Bachelor Happy Hour - Jared Freid: The Hometowns Hot Seat! | Happy Hour

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we are back for part two with Jared Freid! We pick up where we left off, diving into the ins and outs of the roast date and how Mel came to choosing Nicolle as the winner. Then, we get into this week’s Hometowns episode and all of Jared’s takes. From the daughters putting Mel in the hot seat to Debbie’s heartbreaking goodbye, there is so much for us to discuss. Plus, Jared gives us his predictions on what’s to come; what will the end of Mel's journey look like? Tune in now to hear all this and have some laughs along the way; be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here with Part 2 with Jared Free. Jared, welcome back to the podcast. Let's get into it. I don't know if you were paying attention when you were there,

but like that, that date in particular, were there any women that you were like, oh, this Mel and her makes sense. Let me just say Monica B, her stand-up was like awesome. Yeah, she was good. She was good. I couldn't believe she went home soon after.

She was the first one. She was the first one. And I remember she was composed with it. I was like she was by far the best one. Yeah, she was good. By far. By far. Everyone knew that.

Right. But she was just like a little better. Right. This is she had, it was personal. It was about being an airline attendant and, you know, like all of it was like, like I have a lot of respect. Like just like when you told me about the best man speech, like I, when you're like setting up like I got the thing about my dad first. Like there is an art. It's an art, you know?

So, um, so like we got done. This is where like I always believe that the show was like gentle nudging. And it wasn't this like conspiracy that everyone thinks that like they're telling you what to do. And I was proven right because that we get done. And Mel's like, I'm going to choose Nicole. And we're like, okay. And we're like, well, what about Monica B? Like she was the best.

He's like, I'm going to choose Nicole. And like. And we're like, okay, well, how are we going to do that? Like, and, and again, this is a dating show first. This isn't like a stand-up comedy show. Like, you can- He doesn't care who the best- He doesn't care who the best stand-up is. Right, and I have respect for that.

Like, no one wants to go on a date with someone that they're not having a connection with. So I, so, like, it was fun for me to see because, like, literally, it's Jesse, Mel, me. I had a moment, like, what the fuck am I doing here? Like, it's Jesse Mel me and, like, production. And they're like, so what do you think? Like, we're debating the date.

Oh, wait, you were in that chat? Yes. They said, Jared, get over here. Jared, get over here. We're going to discuss the date. I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like on the team. Like, I'm like one of the guys.

Like, I was like, again, the best day ever. And I'm like, and I'm like. That's so funny to me. That image is. And I'm like, what am I here? Like, do they know I'm here? And I'm, and like, literally I'm like, there was a point where they're like, Jared, what do you think?

I go, Monica B was the best. I don't know, Mel, man. Like, I'm like, trying to, like, fight for Monica B. I'm like, just go out with her. And but they had this makeout that happened, I think, fairly recently. Yeah. Nicole and him? Yeah.

Yeah. It was like the day before. Yeah. And they were, like, making out heavy in the pool. Right. So, like, with that in mind, you go, yeah, I want to see if this chick I made, out within the pool and I are like a thing. You know, like, and to me, that's respect for the show.

Like that, like to me, like, you know, if he's really seeing this out, you know, there's so many people, and you guys hear this too. They have their theories or there's, if you hate reality TV, you can, you can sound like you're smart. Like, if you don't like a show, you can make yourself sound like you're a Harvard educated, you know, person. You go, oh, well, of course the producers force you and this and forth. And I'm like, no, this was like.

like a real deal. I'm not like just being a shill for the show. I'm like, yeah, this guy wanted to go out with Nicole and he did. And I got to say on that date when I watched it afterwards, Nicole like and him like got whisked away. They go right on their date.

And she questioned him in the way we wanted him to be questioned. Like she did actually a good, I thought she was a great date. Yeah, we commended her. I was like she was totally relentless in her line of questioning and like the best way because he's not a naturally open person.

Like you needed Nicole in there. You needed to send that girl in. What are your thoughts on Nicole after like for the rest of the season? I will say I think Nicole is she's first of all, she's the most openly here for the wrong reasons person I've ever seen on TV. I mean, wild. Boy, talk about just like like like not hiding it at all. It like it almost felt like she was.

it felt like it felt like she was like oh we're all like on the same page this is right this is bullshit i'll actually give her the same empathy i gave to mel which is i think she's never really watched a dating show right i think she is like kelly rippa where like kelly rippa like seemingly has never watched a dating show and then thinks less of people on a dating show yeah um i think Nicole's probably from that world where she watches a ton of bravo but no dating shows so she think she knows reality TV but she doesn't know this version of reality TV like yeah for her right it's totally different and she thought like when she said I want to be the golden bachelorette like I want to be the next one she thought drama and screen time will get her that and it's like

that's not the key we have to cheer for you we have to want you to find love and we have to like we have to see ourselves in you yeah and people I think she didn't see I think the game she was playing was get camera time. And I think that is very, that's a tight wire act that she didn't understand. Like I mean, for her to hug and kiss everyone about how much they love them as she's getting kicked off the show and then look at the camera and go, yeah, if you want to go fuck in Miami, you can meet me because it's not going to work out with these other chicks. No, that was wild. But you know what? Nicole, she is a shameless opportunist, and I actually do like that about her.

Like, I find that characteristic interesting. Like, I find her an interesting watch because she is so shameless about her intentions and her goals. And, like, that's unique to me. Yeah, yeah. I mean, when she said that, I was like, oh, wow, she just said that. Yeah. Well, but the problem with, like, you know, I guess like she comes from this, like, never

apologize part of society that I don't really. relate to a lot where it's like if you ever apologize or if you ever come back from where you went you will you lose she's like and and you're like oh she's just out there and never coming back like she's never going to you know say like oh like when she starts like saying like well i'm the one that like you know made it so everyone else could i walk so they could run it's like get out of here but it's like she's now doubling down that and i think Like, especially when she got in the car, she was like, maybe I'll be the next golden bat's rat. Like, you're like, no, you're not.

Like, it's not going to have. Like, I think you're going to have to, like, argue with people in the comments for the rest of your life. Like, you know, one of them being Susan and Kathy who are like literally like, you know, foaming at the mouth to like, you know, talk to you about how you said you were hotter than last season. Oh, yeah. Right what she said that I said, Kathy is going to not like that. Yeah. We were like, oh, no, Kathy's going to be pissed. Let's jump to hometowns.

We'll go to the first hometown, which was Peg. Firehouse, bomb squad. Her daughter was great. What were your thoughts? Here's my thoughts. Peg looked like she was out of a Maxim magazine shoot from the early 2000s. We're at the, you know, the firehouse and she's on the pole. and she's doing, like, Peg is just, like, fun and awesome and unrelatable to me.

Like, it's like, you know, she's having a beer. She doesn't care about calories. She goes to fun gym classes. She dances at every time a song comes on. The daughter was protective in a way that, like, it was fun to watch Mel Spar with a daughter because he's a guy with two sons. So you watched him in these conversations. He had nothing.

And it's like, Mel is talking. You know, Mel thinks he's 27 forever. And Mel thinks he's young and Mel doesn't have a clock and Mel is going to work until he's 103 and you're going to go, Mel, do you really think you'll work until 103? And he's going to go, I haven't really thought of it. I guess I would be old at 103. Like, so Mel isn't sitting there being like the stakes are high and the stakes are high for Peg's daughter.

The stakes are high for Pegg. And Pegg's trying to be fun and affable to the. whole thing but like the daughter was like hey like you know she's looking to like chill with someone like she's looking to like you know like are you doing this and like Mel's reaction to that was just like it was it was as Mel as it got guess we'll see I don't know we'll see like he is so he's the least committal bachelor I've seen in a while like everything about him screams casual and non-committal to both being the bachelor and anything. post show.

I also liked when the daughter was like, tell me what you know and have learned about my mom. Like, what do you like about her? And it was just one word answers after another. You could tell the daughter was like, what is going on? Well, we were watching it. When we were watching, I was like,

bring back Clayton. Like we need a Clayton back because he was like. We need an overshare after a season of Mel. in the heat of battle your squad relies on you don't let them down unlock elite gaming tech at lenovo.com dominate every match with next level speed seamless streaming and performance that won't quit so you can push your gameplay beyond performance with intel core ultra processors for the next era of gaming upgrade to smooth high quality streaming with Intel Wi-Fi 6E and maximize game performance with enhanced overclocking Win the tech search. Power up at Lenovo.com. Lenovo, Lenovo. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric,

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We're going to have fun. I don't know what you're talking about. He doesn't strike me as manipulative. Right. I think he genuinely means what he's saying. I just wanted to say more He's just like yeah Like how do you feel?

He's like I feel good I wrote down he A quote of his was I liked being married That's his response To the woman It's like okay To the daughter of the woman

Honestly though I could see myself Kind of responding like that I know right Like I guess like I Yeah I wouldn't know how to deal With a daughter also Like I I felt for him

If anything I was like At the same time I'm like he's on a TV show like he's he's getting prepped or he's having time to prep himself. Yeah, but he was never, he was never, you know, it's also he was never on the show. Like he just became the lead. So it does make it, it is kind of like his first go around.

Right, right. You are a little bit trained by the audience. You know, the comments of the audience are trained on what not to say. So you don't have to hear from that loser anymore, you know. So like he doesn't even know that. Like, and you can see, like, he, he just didn't have the, the tools in the tool belt. Like, it was like, and, and you're dealing. And even like Peg's mom, she made a comment where she was like, it was like weirdly sad.

She's like, do you think this is going to work out? She's like, oh, no, it hasn't worked out before. Like, she had like a weird quote. Do you like, do you like him and Pegg together, though? Do you see that? I do, but Pegg, you know, to me. he'd be buying into um like peg does more for him than she does or does more for him than he does for her okay like i think peg is going to be like get you know i can see them in a wedding and

he's talking with five other guys about michigan football and she comes over to him and grabs him and goes get up we're dancing and he probably needs that more than he knows he needs that yeah so Because he thinks, no, I'm going to live until him 152. I can sit here and talk Michigan football. I got time. Well, the most comfortable I saw him was, I think it was Deb's hometown when he was throwing the football with the two brothers. Right.

That was when he was like having a conversation where he felt like he was like in his. Element. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I like Pegg. I'm like, you know, like she's a likable fun person. Yeah, what's not to like.

She's great. Yeah, and the daughter was like her, like, security guard. Yeah, I love her and I love her daughter. Okay, so then we let's go to Deb's hometown, which we see at the end of the episode. If Deb hasn't isn't the next Bachelor, Golden Bachelor, I'm surprised. I thought he was going to pick her. I really thought he was going to pick her. I thought so, too.

I mean, it's a tough hill to climb over. Deb reminds everyone that she's never been married, has no kids 14 years since she brought a guy home. Every time she's on camera. So there's a point where you're like, I don't want to devastate this person. Like if I were in Mel's shoes, I'd be like, she keeps bringing it up that like,

like I don't want to be the next person. And she tells like an amazing story, a tragic story about her ex. And it's really sad. That's not even part of it. for me like to me like she holds that with her and she you know it seems as though she like you know that's part of her I know it's part of her story but like as far as like to like dig in with her that's not really part of the story to me but she brings up 14 like 14 years never bring someone home like how about you just say it's been a while like like like you know like

how about you say like and I just think Deb she represents the audience way more than you know I'm dead I'm 40 never married. you know, you know, grocery, Joe, you're Deb, you know, like we're, you know, we're older people who have, have kind of like gone a different way. So, like, I think the audience sees and Debbie, I mean, I've been married for like four years. You guys are married? Oh, okay. Okay, a little defensive about being called a Debbie.

You're throwing me at the Deb category. Take offense to your offense. You throw me in the Deb category. I'm like, Jared, I'm sitting right here, his wife. I'm sorry, I couldn't see the ring. I mean, time to get a bigger one, Joe. I'm not wearing it. Neither of us have a lot.

No ring on? What's going on here? No visual cues. Yeah, I feel like what's interesting is if Debbie does become the Golden Bachelorette, which I could totally see because I agree. I feel like they really beat the story to death with her. I think they're going to playoff of like the strong. Never been kissed.

But it's interesting if they go in that direction because that really aligns with the stories of the regular seasons of the bachelor. And I feel like this season has. melded into the regular season more than Gary's season. So like we had Gary and Jones season, which was very focused on like the golden years. And this season feels so much more aligned with the regular season.

It's, I keep saying like it's giving just like my hot aunts, you know? Like doing, and then we're going to go someone that's never been married to has never had children. It's like, well, what really differentiates these two? This is my aunt and uncle and Gary was like,

that's my, that's my great grandfather. show I disagree I I I think she's the reason the show is successful like I I think like I there need a third bachelor they need 40 year old woman with older men like that because I do think a lot of the difference between these women like 40 year old women is not going to be substantially different do you think that's my point is like that's why Debbie like she's easy to like and you know she's the reason that like a lot of people are watching her going i you know because a lot of women and i hear from women a lot just because i do dating podcasts like a lot of them say they're old at 21 like a woman turns 21 and then all of a sudden she's the grandma and she's old forever like and it's like that's not how we see it how i see it but if you're watching debby saying i've never been married i don't have kids if you're 36 at home and you've never been marry you don't have kids you're feeling the same way as her right you know you know she's very

relatable so i i don't know if they made her the golden bachelor would all almost be in an insult to her because like to call her golden is like only the only issue because you're like i mean she's she's there's no gold in there you know like it doesn't you know so i don't know i i like debby i she comes home to the family the family is like so excited for like again this is all stuff that would scared the shit of me. I'm like, oh, this family, like, they are really... A lot of pressure. Yeah. I like this family, like the brothers are here. They're like, you know, like, you know, the sisters and they're all like, we really like you. And it's like, like, if I'm Mel, there's a good thing where like you'd be the horse, you know, night and shining

armor. Yeah. But also, don't fuck with these people, Mel. Like, like, I think that was like kind of the takeaway. You know what we thought about Debbie is, I think, it's like up in the air about Mel's interest and willingness to compromise in a relationship. I just like don't know where he stands on that. And Debbie is childless and seems like she is flexible in terms of where she could live. Oh no. You don't think so. Like it's like she's going to move to LA with me and like lean into me. I have a better. I agree with everything you're saying, but I don't think that makes Debbie the best option for him. I think that's why Cindy's like the best option for him.

I think Cindy's the best option for him to. After watching her, we'll go jump to her hometown now. But after watching that hometown, I was like, oh, yeah. Like, Mel likes what he's seeing here. Cindy, when I was at the, the taping, Cindy was, like, into him. Like, yeah. She was already, like, smitten. Oh, on the roast date.

On the roast date. Well, she was from day one. No, she was like, we actually, we didn't know if she would be able to handle the process because she was so smitten so fast. We were like, oh, no, I wonder if she's going to, like, get jealous and, like, blow up her spot. But she, she cooled down. Yeah, yeah, she's handled it well. She's also, you know, smarter than the average bear.

She, she's like a chemical engineer. She's like a biomedical engineer, yeah. Yeah, she, and, and, yeah, like, he definitely likes, like, the intellectual women. I feel like all of them have really been super sharp. Yeah, everyone's a catch for him. Like, I mean, did you see his house? It had seven. pots and pans in the sink that haven't been washed like he's like remember his do you remember

when they went home with him to with the boys yeah yeah but i don't remember seeing that his kitchen was a mess like this guy like it was like crazy can you imagine like yeah they're coming over to the tape today and there was six pans just in the sink like what i didn't know i can't believe we missed that yeah i'm telling you it's like disgusting like it's like dude get a housekeeper, you know, like, so it's like, I think, and I'm not saying these women are going to clean his house, I'm saying they're going to, like, be more on the ball than him.

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Yeah, so Debbie, I don't know. Like, Debbie is flexible, but like, her life is flexible, but I don't know. I think Debbie's kind of like a stronger-willed person. Like, it would, and I don't, I hope that doesn't sound bad towards Cindy, but Cindy feels like she's like, I mean, her hometown, she's like, I'm just in, like, she's Gaga. She's moving LA. She already said I'd moved to LA. Like she's already said it. She's, she's ready. She's been ready to. We got to get her single daughter on the bachelor. Her daughter. Cindy's daughters are so hot. Every single one. All three of them are so hot. Wild. They are. I mean,

Cindy's beautiful too. They are like, and the one is on TikTok. Like she's like the social media manager now. Oh, really? She is she's popping up on my algorithm. The two daughters, well the third one wasn't there. Is she younger? No, there was three there was. Yeah, there was there was three but the one. One's married, one's engaged and then one, they didn't say. So it could be a boyfriend, but like

if she's single. They're all like she was younger. I think she was. The dancer one is single. We're getting from production. The dancer one is single. Cindy is trying to set Jonathan Johnson up with her. Okay, so she's the beige. for me to say is hot.

And she's trying to set her up with Jonathan. Yeah, you can say she's hot. Then I can say she's hot. They are, and she's on TikTok like running the show here for her. Like she's doing some, you know, like they're getting social. I need to go find her. I like it when the kids help out. Yeah.

They are on the ball. They were definitely less like on him that I mean when Mel talked to the two son-in-laws. I was like, what a. gift from the gods for them. I'm like, they're throwing him a soccer right now. I would have been like, I would have ripped them out of the room. I'm like, get out of here. Scat!

We're going to talk about college football? After Peg's daughter, they're like, gosh, you do this again? Well, he also only sat, he sat down with two of the daughters, which I'm assuming are the youngest in the middle. And then he sat down with what she was very much giving like eldest daughter energy. Yeah. Who she was kind of giving similar vibes to Peg's daughter, where she was like, I don't know What are your intentions here, buddy?

Right. She got harder on him, but it was when he sat with the son-in-laws talking about, oh, she loves football. Like, get out of here. I would have, I would have like, if I was like pegs, I'm like, they must have like, he must have made that happen. He was like, oh, I'll go talk with the guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can go talk.

A hundred percent. So funny. Yeah. So overall, overall, what is your takeaway from hometown? So we got, we got two women left. Who do you? Who do you think he's going to choose? I think he goes with Cindy just because I think he, you know, Mel, even when question gives

nothing up, I think Peg is going to ask harder questions than Cindy. And I think Mel, Mel, who I know it took us an hour to get to this point, he's a nice guy. I like Mel. It's just Mel going to do Mel. Like Mel is like, like, like. And Mel's whole story about his divorce, which he hasn't gone into beyond the papers were on the kitchen table. And I just signed.

Like, dude, what's the story there? He never gives anything. And I think he's like not even close to his chest. They're like so to his body. Like they're going nowhere. He's a private person who just so happened to stumble into being the bachelor. It's so interesting to me because it's like, I feel like on one. hand he clearly values the experience and wanted to be the bachelor i mean he signed up willingly

there's something about this experience that he wanted wanted to gain from but on the other hand he's like the most reluctant bachelor i've ever seen where he's like like you said mel's gonna do mel like he's not going to talk about things he doesn't want to talk about like openness and vulnerability aren't on the table like i don't know what how he feels about any of these women like i can tell from like body language and interactions that he likes cindy and pegg he's excited about them like i haven't been surprised by any eliminations but verbally there's been like no reassurance happening yeah it's it's absolutely wild it's it's you're absolutely right i i and and that's why cindy like she's kind of like i i think she's going to allow for it more than

pegwood yeah and i think she's just very like hard eyes for mel like i really think and i do think they have a connection no no no this isn't like listen i've seen couples with less connection become married and have kids and do the whole thing. Like, and the beauty of this show is like there is like they're going off to date. Like I think like it would the bachelor would be better off if it was in that, you know, world of like, well, what's next kids and like like I'm sure you guys get this. You've been married four years. You know, everyone's probably on you.

What's next? What's next? You know, for Mel and whoever he chooses, what's next is, I mean, we've got to just figure out how we're going to do this whole thing. They're just going to, like, you know. Do you think he's going to get engaged? Yeah. Do you think he'll get engaged?

No. I don't think so either. I don't think he's getting engaged. Oh, really? I do. You think he'll get engaged? Yeah. I don't know if I think he's going to do it. He won't even tell them he likes them.

Right. Like, I don't know how he's going to propose. I think he's got the backbone to say to production. I mean, in the same way when he's like, I'm going with Nicole, we're going on a date. Like, he has the backbone and be like, no, I'm not doing that. Yeah. Like, I think that would be like very mel to be like, I'm not there, but I'm willing to like, they can move into my house. I think there's like a few pots and pans in the kitchen sink, but I think we could.

Yeah. You can find some space for them. I think he's going to, I think, I think he gets engaged. I am looking forward to seeing his interaction with his sons and Paginson because I'm assuming we'll get that. The sons, they're going to be like, oh, they're hot. You know, like it's going to. His two idiot sons, Lars and Mars or whatever. Lars and Mars.

Okay, that's it for today. Jared, anything you want to plug. I know you said you are going on tour. Table for one tour. It's on right now. Jaredfrey.com. Assemble the group chat. Bring your friends and family.

It's all about going to Europe alone and having dinner with my parents and what it's like to have dinner with my parents, which I'm sure it keeps changing. I just did it in Richmond and I'm doing it on the road, but I think it's going to be about having dinner with my parents because that's like it's been like, I moved to Delray Beach.

I live in Delray Beach. If you guys come down here come hang out with New York anymore? No, I was like I wanted to change. My parents live like 25 minutes away. So we hang out a lot and they're out of their minds, which I'm sure your parents are out of their minds too.

and like I'm trying to date and I'm trying to like I kind of needed a separation of like work and life Delray Beach is like the best place in the country like I can't say enough good things like if you want to do a weekend from New York like that's like to me such a win of a weekend but I should be on the tourism board but I got shows all over the country listen if you connect with Debbie you'll love my show

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