Bachelor Happy Hour - Jesse’s Bachelor Nation Hot Takes

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Jesse Palmer stops by to talk about EVERYTHING going on in Bachelor Nation. From the fans’ reaction to Joey being named the Bachelor to why Jesse is so excited for everyone to finally see “The Golden Bachelor” (this Thursday at 8 p.m. on ABC), nothing is off the table in this week’s episode. Plus, Jesse shares how he knew Charity and Dotun were the real deal, why we should all expect the unexpected this summer on the beaches of “Paradise,” and so much more. Be sure to follow so you don’t miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jesse Palmer in the studio, even though we're not in the studio. Jesse, how you doing? Welcome to the podcast. I'm doing awesome. I'm awesome. How are you guys? Congratulations. First off. I know we were talking about it a little bit before we got started, but the wedding in Charleston looked absolutely amazing. Thank you. It was. It was great. We're still recovering. Also, congratulations to you and Emily. Baby girl. Baby girl on the way. Baby girl on the way in January. I know all the feels,

people. That's amazing. All the feels excited, freaked out. Did you want, like, did you have a strong feeling boy or girl like did you have a prediction or one that you were hoping for well the the odds in Vegas had boy and it was pretty it was pretty heavy at Vegas because in my family it's just boys I have two brothers I have four nephews like don't make girls in our family so that's why I was really hoping it was going to be a girl and when we found out it was a girl I was just so excited and then and then it was kind of like right away I thought like what do I how do I do this I don't have a sister. I don't know. I don't have any experience being a girl dad. I'm going to have to figure this out on the fly. But I am so thrilled. So thrilled. You're going to be an amazing

girl dad. You're the girl dad of Bachelor Nation, the girl and boy dad of Bachelor Nation. I'm like Uncle Jesse of Bachelor Nation. Yeah. Yes. There you go. Yeah. I know how to handle drama. At least I figured that out. You know way more about girl drama than most dads do. Well, does Emily have any siblings? She's got a sister and a brother and she's got nieces. Emily's so ready for this. She's locked and loaded. Like baby's going to be speaking Portuguese before she speaks English.

I'm putting a tennis racket in her hand by the third week. Oh, yeah. There you go. Yeah. So it's, you know, we got small parts of it, I think, figured out. But I knew from the day I think I met Emily, I knew she was going to be an amazing mom. she just has that natural maternal instinct that you can just sort of feel and see anytime there's a little baby near us Emily just takes over and it's just it's amazing to watch so I was really hopeful when I met her that

I wanted to have a family one day and it was important to to meet someone that I knew it was going to be a great example to our children Emily's absolutely that I feel pressure now to live up to Emily and kind of her standard you know you go through like I've thought about it so many times insecurities and am I going to be enough? Am I going to know what to say? The other day, we just had like, Emily and I have these crazy conversations all the time where we're sitting at the table and I'm like, you know, I think it's really important that we teach our daughter about integrity. And she's like, that sounds great. How do you do that? Truly. Well, integrity is like doing what you say you're going to do, right? She's like, yeah. So like give an example. And I'm like, I'll get back. I'll get back. I'll think about that.

Just things that you would never think about until you're in the position. Like, I can honestly say I've never thought about what it looks like to teach your child about integrity. Yeah. It's, I don't know. It's, you know, I think all I can do, you know, and Emily and I say this is let's just love our daughter as much as we can. Let's just pour so much love on her and just figure it out. And obviously, we have our own upbringing and, you know, things my parents did and things her parents did. and try to incorporate the stuff we love

and leave out the stuff you don't and just try our best. But just, you know, I'm just so excited to love this little girl and figure it out, make mistakes because I have zero idea what I'm doing. Like zero idea. Yeah, you're going to make a lot of mistakes, I feel.

I feel like Emily will, well, she'll carry the load on this one. I think so. No, as long as you love your daughter, which you already do, you're going to be great parents. and she's going to be beautiful. We're so excited for you guys.

I hope she's feeling okay. I know like the first trimester can be tough, but hopefully you guys are in the more fun phase of prepping. Yeah, the golden trimester, the second trimester. Emily's been a rock star, man. She's been, she's been awesome. She's really, she's just, you know, I'm kind of always like walking on acing shelves around her like,

is this the day? Is this the day? It hasn't happened yet. Emily's been, I think that she's still, likes me so we're good that's great how yeah i was going to say how does she handle you i mean you've got to be wildly busy now football started as well so you're constantly going how's she doing with that yeah she's she's been great yeah joe from from the beginning um in our relationship she's always been super understanding uh which i appreciate so much she has given me so much

space to focus and prioritize work and one of the things i'm really excited about now is is to put that priority and focus on family and make more time. Like, I need to slow down. I just need to do that anyway. I'm not good at that. I'm go, go, go. It's like a quarterback in a two-minute drill all the time. I'm just constantly tempo.

You're everywhere. If there's an event, Jesse's there. Jesse Pauler is headlining every event. And that's going to have to stop. That's going to have to change. And this is going to do it. Like, I really feel like now the focus can, come back to Emily and the

baby and our family and I'm so excited about that Emily's given me all the space in the world for the last five, six years to do anything I wanted to do work-wise. Now I'm just excited to kind of hone in on this. Nice, nice. Well, before, oh,

I got one question for him that you wouldn't ask. I'm assuming it's football related. This is the wrong podcast. Clothing related. Let's go. Let's go. National champion prediction. College football? College football.

I'm going to go. It's going to be like I'm going to say like just because we always say Georgia Alabama Ohio State going off off the rail Florida State Michigan and I'm going to go Michigan this year just just for a different take you want to know what I think yes and I and I don't buy I don't buy into all the the noise even though I am from the Midwest I'm going to Notre Dame I like it because because you guys can throw the ball this year Serena Notre Dame for the first time in a long time is really exciting to watch offensively

they're throwing it all over the yard. They have this quarterback named Sam Hartman. He's great. He's lighting it up. Joe's happy. You're going to make my brother happy. My brother played for Notre Dame. So now Palmer House still it's fired up. Good. Joe's going to yeah, I like it. As much as

I'm sure all of our listeners are here to listen to college football predictions, I'm going to make a little pivot. Let's, before we get into all the exciting things coming up in Bachelor Nation, we have to talk about a quick note on Charity's finale. Jesse, Charity and Dotten. We've got the two lovers out and about.

How did that finale go for you? How do you feel about Charity and Dotten? Are you excited? Yeah. Well, it was great. First off, it was great having you both there, too. And I'm sure you felt it. I mean, it just felt like a positive night all night long.

It was just a lot of really good energy. You know, it was just, it felt like, I felt like Oprah. We were like constantly giving people things. and it was just a really good feeling. Not us, by the way. Not us. Every time we're sitting there, I'm always like, come on, give me, let's go. We're going to get.

I'm like, we have a hiding room coming up. We'll take a trip to Greece. We want a free cruise. Yeah, exactly. I know. I know. You know, it was like for Charity and Dot, I know how excited they were for that day to finally come and to be able to walk out there together as a couple and not keep it a secret

anymore um i remember when we were filming men tell all charity and i were backstage and you know i was looking at her and i'm like how you're hanging in any gath left in the tank i mean i'm still a few weeks ago this is like the hardest time and she said i just cannot wait for after the final road to walk out there with my man and just live my life with them and she would have our families there so i think that celebration of their relationship and their love and having all those people having people like you there, I think made it so special. From the beginning to end, when I think back to their journey together, anytime I spoke to charity off camera and you mentioned the name Doughton,

face just lit up. You're kind of like, okay, well, it could be this person or this person, but really, like, deep down inside when I saw her visceral reaction to just saying his name, I thought in the beginning, I thought, I think it's not, who from the beginning really got it kind of got off to a slower start than some of the other guys. Didn't have a one-on-one date early. It was, you know, it was kind of a, it's something that progressed and happened later,

but they're just so right for each other. They're just, their story, I think, is magical. I could not be happier for her to see her dreams come true like that and to meet such a wonderful guy. And to celebrate that all together with so many people, a Bachelor nation in the audience like yourselves, for me, was really special. I thought it was great.

I started out. Yeah, yeah. They're such a beautiful couple. And I think you hit the nail on the head. Like, it was just such a positive night. like everyone was so happy so excited for them and also so excited for our new bachelor joey who i think you start filming the season soon right yeah that's to joe's point earlier that is coming up very very quickly it's right around the corner um and and super thrilled you know

i remember uh seeing him a few weeks ago as well like right before afr and you know kind of saying to him, hey man, like, are you, you know, he had just found out, like, are you, are you ready to be The Bachelor? Like, dude, your life's going to change. And he was like, man, I'm just trying to come up for air right now on everything that just happened with charity. Like, I'm just getting back home, all the stuff that the show's on TV. Like, I think his world was like just going like a thousand miles a minute. Um, but I, I, at least since I've been hosting for the last two years, I don't think there's ever been from a fan standpoint or national nation standpoint, a more unanimous choice to be the bachelor or bachelor?

I just told Serena that before the podcast. Yeah, I agree. It feels like that, right? It's like in the past, it's like 10% want this person, 20% that one, 13% that one. And so you never really make everybody happy based on whoever you pick. I feel like this is like a grand slam choice. Totally. Yeah. And he's a great dude. Like he deserves it. He, you know, great guy. think he has all the characteristics and the qualities you're looking for he was heartbroken after that goodbye and feeds you with charity

he really was he had fallen in love with her and was really hoping that was going to be it that was the one I know it took him time to get past that but hopefully he has had some time to kind of settle down and just collect himself emotionally

I think is the most important thing because it's all about to take off I seldomly get DMs on social media from people wanting to be on someone's show, I am getting flooded by women that saw him be chosen as The Bachelor and are now like, I've got to get on. I've submitted my application. Is there any way I can go to the front of the line? Can you get me in front of a producer? Which, of course, I can't. Like, that's a conflict of interest. I can't. Like, I have no, that's one of the biggest misconceptions about this is that I get to choose, A, who the Bachelor is,

who goes to Paradise, and who can come on the show. That's where. That's where. Wow. People really think you're like running everything, Jesse. No, like literally I walk in the room. It's the final roast tonight. I walk out. That's all I do. That's all I have to do. Everyone's like Jesse Palmer must be the head of casting as well. I got no power. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills. And I get eye rolling. from teachers or I get students

who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it, if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like,

like go you, go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving. Meditating. It takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivot. Now on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel like Joey's Joey was the right choice, and it's going to be pretty smooth for you. I mean, they really threw you in the wool stand with Clayton right away and then following it up with Gabby and Rachel. I mean, you had a wild, a wild beginning. It was good. Yeah, you got to just kind of get into the fire.

And all three of them were awesome. know, and it was just, you know, but when you watch the show on TV and then you finally get, you know, you get out there and kind of, you do it, there were some memorable and some obviously wild moments. So, you know, we'll see how it goes with Joey. I mean, you never know. I'm sure there'll be no shortage of chaos with Joey either. All right. So you've been doing this now. You've been now that we're going on two years. And now there's a brand new show, the Golden Bachelor that you guys just, you guys just filmed. And it's now about the air. How, how. How. How. How. was that was it what you expect it like yeah let's give a little bit of a yeah it's like it's funny um i didn't really know what to expect yeah we had i had a lot of questions and like like like execution questions like not even big picture things but more like hey like on the first night which is the longest night in tv that first row ceremony we've all been there starts at seven ends at eight a m yeah like with a 72 year old guy like are we going to take naps are we going to are we going to get, is it they're going to be over by like midnight? Yeah. How amazing would that be? Uh,

are there going to be fantasy sweets? Like, is there going to be intimacy? Is that like going to happen? Like, do I have to have that talk with them? Like, are Gary and I going to break it down? How awkward is that going to be? It's like talking to your dad when you're a kid like about the birds and the it's like all the things that I already see the Viagra hand, right? I already see the Viagra right now. It's like slow hanging fruit. It's right there. Yeah. And so it was, but I I got to say, I think we were all kind of learning as we were going throughout filming. The most important part and the magic behind all of it, I know we all know this, is it's the people. And Gary's a rock star.

Gary's amazing. He's such a sweet guy. He's had this incredible life. He's lived so much. He's got so much knowledge. He's so emotionally intelligent. He's so good with his words. He's the best I've ever seen since I've been hosting at walking in the room before a row ceremony and addressing the ladies.

just the things he says it's eloquent it's it just hits the nail on the head he's he was he was just so ready for this he's experienced unbelievable tragedy and lost in his life and he's ready for this opportunity to to find his person the women were amazing the women are amazing and you're going to see that night one I knew right away as soon as these women got out of the limo I was like this is this is a home run these women are awesome every other show every bachelor show i've hosted i watch or bachelorette i watch people get out of the limo night one they get to the mansion they're freaking out uh rightfully so there's cameras everywhere you know you've never been in that environment you forget what you're going to say when you walk up to

the person you forget your name you do that you might have to do it again take another take all the stuff every single one of these women came out of a limo guys and they they flushed it so confident, so confident. Like they were rolling up. They had their spiel. They had their stick. They said what they wanted to say. They were flirty. They were, whatever they were doing. It was like one after another, after another, after another.

And I was just standing there thinking, this is incredible. Like, it's just, it was wild. Just to kind of see that different dynamic in front of the mansion in a familiar setting that we've seen over and over and over again. But I think the cast is what's really going to make this season so special in unique because they everybody was amazing was there ever a moment during the season where you kind of just like looked looked on to the the group of women and thought like this is so similar but what the fuck is happening like this is yeah like you know yes it was the first it was the first

date card drop off so it's the morning after the very first row ceremony you're going in and it was like that giant couch full of grand like your grandmas that talk a lot yeah and it's like your Italian nana who's just sitting there and she's like telling you all the stuff and she's like like first off walking in the house the kitchen smelled amazing it was the best of the kitchen you have legendary like these women were cooking up a feast they were all in there and it was like sunday sauce and they're doing all their like and they're all helping each other and plating it was like you go in on the bachelorette first night all the dudes are in there like hung over and it smells like burnt eggs and like mimoses it's brutal this was it smelled

way better but then get in there and seeing them all and you like ask them one question and you're just going to get an answer from this woman and then like 17 of them get a turn and they're taking it off and they're asking me questions and where did you grow up yeah you look like you have a nice mom I bet you I bet you have a nice yeah I was going to say are you getting any oh jesse you're such a cute boy like any of that yeah yeah squeezing the cheeks and like little you're such a good kid you got a very you got a very nice voice that boy jesse he's got a nice voice he's real you're walking out you're like whoa you're like what just happened it was a completely different vibe to it it's just very loving and nurturing women who who have kids a lot of them have

grandkids yeah i mean they're just that's just who they are and they're just very They're just very loving people. And so it was really nice to be in that kind of environment. I'm so excited to get to meet some of them. But we got to see some drama, right? I mean, some of them, even though they're probably wonderful, just great women, some of them got to be ready to roll. I agree.

But yeah. So, like, that was one of the things I was wondering, too, Joe. I was like, okay, well, surely, like, a 70-year-old woman's not going to fall for the same stuff that a 22-year-old does on the show. like they've got more emotional stamina to deal with this and sure not like sure enough after a few days

it all falls apart put a bunch of women in a bunch of bunk beds in the house you know and all of a sudden you know it just some stuff happens and some of it gets brought to Gary's attention and he's kind of like like what are

do I have to moderate this like how are we handling all this and he did a phenomenal job but you know there'll be some themes that i think people at home will be very very very familiar with when they're watching i'm going to say i'm excited to see like the parallels between like it's the same format it's the same show like it's the bachelor just with a different generation of cast yeah so like the things that are like like you said like coming in for the first date card and they're all sitting on the couch and like seeing those similarities but then also how it unfolds differently because of the differences in the cast

is there anything that you learn from doing the Golden Bachelor that maybe you're going to take in to your time on the Bachelor and the Bachelorette moving forward? Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. It's always one of those things I feel like

you get done shooting it and then you kind of think back on it a little bit. The show will come out on there. You'll sort of watch yourself back and see all the things that happened. I don't know. I don't know for me personally if there would be like a stylistic change in anything that I do moving forward. I think more than anything, I'm just going to really appreciate sort of the moments that I had and the advice I got.

You know, normally I'm the one giving people some advice, what I think you should do in a situation or, you know, if I ever have a little remedy from something that happened in a past relationship for me, I had nothing I could tell Gary or any of these women on love, on intimacy, on anything like that. I'll tell you, Jesse, Jesse, we say that line, Jesse. You could do so much better. Really feel it. Feel it this time. Please say your goodbyes. Always is Jesse constantly breaking down at ITMs. Like, I had so much confidence going into the season.

It's so true. It's like they, they just, they were giving me advice. And Gary had me on the edge of my seat talking about love and relationships. And, you know, I want to have the love with Emily. that Gary had with Tony for decades. You know, he found that, he had that. And he would, he would tell me, you know, I'd ask him while we're on camera, too sometimes. Just, hey, man, like, what do I have to do to find that?

Literally had me on the edge of my seat. And so I think more than anything, just be appreciative of some of the wisdom that was imparted from everybody, from the men and the women. You know, they told me very early. I don't know if it'll be on camera, but like on that first day, the day the car drop-off, They were like, we can teach you a lot of stuff, you know. Like, we know you just got married. Like, you should be asking me questions.

And I'm like, you're right. Yeah, probably should. Oh, my gosh. That's so funny. Okay. So we have the Bachelor, the Bachelorette, the Golden Bachelor. And now Bachelor in Paradise. This is, correct me if I'm wrong.

This is your second Paradise? Second Paradise. Second Paradise. All right. So how was it? How'd it go? Man, it was, you know, it was wild and crazy. You're both paradise experts, obviously.

You know all about it. The thing I've learned second time around year two, and this is becoming a theme, is on the first day when I'm at the steps, and everybody's showing up, and you talk to them, and you greet them, and you send them down the stairs. What I always am finding now is that everybody has it figured out

when they show up to paradise. I feel like people sort of, people kind of sometimes get this preconceived idea, of I know who's going to be there, I know who I'm going to meet, this is the person I'll be interested in, this is the person I need to date, and then I'm just going to, you know, we'll get engaged at the end if it goes well for me and if not, you know, obviously I'm going home. And what I've learned is, is more often than not, things don't paradise the way you think it's going to happen.

I always say that's the biggest mistake that people can do. And I think maybe it's just because we are an example of how, like, you know, that doesn't work because we went down with like not knowing each other is going to be there and different expectations. But I just feel like any time you see people, you watch them go down with very specific plans and expectations and thinking they know how things are going to go. It's just like you want to shake them and be like, it's not going to go like that. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.

I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adapted strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like go you, go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way avoidance is easier ignoring is easier denial is easier drinking is easier yelling screaming is easy

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the problem, you can go so much further. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the ad council have resources available for you at loveyourmindtay.org. that's what I was going to say that's why I think our season was so successful as far as relationships and coming off of it because there was that break right there was that COVID break so you had a full year where we didn't have paradise so even if you went in there with a plan you had to be cautious like who's going to be there is they dropped me down there no one no one had any clue I was even alive you know like it's just but like that's that's the thing like when you go into paradise in my opinion When you go into paradise with a strong plan, that is the biggest mistake. When people are at the top of the steps looking super confident on what's about to happen for them, it just makes me so nervous. You're right. I feel the same way, and I could feel it too.

And you sort of ask the questions, who you hope it's down there, who do you want to meet? And they just have it. They have the answers. And you're right. I think the more open-minded you're able to be and more willing to have conversations and spend time with people, from what I've seen two years now hosting it is those are generally the relationships that work out. And one thing I would tease for people at home this season,

the couples that are going to be there together at the end are probably not on your bingo card going into this season. But that's probably why they're successful too. The people were willing to open, open their eyes, give people chances, take their time through it without going in. You know, it's a round peg. It's going to fit in a round toll. And that's the only way this is going to work for me.

Because Paradise is very unpredictable. as we all know from the original cast this season who are you personally most excited to see uh rachel for one and the reason why is because uh obviously you know having having been there on her season with gabby um and on her season with clayton like rachel's been through a lot of stuff on the show there's been some some um some moments that she's experienced that i think are probably pretty traumatic

there's the roast ceremony from hell in Iceland she went through the rose ceremonies of bachelor at where she was offered people roses and getting rejected so you know Rachel's been through a lot and she's coming back in right I think a lot of people Joe feel the same way and I could kind of tell when Rachel was walking down the steps there was a little bit of trepidation

like I'm going back into this again you know and I have these experiences and what's going to happen Rachel is such a rock star And she I really feel like I saw The Rachel that we saw in the beginning of Clayton season You know, just when she was just open And she was hopeful

And it was so great Great seeing that side of her Because I get it She went through some really, really tough things That would scar anybody emotionally And the fact that she was even willing to like show up on the beach again I thought was so brave So I was really, really happy to see her

Another person who I'm really happy to see And I know people have mixed feelings on this But Braden Paradise is built For Brayden Like Therina, is this not his wheelhouse? It absolutely is When he was on

He's a TV maker Like you need you need a Brady Yeah, you need a Brayden You need a quirky out there personality Someone with no filter He's a major flirt Like Paradise was made for Brayden Once the minute we realized it was never going to work it with him in charity, we were like, it's fine.

We'll see him in Paradise. He's the first lock. You have to. He's got a suitcase full of earrings. Like, he's so ready. He's got the scarves. He's got the hats. I remember, you know, I spoke to them in the Palapa.

You know, that first time where you gather everybody up, you're in the Palapah. It's like, hey, here are the rules of Paradise. Now go check out your bunk beds. It's like, and everybody kind of runs to their rooms. And everyone's on the beach and they're kind of all walking. Braden's like 20 yards out of front of everybody. like literally frolicking in the sand like he was like skipping and like like just like splashing kicking like the waves of his feet he was in his happy place no doubt and and probably pretty

predictable you knew he was going to be thriving down there on the beach seeing um see going uh focusing a little bit on you real quick because i know uh we're running out of time here but seeing you live like you're you're so good like you never like watching you host like you never have to like you really never have to re-say anything like you're just you are so good do you ever get nervous on any of these shows is there ever a moment because i was just thinking when you mentioned like walking in and talking to everyone for the first time in the plop but like is there ever a moment on any of these shows that you get a little flustered every time i talk to anybody i'm nervous really it's like when i play yeah it's like when i played

football but it it makes me feel good because i care and if i didn't care i wouldn't i wouldn't to be nervous, right? That's exactly what well said to us about our wedding. About our vows, yeah. He's like, I try to reframe nerves as like, if I'm nervous, I really care about something and it's important to me and that's a good thing. Yeah, and it's like I feel ready, I feel prepared, you know, I take it really seriously. I love my job.

I love my job. But being out there, the energy of live shows with an audience is awesome. You know, as former athlete, we're always struggling to find the thing that's going to give us the rush that we had when we were on the field in a stadium and sort of in that rush. And it's so hard for us to do anything in our careers afterwards to define that again. Live TV delivers that for me a thousand percent. But it helps me so much when I get to see people like you and you see familiar faces in the audience. And Bachelor Nation, like fans that care about it. Everyone's there, you know, to kind of witness what's going to happen and everyone's invested in it.

And so for me, like, I'm always nervous. I'm nervous when I'm talking to cast. I'm nervous all the time. But it's just because it matters to me. And I want to be good at it. And I want to serve everybody. Like I want people at home and people in the audience and the cast to feel like, you know, they're getting a great effort. And because they deserve that, I think.

Well, you better put that effort into your daughter. That's all I have to say, Jesse. Oh, my God, Joe. Jesse, thank you. Wait, I have one more cast. I want to ask him about really quickly. Eliza, we were personally very surprised to see her return to paradise after her experience on last season. You know, she was kind of in that messy love triangle.

The reunion was definitely a tough spot for her to be in. Were you surprised to see her coming back? Yes. And exactly what you just said. I asked her when I saw at the top of the steps again. And kind of another, you know, have you had time to recover from that? You know, where's your headspace coming into this? Not a lot of people would do what you're doing right now considering everything that's happened.

But Eliza trusts the process. And she was hopeful that she could meet someone and she wanted to come back and give it another shot. I give her credit for that. Yeah, that's not an easy thing to do. So I hope it works out for her second time around. You know, you never know. Worked out for you second time around. It did.

It did. Look at this. Look at this. Yeah, I totally forgot about her. Yeah, because I remember, I remember her at the reunion show for Paradise. And I was like, this is rough. Yeah. This one's rough. Well, and to your point, too, it's like, I remember talking to people, hey, who are you excited to see here?

You didn't hear Eliza's name come up a lot, not because people didn't want to meet her, because I don't think a lot of people expected her to be there. Totally. For sure. You know what I mean? And so I think when she hit the beach, like there were, you know, Eliza's obviously a very, you know, she's very beautiful. there were a lot of guys like as soon as she walked down dude's eyes were like lighting up very excited that she was there yeah i bet nice wall i can't wait to watch we're very excited we've got two very exciting seasons coming our way followed by the bachelor no shortage of bachelor nation

content ever no it's great um jessey thank you so much for uh taking the time we really appreciate it can't wait to watch uh everything you're doing and you know i'm gonna watch you game day and i'll all the football. Thank you so much. To all our listeners, thank you guys for tuning in Happy Hour. Make sure to watch the Golden Bachelor in Paradise September 28th. We can't wait. Thank you guys. And make sure to subscribe. Yep. We'll be dropping new episodes with exclusive interviews just like this one every single week. And we will see you soon. Thanks again, Jesse. Bye. Bye. See you guys. Thanks.

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