Bachelor Happy Hour - Joe & Serena Answer Fan Questions: Part 2

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

It’s part two of Q&As with Joe and Serena. From their favorite places to travel to whether kids are in their future, Joe and Serena get into it all. Then, do they ever get sick of each other working together, living together, and being married? Their answer may surprise you! Tune in now and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Like, it was never a princess. Make sure you listen to this episode as Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bad Your Hap The Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And this is Band Questions Part 2. We are back for part two of our episode.

We are answering all the questions. We love hearing from you guys. It's always some of our favorite podcasts to deal. And honestly, the easiest because we just talk about ourselves the whole time. Yeah, who doesn't love to do that. You guys, it's like the audience is interviewing us, you know? I know. They're doing our job for a minute.

Yeah. That's great. But before we do, we are now going to break down some Batchar Nation news, which is what I used to do back in the day. You know what? When you did clickbait, I would listen to pretty much every single episode. And I always liked it. I knew you were a fan. I was a fan of you.

Well, I started listening after we got together, if I'm being totally honest. But I always thought Bachelor Nation News with you, Natasha and Tia was like the best part. I thought it was so fun. Yeah. Well, I haven't done it forever. I used to kind of sit back in the wings and let Natasha talk about it. I know, but no Natasha here today. And I'm not going to be doing that.

So step up, Joey. Step up. Okay. First one, Gabby and girlfriend Robbie talk about moving in together and discuss a queer Bachelorette. I mean, they've been together for almost a year now, I think. I'm trying to think when they announced their relationship. I think it was last spring.

Yeah. Because I remember Rachel Reckia being like they had just started seeing each other before she went to film Paradise. And she made a joke. Like, I wouldn't have been surprised if like I came back and they were like married. Like they were obsessed with each other right away. Yeah. When we went to L.A. and went paintballing with Gabby.

I feel like she was already. low key in that relationship. That was what in end of May of last year? Yeah. Yes. Yes. We didn't know about it at the time but she was already seeing Robbie and then she announced

it, I don't know, like June I think. I don't know. But around this time. Moving in together though, I would say moving in together is the biggest step in a relationship besides having a child. I would agree. It's just as big is getting married, like moving in together.

I mean, getting married is... Massive change in both people. Both people's lives. Getting married is a big commitment. But like, at the end of the day, it doesn't change, at least for us, it did not change the structure of our relationship or our day to day. I mean, it definitely changed the fact that we're committed to each other for life. But like, I mean, at the end of the day, we could get divorced.

Yeah, there's an option. There's an option. And also, if you live with someone, it's for like two to three years, you're technically consider a common law married. Yeah. So like there's still like a. Yeah. But what you said, it is, it changes kind of how you operate out of day to day.

Yes. Because now there's somebody in your space. Yeah, 100%. You're sharing your home with another person. Yeah. It does. And you're seeing this person way. more you're having to like compromise and like navigate how you live together which if you don't

live together if you don't live in similar ways it can create problems i love how we just explained what it is to move in with someone like like like for those of you that don't know this is what it means when two people move in together someone's going to be in your space intellects. Oh my gosh. But yeah, no, it is. I think it's just a massive step. It's a big step.

It's like our relationship probably changed more when we moved in together than when we got married. And then I think obviously, I think having kids is probably the biggest, the biggest change. But happy for them. That's amazing. Love that they're moving together. I feel like from social media, it looks like they're together like 24-7 anyway. I kind of already thought they lived together.

but I'm glad that they're doing well and they're taking this step. Every time I see them on our screens or on social, they just seem very happy and in love, which is wonderful. And then they discuss a queer bachelorette. When I was probably too young to be watching this,

I was at a friend's house. I wasn't even watching like The Bachelor yet at this time. But I remember they did like Tequila Teila Tequila Search for Love. Do you remember that? And they had like girls and guys. Yeah. that's the closest thing in the U.S. I've ever seen to like a queer dating show or someone

as the lead of a dating show from the LGBTQ plus community. One of my best friends who is gay, he was like a gay bachelor would never work because you would have one male lead and then just a house full of men that are all attracted to one another. I still don't know why they haven't, why haven't we done that? Like that would be... I feel like it'd have to be like paradise.

You know what I mean? I want that because honestly that adds so much drama. I mean, wait. Could you imagine at the end when the lead is ready to propose to a person and then that person's like, hey, listen,

also like you're not the only one that hooked up with Jeffrey. I also, I was like, what? And then he can't, like, Could he even get mad? Because like if the lead gets mad, it's like, well, like, but you did it too. Yeah, I don't know.

It would be wild. I think they would have to create a unique structure, like an adjustment in the rulebook if they were to do a queer lead. But I think it would be fun. I think it's something they should explore. I mean, they have had certain, like, aspects of representation through the show. but like they've had people on the show like contestants that are openly bisexual

they've had people come out and say you know that they're gay but they've never had someone on the show like as the lead at that time yeah okay uh moving on Blake Horstman in Gianina from Love is Blind

just had a baby I know I think the baby looks so much like her like the eyes like she has these really beautiful big like almond shaped eyes and I feel like the baby like looks so much like her I know I never think babies look like anyone until they till they start hitting like the three yeah two three year old age you're not wrong because like but you can kind of pinpoint like certain features I don't know I always feel like it's a stretch maybe I always feel like it's a show and I see like like like like like one month old I'm like they don't look like anyone except like the other one month old even like your cousin's baby yeah when he was born you were like oh my god he looks so much like the mom your cousin and now that he's like two everyone's like no he looks like the dad yeah i i i yeah i don't know i don't know i just don't i i think i think babies all look just like babies

I don't think they look like their parents. Okay. You think they like grow into it once their features develop up a little more. And I think everyone that says that, I think they're just wrong. Oh, okay. And I think if they're just, it's just like, it's just like, yeah, I just think it's a stretch. Maybe a little bit, yeah. But I think it's just fun to speculate also.

Also, like I don't, I don't judge like everyone's, not everyone sees, must see the same thing. Because there's people that have said, like, I look like someone and I'll be like, or like a friend looks like an actor or something. Yeah. I'll be like that's not even like close. Like, no. Like I don't look like this person or this. No, like you're not even close. Like how is this what you see?

I mean, yeah. I think appearance is somewhat subjective. It's kind of like the cilantro effect. Like some people have cilantro. and they love it. I don't know if anyone really loves cilantro. I like cilantro. But do you love it?

Loves a strong word. I don't know if there's any herb that I love. But some people eat cilantro and it tastes like soap. Yeah, but that's a genetic thing. Yeah. And that's why I think maybe with some people's vision, it's like you may, I don't know, maybe some features stand out more to you. That has to be.

This is a crazy comparison. No way we all, no way the entire. let's just just call it the United States No way the entire United States Looks at Serena Pitt And sees the same face I see Why not? You think I'm like

I'm just telling you that's how it is transforming I just I don't think people see everyone For what everyone sees them as Does that make sense? Kind of Because I'm just telling you Because there are people that have compared you to a certain person.

Yeah. And I'll look at the person they're comparing you to and be like, that's not even, no, that's not what I see. Yeah. That's not what she looks like. Yeah.

And I, so the only way that this makes, that I can make this make sense to me is the cilantro effect. But I also think like when you perceive, not just you, like when people perceive someone's looks,

there's so many factors that go into it. Like you knowing, I think personality, plays a big factor in how attractive or unattractive people view other people. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like I think like, and I think, but yeah, if we're just talking straight up features, like physical features, I don't know.

I think you're not wrong. Like I think that like you might look at me and be like, oh, because she has like dark hair and this color skin, she looks like this person. But then if you break down like features, maybe I don't. I don't know. I get what you're saying. Yeah. I just want to bring it back that this topic is about Blake and Gianni.

Right. And their child and their newborn baby. We're very happy for them. So happy for them. The baby's name is Heath. Oh, really? I didn't see that. Heath, um, I forget the middle name.

Heath something horseman. Do you feel like it is now something that has, you have to do if you are someone that has a social media following, um, Take professional photos when you have a kid? Quick pause. The baby's name is Heath Orion or Orion. Okay. Horseman.

The middle name is spelled O-R-I-O-N. What happened to Joe or Jeff? What do you mean? You don't like the name Heath? Can't we just name it? Yeah, let's go make to the easy ones. Literally half your family. Joe, Jim, or Jeff or what's a Mike?

John. You're just naming one-syllable white boy name. names we won't be naming our kid any of those I like you just suggested we're to name our kid Joey no we're not yeah Joey Jr the thing is I'm like quaking right now because I know your dad's listening to this podcast being like what's wrong with the name Joe um no we're gonna name our daughter mithelda I already said that Joe's in saying that literally since we met uh what was I just talking about though um the name heath and how people should just name no no no I was talking about something before some of before Heath oh yeah sorry I did cut you

I'm sorry I don't remember what you were saying but I don't have a middle name so I'm indifferent on giving our kid a middle name yeah I don't I don't think the kid needs a middle name the only reason I feel like I even have a middle name is because my father and I have the same name yes and his father and so and that's the only thing that's the only way you're a junior is if you have the same whole name oh so you're technically not a junior I'm not a junior you're just another Joe I'm just I'm yeah I'm job Joseph. You're Joseph Anthony. My dad is Joseph Salvatore. Yeah. Okay. And then all the other Joe's in your family have different male names too. Oh, what I was saying, going back to what I was saying.

Yeah. And yes, the answer to that is yes. Do you feel like when we have a kid, do you want professional photos? Oh, sorry. That is what you're talking about. I think, I do think it's nice. I actually did see her post the professional photos, like, of the most. moments right after she'd given birth and like in their home with the baby. And I had two thoughts.

One, I was like, how does she look so good? She just gave birth. I can't imagine like being sweaty and exhausted and having like a camera stuck in my face. I think that would be the last thing I would want. But at the same time, like the photos are so beautiful and they capture like a moment that you're the biggest moment of your life. Yeah, like one of the biggest moments of your life to have these like beautiful photos to like look back on like I actually was like wow like that's actually a really good idea like that's so special to have those I agree you know like it's like I feel like you call the photographer in like all right you got 30 seconds to get in here I feel like it's one of those things that you don't really want to do in the moment you're kind of like why do we do this

but then once you get the product you're like I'm so happy yes I'm 100%. And I would imagine, like, I did click on the Instagram of the girl who took her photos. And I think she's like, not a midwife. But like all of her photos is like birth photos. Yeah. So it's like she would, I would assume have like the etiquette and know kind of how to go about it in a way that didn't feel overly invasive for the parents. For sure. So yeah, it was something I've literally never thought about in my life. But I was like, Well, maybe I would want to do that. I mean, like, the photos, like, have so much emotion in them. Yeah. It would be nice. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.

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I'm a little nasally. I apologize. Joey and Kelsey, okay, I think that's great. I think doing that, I honestly, I think it probably should almost be, I don't want to say mandatory but i mean definitely should always be an option especially after um an experience like this because they both have to watch the whole season back Kelsey's got to sit there and watch the person that she's now engaged to have feelings for strong feelings for other women so she's got to work past all that it's easy to just say like

don't watch but like of course you're you're still going to watch and even if you don't watch you know what happen or you're going to hear from family friends or hear from social media which is even worse um so i think it's really great i think it's um i think it's something that should the leads should always do yeah i agree i think we did not do couples counseling after paradise but that's because i'm essentially a counseling myself sure okay you can tell yourself that i mean it's true you were things that you were worried about i sat down and i let you i let you talk and i looked down my notepad. It was great. That's not what happened at all. Just spreading lies, spreading so many lies. But I will say, like, coming off of paradise, we had had like a lot, a lot of time together to

establish a foundation and like figure out our communication styles and all of that. And I would say we really needed that and leaned into it for the first few months, probably up until like after the finale of just working through like the struggles that come with coming off the show and navigating it being a secret and then watching it back like watching back the show both times is like a really unusual experience because it really does put you back in a moment that you lived months ago and like all these emotions come back and then you've got to watch like interviews and all of this stuff so it really is crazy but it coming off the batch and the bachelor's at like whoever they end up but they have not spent that much time with like a minuscule amount

compared to what you get on Bachelor in Paradise. So you're really still trying to figure each other out while watching the person you're engaged to on TV publicly dating a bunch of other people. And like in Kelsey's case, like a lot of people were like, I hope Joey ends up with Maria or I hope he ends up with Daisy. Like I'm sure that element is very difficult too. Whereas like thankfully for us on Paradise, like we were together the whole time. Yeah. I didn't have to like watch you date a bunch of other people. So like I really think it's like.

the best thing you can do for your relationship coming off of Bachelor or Bachelorette is do regular couples therapy because it's such an unusual experience. For show. For show. For show. I agree. With that being said, let's move on to fan questions. Fan questions.

Because we're running a little long here because I did a little rant, which I enjoyed. Okay. Fan question number one. you guys seem to take the best trips. Thank you. Thank you. You guys seem to take the best trips. What is the next vacation you have planned?

We actually don't have another vacation planned yet. No, nothing. We typically only take one vacation, maybe two vacations a year. One. One. Well, one big one. We actually went to Miami for Valentine's Day. Yeah.

So that's a trip. That's a vacation. Yeah. Anything. What do you define as a vacation? I find a vacation. Okay, yeah, that's great. Love this question.

I define a vacation. You know, because we travel, so, you know, growing up, I never really went on vacation or took trips. But now, you know, but now lucky, been very lucky to be able to do that. So I defined like a trip to be like a three, four day thing somewhat to a place that I've been multiple times. So like going to Miami, going to Vegas, that's just a quick trip. A vacation, I consider it to be seven to 10 days out of the country. What? A vacation is only an international trip to you? Yeah. Wow. I have a different definition. Yeah. So I would consider a trip like it could be work related or typically it's like work related like we're going to l.A. to do something or we're going

or if we're going home to chicago or Toronto not that we consider those like work by any means but usually those are like we're going home to see our family yeah we're going home to like see our friends we're going home for like a bridal shower that's not a vacation a vacation to me is any time that we go away that is strictly something that we have planned paid for organized for ourselves just for pure enjoyment and adventure. Like going to Miami for four days, we literally were just like, let's go away, let's go lay by a pool,

let's go out for some nice dinners, spend some really good quality time together in warm weather. That is a vacation, even though it was like three, four days. Exactly. What do you mean exactly? I give a totally different definition that you.

I do agree with you, but I know, yeah, I guess I... You were like, exactly, but it has to be out of America. No. Yeah. Yeah. I could, so how would I consider a vacation for us moving forward is seven days plus out of the country. Okay, good to know. Well, to answer this person's question, and we may not even do those every year. You know, that might be a once and every three year thing. Yeah, we usually, so far we've done one vacation by your definition a year. We did Spain our first year together. Then we did our honeymoon last year to Italy. And then this year, our hope is that we're going to go to Asia, specifically Japan and maybe a few other stops. See, but I've been to Japan. So I don't know if that'll be a vacation. for me. Okay. But you're the one that wanted to go there. No, I still do.

Okay. I do too. And I hope we make it work. We're thinking September. And I think it's a good year for us to do it. And I'm excited about the potential because I've never been. Okay. Okay, next question.

Yeah. How is it being married, living together, and working together for the podcast, do you get sick of each other? I feel like this is a good question because we literally do everything together. And I'm not loving look on your face right now. So wipe that shit off. Do you ever get sick of me? I actually don't know.

Wow. I don't get sick of you, which is something I realized early on in our relationship. And I was like, this is a huge green flag for us and our future together. Because I think that you can be very in love with someone and have an amazing relationship, but it doesn't mean you can spend all your time with them, which is okay. Like I think there's a lot of people in long successful marriages that are like, I need my space and I need my alone time. And I just feel like you and I are really like that.

But do you agree with me? I'm feeling super vulnerable right now. No, I do. I agree with you. And I think, but like we do do everything together. But we also do things separately. Yeah. And it's never like a thing.

Like you went to dinner last night. I went and did my thing. Yeah. I go to the gym, usually by myself. Yeah, or like you have things that you do with your friends. Yeah. Where it'll be like, yeah, go to your thing. I'm going to stay home.

I'll take a Vegas trip with my friends. Yeah. But yeah, no, I don't, I don't, I don't ever get sicky. There's never a time where I'm like, oh, I need a, I need a guy's night. Well, actually, a guy's night out's different because it's just something that's just, it's not that I'm sick of you. It's just like I haven't done that in a while. Yeah. But I'm never.

No, yeah, like there'll be times where I'm like, I. it's not that I want to get away from you, but like a night out for dinner with you is not the same and not giving me the same thing as like a night out with my girlfriend. For sure. And I think that it's important that we still have balance in our lives and like invest in our outside relationships.

And I think that's why we don't get sick of each other. Yeah. I also feel like if we answered this where we do get sick of each other, this whole podcast would go way differently. I don't think so because I do think there's people that would say like yes. Like, you know, like, we're kind of, like, that's why a lot of relationship ended during COVID. Yeah. It was like, I'm together with this person 24-7 now and I'm realizing like, I don't want to be, which is also very normal.

I think it's normal to get sick of your partner, especially with the way we live where it's like we live together. We both work from home. We both work on this podcast. Like, it would not be weird if we were like, yeah, sometimes we get a little sick of each other. I agree. But we're very fortunate that we don't. And I think that's why we can. work together and live the way we do.

For sure. For show. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out.

Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it?

Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Patton. Elaine Welterah. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition.

Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time? winner and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know.

Plus, the stories and events off the court and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wildcard bids? or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself.

How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an IHeart women's sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Okay, Serena, name one thing that Joe does that had annoyed. you. Okay.

Let me think about this one. She can't even think of anything. Well, it used to be that you would put your dishes in the sink and not the dishwasher, but you actually have worked on that a lot. You don't really do it as much anymore. I know. Well, the thing that also used to annoy me that doesn't really because you don't do it as much anymore is if you would go to bed without telling me that you were going to bed. I take that last night.

No, you text me and said that you were going to bed. I hate it. I really hate it. Like, I hate it in a way that, like, it's comical. It's not, like, a real problem in our relationship. But, like, genuinely, like, if we're both sitting there reading our books together and Joe, like, shuts his book, puts it on his bedside table, turns off his light and lays down to go to sleep, that's an absolute no. That is so, makes me so mad. My blood is boiling, just thinking about that.

That is so crazy. I will wake him up and be like, what do you think you're doing? I don't care if you go to bed first, but you have to say, hey, I'm going to sleep good night. And sometimes I'm being like, I want to go to sleep too. So why don't we just go to sleep, initiate sleep mode together versus me look over and see your back while you're snoring. It's so hard to because I do, I hate it so much. I do enjoy it. I feel crazy saying it.

Like it's such, but there's really not much. that bothers me, but that one really does. And I do, there's a part of me that is a ball buster, and I do kind of enjoy. No, you do it on purpose. I do enjoy busting street with balls. But if I do it at night, I know she gets all worked out, and then that's going to screw up the sleep. Yeah, because then you start laughing at that we're awake.

But no, but last night, I went out to dinner with Abigail and Chelsea, and you text me and said, hey, I'm going to bed, which I really appreciated. But I said, okay, I'm on my way home, meaning I was going to be home in 10 minutes. So I thought that you might wait up for me. Came home, lights are out, Joe's horizontal, asleep in bed. That's crazy, though. That's crazy because you were out late. No, I was okay with it.

I was like, this is understandable. I mean, I got home at like midnight, but I did wake you up. That's great. Hey, I wanted chat. Yeah, you woke me up. Well, I hadn't seen you all night. I wanted to chitty chat about our evenings and see how yours was and tell you about mine. Do you think if you two had met when you were in high school that you had,

have ended up together um yeah i'm maybe no i don't know it's hard to know i don't know like you i was basically i've been basically the same person my whole life i have i i i would say if you met me in high school i'd be the same as i'm now but you i think have changed a lot yeah over the course of your life definitely like even if i met you at 25 and we were both 25 i don't know i was different at 30 yeah so yeah definitely yeah i don't know i don't know either i mean Like, I think we always would have, like, clicked and had chemistry, but I don't know if we would have worked out. I think for our relationship to work out, we kind of had to meet in the stages of life that we were at when we met one another. Yeah.

Would you guys ever renew your vows? No. Saying my vows is one of the most anxiety-provoking experiences of my life, and I'm surprised I got through it the first time. Yeah. That's a quick no for me. But maybe, you know what? Maybe in, like, 20 years, we could do something like private. it and intimate and special just like for us like I wouldn't necessarily want to like do it in front of a whole bunch of people but there's other ways we could go about it I think it's nice to like do

romantic things throughout your marriage throughout the years if you had never gone on the bachelor Joe's like no fucking comment if you had never gone on the bachelor or the bachelorette where do you think you'd be now each of us oh you go first I think I would probably be in Chicago, probably in the grocery, produce business doing something of the sort, miserable. Oh, my God. It's horrible. Thank God you went on the show.

I know. I mean, I was working in PR when I went on the show, but I really wanted to get into events. I was doing PR, A, because I liked it, B, because it was COVID times, and there was no events. to work for so I would probably have found my way into a career in events living in Toronto working a nine to five doing like what all my friends are doing you know it's pretty easy to see what my life would have looked like because I was young when I went on the show and all my friends were kind of on a similar trajectory as I was at the time and they've all kind of ended up in a place where I think I probably would have ended up if I hadn't gone on the show if you were to

get a pet what would it be it would be a little doggy because we have a small apartment and we travel so much we would need a dog that we could bring around with us and a dog that doesn't shed because i just i don't think i could emotionally handle a dog that sheds um yeah do you agree like a little like if you see natasha's dog that would be what we would get yeah do you want children someday. Yes, I believe we do. What do mean you believe we do? Yeah, we want children. We're living our best dink life right now, dual income, no kids. But she provided a dozen. She provided a, no. Yeah. No. All I think about when I see cheap by the dozen is how expensive it would be to have 12 kids. And last one, if you won the lottery tomorrow, what's the first thing you would buy?

I would buy a lawyer who specializes in wealth management. I would have them on salary. Well, it depends on how much you win, you know? How much is it? You know, are we talking $30 million? Yeah. Yeah, I would get a lawyer on staff immediately. Interesting.

What would you do? I would buy Bitcoin. Yeah, that's what I would expect. But if we're talking about, like, an actual physical material per purchase, probably property. My answer stays the same, Bitcoin. You wouldn't want to get, like, a place in Chicago, a place in Toronto, a place in New York, a place in Florida? Yeah, I would do that. But you said the first thing.

Yeah. Not the last thing. We wouldn't see a dollar of that money. It'd all be in Bitcoin. Okay. Well, honestly, that's it. for the episode of Badger Happy Hour. Thank you guys so much for sending in your questions.

This has been a lot of fun. I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I did. And we will be back with some interviews that are not about us, that are about some of your Bachelor Nation favorites coming up in the next few weeks as we anticipate Gen Season of the Bachelorette. So be sure to subscribe and stay tuned. Thanks again. Bye.

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