Bachelor Happy Hour - Jade Roper & Carly Waddell, Plus: Co-Host Krystal Nielson

Episode Date: October 23, 2019

“Bachelor in Paradise” alums (and moms) Jade and Carly open up about their experiences with “mom shaming.” Plus, they talk with Rachel and co-host Krystal Nielson about marriage, sex, and staying intimate with their husbands after having kids.For more information on the book Krystal discusses in today’s podcast, visit BachelorNation.com.Be sure to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm your girl, Rachel, and joining me in the studio today is none other than Crystal Nilsen. What's up, girl? Thank you so much for having me. Well, I'm happy to have you back, because when you were here last time, I wasn't here with you. You were on your honeymoon. I was on my honeymoon. Was it in Greece? It was in Greece. Oh, how was it? It was amazing. It was amazing. But I listened to you from afar. You killed it. So I'm happy to be sitting here with you today and co-hosting. Thank you so much. I'm happy to be back. I was telling you in the bathroom. You didn't know this, but I actually lost my voice when I came last time and did the and I hosted with Holly. I had no voice. I almost wish that you still didn't because that's like one of the things that people tried to get onto you from your season. I know. I would be like, she's back. I'm so ficking this right now. Well, congratulations to you. I have not seen you since you've been married.

Thank you. Thank you. You were beautiful. You were stunning. Thank you. I literally have to say everything right back at you. Well, this is what's funny. We're all hitched up girls now.

I know. Isn't it exciting? Newly wets. We have that glow going. One of the things people don't know is that I saw Crystal while she was trying on her wedding dress. And do you remember my words to you? I said, oh my God. I just came up here to make sure your dress didn't look like my bitch.

Didn't look just like mine. You did. And then I said, you look absolutely stunning. I know. I don't know if I'd actually chosen the dress when you ran down that I was in my one of 26 dresses that I had been trying on. You tried on 26. We should have a totally different podcast of just talking about all the pre-wedding dress. I got a video montage of all those dresses, girl.

I tried on four. I'll show you later. Four? And one was like black pants. It's a whole not. Oh, thank you. But anyways, as much as Crystal and I could keep going, this podcast is not just about us because we have some very special guys. joining us on the podcast today, none other giving us all the advice about weddings and kids and

being a mom and finding that work-life balance. We've got Carly and Jay joining us. What's up, ladies? Hello. Hi, thank you guys so much for joining us. You know, Rich and I were just chatting about how excited it is being at newlyweds and how we, you know, are looking forward to being moms in the somewhat near future. So we were hoping that we could have you on this podcast. podcast and share with us some tips and tricks and some advice on preparing for that next chapter of our lives. Yeah, we want to dive in and just get all up in your business. Okay?

Yeah, absolutely. Also, you guys, Carly and I didn't change our last names either, so. You didn't. Are we feminist because we don't change our last names? Because I'm kind of for it. It's too much work. It's too much work. And like, I don't know. It just gives like a way part of my identity. I feel, you know, actually, I feel the same way. And it was something when, um, when I was getting married, everyone was asking me and I was getting a lot of shame on Instagram about it. And people were like, why aren't you going to change your name? Like, do you not see the relationship working out. And for me, I think I wasn't really sure why I was feeling so defensive. And what I kind of had uncovered in doing that work was that for a long

time, it took me to really love and appreciate who I am today. And like Crystal Nelson, my last name and taking ownership of that and everything that came with it. I'm really proud to be her and I didn't want to be somebody else. I wanted to be me. I like that. Yes, girl. I love that. I feel like the happy medium is just changing it on Instagram, right? Like, people think I'm like, oh, I'm Rachel Lindsay, I'm a solo now. Just Instagram official. Nothing else. Totally. I went with Wayne and Chucky Nielsen hyphen Rendon. There you go. I went with the dogs. Oh, that's a good idea. Oh, copper, my dog's here right now.

So he might join in as the third co-host of the show. Cute. Okay, so we wanted to chat with you guys about a lot of people on the show say that, you know, we're just putting it on for real, that these relationships are just for show. But we're all married women. And so I wanted to get some advice and just ask you girls, when people ask, is it real or does it really work? Do you have, like, how do you respond to that? because I know how I respond. So I'm curious with you a little more deeper into these relationships.

How do you respond? I think it bothers me. So I just like, does your relationship like work? You know what I mean? Like I just want to throw it back on them and be like, does yours? Like how is that fair for you to ask me that just because mine was on TV and yours wasn't? Like, I mean, relationships are, every relationship is so different and every relationship it's face work, you know what I mean?

But like that, I just think that's so silly. Like, why would I be faking it for three years? Like, come on. And two babies. Yeah, exactly. And buying houses together. We do it and create babies. Like, you can't fake that.

No, you can't. And I think it's, I want to say, it's so awesome and admirable to look up to both of you. And I know I said this like at reunion, but it's been, it's been really special for Chris and I to be able to connect with both of you guys and see your marriage and see your family's growing because it's something that Chris and I aspire to and navigating in these waters. I mean, outside in the real world, but especially in this bachelor bubble of having your relationship so highly profiled and having so much

constant criticism and feedback and opinions about who you are and what you should do. It can be really difficult. So have you guys received any, do people like chime in, I'm sure, about your parenting styles or your relationships and if so how do you respond back at that and do you not do you take it personally or have you learned to shut it out i used to take it personally because they do everyone will comment on every little thing especially once you become a parent um because everybody feels like they know better than you but yeah but now i learned to kind of like take a step back and see it from like more of an outside perspective what this person is trying to say and they're probably they may be meaning well then maybe not but in the end it's my family I know it's best

for my family I know it's best for my child and I'm going to listen to my mother intuition and there may be something that's good advice that somebody's trying to tell me and I will look that up and I will like take that as for what it is but ultimately I have just had to learn to like not get defensive because the mommy bear will come out, especially when it's your kids. Like, you want to attack people. But the fierceness comes out. And I'm a nice person, but I will go to battle for my kids. But I've learned that, like, social media is just a place where people think that they can just be whatever they want and not have any consequences.

So I've learned to just kind of just, like, not even bother with those people. Yeah. How do you deal with that? Because it's a whole other level. Like you say you're talking about Mama Bear, you know, I know before you had kids, you feel like you have to defend your relationship because everybody's questioning it, questioning it and everyone's skeptical. And now you have children and you have people questioning that. And I know that one thing Crystal and I were talking about was this concept of mommy shaming that's a whole other level to it because now you're bringing children, which children should always be off limits. But talk to us a bit about that. Like how have you handled the mommy shaming that you've received from social media? media. And can you also just please clarify what is mommy shaming because I had no idea that this was a thing

and apparently it is. So can you please clarify to the listeners, what is mommy shaming and how do you deal with it? Well, Mommy Mommy shaming is next level when you're somebody in the public. Horrible. Yeah. It's really just

judging apparent choices and making them feel guilty for it and we're already as moms already have enough guilt. Like we're already trying to be a perfect parent for our kids. And so it's just the judgment that other people, because people parent differently all over the world. You know, culturally, people parent differently,

just even my neighbor next door parents differently than I do. It's just what's best for our family. But people like to bring that in and try to put it on top of you. And so that's kind of when people get shamed. I guess that's what you would consider mommy shaming is those comments that people are saying. Did you have any idea what it would be like?

being in the public eye and then having a family, like that you would receive this kind of feedback as much as you do. And feedback I use is a very positive term. That's a nice spin of on it. I feel like one thing I really love about you, Jade, though, is like if somebody says something to you on social media, you always, like, you don't always, but like you sometimes when you feel really strongly about something,

you will post a comment back that is like so well-worded. and like I don't know it just it's like what every mom wants to say but no one knows how to say it properly and you like shut those people down in like the nicest kindest way what what do people mom shame you guys for everything oh everything breathing I mean it's really anything it's it's like intense things from like gosh you know the most intense things are like do vaccinate your kids or do not vaccinate your kids which we don't even usually talk about but there's things like sleep training like do you let your kid cry it out do you not let your kid cry it out how long do you breastfeed oh my gosh it's a little chilly outside why doesn't your kid have a coat on why did you do that why did your kid not have shoes on it's outside they could step on something Like, it just goes from so drastic, the big stuff to the small stuff. It's like it doesn't end. So if I could play like devil's advocate for a second.

You know, when we were talking earlier, we were talking about how people have an opinion about our relationships because we fell in love in such a public way. And then people feel like they can have an opinion about children because we have our children on social media and we, you know, do stories and Instagram videos and we post pictures, and so they feel like, and not saying that they do by any means, but they feel like they have the right to speak on it because you have put your child out there.

So what I'm interested in what you guys think about posting your children on social media. And I know, Jade, you have a social media account for Emmy and for Brooks. Is it Brooks? Yes. Yeah. And Brooks, too. Carly, I don't think you do. But what do you think the balance is?

in regards to posting your children on social media? Like you said, I do feel like people are entitled to their opinions or their comments. As long as they're, I mean, like the malicious ones are the ones that I just do not bother with. Like those people are crossing a boundary. There are boundaries. There should be etiquette. It's social media. You know better.

So you can post comments. I don't mind that. Regarding my children on social media, I do think it is a different era. My child already knows how to use an iPad. We're kind of navigating parenting in a tech world, which has never really been done before. And so it's kind of a new space. And I don't know if people really know how to handle it yet. But I feel like it's going to be more and more common for young children to be on their parents' social media.

I run my kids' accounts. My number one priority is always my child's safety. We never post anything appropriate or inappropriate. we never post anything that would any any way like impose a threat to their safety um so for me I feel like our family is kind of like like you said crystal like I try to use my family as something that people can look up to to see love and see how a family can come together and what our family life is like it's just like a glimpse inside of our family but I always try to use it for good, but I'm always, always thinking of my children's safety first.

Awesome. I think it's really great that the two of you are being advocates about Mommy shaming and having these conversations because I have had no idea what it was. And I'm just hearing the tonality in your voices and just seeing how much it impacts you. And I can understand in the aspect of, you know, whether you grew up with great parents or not, but there's definitely got to be a place, a painful spot where it kind of japped where people are constantly jabbing at. Like, are you being the best parent that you can be?

And it would be really hard to not take that personally. Yeah. Just think about it's like you're, it's, you both have dogs. Like think about people saying something like, oh, your dog shouldn't be wearing that collar. You're pulling it and wrong. Those are fighting words.

Those are fighting words. You know what I mean? So think of that and then you go, you take that and you. put it on like another level which you guys will know when you have kids because jade and i had dogs first as well and then it's like you want to you want to go through and like murder all of those no ends on the other side because like you have no idea i'm the best parent for my child i'm the best parent for my dog i know what i'm doing and you're doing and you're doing the best job possible

carly i want to ask you um do you receive this being a stepmom, do you receive this feedback and this mom is shaming as a stepmom as well? It's so funny. I was going to say, so life has been so different in the past like six months because now the boys are really funny about social media as they've gotten older. They'll be like, so I haven't posted them because they're like, I don't like that picture of me, so I don't want it out there. Like they're so funny. So people will be like, you know, where are the boys? And I'm like, they're not in my photos because they're telling me I can't do it.

Like, you know, it's like so silly. And I'm like, we have the boys have time. I'm with Bella all the time. Like it's a different dynamic, but mostly it's because teenagers want to scrutinize their faces on every photo. And I don't have time to sit around there and be like, is this one okay? Is this one okay? Right. Of course, yeah. They're like auto-tune it, Mom. Carly, in your defense, in your defense, I have witnessed your stepson not want to take a picture with Evan when we were on Strayhand and Sarah. He was like, absolutely not.

So in your defense. That was so funny because Evan posted that photo and then he was like, Dad, you have to take that photo down. Like, that's when it started. That was literally when it started, Rachel. No, I know. So I know it's a real thing and I know it's out there. Real quick, because I know you guys, you know, you're good friends. you work together, but how do you differ in your parent styles? Parenting styles. I think it's just like what life has kind of thrown us, right, Carly? Because I feel, yeah. I mean, you can breastfeed like forever and I quit like before I begin. That's one thing.

Which is like, okay. like this time around too I'm having a harder time with my breastfeeding journey and so it's just I feel like I don't feel like we do that much differently yet you can't discipline is just starting to fall into our lives with our children because they're

getting to that age where they're testing the boundaries and so we're so I don't know if we even discipline differently but there's just things in our lives like our breastfeeding journeys have been different and obviously you're a stepmom so you have things that you have to deal with

I've never had to deal with and I guess I think go ahead I don't know I was just going to say I feel like even the things that we do aren't that different but like we talk to each other about I mean like we talk to each other every single day and if you did something wildly different than me like I'm so interested in like oh my gosh how does that work or why do you do like that's so cool like that's so different for me it's almost like the differences are really interesting and we support that and yeah there's like no there's never been any judgment in any of those areas only support yeah motherhood is a very lonely experience sometimes and so i feel like harley and i understand that and we've experienced that so we try to uplift each other and support each other um it's that solidarity that i think motherhood should have more of. And so even when she makes a decision that I may not necessarily agree with, I just let it slide off me because it's none of my business. Yeah. I think it's really special that you guys have each other because it was, it's one thing when you, I know when we all,

I'm sure, met our husbands, especially for me in paradise. And I'm sure Carly and Jade, you can attest to this. But after the bachelor, it was kind of hard for me to date, regular guys. Yeah. Yeah. Because you just, there's just so much trust that you really got to work. through. And then when I met Chris and was able to come out of paradise and have this relationship where we got to do this, this scrutiny, this magnifying glass of life now together. I mean, wow, how we were able to bond and really come together as a team and just that level of support is priceless that you can pay. So I can't imagine being able to have a mommy friend who can also like at the same time be pregnant. Are you guys? Did you guys? Did you guys?

plan the second baby together you know what it's so funny so both my babies have been oopsies but i mean they're the greatest they're my greatest choice but they were both not planned and so i mean i called jade and i was like oh my god jade i'm pregnant she's like oh my god no way and we had like hoped in dreams to have another baby closer together because we wanted bumps at the same time but like i was not i mean i was doing it but i wasn't we were pulling it out. Great. That's the method Brian and I are using too.

Listen. Evan has like super semen or something. I don't know. Yeah. How many kids does he have? He has four? Five? This will be his fifth. Five. Wow. Super smart. He's a crazy man. More.

So you mentioned, and I think it's Jada was you who mentioned that motherhood can be lonely. And I feel like at this point, Crystal and I also want to selfishly use this as a therapy session, but also for our listeners who also are entering that new phase of life. You know, Crystal and I are newlyweds, but we're looking forward into the next step. And, you know, I've been very vocal that we're not trying, but we're not preventing at the same time. So when it comes to maintaining that relationship with your partner after having children, how do you do that? Yeah, talk to us

about the intimacy. Just laughter. Okay. Should I want some of the next question? Wait, let's start here. Let's start during pregnancy, intimacy. Is it true you're hornyer while you're pregnant? It varies person to person.

Okay. It definitely varies. My first pregnancy with Emerson, my daughter, Tanner was totally weirded out. He didn't. really want to get intimate at all. He was kind of freaked out. But my pregnancy was Brooke. He was so attracted to me. He would not leave me alone. Wow. I think it just depends. I was totally strange. It caught me completely off guard. But you do kind of have to, he needs to respect you when you don't feel in the mood and you, it's an absolute no. But also,

like, you have to respect your husband and your marriage as well, you know. So it's, it's a There is a balance. But with newborns and young kids, it's kind of, that's where Carly and I are. It's such a survival phase. And so you do have to kind of communicate that to your partner. Like, if you're not in the mood because you literally have a baby on you 24-7, they kind of have to understand that and that if you, like, can learn to be intimate in other ways. I mean, we're still intimate.

We still have sex, but there are other ways that maybe you, have to like strengthen your relationship in other areas until you can have like that time like I know people who have kids that are like six seven eight and they finally on this new phase and their marriage has been never been never been better sexually but this stage is hard hard yeah so like what like what are some things that you know I say it as if I'm pregnant right now I'm not but I keep joking you guys that I am who knows you know talk to me in a couple of weeks but You know, seriously, though, what are some things? What advice could you get to listeners, maybe, who are struggling with finding that level of intimacy with their partners since they have had children?

And it doesn't have to be sexual. You mentioned that. What are some things that work for you guys? Oh, gosh. I mean, Evan and I go to therapy, like, every two weeks, and we've never been closer. Like, I feel, I feel like there's a lot of things in relationships that sometimes you just, you don't talk about. and that distance you in certain ways and we started doing therapy like,

I don't know, six months ago or something. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I know so much about you now that I never would have known if we hadn't been sitting in this room. So I'm a very, I'm pro therapy. I think it works wonders. And I think date nights are so important

and they're so hard to, especially where Jade is right now when she has a newborn and a toddler, like it's so hard to be like, let's go for a date night because who's going to stay with the newborn? You know, like right now I can be like, hey, mom, take care of the toddler and I can still go travel with my baby in my stomach.

But date nights are really important, too. Just having that one-on-one time and I don't know, just having conversation away from social media and TV and all that is just so important to reconnect. that's really good advice thank you you know chris and i have done we've both been on focusing this period of our lives really since we got back like the day we got back from our wedding where we just decided hey we want to become parents but you know what brought us together was growing up without our without our dads and coming from these broken families and while we realized that did bring us

together it actually instilled within us a lot of triggers and patterns that we identified that hey, before we become parents, we need to really hash this stuff out personally as well as in our relationship before, you know, we move on any further in this progression because we don't want to be passing down these unconscious, unconscious ways of how we react and respond to people. Totally. And, you know, I'm doing a, I'm reading this book right now called It Didn't Begin with You and it's all about talking about family trauma and how it's literally passed down through the egg and the sperm before conception.

Like, that goes into three generations. And it is the most fascinating book, but it's saying that you can actually carry on these, genetically, these patterns from deceased family members who lived with secrets and shame and didn't resolve what they needed to resolve in that lifetime. And you literally pass it on.

They call it fate. And this is all scientifically documented. It's really fascinating. I would highly recommend it. and we'll post a link on the podcast for all the listeners to check it out. I'm already there. I'm like on my app. Yeah, girl, I got you, girls.

I got you. And I'm realizing like, oh my gosh, like how I've been like short and reactive. It's because I didn't feel safe as a child and because, you know, my mom didn't feel safe as a child and her mom didn't feel safe as a child. And you give yourself so much love and compassion. And so doing that work on myself and Chris doing it and then having the communication, the dialogue to come together. to communicate it has a lot of so much compassion for one another and to draw so much more intimacy in our relationship just on like an energetic level where we're just like, whoa, we have compassion for each other. It's awesome. Crystal, I think you and I are soul sisters or something. Yes. I tell Tanner

all the time that I know that my journey is to be the chain breaker of my family. Yes. Oh my God, chills. And the best, I really commend you because I think the best thing that you can do for your children is to heal yourself. Yeah. Totally. Oh, yeah. Yes. Oh, so good. Jane and Crystal, I just want to thank you guys for giving us another topic for our next podcast.

Okay. Yeah. I can write that down. I got it. I'll text you at the book. Okay. So I have a question. What do you hope your children say about you as a mother?

You know, honestly, like, so. my mom is like everybody who meets my mom says that she's like the world's greatest woman and she is there she's like an angel sent from heaven and i fell that way about her and i felt also that way about my grandmother her mother so i just i would love for bella to feel like that about me that i mean because my mom is the person that like i mean i love Bella the most. But my mom is like, you know, the person that I idolize, I think that she's just thought. She's just the best. So I, Jay's going to say something like really deep, but I just want Bella to be like, there is no better human than my mom. That's the best, though, Carly.

What about you, Jay? No, Carly, mine's probably not deep because I'm getting like too emotional. I won't even be able to get words out. I love that about you, though. I just hope that both my children and, like, my son Brooks as well, that they just feel like, like you said, Crystal, you didn't feel safe as a child. I hope I am a safe space. And I hope they feel like they can be 100% who they are meant to be without feeling judged. You guys are fantastic.

There's so many questions that Crystal and I want to ask you, but we can't. keep you here all day because you have children to tend to. Unlike Crystal and I. Oh, yeah. Oh, those people. Yeah. Oh, them. But both of you have some, you know, Jade, you recently just have a new addition to your family. And Carly, yours is right around the corner coming up. But, Jay, how is Emmy handling the new addition to the family? Brooks. Let me not act like he doesn't have a name. Brooks. She is killing the Big Sister Dame. She loves. He loves him so much. She's so good with him.

I was definitely worried she was going to be jealous, and she has transitioned so well. There are moments where she wants me to pick her up when I'm holding him, and she'll freak out. But she smiles at him. She kisses his head. She's very sweet with him. She tries to console him if he's crying. She goes, it's okay, baby. She calls him Baby Brooks.

She's doing so good. She's such a nurturer, so it's just one of the best feelings to work. watch them together. It's amazing. Did she really step up and evolve as like a big sister once Brooks arrived? She, like, I swear to God, grew up overnight. Like, she is like a little girl now and it's just, it's so crazy, but it's so beautiful and it's the coolest thing. Oh, God, so cute.

Carly, is Bella ready for a baby brother? Oh, gosh. I mean, Bella loves to boss people around, so she's definitely ready for somebody to boss around um but she's obsessed with her baby dolls her favorite thing is like walking her baby dolls and fixing their boo-boos and giving them milk and like she and it's her favorite thing seriously and we hung out with um my brother's kid the other day a couple weeks ago that was he's like three months old and when he would cry she'd go and bring him a pasty or bring him milk and you can tell that she's like really compassionate and interested and like trying to help.

And so I was like, I was really worried, like, what is Bella going to be like? But I think she's going to be like Emmy. I think she's going to like be the helper and the kisser of the boo-boos. And like as much as I think later in life, she's probably going to be like, go do this for me right now. Like, I think right now she's going to be, I think she's going to be a great big sister. I think I honestly think that's a baby girl trait because I got two little nephews and my old nephew did not handle the addition of the second one that well. He reverted back to Goo Goo Gaga like he's not five years old. So I feel like that's like girl power. The women just handle it

better even at the age of two, three. Yeah, we're innate nurturers. We just get it. Well, best of luck, Carly, to you on your delivery. I mean, you and Jade share so much. Hopefully you don't share the birth. No, I'm not going to have my baby in a closet. Never seen ever, Carly. Close all those doors one week leading up to the birth. But no, you guys, we truly do wish you the best of luck in your delivery. And we do want to play a little game with you guys since Carly, your baby number two is right around the corner on the way.

We want to find out, well, can you tell us what the name of the baby is? We don't know yet. Because we're struggling. Okay, I thought I try. Just, I thought I try. Yeah. Have a few names and when you meet the baby, then you'll know. I know.

Last time we named Bella before she came out. And I think this time we're just going to wait because Evan just doesn't, he's not like feeling a name and I'm not feeling a name. So we're kind of, I don't know. I don't know if that's bad or good. I don't know. I think it's good. I think it's good too because you're going to have a story to tell.

You're going to say, oh, and this is how he came up with your name, you know, because we were kind of stuck. and we weren't filling it and we saw you or whatever. Whatever your story will be. We can't wait for you to come on the podcast and tell it. But in the meantime, we thought that we'd play a fun game with you. Okay, we have this game. It's Celebrity Baby Name Game Bachelor Edition.

Of course, of course. Oh, my God. That's what we do on Bachelor Happy Hour. So, put your cell phones away. Yes, there you go, Crystal. Put them away. Rule number one. Rule number two, this is how this game is going to work.

We are going to give you the names of children. Oh, God. The children of the bachelor couples or bachelor leads, contestants. And we're going to name the children and then you have to name that bachelor lead contestant. Okay. Five seconds. So we will know if you're Googling as Crystal pointed out. Thank you, Crystal, for that.

Put the phones away. I'm ready. I'm ready. And we cannot help you. Listen, there's no lifeline. We cannot help you because we don't know the answers to all this. I don't know them either. Oh, gosh. Okay.

All right. Question number one. we're going to name the baby and you're going to have five seconds to reply the mom and dad from Bachelor Nation. All right. Oh my God. Ready? Yeah.

All right. Baby number one. Max and Blakesley. Krista Sutter and Ryan Sutter. Ding, ding. Yay for Jade. Okay, here we go. Question number two.

Poppy. Holly Julian. Oh, wow. Who set that? Jay is the only one who's going to be answering it. All right, I got it. Ty and Riley. Ali's got a dockey and whatever his name is Mano.

Nope, that is close. Would you like to try again, Carly? No, I have no idea. From now on, I want you to answer these questions. I am Jade, and the answer is this. I can tell. It's not going to be neat. Oh, God.

Okay, the answer to that was Molly and Jason Mesnick. Oh, thank. But I know why you gave the answer that you did. So let's try again. Molly and Riley. That's Ali, Fadadowski. What's her husband's name? Something Mano.

Kevin. Yeah. Kevin. Yeah, wow, you're good. She's really good at that. How about Lila? Oh, I don't know, but that's a cute name. I don't know, and I don't know.

We don't either. That is the baby of Peyton and Chris Lantin. Peyton was on Andy Baldwin's season and Chris was Allie's runner up. I don't know who they are. I don't know either. Dang it. Okay. Ford and Essex.

Oh, that's Ashley Rosenbaum. and J.P. Rosembaum. Yes. Nicely done. Side note, I just happened to be walking my dog a couple of days ago and ran into them at the park here in L.A. And we both live in Miami.

I had to come off to win, L.A. I know. It's so weird. I recognize the children first. See? Instagram. People do that. Oh, my gosh. It's so funny. All right. How about this one? Bella and Harrison. I don't know.

I guess I can't name my boy Harrison, though. so yeah i don't know that would be weird come on carly you got to get one god i don't have no idea i need to follow more people obviously i'm like slacking it's you bitch yeah and harrison we named your baby for you yeah we named your baby harrison i thought there was another bella i was like oh well i guess i can't name someone harrison carly you are terrible at this game. This is true third trimester mom brain. I'm just going to blame it on that.

Okay, here's an easy one. Samuel, Isaiah, and a bun in the oven. I'll let Charlie take up. Sean and Catherine Lowe. That's the one I can get. Ding, ding, ding. All right. Here's an easy one, Alessie.

Do you want to answer this from, Carley? Well, I mean, Lauren and R. Lion Dike. Yeah. I know too. All right. Last one. Jennings, Tyler,

wait, Jennings Tyler, Gibson Kyle and Gatlin Avery. Emily Maynard. You know what? You guys are a package deal. Thank God for Jade,

because. I know. Jade is always going to be the back there for me giving me the answer to life. Let me tell you something. If Jade wasn't here, we would have just had dead air.

Just come. Sorry about this game, guys. I failed miserably. Carly and Jade, thank you guys so much for coming on. We do have one quick question before we wrap you up, though. What are the kids being for Halloween? Do you have a costume yet, Carly? I ordered something.

I'm not quite sure it's going to happen, but this is so weird. This is obsessive garden gnomes right now. I don't know why That's so funny Please make her one Well I think we're gonna I think she and I'm trying to talk Evan into it are going to be garden gnome

That's so cute And you can make Bella a little flower For the garden Oh my gosh That's cute And then baby Harrison You know you Harrison yeah

You gotta dress the bump Yeah you do I know A pile of dirt I know With a smiley face gnomes my gosh that's so funny and you said that with all the seriousness in your voice like you're so used to her being into gnomes okay it's so bizarre jade what about you are you going to dress

up uh i know i saw you dress up emmy as princess bell oh yeah was so precious and i go ahead and i have to say it was actually on netflix or on amazon video currently searching for a disney movie title when that came up on instagram Instagram. So I was strictly relating on the Disney princess mode with you. Cute. Well, Emerson's just at the age where she'd love all the like Disney movies and she loved getting dressed up. So it was so much fun for me to dress up like Bell with her. It was like it was like mommy dreams come through. For Halloween, we're all like all four of us are dressing up as Elvis. So. Oh my God. So cute. Yeah.

really creative. Thank you ladies so much for joining us on the podcast. It was an absolute pleasure. You have to come back again. Oh, yeah. Thank you guys so much. Oh, it's so great chatting with you and best of luck on the delivery, Carly. We can't wait to see how you're going to outdo Jade. Oh, God. Oh, dear. All right, you guys, now we have a new segment that we want to introduce on Bachelor Happy Hour. It is called Rosenthorn. Of course, it is appropriately named. So the way this is going to work, is each one of us, Crystal, you and me, we're going to give our rose of the week, and then we're going to give our Thorn of the week.

And would you like the honors? We'll start on a high note. Let's go on a high. Yeah, I'm going to go with my, first I want to say, I love it. Rose and Thorns is so cute and so wildly appropriate. And I'm going to say that, you know, my rose for the week, my highlight of the week would be my amazing husband taking me, whisky me away to beautiful Cabo San Lucas through my birthday.

And we just spent all day drinking margaritas, playing in the pool like children. It was absolutely honoring my inner child and exactly what I needed. I love that. Yeah, it was really, it was really great. And I will say that going leaving there was my thorn of the week. And that was when I was at the kiosk checking out. And this guy came up to me and he was like, are you done with your kiosk? And I was like, oh yeah, go ahead. I just finished. And he goes, thanks for moving your stuff. Asshole.

and my stuff was right next to me in no way near where he was and I heard what he said but I'm gonna give the guy the benefit of the doubt maybe he just had a bad was having a bad day well my husband unfortunately does not feel the same way

compassionately and people and there was practically a fight at the Cabo Airport between this guy and my husband and you know what I go they started literally arguing so loud and it started getting really heated and I just go

babe ignore him he's clearly having a bad day and I'm gonna tell you that guy immediately diffused really immediately diffused had not a single word to say his kiosk broke right in front of it right then right karma

and that's what it was and I wanted to say it just gave me this thing where how quickly are we so this is my thorn turned into the transforming into the rose the second rose of the week how quickly are we to you know judge other people's and when we're having a bad day we just almost justify lashing out of just others because we're having a bad day right but actually you realize everyone you're around

you're impacting with that energy and whatever you're bringing and as soon as someone can just show up and give you compassion and understanding as to hey maybe you're going through some tough stuff and i can see that i wish we could all have moments like that and i wish i could also be more compassionate at all times so to recognize that you guys if you're listening right now everybody snap their fingers for what Crystal just did because this is one, this is why I see why you and Chris are such a good balance because in that scenario, I am

Chris and Brian is you. You gotta have one and both. Yeah, no, but it's beautiful because you can help him see certain things and then vice versa and I love hearing that. Also, welcome back to America. Yeah, I was like, there is no way we're getting in a fight thrown in Mexico

jail. I'm going to take the ego pit right here. Jeez, like that got thrown in your Yeah, oh, and we got upgraded to first class for free. So I'm just saying right after that situation. Yeah, karma's a beautiful thing. All right, my rose is not as beautiful as yours. Happy belated birthday, by the way.

Thank you. My rose is, I don't know if you guys have seen the movie The Joker. Not that that's a, we'll put a smile on your face, but the acting is impeccable in that movie. Heath Ledger. No, no, no, no. With Joe, as you say, Joe Kim? Joe Quinn? You know who I'm talking about.

Phoenix. Phoenix. Phoenix. I mean, Oscar worthy. It was phenomenal. I loved every minute of it. You empathize with it. You feel every single emotion in that movie. It was so, so good. I had no idea what to expect and coming out of it. It's just a movie that I recommend. And I'm not a big moviegoer. So that's definitely my rose of the week. Let us know what you think about the movie, too. That's a new movie. Yeah. Yeah. It just came out last week. Or two weeks ago. Okay. I'm going to take your recommendation.

Yeah, yeah, you should tell me what you think. I'm going to watch that. My Thorn of the Week, I think it's a bit obvious. It's obviously these issues surrounding Colton Underwood. I'm not going to get into them because guess what, in a couple of weeks, who will be on the podcast so we can hash everything out there. But I think it's a very obvious thorn. Like I said, not going to go there right now. Haven't gone there yet.

But we're going to hash it out like adults. And we're going to do that on Bachelor Happy Hour. So stay tuned, you guys. It's going to be good. And we just want to thank you so much for Carlin. Charlie and Jade for joining us coming on the show, being so real and raw and just giving us all the insight to the next step when it comes to a marriage and having children. And they were so vulnerable and sharing us what it's like. Yeah, I think I'm really grateful for having them come

on the podcast because, I mean, we're taking, embarking on these new chapters in our life. And it's so great to have people that have gone through the journey to really share the highs and the lows. And I got to tell you, don't know if my kids are going to have Instagram. I don't know. But I'm prepared for Mommy-Shamey. Yeah, now you know what it is. And thank you, Crystal, so much for being here. I mean, you've been a fantastic host.

Fresh off a plane in Cabo, dealing with a hostile American, to sitting in the seat and co-hosting Bachelor Happy Hour with me. Thank you so much. And then also, Bachelor Nation, thank you guys so much for listening. Where would we be without you? We wouldn't have this podcast. So we will see you next week.

Bye, guys. And speaking of next week, you guys, we have on the podcast none other than my favorite ex, Nick Vile. He will be here in the hot seat and we will ask him all the burning questions. All right, so tune in next week, guys, for all the right reasons.

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