Bachelor Happy Hour - Joe & Serena Answer Fan Questions: Part 1

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” we’re playing catch-up with our hosts! Joe and Serena sit down to answer some of Bachelor Nation’s most-asked questions. From the reaction to hearing Jenn was the new Bachelorette to who from Bachelor Nation they’d pick to be stranded on a deserted island with, we’re getting into it all. Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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as politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we just wrapped up a great season of The Bachelor.

Joey has found love. And today we are going to do a bit of a catch-up episode. We're going to answer some questions that you guys sent in via our Instagram. We're going to answer questions about Joey's season. And questions about Bachelor Nation because there is a lot going on in Bachelor Nation. There's always a lot going on in Bachelor Nation, it feels like.

But yes, we have lots to chat about. And I feel like this is a good time to kind of do just like a catch-up fan questions episode because we just got back from, I guess, what you could consider a Bachelor Nation event. Marian Kenny's wedding. Yeah, Marian Kenny's wedding. Mari and Kenny's, well, not wedding, it was a party. It was like a wedding reception. A wedding reception, yeah.

Yeah. For those of you that may not know, Mari and Kenny met on the same season of paradise that Joe and I did. They also got engaged on the beach. And they've had, I guess, what you could consider four weddings this year. Because they got married. They had a wedding on Paradise, on the last season of Paradise. Yeah.

And then they had to get married in the course. courthouse. Then they had a wedding in Puerto Rico. And then this was their fourth and final wedding event of their year of weddings. Yeah, but I don't know if you consider the courthouse a wedding because courthouse is really, you have to do it to make things official. If you get married, if you have a destination wedding outside of the country, everyone needs to do it at the courthouse. 100%. But it's still like a wedding activity. Sure. You know, that's the biggest one out of all of them, technically. That's the only one that made them legally married. That's the only one that counts.

Yeah. I was going to say something, but I forgot. That's okay. Yeah. But it took place in Chicago. I know that they had a small wedding in Puerto Rico, which is where a lot of Marie's family is located in November. And this was kind of meant to bring together more of their family and friends to celebrate their marriage. I had a lot of fun.

It was super fun. I felt like our entire cast of Bachelor in Paradise was there. Yeah. It's so funny. Because I feel like everyone went into this weekend knowing like two or three other people that were going and was just like, oh, you're here. Oh, you're here. Oh, you're here. Oh, you're here. Yeah. And it ended up being a way bigger group than I expected. But yeah, it was just kind of fun. It was 70 and 80s themed. I didn't go for either of those. I had like a bit of an 80s aesthetic. I had feathers on my little black dress. Look, I feel like it was 70. 80s seem optional. was on the invite. But I feel like our outfits worked.

Yeah. My biggest takeaway was I have back going with Blake Moynes. If I could score a goal on him on the ice. And out of 10, he doesn't think that either me and Zach can score on him, but he's never played goal. Does he think anyone can score on him? That's not like a hockey player? He's under the assumption that Zach and I don't know how to skate, which is, which is somewhat correct.

You know how to skate. But I do know how to skate. But he just. Well, he grew up playing hockey. Yeah. He's a Canadian boy. And his point, yeah, he's going to be better than me, obviously. He played hockey for years.

Yeah. But I do think I could get one in. He's also never played goalie. I know. I know. We all went out. We all went out after the wedding was fun. Went to a bar in Chicago.

Yeah, everyone just seemed to be, seemed to be in a good mood. met Ivan's fiancee. She was really nice. Yep. Demar was there with his girlfriend. Anna and Chris, Abigail and Noah. How long was DeMara on our season of paradise? Not very long, I don't think. I think maybe like one or two episodes. Yeah, that was it. Because he came down late. Yeah, he came in with, didn't he come in with Dr. Joe? No, Ed. Yes. Because didn't they come in and go on like a double date? I think so. I think so. Yeah. I think so. I think Yeah. He wasn't there long.

I think he, I don't, I don't know. Yeah, I only think he was there for like an episode or two. Yeah, because I remember. Yeah. And then Chris, Chris and Anna. Yep, Chris and Anna. Natasha was there. Clay and Andrew.

Gosh, so many people I was trying to think. Zach, Brendan, Blake, Piper. Yeah. I mean. It was a good group. It was a big group of people. A lot of people from Clarentatious season of The Bachelor, a lot of people from Season 7,

A Bachelor in Paradise. Any takeaways from the wedding? Any takeaways? No, I don't think so. No? I don't think so. I mean, it was a really good time. We had a lot of fun.

We all went out after. Any takeaways for you? Yeah, I would say nothing juicy, nothing crazy really happened. No, it was all pretty tame and wholesome. Sure. Overall. But yeah, I mean, overall, fun weekend in Chicago.

Yeah, big congrats to Marry and Kenny. We had a good time. We had a great time. Speaking of all things, Bachelor, let's get into some fan questions. We have a lot of questions about Joey's season in particular. So let's get into those first, shall we? Yeah, let's do it. You want to ask the first question?

I would love to. All right. How do you think Joey did as The Bachelor this season? What's one thing he did great and one thing you think he could have done better? all right i'll answer this one first i not just saying this i think joey might go down as the best bachelor of all time he's definitely up there in like the hall of fame mount rushmore of bachelors he was like scary good at it yeah i don't i don't think he could have done anything different like i feel like like you could kind of like you get you could get a good temperature

when all the women have nothing but really nice things to say about him. Like no one has talked shit about him. I don't think anyone's talked shit about him on social media. Like he really, I felt like he handled every conversation so well. You can just tell he's just very, you know, emotionally mature. And yeah. Yeah, I feel like he's genuinely someone that's a very good list. listener. And I feel like he's incredibly empathetic, an empath, if you will. And I thought he did a

really good job. He was a good fit for the role. It's hard to say, like, what I think he could have done differently because, like, I would say that I wish we saw him open up and be vulnerable about his life and experiences with the women more. But I know for a fact that, like, he was doing that and we just weren't able to see it because the women had so many stories to share. I think maybe he could have broken up with Daisy on that last date. He kind of basically did, just didn't realize he was doing it. Pardon? It was a soft lunch breakup, which is funny because I think he didn't expect her to pick up on it as much as she did. I don't know how. I mean, we picked up on it immediately when we were watching. Oh, yeah. We were like, it's game over for this relationship. I guess he could

I feel bad for the next bachelor because... Even the next Bachelorette, but especially the next Bachelor. The next Bachelor, they need to get like a Bob Guinea type of...

Personet. Like someone very different. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Because as much as, yeah, like truly like we're reaching at this point to try to find something we could say that Joey could have done differently. Like he really did such a good job. And it's also just... I always feel kind of

icky criticizing the lead or like looking for reasons. to criticize them because it's such a hard job in itself and it's like I'm sure if either one of us did it we would not do it perfectly by any means like it's very difficult but yeah I think that

they should go in like a completely opposite direction for the next one because it's going to be hard to like compete with Joey if you get someone who does it as well as Joey that it's going to be boring you're most likely you get someone that's going to try to do

it as well as Joey and screw it up somehow and get a ton of hate. So I think if you go with a like a, like I said, a Bob Guinea personality type that's really just, just big personality who's out there and will say anything and kind of do anything, I think it will be very entertaining. And then there won't be that comparison to Joey. Yeah. Just pick someone super different. I think that's a good idea.

Yeah. All right, I'm asking the next question. You ready? Yep. Is there anything Joey did this season that surprised you? That surprised me. Oh my gosh. I'm now like the finale is just so fresh in my mind. I'm trying to like mentally run back through the season and think about like what happened throughout it.

I for me the biggest surprise was him sending Maria home when he did I thought Maria was going to fantasy suites so that would be my biggest surprise yes yeah I think that's a good one I would agree with that sorry I can't I really I don't know I mean I guess that yeah that probably would have been the big surprise I also was think I was surprised by the interaction between him and Maria prior to going into hometowns where she was like trying to send herself home and he was like, all right. Are you heading out of here kind of thing? But I wouldn't say there was any like one specific action that I was like, oh my God, I can't believe he did that. Yeah. Like he was pretty consistent the whole season. He was pretty like steady the whole time. I agree.

Okay. Okay. Okay. My term? Yeah. Was there a moment during Joey's season before the final episode that made you think Joey would choose Kelsey? I mean, I think there was a few moments. There was a few moments, but I forgot when I was like, I felt Joey liked Kelsey more than he liked everyone else.

I don't remember exactly when it was. I want to say it was like, it just, I think it was like even before their first one-on-one. Really? Yeah, they had like a conversation. I forgot what it was. It was like episode two or three where they had a conversation. I was like, oh, he's really into this girl. Remember I said somewhere like the body language.

You did. I remember that. I think I remember when she said like, I'm falling for you. And he was like, say it again. And then like that was like a cute moment. I was like, oh, he really likes this girl. Yeah. Like I was like, I think she's going far.

I don't think I was like, oh, it's her until maybe like fantasy. suites. I feel like that the fantasy sweet date and then them in the morning like making breakfast together and just the chemistry that they had. I was like this, it's got to be them. Like it has got to be Kelsey and Joey at the end of this. They really reminded me of charity

and that. And I feel like that one was even a little, that was more obvious. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. For our listeners, our dryers from 1980 in our building won't switch it out and it heats up our entire apartment. And Serena runs the law

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. Who do you think was the most shocking elimination from Joey's season? I think it's got to be Maria. Yeah. I mean, that's, yeah. I mean, there's a few girls who that went home, night one that I was like, whoa, I didn't see that one coming. But night one can only ever be so shocking.

Yeah. And I feel, oh, you know what was kind of shocking? I don't know if it was elimination. But when Lauren, remember Lauren? Yeah. She sent herself home. I wasn't really expecting that. shocking. I was not expecting

her to go home that soon at all. As far as the final three, it was kind of like all, none of it seemed shocking. It all made sense by that time. 100%. Even like the week before I felt like it was starting to kind of

all out of. Even the women were saying like yeah, we weren't shocked when we got sent home. Like we kind of knew it was our week to go. I was trying to think like of Jen's elimination. But even that wasn't. It never felt like Jen was going to go further than she did. Yeah, I think that we could have Like people were very much

Like it could have gone a couple different ways But I don't think it was like shocking necessarily Most shocking thing for me was Daisy and Kelsey sitting in that van together That was the most shocking That was the most shocking moment of the season for sure Okay, my question Were you surprised when Jen was announced

As The Bachelorette? A little bit, yeah I was very surprised Yeah. I mean, I think I was actually, that was actually, since I've been doing this podcast, all the Bachelnation podcast, that might have been the most shocking thing I've seen yet. Yeah. You were floored. I couldn't believe it. I was like it's like, I was like, I'm pretty sure it's Maria, like 90% sure it's Maria. but also if it's not Maria it's got to be Daisy

and the reason I felt like they were taking so long to announce that it was Maria was because I thought there was potential that they were waiting for the reaction of Daisy going home and potentially making it Daisy so that it was Jen I was I was actually shocked

and I really liked Jen I thought she was out of all everyone we've had in our podcast she just very personable and likable, and I think she's going to make for a great bachelor app, but I did not see that coming. Yeah, I think that's the general reaction overall. I think there was just so much social media hype around Maria and so many people calling for her to be the Bachelorette. And then also, you know, the runner up or the person with the biggest heartbreak is usually also a big contender for the Bachelorette or the Bachelor. So yeah, I think all eyes were kind of on Maria and Daisy.

It is funny, though, because my mom literally kept being like, I want Jen to be the Bachelorette. And I was like, yeah, like, I think she'd be great, mom. But, like, I just don't know if it'll be her. Like, it's looking like it'll probably be Maria Dasey. And she was like, I really hope it's Jen. And when it got it down, she was like, I'm stoked. This is exactly what I wanted to happen. I was like, yeah, mom, you really manifested this for for yourself.

But I think Jen is going to be great. I think that it's hard because she went home before hometowns. So I feel like a lot of people probably counted her out. But I think she's going to be a great fit for the lead. I think she's very capable. She's going to be entertaining. It's going to be good. I think she's a good pick.

But I do think that it came as a surprise to us, a huge surprise to you and a surprise to the audience as well. Yeah. Oh, shocking. But here we are. Yeah. Who doesn't love some twists and turns? All righty. based on what you know of Jen,

what do you expect to see from her as the lead? Honestly, I think that there's going to be someone that's really hot on the season. And I think it's potentially going to cause some problems because I feel like Jen loves a hop boy. Yeah.

I think she loves a hop boy. She's openly said that. She openly said that on our podcast. Yes. She loves to flirt. I think she said like her problem in the past So she's like gone for someone where it's like looks are a big reason that she's attracted to them. Yeah.

And I, I'm just waiting to find out like who the hop boy is that she's like a little like infatuated with. Yeah, I for sure think that's going to happen. And it's either going to be like that ends up being the guy that she falls in love with and it's all fine and dandy or it's going to be drama. Yeah. The audience is going to be like. don't like him. Yeah, or the guys are in the house are going to hate him,

but she's going to be like, but he's so hot and we have a great time together. Yeah, it's coming. I'm also excited because Noah Erb, also known as Noah and Abigail, his twin brother is on this season.

So I'm super, super curious. And I think they're very different personality. Noah and his brother. Yeah. They are very different. His brother was in the military. Okay.

And Noah, I feel like gives like hippies. hippie vibes. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Just, yeah, an extreme contrast or an extreme example, but

yeah. So, and I think that Jen is his type. Yeah. Like, I think, like, they could see her with Jen. Yeah. See him with Jen. Sorry.

So I'm super excited. Are they filming yet? Yeah, they're filming. Wow. So who knows? Maybe they're in love already. Or maybe you got sent home already. Yeah.

We don't know. Questions. Let's do, let's move on to questions about Petternation. All right. You ready? Yep. If you had to be stuck on a deserted island with three members of Batchar Nation, who would you pick and why?

I feel like we've answered this. I think we have two. Yeah, we've definitely answered this. But I'll answer it again. Okay. I know my answer. Okay. Okay.

Okay. One, you, my husband. Yeah. I hope you would say that. Yeah. Two, Blake Moynes. Okay. Because he's out here surviving in the wilderness all the time.

Yeah. Three, Noah, because he's a nurse. And if I get injured, he can take care of me. Okay. Your turn. And also like I can just be a little beach princess if I'm there with three dudes. Wow. Wow. Good for you.

Thank you. I'm going to say, you know what? If I'm on a deserted island, I'll just, I'll just drown myself. Oh, my God. That's not the question. I was just, I'll just swim at to sea and give up immediately. Who would I, who, are there any doctors? Yeah, Dr. Joe.

Dr. Joe, okay, Dr. Joe. Yeah, but I think Dr. Joe's an anesthesiologist. So you can only put me to sleep, which still kind of is aligned with what you're looking for. Okay. So, yeah, I feel like Dr. Joe and yeah, I mean, as of right now, I would say Blake Moynes is the nature. the nature guy in in bachelor nation. So if a lion appears, I feel like he can handle that situation better than I could. Better than most.

Who would I go for my third? So Dr. Joe Blake. Are you kidding right now? Are you kidding right now? Actually, I don't want to be on the dessert island. Don't bring me with you. Leave me out of that shit. Leave me at home.

Yeah, it's actually me doing you a favor. might not bring you. But I would, I would bring you. All right. Well, that's fine. Yeah. I mean, unless you really don't want to go. No, I'll keep you company. Make sure you don't go drown yourself in the ocean. Thank you. I'm Jamil Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly. Many of them are in fear of their political lives and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up

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Okay, if you could have gone on a different season of Bachelor slash Bachelorette just for fun, based on the cast, which season would you pick? Oh, that's a good question. That's a hard question. I don't know. Based on the cast. Oh, my God. Wow. Okay.

Okay. I'm trying to like remember Zach's girls seem like fun And they all seem like They're really close and get along well Okay And I like love charity Is that your answer?

I don't know I don't know my answer What's your answer? My answer I feel like I know what your answer should be What should my answer be? Clare and Tasha's season I feel like you're friends with a lot of those guys

Yeah I am friends with a lot of them but I still don't know. You know what? Maybe I would choose Joey's season because they'd travel to so many good places. Yeah. That I feel like I would also want to experience that. I'm going to say,

who season was Jared on? Jared was on Caitlin Bristol season. I'd probably choose. I think I would choose that season. So was Nick. Yeah, I think I would choose that season. Yeah. That's a good one.

Yeah. That's a good one. I think Tanner was on that season, too. There's a lot of people on that season. I like most, all those guys. Okay. Which Bachelor Nation couple do you think is an example of opposites attract? Hmm.

That's hard. Well, I actually feel like Joey and Kelsey seem to be quite opposite. I know that's kind of the newest dance. I mean, newest couple. Um, they just seem very different. They really do. They seem really like even interviewing them. I was like they are very different people.

Yeah. I guess you that. Yeah. She has, she's giving me more like New Orleans like free spirited kind of like go with the flow. And Joey, even though he may, I think Joey kind of like gives a little bit of that energy, but he also seems very like type A. I feel like yeah, Kelsey like almost brings that out in him. But when he's not with her, I don't see it as much.

Like that goofiness. Yeah. And then what about you? I'm trying to think who else, like from our season. I feel like everyone like Abigail and Noah like have similarities and differences. You know what I mean? Like Mari and Kenny are actually quite similar. Becca and Thomas.

similarities and differences like it's so hard i don't know i don't think like opposites really attract like i don't know many couples where like they're so different from one another yeah okay is that a bad answer maybe us we are actually we are quite different really you think so i thought we i think we're kind of similar i know it's so hard it's like you can find similarities and differences in every relationship i know that's like not really a good answer but no it's a terrible answer I think if you look at the couples that maybe didn't work out, they're the ones that were really different. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. If you had to pick three other bachelor-nation couples to go out with for a fun night out, who would you pick? Three is a lot. That's a lot. Let's go two. I would probably do you, me, Abby, Noah, Chris and Anna. Because we just all get along really well.

and I feel like it's good vibes. Sure. I'm going to go with that too. Okay. Not that there's not other Bachelor Nations couples that we wouldn't that we'd want to hang out with. But it's so hard.

Like we're just in Chicago. So that's what's at the forefront of my mind. And I feel like the six of us get along well. We're all kind of in the same stage of life. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. And we had a good time in Chicago.

We had a really good time of Chicago. Okay. Last question. What's the best thing about being part of Bachelor Nation? Crickets Crickets What's the best thing about being part in that

Bachelor nation I think it's just You know it's it's All the love and support from everyone that follows you And I think that's like a really nice Nice support system to have That's what I think No I agree

I think we do have to highlight, you know, the hate and the trolls and a lot of the negativity that can come with the fan base. But for the most part, the fan base for Bachelor is so, like, from our experience, like loving and supportive. And when they come up and they introduce themselves and say hi and like every interaction for the most part that I've ever had with a fan of the show has been super positive and supportive and that is really nice and i also think that the community and support within people that have been on the show and the franchise is a great community to be a part of yeah it's like everyone i meet that's from the show all all ends up being really nice and pretty cool and it's just

like everyone's everyone's chill so it's it's it's you know it was it was a great way later on in life to like make new friends and meet new people. No, truly. Like it's not, I feel like once you're out of like high school college, like it does become harder to make new friends as an adult. Like that's just the reality of growing up. And it's like you interact with kind of like the people that you work with and your family

and the friends that you've already made. And then being able to like go on a show like this just expands your network so much. And like you see people like living together and going out for dinner. and it just allows you to meet so many more people that you probably never would have met if you weren't on the show. Yeah. Which is cool.

Yeah, I agree. All right. So last question, bonus question, came in late. Is it hard to keep in touch with friendships that you made on Paradise? I don't know if it's hard because of social media, but it's more challenging to hang out with people that you met on the show

that just don't live in the same city as you. Yeah, it would be the same as like any other long distance friendships. Like it's much easier I feel like to keep in touch with people when you can see them

regularly, when they live in your city whereas like a lot of Bachelor nation lives across the U.S. in varying places and a lot of people and our friends do as well. So it's yeah, it's like it's the same as any other

relationship like If you put in the work, you can maintain the friendship. And if not, it's easy for them to fizzle out, especially if you don't live in the same place. Well said. Thank you. Well, son. Thank you. Wow.

Yeah. But the one thing nice about living in New York is a lot of people do come and visit or come here for whatever work opportunities they get. So we do actually get to see a lot of people. And then when there are weddings and stuff that's always found. Like a little reunion. Yeah, like this week it was really, it was cool to just see everyone. And then it's like, man, like also, it was a while ago. No, it was surreal.

Like even like I was talking to Ivan at one point and I was like, I don't think I've seen you since we were on the beach in paradise, which was almost three years ago now. I'm now married to you. engaged like it's just crazy it feels kind of like no time has passed but like yeah it's been three years since we filmed the show so it is crazy and it is fun to go yeah to weddings or any sort of event we're like are we going on are we going on four years or well this would this June be four or three this June will be our three year anniversary of meeting and getting engaged because we met in 2021. It's 2024.

Yeah. Apparently to show it feels a lot longer than three years. Well, sometimes I forget that we got married after a year. But for some reason, I thought it was two. No, it's confusing because we met got engaged instantly and then a year later got married and then a year later got married again. Yeah. Well, look at us.

Look at us. I was confused about our own timeline. I still can't figure it out. Well, thank you guys for tuning in and listening to us, talk about all the fun stuff. We are going to do more questions for part two. And be sure to subscribe because we have lots of interviews, exclusive interviews, episodes with us chatting away coming up. Stay tuned. Stay tuned.

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