Bachelor Happy Hour - Jenn On Her New Era

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

Today on Happy Hour, we are back for Part 2 of our sit down with Jenn! We kick off today’s episode with more details Jenn wants us to know about her relationship with Devin. Then, we get into her fi...nale; what was going through Jenn’s head during those intense moments? What was it like for her to see Marcus again? We get all the details, including the backstory on Devin following Maria. And of course, we get into Jenn, Jonathon, and Paradise—what’s the latest on it all? Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:49 We have a lot more to talk about. Before we get into all of the craziness from AFR, are there any other details you want people to know about your relationship with Devin, anything, any red flags that you want to call out that you experienced or just any conversations you guys had? Yes. Okay. So I want to add to paint this picture. I basically like, so I've been saying he'd go missing for some days and some hours and like not give me an answer and whatever. But then at one point we had to start sharing our location with each other safety reasons.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And also, like, if you're at a bar, whatever, I don't want to be texting you. Like, you know, like, it's just a normal thing. Yeah. He, a week later, unshared his location with me. And I just, I never thought anything of it. I never asked anything about it. But I don't know. I think it's a weird thing to unshare your location with somebody.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And he did it in a very sly way in which you can go on find your friends and just stop sharing the location. But then it still says that you're sharing the location with somebody. But every time you go to see, it's like, it just says, location not found so this is rough oh my god i even know that was a thing you can do you're also in a position i really feel for you in this position because you're in like a spot where you like you could start feeling like the crazy one in all this and you're like what what is happening um but yeah yeah rough but let's get into afr we'll kick it off um real quick because people aren't really here for marcus but we will talk a little bit about Marcus. Marcus, Marcus was your, was your runner up. You did fall in
Starting point is 00:03:35 love with him, right? How was it seeing him for the first time? It was great seeing him for the first time. Honestly, I had been just worried about him and like, like, wanted to make sure that he was okay. So it was good to see a friendly face again. And yeah, I mean, did I love him? like I I loved him as a person like he is such a beautiful story and he is someone who I resonate with in terms of just wanting to be loved so deeply and and having um just like issues with um with not feeling loved like I resonated with him so much with that so uh we just bonded a lot on that and I think like I also was chasing something you know I was trying to like break this habit that I thought that I had known about and I thought it was different because Marcus is
Starting point is 00:04:22 a good guy like he's not someone that like led me on like the other guys I've had in my past but um I think I have love for him as a person and just who he is like he's such a great guy um but yeah like was I really really in love with him like I don't know are you comfortable do you feel like it was the correct decision letting him go absolutely I at all the time like I truly don't see the season ending any other way um every guy was so special and unique in their own way But at the end of the day, like, Devin was my strongest connection. And I saw a future with him. I wanted to get married.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Like, I wanted to have kids with this. Like, I don't regret that because I do, I did feel that. And I did think that at one point, you know. Okay. So this is when things get wild. Were you aware that you were going to be sitting there with Devin watching your engagement? I was aware that that was going to happen. um i didn't anticipate being as emotional as i was and i also i wanted devon to watch that like
Starting point is 00:05:31 he had been saying all this time like i just don't feel it anymore i felt pressure to get engaged i'm like watch you very free willingly get engaged to me and get down on the knee and promise me the world so um i wanted him to see it because i'm like are you even listening to the things you're saying on the show and and yeah i didn't know i was going to freak down like that and yeah what other than making sure that devon because i guess that is the only way you could be like a hundred percent sure that he watched it was like i'm going to sit on this couch with you and watch you watch yourself declare your love for me what were your other goals going into um afr um my goal was to be able to speak words on stage i honestly like i knew it was just going to be a rough day
Starting point is 00:06:20 and i was so mad i was so mad because Because Devin and I had talked about it and we were like, we want to see each other before AFR. We're going to have a conversation just the two of us. And whatever happens happens and we can like go to AFR and like just be normal or or just tell our story and we can like part amicably. But I don't want to be doing this on live TV. And I don't feel like I don't feel like that conversation is going to be for us because it's not. It's for the world. And what I would have wanted is a little bit of respect and for him and just be like, okay, let's just let's talk.
Starting point is 00:06:52 me and you because I owe you that but he didn't like he led me to believe that he wanted to do that for me and he never did so I was pissed going into AFR I was like this man doesn't care about me at all he sits here and he says he respects me cares about me he loved me like he said the love was real where how because you don't give a shit about how I'm feeling I don't know if you caught this I'm sure you did because you were sitting there but but right before we go to right before the show goes to break you hear Devin say what is going on here Oh, yeah, he was saying that a lot. Yeah, and he just seemed really confused and surprised and, like, I don't understand where
Starting point is 00:07:30 this is coming from was kind of his energy. Yeah, but then Jesse kind of teed him up to like, okay, then speak. And he never really gave an answer. What did he, what do you think he meant when he said, what is, what was, why did he seem like he was shocked in the moment? I don't know why he thought he was shocked. What did he think was going to happen? He'd been ghosting me for the past week.
Starting point is 00:07:55 He went to New York with this girl. Like, what's like, what do you mean? Like, I had expressed him every single feeling that I had been feeling at post-breakup. Like, I called him after I found out about the Maria thing. I was like, what did you do that for to hurt me? Like, I, we've been talking. So I don't know what he was confused about. And, yeah, I remember him just being like, what is going on here?
Starting point is 00:08:19 And, like, just giving me, like, the weirdest look. And I'm like, why are you acting like I'm doing something unreasonable other than like unhashing our relationship, which is what we're here to do? Like I so, I don't know what he was thinking in that moment. Do you think because you guys had talked, because it sounds like you both wanted to get to a place where things could be amicable and you could go out there and be like, hey, look, this is sucks, but we're okay. We're going to part ways. Do you think he just expected. did it to go like that, even though you guys hadn't talked? No, because so after New York, so the week before he went to New York, that was when we were
Starting point is 00:09:03 like, we're going to work through this and like, whatever happens, happens, but like, let's talk and like, let's see where this leads us, right? That's where I was feeling very, very hopeful. Then he went to New York, ghosted me all weekend, didn't respond to any text. Then Monday, Tuesday, the next week, I was like, let's get on the phone. Like, let's catch up after the weekend. like let's figure out you know what we're going to do here um and truthfully i was still hopeful i was like maybe i can talk some sense into this boy and we can be engaged and be happy or whatever
Starting point is 00:09:31 um and he blew up on me at this point he like was texting me crazy things he's like i never said that like i never said i wanted to see you like he at this point the daven that i knew texting me on the phone was not somebody that i knew so i was confused i felt manipulated i felt like you were just telling me those things to like get by for the week and now that we're here and like AFR is coming up you're now saying never meant those things so things were messy things things got messy so I don't know why he would think we were on good terms because we weren't yeah what was what was all the Maria nonsense of it all like what what because what what what was the deal with that and then I saw like she put out she put out like a statement or came
Starting point is 00:10:14 and like said something on her social media account yeah I mean when I had said that at AFAR I just didn't know how much it would pick up like I just You're venting in a way Yes and it hurt It hurt me that he did that
Starting point is 00:10:32 But he went and followed her the day after essentially Because why would you do that Like that to me is telling me that You broke up with me Now you're following a girl who was rumored To have been in the running for the bachelor It's like okay so did you ever even love me Did you actually want to date?
Starting point is 00:10:48 her or somebody else like that's what pissed me off about it and it had nothing to do with maria and him like i know i know that nothing happened there okay i never intended to make it seem like any no i wanted to call him out to call him out for doing what he did and what his intentions were yeah yeah and i think it's it's good to know like that was about him not about maria it was about his actions hitting a sore spot that he was fully aware existed exactly 100% did you watch Maria's statement at all? I did. I, well, I didn't watch the world.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I had heard about it. Yeah. Yeah. How did it make you feel? It was nice. It was nice. Like, we support each other from afar and like, I knew, I knew nothing had happened. So, um, so yeah, it was a nice statement.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah. Okay. So then, I mean, this kind of all wraps, it probably, you probably couldn't have planned it to go worse. You're just like, what the fuck. But there's no way that that could have gone. Well, no, I'm saying like your season is kind of like, ah, like this, this was not the way I wanted it to go. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come. come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to This week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I don't write songs.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I don't write songs. I didn't even know you've been a pastor for over 10 years. I think culture is any space that you live in that develops you. On a recent episode of Culture Raises Us podcast, I sat down with Warren Campbell, Grammy-winning producer, pastor, and music executive to talk about the beats, the business, and the legacy behind some of the biggest names in gospel, R&B, and hip-hop. This is like watching Michael Jackson talk about Thurley before it happened. Was there a particular moment where you realize just how instrumental music culture was
Starting point is 00:13:26 to shaping all of our global ecosystem? I was eight years old, and the Motown 25 special came on. And all the great Motown artists, Marvin, Stevie Wonder, Temptations, Diana Raw. From Mary Mary to Jennifer Hudson, we get into the soul of the music and the purpose that drives it. Listen to Culture Raises us on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I'm Danielle Robe, and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. The new podcast from Hello Sunshine and IHeart Podcasts, where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off. Each week, I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars, and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TVR pile. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Books is the official audio book and ebook home for Reese's Book Club. Visit apple.co-forward slash Reese Apple Books to find out more. You have to lean into the chaos of what your life is right now. And it's a little chaotic and messy, but that's also, like, fun.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Like, not too many people get to do this, you know? Absolutely. Absolutely. And here's the thing, like, everything, it's a blessing in disguise what had happened. And as upset as I can be about it and was about it and still am sometimes about it. I know that I'm so happy that this came out now rather than, like, five years later when we were married and had kids so yeah no that would that would be that would be the worst case scenario um is there anything you think that devon could have said at afr that would have helped his situation
Starting point is 00:15:26 or your situation i mean uh he could have been nicer and actually like said sorry like i don't think he said sorry one time stage like there was such a lack of empathy on that stage where i was like what is going on with you like at least pretend to be sorry you're like you don't even seem like you are so I don't know that's why I left that conversation feeling very upset because I'm like he had been telling me he felt sorry and then he wasn't sorry on stage and it was just it felt really weird to me but also I don't think there's anything that he can say to help the situation because the truth of the matter is who broke up with me is following a bunch of other girls I'm like if you just want to hook up with people just tell me that just I would respect you
Starting point is 00:16:14 so much more of you were just like, listen, I want to go fuck around. Please, please. And now he's seen with his ex-girlfriend flying together, going on trips together. Like, I'm sorry, there's nothing that you could do to help that. Like, you made your bed and you're going to lay in it. Like, I can't do anything with that. Do you feel like you got closure on the stage of AFR from the relationship, or is it hard to feel closure when it went down like that? The closure is now everything that's coming out about him. like I've had so many exes reach out to me now being like you dodged a bullet and and the the pictures of him at this girl like now I have the closure I need because it's not me it's you
Starting point is 00:16:55 like you clearly have a lot of work to be done and you did not handle this situation right in a good way at all and and yeah I mean there are so many girls that have been like he's been in my DMs since this day blah blah blah or I dated him and he's dated him and he's he was this and that, this and that. Like, so like I just, I have the closure I know and knowing that the person that I met on the TV show didn't, never existed. Yeah. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Have you spoken to him since AFR or now? Um, I had texted him a couple of times and now. Now he's just blocked and everything because the stuff with this girl, I'm done. There's nothing he can say to make that better. But, um, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And then what's, what's all this? all the Jonathan, you guys are like doing TikToks together and in Instagram Reels. What's happened in there? Anything? Do we circle them back? No, I love him. He's just so sweet and he's just so kind. And I feel like truthfully a little defeated from the season because I'm like, okay, what do I have now? Like all these guys have each other and it's just me. And I loved this journey so much.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And every time I would see the guys, I'm like, I just want to hang out with them. Like, I don't need to kiss them. I just want to hang out and be in the house with all the guys. So, like, to come out of this with a really, really good friend like Jonathan is a win in my book. He's such a great guy. And truthfully, I'm not in a place where I can even date anybody right now or entertain the idea of somebody. My heart is just not there yet. But it feels really, really good to have a friend like him to lean on and to just have a support system.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Like, I'm moving to L.A. I don't know anybody. Yeah. It's been... Have... Sorry. I was going to say, the good thing, too, is you have now, like, this dancing with the Stars family to kind of, like, feel like you're part of this community out in L.A. Have any past leads reached out to you and shown support?
Starting point is 00:19:01 I know Rachel Rechia was in the audience, and I feel like she had kind of a tumultuous ending as well with her season. Rachel. Rachel has a very special place in my heart. We went to dinner a couple of days before you. far um and oh she's just been my biggest supporter through all of this and i truly could not have done it without her because she just put things into perspective for me but yeah i mean she had a very it's funny because she was doing interviews before she even knew the ending and everything saying that
Starting point is 00:19:30 like he had been reminded her of tino and i was like i remember reading those things and no Devin's not changed so much Please no But seeing that you are Good friends with Jonathan now And he was He probably
Starting point is 00:19:45 He was probably spent more time With Devin than you did in the house Have you asked him like Hey Were there any inklings that like Or even like Any of the guys If you want to like keep them anonymous
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yeah We've had conversations about it And at the end of the day I'm not I'm not going to like that's his that's you know their narrative whatever they they want to say they can say but yeah we've we've definitely had some conversations around surrounding it yeah yeah how about like Sam M does he reach out I don't know who I thought you were going to say I just wasn't expecting that person that's actually funny yeah he did like a few of the guys have and that mean so much to me and Sam M too and listen I've seen his TikToks too with like the main thing the main thing whatever whatever I mean at the end of the day Sam was not my person
Starting point is 00:20:39 Devin was not my too like it yeah but it is nice that the guys are reaching out and supporting you yeah absolutely it feels really good to have the guys make sure that I'm okay because I I love them all like I can't describe it like we went through this beautiful
Starting point is 00:20:57 journey together and when I saw them at mental all like I hugged every single one of them like I just I have a special place in my heart literally point blank was sam m and thomas right about devon point blank is sam m and thomas were right about okay how how's your family because they your brother and your mom sitting there and having to watch all of that and you could tell like both of them were very took this very seriously and didn't want to see you go through a heartbreak and then they you know they're sitting there watching you
Starting point is 00:21:34 go through a heartbreak. Yeah, and I will say we see a lot of protective brothers on the show. And sometimes they come in really hot and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. But your brother was asking some really good questions. Like, I was very impressed with him because I feel like he was trying to guide you and ask thought-provoking questions, but also let you do your own thing as a woman. Yeah, he handled himself so, so well. And I was, I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 00:22:03 he's somebody who like all my friends go to for advice all the time like he's so introspective he's so perceptive he just he has this like ability to understand the situation fully and see it from all sides so um it was really great to have him there and be there and he adoring one of the commercial breaks at a far he that came over and hugged me and he's like I thought that it would make you feel better but then you just kept sobbing and stopping when you're like in that moment and you're like in that moment and then somebody comes and hugs you and then you really just let it all out. No, there's times where I'm upset where I'm like, nobody
Starting point is 00:22:38 touch me because I'm going to lose it. Yeah, I really know. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend
Starting point is 00:22:57 Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like it was never a princess. Like that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I don't write songs. God write songs. I take dictation. I didn't even know you've been a pastor for over 10 years. I think culture is any space that you live in that develops you. On a recent episode of Culture Raises Us podcast, I sat down with Warren Campbell, Grammy-winning producer, pastor, and music executive to talk about the beats, the business, business and the legacy behind some of the biggest names in gospel, R&B, and hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:24:06 This is like watching Michael Jackson talk about Thurley before it happened. Was there a particular moment where you realize just how instrumental music culture was to shaping all of our global ecosystem? I was eight years old, and the Motown 25 special came on. And all the great Motown artists, Marvin, Stevie Wonder, Temptations, Diana Roth. From Mary Mary to Jennifer Hudson, we get into the soul of the music, and the purpose that drives it. Listen to Culture raises us on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:24:36 or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robeye, and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. The new podcast from Hello Sunshine and IHeart Podcasts, where we dive into the stories that shape us.
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Starting point is 00:25:31 Okay, so let's, let's, I'm just going to paint this picture a little bit. Let's say, you know, dancing with the stars ends, you know, it's three months after that. You're feeling good, but you're still single, but you're in a good place. You're going to be a crazy look. Wood, is there a world where you would consider going on Bachelor in Paradise? No? No, I'm telling you. It's not happening.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I mean, I got to ask the question. Oh, no, no. I'm so serious. First of all, I'm going back to PA school. And the plan right now is like there's just no more breaks to be had. And I've, I've did two shows. I do not need a third one. Clearly, this is just like not for me.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Also, I would have trust issues based on what happened to me this time. So, um, absolutely. Okay. Okay. Well, I, the show is going to fly me out if you're out there because I'm going to go out there and be like I, you fucking. you lied you lied you lied you're being devitt no um no i no i know it's not happening and i would like to just um meet i have love in the club or something like meet somebody in real life love in the club let's get a little love in the club here um speaking at the club how is boston
Starting point is 00:26:49 oh my god boston was the first time i felt like i could finally be myself and i was free like the past month I've just changed myself up going through this breakup by myself grieving and like I know that when I grieve like I can't go out and party like I just can't so I haven't done that and like for the first time I was surrounded by my friends and family and I just felt so good and it felt freeing to like have it all out there and and when I'm in Boston a really chaotic side of me comes out just because I lived there post college it was like early 20s I I don't know I just have so much fun in Boston all the time. It was like the perfect weekend that I needed. That's good. I feel like once you're over the hump of the crying in bed phase of a breakup,
Starting point is 00:27:35 you need a good night out. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Like it's not it's not a linear process healing. Like there are days and sad, moments unsad, but it feels nice to finally actually be happy for a second. Yeah, you deserve it after the crazy few months you've had. I feel like everyone comes off this show saying they've learned so much. What do you feel like you've learned about yourself? And then what do you feel like you're now looking for in a partner that you maybe didn't have on your radar before? Well, I learned so much about my own and why I go for certain people and the feelings that I've had with people is not necessarily a good feeling. Like when I go, oh, there's this chemistry that's whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like sometimes that's a bad thing because I might not necessarily know what a healthy love is, which is why. When I picked Devin, it was like, it's a healthy feeling in the moment. But what I'm learning, not, I will be chasing that healthy feeling now in a new relationship. It's like there doesn't need to be this push and pull. There doesn't mean to be this weird, undescriable chemistry. It's like, no, you just need a loving partner and someone who can support you and understand you. And I'm happy that I, for a second, got to know what that healthy love. felt like um and now that's the feeling that i'll be chasing i like that i think that's good
Starting point is 00:29:03 what would be your advice for the next bachelor at advice um god i don't know i don't know how to help you i mean no that's fine yes that's okay you don't know with this situation I truthfully don't know no but you know what you couldn't have avoided this situation I don't think and I think it's good
Starting point is 00:29:36 that you can recognize that because how could you have known I couldn't I think you did it the right way I mean you fully leaned in it just it didn't work out but that's okay like in the long run
Starting point is 00:29:49 it's going to work out like it's already panning out are you happy do you feel like that dancing with the stars has kind of closed your journey on a positive note, at least a little bit? Absolutely. It definitely closed my journey on a positive note because now I'm doing something for myself,
Starting point is 00:30:08 something that I've always wanted to do. And I'm working on myself and learning something for myself. So it feels really good to come out of this stronger as a person and to be working towards something that's going to make me feel happy. Yeah. Good. Okay, last question. So throughout this season, you have paired every week with a Taylor Swift song, which has been so fun to follow along. What is your Taylor Swift song or era for moving forward into this next stage of your life? This is an excellent, excellent question. I'm in an undefined era of Taylor Swift. But no, truthfully, like, it's still, like, I made the last song for the episode, like, what? like I can do it with broken heart and truthfully like I'm still healing like I'm still mending and like I'm happy that I get to have these moments in these interviews and on these shows where I can like be happy but like I'm deeply like still hurt from the situation but I'm pushing through
Starting point is 00:31:11 and I'm still just going to be the best version of myself because I have to do that for myself but yeah I am like hurting sometimes and that and that's okay but as soon as like I if I just keep believing that I'm going to be happy, then I'm going to be happy. And it's all going to work out. I know that. Yeah. Got to feel pain and feel joy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Well, that's a beautiful job. Way to follow up her really beautiful words with that cheesy quote. Jen, thank you so much for joining us on Happy Hour. Thank you for having me. I love being here. We love having you. I'm rooting for you on dancing. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Okay. I need tips, Joe. What am I supposed to be doing here? just have fun lean into it and and have it's so but it's so don't let the day of yeah destroy you because it's such a stress it's very stressful like it's very stressful you're going to be anxious like really just kind of like lean into the fact that it's a stage you're there to perform and just do your best and enjoy it and have fun because like there were so many like I was really bad but there were so many moments where I'm like I wish I would have just
Starting point is 00:32:26 had a little more fun and got out of my own head because it overall it's such a great experience and you only get to do it once and you look back and you're like that was so much fun I wish I enjoyed it a little more you know okay made it far what do you mean you weren't I mean but yeah that's because people kept voting for me or honestly or just take a shot of whiskey I mean I also did that so okay I'll be taking a shot at killable for my dances. There you go. Shot o'clock. There you go. John, thank you so much for coming on, Bachelor Happy Hour. We really
Starting point is 00:32:56 appreciate it so much. I love being both, so I'll come back soon. Yeah, come back soon. You've been a phenomenal lead, and it's been so much fun chatting with you throughout the season. And for all our listeners, make sure you guys tune into Jones premiere
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