Bachelor Happy Hour - It Pays to Be Mindful | ‘Golden Hour’

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back with another round of Friday Fan Questions! We kick off today’s episode with our question of the day: What do you do if your fiancé is a dream b...ut the engagement ring sucks? Then, we get into some of your questions! This week, Bachelor Nation is looking for help with “almond moms,” battles over baby names, and so much more. Tune in now to hear it all, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  If you have a question for Kathy and Susan, head to BachelorNation.Com/GoldenHour to submit your question now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your... free iHeartRadio app search emergency internetcom and listen now I just normally do straight stand-up but this is a bit different what do you get when a true crime producer
Starting point is 00:00:39 walks into a comedy club answer a new podcast called Wisecrack where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story does anyone know what show they've come to see it's a story it's about the scariest night of my life
Starting point is 00:00:54 this is Wisecrack available now listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Welcome. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. We're back. Kathy, you're so excited. Always, always. Thank you all for joining us. And I don't know, I'm feeling like a broken record, Susan, because if you haven't listened to our episode on Wednesday, you might have missed out, I don't know, they're all great, but Kylie Russell was with us. You need to check it out because we had so much fun. I don't know, Susan, tell, I didn't know what to start. She spoke the truth. I mean, everybody needs to hear this. She came clean and she spoke what really that she's going through and everything that she went
Starting point is 00:02:22 through. She was a perfect lady. She was just adorable. They just broke up. was hurting and healing. She was amazing. I have to say to you, you and I being 39 years old or a little more. But seriously, I was so proud of her. I mean, and happy for her at the same time, happy that she turned the page, knew she needed to turn the page, but just so honest and heartfelt. And she gave a second chance. She tried really hard. She shared everything.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Guys, if you did not hear this episode, you need to listen because they met on Paradise and they fell in love. And she said they had been together for a year when they broke up. And he broke up with her. He needs this head examined. And she said she trusted that he was trying and giving her all. But I'm not going to give it all the way. You guys definitely go back and listen to that one. You're right, Susan.
Starting point is 00:03:27 This is a great one. and it's, it's, it's, it really is kind of an earth-shattering, I think. It was good. It was good. And earth-shattering, maybe it's over-speaking it, but it is a great episode and I'm so proud of her, so proud of her. And today, we're answering more of our fan questions, and we're so excited to get into these. I love these things when they ask us stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Oh, gosh. It's, it's, I feel like it's just so much fun to give our advice and listen to what other people have to say. Yeah, and here are some other people's advice, like what Kylie joined in with us for some advice. Wasn't she amazing? Oh, she's 26 years old? God bless what I wouldn't give. It gives me hope. Gives me hope. All right, Kathy, before we get into these questions, let's get started with my favorite today's question of the day. So lately, this has been a big topic of discussion online. If you are proposed to with a ring, you really don't like what would you do? You know, I got to be honest. I think in today's world, people talk about when they're
Starting point is 00:04:37 getting engaged, what kind of ring they want. They go ring shopping. The element of- But, Kat, that's not what it says here. Somebody, you're dating and you love, drops down with a ring, and you hate it. You hate it. You know what I'm going to do. Not right then and there. You say yes first, And then later say, babe, this isn't what I wanted. If you really don't like the ring, but you really like the guy, you say, get up off your knees. Yeah, I'm going to marry you. But we got to exchange this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:10 But I, you know, I know it's a hot topic and I know that people do it. Really? I'd have to suffer in quiet for a little bit. I don't want to hurt his feelings. Baby, who helped you pick this out? This is not me. And then you're going to wear it for the next 50 years? No, I'm going to have them trade it up probably.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, it's, it's, they didn't say size of rain, Susan. They did not say four carrot versus half a carrot. How ugly could it be, really? Well, listen, I was on an airplane yesterday with two people who are about to get engaged and they've been ring shopping. And she showed me pictures of what she wants. And right down. Did you give her her number? Maybe she'll call and tell you after she hears this.
Starting point is 00:05:56 She actually asked for my jeweler's phone number because she wants to have her design it because my jeweler is a great designer. And as soon as my jeweler gives me a free piece of jewelry, I'll give her a call out on the show. Until then, her name is jeweler. Anyway, I would. Let's start with our question. I would, though. What would you do?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Wait, would you seriously wear it or would you? I mean, I'd wear it that first night and then I would go home with him and say, babe. I love you, but I love you. You're asking me to wear something that I don't. love. It's not me. Yeah. I have to be honest. Yeah. Okay. I would do it. All right. Let's move along to our questions. And here's our first one. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I'm currently four months pregnant with my and my husband's first child. And I am so excited. So far, congratulations. Congrats. So far, everything has gone fairly smoothly except for this. I have three, I had three names picked out for my future
Starting point is 00:06:55 children for as long as I can remember. I didn't really think this would be something my husband would have a huge interest in, but I was wrong. Now we both have our own favorite names for our future child and no idea how to compromise. There hasn't been anything malicious said to one another or even any stubbornness, but it's obvious that we both clearly are excited about the names we've always loved and have no idea how to compromise. Any suggestions on finding a middle ground? here? Ouch. I know when I had mine, when I had my twins, my second pregnancy, I had two names that I won
Starting point is 00:07:38 it so bad, and he had a fit. He had a fit. So, and with my first born, we liked two names, two different names. And I said, let's just wait to see what she looks like. So I kind of won that. Doesn't she look like a Britney? me. So I will tell you my first... I gave in. I gave it.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So my first child, if it was a boy, if it was going to be a girl, her name was going to be Caitlin. And back then, Caitlin, I'm telling you, people get, what's the name? Caitlin was not a popular name. So I had a son, and my husband and I agreed on the name Douglas. And my daughter didn't come to the third one. And by then, you know, Caitlin's were a dime a dozen but she's still Caitlin my daughter when literally when she had her child 14 months ago I asked them what names and they wouldn't share and my daughter said they were struggling to come up with the name they both liked and she said they each made lists and they crossed off names you know blah blah blah and tried to come up with a shortened list and she was really getting tough and when
Starting point is 00:08:46 they came out of the deliver room and told me the name of the baby I swear Susan I think thought they were giving me the name of somebody else's child. I'm not kidding. Except I knew it was her child because the middle name was my deceased husband's name. Her name is Therese Daryl is her name. And I was like, Teresa, where did that come from? Turns out it's a family name. There's been one girl in every generation.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And so once they came upon that name, so my advice to you would be, even though you've got favorite names that you like, why don't you go back in your families and see if there's a name, a family name that you guys can come to an agreement on? That's one suggestion, yeah. If not, it's really bad. Put all the names in a hat and when they're born, you can pick, each pick one and look at the child. And sometimes names are fitting when you look at somebody. I don't get, you know, I've heard people say that.
Starting point is 00:09:43 When I look at a baby, I see a bald cue ball, usually crying with a wet diaper. Mine had a ton of black hair. Yeah. Like, I mean, oh, that looks like a Jason. What? Oh, that looks like Louise. What? I never get that. I've never gotten that. But yeah, that's a tough one. Good luck with that. Congratulations on being pregnant. I would encourage you to look at family names if you can't agree on either of your names. Or pick one is first name and one is a middle name. Trust me, you've got bigger problems coming than what you name this child. Good luck with us. Teenage. Teenage. Okay, moving right along. Hi. Kathy and Susan, I have a question about how to deal with my mother. Growing up, my mom was what the kids call an almond mom. I've never saw her have proper eating habits. And in one way or another, she always encouraged a lifestyle of not eating a lot at all. I didn't really understand the impact of it on my life until around college. Now I have a six-year-old daughter who is my entire world. Recently at a family party, my mom made a comment that brought me back to all those little
Starting point is 00:10:54 comments she said throughout my childhood. Thankfully, my daughter wasn't an earshot, but this was too close of a call for me to forget about it. How do I approach my mom about this? The hardest part for me has always been that the comments aren't directed towards me. There are comments about herself, that they are said around other people. So it makes it hard for me to confront her on it. I really don't want my daughter to have the same experience. I did when it comes to body images, et cetera. So I really need to take care of this ASAP. And the advice would be so appreciative. Thank you. An almond mom? In other words, your meal is having a handful of almonds. And I got to tell you, I got to tell, yeah, it's, I have to tell you, a lot of times I keep saying these questions are like, did my kids write this question?
Starting point is 00:11:55 I was, as everyone knows, I weighed 200 pounds at one time and unwittingly, I made comments and my kids noticed and eating disorder was a thing. and when I realized I was appalled that I had done that because it certainly was not intentional and now my granddaughters like my 15-month-old granddaughter has oh my god the chubby chute on them
Starting point is 00:12:29 I love her and I make comments like oh my gosh she's got to keep those like almost the opposite because I will never do that again I feel sorry for you because I don't think your mom does it intentionally. She probably has something like I did in my childhood and in my own life that made me, you know, eat and and unwittingly said it to my kids. So I think you got to talk to her. I think so too. I think you should tell your mom what it did to you as a kid.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Maybe she doesn't even realize that. You got to use the ice tape. Share that. Mom, this is how I felt. and I don't want my child to experience that same feeling. But thank you. Thanks for sharing that with us. Yeah. And just remind her because, you know, it's not going to be easy for her to stop. No, she probably won.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And you just kind of have to remind her. That's what that's, and once she understands what it means to you, because you know what, body image, I don't know, Susan, if your daughter had body image problems, but with the internet and people, you know, all they see all the air brushing in magazines like reality is not although larger figures and full figure bodies they're exposed and they're confident that is a welcome sign in this world in this generation it is it is but it still goes back to i get it yeah i mean it's in to be thin kind of thing i mean kids starving themselves to look a certain way because they want to look like that model they saw um you know on online and and remember victoria secret only had the skinniest of skinny models and
Starting point is 00:14:12 now they're showing full figure i mean their people are getting it but that problem still is yeah i i think the fact that we are saying they're doing full figured we don't say oh they have thin models here we go again we have to define it as a full figure model as opposed to oh they have new models Our next model is, you know, so I get it. But definitely have a conversation. Yeah, have the conversation with her. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:14:55 What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time
Starting point is 00:15:17 in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault. on America as we know it, we'll be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics
Starting point is 00:15:37 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Starting point is 00:16:00 Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people. people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose
Starting point is 00:16:17 between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him
Starting point is 00:16:57 the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next day. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, here's our next one. Okay. Hi, Kathy and Susan.
Starting point is 00:17:22 By the way, that last question made me want to get a snack. Okay. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I'm writing to ask about a situation going on with my. best friend Leah. We have been best friends for almost 12 years and have been by each other's side for some of our biggest life experiences, good and bad. She's currently engaged to a really amazing guy and is the happiest I've ever seen her. However, in the past year, she's really been struggling. She has something called PMDD. It's basically a mental and physical condition
Starting point is 00:17:58 that makes her PMS really, really terrible. In past years, her PMDD then undiagnosed was something that I happily helped her through. She's always been very responsible about managing it. It's come in waves in terms of intensity. And in the past year, it's been the most intense I've ever seen it. The problem is that I've always been able to empathize because I'm a woman. her fiancé on the other hand can't understand this experience so he's really lost when her PMDD gets really bad how can I help them get through this my boyfriend and I have a very close
Starting point is 00:18:40 relationship to her fiancee and my best friend has a lot of trust in me so broaching the conversation won't be an issue I just don't know what advice to give him or how to get him to understand what happens to her when she gets these really intense ways of depression or impatience. When she's feeling good and normal during the better times of her cycle, Leah has been really communicative and proactive about the role of her PMDD in her relationship. But I can tell when she's feeling really low, her fiancé feels lost and Leah struggles to communicate her needs. I'm just worried about her and I hate to see her fiance get so down, which she's not feeling well. How do I tackle this big conversation and how can I help them?
Starting point is 00:19:29 What a shame. So my first thought, help him get educated on this PMDD, whether there's some paperwork or something you can share with him and to get through that time. It's not the whole month, right? It's just a short period. I don't know. I got to be honest, I've never, I know what PMS is. Sure, sure. But I've never heard of PMDD. I'm guessing it is a more lengthy and more severe. Depressed, yeah, and anxiety. I wonder, you know, she's taking a lot on here. I wonder if her friend has gone to the doctor, if there's medication. That's what I'm, right, and educate yourself on it. How do you, there's so much information out there on how to deal with diseases or issues or and and the reality is there you know what susan there may be nothing that can be
Starting point is 00:20:26 done for it and and any and if he's going to marry her he's going to sign on for this person who changes behavior uh and turns in that's hard it's hard but but you she shared that they're both really good friends with him too so sit down and and work through some kind of a strategy when you see it coming on then you turn on this part you know you know know what I mean, that you can deal, the ways to deal with it. I mean, yeah, I think that's a great idea. It's a big job. Yeah, or maybe they agree that they have less communication.
Starting point is 00:21:01 They, you know, stay apart a little bit more. I mean, it's like saying, I have something that's not going away. He has to accept that this is going to be a part of their relationship. I mean, it's just, it's not going away. I'm so sorry for it. I hope you're being a good friend and just educate yourself and them the best that you can. Yeah, help him to learn because he ultimately, if he marries this woman, is going to be dealing with it on a monthly basis. I hope the wedding isn't during that.
Starting point is 00:21:30 She won't even enjoy it. You know what I mean? If you're down, then it's your wedding day. How do you like, oh. I mean. Okay. Thank you. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Only you would think of that. Plan your wedding carefully, says the wedding efficient. Thank you, Susan. Hi, Kathy and Susan. My question is about love languages. Oh, God. You know, can I just say, I'm letting you answer this question because I don't get it. All right, go. I'm currently about two months into dating someone. We have similar interest, have a great time on dates, and are very attracted to each other. The only thing I'm noticing right now that might be a red flag is actually our love languages. I've never really paid attention to love. language before, but I literally couldn't help but notice this time around. I'm a big cuddlebug. I love hugs. I think this is me writing this. I love giving kisses, holding hands, you name it.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I've dated people in the past that don't like PDA and have come to learn that PDA is something I can definitely compromise on. However, this guy doesn't have an issue with PDA. He just can't stand being touched. He still gives me a hug when he sees me. He will kiss me, et cetera. So it's not incredibly extreme. But when we're watching TV together or just hanging out, he constantly needs his space. Do you think this is something we can or even should compromise on? Since it's so early on to us dating, I really want to make a smart decision about this. When I think about breaking it off over this, I feel silly, but going without physical touch has made me realize how much I really appreciate it when I am dating someone. I also haven't brought this up yet, only because I'm not sure how to.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So that advice would be awesome as well. Thanks so much. I love you both and do love your podcast. I can relate to her. I'm listening. What's my favorite C word, Kath? communication absolutely and he's not going to be able to give you all of that but if he understands that you really feel a certain way when you don't get it like you got to compromise a little too
Starting point is 00:24:00 you can't hang all over him during the movie but he might hold your hand for a minute it doesn't have to be the whole movie first of all for any of you people who've been living under a rock for the last 20 years. PDA stands for public displays of affection. He's okay with that, though. Well. Says he was okay with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:21 In the first line, do you think she's putting the card before the horse here? They've been dating two months. Two months. He might not even be sure he wants to see her next week, but she's worried about. It could be that. Maybe he is a touchy-feely guy.
Starting point is 00:24:36 You know what she should do? she should turn on the movie he's just not that into you oh my god i'm saying no in all honesty i don't know if if the guy needs his space and he's not that guy and he and he's not your guy he's not your guy listen learn early on you cannot remake a man you cannot make him into something you want you can try real hard and ask yourself can you live with this that's right if And if at month six, he still is like on the opposite and the, you know, sofa with his hand in the popcorn and drinking a beer in the other hand and looks at you like, how'd you get into my house? He's probably not your guy. So you've got to give it some time and see if things change and see if it matures into a relationship.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But ultimately, if he doesn't give you what you want and need, you need to, the love language I'm giving you is move along. You know, I think all of, yes, I do. And I want to thank every single one that wrote into us. And you guys are the best. And we love that you love our podcast. I know. And if you have a question, you already know the drill. Just send it to bachelornation.com slash golden hour.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And keep them coming because we really do enjoy. And you know what? If you have a question, I guarantee you there's somebody else out there who has the same question and we'll appreciate the answer. I'm Jemail Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free Eyeheart Radio. app, search emergency intercom, and listen now. Hola, it's HoneyGerman. And my podcast, Grasasas Come Again, is back. This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment, with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition?
Starting point is 00:27:54 No, I didn't audition. I haven't audition in, like, over 25 years. Oh, wow. That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters sharing their real stuff. stories of failure and success.
Starting point is 00:28:09 You were destined to be a start. We talk all about what's viral and trending with a little bit of chisement, a lot of laughs, and those amazing Vibras you've come to expect. And of course, we'll explore deeper topics dealing with identity, struggles, and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewash
Starting point is 00:28:30 because you have to do the code switching? I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know what I'm me? Yeah. But the whole pretending and coat, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Before we wrap things up, Susan, we are going to play a really quick game of moral quandary. And because I love this game so much and love teaching Susan what it means to play moral quandary, which means she has to tell me what I would do and I tell her what she would do. She can't, she's struggling with that, but we're going to give it our... All you guys listening out there, write us to tell me how many of you, when you hear this question, don't think immediately what you, how you would react. Just tell me I'm normal. You are, oh, Susan, you're apple pie normal.
Starting point is 00:29:26 The issue is not what you think of as the answer. The issue is what comes out of your mouth. You need to zip it and only answer what. I would do. All right, go ahead. Here we go. Your best friend's brother that you've always had a crush on expresses interest in you. But you know your best friend would be really weirded out by you dating her brother.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Do you try to talk to her about it or decide there are other fish in the seed that won't disrupt your friendship? Susan, without a doubt, would be talking to that girl. And if that girl said, hell no, you're not dating my brother. She'd say, watch me. Sorry, but I am. Yeah. What would I do?
Starting point is 00:30:10 I mean, if you had a crush on the guy, you would date it. I mean, yes. I think you would do it anyhow. Would I talk to her or would I just date the guy? I think you would start by dating the guy and then when she said something, you would address it. You're half right. I would either do that. Do you hear that, ladies and gentlemen?
Starting point is 00:30:35 I'm getting better at this. You know what? Stick around, listen to this podcast another 10 years. She's going to have it down like silk. I still want to quit the game, but go ahead. I love moral quandary. It's like, doesn't it make you feel better like we know what we would do? No.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I struggle with this. But I honestly, you're right. I would, I don't, if I really liked him and I wanted to date him and I knew the sister, then best friend the sister's oh right i'm sorry that's right that's so yeah i'm going to date the guy once and if i think i want to go out with him i'm going to say hey susan i really like your brother brother i i know it's going to be weird but you'll get over it but i would not stop me agreement yeah okay next one your boyfriend is really great to you but can never seem to get it right when it comes to presents. He's always getting you silver jewelry when you've only ever worn gold. Tickets to
Starting point is 00:31:36 events you've never been interested in doing and clothes that are clearly not your style. Is this breakup worthy? Do you try to talk to him about it or do you keep it to yourself? All right. I got to think what Kathy would do. I feel like we might be on the same page with this. Okay, well, I think in the beginning, you're just going to accept and then just really share. Like, this isn't my style. I was married to the guy that on Christmas, I was going up or I was telling me. Oh, I did it again. Oh, dear Lord.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I got, I'm so sorry. I quit. I am fired. Could someone write in. I have explained the rules of this game. I don't know, 10, 15 times. I mean, seriously, I'm going to go out and catch a bus and get a drink at the local bar. When you can figure out this game, Susan, call me and we'll continue this episode.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I swear to God. All right, Kathy, what would I do? What would you do? No, it's not what I would do. Yes. What would you do? What would you do? Oh, now she's learning.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Okay, what would I do? I said that first, and then I went right into hell I feel. I would, you're absolutely right. And you are right. We would do it together. I would take it initially. In fact, my husband, I've got to be honest, my husband grew up in upstate New York where, I was about to say something horrible.
Starting point is 00:33:02 All right, I'm going to say it anyway, where sheep are sheep and men are afraid. I mean, he grew up in the sticks. I know. He said that. Actually, my husband said that to me. I was kind of afraid to go to his hometown. But seriously, he grew up. And so, you know, let's just say fashion was not number one on their list.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And so when he first bought me presents, it was like, oh, boy. I mean, not that I had great taste, but I grew up outside of Boston. I shopped in the city. You know, it was a little bit different. And so in the beginning, I said, thank you so much. But let me tell you, over time, and it took me, oh, 30 seconds, I said, darling, I love you to pieces. And you know what he did? He learned to buy jewelry.
Starting point is 00:33:48 You've seen my jewelry. Yes, he did a good job. It wasn't silver. Yeah, it wasn't silver. My husband was so big. every Christmas my kids got involved said, Dad, do you not know, Mom? I
Starting point is 00:34:00 nailed it. I will go by my presents. Oh, you're kidding me. You would go buy your own presents? No, I picked out what I liked and bought them and wrapped them. It sucked. Wait a minute. Susan, that is as bad as unwrapping guests before Christmas and fainting surprise when you open them.
Starting point is 00:34:16 There were no surprises. So wait a minute. You went and picked out your own presents? Yeah. I want to cry for you. I know. are the next guy please get it right i'm going to surprise you this year with a really great present the rules of moral quandary now i'm going to i'm going to chisel them i'm going to chisel them in a tablet your next one you have to read now because god there's still three of them
Starting point is 00:34:40 where are we i've lost your mother-in-law always oh oh always my mother-in-law oh god all right here we go okay oh my god wait can we break the rules can i answer this because this was my mother-in-law your mother-in-law always makes little jabs at you whenever you're around my mother my mother-in-law stabbed me okay one day during a family party after a few classes of wine in a joking tone you ask her why she's always so bitchy yep i did that too your mother-in-law takes major offense yep and your husband asks you to apologize nope because you went a little far how do you proceed do you apologize or push back what would i do i know i know your story so i know what you would do. What I did. Well, no, would you apologize. You would never.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Damn right. You'd be pushing right on back. And you would apologize profusely. I love you. No, I wouldn't. Read it again. After a few glasses of wine, in a joking tone, you ask her,
Starting point is 00:35:44 why are you always so bitchy? Yeah, but she asked. Your mother-in-law takes major offense. And your husband asked you. Your husband asked you. Your husband. ask you to apologize. Well, it wouldn't be a sincere one.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'd be going like, mom, seriously, all right, I'm sorry. But you are bitchy. Yeah. Well, an apology, if the word but is in an apology, it's not an apology. Just say it. My point. I mean, my mother-in-law, ugh. It actually wasn't my mother-in-law, it's my father-in-law.
Starting point is 00:36:13 All right, carry on. You got your boyfriend tickets to a concert that you both have been dying to go to. When he opens the card's card and sees him. his gift. He is so excited and thanks you profusely. He then says, Kathy, it's going to freak out when I tell him we're going. Wait. It's going to freak out when I tell him we are going. In other words, the guy's taking his friend. Oh, my God. Did you tell him the tickets were intended for you to or did you let them take who we want? Okay, Susan, what would I do? Well, I know what you would do. What would you would do?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah. Babe, you and I are going to that. John is going to be sitting home watching it on the closed circuit TV at the bar. Am I right? Not like that, but I'd be like, wait, what? These are for us. Yeah. See, you would do the same.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You would let him go. Hell no. With somebody else. No. Hell no. That's a dumb one. See, I hate this game. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:21 On your way out the door to work, you realize you left your keys. I've done it many times. When you walk back inside, you overhear your boyfriend on the phone with a female friend of his that you really don't like. You realize they're making plans to hang out this weekend and tells his friend that'll talk to you about them later so you both can make it. Do you come up with plans so you're unavailable? Do you try to make it so you're both unavailable? Or do you grin and bear it and go with him despite really? really not liking this girl.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Well, for us, it's got to be a guy. What would I do? I think you would address it with him and say, I don't want to go. You'd go? I'd go. Really? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:05 See, can I just tell you? This question had me at, I forgot my keys and I come back in and he's on the phone. Oh, there's more going on there. Oh, I didn't look at it like that. Yeah, of course you didn't. But I did. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:21 They're just a trusting soul. I am too, but not that. You left your keys. Have I told you I hate it this game? I know. But I, I, your boyfriend's on the phone with a female friend of his. Why? Why did he wait to get on the phone, you know, when you, when, did she call him?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Did he call her? Why, you know, he, does he know you don't like her? I mean, there's so many questions here. But at the, at the end of the day, I'm going to say, you know what? I don't really want to go out with her. If we want to go out together and invite another couple, I'm going to come up with a different solution. I am.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Okay. Fair enough. And you're really going? You're going to grin and bear it. I mean, yeah, I guess I would. Golly. I don't know. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Okay, all you guys who want to cheat, give Susan a call. She's a cheap date. Yeah, I don't like the game. Why? Because I can never think. How do you know what somebody else is going to, how they're going to react? You don't know. It's a quandary.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Quondry means you're wondering. You're thinking about it. You don't know, but it's just thinking about it. By the way, rule of thumb there is do not leave your keys in the house and then you don't have to know whether he's on the phone. You know, this stuff really happens, Susan. It does. Well, that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It sure does. Thanks so much for joining us. It's actually, wait, Susan, it's actually Golden Hour. It's Golden Happy Hour, right? Hey, that does it for this episode of Golden Hour. Thank you again, guys, for joining us and bearing with our humor. And I want to know how everybody else can guess their best friend's answer. Yes, please join in and play moral quandary with us.
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