Bachelor Happy Hour - Juliana on the breakup and future plans for Paradise

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” Juliana joins Joe and Serena to catch us up and spill all the tea! After a long healing journey, she’s ready to look back on her relationship with Grant — so what really happened leading up to their breakup? Juliana opens up about how things fell apart, the aftermath, and where the two stand today. She also fills us in on her dating life; what’s it like to date after being on reality TV? And could “Paradise” be in her future? Plus, we dive into Carolina’s recent podcast episode, Juliana and Litia’s dynamic before and after the finale, and the final words Juliana has been holding onto. Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, everyone, welcome back to Vets Your Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with Juliana. Juliana, welcome back to Vats Your Happy Hour. Thanks for having you guys. No problem. Where are you today? I'm in Newton, Massachusetts. I'm at my parents' house today.

Nice. Last time we had you on this podcast was post-finally. I think we did like a little catch-up with you and Grant. You guys were about to go on a trip with your family. Jesus, Serena, don't rub it in. Well, that's last time we saw her. That's just a fact. Yeah. You know, a lot's happened since then. We're going to get into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But how are you doing now? What's nice? catch us up i'm doing good um everything's been going really great lately in life which i'm

really lucky for um just crushing it in my nine to five and me and my sister launched our nice girls label back in june um that's been so fun and so amazing um and yeah just getting ready for the holiday season it is Q4 is kicking my ass what what has dating life been like for you are you dating uh so i have i have been dating um it's been really fun but um recently i actually went on like what they call a stoop date and okay i saw this i think yeah so i just moved to southy in september and they have um her name's jules and she does stoop dating so she'll like people will apply and then she'll like match make you before you know like who you're going to be dating it's like a

blind date but on a stoop and selfie like on her front steps um and that went really well it was fun it was cute uh we went on a couple dates afterwards but unfortunately he told me like he couldn't handle the people coming up to him asking him questions sending him dms about me so i was like totally understand no hard feelings um gosh that's so interesting i i i've weirdly enough i've never dated outside. Sorry, I'm just like, my brain's just glisting because I'm just realizing that since I went on the show, I never dated anyone not on the show because I got engaged on the show. So I've never experienced what it's like to date after being on reality television. And the fact that people reach out to this person that you've been on a few dates with is wild to me. Yeah.

I mean, you know, it's still like, I think brand new for people to see me dating. And it was a public. you know like dating podcast per se um so i think people were invested and and kind of wanted to do their own research um i think i've learned and i will be keeping my next relationship a little bit more on the down low yeah i think if you like if you if you start dating someone and then like six months down the road like you post like a photo of like our six month engagement like i don't think that would have the same reaction opposed to like meeting somebody on like a virtual right I guess that kind of opens the door because you're sharing like oh I'm meeting this person and we might date and then it kind of opens the door for people to feel comfortable commenting on it yeah totally it's fair you know I assume when they started casting for this past season of Paradise you were pretty like newly single so I'm assuming that's probably why you didn't do it but if they were to ask you to do the upcoming season would you yeah i think i'm far enough away from like kind of the emotions of everything that i went through

um it was like challenging to even comprehend the thought of like going on another dating reality show but you know i learned a lot and i'm sitting here a better person than i was before i went on so i would i would be interested yeah maybe we'll see okay so so let's say you agree you're packing your bags yeah what is your plan what do you if you've you've seen paradise before I'm assuming did you watch this last season I watched a little a little bit of it yeah okay so what's what's going through you what do you what's the plan um I think it's just to go in with like a super open mind you know when you go on the bachelor it's like you know who you're going for so you're kind of laser focused I think on like getting to know them and

and making sure they know you, but I think I would hold my cards a little bit closer to my chest and just try and get to know everybody, whether it's on like a friendly level or something romantic that I could see. I have no idea how I would do with like those like physical challenges, to be honest, that would probably send me over the edge. But if Gia Judice can be the queen of whatever show she was just on where they really like tore her down like I feel like I could do choose on special forces right yes I was like wait what and then yeah I that we didn't watch that season we've only seen a few episodes of that show but that show is intense and you do have people that don't come out of like sports backgrounds or Olympians or whatever that like do go on and

they just crush it right I know and I thought to myself like you know seeing that them on Bachelor in Paradise, I was like, damn, it gave me kind of like PTSD from the basketball date. Like, I am not like a physical activity type of gal, but like if you put me in those positions, I guess like just something in me takes over. So I feel like there's a slight chance I could have like, you know, a chance at crushing it. I don't know. Yeah. I'm curious to see if the formatting changes or stays the same or what ends up happening next season. Does that I think it changes, FYI. I think it changes too.

Does that kind of play into your decision at all of like, ooh, I could be walking into something that I don't actually know what it is because they did kind of blindside them this season with like the competition element, the money, the new format, all the things. Yeah, I think, I mean, regardless, I would be putting myself in a like a new position and really just trying to like go into it with like I said an open mind for whatever comes my way. I don't know that if they, you know, announced they were changing the format, if that would sway me one way or the other. I think I would just have to be in a mindset where I want to meet somebody from within Bachelor Nation on a beach and just kind of have fun with it.

Would you be okay with your ex being there? That's how you guys met, right? We met on Paradise. That was that situation, but yeah, that wasn't like you don't know going into it. So like going in the paradise, you don't know. And then all of a sudden, you know, Grant comes walking down. Is that? Yeah.

Could you handle that? I like to think yes. But I, you know, I don't know what emotions kind of would come flooding out of me if that was the case. If that like came to reality, I'm sure my heart would like sink, you know, a little bit. and I know it would be a bit uncomfortable to see him talking and kind of forming those relationships, but then I would also be, like, kind of self-conscious about him seeing me do that without trying to upset him. So it would be really hard to navigate, to be quite honest. I would probably pack up my stuff and go the minute his, like, feet touch the sand. But

that would just be for my piece of mind, no bad blood, nothing of like that nature. Yeah. You're good friends with Ali Joe, right? yeah she didn't find love on the show but it seems like her and sam m are they still together oh i was going to ask are they still together yeah they're doing great you know they're managing the long distance um really well i just i see her glowing and she seems really really happy um so i think sam for giving my girl a little love that she deserves i was bummed that they didn't cross past because they definitely were both going into the show interested in one another. I mean, they both had said it before filming on this podcast, I think.

So we were kind of waiting to see them cross past because I don't think it was any secret that they were both interested in each other. And obviously he was gone before she made her way. So I was happy to see them connect after. Yeah, me too. Everything works out the way it's supposed to. So if they didn't meet on the beach, they were definitely sure it's all going to make sure they met outside the beach.

Yeah. after the way everything played out for you um a do you are you in grant on good terms do you guys talk or no just like whatever no we don't talk um we have talked since the breakup which is i think why i got a little defensive when he said we didn't um just because i didn't understand the logic behind that um but you know we we don't we don't talk i wish him well to be honest On the latest episode of next question with me, Katie Couric, my guest Senator John Federman of Pennsylvania opens up about his 22 stroke, his battle with depression, and his remarkable recovery.

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you tell yourself what would you warn yourself like knowing what I know now yeah ask more questions um i think in the heat of the moment you feel like a lot of this is getting somebody to get to know you i don't think there's a too much focus on making sure they know they know who you are so you know asking questions just about his goals his life dreams um where he sees himself, you know, after all of this. And to be quite frank, I don't think that even had I asked those questions that I would have gotten, like, not to say truthful answers, because that's like, I don't mean to say he's like lied or any of that. I just mean, I don't think he knew the answer to those questions. So I don't know what answers he would have given me. But I definitely

would have just tried to like poke the bear a little bit more and and try to make sure he knew my hopes and dreams that's yeah that's that's that's really important and i think you make a good point because i don't think a lot of people do that and i didn't even really think about that till we we interviewed peg and mel and that was one of mel's things about peg was like she asked me questions a lot of questions about my family and about myself yeah and i think think yeah because when you're when you're a contestant you're also like trying to stand out amongst 30 other people and it does become this game of like I need to let the lead know who I am yeah and then everyone gets so long and then everyone's like I don't even know this fucking guy literally

it's what happens so I think that's I think that's really common and I think that's something that like people should start doing more yeah it's so hard it's so hard it's so hard hard to like figure out the best way to make the most of your limited time on the show um for sure and i mean you know there were things like afterwards like after filming after the finale i just like the way i try to look at it is exactly that is like what what could i have done better for myself and there's a lot of things you know like hindsight's the best site but i think i um you know i let myself down in a lot of ways throughout the whole process and that to me was like I think what hurt I think the most honestly at what point after the finale were you kind of like maybe this isn't

going as well as I had hoped it would go like was it kind of a slow decline or was it like what was that what did the breakup process kind of look like um honestly um You know, like I know Grant and I have tried like our very best to kind of keep a lot of things under wraps just because I know that he cares about me and I do care about him and I don't want him to have any negative backlash by any means. But I think there's a little bit of clarity due here where I will say I woke up from the morning after, wasn't the finale the morning after the finale. It was the next morning after we had sat through all of this press. I woke up and there was some words exchanged between the two of us that made me just feel completely alone and isolated and like I didn't even know why I had tried to stick around for as long as I did. And it was like heartbreaking for me. Like that flight home from L.A. was like my sister

luckily was with me. She stayed with me to do my glam for all the interviews. But I couldn't have done it. If she wasn't by my side, I was like depleted as a as a human. Yeah. Do you want to share what those words are or no? You don't have to. No, no. I mean, I think the thing I would like to share is that, you know, I had expressed some severe hurt, you know, and I felt like I was kind of carrying a lot of the emotions between both parties throughout the entire like watching it back because I had a support system, right? And I knew I could lean on my people. I was good. I could put my stuff on the back burner till I needed to deal with it. So like his mental headspace was like my top concern because I cared about him and I wanted to make sure he was okay. And he was

getting a lot of backlash. And ultimately, you know, I had watched things back because I couldn't hear things like live in it live time. I guess that what you want to call it. But like I had watched things back um and i had knew of basically everything nothing latia said had like struck a nerve i think it was just the matter of um how it was handled from his end and trying to get him to take some accountability in that um and i was really upset and i probably spoke out of anger and said some really hurtful things that night before and then when we woke up um the first thing he said to me was like he had game planned like different ways we could announce our breakup um and And I hadn't even made that decision on my end.

And I was supposed to be leaving to go to L.A. I mean, to come home from L.A. And I was like, that's how we're going to start this day and have this conversation. And after everything I felt like I did for us and putting myself on the back burner, like, it's back to the optics. It's back to what people are going to think. And like, not about us and our relationship. It's what the outside world thinks. And I just, I couldn't handle that anymore.

Yeah, the audience, I think it's hard. The audience sometimes becomes a third person in your relationship. Yeah. Yeah. Rough. That's very tough. As we laugh. No, it is.

It is. It is. We're all right. And, okay, so we do, I think Carolina did, recently did a podcast, Ben and Ashley's podcast. Yeah, almost famous. Almost famous. Have you heard any clips from the podcast or anything about what was said by her? No, I just, I saw the teaser pop up on my Instagram where she said she's going to be very honest about her thoughts on me.

But, you know, in the nicest way possible, I simply do not care. I don't have the time or energy to listen to what she thinks of me or how she felt I was or how, you know, how she views me. I think that, you know, when she started to utilize my breakup as a way for her to get some, like, clout online or to kind of come back into the limelight and speak her truth on our relationship, and then go ahead and text me to let me know that she was strategically doing things online, but privately wishing me well. again I say this in the nicest possible way but in the wise words of Taylor Frankie Paul that's a snake in the grass and I'm not a gardener so she can live there all she wants but I'm not going to take her out do you watch do you watch the secret lives of Mormon wives I don't really obsessed with it yeah it's on my list of things like to watch especially with Taylor being the new bachelorette I like want to know her I think

she's so cool and unique, like for all the reasons. And so I'm excited. Yeah, I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be a really good season. Yeah. What was I going to ask? Who are you friends with from your seasons? Is there anyone that you actually still talk to now? Oh, yeah. I talk to Allie Joe, of course. I see her quite a lot when I go to Florida. I talked to Parisa and Beverly. You know, there's a few girls that we just kind of, like, show love online. Don't, like, really text all that much. But, you know, I have love for all the girls on this season. And I'm silently all of their fans.

On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, my guest, Senator John Federman of Pennsylvania, opens up about his 22 stroke, his battle with depression, and his remarkable recovery. Stay in the game and keep it as simple as you can because the lie of depression is that the best solution is to take yourself out. And that is the awful choice you can't ever come back from. But since there's no such thing as a slow news day, we also talked about the end of the government shutdown, a resolution he helped facilitate and one that has elicited a lot of anger from his constituents. To put 42 million Americans at food insecurity and not pay our military, that is absolutely the wrong approach to fight for health insurance. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

May 24, 1990, a pipe bomb explodes in the front seat of environmental activist Judy Berry's car. I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it ripped through me with just a force more powerful and terrible than anything that I could describe. In season two of Rip Current, we asked, who tried to kill Judy Berry and why? She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing. The man and woman who were heard had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California. They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging.

logging equipment in the woods. The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area, but more than it was the culture. It was the way of life. I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Kelly, and some of you may know me as Laura Winslow.

And I'm Telma, also known as Aunt Rachel. If those names ring a bell, then you probably are familiar with the show that we were both on back in the 90s called Family Matters. Kelly and I have done a lot of things and played a lot of roles over the years, but both of us are just so proud to have been part of Family Matters. Did you know that we were one of the longest running sitcoms with the black cast? When we were making the show, there were so many moments filled the joy and laughter and cut up that I will never forget. Oh, girl, you got that right. The look that you all give me is so black. All black people know about the look.

On each episode of Welcome to the Family, we'll share personal reflections about making the show. Yeah, we'll even bring in part of the cast and some other special guests to join in the fun and spill some tea. Listen to Welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others.

I'm Mike De La Rocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now? Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically,

the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as peoples just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my guess.

I don't want to go through all that. You've got to go through the wounds you're laughing. Listening to other people's near-death experiences, and it's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer. Listen to Sacred Lessons as part of the My Goutura Podcast Network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

If one of us wins, we all win, I'm Ashley Reifeld, and I'm the host of the women's skateboarding podcast. Good luck with that. Good luck with that is a skateboarding podcast that is part cultural record, part news brief, mostly group therapy, and a place to talk about the past, present, and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding. This week, me and my co-host, Nora Vasconcellos and Alex White, we have Fabiana delfino on the show, a professional skateboarder from Florida, whose grit was forged in a family of athletes. Tune in to hear how she broke into the boys club, what it takes to be pro,

and why just being grateful you're here shouldn't be the price of entry. Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago because that's when they maybe started paying attention. It's a no-fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts, and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up. You break down the door, sick now, like, hold the door for everyone.

We created good luck with that because we want to share our experience of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to good luck with that on iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you and Latia good? Was there ever, like, beef with you guys? Or like a conversation had between you guys?

No. I feel like I'm just like spilling all the tea here today. But, you know, I think it's not something I want to like talk too much about because it's something I've like kind of healed and moved on from, to be honest. But me and Latia's relationship was pretty complicated. from like the first ever FaceTime we had. It was me, her, and Seraphina, and I had spoken to, like, the other girls, and, you know, no one had, like, really confirmed or knew how it ended, and everyone was treading so lightly

and cautiously with me, and I appreciate them all so much for that. And her and I and Seraphina were doing the same thing, just kind of, like, catching up. And then she sprung it on me towards the end of the call that, you know, her producer had told her how everything ended. And I was totally caught off guard and I was like, oh shit, like I haven't told any of the girls. I hadn't even told Allie Joe. I was just like so anxious. And I walked her kind of through like everything that happened in the best way that was like kind of the most polite I felt. It's so uncomfortable and sad, but I knew she kind of wanted to know and I wanted to give her maybe some closure with that. And I expressed that, you know, I was really, really, really anxious for

the other girls to find out I didn't want it to deter, you know, our friendships. And she promised me, you know, she wouldn't tell anybody. And she did. And she told multiple girls and they called me and said, let's see, I told me the news, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, they were all so gracious about it. And it's not about the fact that I didn't want them to know. It was just I was in such a fragile kind of time frame right then. And I was trying to find the words and also understand everything I had just been through. And so I think from there, I told my sister, and I called one of the producers who she was like, there's no way, you know, her producer would have said that.

And like, that's a he said, she said that I don't ever think I'll care to know the true truth of it all. But, you know, it rubbed me the wrong way. And it made me upset. And it made me a little bit weary of the friendship. and I try my best to, like, put myself in her shoes. And I don't know that I would have done that, but I could understand, like, the emotions driving those behaviors.

So I gave her grace with that. And we continued to kind of just have a, you know, friendship at arm's distance. And towards the end of things, I was texting her, you know, saying, you did, you did great. Like, this can't be easy. You know, I wish you well. And I texted her before the live show being like, you know, at least we get to like serve on stage together one last time.

Like I know it's going to be really hard and she didn't answer and I think that's when I started to kind of sense I was unsure of the magnitude of her feelings about it all. And I wasn't going to intrude myself in her healing process or prevent her or make her feel like she couldn't speak her truth because we had a relationship. So I thought it was best to kind of like withdraw myself and that's what I did. yeah damn um what show were you on this this this this is a test where you did you ever think when you like signed up for this and when you got ready to go on did you ever think like this would be your experience because it is pretty i mean you're it's it sounds pretty heavy like

as we're asking you all these questions i'm kind of like damn yeah this this kind of sucked Yeah. Honestly, you know, it felt like it did in the moment. And like, I'm not lying when I, like, was a shell of a human for a little bit after the finale. And even throughout watching it all back, I totally disassociated and just was like, I just got to get through it. I just got to get through it. And then I can figure my shit out, you know? But it was, it can end in all sort of ways, right? Like sometimes they don't get engaged either. Sometimes. you know, it's, it's you. Sometimes it's not. Sometimes you get sent home night one. So I kind of just went in being like, I really hope this is all awesome. It was when we came back from filming when things started to get all weird and like uncomfortable. And I was like, what? Like can I like opt out? Like can we just like end the season early? Like I'm good. Like don't show me on TV anymore. Like I appreciated all the like love and support that I got because that was like insane. overwhelming in the best way possible. But it doesn't really mean as much when you're

internally fighting like some hard battles. And I felt like it was just one thing after the other. Yeah. Yeah, you got hit with a lot. What did your healing journey look like? Just surrounding myself with my people again. I think a really cool thing about why I wanted to come back to Boston after all of this was because, you know, Newton in particular is a place that shaped me as a person, as a daughter, as a friend, and all these things. And I think Boston is a little underrated in a lot of like categories from fashion to entrepreneurship, businesses. And, you know, I think the healing part of me was the ability to give back. to my community. You know, small side story is my dad started at a Honda Village in Newton Corner

as a valet like over 40 years ago and he worked his way up to he's now the general manager there and his favorite thing is like giving back and he's making a change in like the lives of people he sees on a daily basis. And I think that that was my goal and he is my role model. So I just really locked in on like, okay, now I have, you know, over 100,000 people that care about me. What can I do? And it was, I can give back to the people that helped me get here. And that was just, I think, what I, like, dove into. And luckily, my sister and I had, you know, the brand and the platform of Nice Girls label to show up to all these really amazing fundraisers and gala's and sure, like the notoriety from the bachelors, maybe what they wanted me.

therefore invited me from and i'm so thankful for that but when i was there it wasn't bachelor juliana it was trying to spread the message of like kindness inclusivity and just like loving yourself through the mission of nice girls label and i think that that has helped heal me 10fold because it's making me focus on really positive and healthy things would you consider so i mean that all make sense and I think like going back and like being in Boston where you're from and around your friends and family is like really important because this is okay like this is this is this is real life like everything else was just kind of like this experiment that I did that didn't really pan out but let's say you were hypothetically you were to go on paradise and you do meet

someone and he lives in Wyoming are you are you maybe we go like Chicago New York Okay, Chicago. He lives in Chicago. Like, are you willing to potentially move for someone else? Or is it like, I want you to come to Boston? No, I think that I'm open. I think that, you know, Boston will always be my home. But like home in the sense of where I feel like most at ease. And I think that if somebody is willing to, include me in their life in their home like of course I would give them the opportunity to show me that it just would have to be it would have to make sense I you know I also had a nine to five and I have a nine to five that keeps me kind of locked in at Boston and I'm and so like a lot of things would have to change but it's not to say that I'm so dead set like never leaving like shoot I want to move to Florida you know I'm trying to figure that out like but I'm open

Nice I was going to say Before we get close to Rappen up here Is there anything else In terms of like The perception of you Your relationship

Rumors you've seen online Comments people have made That you want to Clear up or address While we have you here Yeah there's only one thing And it's kind of shitty But I think that

Taking away the breakup and the public kind of going through being in the public eye, the ups and downs of that. I think that the one thing that really hurt my feelings the most and was disheartening was when Lettia went on a podcast and insinuated things about my sex life. And then Zoe chimed in in the comments online to basically confirm that Latia was talking about me to make sure people knew that. I only say that because I think it was such a dagger and it added fuel to this fire of she was the easy choice. You know, he just chose lust over love. And I think it was so embarrassing for me to deal with that. And I was embarrassed for my family. I was embarrassed for my employer.

I was mortified that, you know, people that didn't know me would think that I, you know, slept with this man just to get a ring on my finger or to win a reality show. I think that truly if I was her, I would be embarrassed for saying that because I think as women, we do have to stick together. And of course, there's going to be little tidbits here and there and things we do. don't agree on and hate spread whether we like it or not. But to bring another sex, another woman's sex life into a public eye conversation when she didn't hear it from the source and heard it through the grapevine and doubled down on it in the last podcast she did

that I probably should have listened to. But I had my sister do the recon on that is, it's disheartening. And it's, I don't, I'm not calling her ugly, but it's ugly behavior. And That's not the case and that wasn't the case. And I would just love to put that to bed so that she can stop talking about it and I can stop getting DMs calling me some uncomfortable names because somebody's out there saying that I'm sleeping around to get a ring. Well, now that we're on the topic of lust, yeah, sure.

Are there any guys in Bachelor Nation that you would be interested in in potentially dating? Yes. Who? Oh, okay. Let's, let's, will you give us a name? No, I can't give you all my tea. You can't give us all, but you can give us, how about this? Okay, what?

Give us initials. Or a, the season that they were from. Oh, I'm bad with the seasons. I can't do that. I don't, I don't know it like that. Okay. But, uh, you could give, how about this? Just, I'll go as easy as a last name initial.

What? That's not going to do anything for anyone. And if I guess it, and if I guess it, you got to tell me I'm right. How about that? This is a crazy game. She's going to give you one letter of the alphabet. You're going to guess out of the hundreds of men from this franchise, which one she's interested in. Yeah, let's go.

Okay. M. M. Oh, M's a tough one. They're all tough. What am easy. Like Z. maybe um i don't know yeah i don't know but that uh joe uh thank you so much for coming on we

really appreciate it and um yeah this was fun thank you yeah thank you so much i was so surprised when you guys said you wanted me on because it feels like we're such old news now you know never old news never old news everyone's still chatting about it so we had to we had to bring you on and Thank you so much for being open and vulnerable. And we're wishing you all the best in your healing journey. We hope to see you in paradise, maybe in the future. Maybe me. Thank you guys so much.

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