Bachelor Happy Hour - Jonathan's Crowning Moments!

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

Today on Happy Hour, Joe and Serena sit down with Jonathan from Joan's season. We kick off today's episode with the question Joe's been dying to ask: how does Jonathan maintain looking so young? We get his secrets to staying fit, including his morning routine.  Then, we get into all things Jonathan: from his divorce, to Joan, to his friendships with the men, we hear it all. And of course, we take a closer look at his Prom King moment and what that meant for him. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we are here today with one of Joe's final four men. Jonathan is here. Jonathan, you are in. So before every season, Serena and I pick our final four guys just based off of headshots. We're kind of inconsistent with it. to be honest. But this season, we picked just based off of headshots. And you're one of the guys that I picked.

Joe, I like that. I like that. So let's, well, first of all, how are you? Are you doing good? I'm doing good, man. You know, just living the dream, taking one day at a time. And, you know, all is good. How old are you?

I'm 61. All right. So let's talk about, like, routine. what what are you doing are you going to the gym every day what are you eating do you drink Joe is trying to find the secret to anti-a-j you look you look amazing oh I appreciate that okay so my secret my secret sauce is two cups of coffee every morning okay um coffee's already made I've said it for like 2 30 3 o'clock in the morning that way when I wake up about maybe four o'clock.

I just go grab a cup, sugar, creamer, crawl back in bed. And I savor that first cup with a lot of just kind of thinking about my day, do a little praying, do a little meditating. I could do that. That's so far. Okay, yeah.

You're going to have him up in bed next to me doing deep breathing and meditation at four in the morning now. Okay, so, okay. All right, so, Serena, the important thing is that you got to let them, You got to let him drink the coffee in silence. I'm totally fine with silence.

Yeah. Yeah. And then as far as like, you know, working out and stuff, you know, I try to get to the jam, you know, three to four times a week. I do five sets of 20 reps with incremental weight. So whether it's my chest, my arms, kind of like ignored my lower part of my legs. And so I need to focus on that. But yeah, that's kind of what I do it. Leg day, Jonathan.

I know. I skip like leg days are tough. And so, so I'm paying the price because I get a little lower back pains every now and then and my core could be stronger. But I'm a sweet tooth.

You know, if you put a dozen crispy creams in front of me, I'll eat all 12 just like that. Cream start, yeah. So I'll lie. You know, the secret to those is I had a friend whose dad worked in like corporate

for Krispy Cream. And I guess if you put them in the microwave for 10 seconds, they come out the exact same consistency as if they were freshly made in the store. So it's such a random fact. But when I was on the dance team in university, we used to do Krispy Kreme fundraisers because we had this hookup. And we would take the box home and we would put like one at a time, 10 seconds eat, 10 seconds eat. They're the best.

And they melt like butter in your mouth. I mean, it's like, you know what? You put one in and it's like you got to get another one. So yeah, yeah, they're good. Good stuff. So addicting. And then are you still working? Yep, I'm still working.

I work for kind of a consulting company, kind of in the shipping area, a lot of material, books and things like that. So, yeah, still working. And I'll probably, I'll probably be working until, you know, I've got my daughter's 16. My son is, he's in the seventh grade. So my plan is that I'll continue to work until they're both, they both have kind of on their own path and doing their own independent thing. How do your kids feel about you being on the Golden Bachelorette?

Well, at first they were shocked, you know, they were shocked because, you know, they had no idea of what, what this journey was going to be like. You know, they just know that it was a TV show and thinking that I was going to be on TV was a shock to them. But they're super happy, super ecstatic about it. My daughter, my 16-owned daughter, of course, you know, she's a little, you know, She wants to make sure that I'm not going to do anything crazy on TV that's going to embarrass her in front of her friends and things like that. And my son, you know what?

He's just a really thoughtful little guy. He's giving me some good feedback, you know, like some of the pictures, you know, hey, he'll say like, Dad, you look so handsome. And he's really proud of me. They're both proud of me and they're both happy about it. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah. How did you, how did you get on the show? It was just something that just kind of came out of the blue.

You know, a casting producer, kind of reached out through one of my social medias and saw some pictures of me and kind of through the idea out there to me. And I was shocked. I was like, you know, I mean, this was the point where I was like, okay, well, you know, I'm like the golden, the golden bachelorette. I didn't think about my age at the time, but I was like, There's no one that's going to be on the show that I'm going to be interested in because everyone's going to be older. And then it made me realize, it's like, well, wait a minute, Jonathan, you're 61 years old.

And then I related to Joan's story of she's 61. And so I actually listened to the program more. I watched it. I resonated with a lot of the topics. And so I entertained the thought about going on the show. I mean, it took me some time to really commit to it. But yeah, so that's how that's how it happened. What was dating life for you like before you went on?

Hit or miss, hit or miss, you know, being living in Oakland, Iowa, a town of about 1,500 people. There's no one in my dating pool. So, you know what? You know, I have to reach out to social media to see if I can connect with someone. And, you know, there was always the distance kind of a factor with me being in the small town. And so my last relationship lasted about a year, and I met a girl online, and she was from Norway. And I was pretty impulsive. And, you know, I end up flying over to Norway to meet her.

And she flew to the States and met me here a couple of times. And so it was a good relationship, but it was difficult because that's quite a distance. It's like over 4,000 miles away and a lot of things to consider. And so it became more of a kind of a fantasy kind of a thing that I was involved in. And it took me out of my reality. It took me out of my present day, my responsibilities of doing things for my kids, my job, and things like that. and so so the so the dating life has been kind of hit or miss it's always there's always been a distance kind of an issue with me um but you know what i've never given up on it though if um if you don't

mind me asking and if you don't feel comfortable answering this you know just say it um but how is your relationship like now with your ex-wife you know i'll say my uh i would have to say it's amicable, you know, that word amicable. It's amicable. I mean, there's, unfortunately, I have to say, I mean, there's really not a friendship because of the way things went down according to me and my book. My certain boundaries, my values, you know, from the moment that we decided to get married and have children, there was something there that, there was some things there that meant a lot to me. And in a sense, that was, you know, it wasn't what she wanted anymore. And it would probably be different. I mean, I wish there was a friendship,

but I think there are some things there that I'm not sure if it's because I'm a Scorpio, that once you cross the line with me, that there's, once you have bad blood, it's like, it's kind of no going back unless you can really have a conversation. and both people can be authentic and genuine about it with a lot of humility and humbleness. I mean, I'd still be open to that. But right now, I think it's just amicable. We're doing things for the kids, you know?

Aren't you a Scorpio? I'm a Scorpio, so I relate to you. Yes, yes, Scorpio power rule. Yes, it does. Well, I'm an Ares. They can fuck with me either. It's a little different. It's not the same.

Joe, Aries, I think I did an Ares once, and I think Scorpio's and Ariel Aries, I mean, we kind of bumped heads, so... They can. They can bump heads. We really don't. We really don't. We don't. But we're at exception. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of intensity, usually in the relationship with Aries and Scorpios.

Yeah. But did you watch the show or how familiar were you with the show before you went on it? The Bachelor or the Golden Bachelor? The franchise in general. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. from the from day one when when the bachelor came out i was watching i was a big fan of it do you have like a favorite season you could think of or a favorite past lead i think my favorite season um uh gosh you know what i was i was really impressed with the uh with the is the dale and rachel

season dale and cla cla cla cla cla cla cla cla yeah yeah yeah i mean i was i mean you know dale's is pretty cool looking dude when you walked out of the limousine you know he just had this strut to him he had this nice smile and he just knocked claire off her feet and she's like I think I just met my husband I was like that moment was like something and uh that was that was my favorite I think that was one of my favorites yeah that was a really iconic moment yeah yeah that was a special one unfortunately for them it didn't work but I think they're both right right right but the moment still stands yeah well they're both happy I think they're both yeah yeah and you know what that and that was that was my whole thing like with the blindfold is like I believe in love at first sight and so

that kind of moment is like you know that's that's what I was like envisioning you know that if if Joan and I's Joan and my eyes met for the first time and we had that kind of connection you know that's what I was looking for you know because that's a that's a very powerful first moment between two people when you feel that it doesn't have to be you know forced or anything like that. So yeah, so that was, that was one of my favorites. I like that. I like that moment inspired your entrance. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.

Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

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Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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Do you have like a type as Joan similar to the type of woman that you usually date? Yeah, I mean, you know, she's blonde. She's got the tall, thin frame, sparkly blue eyes, great smile. You know, and she has a certain sense of grace and classiness about her. So that's kind of like my style. So going back to that moment of stepping out of the limo, what was, was there a spark between you and Joan immediately? Did you feel that?

I think there was. You know, I mean, when I, from the moment I got into limo, I put the blind phone on because I didn't want to see the ride up there. I didn't want to see Joe. Yeah, I didn't want to see Joan as the limo pulled up. I mean, I was completely blindfolded on the ride to that moment. So when I stepped out, I mean, I was, I was anxious. I was nervous.

And then when I heard, you basically kidnapped yourself. Self-sabotized. I think they call that. You're like, I can't see. They're taking me to an unknown location. They're going to keep me there for days. Yeah, yeah. I remember there saying like, okay, yeah, we're going to open the door.

And I heard the door open. I didn't know which direction I was going to be stepping. I mean, the only thing that was guiding me to Joan was Joan's voice. And so it was like a leap of faith. It was like a big risk. And so with every step, I was hoping that I was going in the right direction. And then the moment she reached out and grabbed my hand, there was a certain sense of, that was the first connection. I mean, her voice.

And then when she grabbed my hand, it was like I felt a certain sense of security and safety with her. and then being in that moment and knowing that I was in front of her was a very surreal moment then I said what I had to say kind of like the deer in the headlight moment and I got it out and then when she took the blindfold off

I mean I was just so overwhelmed with the motion that I was actually there in that moment it was real, it was surreal and I saw her eyes for the first time and I felt the connection I did feel a connection with her you know and then um whatever has to follow after that was like you know up to both of us so

wow you really yeah i feel like you really experienced experienced you were really in the moment in that moment because there's so many people that we asked that question to and myself being one of them where it's like you act like i think a lot of people really black out during that yeah the most common answer is like oh my gosh i don't even know what i said i don't even remember it i just completely blacked out because the nerves and the anticipation are so so high, but yeah, it does sound like, especially with the blindfold, you were really in the moment kind of taking, taking it all in, very present. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

So you step into the house and then you realize, oh, wait, there's a bunch of other guys here. What was, what was that like meeting the guys? Did you think you were going to get along with everybody? Yeah, it was, well, it was nerve-wracking for me because it kind of took me back to, almost like my high school days because, you know, I was, you know, I was, I mean, I was a kid that had low self-esteem issues. And so put myself in a group of people for the first time is like comparing myself to other people. And so in this particular proud of guys, I'm like,

you know, I'm comparing myself to, well, what does this guy do? You know, is he retired? Does he have a business and blah blah so i'm i'm kind of going my mind space you know just having a bunch of monkey mind about things um but there was a lot of laughter there was a lot of camaraderie from the instance um and uh you know you you know you got 24 guys that are like in their 60s and above and there's a certain sense of maturity that you know what i was able to like get over that and uh and just kind of break the ice with everybody and so um so yeah it was it was a fun night it was a fun night. Were there any guys, we see Keith gets the first impression, Rose. Were there any guys that you thought stood out their relationship with Joan that made you a little nervous immediately?

Other than myself? Yeah. Other than yourself. Yeah. You know, if you were sized it, you know, if you, because I, I would feel the same way. You know, you want it. It's still, there's still a competition aspect to it and you walk in the house and there there's 20 something guys trying to date one woman and you're like well but if she likes him I don't know if she's going to like me kind of a thing right right I get you um there were I would have to say there were like two uh well one mark in the uh you know mark it's like you know what you know I think all the guys kind of knew that uh you know marks there uh because Kelsey is like you know kind of put him in that position with her hometown and fans kind of was just already automatically attracted to him and so

it was good to see mark there and so um so that was one guy that i felt that uh might have stood out in jones's mind and then the other one was pascal because pascal has got the you know the the french the french accent um you know and then this whole demeanor is like okay well you know is she going to be attracted to and an accent and uh you know this kind of flamboyant personality um So those were the couple guys that I was say in the beginning that I thought probably was going to catch Jones eye. Were you making Pascal smoothies? Did you stick to that?

No, no, no, no, no. No, not me. I'm not the one. I am not the one to do that. Pascal's like there's no one working in this house. Well, the other guys, they'll be working for me now. Right, exactly. I mean, that whole personality of being high maintenance, I mean, was like 100%

Pascal, that's for sure. It was entertaining. I can say that. It was very entertaining. Let's go to the prom date. You obviously shined on that date. We saw you won prom king with Joan, which was an amazing moment. We also saw that you didn't go to your prom. What did that date mean to you? It seemed like it might have been kind of a healing experience. Yeah, it was it was definitely a healing experience because, you know, back in high school, 1981. I mean, you know, I had the courage to, you know, ask her girl out to prom. I mean, prom was a big thing, a new experience, first time experience, you know. And I had the courage to ask, and it was accepted. And so I felt, I felt accepted. I was excited about going. And then, like, the week before the prom, I mean, she decided not to go and that just crushed me.

And as I said in the show, it's like, you know, 43 years later, I'm going to my first prom. And it was a, that was a spiritual experience for me. I was happy, ecstatic about it, you know, and had the opportunity to share that story with Joan. And she listened and she cared about it. And so, yeah, it was a great experience. And at this point in the show, like that night, like after that night, where are your feelings at with Joan?

Are you, are they getting serious? Yeah, yeah, I was getting seriously. You know, I felt like I felt like her king. I mean, you know, I felt like, you know what? She validated me. And, you know, she made me feel special, you know, to be chosen as the king, you know, over all the other guys that were there on the date

because, you know, everybody was there dressed up and their, you know, their best gear that we had to choose from, doing all the dance moves. Everyone had their chance A little one-on-one time with her Whether it's taking pictures with her Or holding her hand, taking her out to a game And so what I had to say with her

resonated with her And when she said my name I mean, that just Oh my God It still makes me a little emotional When I think about when she said Jonathan Yeah, it was a beautiful moment I was really happy with that

So you weren't expecting it You weren't expecting her to call you for Prom King I think everyone has to be I mean I was expecting it I think I think probably each of the other guys was probably expecting it but just kind of shocked when it's when it's yeah kind of shocked because you know because I think it it probably took me back to my high school days like you know what it's like

well she's not going to pick me is that low self-esteem kind of thing that no matter how well dressed I was or tried to be or the dance moves that I tried to be or or engaging and attractive that I tried to be that she's not going to pick me. There's always going to be somebody better than me. And that's what I grew up with as a teenager, 20s and 30s, and the fact that she called my name was exciting.

Nice. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school. a week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both the meets. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years.

years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the I-Hare Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.

Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. All right. So let's jump to the current episode. And you are the guy that gets a one-on-one. And we see you're a little upset because you felt more comfortable going on the group date. And, you know, I think it's, it's your nerves of potentially going on the one-on-one date with Joan and potentially going home from that one-on-one date. But, yeah, just walk us through your thought process in that moment. Yeah, in a sense, as odd as it sounds, is like I wanted to go on the group date because I know what it means to go on a one-on-one date that if there's not a connection and you don't get that rose, I mean, then that journey ends.

And, you know, I was like, I wasn't ready for my journey to end. And so I wanted to play it safe and go on that group date. And so when my name was called or to, or that I knew that I was going on the one-on-one date with Joan, I was like, oh, my God. I was excited, but I was really, really terrified, you know. I mean, to the point that I was like, I was actually seeing myself. not getting the rows on the one-on-one date. So, yeah, yeah, it was scary. Yeah, I can imagine.

And then, so you guys are riding horseback riding. Yes. And then, do you remember the moment where Joan sees a hawk and it reminds her of her husband? You know, I can faintly, I can faintly remember that because, I mean, there was, just this open, open territory of all this, this beautiful landscape. And, um, you know, we're, we're, I'm trying, I'm trying to keep up with her on my horse, you know, with some odd reason, you know, I, I didn't know whether to kick, kick my, my feet, the horse on the side to get them to go a little faster. But she, uh, she had the lead.

So, um, but I, I do frankly remember her saying something, um, about a hawk. Um, And those little moments like that, I think at that moment, I think it was, I was just caught up in the spirituality of that, of that experience because it was just so open. I have Native American in my background, Chippewa and Ojibway, Blackfoot on my father's side. And so those little symbols of like a hawk. And actually, too, on the ride there, once we got in to that. to that area, I remember my head was kind of pressed against the window, just looking out. And this dragonfly just came out of nowhere, like hovering on the outside of the window, like looking at me. Like, who are you? Why are you here? What's your purpose? He was just hovering,

and then all of a sudden just vanished and blew away. And at that moment, it made me think, gosh, who am I? Why am I here? What's my purpose? What's my purpose? purpose and that moment, that connection of like, I'm here for Joan. And it was a really, really spiritual experience for me. And to hear the, you know, the symbol of them, symbolism, you know, what the hawk meant for Joan. And being out in that moment was a really special moment. It sounds like you guys really were able to connect on this date. We'll get more into, you know, the conversation you had later on about your divorce with you. Joan, but just during the day portion, it seems like you guys are having an amazing time.

Were you still feeling that fear of what if I don't get the rose at the end of this? Or were you able to kind of let go of that? Yeah, that completely left my mind. You know, I was, I was like in the moment. I was completely present with Joan. I was completely present with the nature, present with the horses. And I was, what was on my mind was to see where our connection is going to go from this, from this, this ride. and so I wasn't thinking about the rose

I was just trying to be I was just trying to be there in the moment and present with Joan just to give her as much of Jonathan as much as she needed to see who I was as a guy Serena and I were just in Copenhagen

there was this beautiful moment where a hornet came up and then it fucking stung me in my hand it wasn't a beautiful moment it was the hornet telling me I shouldn't have gotten the cheeseburger. I'm still really upset about that. And the night portion with Joan.

I don't think that's the same. But thank you for sharing that. Of course, of course, guys. The night portion with Joan, we do see you be more vulnerable and open up and talk about your divorce. How is that received? And yeah, just talk us through that moment.

Yeah, that was a tough situation to kind of open up that. that wound, so to speak. But you know what? Were you expecting to have that conversation this soon? Yeah. Okay. For me, for me, it was like the one-on-one, from what I've seen in the shows in the past,

you know, that one-on-one, that date, you're looking for vulnerability. You're looking to share something that's really, really happened in your life that's impact, that impacted your life, the hurt, the pain, the vulnerability, to be honest, to share that, no matter what the risks, that if you share it, you don't know if it's going to be rejected or not. And so there's no way to hide my divorce, you know. What happened happened. I recovered from it, and I'm a single father.

I'm doing the best I can from my kids. for myself um and so how it happened i mean you know there's other details that i you know i wanted to make sure that i you know i wanted to make sure that i i didn't say anything out of my own hurt that's going to in a sense be negative towards my ex-wife you know um and but i wanted joan to to know that um and i think that in sharing some of those details that the pain and the hurt is just kind of naturally just come out as I said. And she picked up on that. And it felt good that she was very receptive of that.

And she cared about that. She cared about my feelings, you know. And so, yeah, so that was a very important reveal for me. Because, you know, there was a lot that I wanted to let her know that, you know what? The moment that I proposed to my wife, I was ready for the commitment, the moment that that we decided to have children. I was ready to be a father. So I wanted her to see those values in me of what I wanted.

And for me and my values, it's like, you know what, the ups and the downs, that's what commitment means to me. The ups and the downs, the good and the bad, whatever, we get through it together. And it just doesn't, for me, ending the relationship or the friendship in a divorce, just it completely blindsided me. Yeah, that's rough.

You talked about the comparison of packing your bags after your marriage had ended and also packing your bags to go on the one-on-one date. What was that moment like? Did you feel like it was kind of healing in any way? Do you feel like it was really traumatic? That was a rough moment because there was something that I felt that I wasn't worthy. And everyone would sit around the couch area and I just snuck out. Like, no one even noticed that I left.

And I was like, okay, you know what? I felt that feeling before. No one's going to notice if I leave. And I went upstairs and I started packing my bags because I made the decision that I was ready to leave. And the moment that I unzipped my... my suitcase. It was almost like I opened a wound in my heart. And it brought me back to the divorce where the moment that I had to pack my bags and get out of the house was that feeling.

And in a sense, I was unzipping my luggage to pack to get out of the house. And if you don't want someone to see your hurt, you know, they're not going to see it. So, yeah. So, yeah, I'm, thank you, thank you for bringing that up because that was very, you know, because that was a very important moment for me. Yeah. I feel, I feel like your journey, like this has been, to this point has been a roller coaster for you. And then receiving the rose after your date with Joan, did that validate your feelings? And did you feel like this could actually be my person? or at the very least a sense of acceptance from her oh yeah yeah totally validated when i got the rose after all of those emotions and things like that it's like you know what i said to myself jonathan it's okay whatever happens after this point it's okay you got the rose you know what she sees something in you um she cares about you to keep you um so at that point i was like well whatever happens

happens. I felt validated and I was going to be okay with whatever outcome happens. So at the end of the day you were happy to not be on the group date. Oh yeah. I still wanted to go on that group. You would have did great on that kickball date.

Well, you know what? From what I've seen, I'm glad I didn't go because if I would have pulled a hamstring or like, you know, frashed, you know, my face in the ground, something like that. No, horseback riding's a little more. Yeah, now you, you, you, romantic and comfortable. You won this episode.

That was the one to get. Okay, we're going to play a little game. Oh, rapid fire. Get to know me with Jonathan. Uh-oh. It's all just easy, easy questions. First thing that comes to your mind. Rapid fire.

Uh-oh. All right. What's your favorite food or cuisine? Steak. What's your go-to comfort movie or shell? Judge Judy. What's one thing you would tell your younger self? Be honest.

What's your favorite way to spend the day off? Napping. What's a deal breaker for you? Smoking. If you could have any superpower, what would it be? Flying. What is your go-to drink at a bar? I don't drink.

But do you want my go-to drink that I did drink? Yeah. Okay. Grandma Ney. When did you stop drinking? 21 years ago. Okay. And then so if you were to go out for dinner, what's your drink of choice that's not alcoholic?

Coke with a wedge of line. What's the best concert you've ever been to? Prince. What's your go-to karaoke song? Oh, God. Um, aye, aye, aye. Under the Bridge by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh, I love that song.

What's the most adventurous thing you've done? Just go to Norway. What is your love language? Physical touch and acts of service. If you could describe Jones season of the Golden Bachelorette in what word, in one word, what would it be? In one word. In one word. Jones season.

Amazing. Jonathan, thank you very much for taking the time out of your day and chatting with us. It was really fun getting to know you. And I can't wait to watch more of you on this season. Yeah, we're excited to see. where your journey with Joan goes. Thanks for coming on today. Yeah, guys. Thanks for having me. And guess what I'm going to do after this? One of my favorite things that you just asked. I'm going to take a nap.

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