Bachelor Happy Hour - Jenn On Her New Era
Episode Date: September 11, 2024Today on Happy Hour, we are back for Part 2 of our sit down with Jenn! We kick off today’s episode with more details Jenn wants us to know about her relationship with Devin. Then, we get into her fi...nale; what was going through Jenn’s head during those intense moments? What was it like for her to see Marcus again? We get all the details, including the backstory on Devin following Maria. And of course, we get into Jenn, Jonathon, and Paradise—what’s the latest on it all? Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to Badger Happy Hour.
I'm Joe.
And I'm Serena.
And we are here with Part 2 with Jen.
Thanks for tuning back in.
We have a lot more to talk about.
Before we get into all of the craziness from AFR,
are there any other details you want people to know
about your relationship with Devin, anything, any red flags that you want to call out that
you experienced or just any conversations you guys had?
Yes. Okay. So I want to add to paint this picture. I basically like, so I've been saying
he'd go missing for some days and some hours and like not give me an answer and whatever.
But then at one point we had to start sharing our location with each other safety reasons.
And also, like, if you're at a bar, whatever, I don't want to be texting you.
Like, you know, like, it's just a normal thing.
Yeah.
He, a week later, unshared his location with me.
And I just, I never thought anything of it.
I never asked anything about it.
But I don't know.
I think it's a weird thing to unshare your location with somebody.
And he did it in a very sly way in which you can go on find your friends and just stop sharing the location.
But then it still says that you're sharing the location with somebody.
But every time you go to see, it's like, it just says,
location not found so this is rough oh my god i even know that was a thing you can do you're also in a
position i really feel for you in this position because you're in like a spot where you like you could
start feeling like the crazy one in all this and you're like what what is happening um but yeah yeah rough
but let's get into afr we'll kick it off um real quick because people aren't really here for marcus but
we will talk a little bit about Marcus. Marcus, Marcus was your, was your runner up. You did fall in
love with him, right? How was it seeing him for the first time? It was great seeing him for the
first time. Honestly, I had been just worried about him and like, like, wanted to make sure that
he was okay. So it was good to see a friendly face again. And yeah, I mean, did I love him?
like I I loved him as a person like he is such a beautiful story and he is someone who I resonate
with in terms of just wanting to be loved so deeply and and having um just like issues with
um with not feeling loved like I resonated with him so much with that so uh we just bonded a lot on
that and I think like I also was chasing something you know I was trying to like break this habit
that I thought that I had known about and I thought it was different because Marcus is
a good guy like he's not someone that like led me on like the other guys I've had in my past but um
I think I have love for him as a person and just who he is like he's such a great guy um but yeah
like was I really really in love with him like I don't know are you comfortable do you feel like
it was the correct decision letting him go absolutely I at all the time like I truly don't see the
season ending any other way um every guy was so special and unique in their own way
But at the end of the day, like, Devin was my strongest connection.
And I saw a future with him.
I wanted to get married.
Like, I wanted to have kids with this.
Like, I don't regret that because I do, I did feel that.
And I did think that at one point, you know.
Okay.
So this is when things get wild.
Were you aware that you were going to be sitting there with Devin watching your engagement?
I was aware that that was going to happen.
um i didn't anticipate being as emotional as i was and i also i wanted devon to watch that like
he had been saying all this time like i just don't feel it anymore i felt pressure to get engaged i'm like
watch you very free willingly get engaged to me and get down on the knee and promise me the world so
um i wanted him to see it because i'm like are you even listening to the things you're saying
on the show and and yeah i didn't know i was going to freak down like that and yeah
what other than making sure that devon because i guess that is the only way you could be like
a hundred percent sure that he watched it was like i'm going to sit on this couch with you and
watch you watch yourself declare your love for me what were your other goals going into um afr um my
goal was to be able to speak words on stage i honestly like i knew it was just going to be a rough day
and i was so mad i was so mad because
Because Devin and I had talked about it and we were like, we want to see each other before AFR.
We're going to have a conversation just the two of us.
And whatever happens happens and we can like go to AFR and like just be normal or or just tell our story and we can like part amicably.
But I don't want to be doing this on live TV.
And I don't feel like I don't feel like that conversation is going to be for us because it's not.
It's for the world.
And what I would have wanted is a little bit of respect and for him and just be like, okay, let's just let's talk.
me and you because I owe you that but he didn't like he led me to believe that he wanted to do
that for me and he never did so I was pissed going into AFR I was like this man doesn't care about me
at all he sits here and he says he respects me cares about me he loved me like he said the love was
real where how because you don't give a shit about how I'm feeling I don't know if you caught
this I'm sure you did because you were sitting there but but right before we go to right
before the show goes to break you hear Devin say what is going on here
Oh, yeah, he was saying that a lot.
Yeah, and he just seemed really confused and surprised and, like, I don't understand where
this is coming from was kind of his energy.
Yeah, but then Jesse kind of teed him up to like, okay, then speak.
And he never really gave an answer.
What did he, what do you think he meant when he said, what is, what was, why did he seem
like he was shocked in the moment?
I don't know why he thought he was shocked.
What did he think was going to happen?
He'd been ghosting me for the past week.
He went to New York with this girl.
Like, what's like, what do you mean?
Like, I had expressed him every single feeling that I had been feeling at post-breakup.
Like, I called him after I found out about the Maria thing.
I was like, what did you do that for to hurt me?
Like, I, we've been talking.
So I don't know what he was confused about.
And, yeah, I remember him just being like, what is going on here?
And, like, just giving me, like, the weirdest look.
And I'm like, why are you acting like I'm doing something unreasonable other than like unhashing our
relationship, which is what we're here to do? Like I so, I don't know what he was thinking in that
moment. Do you think because you guys had talked, because it sounds like you both wanted to get to a
place where things could be amicable and you could go out there and be like, hey, look, this is
sucks, but we're okay. We're going to part ways. Do you think he just expected.
did it to go like that, even though you guys hadn't talked?
No, because so after New York, so the week before he went to New York, that was when we were
like, we're going to work through this and like, whatever happens, happens, but like, let's talk
and like, let's see where this leads us, right?
That's where I was feeling very, very hopeful.
Then he went to New York, ghosted me all weekend, didn't respond to any text.
Then Monday, Tuesday, the next week, I was like, let's get on the phone.
Like, let's catch up after the weekend.
like let's figure out you know what we're going to do here um and truthfully i was still hopeful
i was like maybe i can talk some sense into this boy and we can be engaged and be happy or whatever
um and he blew up on me at this point he like was texting me crazy things he's like i never said
that like i never said i wanted to see you like he at this point the daven that i knew
texting me on the phone was not somebody that i knew so i was confused i felt manipulated i felt
like you were just telling me those things to like get by for the week and now that we're here
and like AFR is coming up you're now saying never meant those things so things were messy
things things got messy so I don't know why he would think we were on good terms because we weren't
yeah what was what was all the Maria nonsense of it all like what what because what what
what was the deal with that and then I saw like she put out she put out like a statement or came
and like said something on her social media account yeah I mean
when I had said that at AFAR
I just didn't know
how much it would pick up
like I just
You're venting in a way
Yes and it hurt
It hurt me that he did that
But he went and followed her the day after essentially
Because why would you do that
Like that to me is telling me that
You broke up with me
Now you're following a girl who was rumored
To have been in the running for the bachelor
It's like okay so did you ever even love me
Did you actually want to date?
her or somebody else like that's what pissed me off about it and it had nothing to do with maria
and him like i know i know that nothing happened there okay i never intended to make it seem like
any no i wanted to call him out to call him out for doing what he did and what his intentions were
yeah yeah and i think it's it's good to know like that was about him not about maria it was about
his actions hitting a sore spot that he was fully aware existed exactly 100% did you
watch Maria's statement at all?
I did.
I, well, I didn't watch the world.
I had heard about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How did it make you feel?
It was nice.
It was nice.
Like, we support each other from afar and like, I knew, I knew nothing had happened.
So, um, so yeah, it was a nice statement.
Yeah.
Okay.
So then, I mean, this kind of all wraps, it probably, you probably couldn't have planned it to go worse.
You're just like, what the fuck.
But there's no way that that could have gone.
Well, no, I'm saying like your season is kind of like, ah, like this, this was not the way I wanted it to go.
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You have to lean into the chaos of what your life is right now.
And it's a little chaotic and messy, but that's also, like, fun.
Like, not too many people get to do this, you know?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And here's the thing, like, everything, it's a blessing in disguise what had happened.
And as upset as I can be about it and was about it and still am sometimes about it.
I know that I'm so happy that this came out now rather than, like, five years later when we were
married and had kids so yeah no that would that would be that would be the worst case scenario um
is there anything you think that devon could have said at afr that would have helped his situation
or your situation i mean uh he could have been nicer and actually like said sorry like i don't
think he said sorry one time stage like there was such a lack of empathy on that stage where i was
like what is going on with you like at least pretend to be sorry you're like you don't even
seem like you are so I don't know that's why I left that conversation feeling very upset because
I'm like he had been telling me he felt sorry and then he wasn't sorry on stage and it was just
it felt really weird to me but also I don't think there's anything that he can say to help
the situation because the truth of the matter is who broke up with me is following a bunch of other
girls I'm like if you just want to hook up with people just tell me that just I would respect you
so much more of you were just like, listen, I want to go fuck around. Please, please.
And now he's seen with his ex-girlfriend flying together, going on trips together.
Like, I'm sorry, there's nothing that you could do to help that.
Like, you made your bed and you're going to lay in it. Like, I can't do anything with that.
Do you feel like you got closure on the stage of AFR from the relationship, or is it hard to feel closure when it went down like that?
The closure is now everything that's coming out about him.
like I've had so many exes reach out to me now being like you dodged a bullet and and the
the pictures of him at this girl like now I have the closure I need because it's not me it's you
like you clearly have a lot of work to be done and you did not handle this situation right
in a good way at all and and yeah I mean there are so many girls that have been like he's been
in my DMs since this day blah blah blah or I dated him and he's dated him and he's
he was this and that, this and that.
Like, so like I just, I have the closure I know and knowing that the person that I met on
the TV show didn't, never existed.
Yeah.
That's fair.
Have you spoken to him since AFR or now?
Um, I had texted him a couple of times and now.
Now he's just blocked and everything because the stuff with this girl, I'm done.
There's nothing he can say to make that better.
But, um, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then what's, what's all this?
all the Jonathan, you guys are like doing TikToks together and in Instagram Reels.
What's happened in there? Anything?
Do we circle them back?
No, I love him. He's just so sweet and he's just so kind.
And I feel like truthfully a little defeated from the season because I'm like, okay, what do I have now?
Like all these guys have each other and it's just me.
And I loved this journey so much.
And every time I would see the guys, I'm like, I just want to hang out with them.
Like, I don't need to kiss them.
I just want to hang out and be in the house with all the guys.
So, like, to come out of this with a really, really good friend like Jonathan is a win in my book.
He's such a great guy.
And truthfully, I'm not in a place where I can even date anybody right now or entertain the idea of somebody.
My heart is just not there yet.
But it feels really, really good to have a friend like him to lean on and to just have a support system.
Like, I'm moving to L.A. I don't know anybody.
Yeah.
It's been...
Have...
Sorry.
I was going to say, the good thing, too, is you have now, like, this dancing with the
Stars family to kind of, like, feel like you're part of this community out in L.A.
Have any past leads reached out to you and shown support?
I know Rachel Rechia was in the audience, and I feel like she had kind of a tumultuous ending as well
with her season.
Rachel.
Rachel has a very special place in my heart.
We went to dinner a couple of days before you.
far um and oh she's just been my biggest supporter through all of this and i truly could not have
done it without her because she just put things into perspective for me but yeah i mean she had a very
it's funny because she was doing interviews before she even knew the ending and everything saying that
like he had been reminded her of tino and i was like i remember reading those things and no
Devin's not changed
so much
Please no
But seeing that you are
Good friends with Jonathan now
And he was
He probably
He was probably spent more time
With Devin than you did in the house
Have you asked him like
Hey
Were there any inklings that like
Or even like
Any of the guys
If you want to like keep them anonymous
Yeah
We've had conversations about it
And at the end of the day
I'm not
I'm not going to like that's his that's you know their narrative whatever they they want to say they can say but yeah we've we've definitely had some conversations around surrounding it yeah yeah how about like Sam M does he reach out
I don't know who I thought you were going to say I just wasn't expecting that person that's actually funny yeah he did like a few of the guys have and that mean so much to me and Sam M too and listen I've seen his TikToks too with like the main thing the main thing whatever whatever I mean
at the end of the day
Sam was not my person
Devin was not my too like it yeah
but it is nice that the guys
are reaching out and supporting
you yeah
absolutely it feels really good to have the guys
make sure that I'm okay because
I I love them all
like I can't describe it like we went through this beautiful
journey together and when I saw them at mental all
like I hugged every single one of them
like I just I have a special place
in my heart literally
point blank was sam m and thomas right about devon point blank is sam m and thomas were right about
okay how how's your family because they your brother and your mom sitting there and having to watch
all of that and you could tell like both of them were very took this very seriously and didn't want to
see you go through a heartbreak and then they you know they're sitting there watching you
go through a heartbreak.
Yeah, and I will say we see a lot of protective brothers on the show.
And sometimes they come in really hot and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
But your brother was asking some really good questions.
Like, I was very impressed with him because I feel like he was trying to guide you
and ask thought-provoking questions, but also let you do your own thing as a woman.
Yeah, he handled himself so, so well.
And I was, I'm not surprised.
he's somebody who like all my friends go to for advice all the time like he's so introspective he's so
perceptive he just he has this like ability to understand the situation fully and see it from all
sides so um it was really great to have him there and be there and he adoring one of the commercial
breaks at a far he that came over and hugged me and he's like I thought that it would make you feel
better but then you just kept sobbing and stopping when you're like in that moment and you're like in that
moment and then somebody comes and hugs you
and then you really just let it all out.
No, there's times where I'm upset where I'm like, nobody
touch me because I'm
going to lose it.
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I think culture is any space that you live in that develops you.
On a recent episode of Culture Raises Us podcast, I sat down with Warren Campbell,
Grammy-winning producer, pastor, and music executive to talk about the beats, the business,
business and the legacy behind some of the biggest names in gospel, R&B, and hip-hop.
This is like watching Michael Jackson talk about Thurley before it happened.
Was there a particular moment where you realize just how instrumental music culture was
to shaping all of our global ecosystem?
I was eight years old, and the Motown 25 special came on.
And all the great Motown artists, Marvin, Stevie Wonder, Temptations, Diana Roth.
From Mary Mary to Jennifer Hudson, we get into the soul of the music,
and the purpose that drives it.
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or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Okay, so let's, let's, I'm just going to paint this picture a little bit.
Let's say, you know, dancing with the stars ends, you know, it's three months after that.
You're feeling good, but you're still single, but you're in a good place.
You're going to be a crazy look.
Wood, is there a world where you would consider going on Bachelor in Paradise?
No?
No, I'm telling you.
It's not happening.
I mean, I got to ask the question.
Oh, no, no.
I'm so serious.
First of all, I'm going back to PA school.
And the plan right now is like there's just no more breaks to be had.
And I've, I've did two shows.
I do not need a third one.
Clearly, this is just like not for me.
Also, I would have trust issues based on what happened to me this time.
So, um, absolutely.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I, the show is going to fly me out if you're out there because I'm going to go out there and be like I, you fucking.
you lied you lied you lied you're being devitt no um no i no i know it's not happening and i would
like to just um meet i have love in the club or something like meet somebody in real life
love in the club let's get a little love in the club here um speaking at the club how is boston
oh my god boston was the first time i felt like i could finally be myself and i was free like
the past month I've just changed myself up going through this breakup by myself grieving and like
I know that when I grieve like I can't go out and party like I just can't so I haven't done that
and like for the first time I was surrounded by my friends and family and I just felt so good
and it felt freeing to like have it all out there and and when I'm in Boston a really chaotic side
of me comes out just because I lived there post college it was like early 20s I I don't know I just have
so much fun in Boston all the time. It was like the perfect weekend that I needed.
That's good. I feel like once you're over the hump of the crying in bed phase of a breakup,
you need a good night out. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Like it's not it's not a linear
process healing. Like there are days and sad, moments unsad, but it feels nice to finally actually
be happy for a second. Yeah, you deserve it after the crazy few months you've had. I feel like
everyone comes off this show saying they've learned so much.
What do you feel like you've learned about yourself?
And then what do you feel like you're now looking for in a partner that you maybe didn't have on your radar before?
Well, I learned so much about my own and why I go for certain people and the feelings that I've had with people is not necessarily a good feeling.
Like when I go, oh, there's this chemistry that's whatever.
Like sometimes that's a bad thing because I might not necessarily know what a healthy love is, which is why.
When I picked Devin, it was like, it's a healthy feeling in the moment.
But what I'm learning, not, I will be chasing that healthy feeling now in a new relationship.
It's like there doesn't need to be this push and pull.
There doesn't mean to be this weird, undescriable chemistry.
It's like, no, you just need a loving partner and someone who can support you and understand you.
And I'm happy that I, for a second, got to know what that healthy love.
felt like um and now that's the feeling that i'll be chasing i like that i think that's good
what would be your advice for the next bachelor at advice um god i don't know
i don't know how to help you i mean no that's fine yes that's okay you don't know
with this situation
I truthfully don't know
no but you know what
you couldn't have avoided
this situation I don't think
and I think it's good
that you can recognize that
because how could you have known
I couldn't
I think you did it the right way
I mean you fully leaned in
it just it didn't work out
but that's okay
like in the long run
it's going to work out
like it's already
panning out
are you happy
do you feel like
that dancing with the stars
has kind of closed your journey on a positive note, at least a little bit?
Absolutely. It definitely closed my journey on a positive note because now I'm doing something for myself,
something that I've always wanted to do. And I'm working on myself and learning something for
myself. So it feels really good to come out of this stronger as a person and to be working
towards something that's going to make me feel happy. Yeah. Good.
Okay, last question. So throughout this season, you have paired every week with a Taylor Swift song, which has been so fun to follow along. What is your Taylor Swift song or era for moving forward into this next stage of your life?
This is an excellent, excellent question. I'm in an undefined era of Taylor Swift. But no, truthfully, like, it's still, like, I made the last song for the episode, like, what?
like I can do it with broken heart and truthfully like I'm still healing like I'm still mending and
like I'm happy that I get to have these moments in these interviews and on these shows where I can
like be happy but like I'm deeply like still hurt from the situation but I'm pushing through
and I'm still just going to be the best version of myself because I have to do that for myself
but yeah I am like hurting sometimes and that and that's okay but as soon as like I if I just keep
believing that I'm going to be happy, then I'm going to be happy.
And it's all going to work out.
I know that.
Yeah.
Got to feel pain and feel joy.
Okay.
Well, that's a beautiful job.
Way to follow up her really beautiful words with that cheesy quote.
Jen, thank you so much for joining us on Happy Hour.
Thank you for having me.
I love being here.
We love having you.
I'm rooting for you on dancing.
Thank you.
Okay.
I need tips, Joe.
What am I supposed to be doing here?
just have fun lean into it and and have it's so but it's so don't let the day of
yeah destroy you because it's such a stress it's very stressful like it's very stressful you're
going to be anxious like really just kind of like lean into the fact that it's a stage you're
there to perform and just do your best and enjoy it and have fun because like there were so
many like I was really bad but there were so many moments where I'm like I wish I would have just
had a little more fun and got out of my own head because it overall it's such a great experience
and you only get to do it once and you look back and you're like that was so much fun I wish I
enjoyed it a little more you know okay made it far what do you mean you weren't I mean but yeah
that's because people kept voting for me or honestly or just take a shot of whiskey I mean I also
did that so okay I'll be taking a shot at
killable for my dances. There you go.
Shot o'clock. There you go. John, thank you so much
for coming on, Bachelor Happy Hour. We really
appreciate it so much.
I love
being both, so I'll come back soon.
Yeah, come back soon. You've been a
phenomenal lead, and it's been so much fun
chatting with you throughout the season.
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