Bachelor Happy Hour - Jonathon & Rachel: Flirty Friends or The Perfect Match? | Happy Hour

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” Rachel is sitting down with Jonathon Johnson from Season 10 of “Paradise.” The two kick things off with a full “Paradise,” debrief; was there any potential for him and Jill? Then, we discuss the upcoming season of “The Bachelorette,” and Jonathon gives us his true, unfiltered opinions. We also get into his upcoming Iron Man, where each of them were in 2016, and their favorite parts about being in the Bachelor world. Plus, both Rachel and Jonathon share some dating updates you won’t want to miss. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Everyone welcome Jonathan from Season 10 of Bachelor in Paradise. Is that right? Season 10. Jonathan, welcome. It's just going to be you and me today. Sweet. We have a lot to discuss. Nothing more that I would ask for.

A lot to go over. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. So, let's catch up. Jonathan and I are going to talk all things Iron Man today. No, we are not talking about. Because he loves to work out. We're talking all things being single and dating and maybe flirting a little bit.

Oh, he wants to talk about dating. Okay. Yep. So walk me through. I know we've all watched you on season 10 of Bachelor of Bachelor in paradise. Yep. What happened?

I mean, I think I've said this like a thousand times now, but it's like I feel like there's a lack of reality and reality TV these days. And I'm not going to just go on. So you think everyone there is fake? I don't think they're fake, but I think there's some circumstances. And I'm not saying from my season, I think just reality TV as a whole where people put on for the show. And I just, I'm not going to play with somebody's emotions like that just because I'm on

a show. You know what I mean? example. Who was fake on your season? Well, I don't know if anybody is fake. Honestly, there's a good amount of people that ended up staying together, which is awesome. I know. You guys had a really successful season. Yeah. You know who I really love watching postseason is Andrew and Alex.

Yep. I think I could never have picked a more compatible couple. And watching them, I don't know, on the season, they gave us a little bit, but watching them after has been so entertaining. And Spencer and Jess moved in together? They did. Yeah. They're moving. Is it to...

They're in Dallas. In Dallas. And where does she live before? San Diego. I love that. See, there's so much love on that season, would you ever do it again? No. Why not?

Don't quote me on that, that, but no. Why not? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I loved the way the first time around went that much. What do you mean? I just was... I think I was more hopeful than...

I got, does that make sense? I waited, I mean, I waited 10 months to be on that show, and then I got there, and I was just, like, not super stoked about anybody. I feel like there was a lot of pressure on you, especially, because your job for, like, months and months was just, like, about to go on Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah. Build us hype. Yeah. Build us hype. Let people know you're going, and just dance for us until you get there. And then I got there, and then I'm like, I don't like anybody. Like, what do you guys want me to do?

Yeah. I feel like maybe if there were more women your age, it would have worked out and this is what I tell Jill because for everyone who doesn't know Jill is my best friend and I feel like you guys kind of like got let down a little bit with the amount of people that were there

because on my season it was like every day there were four new people and we already had such a big cast and I couldn't even find anyone in that kind of a setting but I think that would have been better if you guys had a little bit more of some young energy on the beach

probably Probably, probably. But, like, again, you got to make the best with, like, what you're given. I think I gave everything, like, an honest try. Like, anytime somebody asked me on a date, I was just open-minded. I was like, hell yeah, I'm going to fucking go and do my thing and just have fun and see what comes of it. And at the end of day, like, I'd rather just let it be known early on rather than wait and just be like, oh, maybe. Nope, I'm just going to.

Yeah. Do you feel like you gave it an honest try with Jill? Do I think I gave it an honest try with Jill? You guys could have been a fun couple. We would have had a lot of fun together. I would have liked to watch that. I just don't think we're compatible in that way. But I think just like if we partnered up like how Leah and I did and it was just like funny to watch, I think Jill and I would have had fun in the same way.

Should we have came off on a hotter start? I love Leah. Oh, me too. Leah, we need to get her on the podcast, Us Three. That would be such a fun episode. Lay and I together are a dangerous duo. Speaking of. Paradise. We're going to have all of Taylor Frankie Paul's guys.

Sweet. And the next Bachelor's Girls, what are your thoughts on Taylor's season? Okay, okay, this is, this is going to be a semi-hot take. But I think the only reason I'm a little skeptical of it is because, and usually I'm like, for the girl's side, rah-rah is like if the things that surrounded like what she has done in the past were a guy, I think everybody would be like, are you kidding me? there's no way he's allowed to be the bachelor. So you don't think she should be the bachelorette? It's not that.

I just, I think that it's a difficult scenario given her past to be in that position and then expect people to either overlook it or come in completely open-minded. It's hard to because she's such a big presence in, like, reality TV now. So it would be really hard to find guys that are just, like, fully just like, They haven't heard anything about it. They're not worried about it. And they come in and they just do their thing.

I think, well, I see what you're saying. Like, what parts of that do you mean? Like, because she's a mom. Because we've had, like, mothers. Yeah, no, that's not even about them. I think it's more like the drama of it. Like the things that have happened. Like, being like, and again, this is more of a question.

Like, openly a, like, swinger, right? Did they swing, though? I thought it was like. Something like that, right? Soft swinging. Did they fully swing? I will say, and, I mean, you have a different standpoint.

Obviously, I was never on your side. But I feel like Taylor coming in and all the men already know these things about her, they're actively choosing to be there. And I think Taylor, what she's looking for is someone who knows all these things about her and still wants to be with her. Right? So I think Taylor was lucky because they had a long casting process where they knew it was her. And for a lot of us, the men kind of go in.

Not knowing? Yeah. Did you know what was Jen? I knew once I was like sequestered. Right. So a lot of us like. But beforehand, no. I didn't know going into it.

Well, same. Yeah. Clayton, it was so last minute we found out. So the men who are showing up, they have to be showing up for her. True. Or this might be like the biggest season of are you here for the right reasons or not, which I hate that narrative. But like I feel like it's not going to be more relevant than this season.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So you think a lot of people will be there looking for something else. I don't know if that's a fact, but I think we'll be able to tell pretty readily who is and who isn't. Because again, now the hot take aside of me seeing things switched and her relationship issues in the past or whatever it might be that's all publicly out there. I mean, I've heard things from her. I haven't had the chance to meet her yet, but everybody that surrounds her says how awesome she is and how sweet she is. I think she's very deserving of love and that she should find somebody and I hope this season ends that way.

But I'm a little skeptical of the guys coming in for sure. Interesting. I like how you said that too because I feel like every season, even on my season, I was like, are you actually here? Yeah. Because you want to just get far and be the bachelor. Are you here because you want to go to paradise? But now you have an added element where it's like, are you here just because you want to be on Mormon wives? And that's a whole...

100%. So now you have to, like, incorporate the fact that like these guys, whoever gets chosen is not only going to win the Bachelorette, but also have to be incorporated into Mormon wives at some capacity. So it's like that is a very slippery slope as like looking at like, okay, this could make my life. Let's say you stick it out for two years and then I'm good. And then I could just hurt this poor girl.

You know what I mean? Like that's something I, if I was her friend or her friend, her brother or her dad, whatever, I would be like, all right, who the, did you pick? And, like, are they actually here? Because it'd be really hard to tell, I think. You know, that's such a good point because I think, yeah, we've done reality TV, but doing the type of reality TV that Mormon wives do where it's like every bit of their life and their relationship struck, like, their struggles, their family struggles and everything is brought to the public. Like, that's a lot to sign on for.

Yeah. So they're fully signing on for not only like a future with her, but like your entire life being picked apart. I never thought about it that way. It's a very good take. But hot takes aside too. Like at the very least, it's going to be so entertaining watching her because she's a pistol. Dude, she is always just on one.

Yeah. And I don't think she's going to put up with a lot of shit. So like as soon as the guys start acting up, I just know she's just going to let loose. Do you think she's just going to be like setting people home left and right? Like before the rose ceremony? I hope so. Honestly, that would be entertaining the watch. She's like, yeah, no, you're out.

Before you even get to row ceremony, she's like, screw the rose ceremony. I know I don't like this, dude. Get out of here. How do you think the public is going to react to that? Because, like, on my season, I sent someone home on the first one-on-one and, like, I couldn't recover. Like, they hated me. I don't think she cares. I love that.

Is the best part. Like, she wouldn't have put herself in this position. Like, again, for like, even like, my skepticism of what I said, she knows that that's going to come. You know what I mean? I just don't think she cares. Which is awesome. Amazing. Yeah, I mean, like, yes, I'm going to point out the things that, like, I'm skeptical of,

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I love to talk about working out. No, I do not. Yeah. So tell us, how did this all come to be? When did you decide that you were going to run? How many miles is this? Do you actually want me to, like, go into depth on this? What else do you want to talk about?

All right, well, okay. Do you know what I'm working out with Joey? Sorry. All right, we're going to do this like as a quick rundown because I know the girls at home do not care about my iron. Jonathan, this is a huge part of your life and you should share it with the people. It is. You've been working so hard. And I do work very hard.

I'm very proud of it. Exactly. So tell us. But this is one of those things that I don't do for other people. I do it for my own like, I don't know. Like I set goals in life to progress. and I've been working out since I was like 14, 15, and I hit every goal in the gym that I've ever wanted to hit.

Like, I don't need to be the biggest guy. I don't care about that. Like, I just want to look good and feel good in my own skin. And I got to that point. So I just started kind of going through the motions at the gym, and I was like, I need something else to fight for. And originally I was like, oh, should I do a marathon? And I was like, no, everybody in their mom does a damn marathon.

Like, we're not doing a marathon. So I was, no, literally, I was like, I don't want to be like everybody else. Oh, my God. You're so different. Like, he's not like other roles. So I was like, you know what? I can do a triathlon. And then I looked at the miles on it and I was like, that is so easy.

What is the mileage for those of us at home who don't know, including myself? So triathlon is a 0.8 mile swim, a 8 mile run and like a 26 mile bike ride or something. But the Iron Man that I'm doing ends up being, it's a 2.4 mile swim, a 100,000. A 112 mile bike ride and a full marathon at the end. So you do all that and then you get out of the pool and you run? Yeah, so I'll swim 2.4 miles. It takes about two hours. And then I'll get out and then I'll go bike 112 miles.

It just takes about seven hours. And then I'll go run a full marathon, which could be three to four hours. All in one day. You just want to do this for fun. I want to do it to push myself. I love this for you. We have a singular life. I don't want to just sit there and just be like, oh yeah, I went to the gym for my entire life.

No, I want to achieve something that other people just haven't done. or don't think to do. I think it's really freaking cool. And the kind of people that do it, like, there's just like a shimmer of like, wow, you made time in your life to achieve something great. Yeah, that takes a lot of discipline. And it translates into the rest of my life, too.

Like, if I'm not progressing just physically and mentally, like everything else kind of like takes a step back. So I'm pushing for something like this. I know my professional life, my personal life, my romantic life are all just going to be pushed in the right direction as well. Wow. But that's just, that's a personal thing for me. Like, not everybody's going to be able to relate to that, but I know for me it's just like something that makes me happy and that I love.

I love that. What's like the hardest out of the swimming running and biking? Swimming. For sure. I don't think I could swim more than a couple laps. It's hard as hell. Yeah. That takes like your full body.

Yeah. How do you not get to like the point of exhaustion? And then you have to go ride a bike? It's crazy too because you're sitting there for like hours and like it's just you in your head. And you're literally just going, you're not tired. You're not tired. You're not tired. What do you think about in the pool?

That's pretty much it. I go just... You're just looking at the black line. I've never stuck harder to, like, you know, when people would just cornerly say, like, one step after the other, like, mine is like one stroke after the other. I'm like, one, one, one. That's absolutely crazy. Yeah. And the chafing has to be, like, wild.

No, no chafing. What the hell? When you're running after that, you're, like, soaking one? Oh, I mean, I haven't had to do that yet, so I don't know. Have you ever done, like, it all together yet? Or how much longer do you have? No, I mean, it's something that takes a product. Like, I'm doing my first half in May.

So I took what? Half Iron Man? So I'm doing. That's coming up. Yeah, five months of training up to that point, five or six. And then I gave myself a year to do the full. Wow. Yeah.

Do you have, like, a reward for yourself after it's all done? I'm going to go travel a bit and literally eat and do whatever the hell I want for like a month. Where are you going to travel? I think I'm going to do Japan, Greece, and then France. Ooh. Yeah, I have a bucket list spot in France that I've been wanting to go to forever. Where is it? It's called Mont Saint-Michel.

It's like this island castle right off like the beaches of France. This is so Bachelor of you. You want to go to a castle and have dinner? I do. That sounds very romantic. I mean, I would love to go with my person. I don't have a person. Yeah, what's your dating life like?

What's my dating life like? I've been actively dating and it's been fun. Yeah. How are you like meeting people? Are you in the apps? Never had a dating app to this day. Really? No, I like to...

Not on Hinge? Nope. I like to go up to people at events or at a coffee shop or like a grocery store. Have you met anyone in a grocery store? Yeah. You just walk up and introduce yourself. I feel like people think of it as like rocket science. It really is.

It's not though. I walk in with my headphones in. I look at the ground. I think yeah, I think it's just like one of those things. If you just confidently walk up and you're not a freaking creeper and you're just like you smile. introduce yourself and just ask for their name and you start a conversation like it's really not hard like it's just an organic thing and if they don't want to give you the time of day okay thank you i appreciate your time and then you move on like it's not scary i just like cannot imagine that actually happening

in a grocery store what's your like pickup line i genuinely do you pretend to like look at the same item that they're looking at no no because that's that's where you start overthinking i think you think like Okay, okay, genuinely, genuinely the problem that I think most dudes have is like they'll come in with this like idea like even like out at the bars. Let's say their goal is to like sleep with somebody or to get their number or this could be my wife. Well, now they're thinking of like what it takes to make that happen rather than what step one is. So they're worried about trying to jump up 20 stairs versus like just stepping on stair number one. And what's there number one? Hi, I'm Jonathan.

Are you hitting on me? Yeah, always. Literally always, Rachel. Wow. Wow. It's like, it's not that hard. And I'm a firm believer. If somebody wants to talk to you, they're going to talk to you.

Like, it doesn't matter what you say. You can be like, I poop my pants. And if they, like, really want to talk to you, they're going to still talk to you. Really? Yes. Do you think a lot of men just get nervous? Or like, do you, like, because I want to say, as a woman, a single woman, when I go out, I feel like guys don't, like, approach me.

That's because you're hot. No. It is. No, it's not. I promise. I swear to. But what is it? Do you think now men are more nervous? Like, because we have the dating apps and we have Instagram and that's usually their first form. People have lost like that social interaction side of like knowing how to approach people in like a human-like way.

Yeah. They don't know what to say. They walk up and they're like weird or nervous about it, especially when you're attractive. Like the last thing I'm going to like want if I'm that guy is to be rejected by this beautiful woman that I was already questioning if I could get anyways. You know what I mean? Yeah. Versus if like you just don't think about it and you're not worried like you just hey You're making me nervous Why I'm just joking but no I get I get I'm sweating

It's a hot in here oh oh my gosh should we elope in in Montesie Michelle? Go with a Rachel fall in love any lope on Mount St. What are your thoughts at a lot? Do you want to come with me to Mont Saint-Michel? Maybe I do love escargo just be bachelor coated as hell. Yeah, Yeah, my season, we went to France. So it could be a full circle moment. Also, okay, wait, back to the travel and the Iron Man. Yes.

The Iron Man that I'm doing in Hawaii takes place out of the hotel I stayed at for overnights on Jen season. You're lying. So May 30th, I was in Hawaii filming for Jen season. May 30th is the Iron Man in Hawaii at the same hotel. Something is going to happen there for you. Insane. That's crazy. Yeah, you won't like show up and just like,

Someone has to get engaged in Hawaii. It would redo the whole engagement. Where, like, on the beach. Is that where she got engaged? I can't remember. I don't know. That's crazy, though, that it's at the same hotel. The end of that.

I don't like the way it played out. Tell me about it. You don't like the way it played out? Yeah, I can imagine for you. I still haven't watched all of it back out of respect to you. Out of what? How all of this stuff played out. I haven't, like, looked too much into your lore.

Oh, thank God. I can tell you what my lore is. I'm crying the entire time, especially on my season. I don't think there was a day I didn't cry. Really? Yes. I wish you could have seen the behind the scenes of Paradise.

I cried twice because I was just like not happy. I did hear that you cried. So many times. I did hear that you cried before Paradise aired. Oh, yeah, multiple times. Yeah. Multiple. I think one thing that doesn't show is I'm very like sensitive.

Like genuinely. No, but like not. Like, yes, it's good in some ways. But then there's other times when I'm like, nobody here likes it. me the girls are mad that I have friends on them and I just just like that's not true no I but I I'm I'll beat myself I'm my like own biggest enemy yeah so like I'll sit there and I'll just think I'm like letting everybody down and then I'm just like slur-sobby oh my gosh wait this is emotional I'm

to start crying I want to redo for you paradise season 11 no all of the girls from our future bachelor season can't I just come down and give the guys that are struggling advice I just prefer that position instead what would your advice be it depends on the scenario Do they like somebody that somebody else has? I don't know. I don't know. Do people, like, are they not interested in them? I don't know.

Do you feel like those are the two things that you struggle with? What? People not being interested in me? Well, people were interested in you. But you liked people who were in other couples or? Yeah, I did until, like, I got to know them. And I was like, it's just, like, not, we're not compatible. Like, I looked further than the show.

You know what I mean? And like from the show perspective, like, yeah, it's convenient right here because we're here on a beach for a month. Like, hell yeah, I want to have fun and meet you guys and hang out. But like post show, like, do I want to ask you to pick up your life? Do I want to do distance? Do I want to do all these things? Do our personalities match? Yeah.

And for all of them is, I didn't think about that. I didn't think about that when I was there. Yeah. And people can easily be like, oh, love has no bounds. Like if it's your person, I'm like, well, odds are my person just wasn't there. Yeah, that's so true. So, you know, she was sitting in a chair across from me, but, you know, I'm kidding. All right, this interview has to end.

I'm sweating now. Does it? I'm getting nervous. Did we already talk to me? Nervous. Can we play a game? What do you want to talk about? I don't know.

Rachel, what's your dream date? I feel like, I don't know, since I've been the Bachelorette, I've already had, like, all the dream type dates. Now, peel back all the BS of. the perfect dates that The Bachelor puts out there. What would you want? Like perfect scenario. I come pick you up. We just go have a good Rachel day.

What does that look like? I don't know. I'm trying to think probably like doing something like a museum. Okay. I love any sort of like natural history. Maybe not like art. I'm not a huge art person. And then going and maybe getting a nice drink at a wine bar.

watching the sunset and then going to bed by 9 p.m. Perfect. So that's my dream date now. But like it doesn't need to be this big extravagant thing. Like you're going to go to bed smiling because you can be like, wow, that was an awesome day. Do you feel like because we go on like so many fantasy like dates,

like dating now? It's so much different. I enjoy the little things on a date more. Me too. I love going to an arcade. I love going to like a, Hole in the wall. Do you play Dance Dance Revolution?

No. What's your arcade game? I'm disgusting a guitar hero. Do they have that at the arcade? I've never seen Guitar Hero. I play every song on expert. It's like my nerdiest quality. Really?

Yeah, it's not. And like, I would want to be like, oh, like, should we just like mess around and like try this game out? And then you'd be really good at it. Yeah, just go out. I used to play that, but I could never do all four at the same time. I could only do the three at the top. That's not that bad.

I feel like that that would just give the ick, though. If I couldn't play more than great words. No, no, no, no, me going hard, I'd be like, oh, should we just like play this game? And then you look over and I'm just jamming out. No, I love ski ball. I'm just not, no, I'm terrible at ski ball. You're not going to ski ball. I Heart Radio is throwing it back.

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walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks. And we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff, identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore, loss that changes you, purpose when success isn't enough, peace when your mind won't slow down, fake when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said,

I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. So keep this secret for so many years. He's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage.

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It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. had both been assassinated. And Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia at Martin's Almermata, Morehouse College. The students had their own protest.

It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King's senior, and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A-building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the unpurposed podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations. You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas. And also, you know, your daughter is incredible. That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Thank you.

That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little. Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I'd not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of a million, how did that shape your sense of self? I went blank.

I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So everyone online has been posting about 2016 because they're saying 2026 is the new 2016. So what did your life look like 10 years ago? I can't post half of it.

I was a freshman in college. Like, what do you think I was doing? What were you doing? Tell us. Just drinking and partying, probably other things and just. Other things? What other things, Jonathan? I mean, it's 2026.

I was probably smoking weed. I haven't smoked weed since college, though. So I guess it's okay to say that. Where did you go to college? I went to community. Then I went to school in Tahoe. And then I went to Chapman in which county. All over the place.

So in 2016, were you at? Which one were you at? 2016, I was in Lake Tahoe. So all there was was to snowboard, smoke, drink. That's why I'm saying, like, I can't post stuff from that. So, John was living the dream. Yeah. That's what he says she's so.

I was, uh, I was doing all that. I was playing lacrosse in college. Oh, that's right. You play lacrosse. Yeah. And then after that, I got injured at a super bad hernia. And then I got fat. Not fat.

I got like, yeah, no, kind of. I just, I don't have pictures of it because I just didn't, I wasn't happy. I mean, I think everyone goes through that in college. The dining hall. Yeah. The jungle juice. It adds up a little. I was also just like, aggressively, like, depressed for like three months. So that wasn't. Jonathan. What? Was it after you, like, had your injury? No, it was, like, stuck up in, like, the mountains. Like, I just, like, I'm not, like, a tiny town kind of person where I can't leave. Because there was, like, 800.000.

people there and I was like I can't do this that's what I got like super into like drawing and like expressing myself I got I got into like making videos and stuff too which is why people like wonder like oh why did you get into social media I just like had to find ways to like put myself out to the world because I felt so small in the one I was in so you had all this on the top of a mountain this like prophetic dream of your life I also broke my entire face which people don't know okay so you're on top of a mountain from above is speaking to you and telling you that you have to be creative and you broke your face the same day yeah i broke my nose in two places and i fractured my skull in the plate in the front is still mess up and i had 19 stitches it's a disgusting picture and this happened on the way down the

mountain no this happened while i was up there but like it it didn't add to the to the experience of it all oh my gosh so yeah but anyways 2016 i was a good year for you no it was not a good year for you it was not a You know what? I'm going to be praying that this year is a lot better. I hope you don't break your face. I hope this isn't the new 2016. You know what? I don't either for you. Yeah. What about you? What was going on in your 2016? 2016, I was in college. I went to college in Ohio. Um, I was flying every day and just doing college things. I was in a sorority. So I think a lot of sorority staff. Oh, not like the things I was doing. You weren't like drinking or smoking or anything? I probably was, I probably had a fake ID. I actually definitely had a fake ID and I still remember her name. It was Elizabeth.

But it wasn't my picture. So that's not illegal, I think, right? Isn't it not illegal? I think it's only if you have your information and your face on a fake ID. Okay. Yeah. So I had a real ID that wasn't mine. It wasn't illegal.

Definitely still illegal. And I, yeah, I was in college. I don't feel like. anything was really huge going on in my life. I definitely think I was flying every day, so I'd like to bring that into this year. Because I still fly. I would love to see you fly.

Yeah, but I don't do it as much as like I would like to. So I think that is what I would bring from 2016. You want to take me out into Cessna? We'll just go fly around L.A. I would love that. I actually don't really like Cessna, though. I'm more of like a Piper type of girl, low wing. Okay.

So you don't put me in a stonel. stall. No, it's not a glider. That's a different type. Okay. But yeah, no, I'd love to. Cool. I think flying on the coast, like, that would be such a beautiful date. That would be a dream date. Okay. I've never taken a guy flying, though. That's like my big thing. Ever? No. Well, like, my friends. What's the guy got to do to earn that? What the hell? I just like, you know, everyone asks, and they're always like, are you going to take me flying? It's like a pickup line. Oh, okay. See, that's great. So I don't do it. Yeah. But I would like to.

Okay. All right, before we finish, yeah. I want us to both ask one hot take to each other, just to have it. I don't have a hot take, oh, you'll think of something. I really don't.

Hot take. Okay, you go first. I have to thank. You're good at this, though. I know, and I love putting you on the spot. It's like one of my favorite things to do. I'm sweating in here. Where's Charity and I'm Terry Watson?

Where are you when I need you? You just said that we should date, and I... I'm sweating in here, so it's getting really warm. I think we need to. It's been a fun episode. What's my one hot take for you? You're going to be hot take about me? Mm-hmm.

Oh, we're saying something we think about each other? Wow, I mean, we could do that. Like, my hot take about you? But mine's not going to be a hot take. It's just going to be a fucking compliment. Oh, really? Yeah, probably. Okay.

Well, then you go first. Let's see. Actually, not a hot take. Should we just a wholesome question? I have a wholesome question. No, no. What's your favorite thing that being? a part of this world has brought you?

My favorite thing about being in the bachelor world is definitely I mean it's so cheesy and everyone always says it but it's like friendships. I feel like I have so many friendships from this that are like the most genuine friends

that truly get me beyond anyone and I'm very lucky for that. Yeah, I love that. Right, what do you got from me? Okay. My question for you is what quality is what a person need to have if you went back to paradise for you to get down on one knee? They would have to be extremely self-aware.

Like when they come in, they're not falling for the glitz and the glam of the show. They're not falling for the glorious dates and the settings we're in where nothing's going on. They're a realistic person that like holds me accountable. but also, like, can see that I'm taking it serious, too. And not just from a show standpoint, but from a, hey, I want to find somebody. I hope that I can find somebody to date and do it in a capacity where I can share it with the world that wants to watch us do it. You know what I mean? Where it becomes something real.

So somebody that has that ability. Two, I think a lightheartedness. Somebody just comes in and just like, doesn't take things too serious. They're not worried about people judging them. They're not worried about the just, I don't. I don't know. There's a lot of noise in this world and somebody that just can look past it. And then somebody's just like a best friend. I want somebody I can laugh with. I want somebody I can just have fun with and enjoy our time together.

Well, I love that. So all the self-aware girls, Jonathan will be on the beach for Bachelor in Paradise Season 11. Would you consider yourself self-wear? Am I self-wear? Maybe. Okay. I was curious. I would like to think so, but I think a lot of people would tell me otherwise. Okay. I'm sweating. I need to get some air. It is really hot in this room. Jonathan, thank you so much for stopping by. This has been a super exciting and insightful episode. My favorite one so far. So thank you for being here.

Of course. Thank you having me. Yeah, you're welcome. And what? You're going to say so much? No. Also in comment if you want Rachel and I to go on a date. And make sure you guys tune in, subscribe, and make sure you listen. We have a lot more interview. who's coming your way. So we'll see you then. You can scroll the headlines all day and still feel empty. I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me, is where culture meets the soul. Honest conversations about identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith, and everything in between. Celebrities, thinkers, everyday people, some have answers.

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status quo. The Crown Act in New York was signed in July of 2019, and that is a bill that was passed to prohibit discrimination based on hairstyles associated with race. To hear this and more, listen to Selective Ignorcerative. with Mandy B from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop.

What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone.

America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move. These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the Board of Trustees, including Martin Luther King, Sr. It's the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Inelic Lamouba. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the unpurposed podcast.

On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. I went blank. I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.