Bachelor Happy Hour - Is Chivalry Dead? | Golden Hour

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

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Susan and I do a lot of laughing. But today, we're going to laugh and cry, and we're going to answer more of your fan. I know. I know. It's been a day. But we are going to answer more of your fan questions today, which we always love doing. And we're so glad that you submit them. Keep them coming.

We love reading them. All you have to do is go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and submit away. Give us your thoughts, your comments, your questions, all of it. And the updates on what we've talked about. If we've read your question out loud, let us know what you thought of our advice. And also, remember, you can always DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. Okay, before we get into today's episode, Suzanne, let's talk about the women's tell all. Are you ready to talk about grants?

Oh, baby. Well, first of all, all I could think about was ours. How much fun that day was. I was thinking at the clothes going, yep, they got them pretty trust. And way, way, way less drama. What? Ours was way. Oh, ours.

I'm going to say that. Wait, can we just talk about, we got it. There's so much to talk about here. I know. Where do we start? Well, I want to talk about Carolina's outfit to start with. I mean, if you didn't have drama, if you didn't want to call attention to yourself, which she apparently did, did you catch that outfit.

I think it said spread no evil on the back. I'm not sure. I can't believe they were allowed to wear writing. I mean, that was a no-no. It looked good on her. I'll tell you that. I mean, she's got gorgeous hair. She's a beautiful face.

I mean, perfect little size zero. I know, but didn't you think it's... We hate you. No, we don't. I just thought, though, that, you know, it's... My whole thing on this episode

is much the way I feel about the entire season. I love the people. I love Grant. I love the women. I love the producers. I love everything about this show. But I just... There's a butt coming.

There's a butt. Here it comes. I feel like this entire season, it's like, you know, playing a dart game. just like just throw in a dart and see oh let's talk about that this week or I just can I've had okay let me ask let me ask you a question do you feel this way because we've done this and we kind of understand how it works do you think that has anything to do with it I mean maybe it has something

to do it but my thing is I keep looking going I told you last week I was like where did it come from from my hometown girl like she wasn't in it to begin with and and I just feel like I don't know I feel like some of it is just, I think there's a whole lot more, you know, to the story and to what happened than what we saw. And you got to remember, it was a shorter season. So I kind of felt like ours, you know, things condensed a little bit. What did you think about the whole thing about Carolina taking responsibility? I mean, she doesn't understand what that means, just like Gina said, or not Dana as Sarah. No, Dina. It was Dina. Dina and Serafina, and Serafina, I love to watch her face.

Yes. Because she doesn't have a good poker face at all. I feel that. I mean, I just, I think you're right. Carolina either doesn't understand or doesn't want to understand. I did agree with her point that, you know, she wish Grant could be out there. And also that she felt attacked all the time. I get that.

But was her attitude like Dina pointed out to start with? where she was mopey and pouty and, you know, the rest of the people feel that energy. Negative energy goes really far and I tried to run from it. I don't want to be near it. That's where nation. Susan has taught me that. Like put a smile on your face and look for the best because if you're not,

you're not working on. Okay, but there's so much like little things. I feel like I'm doing the same thing the show is. I'm darting from thing to think. I do because there's so much to cover in the couple minutes. Okay, what about Dina saying to Carolina, I bought you another week? I mean, I love Dina. That was big.

That was huge. I know. I love that. Hello. Own that shit. Well, and then did she, though, by her? I mean, maybe. Maybe that's how it rolls.

But, boy, Carolyn was her biggest supporter for a while until she was affected by it, the negativity once again, and then she fired out. But they did the hug and makeup thing. Oh, was that real? Wait a second. Do you remember me saying last week or whenever it was last week the week before? Clearly, they're not good friends. I'm going to talk to bring that.

So I think that was fake. I think that was fake when they hugged it out. No, I don't because I could see me doing something like that. And then you don't make sense to me. So then why were they so. So when they brought it back up, she was still not taking blame for anything and she got. Pissed all over again? Yeah.

She was like, hello. Okay. What did you think? of, because I, you know, we can agree to disagree. I don't think that was a real hugged, hug it out episode. But the social media thing, that's the, now I may be wrong, and I'm sure, you know, people write and correct me, the social media aspect of it, where they showed the text, I was like, whoa. And she said, I'll show you the text that, yeah, hauled her out on that.

But Dina. That lawyer is not taking shit. But really, but Dina's saying that she put. that up to advertise the show. It's like, come on, Dana, you're a lawyer. Is anybody buying that? I don't think so. She put it up just to say, screw you to Carolina, which, you know, okay, whatever. Don't you feel like this season, it was like a little more digging for drama? Something felt off to me. Yes. So you do agree with me. Yes. It almost felt, I don't know if maybe the scene wasn't long enough or showed enough of one thing. It was more.

jumping all over the place. That's how I feel. Jumping all over the place. And I just keep saying that thing. I think that Alex was so cute bringing in the llama and, you know, the no drama. I mean, that was so sweet. Yes, that was a great surprise. And I felt badly for her.

She said it was hard to watch back because that brought back to me how hard it was to watch back. You know, we've talked about this stuff with Teresa with me. It was hard to watch it back because people didn't see what really happened between, you know, on our show. So it's hard for me to watch back that stupid ice cream game. Not paying attention when I answered. Pay attention, Susan. Pay attention.

And I felt badly for Alice when she said there was no clear reason she went home. Although, I got to say, I didn't see him. I mean, they were the ones that went to the Beverly Center, remember? Yes, they danced. Yeah, but I never saw much of a connection after that, did you? Not afterwards. because he kept, he kept her around for a little bit because he had to try everybody. Right. I know, but she was so sad. It just, you know, I feel sorry. Here's the thing. As a mom and you're a mom and, you know, we both have daughters. I just keep watching that saying, how would I feel? You know, my daughter with the broken heart, it's like you. And I talk about we're so glad we went home earlier. I mean, we both stayed pretty long time. But we weren't. We didn't do hometowns. We didn't do hometowns. I mean, I just kept thinking, no.

No, but even Alex, she really thought they had a connection. You know, you just feel sorry for them. Well, because he's saying, you know, I see potential in us. And you want to believe the person talking to you. That's right. What do you think about Serafina? I love her. I just can't not look at her face.

I mean, she tells me everything without speaking. Yeah. Well, I think with her, to the point you were just making. I never saw that connection. Oh, Grant, I disagree. she said she felt validated he validated her when you know they were talking so no at the women's hall so you know he said he wanted to meet her family she said i literally jumped off a bridge for him um you know her mother wants to see her happy all those things she felt like he had i don't

say committed permanently but again doesn't every woman that he keeps around wouldn't you look at Leslie, remember Leslie? She thought she wanted him. And that's the nature of the show. But that's down to the end. I'm just saying when you, it's dangerous territory, I think, especially when you're young and you're telling women that are, you know, at this age that you love them or you're falling in love with them. And I think that's where Sarah Fian. And you want to believe it because they're falling for him. But that's the chance you take on it. Yes. And that's part of being on show, but when he says, and he did, you know, he's validating her feelings, then you don't think, hey, I'm a crazy person, you know, you think this is really going somewhere.

How about the bloopers? Oh, the bluepers, Jesus. I loved it. What, but the bluepers were what? Really was that? No, literally, literally, literally. Every single one of them said it. Literally. Literally. And let me just say, let me just say, literally, literally, Susan, I can literally. I can literally. not wait for the finale. Literally, I cannot wait. Well, I'm waiting for the hometowns. That I get excited, not the hometowns, the overnights. I get excited about that love, that real, like he wants to hear them tell him. Yeah. That's the thing about the show. They hold back. I mean, he didn't hold back, but he didn't say, I was kidding me. He was telling them all leading them all. You think what, who's holding back?

The women, when they, they want, he wants to hear the woman. say, I'm in love with you. I'm falling in love with you. They've all said that, the ones that are at hometowns. Well, yes, that's at that point. Well, what's your point? So three women are going to be in love and two are going to go home crying. You know what? Let's find some single guys for him. You know, they said they're doing paradise. Maybe they'll bring those three to paradise. Wait, did you hear Jesse? I heard we care. I know. But let's get back. Why don't we know this scoot? Because no one cares about us, Susan. Because they're afraid we don't. talk about it. That's why. No, they're afraid will show up uninvited. That's what they're afraid of.

Okay. Dean, I just want to say a quick thing about her. I think she is lovely, clearly, smart girl, a lawyer. I think it took a lot. Again, I think of people, women, my daughter, people I know. You and I say what we think. I don't know anybody as, as, I don't want to use the word closed off, but she shields herself. She calls herself an ice queen. And she said she let her walls down a little bit. But you know what? If, Dina, if you're listening, I think that you're smart.

I think you're capable. And I think, as I've always said, if you want to have a chance at love, you have to open your heart. You have to risk it. And good for her. I think she did. I just hope she can's after this little burn. She said she was ready and she does want to get engaged and have a family. and she's going to be more aware of her because people feel that.

It's nothing you're saying or doing people feel that. I know if I'm with somebody that's closed off, I feel that vibe, don't you? Yes, but that's the point. I think that I'm happy for, Tina, that she opened up a little bit, as she said, started to let herself melt a little bit. I think that was a really growing experience for being on that show, and I have high hopes for her. Just like you and I shared what we learned about ourselves and the friendships that we made, these young ladies, we had way more experience than them. These young ladies are realizing things about themselves, I hope, and that they'll take

with them for the rest of their life. Yes. And you know what? It is reality TV, but again, as a mom, as someone who has a daughter, I think these young ladies will grow from this. And, you know, that's good. We got to get back to Carolina for one more second. Because, well, I mean, we could spend an hour.

But let me just say, Grant told her that they had a genuine, I went back and rewound it so I could hear it, that he had a genuine connection with her. And he said he would always put her first. So I want you to hear, Serafina and Carolina both felt blindsided. And I think with good reason. Grant, I love you. You're handsome devil. You're from Houston where I spent 20-something years.

But I got to say, I think you did lead both of these ladies on a little bit because you said to Carolina, I will always put you first. If a man said that to me, I think I'm going to get a ring, you know? What was it that he admit to sitting with Jesse that he learned from too? Oh, I've got that too. The comment about the dance when he was thinking about the, yes, he realized he didn't say it. He said, he didn't mean to come off like that. I wrote it down. He said that...

Poor Rose. Poor Rose. He said he led with love and compassion. That's what he said. And he said that he could have been more careful with his words. Susan, how many times have I said words matter? When you tell someone you're falling in love with them or you'll always put them first, those words matter. So, you know, I do...

Because you want to believe them. I'm sorry. If I'm telling you someone saying them, you want to believe that they're telling them. I do believe that they tell them. them until they give me a reason not to. That's my point. So, you know, I think a lot of people don't like Carolina. And I think she's an attention grabber for sure. I think, I like her. I like her to. I want her hair. He's a spitfire. I want her hair. These damn girls with their gorgeous hair. But anyway, I thought that, I thought about Rose. How do you think she felt talking yesterday?

I mean, she's so sweet and nice. I think she's just one of those sweet. I think she's that girl you can plant anywhere and she'll blossom. That's what I think of her. I wish them all the best. Wait, that was a pun. That was a pun. I forgot her name was Rose, but, you know, plant a rose. And bloom. And bloom. Really, bloom, and bloom anywhere. So, you know, I think that, but we've got to get to, so I think the girls handle as best they could. I think Carolina was, Carolina was, carolina was beaten up a bit, but we don't know, we weren't there. We don't know what the edits were. I know I've been beaten up and I didn't deserve it. So I'm going to give her a little bit of grace, right? Did you notice how many

they brought up on the stage with Jesse to talk? Yeah. That was different. Yes. Well, I think they, you know, and then mirror mirror mirror on the wall. Oh, that was cute. The Disney deal. I mean, they did a few cute different things. All right, well, I cannot wait for next week. I really cannot. It's going to be good. It's going to be good. Let's see where it goes. I'm Jemail Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives.

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you get your podcasts okay kathy i want to get us started with the question of the day you know we love i love it okay let's do it let's do it now here we go okay do you notice any distinct differences between young men today and men your age when you were young in terms of how they are romantically. You know, do you think men nowadays are better, worse, different than the dating pool was when we were in our 20s? Do young men today know what romance is? Are you asking me or telling me? I don't think they're romantic, but I don't think. date young men, so that's a hard one. I got to say when, you know, when I was young,

it was black and white television. So, you know, we're going back some. But I think when, when I was dating when I was younger, you dated two men and you married the second one. But in high school, I'm talking about high school, you know, a date. Romantically, I mean, I had a guy in high school write me a poem and yeah, he did. And in high school, high school it was so sweet you everybody thought he was a weirdo and now you wish you know that's really no one thought he was a weirdo but i i think guys today aren't do you think there's romantic today i don't say it i don't everything's so nonchalot today you know they don't title anything they hook up if you will they you know i never my whole life i wanted the romance and and i finally in my

60s recently met someone that is so romantic so are the words I mean it could be full of shit but I believe trust me when she tells you this guy put a capital R in the word romance

I don't know I think but you know what I think the difference is Susan I really do it's social media it's social media yeah social media you know it's the quick text it's there's women everywhere there's you don't have to work very hard now

to have a date you know there are a dime a dozen which brings back the whole commitment issue so but when we were kids I would also think that men are aged today would learn enough about women that they would know how to play the game

and be romantic do you know what I mean nobody tries well that but that's what I'm saying it's it's too much work they can go on Facebook dating or you know pick a dating site they can any of them they can go on and have have a date oh this one didn't work out i haven't they don't feel the need to exert themselves to get that woman because

there's always another one at least that's how it feels maybe that's maybe i'm being you know i wouldn't say better or worse i would say different yeah and i and i really do i think social media and dating apps and just technology in general, explain it. Do you know they have like robots now for men, of course, not for women yet, that they don't need a live person. What are you talking about? Robots to come in their house that they could do it to and, you know, they used to be like blowup dolls, but where did you read this? What, what? Oh, girlfriend. Yeah, it's the Times here. Come on. I mean, are you telling me men are hooking up. up with robots the robot that learns how to kiss me i'd never go out of the house again

wait you're telling me you're telling me yes it's coming cath it's coming yes there's a big thing about it i'm just thinking about a man having sex sticking it in a piece of steel it just sounds speaking of no romance i think they make them with flush now i'll know it's probably got oh geez i don't yeah we won't even go there all right let's get into our fan questions what do you think cat go Go, go. This one's from Anonymous. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I love your thoughts.

I've been seeing a guy for the past few weeks, and I can't get over this nagging feeling I have. I'm attracted to him. I like him. And I know those feelings are mutual. But here's the thing. He doesn't do the guy things that I feel like my mom and dad always talked about when I was young. He doesn't open doors for me, fill my glass when it's empty at dinner, the little things. I never really thought I was someone that cared about that stuff like that, but it all came to a head the other night.

I got to the restaurant a few minutes after him, and when I came over to him, he didn't offer me his seat on the bench while we waited for our table. Oh, my God. Is this weird that all these things are starting to make me lose feelings? I don't want to ruin something over silly expectations, but it's starting to give me the ick. Please help me. Well, first of all, when I walked into the restaurant a couple minutes late and there's standing room only and he's sitting and he didn't get up,

meet Susan, I probably would have been. embarrassed him like are you kidding me right now yeah but but you know what you get up does he have no manners sometimes you have to teach people things he might not have been raised where did you get she's pregnant i said if there was a pregnant woman man a man sitting and they're standing room only you i would hope that the man would get up and you know what i hate to say this this kind of relates to our question of the day for me and i hate saying this and i'm sure i'm going to take some flack for it but i don't think children are raised with manners anymore. Anonymous, I feel sorry for you because he's probably a great guy.

He might just have to educate him. You might have to teach him because that's not willful, you know, being cruel. That is he may just not know. He may not have been trained. You give up your seat. I literally sit in your class and you just. I mean, it's a, yeah. Tell us to Google it.

I literally walked into the gym yesterday. It's so funny that we had this question. And there was a guy probably in his mid to late 20s walking in in front of me. And he heard me walking up because he started to turn around and he walked in and just opened the door and went in and let it go. And I just, I thought, you know what? Do I say something? I thought, no, because it's not my job to educate him. but Anonymous you're dating this guy so you know you might say something to him and depending upon

his reaction right to what you say if he takes it well he might be embarrassed and say oh my gosh thanks for telling me if he's if he's rude and you know you might want to you know get the I'm trying to picture her walking in and he's still sitting and she's standing I can't even I I hate to say it I've I've seen it but I will tell you you my children and I know your children my children were brought up with manners and yes ma'am no sir and all that and holding doors and and people take note of that so the fact that she's getting the ick I get it I understand it but I give him the benefit of the doubt for a few minutes don't you feel like a little bit it's a lack of respect not if you haven't been taught

like be in the world for a minute people do nice things for others well i i i don't know again how long have they been dating you know how old are they i just i i'd have i would like to know it's not but but anonymous i can tell you what it isn't you said it's a silly expectation you don't want to run over silly expectations it's not a silly expectation you should absolutely girlfriend have the expectation that your partner your partner your boyfriend, your date, any man that you are with will hold a door for you every time, give up a seat. Even if he was just a buddy, it's called the right thing to do. Yeah.

So, you know, write a letter to his mother, tell her she failed. I have a conversation with him, though, before you end it, yeah. That's what I said. I'd have the conversation and say, hey, you know, is this just an oversight or, you know, what's the deal? Because it bothered me the other night when you didn't get up. And he might look at her and say, I am so sorry. I didn't know. I didn't think of it.

And then they could have a bigger conversation about manners. Or she could present it in a way where did you see the people look that you didn't get up? I was embarrassed for you because you're much better than that. Yeah. You know, make it. Or what's. Dance around it a little. Or you know what?

Yeah. Dance around it. Be kind. Or I just was thinking, Christmas. buy him the Emily Post book of etiquette and tell him to read it I gave that to my children

and made them read him condensed version that's right I'm not going to read the whole book I know it's a very big book oh God bless you honey let us know how it goes okay question

the next question is from anonymous hi ladies I really need your help I went on a third date with this guy that I really like and everything was going great until we got to the bill oh the dreaded bill I oh I had third date Susan we're going to go to task on this one I had secretly given my card to the waitress so I could treat he has never voiced to me that anything like that makes him uncomfortable or offends him so I thought it would be a nice surprise he did not like it he was so cold to me and continues to be now when I asked what was wrong he finally told me he was embarrassed what do I do is this something I should be concerned about

I don't get what the big deal is and I just feel so lost. Oh, God, I'm so sorry because I think that was the sweetest thing to do. I've done it. Although my guys didn't get mad, they thanked me. Yeah, well, you know, there's reasons for that.

I would, I don't think I would do that on a third date. I would have, again, so you know I'm saying I wouldn't have done it. Okay, but she did it. So what do we tell her? You tell her that I would apologize and say I want it.

I was trying to do something sweet. I never meant to embarrass you. Now I realize I'll never pay again. No, what she should say is now I realize and I'll talk to you about it if I want to treat and say, can I get this one and give you a voice? I'm sorry. I would apologize.

I would never do that. I've done it and the exact same way. And they were like taken back. No, not on a third date. You hardly know the person. If he took me out twice, I wouldn't mind. I would wait till the bill came and said, hey, you took me, you know, you've paid the last two bills.

How about I get this one? And it says absolutely not. I would, I just, I think you blindsided him. Yeah, and I like that he's upset because. However, you know what bothers me? But what is it, a control thing, though? I don't know, but he said he's been cold to me and continues to be now. That is a, that is a, could be a red, teeny we'd see red flag.

Red flag. Red flag is yellow. It's bright yellow. Yeah. Well, you know, could be light pink. He should say thank you, but there's no need for that. I prefer. There's no need to be cold. No, you're being a dickhead.

Are you, why are you saying the word dick so many times today? I don't know. It's just coming out today. I made lemonade out of my lemon, so we're lucky. That's all I'm saying, okay? All right, all right. Anyway, that's what I think. I'm going to swallow the key.

Lock myself and swallow the key. I shouldn't be allowed out. Not today. No, anyway, just anonymous. really would have the conversation with him and apologize and say you didn't mean to offend him quite the contrary. You were trying to do something sweet. But

you know what? If he continues to be an asshole and cold, then you got a bigger problem on your hand than who's paying the pill. Kathy today. Asshole. She said it. I love it. I don't like men who are mean. I don't like mean people. And you know what? If he keeps the cold shoulder, you're the one that's going to get upset and let

him know you are. Listen, dude. I was trying to do something nice and you're going to treat me like this over. it. I apologize. I thought I was doing something sweet. I wanted to make you smile. Yeah. Let's get past this or let's wave the flag that it's over. If he can't get past it, you know what she should do? Bye-bye. Here's your hat. What's your hurry? Adios. Bye-bye. All right. Give me the money for the bill that I just paid. Yeah. You want to be that? You want to be

that asshole? You want to be that guy? Pay me for the deal. We don't hear things like that usually. That's really. something that we don't hear often. Yeah, but good for you for trying to do a treat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're sweet anonymous. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a

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nobody tells you anything listen to shock incarceration on the iHeart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts my name is Ed everyone say hello Ed from a very rural background myself my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin so like it's not like what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club

I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? a new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, another anonymous. Nobody wants to give their names today. Hey, ladies, I have a big dilemma. I need your help.

how do I make my best friend realize that her boyfriend is a major all caps mooch he hasn't paid for anything for her in over a year including gifts for her birthday etc they've been together for a year in three months the math isn't mapping he always eats her food needs her to drive him places is just so exhausting i can tell i don't want to hurt her feelings or make her unhappy be, but there's no way he's good for her. How do I have this conversation? Can I just give a quick answer? Hasn't she noticed? Who asked you, Anonymous? If she's happy, what's it to you? Kathy, I cannot believe those words came out of your mind. If it were me and you saw me doing this for some guy, you'd be beating my ear until I got it. Come on, they're friends. Tell the truth, would you

or would you not now that I've said it that way? Wait a minute. Has, fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. However, I'm going out on a limb. I don't think that Anonymous has not voiced her opinion already. I don't think she's been sitting back quietly, as I would not, for a year and a half. And after they've been together for a year and three months, Anonymous decides to write us because she just popped, popped it and can't control herself any long. I think Anonymous has probably spoken to her friend about this and her friend is continuing the behavior. And that's why I jumped to it and said, what's it to you? If she's happening. And Susan, you know, haven't I not gotten to a point where I say, well, fine, if that's what you

want, Susan, knock yourself out. Absolutely. But you're going to beat that horse until she hears you, though. You would keep saying it until I get it. And then I could make my own decision. No, no, no. Until you say to me, which you've done, not about this, but other things. I hear you. I hear you and I don't care. I want to do A, B, and see, I'm like, okay, great. You need to help me here. Okay. Because Anonymous didn't help me.

Now I need to. I always will help you. He hasn't paid for anything for her, an over-year, including gifts for her birthday. Who's paying for them? Is he making her buy her own gift? No, I think what Anonymous means is. He don't buy her one? She didn't articulate her thoughts clearly.

He just didn't get her one. That would be my day. Okay. Is your girlfriend desperate that she wants a man so bad that she's going to do? I mean, I used to be a big giver. Like, I'll let you walk all over me, give, give, give, but I need something in return. Well, maybe she does. Maybe she doesn't. Maybe she's too young. We, again, we don't know their ages. We don't know, you know, is this her first boyfriend? We don't know. There's a lot. So how does she have this conversation? She doesn't. He says at one time, watch your girlfriend. You say at one time, Anonymous, you say, let's role play here. Susan, you've been dating Jerry.

Tom Dick and Harry. Oh, no, you've been dating Dick. We're going to keep her that name today. You've been dating Dick for a year and three months, and he's never bought you a birthday present. He comes to your house. He fills his face out of your refrigerator. He never takes you for dinner. and when you do offer dinner, you pay for it.

What do you see in this guy? He must be really satisfying. No, I'm asking you. I'm asking you. We're role playing. Yeah. Why, Susan? No. I don't think I could do it, no.

I couldn't do that. So there's some reason. What's wrong with this picture, yeah. Yeah, there's something we're not getting out of this story. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't. But as her best friend, you could, if you haven't already, just say that you can't help but notice and ask her, does she notice? How do you feel about it?

And then whatever the answer is, accept it. Yep. And stay her best friend. You'll pick up the pieces afterwards. Yeah, that's right. But don't let her do anything major. And, and you know what, Anonymous? You're, you're probably right. He's probably not good for her because ultimately, ultimately, that kind of behavior gets really old, really fast. And so. Obviously, not fast enough. she's still doing it. Not past enough, but you know, she'll learn. Here again, the girlfriend, not the friend is talking to us, but what kind of childhood should she have? What are you attracting? Like, all that comes into play. That's what I'm saying. We don't know. And being a friend would bring her light to it. Like, she's saying, but she's not going to change her.

No, she's not. It's not going to change her. But anonymous, you know what, you're lucky, she's lucky to have a great friend in you. You're a good friend. and, you know, just be there. Hopefully she'll come to her senses and you can pick up the pieces. Yeah. And hopefully, I know. What's wrong with men that do that? What do you?

I don't know. You know, sometimes they're really good men once again. I'm going to give them a benefit of the doubt. They don't even know any better. They're spoiled, rotten. You know, they're just stupid. And they've got to be taught. And sometimes it takes losing.

somebody to learn. I agree. I don't, I don't, I mean, at my age or at our age, I don't want to teach a man to open the door. You can't teach old dog's new tricks. I mean, yeah, I have another funny thing, but I'm not going to say it. Yes. There's right. Anonymous, good luck. Let us know. Let us know. Please, you know, we've had several questions where we need more information and we need updates. And we've gotten a few responses. Right. So please, Anonymous, write us. an update.

That's why we always tell you, go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. That's where you will write us an update. Or even have her write it. Really? When she realizes what the hell's going on. All right, we got Icky or Picky. Okay. What a day.

Okay, we're going to do another round of Icky or picky. Kathy, I'm going to have you start with the first one today. He says, my lady. unironically which means that's how he refers milady milady i dated a guy who said malady and i went you're who like what no my name is kathy get it learn it learn it now just i mean if he's boring i think it would no you know what it is it for men they date so many women they call them all malady see you know i think it's i think it's i don't think it's icky i think it's picky but yeah it's It's picky. It's picky. He always talks with his mouthful.

Ew. Ick. Icky beyond. Icky, picky, and ooh. This is an ooh. It's a double o'. No way. Okay. He's a massive sore loser during board games. That's icky to me. It's so icky. I'd be like, you baby. Yeah, grow a pair. Really?

Icky. Okay, he has really long fingernails? First I would be vomiting and then I would say. Wait, first of all, if they're manicured and a very clean? No. It wouldn't be so icky. No, it would for me. A man with really long fingernails?

Like mine long? Like long? Like long? Long, can you spell it? L-O-N-G? My rugged dude that's going to hold my hand, I don't want his nails longer than mine. Icky. You know what?

I swear to God, we just took a tour guide, a tour boat around the Asiatic, I can't even talk. We just went around the world for you to say it was Zickey. Really? He's transitioning. You got any other situation? Well, I'm trying to think he would open mind, you know, be open. It didn't say what guy he was. He, it just says he has.

Well, is he are he? You know what he? We don't know. He's not going to be my he for long if he's got really long fingernails. I don't care if he's transitioning or not. What if they were polished? French manicure. Okay.

He always wears ripped basketball shorts and a t-shirt that never matches. Like when he works out. Wait, let me just say to you. Do you hear Susan? She wants to know exactly like if you're gardening, mowing the yard, it's okay. Susan the fashion queen. Yeah, that's okay. But if you are, you know,

If you're taking her up for dinner, you're toast, you've been kicked. Look at it. She's making a face. You're kicked to the street. I mean, you are done if you show up in that. If he, but the operative word. First of all, not a basketball shorts kind of girl. He always wears basketball shorts.

So that tells me it's an... Let's go shopping. Like you need an excuse. I want to help them. Yeah, that's icky. That's okay. All right. All right.

Where are we? He over explains a. joke every time you don't laugh. It's pathetic. It's pathetic, but it's picky. But you know what? It is picky because I sit through them and I make myself laugh and I want to kill myself sometimes. No, but he's over-explying a joke. Like, you know what? I've known people who do that. And it's like, I got it. I got it. The first time it just wasn't funny. I got it. Please don't repeat it. Really? He posts really sad lyrics, but refuses to talk about his feelings when asked.

Well, to me, that's a cry for help. That's a cry for help. That might be a deal breaker on the relationship. I mean, if he can't talk about his feelings, that doesn't pose about it. Well, most men don't really open up that easily. But if you're going to post sad lyrics, that's cry for help. I think he needs Prozac. All right.

Or a therapist. Or all the above. He refuses to try. new foods. Oh, God. You know, for me, that's an ick. I got to be, I dated a guy. I'll tell you, you know the guy I'm talking about.

I dated him for like 10 months. Yeah. And the whole thing was icky. But he ate the same thing for lunch every day and the same thing for breakfast. It's like OCD. And I would say to him, how about, you know. Try this. Yeah.

A croissant. No, but you know what? And when he refused that to me was, what do I want to say? It spoke more about who he was as a person. Yeah. In other words, it had broader implications than just didn't want to try new foot. He still uses Snapchat. So what?

Who cares? You know, I never even knew what that was. My kids, if I want to see anything, I got to look on Snapchat. What I don't like is it disappears. You post it for a minute. I go back to show somebody, my granddaughter is gone. It's like your stories on Instagram, Susan. They're there for 24 hours and then they're gone.

Learn your social media tricks. Well, my kids know now. If you're going to do that shit, take a copy and send me my own. If it's about my grandchildren, I want the picture. Don't make me look on Snapchat. It's a whole other thing I got to do. Can I just tell you, I don't know anyone to use a Snapchat except your children? I really don't.

There's a hundred million people that use. Oh, I'm sure there are. I just don't know that many people. All the young ones in Bachelor World? They do? Oh, yeah, because I remember taking pose in with the four pictures. I thought they used TikTok. Bachelor Nation, no, because Snapchat, they do, they could share it, but only for a minute,

or you can save it to a story. And I go, oh, you're using Snapchat, something about the camera. You got to ask the young one, but a lot of them do still use it. Wow. All right. All right. He asks you to do everything because you do it better. He's a lazy boy.

cop out yeah that's an excuse i do do it better but i'm not doing it that's right that is icky yeah that's lazy he takes forever to respond to text messages but responds to you ASAP on instagram problem why i know my question exactly why no why's you live on instagram yeah how could you not see a text message. Maybe he's an influencer, miss giving them benefit of the doubt. Maybe he's an influencer. So what? You'd still get a text. He'll respond to you on Instagram, but he won't respond. Because he's probably on Instagram. Maybe he's an influencer. That's your phone. The phone is still in your hand.

Could be an iPad. It could be anything. Maybe he's got his message is silenced. How does it feel? Taking the trip around the world to answer a simple question. You're enjoying it? How's it working for you? Look, don't make me wait for a response for my text message because that's the only way I talk to people. I don't really answer the phone much. No, no. Let me just tell you, Susan, especially if she's dating someone, the guy that the dots are

still blinking is he's texting and she's already writing back. She's already writing back. You don't have to wait long for Susan. Am I right? Am I right? Yes, but if I'm in a situation where I can't respond, here's the bad part. I want to and then I forget. And then I'm accused of just ignoring, like, oh, my God, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.

It was two days ago. I'd never respond to it. Yeah, I do that, too. So do you check your text message? I can't see that. There's so many. There's so many. Yes, I tried to.

Yes. Not Instagram messages. Text. You get a lot of texts? All day, every day. From home? Tell me. Oh, my God.

So I'm on a couple groups from the new show that's coming in April. And you're on a family chat. And then my family and then my girlfriends. How many times did we text the day, Kath? Mm-hmm. I got Nancy. I got my cousin. I got Lottie.

I got girlfriends, guy friends. Can I just tell you? The other day, I must have had 600 because it was my birthday. Unbelievable. When you got to respond. When you text your family, your children, do they respond right away? Yes. Except for Nick.

Nick takes a minute. My kids don't. But you know what? Britney and Chris do, yeah. Right away. Oh, yeah. And if Chris, he'll do it for work. And if you don't respond to Chris right away,

yo, ma. Yo, ma. Yo, ma. Did you even read it? Like Christopher. Yeah, I have, so, I don't know if you have this, but I have emergency phones with two of my kids that live here. So if I call them, even if they're like in a meeting,

it'll ring, their phone is silenced. That's what an emergency contact is. And so they both looked at me and said, don't abuse it. I just did itching sometime. I've never done it. Actually, you know what's, no, wait, let me tell you why this happened unless I sound ridiculous. Yeah, because I'm waiting. I broke my leg a couple of years ago. And they wouldn't answer. I called, neither one answered. I called, I had to call 911 because I could not get up my, it was awful. My leg was turned funny. I couldn't get up off the floor. I had to call 911, which was very traumatic for me because I don't like ambulances and sirens.

And so my kids, after that, they called. Actually, no, that was when I broke my wrist. I take it back, not my leg, my wrist. And I couldn't drive because my hand was turned a very, I had to do it. Was it your right hand? Yes. And so it was bad. But they felt so badly that now they put me on this emergency thing.

So, you know, they'll answer now. Is it time that we have to wear the thing around our neck, life alert? Oh, God. oh no no no no if i go down i want to go down and stay down i've fallen what if that happened and i couldn't get up or something like my cell phone's not near me i'm telling you it's why i tell nancy yeah all the time our dear friend nancy i don't think nancy pays attention to her phone too much because when we call she goes oh i'm sorry and she's so sweet about it she didn't hear or she didn't see it like you know what good for her though she's not married to her

phone she's not married to her phone you know man catholic well this i don't know this was this was a barrel laughs so let's talk about your hair for a second before we go okay so kathy yeah spring is in the air yeah and i think you're thinking of a new luck i just i just feel like my hair i feel like i look like i look at the dutch boy pink can you know my hair's straight and it's brown all i need is bangs to finish off the look well i said a curtain bang would change it up a little bit get some movement in it. You're thinking about changing the color. I just feel like my hair is so dark. This is just slightly darker than my original color. Than my natural color. Yeah. And so I just thought, you know, I don't, I never want to be a blonde. I've never wanted to be a blonde. But I'm just

thinking like a lighter might not make me look so, because I'm basically so pale. I feel like it's such a stark. That's what's striking about dark hair and pale. skin. They say blondes have more fun. I'd like you to try and let me know. Well, what about half blondes? Does that mean I have half as much fun? No, seriously, I would love it. People write in, should I lighten my hair, not helmet blonde, like not platinum blonde, but just like chunks of blonde so I could, I could look like. Like much lighter, much lighter, yeah. With some high, the highlights that people do. What do you think? Should I do it? What do you, Susan, what do you think? what the people think. I really do.

But you're a hairdresser. You know. I know what I think, but it takes what I'm trying to explain to Kathy. It doesn't happen overnight. So you're going to go through phases that you're not going to like. And I know you. Patience is not one of the things that either one of us are good at. And you're going to go, oh my God. I'm like, no, I don't like this. And destroy and bring it right back. But you have to get through. It's a little bit of, I have to move. Wait, does this mean I get to move to Philly? You're going to have to live here. My husband loved blondes. I was the first. I mean, if he were sitting here right now, he would tell me to go blonde. I promise. He would.

Men love blondes. Well, we'll try it. Well, my husband's on here anymore, so we're not doing it for him. We're doing it for you. All right. This was so much fun. I will do it in one condition. What? You don't give up midway. You got to give it three months. Oh, I'm going to be married in three months. Well, for you, you get to touch up every three weeks. So, three, six, nine, 12.

Yeah. Three months? I can't afford it. I can't afford it. All right. Seriously, people, if you have an opinion. We'll talk about it. Stay tuned, but we want to know what you guys think.

So please, if I'm going to do all this work, I want your input before I do it. Because if she starts reading, don't do it, Kath. Don't do it, Cass. She's going to go, no. Wait, also, you may send donations to pay Susan to do all this to bachelornation.com because I can't afford it. All right, all right. Let's go here.

Time to go. I guess that's it for today. What do you think, Kathy? Well, I hope people are still going to fall on Bachelor Happy Hour. So make sure you follow us because we do have all those new episodes coming out every week. And if you're a new listener, please weigh in on my hair and keep listening. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome aboard and submit some questions to us. Everybody, keep them coming because you can go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour or just DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. We're here to listen. We're here to talk about it. And we love hearing from you guys. We're here to disagree and agree. And we want your input. And we want to figure out my hair. But until we figure out my hair, listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the Iheart radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Until next time, have a good.

great day and if she looks good blonde i might consider it next thanks for joining us hi my name is enya umanzor and i'm drew phillips and we run a podcast called emergency intercom if you're a crime junkie and you love crimes we're not the podcast for you but if you have unmedicated ADHD oh my god perfect and one of hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.

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