Bachelor Happy Hour - Jared Freid Part 2: Professional Opinionist

Episode Date: August 22, 2024

Today on Happy Hour, we are back with Jared Freid for Part 2! Now that the Hometowns ship has sailed, Joe and Serena are getting into everything else Bachelorette and more with Jared! We chat about his recent run in at a show with Theresa from the Golden Bachelor, his hottest takes on Jenn's men, and so much more! Plus, we get his predictions for what's to come as Jenn's season comes to a close! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are back with Part 2 with our favorite guest. Jared Free.

Jared Free, welcome back. It is a pleasure happy hour of part 2. I love being here with you guys. When are you guys going to come to a show? I've been asking. We should come to a show. Come to a show. I'm doing a show on the road right now

that is an hour story about going to the beach with my parents and it is the greatest pleasure to do because I see people bring their parents and they're like hitting their dad and being like he's talking about you you fucking asshole like it's like a lot of fun.

When's your next New York show? I do them all the time. I'm at the comedy cell. You just message me, Joe. Get in touch with me and we'll make it all happen. Done. I got you. Yes.

If we are not at, I give you my word that we will be at a show by, I'm going to say October because we are. We're doing a lot of traveling in the next like three and a half weeks, but we're going to make it work. Okay. Jen came. I'm down. I've had, I've had Maria was at the show recently. So I did shows in Atlantic City and Newark.

Teresa, the winner of the Golden Bachelor, came to my Newark show. and came backstage with her friend. It was her birthday. Did she message you in advance? Was she her coming? She messaged me, hey, like this long about how funny I am and how it couldn't have been nicer. And it's very funny because Gary came on Bachelor podcast and we interviewed him and he, I yell at the TV while the bachelor's going on. I make fun of the show in real time as it's happening.

And sometimes people like it, and sometimes people are like just ignore it, like, you know, that are on the show. Like, there's certain people that I can tell, like, are really cool about it. Like, I don't think I'm ever, I try not to be mean. I try to be funny. There's definitely some contestants that get offended, for sure. Right? You guys would know better than me. You're at all these influencer events, you know, clinking glasses while I'm in my shoebox apartment, you know, in my troll cave.

Yeah, you guys are all off the Hamptons and at the winter. and I'm just a disgusting animal. This is what gets me bothered. Like I watch the show. I enjoy it. I make fun of it. And then Bachelor Nation alumnus go off into their, you know, post-hunger games royalty. And I have to watch everyone clinking glasses in the Hamptons.

And I'm like, where's my invite to the Hamptons? I'm just a troll. I just sit here. The guy who's too old to watch the show. You guys just leave and become. Four or four listeners. For our listeners, this is also, for our listeners, this is also someone with a very successful Netflix special. Yeah.

He's constantly, he's constantly on tour. And the guy is, is a regular on Bachelor Happy Hour, which today is his biggest accomplishment yet. Biggest. It's all I, listen, I just made, as long as I have this hometown week, I don't need anything else in my life. And so, so I. Sorry. Go ahead. She had come on the show with.

Gary, when they made the, that he won, she won, whatever. And I guess she had sent, like, a video that, like, she really liked of mine. And the one video, Teresa liked was me, it was, like, me yelling at the, the rose ceremony. And Gary's giving out the roses. And I'm, like, looking at all the, you know, the golden bachelor contestant, like, outfits. And Teresa has her cleavid showing. And I go, and I made, like, a joke about how. Teresa wasn't fucking around tonight because she brought The Closers, and I, like, zoom in on her cleavage.

And then Gary, didn't, I don't think Gary knew who, what show he was going on. He walks into the taping, and he's like, the closers. And I had no idea what he was talking about. He's like, I've seen your video, the closures. Oh, my God. That was the funniest. Oh, my God. He was like, he, like, loved it.

And then Teresa came to my show in Newark. I got her tickets. she wrote me this really nice message and then she walks in and she's like i'm the one who sent gary the closers one i thought it was funny i'm like man you're the coolest like for you to like get on board with you know some guy calling out your titties i called her titty teresa you know like i was like and i'm joking around you know but like she's still like she's still like she's still in her 60s like i i don't think it's very respectful obviously but i yeah so someone so that that that was a and so sometimes when people like it i like love the person like i think they're great but when they

don't i when they don't like it i think that they're the least fun person ever in the history of people so there's no in between what are your thoughts on joan the next the next golden bachelorette so my listen my opinion on the bachelor is a fluid opinion it can change at any time people surprise me people star at one place and then go to another place. I thought Devin was like a huge douche. And now Devin, I think, has like played this show in the most like open and like real way. Like I think Devin's like... And you know what, let's normalize that.

The fact that I can come on this podcast with like a strong opinion about something and like that could change. Like don't sue me for it. Right. You only get what you see. And I, when I give opinion, when I, as an opinionist on the show, you know I don't sit here and like think about like all the producers probably made them say that I don't get into that I go with what I see what I watch and like I you know for Devin who came on like when you when you go to the doctor under under your job do you put opinionist for the bachelor comedian Bachelor screamer bachelor bachelor troll who doesn't get invited to the big parties in the Hamptons with all you guys clinking glasses the elite the you know the

The bourgeoisie, you know, so I'm a peasant, peasant bachelor orator. That's what I write. So, so I, so I had, where was I going with this? I had a whole, yeah, I cut you off. You were in the middle, um, were you saying, I don't mind being cut. Oh, you were saying like Devin, like, he said something. Devin in the beginning, I was like, this guy stinks. and then what you notice is like in groups he's fun

and then when he gets into like a one-on-one with Jen he's always like about them and gets personal and like that's the way you should play it like he did it right so I like Devin a lot now Joan the only thing I have about Joan is I don't buy her story so when Joan was on the show the fact that what her husband passed

I'll buy that But I get a mother turn. We'll see. I'd like a death certificate. No, she went on the show. She's the hottest, most gorgeous woman. She is literally a model. Like, let's get real.

And then talked about how she's the unseen woman. She's the old one. No one sees me. It's like, you've been beautiful your whole life, Joan. How do you feel about now watching men in their 60s? I am so excited. I'm happy you brought this up. I am so excited.

to watch men in their 60s on this show. I don't know how they're going to escape without getting just brutalized online by the audience because what boomer male doesn't have like a weird Facebook post or a history. I'm just saying they all better have dead wives. The good thing is they probably didn't have social media. I mean, they probably didn't have social media.

My dad's had social media. your dad has social media your dad is at thanksgiving serena's dad is a thanks i don't know there's and also like i actually think like the most embarrassing form of male is 60s confident man like that's our version of like 22 year old woman who's been featured on this show like 22 year old woman is like screaming and like it's a little like embarrassing for other women i think it's the same way as like guy with like paisley cuffs on his like shirt that things that thinks he looks great like there's going to be some characters and I'm like excited about that why I like Joan why I think Jones a good choice because I think of I think of the movie

vacation with Chevy Chase and and Christy Brinkley's driving the convertible or whatever it is but that was that era's hot woman like the blonde like that like I feel like all these guys at one point this this was their look like they're going to worship Joan. There's no question about that. These guys are going to come on this show and again, like the world is not as wide to our parents who are in

that generation. So I think it's going to be as we saw with the Golden Bachelor, these women came on and they like found these new friends that they never thought they would make and I think the men will have that same experience. It's like wide-eyed like oh my God, like when my parents get

100 likes on Facebook, they're like should I move to Hollywood? Like should I, like, change my life and, and join Joe and Serena in the Hamptons at a, at a influencer party? Like, like, and I'm... And I will say we met Joan at the Golden Bachelor finale party at the mansion. And she does have, like, the most warm, bubbly, upbeat personality that I feel like we didn't see. And I will also say we've seen some of the photos of the cast that she's going to have. the guys are like stellar looking.

I have no doubt that she's a fun person. I have no doubt that she will be great. And they're hometowns. I mean, like the embarrassed children, the, I love it all, you know. Same. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the

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All right, let's dive into Jen season. So let's just go back. Have you guys liked it? What do you think? What do you think of Jen's season? I'm actually like the season a lot. Sure, Jared. Just jump in and take over the interview.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know. There's been many episodes this season that I find I found very enjoyable. Go ahead, Serena. No, you know, I feel there's a lot of tension between you two. So I understand of it. There's no.

Honestly, no, I actually love it. It's fun. Joe knows all the people that hate me. in bachelor's holding back on these names. I feel like Jen's done a great job, but I also feel like the start of the show has been the drama with the guys this season. It's just been constant and unique

to some of the drama we've seen in the past few seasons, which always keeps it interesting. The CMM... Go ahead, I'm sorry. There was, well, I mean, yeah, because you're asking me questions, so... Yeah, I'm the host now, yeah. There was one episode this season that

I was like, this was one of the better episodes I've ever watched of the show. And it was the one where Sam M, they were gliding down the building. It was that full episode where I was like, this was so chaotic and so crazy. The entire episode from like beginning to end where I was like, because that I think was like the Sam End drama. Oh no, was that the Sam N drama? Yeah, he was also still there. Sam M had his one-on-one day where he like made her cry basically.

and then the ex-boyfriend showed up. That was a really good episode for sure. It has had the cringiest moments I can remember from this show this season. Like, it has been a high cringe factor. Sam N. asking her to kiss him in the leather jacket and his cool guy, leather jacket. The ex-boyfriend who very obviously was friend zoned particularly hard and then came on the show and like gave a three of a personality

like this guy like and then the Sam M just being like the Aaron Rogers of this show like basically thinking he's smarter than everyone else and he's going to pull a fast one with a couple of you know you know

Morgan Whalen lyrics that he reads off of a page like you know it is like it's it's been a pretty wow season and then to get to this part with the hometowns with these four guys they like seem to really like each other like it

seems like these guys were like boys and you know you wonder like it seems like they really didn't like the people that were like kind of like sent home well there was definitely there was definitely two there was definitely two crews of guys

who and they just did not get along what I want to talk about scenes N when he went on stage and told her that he loved her. Right. But first, what are your thoughts on Brett, the guy that got sent home night one? Because a lot of people were like, why did you say him home? Yeah, yeah.

Big guy Brett, I mean. Grocery store Joe 2.0. Right. Does he, is he you in another era? Like, does he get like this bump? Does, you know, like, I don't know, you know, or. They announced Paradise. So I'm assuming if he's still single, he's going on Paradise.

Yeah, I used to remember there's going to be a whole other season of the BAPTC and the Bachelorette before the Paradise happens. Like, I mean, look, I love Brett and I'm rooting for him and I hope they ask him to be on Paradise. But it just gets harder and harder when there's more of a large pool of contestants for them to choose us from. And people, you know, like people forget so easily. Like the reality of it is like in a year, there's going to be other night one people. I'm not going to put down Brett. It's just a reality of the situation. They didn't forget me, though.

They didn't forget me. I came out like, that's true. Came in swinging. That's true. I will say big guy Brett, he, the beauty he has is that he's instantly, he's one of one.

So if he does, I think you're right, Serena, like it's a long time from now for him to come back. But if they're like, it's the big guy and we've never had a big guy before.

And then he does, you know, like everyone's going to go, yes, and be instantly charmed and push for him. He also, what I enjoyed about big guy Brett

is that he's a big guy who can move, which I think is like the most important thing. He did a full split. I think we need to like acknowledge. He's athletic for sure. That's what I'm saying. He looks like an athlete. He's definitely a defensive end type

body could have been maybe like a left tackle that used to play tight end. Like you know this is and I like a guy who's big and can move like that. And that's what really for me i was like because i'm a i'm like a shaped like a clean x box and i can't move so like i i have genuine envy for a guy like that who wears it well so i was upset he was gone but like

listen this is step one to getting more clean o kinex boxed men onto this show this is you know now that the clean ox now that the clean x box shape has been you know barrier has been broken making Maybe there's more room for people like me. I'd be curious to see him on Paradise, too, because we interviewed him. Oh, really? Which, for those listening, if you have it, listen, go listen. And he is so normal to the point where he would stand out because he's like, if we saw him on this show for a long time, it's like, I feel like you have to have a little crazy in you to be on this show. Like, whatever that means.

He's like such a grassroots dude. Is that the phrase? grassroots. Sure. I mean, I'll allow it. I mean, I like it. Sure. Yeah. Okay. His mom commented on my TikTok. But see that's yeah. But see that's my that might be what he has going against them because four and against like the first the first grocery store Joe is also a little crazy. Like I went like people like you're nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're in Vegas and you know saying. I'm up. You got like three careers before you went on The Bachelor.

One was in the trade, and one was selling produce, like the most different jobs you could have. You're the original trader Joe. You know, I still can't believe I never got, out of all the brand deals, I never got a Trader Joe brand deal. And I was,

or any sort of grocery store. I was an ex. My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, bio for The Bachelor was ex-trader turned grocery store owner. My fucking name is Joe. Like, Trader Joe. There was people that thought I was Trader Joe.

Right. We're going to see. I can't wait for like 10 years from now. We're going to walk, you know, we'll be walking around New York City and I'll see a guy with a huge beard and I'll be like, is that grocery Joe? And it's just going to be Joe screaming, I was Trader

Joe! Just screaming in a building at Trader Joe's just standing out of it going That's what I had me. I do. I walk around New York and I look. I'm like, okay, this could be a good sidewalk for me in 10 years to This is the one. Freak out. All right. Let's, okay.

Yeah, Sam, Sam N. Do you remember when he was on stage and confessed his love for her like week? Yes. I want to say like week three. What were your thoughts on that one? He's, he gave very joy. Jordan Peterson vibes. He gave very like hustle bro culture vibes from minute one. He gave very like I listen to Rogan and quote Joe Rogan.

He gave very alpha male podcast listener vibes to me. Yeah, when you put on a leather jacket to be cool guy, Sam, like you're a big fucking loser to me. And then I found out that he has like 200,000 TikTok followers. And it's like, man. Well, did you watch his TikToks? Because his TikTok persona is quite different. It's much different than... What is it?

I don't think... Well, what is his persona? There's definitely some TikToks in the leather jacket. It's a lot of like getting at a nice car. A lot of like skits. I would say that's a good word for it. To me, this season really outed TikTok as a creativity, a barren creativity zone. Because to me, Sam N is painting inside the lines.

I saw it was POV. It was all him copying things that have done well for other people. So the guy doesn't have a creative bone in his body. All he does is find other people's things that have done well and trended. And then he redos them in Persian. That's what he does. So, and then he goes on hashtag Persian. You really don't like this guy.

You don't like this guy. I don't like this brand. I don't like, I don't like, because then Jen's, ex-boyfriends trying to make a TikTok career for himself and he's a total done. I didn't realize that when we recapped, we like recapped the whole thing about Jen's ex not knowing that he is like a TikToker. I had no idea. He's trying to be dog dad from Boston TikToker.

And it's like as someone who like puts themselves out there and like, you know, like I'm on TikTok, I know what works. I know what doesn't work. But I do, you know, when I, if you don't, if you do the same thing every day on TikTok, you will be fine. That's the whole game. It's like just do the same hashtag every day. And so what people, what you see is,

and from I'm now Trader Joe yelling from a street corner because I sound like a hater. Like, because some people do it well and they do the same thing every day well, but mostly it's people just redoing things they've saw and jokes that they've seen work. So it is a little frustrating from the point of view of comedian who's like, yeah, I yell at charcutory one.

day. I yell at The Bachelor one day. I put up my stand-up. I have a special 37-and-s single. It's on Netflix right now. You know, like, when you're trying to, like, promote yourself, and then you see, like, Sam N has 200,000 followers for him being, like, P-O-V, a guy in a jacket walks up to you, and it's hard guy music. Like, get the fuck out of here. How do you feel about my social media persona? Because I don't... Listen, I watch everything you do. I love a big Grocery Joe fan. I watch every influencer party. I watch you in the Hapton's. I watch you playing golf

at the win. I watch you. I just pull. I don't really try to do anything. I just kind of post what I'm doing sometimes. And it doesn't really work. My social media approach actually doesn't, it just doesn't.

It's the opposite of curated. It's like we'll be drinking a coffee and Joe, all of a sudden it's a reel on Instagram. Yes, I've seen these from Joe. I kind of like that Joe is like an analog and a digital world like that's what i like because i know you a little bit so like from this show i know that like you're doing like what the golden bachelor dads will be doing like you're closer to them

so it is it is honest that's a thing like i don't really like i don't really have that vibe from you like you know so you so you would prefer my type of content opposed to sam ends type of kind Well, yours is honest. Yours is like not like churning. You know, like I, I don't know. Like I go home and write bits to go try on stage and bomb in front of people. I embarrass myself on a nightly basis. When you start doing like POV, a guy with a rose because you saw it work another time.

Like I kind of go eye roll. You didn't really put yourself out there. You know, I don't know. Closer to the goal. You're closer to what the gold advantage. guys are doing it. Yeah, that's, that's funny. I'm Jamil Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts,

Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political

lives, and that's been part of the challenge, but we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents to stand up for your constituents and there's life after congress and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the house of representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen

This Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane. Think you could do it?

It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this until this. Pull that, turn this. It's just... I can do it my ice close. I'm Mani. I'm Noah. This is Devin.

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I'm looking at this thing. See? Listen to No Such Thing on the. iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What are your thoughts on Devin versus Sam N. M. Sam M. Sam M versus Devin, basically all season. I loved watching it. Like, I thought the dynamic was fun.

Like, it was like, and it's also like, here's a thing. Like, when you watch The Bachelorette, it is and i'm sure serena for you watching the bachelor like you see like you can see yourself in the women like i can see myself in the men that's how i know that what sam n is doing sam n with the leather jacket i know what he's doing is from a place of false confidence and insecurity like i have insecurity but it's very male insecurity sam m is a guy i've met before he doesn't speak but talks all the time he says nothing it's all like lines where he's like and he thinks he's smarter than everyone he's around and what i liked about devon is he's been right the whole season devon was like

this guy says nothing he's going to talk himself off of this show i'm just waiting for it to happen and then he was proven completely right like you know and that's because the best talkers are usually the best listeners and you could tell devon listened to this guy and was like, nah, uh, like, and again, I wasn't cheering for Devin on night one. I was like, this guy, this guy stinks. No, no, no. And now he's great. I like him. Yeah, Devin, yeah, Devin, I like, I like them from the beginning because I thought the ice cream

pull was like, it wasn't a bad move. And he got so much fucking. It was just a, it was a bold move and it was early to pull the move. If he pulled that in week four, it was. would have gone a lot less it would have stirred the pot a lot less i think people were just like whoa dude we just got here well it's something that's relevant to this and i agree but like he had to do it the week he did it to to stay around because i think devon looks around and it's like i'm the softest body here like devon was like look at all these guys there's six foot whatever and i'm like

not the best you know he knows i he even says i'm a talker i i'm always talking so he's like how do I play to my strength. I got to talk to her. And the theme of like the hometowns, which was so interesting to me and it was all the women telling the men, like all the moms and the sisters telling the men, you got to go for it. If you want her, you have to like let her know and you have to like you have to really put yourself out there. And you saw like these men and a lot of men have this problem, myself included, of like, well, if I put myself out there, I'll be embarrassed. I'll, what if I, what if this isn't the life I want? What if I'm, what if I fail? What if I, you know, and a lot of men like hold back on that, but women want, you're mine. I love you.

I'm into you. Be mine. I'm the one trying. And it is, Devin kind of did that as early as you could in the most classy way. Yeah, but I thought Sam M also did that. I thought Sam M. I was fake. I was actually shot, yeah, but I was shocked. But I thought Jen was buying it. I thought Jen was into it.

Well, she was into him sexually, obviously. Like, I mean, two episodes ago, before the hometown, the one where he's at I Heart Radio, he's literally saying every wrong thing. And she goes back to him three different times being like, please just say something else so that I don't look like a loser for keeping you to hometowns. Because there's a point

where she goes back to like ask him for like to talk to her like a normal person and he's still doing like, you know, robot, Sam, M. Like it looked like it malfunctioned. Like the main thing, the main thing, main thing, the main thing. I know. Furious love, furious love.

He just kept trying different lines. Yeah, it's true. That's exactly what happened. It was like, it just fell apart. It just fell apart. And it was just like malfunctioning, computing, computing, Luke Bryan lyric, please, someone give me lyric from the notebook, you know, like, it just was like very apparent that he that he wanted to win The Bachelorette and he didn't want to win Jen.

Like that was the end story of that. And even so, Jen persisted, like as the great Ruth Bader Ginsburg once said, even so. I don't know if she's I was like what quote are you about to drop right now Jen literally looks at him and is like just say something else and you're at a point with Jen

where I'm like what poem could he ever say like what could he say right now that would make you change your mind like you would look ridiculous like give it up but that's how much the physical attraction

yeah was pulling her in which listen we've all dealt with that We've all dated the wrong person who felt right. That's my poem. She even gives him a chance after the radio date. He gets another chance. She does radio date one-on-one chat, nighttime cocktail one-on-one chat where he's like, I love you.

And she's like, I don't know about that. And then she pulls him before the rose ceremony, like in his room and is like one more try. And he's like, I have nothing for you. And still love you so much. And she's like, go off. I just want to, like, whisper in his ear at one point and be like, I'm trying to get you to fantasy suites. Come on.

Come on. Make the real thing, the real thing. Or the man. Make the man thing, the main thing. What are your, so what are your thoughts on the other two guys that end up going home? Spencer, who we don't really see a lot of. And then Grant, who, Grant, I feel like we saw more, more of Grant. Yeah.

So Spencer, well, Grant, I felt bad for it because it did feel like he really fell for. Yeah. Yeah. Jen. But I obviously, she didn't see a connection because the minute someone, like, falls for you like that, it's like time to go, buddy. Like, like, because it could get awkward. Like, now you're just leading them on. And I think, like, that's the sweet spot of this show is like, hey, I'm into you.

And the other person doesn't feel it. They have, like, an out to, like, send you packing. And it's like the least awkward breakup of the awkward breakup. So like that's kind of what happened to Grant is like if he had kept it in, I'm sure maybe it would have been made. It could have been different. But he like spilled his guts and that's what happens sometimes and win some lose some. Spencer did the most calling your mom.

Call your mom. Oh, Spencer. On the phone to your mom to try and like win at the heartstrings of the Bachelor audience is like, I'm like, dude, I think you need. need to like disappear to a cave in the woods for like a few years to like get or because that was like you can't be a dog photographer crying on the phone to your mom about how you're never going to find love like it's just like it was so much and like I like Spencer I think he's like he seems like a good guy like he does seem like he's had like some really strong moments this

season but he has the look of a guy who calls his mom to help him pick out clothes for work the next day like he has the look of like you know the guy from um like he just has this look of like guy from college right guy from college who got married right away to his college girlfriend and moved off to like a suburb outside of raleigh and never had an opinion again like it just like and to see him call the mom I was like it just like it because it couldn't have been real like it's just it's a little bit much yeah it was one of those things yeah i was gonna say serena from your perspective what do you think about that it wasn't that i had an issue with like him calling his mom it was just something we've never seen happen on the show like they like he obviously

got access to a phone to call his mom it's rare we ever see anyone like i say to joe all the time of the podcast like the minute i see a contestant with a phone it's always jarring to me because right just you never see it so the minute i see him with the phone i'm like what is going on, I just didn't want that for him. I just didn't want that to be his last moment. Like, let's get him off camera and then hand on the phone. Like, I don't need to see this moment between him and his mom. I don't think he needs people to see it either.

I agree. And that's the moment you're given to like make your pitch, so to speak. Like, we see this all the time. And some pitches are more honest than others. This was a dishonest pitch to me. Like, I agree with you, Serena. When I see the phone, I'm like, what happened here? Someone either asked for a phone or gave him a phone, but that was like producer him combo of some sort.

I don't know what percentage it was because like even Aaron when he has the phone and it's like the army calling him, which I don't believe at all. Like the idea that he's top gun and like the U.S. Army's begging him, we need you, son. You got to go save our country. And then he goes online and puts on Instagram Like, see, I wasn't lying. It's like, dude, you found him out. I don't think he was lying. I really don't.

You think that was disingenuous? You just don't think it was severe of a... I don't think the American government was like, get me through to Aaron Noah's brother. We need a pilot. You know, like, I don't think that's what happened. You know, like, it's just I-I-roll. I when I think a Spencer calling his mom I think and this is not the same thing at all but I just want to bring this up real quick and we'll move on but like the greatest reality moment I think of all time is when the first guy that won who wants to be a millionaire and he used his lifeline and he used his lifeline and he's like he's gonna use this he's finally used it his lifeline and he called his dad he's like just to let you know I just want who wants to be a millionaire I mean it was awesome it was awesome it was

Serena this is what I love coming on this podcast No I got goosebumps right now See Joe and I are the same age So like I We have the same core memories Like I don't even know if Serena knows What the fuck you're talking about

She's like who's Regis Philbin But I But I will say it's from social media Whenever you come on this podcast Jared like I'm picking up on like maybe 15% of the references made And I'm just gonna I just accept that in advance You know like I'm not about to ask

For a description every single time. Joe just told that story with like I was like we literally lived the same life. Like you guys were there. You were in the audience when that happened. Like I definitely have seen like reruns for sure. I'm familiar but no my heart

is not connected to that moment the same way here is this. Well how about China? I saw that on I love the 2000s on VH1 once. How about how about China American Idol? You ever see that where the kid? Oh my God. No, it's not American Idol Joe.

It's America's Got Talent. Erica's got talent the little Chinese kid And he comes on and he sings Whitney Houston Exactly like Whitney Houston That I don't remember I chose with this video He pulls it up on YouTube like three times a year I'll send it to you

He's like it's amazing I can't but he sounds exactly like Whitney Okay back on track back on track Sorry sorry I took us I took us off I'm happy you took us on that memory lane That was fun Jared let red, let our listeners know

what you got coming up and where they could find you. Can you guys just follow me on Instagram at Jared Freed and watch my live screen? If you're listening to The Bachelor Happy Hour, you should be watching my live scream. I feel like an asshole.

And then sometimes people watch it and they don't follow. And then I have to see the frustrating part is that it'll and then I'll go to their account because I'm a loser. And I'll see follows Joe and Serena. And I have to be faced with not liking you to. Like, I like you two as people.

But I have to go, what the fuck are they following them for and not me? So this is how I like to end every episode of a podcast. I'm asked to be a guest on. I insult the host of it. Yeah. So thank you. Thank you for having me. Follow me on Instagram.

I'm also on TikTok as Wizard of Ha. And I'm on the road. If you're listening now, Cleveland, Indianapolis, St. Louis. I'm all over the road. I have a great show, Dania Beach, Batavia, Illinois, going to Joe's hometown. Jaredfried.com, Jaredfreed.com. Thank you guys for having me. I always have.

Of course. I would have loved it because that's actually what I do because I'm not touring or anything like that. I'm just like, yeah, just follow me on Instagram if you like, if not, whatever. Jared, thank you. Honestly, thank you so much. Joe and a sad dad energy. I guess I got to say this. Thank you so much for coming on.

We really appreciate it. Always a blast and a pleasure. To all our listeners, make sure you stay tuned in the Bachelor Happy Hour. And like and subscribe. We have more exclusive interviews and recaps coming your way with a fantasy suite coming up, a tell-all, and lots more exciting stuff. So thanks for listening. Bye. I'm Jamel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics podcast, Spolitics.

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