You know, and I think that's where Joey
was because then you know
you go to the Rose ceremony and it's like
she's got to pull them aside again
what did you think of that?
Yeah that was that honestly like
I get why the other girls
would be like okay this is annoying
and enough but like it's her
one last shot she wants to leave
feeling like she gave it her all
so yeah part of me was like you know
no regrets she's gonna like leave with regrets
if she doesn't do it but if I'm Rachel
Kelsey or Daisy I'm like you've
got to be kidding me right now
Right. Well, this is the problem with Maria, you know, the, and this is what people have issue with is like, again, that's cool girl in high school energy. Like, we're always in her movie. You know, like, she didn't think of the other women at all. I mean, Rachel was mad. My first thought is we are going to have an amazing women tell all because there's going to be, that has to be talked about. And she's like, I love you, but I'll tell you later. And it's like,
No, no, no, no, but this is my movie, too.
If I'm Rachel, I'm like, what the fuck?
You know, like, and, and I mean, at that point, I was like, where's Jesse Palmer?
Like, what has, Jesse Palmer has been?
I feel like, we've barely seen him.
He came out for the roast, him when you were like, oh, my God, Jesse, where have you been?
Right.
Where's Jesse Palmer?
Like, she takes him behind a helicopter.
I'd be like, is Jesse here?
If it's not a tennis lesson, Jesse ain't showing up, you know?
Yeah, we need more, more Jesse.
All right, we're going to play a game before we do.
Two predictions.
Who's going to end up with Joey and who's going to be the next bachelorette?
Okay, I don't look up spoilers.
I don't look up anything.
I think Maria has to be the next bachelorette, whether she's ready or not,
just based on the following that she's kind of gotten
and how much people really care about her.
I don't know how you guys feel.
no i think i think yeah i think she's got to be a contender for sure her story was such a big one
the whole season and she's a character she pops off the screen she i mean she came to my show
wearing a long sleeve crop top in the middle of february this is a personality you know
like that tells you everything um her dad like we want to see the dad again i think she might
hold out she might pull a tyler cameron it might be worth more to her to not
go on the show
than to go on it
I don't know
if it works the same
as it did
even that short of time ago
so I think
I think she
to me that's the choice
if the breakup
didn't go the way it did
I wouldn't have been
surprised to see her
do like
a roundabout
and come back
you know
like pull like
an air and be
and like show up
during fantasy suites
and be like
let's give it
one more try
but I feel like
the breakup was very final
yeah
we'll see it one
I mean she also didn't cry
She didn't really do, like, the stump speech that a lot of people do when they're in that limo.
Like, so I don't know.
I, even when she left, I was like, I don't know if she wants this all, you know, I don't, or this guy.
I think she just put, like, her tough face on.
I was like, okay, I lost tough it out.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, that kind of plays to.
Who do you think, Hill on?
up with
I think
the babe
Kelsey A
Kelsey A
I don't know how
I
I was surprised
he kept
like
I kind of
you know
I don't know
if you keep Kelsey A
around if you're not
taking her seriously
at this point
with all the mom stuff
and I agree
yeah
you know like I
That's a good point
right
like I'm trying to think
of like
who you know
I guess that's maybe
why I'm single at 39
I'm like, who would be let down the least?
You're like, that's who I'm going to dump now.
Like, who would be the worst breakup is my thought?
Yeah.
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I just don't, I'm literally sitting here just like wondering how, like I'm going to trust Joey with my life at this point.
Like I just wonder how he's going to handle fantasy suites.
It's like, I'm more curious than anything else, aren't you?
He's going to handle it like a gem because.
Right.
Perfectly, probably.
This is how I'm going to start, you know, going to my own version of a fantasy suite.
I'm going to do whatever Joey tells me to do.
Well, we did ask him.
We had him on the podcast last week and we did ask if he set any, like, rules or boundaries.
Like we've seen Batchezer doing the past, we're like, I'm not going to do this or I am going to do this.
And he was like, no, I did not do that.
Which I think is good.
he saw what happened to Zach when he did that i mean like that was the worst that's the worst move of all
time i am not looking with any of these oh and he's such a nice say that right and zach's such a nice
guy like i i i met him and i was like this guy isn't and it's like such a horrific thing to do to
someone else to make them the person that like what he ended up the way it played out for zach
was like so the opposite of what he meant for to happen yeah oh my god no like we love zach like
We've met him a few times, and he's fantastic.
He just, like, set himself up for failure that week.
And Clayton told everybody loved him.
He was so confident to him.
I love you.
And now you see Clayton on, like, TikTok, and you're like, yeah, this makes sense that he would be a big dumb animal.
You know, like, I, it is just, it's so funny when you start to meet, you know, all you guys.
And, like, I don't, you know, you guys know this, like, from dealing with Bachelor Nation, so to speak.
have such like, they come up to you
so aggressively. If they don't watch the show, I
hate The Bachelor, you know, like,
and when they hear that I, like, make jokes about
it, they, and then I get sent people's jokes
and they're, like, horrific and mean.
And I'm like, no, no, no, there's no, like, I hope
I never make someone feel bad about them.
That's not the goal. It's just, like, to laugh at stupid
shit in the show, and to break it down
like I do sports, like I would
sports, but then you meet someone, you're like,
the Zach Schallcross season, I'm like,
ah, buddy, you thought this was going to go a
whole different direction.
Like this is not in your body
to be like a mean guy.
Like, and then it looked kind of mean.
You know, it's so interesting.
All right.
We're going to play a game.
Your Bachelor Nation picks,
it's called.
And it's who from Bachelor Nation would.
So there's like 10 of these kind of rapid fire.
Okay.
And I'm just going to ask them.
But yeah.
Okay.
I don't know why I'm sending it up like this.
Okay.
Swap Life's width for a day.
Tyler Cameron, there's no question ever.
I just want to know what it's like to have abs like that.
Have as a surprise guest on your tour.
Surprise guest on my tour.
I guess it would be Maria at this point,
just because when she posted that she was coming,
like literally people bought tickets.
Like I was like, I can't believe that she was,
on two episodes and they're buying tickets.
I was like, who is this, Joe?
You know, like I...
Have dinner with their family.
I want to have dinner with...
Is it filmed?
Yes.
Katie, with her mom and her aunt.
Katie Thurston?
Katie Thurston, the mom and the aunt.
Wow, that's a throwback.
Right. Remember how uncomfortable that was?
I would want to see how that would go.
I just want to see if they've, you know, changed it all.
I knew you were going to be good at this.
Okay, go on a pub crawl with.
You, I want to go on a pub crawl with you through Chicago.
All right.
I love that.
Joe did say before we started this podcast,
I'm going to be offended if Jared doesn't say my name.
And you could say me multiple times too.
No, I want Joe on the pub crawl.
I want to go around, you know, old town and see a lot.
a day in the life.
Even though I live here, I probably live two blocks from you.
Yeah, I'm looking at you out my window.
Start a podcast with.
I would want to start a podcast
with Nick Vial because I'm positive he would get the most money out of it.
He would find a way to trick someone into giving us their life savings to do it.
So I trust his keen ability to make money no matter what.
That's fair.
Go to Coachella with.
Nobody.
I would never go to Coachella.
Any festival where I'm forced to stand.
Do we have a sitting area?
I guess you know who I would go with Hannah G and her husband?
What's his name?
Dylan.
Dylan and Hannah G.
Because I know that they would have like a private VIP section.
where only rich people could go
and the peasants wouldn't be allowed in
and I'd have like a good situation
whatever if you're going to go that's the only option
like right that's the only
Joe and I are both the same age
no there's no I'm only going with Dylan
on his dad's private jet
yeah let let dress you
um
whoever's dressing Joey this season
that guy got
he's dressing
much better what's going on right he's dressing really well it's the same stylist as it always is
he's just he dresses really well i don't know if they like i'm assuming they always cater to the
lead style and what they want to wear just like within certain parameters but like i
doesn't zach and clayton like see this season and go maybe i need less to give less
opinions on my clothing like it's joey's go i feel like joey was like uh literally put
me in anything. I don't care. This is
kind of what I'm comfortable wearing. Like, do
whatever. Or maybe he was very
opinionated. I don't know.
I would like to know. Or maybe the
stylist had an intervention. Someone told him, like, get your
shit together. He's also, he's also
good looking. Like that plays
a big part. He also, I told him
this, he has a tennis player's build
which I think is the
the king of
builds for men. Like it's strong
for clothing. For clothing.
It's strong, but not intimidating.
lean but not skinny yeah um i've said this so many times and it sounds like i'm like trying to
seduce joey at this point but i i do believe that he is the most dressable body yeah
there you go the most dressable body award goes to use that as a clip i'm sitting here i'm like
i'm like the build of a of a Kleenex box and i'm just jealous i just want to dress him okay
make the bachelor
who would I want to be the bachelor
yeah
I think
I don't know
they could be in a relay
they could be married or in a relationship
too
um
like
I don't know if I want someone messy or not messy
do you know what I mean like I'm not sure
what I even want anymore because
Joey was so
I want someone normal
Like if I'm to be honest
Like after watching Gary
And how much I love that season
I want like someone older
I think I want me
I want me to be The Bachelor
I want to see what happens
When we stop
You know
We have an older guy
Who
Ask every woman
What Chinese food order they would get
as a first question
and also to see my mom
on The Bachelor would be hilarious
Where do you order Chinese food from?
New York City
overrated Chinese food
as far as takeout is concerned
So I don't really have a good place
There's a place that's on
In the East Side
That's really good
Fuck I'm
We order from a dim sum Chelsea
It's actually
It's actually really good
Yeah yeah definitely recommend
If they deliver to you
Do they deliver at three in the morning
After I've had 17 martinis?
No,
I actually think they close at 10.
That's a bad thing.
But, okay, I'm going to go check it out because I'm on the same.
I'm close to there.
So maybe I need a place.
New York, Boston, I'm from Boston.
Boston has the best Chinese food, like, takeout style.
Really?
And New York is, yeah, New York is just lets me down again and again.
But I, not, you know, I don't want to besmirch the city.
Boston's a good food city.
Good food city, but it.
But not in everything.
No, no, no, no.
Boston and Chicago are very similar to me.
It's like they can do a bar food well.
It's Barcelona.
It's no Barcelona.
It's no Barcelona.
No, Boston, like, to me, L.A. has great food.
L.A.'s got great food.
Great restaurants.
Really does.
And it's in Philly.
I have to give a shout out to Philadelphia has one of the best food scenes in the country.
And people don't think of Philly because they hear cheese steak and some assholes.
yells at them but like they have I think some of the best and this also is economics when I talk
about food cities like New Orleans has good food too like because there's like if you're a young
creative chef and you want to open a restaurant you need money to do that so New York is so
restrictive like Toronto just by nature of it being an island Toronto's wide I think that's why
the food is probably good you know that helps it yeah yeah in Chicago
was a hard place to open up a restaurant too because it's fucking they're ridiculous of what they're charging for real estate especially in the west loop you can't even attempt to do it
listen man i i and i like west loop like that to me is like the west village area but i'm in the west village and you know west village is now like a simon mall
like places are moving here after they got big somewhere else like yeah industry pizza just opened up and it's like they don't open up unless there's like you know an investor that looks like daisy's dad
help and bankroll it.
Also, that pizza is awesome.
So good.
I mean, I don't care that it's the newer one.
It is so good.
We've been to both.
It's just as good.
It's the same.
Yeah.
That pizza, like, it is like, and you could tell everyone working there wants to be in
culinary, like, there's a vibe there.
Very jazz.
They care.
They care for sure.
All right.
Last one.
And then, then we're done.
Who would you want to make The Bachelorette, which, if anyone.
from Bachelor Nation. So I guess you can't really say Maria because you already sat here.
I'm cheering for Susan from the Golden. I guess I'm like thinking Golden. I really want them
to change the Bachelorette. I really want them to have a woman who is, and I've said this,
I don't know if I've said this before, but I just think the Bachelorette is not as fun of a show
because of the makeup isn't serving
like who it needs to serve
I think if they had like a 35 year old lawyer
who's never been married
who's been crushing it
and then the men you cast are like
35 and above
like I don't know
why they haven't done that yet
I don't know why they did they had Claire Crawley
who was I think 35
but they didn't cast that
in a way that was adult
Like, I, to me, in my opinion, that's fair.
But I, I don't know.
I just want to see like, but maybe the men would be too afraid again in the same vein as like, how do you find these guys with no history to come on?
Yeah, I think it'd be hard to cast that.
But I don't know.
But wouldn't that be a fun show to watch?
Like, wouldn't you cheer?
Like, I don't know.
With the success of the Golden Bachelor, I want, I want the regular basketball.
you know like I want that see I don't I yes but like I have some of my
you just want the show to grow up with you so you can always relate to it you want
them to always be your age I'm getting too old I'm too old for this shit I'm sorry I can't
watch 25 year olds that right Joe God me though will say they'll be like I want the
Bachelor of the Bachelorette to be hotter than me they're like I don't want
someone that's like looks like me or is relatable to me they're like I want it to
be like wow like she's aspirational i said i wanted to be the bachelor no i listen it could be a hot
35 year old woman like she can be no totally totally i'm just like adding on to what you're saying
like no you're right i agree 35 career successful i think looks play actually like a huge role into it though
yeah i'm with you i yeah someone we you know it has to be someone and women follow other women
for their style i've never followed a man on instagram for his style so i i i agree with you
that there has to be some aspirational.
Like, I just love how she dresses.
I love how she operates.
Like, you know, that's why Maria.
She's beautiful.
She's, like, quick on your feet.
Like, they have to be an aspirational figure.
I agree.
If they're too relatable, I think it is not as, like,
there's not as much, like, glitz and glam to it.
It doesn't feel as much like a fantasy.
Listen, I, you go on dates with women at a certain age and you go,
and you're like, I, you know, how do you tell your own story?
You know, like, there's two ways to tell it.
the sad way and then there's the fun way you know like everyone's got two versions and i think
that's my i think that's why golden was so great because everyone was looking at gary and these
women being like yes that's how i want to be when i'm 60 or 70 years old right absolutely and
they were pumped to just be out of the house this was their thelma and louise this is their this is
their 80 for brady we are out we're doing it we're vivacious we're again like daisy's grandma's who
we thought we were getting and we thought we were going to be sad and it ended up being
dad hot you know banker type you know so well we are going to see the gold woman on next
week's episode or one of the upcoming episodes as we saw in the teaser so yeah yeah we will
stay too and in answer to the question of who do you want to make the bacheloret is susan okay
well that does it for the episode jared thank you so much for coming on we really appreciate it
a pleasure it's always so good to see you guys let's go out let's go i always forget you guys
are in New York. Come to a show. Come to the cellar.
We're going to do something. Yeah, let us know
next time you're there. We will come. We're here.
We're here now for at least a couple
weeks, so. Yeah. Love it. Awesome.
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