Bachelor Happy Hour - Jill’s Back and Better Than Ever! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we have Jill Chin returning to chat all things “Paradise” and more! Our fan favorite is here to reminisce about her time on the beach. We hear her thoughts on all the drama, fun moments with Kathy, and how she feels about her departure. We also get some exciting dating and life updates from Jill! Then, we start our advice portion with the question of the day: Would you rather have constant butterflies or constant comfort in a relationship? Plus, Jill offers some advice to a listener struggling with deep-seated insecurities. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Make sure to check out all of our past episodes because we've been having so much fun. answering your questions. So keep them coming at bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Okay, today we have a very special guest joining us, one of our first returning guests and Bachelor in Paradise fan favorite. Jill Chin is here. Hey, Jill. Hi, Jill. You look so different not on the beach. I know. Like worse or better? Tell me. No, you look amazing. And I thought, let me just get this out you were nothing but class i i'm sorry that you cried like you did but i admired you and you were being real and honest with yourself thank you congratulations when i watched it back i was like wow it was sadder than i thought it was going to

be like i thought it was like a girl boss moment like okay yeah like i'm going to leave on my court and it was like kind of pathetic i was like oh my god did jill do you remember me coming up to you going, wait a minute, wait a minute, you're leaving because I overheard you. And I was like, what? You said, I know. Tell us what you said? Do you remember that? No, it's all a blur. What did I say? Tell me. You were just like, I hate being friend zoned here. I've just, I'm everyone's friend. This isn't good for me. It's not healthy. And I was like, but stay. And you went there to find love, right? Not somebody's friendship. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And I feel like I can see i have like i can see what's going to happen so you know what's what's going to happen is

sean going to give me his rose probably not like why am i going to why do i even want sean's rose do i even like sean yeah how do you feel about that now reasons yeah i feel oh i feel absolutely fantastic i feel like i made the right choice how does it feel feeling all the love from bachelor nation and all of us after leaving it honestly it's been such a crazy experience getting all of the messages and how many people resonate with me and it's honest because I've never really had that from Bachelor Nation. Usually it's all like criticism and you're so blah, blah, blah. But no, this time I feel like it was the most kind of accurate to how I felt and, you know, people are seeing kind of the real emotions and I'm always going to keep it real with you guys.

So, yeah, no, it's been, it's been really heartwarming and yeah. Because there's a lot of people out there that feel the same way you did in situations. You know, they resonate with that. And how do you feel about all the comments people saying you should be the next bachelorette? Oh, my God. I tell them to be quiet. Oh, is that something you would not do then? I don't think I would, no.

Wait, before you say no, wait, before you say no, Jill. Wait, before she says no, I got an idea. Okay. We did Paradise together, right? Golden, then yeah. How about you be the Bachelorette and I'll be the Golden Bachelorette. We'll do one show with two bachelettes. I like where this is going. We should definitely pitch this. No, do share. Why would you consider not doing it? What would you? I mean, I've been a Bachelor Nation for four-ish years now and I haven't found a single guy that I could see myself with. That would be my fear. It just takes one. It just takes one, Jill. I know, but still. Like, I, I feel like the next guy that you, everybody knows about will be my husband. Like, I'm not going to, I just can't do it anymore. Like, it's, I mean, obviously, would it be a fabulous opportunity?

Yes, but like, I'm also like, I got things to do. Like, I got to, like, I'm 30. Like, we've got to get this thing rolling, you know? I don't know. Wait a minute. Wait, so you're going to keep your private life private. I hear you. So, are you dating?

I am dating. Yes, of course I'm dating. Oh, tell us. We want to hear. Tell us all about your private license. You don't want to share. Well, I mean, like, I'm dating. Okay, so here's the stupid thing.

So I haven't done the dating apps since college, literally. So I've really never done the dating app. So I downloaded a hinge. Oh, my God. I was told there was going to be hot people. There was going to be cool people. As far as I can tell them, the best one on there. Like, I'm telling you, it's been such a struggle.

Like, I hate it so much. It's like a job, isn't it? It's like a full-time job. I'm like, all right, I got three dates this week. I got this guy next week. This guy I got to check it with. And I'm like, I just can't. So, yeah, but I am dating, obviously.

Well, how did you meet the date? Like, what, give us the juice? Oh, well, there's like, there's been a couple. There's been a couple, you know, ponies in the stable, if you will. But I take it you're not serious about anyone yet. Well, maybe I am, but I'm just not going to tell you guys. Oh, okay. All right.

Have you had more than one date? with the same person? Of course. She's not a, she's not a serial dateer. I want to get back, since you're not going to share it, I want to get back to some paradise because I want, I want to get the tea on this. What is your thoughts on all the drama in paradise since, you know, since you left and, you know, all of it. Jeremy's phone call, everything that to Susie, just all of the drama. What do you think about it? Well, I mean, it's like you could see these things kind of bubbling beneath the surface. And now that the money is involved, it's, you know, getting pretty cut throat. I don't know if Brian. I'm not sure if Brian would have told Bailey. I think someone had

to. My God. Wait, do you mean Jeremy? Do you mean you're not sure of Jeremy would have told Bailey? Brian didn't. I don't know if Brian. I don't know if Brian would have if the competition element wasn't involved. I don't know that. Maybe he would have, maybe not. It was a great opportunity. for him to do that. I would say it was a good play. But again, like, you're taking people who aren't, you know, who didn't sign up for a competition style show to play in this competition. So, I mean, the whole Jeremy thing. I, okay. I hate to say this, but. There's no one listening but us, Jill. Go ahead. Right. No. Yeah, it's an echo chamber. But like I, and I've told him to this to his face, I don't really care for Jeremy. I've said it on the time. Can I? I can't tell you, but there are some people that I will not, you know, I can't out other people, but I can tell you, you are not alone in that comment. I know, and it's like whatever, like, you know, I met him in person and he wasn't that and really nice to me.

He's, I think he's one of those people that is only nice to women that they find attractive or they, you know, or they care to know about. They care, right, or like it thinks that's worthy of their time. So that's fine. But I have always. Well, you're gorgeous. So, thank you. So you're friends with Susie.

Have you guys talked about all the drama that that took place about her? Of course we have. Yes. Of course we have. Which is so funny. Like she's like I was on the show for like 24 hours and this narrative just continues throughout. Which is interesting. And I also, I mean, I feel terrible because it's like, you know, she's being mentioned a lot but she can't speak her own truth.

You know, it's like she's just being talked about rather than being able to like. like, you know, say things herself. I think, well, I don't know. I think Jeremy was a bit delusional because he's like, oh, you know, like, I'll just, I'll just propose. Wait, wait, but let me just back up. You think a guy is delusional for calling a woman that he's talked to for, let's call it, 10 minutes and saying, I'd get down on a knee and propose her.

You think that sounds like a delusional guy? I don't know, Jill. Oh, man, I know. It's, right. it's which is like I don't know what he's thinking but also it's like she turned you down brother we're going to marry her yeah I just it didn't make any sense to me it's never made any sense to me Bailey's such a catch like out of Jeremy's league so it's like let's go with that like she is so deserving but um you know like god I I hope that these obviously I wish the best

for everybody and I hope everything works out. Do I, like, you know, in my practical mind, do I think that all of these relationships are going to work out? Probably not, you know, but lessons are learned along the way, and those are valuable too. Well, who do you wait? Who do you, which ones do you think have the best chance of working out? Sons are injest.

They've always been good, you know? They're so cute. They're so sweet. Is this the time? Wait, should I break the news now that Keith and I are engaged? That's what I was going to say. I was like, maybe you and Keith, maybe you and Keith. Or like Jonathan and Leah.

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two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandarin all over the place. The turfs. And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo. To see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. The American public is used to being entertained.

We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them. And they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop politics. on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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There's a lot of love that flows through this place, and it's sincere. Now it's a personal mission. Don't have to go to any more funerals, you know. I got blown up on a React mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth?

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I need your honest opinion with the man code and everybody was mad at Brian for telling him. Did you respect him for doing that? Yes, of course I did. And do you feel like he did it for the wrong reasons, like you said earlier? Or he really did care about her? I can't tell. Brian's hard to read.

Brian's another one where I'm like, also the shout out to brian's family brian's family loves me so i can't really say to think about i love him i do i mean i'm not sure that there's a lot going on up there in sense of like i'm trying to manipulate a situation right wait wait with brian yeah oh my god okay i think that she's saying he wasn't doing it just to manipulate no i what she said there's not a lot upstairs there well okay i'm saying you know what i'm saying but in terms of like being a extremely manipulative. I don't really think that was his M.O. I think someone needed to tell Bailey and he had a good

opportunity to do it. So why not do it? And also he had a chip on his shoulder from Jeremy. So it's like if I wanted to get revenge, yeah, I would get revenge. I mean, and Jeremy, you know, saying, I mean, it's almost comical what Jeremy says, you know, I was going to tell her, but you know, I had to get a good night's sleep and I'm sitting there going, yeah, I was going to tell him. But, you know, had to wash my socks. I was going to tell her, but I had to write my grocery list.

I was going to tell her, but I was dusting my end table. Like, come on. Yeah, but it's eight days later. Eight days later, like, you're really going to wait the long. He's like, I didn't think it was relevant, but you kept bringing it up. I didn't know that it was still pervasive. I knew that there was like that he had maybe regretted his decision, but I didn't know that up until the night that I left that he was actively talking about this. I had no idea. It was like that. What about the Sean and Alicia? And have you talked to Sean since the show?

Yeah, I've talked to Shawnee. I've talked to Sean. I mean, okay, that whole thing is a mess. It's a huge mess. Whoa. And, whoa, huge mess. And it's only going to get messier from what I understand. Can I just say?

That's what it looked like on the previews. I have two things to say. I love the fact that. I am not involved in that. I'm proud of you, Kathy. I know. Yeah, I agree with you, Jill. It's messy. It's it's unkind. There's so many different, you know. And yet, both of those people were,

everyone was so kind to me on Paradise. I mean, they were lovely people to me and good conversations. So I'm sort of mentally sort of caught in the middle with that whole thing. I would agree I don't have a lot of experience with Alicia what I can say is like this is so tough because you know this is what I've had to learn

throughout my like my seasons or my time in Bachelor Nation is like you get so close to people within such a short amount of time but you've only really known them for like three weeks. Yes that's right but wait do you really know them that's right you don't really is the reality of it but all right

so we've covered what you think about others now I'm going to hit you up. Tell us about Jonathan. What really happened between you and, you know, what have you guys talked about with regards to all this, the drama, et cetera. What's going on? What happened? Spill the beans.

Well, okay. I mean, obviously we had a misunderstanding. Misunderstanding. I misinterpreted these things that he was saying to me with the information. Oh, you mean the one when he said I could maybe date you? You mean that one, Joe? when he said maybe I could date you. Yeah, he was like, oh, you're making my decision hard.

You make my decision hard or something. And I was like, oh, maybe this is a chint. After I just said, you know, like, are you open, blah, blah. So, of course, I misinterpreted that. Right. I mean, totally. Have you watched him? I mean, this is with everybody.

Yeah, I know. And like, and that was honestly, like, I feel so bad for Leah, but like that was, it was validating for me to kind of see the pattern unfold. Like, okay, he's maybe really not even trying. It's not you. Yeah, it's not me. I think that he hasn't really given anyone a fair shot. And it's like, I'm giving Sean a crack.

Like, come on. Like, I'm giving Sean a crack. This is me trying. This is me trying. It's like you can be surprised by people. Do I think that like Jonathan definitely shut things off like a little too quickly? I think because I think like we had a good like he said we had a good friendship. Brother, I've known you for a day.

Like we we don't really know each other. I don't know. This isn't a friendship. It's a friendship. And then, like, you know, and then he kissed me on the date and he says, well, you know, we kiss, we kiss friends. He's the, yeah, I kiss my friends. What? Well, Jonathan, if you're listening, I never got one from you.

So that argument does not hold water. And Jonathan, if you're listening, you and I are going to sit down. We're going to have a little talk. I don't know what's going on with him. Some therapy. Jonathan, you better, you better, you know, you better be careful because Susan does wield a baseball bat. Okay. I have to ask, wait, I have to ask her one question.

before because I don't want to run out of time to ask this. Okay. Did you learn anything? She took my question. Oh, I'm sorry. Since I was there and I'm a golden, I thought, you know, have you learned anything from the goldens that you've held on to while you're on Paradise? Oh my God.

Yes. I, first of all, I loved having the goldens there. I thought it was like, it was so fun. You guys brought the energy and like seeing the way that you were moving, the way that you guys moved throughout the journey and life is like so good. for us to be able to look up to. And I honestly should have used you guys as more of a resource because I was like spinning in my head and like not using you guys.

So I wish I used, you know, you guys as a resource more. But in having like, you know, some deep chats, it's like I got to see what, you know, some of you guys are divorced or have lost loved ones. And so it's like you get to see that perspective from, you know, like if they could go back or, you know, things that they. have learned from the later end of their relationships. I think we only think about like the budding early romance in paradise, but getting to kind of think about what happens at the end and how meaningful that is was, was really important.

So I really loved it. I really, it was so good. Is there anything you wish you would have done differently? Or you're happy with everything good? Then you were authentic. I'm so happy. Yes. I was, I was exactly myself.

I wouldn't change anything. I left when my, when it was my time, my sparkle was going. Yeah. Well, let me say it's, first of all, it's not too late. Call me anytime. Talk about, you know, always, always have an ear for that. But I also want to know, you were saying, I think I read or something that you wanted to see Alex. I can't even say his last name.

Oh, yeah. Brian Whitsman did, are you in contact with either of those guys? Yeah. Oh, no. Is there anybody wasn't there that you wish was there? Yeah, I wish either of them were there. But I, yeah. But, you know, there is a little thing, Jill, you could reach out to them.

You don't have to meet them on Paradise. No, I know. We have both of those people I have been in contact with in the past. And I'm pretty sure that they know that the door is open. Okay. But so I, it's not important. What is wrong with these guys, Susan? What is wrong with these guys?

You are beautiful. That's old saying that grass always looks greener on the other side. And then all of a sudden it turns brown and there's nobody left. Not all men, but can we just agree this morning that many men are just idiots? The fact that you are single blows my mind. I know. It's okay. There are like honestly, I'm in such a happy place in my life.

Like I turned 30. I've got some very exciting things coming up. and I'm just I'm happy and I am dating and it's fine and can I just say you're about the exciting things coming yeah yeah are you traveling so the funny thing is I can't and I love

when people I actually hate when people do this when they're like I got things happening but I can't tell you I know I hate that and I'm like but no I actually can't tell you guys but it's very exciting and it's actually my dream come true so it's so exciting and I can't wait

And, no, my dating life is good. It's actually really good. And I'm super happy. When will we find out this exciting news? What do we? I don't really know. I'll call her later and I'll get it out of. I'll let you know.

I actually don't know. I actually don't know. I'm like, I'm bound to secrecy, which is like the best guy to see. That is. That's so awesome. I'm a little envious. I want to know what it is. All right.

We've got to move on. We're going to go into our topic of the day. Okay. We're just going to ask a question. You're going to give your thoughts on it. Okay, Jill? All right. What matters more in a long-term partnership, being best friends or being head over heels lovers? Would you rather have constant butterflies or constant comfort in a relationship?

What says you? What do you think, Jill? I think that, oh, my God, that's so tough because you get the butterflies at the beginning and you get the head over heels at the beginning. But I think long-lasting being best friends and being able to be comforted by that person is, 100% more important. I agree, but I want both all the time. Of course you want both all the time, but God, you know, God doesn't give it with both hands. I know, but having your best friend is, yeah.

I think we can all safely, I mean, I think a long-term partnership, it evolves over time, and the butterflies, you know, the caterpillars turn into butterflies, the butterflies fly away, whatever it is. I think over time relationships change, so that's why I think. I always want to have that best friend.

I agree. But I like getting excited when he walks into the room, even a year later, like, oh, there's my man. You know, like, that's a good feeling. It is a good feeling. I think that there's a good mix, but, like, yeah, it ebbs and flows relationships, ebb and flow, and you have to, you know, sometimes you'll have that spark. Sometimes you don't, but as long as you're committed to one another and to making it work and the relationship as a whole, you're going to be fine. Absolutely. all right west west prop here from hood politics with prop podcasts you already know our get-down if you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle you understand politics much more than you giving credit for feds taking over american cities government hop-out boys hopping out the van snatching up your theo in them two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours jerry just out here mandering all over the place the turfs and of course the epstein of it all well this week we just

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and she's 36 and from Miami, Florida. From woman to woman, I've been really struggling with my body. Every time I look back at photos with my family and friends, I find myself critiquing how I look instead of enjoying the moment. I think that's just a female thing. This has been going on since I gave birth two years ago. And lately, I feel like there's no excuse to still look this way. Most of the people I know with toddlers have already lost their baby weight.

And it makes me anxious about the possibility of getting pregnant again. Though my husband and I want to give our daughters a sibling, I worry about how I'll look and feel after the second time. I know my body created life, blah, blah, blah, and I understand all the self-love narratives. But that doesn't stop me from feeling frustrated and unhappy with myself. I'd love some words of wisdom on cultivating self-rength. love. Does this struggle with our bodies as women ever truly go away as we get older,

or is it something we've just learned to live with? Well, Jill, since you've had four or five children, how did you feel after you first? That's what I'm like. I feel like I can't really comment on this. My best friend just said a baby, though, isn't their second baby, and she's kind of dealing with the same thing. And I would never blame anybody for taking, you know, measures to make themselves feel good and look good. I'm not saying like, you know, anything extreme, but if it's something little you can do, definitely do it. But I think that for me, I've heard this before that it's like, I've never seen somebody's body and thought about it for more than a second. I, like if someone's on the beach, like, you know, I'm always self-conscious

on the beach. I've never gone to the beach and seen a body that has stuck in my memory. You know, it's just not at the forefront of my mind and the people who judge are there's something deeply wrong with them I think that you know you can't have your body prevent you from doing from doing anything in your life especially you know if you want to have more kids or you know whatever I don't think that you I fully understand like like the self-consciousness and feeling like you know that that worry I totally understand it but there are things in life that you really can't control and there's something you can control and you have to kind of like pick and choose your battles there's a lot there's people out there with you know like physical disabilities that can't change their their situation and so there has to be that level of acceptance but i think you know like be kind to yourself you did you created life and it's like a beautiful thing and you should you should just enjoy it i agree and there's always place of surgery after the second one if you need it and it's going to make you feel better but it's about the self-love part yeah that for me came with maturity

Way later in life and love when I came off the Golden Bachelor. That was the first thing I said. I'm good with who I am. I'm comfortable in my own skin. Yes, I do the same thing, Carly, look at pictures and go, damn, I look good then. If I only knew what I know now and look like that, it'd be dangerous. So like it changes. It's normal.

It's life. And I feel like it's always the grass, like you said, the grass is always greener. I look at pictures of me from like two years ago. And I'm like, oh, my God, if I was only looking like that. But that time, I was looking at pictures two years ago. Right. You know, you have to like enjoy where you're at. Yeah, but I will say having children, I gained, I have three.

And I gained a lot of weight with each child, Carly. And I will say it took me almost a year to get off the weight with each child. And each one. Which is normal. Well, I have a lot of friends who, you know, a month later, were back in their skinny jeans and, you know, that wasn't me. I had a rough time. I get your problem here, Carly. I was exactly there. I had a really hard time getting the weight off. And what I would say to you is everything that Jill and Susan are saying, which is, you know, give yourself some grace and some time. But the other thing that might help you is just get on walk. Do something for yourself. 10 minutes. of exercise, that'll make you feel like you're moving towards your goal of getting back in shape, feeling better about yourself, because nobody can tell you to feel good about yourself if you don't. You're just not going to hear it, right? And I think as we get older,

things shift. Well, things shift, but you, like, I frankly look better now than I did when I was younger just because I work hard at it. So I don't think necessarily where she says, do we struggle with our bodies? Does it ever truly go away? I think that's up to the individual woman. It's a lot of women, I think, use getting older as an excuse. That's their choice to do it. Menopause is crucial, critical too. You know, for some people, it didn't bother me at all. That's what I'm saying. It's just everyone has their own journey. But I think, Carly, The biggest thing is be kind to yourself. As Jill said, you've brought this child into the world, and you don't want to look back

10 years from now and say, you know, so what, I was 10 pounds or 15 pounds more. I wished I'd had another child. And also know, Carly, that it is so normal. We all look good 10 years ago in our pictures, two years ago. It was a good picture, you know what I mean? But look where you are now. You have children. you gave birth and you're still hot you know you're hot in your own way you've got to feel good about

yourself yeah i think what helps me this is like the last thing i'll say but because i don't have kids but i think for me like whenever i'm feeling that way i think if everything is temporary like i'm like okay this is just the way that's that i look now and that's okay and it's going to change and so everything is temporary yeah i love that that is very good advice but carly be good to yourself and love yourself because and let us know if you get pregnant what you have because kids are great you know go from two to three maybe go and have four you know just go and you know they're fun babies are fun any questions you have for us before we have to uh oh my god that i have for you guys yeah okay so susan are you still with that french man yes yes well he's there and i'm here that's a

struggle, but yes, yes. Okay. And yeah, so how are you dealing with, like, the distance? It sucks. Yeah. Especially because he was due to come tonight. No. He canceled, yes. He couldn't, the gentleman, his friend that was going to watch his dog,

well, that guy was walking his own dog and he got in a fight with a stray and he got mange and it's really contagious. It was like a big thing. And I only found out a couple days ago and I was like, oh, it's like the inflating your balloon, you know? Yeah. And I don't know when the next time that I'll see him. So yeah, that part is not fun. That part's not fun. Okay. But so do you think like, do you regret not, like, you know, being in a relationship and not going on Paradise? No, he's a great man. Okay, good. Yes. I love to hear that. And he makes me feel good. You know, I love being around them. Kathy knows.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm sick. I'm sick of hearing about it, Susan. It's my turn. You know, literally like everybody who has like a happy relationship, I'm like, congratulations. I'm so happy. I'm so happy for many, many years. I'm so happy for you. Yes. Okay. Now I push it for Kathy.

Oh. Okay. So what did what was your perspective on Paradise and what would you tell the younger people there? About what question. About about about the way that we were acting. What you saw. Well, do you mean the drama or? getting to know guys. I mean, getting to. Okay, maybe like on how to like cultivate properly. Do you

think paradise is a place you can properly cultivate a relationship? Absolutely. I think that it is what I said to the young ones that I call them the youngans. I said to all of them use this time. You know, this is a rarity where you're you have no responsibilities. You don't have to cook, clean. You're not at your job. You have all this time to get to know someone, and this is just like a jump start of a relationship. But as you said, Jill, when you leave here and you jump back into the real world, you're going to have to manage things like money. You're going to have to find out where you're going to live. You're going to find out if you really are compatible when the pressures of the outside world face you. So my advice to all them was give yourself some grace and realize that things will change a little bit

when you go home, it doesn't mean it's good or bad. It's just there's going to be an adjustment period when you go home from paradise. And I think Jess is doing a good job of that because when she says, I don't know that I'm going to move right in with you immediately. Right. And that made me nervous because it was like a cliffhanger that one week. And then they talked about it. And he's such a sweetheart.

And he goes, we'll do it on your time. Right. You know, I'll be patient. But his friends are all getting married, having kids. And he wants to stay up with that so the kids can be. raised together. And I get it. Give her some space sometime. And I think there's several relationships

there that not necessarily our paradise, but overall over the seasons of paradise, that people have met and married and have great relationships. So it's like anything else in life. You know, you have to kiss a lot of frogs.

But it's a great opportunity to have these budding relationships and see where it goes. So yeah, I thought it was, I I think it's a great opportunity. I mean, I wish... I'm sorry. No, have you ever been on one where they threw money in it?

No. No, no, I've never been on one that they threw money on it. And people are like, do you regret not staying for the money? I'm like, that $500,000 was never going to be mine. Like, there's no way. Who is I going to be with Sean? Like, no. But wait.

It's not... No man is worth that money. I'm sorry. No, no, no. You're mixing it up. And I've said this repeatedly. Just because you... You have your relationships on one hand.

You have your money on the other, right? So during these challenges, depending on who wins, and it doesn't. Keith and I have a great relationship. We couldn't, half the time we couldn't get the answers right. So the money and the relationship are different in my book. You can still walk away from Paradise with no money and have a great love. I think you could conceivably walk away with Paradise with a lot of money and no relationship, of just the couple you had there coupled up.

So I don't necessarily think money and love go together in that environment. I think it was a big twist when they threw that in. And now towards the end and they're giving, you know, making you think twice. It's going to be love or money. So somebody, all else I could think of is somebody that I think is so in love is going to diss the other person and take the money. I wouldn't know that. That would be bad.

Keith and I had said, we've said it's been. aired on the show a couple of times, we had said we would never take money from kids. I mean, our... Oh, you're in a different situation. Well, no, because I've talked to a lot of my friends who are my age, they're like, are you crazy, Kathy? And I said, no, I'm not. Here's the thing.

At my age, connections and relationships with people are far more important to me than adding some more money to my bank account. Not for you, but they're 20, 30, you know. That's what I said. For young people, they want love. They're starting their lives. That's why Keith and I could never take the money. These young kids could use the money to pay off college debt by their first home.

All those things that to me would be such a good use of money. I hope that is your question. Yeah, no, it does. Jill, we love having you. You'll be back with us again, trust and believe me, because we love having you. And unfortunately, that does it for this episode. of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us

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