Bachelor Happy Hour - Joe & Serena’s 2025 Wrapped | Happy Hour
Episode Date: December 31, 2025Today on “Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are here with a solo episode to ring in the new year! 2025 was an incredible journey for them personally and professionally, so they’re here to ...reflect on all of it with you. They kick things off getting into the highs and lows of the year and what they’re excited for in 2026. Then, we have our “Bachelor Happy Hour” 2025 wrapped! Joe and Serena take us through their best moments on the podcast, including their favorite episode of the year. Grab your champagne or your mocktail, get cozy, and ring in 2026 with us now! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And I'm Serena. And we are here today with a little New Year's Eve episode, just Serena and I chatting it up, talking about
this year next year and all the things in between yeah let's do it we're going to get into
2025 a little bit about us and our year and then we're going to do a little bit about the podcast and
our 2025 recap and review all the things in between okay so let's get uh let's get personal
2025 personal i'm gonna i'm gonna start you want to go uh question for question here not you just do
it okay okay you ready i'm ready let's do it all right let's start with this year as a whole
when you think back on it what word would you use to describe it oh my god um probably transitional
transitional yeah okay um i got my green card this year you did i've done a lot of transitioning
you have from
Toronto to here it feels like
despite the fact that I've lived in New York for four years
it's felt like a big transition year
on a personal level for me
and professionally
I made some changes this year
that have also felt very transitional
so yeah I feel like it's a good word
I turned how old did I turn this year 28?
28 people say when you turn 27
you develop like this sense of clarity
of like what
is serving you and what isn't serving you. And I definitely feel like I felt that when I turned
27. I felt like I went into 2025 because I like a late October birthday being like, okay, I kind of
have a vision for this year. And actually, I feel like I executed kind of like all the things
that I went into this year wanting to do. And some things, you know, were surprises or something's
got decided like later in the year but I think overall everything worked out very well and
we'll hopefully continue to work out very well yeah I didn't um yeah I didn't love this year
personally I thought it was I actually found it to be quite stressful yeah um it's actually been
more stressful as I would say like it was it like the middle of the year was chill like summer was
chill and it was more like since um like fall has hit which usually is like the opposite for us
but i have yeah i've been like very anxiety ridden and very stressed out um so i'm actually
looking forward to midnight yeah i i wouldn't disagree i think this has been a big year
for both of us for a lot of different reasons but transition comes with a lot of stress and change
comes with a lot of stress and decision making comes with a lot of stress and I think all good things
but I'm looking forward to a less transitional 2026 actually and kind of trying to sink into
I don't know just like sinking into a place where we feel a little more I actually just don't
want to transition next year I guess is what I'm saying you know like we did a lot this year it feels
like and I am just hoping to reap the benefits of those decisions next year yeah that's fair
that's fair yeah what's one moment from this year that really stands out to you I would say well
getting my green card was huge I mean that was like a two and a half year journey yeah and that was
just like yeah a huge huge moment in my year that I was working towards for so long and our trip
to Japan and South Korea I mean really unforgettable yeah that was a big one yeah and we've been
talking about doing that since we got together it's been like a dream trip of mine and I'm just so
glad we did it this year yeah I agree I agree with both of those just like even like the Montreal
of it all of going to get your green card then having
getting denied at first because we didn't have some of the right paperwork having to go back
my brother got married this year yeah so there was that um so probably yeah your best man's speech
my best man's speech um what surprised you most about this year either personally or professionally
surprised me most it really surprised me how painful it would be to lose a tonal from the marathon
two months later.
Yeah, Joe a few weeks ago had his big toe cut off.
Not my toe.
Sorry, his big toe nail.
Oh, they had the stick of needle in there, numb it five times, slice it open.
I watched the whole thing.
I almost passed out.
It was horrible.
Yeah.
Really has made me really consider running marathons in the future.
Like, it is.
I mean, it is so hard on your body, not just your body.
Like anyone that runs a marathon, the impact on your body is intense.
There's no doubt about it.
It's one thing to deal with like, you know, being sore and everything for like a week after and all that.
Like that's, but like then when we linger on for like a couple months where like I have like a toenail that's half off, I got to go get it removed and then like the pain of that.
I'm like, all right.
Like I love it.
Like pain, no game, whatever.
but like no no I'm not a I'm not a professional athlete I don't need to do it so yeah so stay tuned for him
running the marathon 2026 because I just feel like feel like it's one of those things like you know
how they say pregnant women give birth and it's like incredibly painful but you get this rush
of endorphins after you give birth that kind of makes you forget how painful it was and because
of that women can do it again and again and again yeah I feel like that happens with the
marathon too like I feel like for three months after you're like that was so hard my body took
such a beating and then all of a sudden August rolls around and you're like why wouldn't I do it
again I sometimes think about the act of having a baby of like the like delivering a child
just like carry and not even just delivering it carrying it for nine months has to a be so
uncomfortable.
Yes.
It just has to be, like I would be, that would be like driving me insane, how
how uncomfortable that has to be.
And then pushing it out of such a small.
Okay.
Pushing it out of your body.
Pushing it out of your body.
It is so like just that, like if you actually sit back and just think about what's happening,
it is so insane it's like so wild it is it's it's yeah women are just out here making people
making people it's crazy yeah we are really all just you know animals okay last question that
we'll jump to 2025 podcast okay what's something you're more intentional about in your relationships
now than you were a year ago choose wisely something that you're more intentional about
in your relationships.
Yes.
I think for us, I was actually just thinking about this today, is having a balance between work time together
and personal time together.
Yeah.
We struggle with that, which is fine because we both love working.
We love working together.
But we both work from home together in our apartment that we live.
in so there's like no boundaries which most of the time is fine but i think that's something
that we are starting to become more intentional about and can get even better at next year
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Okay.
But wait, there's another question on here I'm going to ask, ready?
All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you have to answer too.
What do you becoming more intentional about with your relationships?
With my relationships.
It doesn't even have to be with me.
Yeah, I think it's more about, um, I feel like,
I do a good job of this, but I think it's just, um, just spending, you know, quality time
with, uh, you know, friends, family and just like, enjoying, you know, relationships in person.
In person? Yeah. That's nice. Yeah. I think it's just like, you know, I think I want to try to be
able to like something that I enjoyed this year that I didn't get to do too much of but I do
enjoy like next year I'm going to prioritize like being able to golf a little more with my friends
I can't even believe you just said that I feel like that's actually insane I feel like that is
something that's quite important yeah I know you know you feel that way but yeah I do think
that's a good a good great thing okay wait one more before no and I reject everything you just
said. But one more question that we'll go on to podcast. Is there a habit or mindset you're leaving
behind in this past year? Okay. So I, in the end of this year, have been really working on
my relationship with my phone. I got a hatch alarm clock so that I don't sleep with my phone
beside my bed. And Joe and I have been puzzling at nighttime so that we have something to do
when we watch TV that's not scroll on Instagram. But I want to continue. I don't know if I'll
be able to leave that in 2025 because I just don't think that's realistic, but I want to continue
working on my relationship with phone and social media. I actually don't feel like I have
an unhealthy relationship with social media in terms of like a comparison mindset. I just feel like I
genuinely reach for it like as a like a thoughtless habit that I don't need to like I'll get in an
elevator and I'll try to open Instagram. What are you doing? You're going down seven floors. Like that's
insane. Yeah. So I want to work on that and I want to my other habit. So this is like a this is also like
like hybrid of a new year's resolution type thing yeah this is a hybrid of a new year's resolution
and my other one I think would be I don't know I want to work on like keeping a less cluttered
environment I do think we're actually pretty tidy but I just think I could I let things pile up
and then I do like a big tidy just trying to be more disciplined of being on top of it is a
habit I want to leave in 2025 I love that for you what about you
I think that would be great for me as well.
I will say that I need to, like the truth is I am very much a free spirit more of, I'm more of, you know, just like hippie-esque.
Like, I'm very chill person.
No, you're not.
You are and you are.
Like you are and you aren't.
No, I am.
And sometimes I lose.
that side of me um because i have i have serious psychological issues with with constantly
worrying about things going wrong like you have an intense level and anxiety i just can't like
i am instant like i go through pockets of every year when i say pockets months
just internally and outwardly panicking about things that just are a out of my control
and be like I do this every year and every year it's fine and I keep doing it so I need to work
on going back to who I truly am which you know is definitely more on the hippie chill for spirit
You are not chill or free-spirited.
You can be, but I wouldn't say you are at your core.
Yeah, and I want to, I need to spend a little more, I need to prioritize, like, um, more
nature.
I love that.
I would love to spend more time in nature.
I need, I need more time in nature to get back to my core of who, who, who you want
to be.
I, not who I want to be, who I really am.
I just don't know
why you think you're a chill free spirit of person
I am so chill
I would say you're chill with me
in our like relationship
I'm sure in general
but as a person you're pretty
you got some big feelings
and that's okay I love that about you
yeah but it's it's it's about how I
express those feelings
yes everyone has process those feelings
everyone has big feelings
yeah but you have a lot of big feelings
in one day
that are very different from one another.
They fight with each other.
Okay, let's talk a little bit about 2025 podcast.
And okay, so now we're going to review Happy Hour 2025.
All right.
So when you look back on this year,
what's a conversation or guest that really stood out to you?
Oh my God.
Are we doing our 2025 Bachelor Happy Hour wrap?
I love a rapt
Okay, let's give me one
Okay, wait
Can I just tell you something?
My number one Uber Eats order
On my Uber Rapt this year was
Chippole and I really would love for them
To send me a gold card
But I was only in the top 10%
And I think if I get into the top like 3%,
Maybe they'll do it
Tripoli if you're listening
How do you see you're wrapped?
You go to Uber, it was there
And it's called your Uber
I'm on Uber
Do you see it?
No
Oh, it might be gone now.
You might have missed it.
I might have missed it.
But this is the Bachelor Happy Hour 2025 wrapped, kind of.
Okay.
Which is so fun.
All right.
So is there, when you look back on this year, is there a conversation or guest that really stood out?
And now when we talk about this year, we have grant season of the Bachelor.
And then no Bachelorette.
Yes.
Bachelor in Paradise.
And Golden.
Yes.
And then obviously, like, the in-betweens, people that we know that have come on if any of those conversations stood out to you.
So, yeah, what would it, what would it be?
I'm going to have to go with our interview with Jeremy.
We got to do that in person at the IHeart Studio in New York, which was really nice for us because we don't get to do a lot of interviews in person.
And, I mean, I hate to say it was fun for us because, you know,
He was, like, really going through it, and there was a lot of opinions about his time on the show and the way he was acting.
But I do love it when we get the opportunity to give someone who's kind of in the heat of, like, who's going through it.
Going through it and, like, in the fire to sit down with them and give them the space to share their story.
And how they're handling it.
Yeah, how they're handling it, what they're going through.
I think it, he was, you know, he was open to being honest with us and we were excited to give him that space and we like Jeremy and yeah, I just thought that that felt good being like, oh, like we're going to use this podcast to give this guy his moment and that opportunity doesn't always present itself.
I completely agree. I agree. That's a good. That's a good call.
and there is just something about interviewing people in person that it just makes it like we could have good conversations over Zoom and we do but it just makes it a more I just feel like the guest is more comfortable I totally because sometimes you can't always pick up on our energy over you know this little laptop screen and
And, yeah, I think people could come on and be very, like, cautious of just us.
Yeah.
And it just makes it harder for people to want to open up, which I totally understand.
So there is that connection in person.
Yeah.
And, yeah, it looks like Bailey and Jeremy are still really happy, so happy for them.
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It's the season of giving, which is why my podcast is partnering with Give Directly,
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This year, we're taking part in the Pods Fight Poverty campaign.
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What's something about hosting the podcast this year that people might not realize?
I mean, there's so much.
I feel like we don't really dive into the behind the scenes of this podcast or how it works.
I guess something people might not realize maybe they do is like we fully set up and take down a podcast studio in our living room every single time we record this.
Like we have a light on us right now.
We have like full blown mic stands.
We have systems attached to a work laptop.
Like we're doing our audio on garage band.
And, like, we do, there's like a whole set in here right now to record this podcast that we literally set up and take down every recording.
It's also a very chaotic space right now, too, with like the Christmas tree and the lights and then my laundry.
Yeah, there's a lot going on.
There's a lot of way out off camera in this space.
Yeah.
But we do our best to make it look cute on Zoom.
And then you obviously always want to prep for anyone that you're interviewing, even though, like, we watch them on the show.
you want to get a little, you know, background into them.
But sometimes I like to do less because I like to learn as I go, like on the spot,
because I'm a very free-spirited, curious, very curious person that when someone says something
that I find intriguing, I want to know more.
Yeah.
Curious, George.
Curious Joe over here.
I'm losing my mind.
Is there something you've learned as a host about listening, asking questions, or just showing up for our conversations?
I could go first on that.
Okay.
Yeah, I would say from doing this podcast and interviewing people, definitely I've learned just, I don't think I was a really judgy person ever going into this, but like, you know, always sitting.
here being aware that
there are two sides to every story
and even if
the person is wrong
you know people make mistakes
and like I think it's just going into
every conversation not
being judgmental because
it's easy to do
and you watch something like
what reality TV is great at is
making you feel a certain way about a certain
person and it's like
these are people and they're
going through it and
even if they're not aware of the mistake they made like you know let's take it easy so i i think
it's just like giving people as much grace as possible because um none of us are perfect and like
sure it's easy for us now because we were um a successful story on the show and everything went
really well for us and we are in control of this podcast so we could kind of you know we have a
little more control but like it's you know being able to just like understand like hey it's just
not as easy for some people and some people don't get as lucky as we did and that's just um to just
be like mindful of that yeah i feel like anyone that comes on this podcast we never have any
preconceived plan to paint them in a certain life or light or make them come off a certain way
like we really want to be a blank canvas for them to come on and tell their story
their way so that people can see their point of view.
I think that my thing, from a more logistical perspective, is being prepared with questions
and like the main things that we want to get to the bottom of and ask these people, obviously
we want to be prepared and like know what the big topics are that we need to cover.
But when they're answering a question, like not being like, okay, and we need to talk about
this next.
So like we're going to ask this next, like really listening to what they're saying and letting
their answer
guide us
into what our next question is
so it doesn't just feel like
question answer question answer
of trying to make it feel fluid
and like a conversation
and you know
if they say something interesting
in their answer
like pulling that thread
yeah and I think that
that is one of the more challenging
that's I still struggle with that sometimes
and that's also the challenging part
of Zoom
and over and not in person interviews
doesn't feel as intimate or personal
it just makes it harder to get
But it makes it harder for the conversation to flow more organically and be able to pull things when Zoom is involved.
Cool.
Let's go one more.
And then we will wrap this thing.
Has doing this podcast changed how you think about Bachelor Nation or the people who come out of it?
I've kind of always had, for the most part, the same thoughts.
as far as like everyone's like like like I've I don't even know if I've ever had a a bad interaction with anybody off the show that I've that that's been on the show like even if you watch somebody you're like that person's a dick like I don't think I've ever had a bad yeah I would say I'm pretty much always pleasantly surprised by our guests yeah
And, like, I think that's a good thing for people watching to keep in mind is, like, even if you think you can't stand this person, you'll probably meet them in person and be like, oh, never mind.
Like, they're great.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely.
Great.
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