Bachelor Happy Hour - Juliana Says to Be Nice!

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Juliana from Grant’s season! We kick off the episode getting right into Juliana’s journey to the show. Then, we get THE inside scoop on all the drama we’ve seen on the show so far. What was her POV on Rose and Carolina’s drama? How did the Zoe drama dissipate so fast? And, of course, what’s the tea behind her drama with Carolina? Then, we get into her flourishing connection with Grant, including some surprising details as to why her one-on-one came so late in the season. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. Yeah. I grew up in Newton. I actually grew up in the same house that my mom grew up in. So. Oh, that's so nice. Wow, that's going to be a hard day if you guys ever have to sell that house. I know. I know they just got a house in Florida. So I'm like, can you just keep this house for a few more years until I can buy it? Yeah. Oh, keep it in the family.

I was actually just at my parents' place this past weekend. And I was thinking, like, damn, I'm going to be really sad if they ever sell this house. Or the couch in the basement. So many memories. Or the couch in the basement. Yeah, the couch in the basement is so comfortable. Yeah. We have this, like, traveling couch that my grandmother has.

had in her house and we can't get rid of it. It's like a purple couch and purple was her favorite color. So it's just like rotating from like storage unit to like house, if you don't have the heart to like do anything with it. Someone's got to design like a whole room just around this purple couch. Totally. Yeah. So you're from a big Italian family?

I sure. What's your favorite, what's your favorite Italian food? Your favorite dish? Um, well, I go between Coucher Pepe and I love a good chicken harm. So just depends on how hungry I am. Do you speak any Italian or does anyone in your family? Um, you know, not really, to be honest. I have a couple, we have a couple people that do, because we go to, um, this small town in Italy every few years. Um, and so we just are all ducklings behind the few that can actually understand and speak. But I've been on duolingo and I got a pretty good

street going. Oh, get it. We were, yeah, when with Serena and I were in Italy for a honeymoon, I was speak in Italian. No, Joe would tell, Joe is Italian. He doesn't speak a lick of Italian. No one in his family does. And we were in Italy and they would be like, oh, he'd be like, oh, Amabli, like, you're Italian. Do you speak any Italian? And he would say a little bit, like, in French, you were like, petite, and I'm like, first of all, that's not Italian. Second, well, you don't speak a little Italian. They're going to start talking. You're not going to know what they're saying. I just hit him again. You can't fake it to them. No, they know. They'd be like, okay, so you're lying. So, Julianne, how did you get on The Bachelor?

So a couple of years ago, my sister and I started to do, you know, Monday, wine night. And we were just watching a few seasons. And somewhere along the way, she signed me up and never told me. So I got a call this past, like, April. And, you know, it took me off guard. And they asked if I'd ever been interested. And my sister signed me up. been i just i was kind of like 50 50 at first and i just thought there was you know no harm and

going through the process and ultimately it panned out and then i was on what was dating life like for you before going on uh very minimal um not too much happening in the relationship standpoint i i'm i don't really love first dates and i don't love second date so i was kind of just doing my thing but i was on the dating apps and swiping for fun it's like online shopping this is a good show for you then like if you're like i don't like that like initial like texting got to get to know them like this really is a good process for you yeah i was speed dating you know do you have any any guys in your past that you think like watch the show or like what the fuck she's what's what she doing on here uh it's funny because i'm friends

on social media with some of them like Instagram. And so I've got a couple DMs but mostly they're on my side. You know, they're rooting for me and all good. Everything ended well. You know, I never ghosted anybody. I just I just was like, you know, this isn't for me.

You've never ghosted anyone ever? Oh, I probably ghosted somebody at some point. That's what I thought. Yeah, for sure. I just, yeah. Some people I probably was like walked out of that first. state was like block number delete yeah done with you yeah all right let's get into the show

how did you decide on your night one dress your night one introduction with grant all the things yeah um so my sister helped me with all of my dresses like all of my outfits she we did sticky notes and she basically packed my suitcase for me. So I felt really good in that department. And I went in with an idea, but me, ultimately my producer and I kind of worked to tie in a couple of like aspects of myself. Like I'm known for loving a good sweet treat and I'm Italian. And so we just tried to combine the two and we came up with a canoli and wanted to give

him a little taste of me right from the jump. Yeah, super cute. And then what was your first impression? of grant was he kind of what you expected yeah i i i for sure like blacked out the minute i got out of the uber i mean the uber the limpel over black yeah uber crazy if you pulled up to that to the house at an uber i probably should have um but yeah no he was uh looks wise you know everything that i was excited for and then even more he was like taller than i realized He was more handsome in person than, you know, I think I anticipated, which took my breath away a little bit.

But I think one of the coolest things was like when I was talking to him, I could just tell he was really like listening to me. It's in like your body language and your eye contact and things like that. And so that I was like, okay, I was a little reassured that I thought he was like, I had an inkling that he was a good guy. Were you at all worried that first night that you could potentially go home? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. But it's not until I think the rose ceremony that you really kind of get that rush of emotions because there's so much happening. And you're also getting to know girls and trying to think about, you know, your conversation with him. And when you're standing in the rose ceremony that first night, it's it's so many emotions that you grapple with of like, you know, your ego and your heart and the desire to, you know, want more opportunities to kind of get to know him. And for him to get to know you. And you're like, oh, my God, if I go home, I think I'll feel, like, embarrassed and sad are the first things that I think I would feel. Yeah, that's pretty embarrassing.

No shame to the night one for homers, but, you know. Joe went home night one. We don't have to say it every other thing. Well, it's good context when you're like, yeah, it is embarrassing. Like, you're speaking from experience. You're just shitting on the night one people. Yeah, well, if any of the night one, people will come from you, then they'll figure out that I went home night one. know yeah yeah yeah but you know what everything happens for a reason everything happens for a reason

that's true how is your first conversation that first night with grant uh it was good it was good um you know i was i was having the worst time of my life trying to play the piano i will admit that um you know because i don't really know how to play i just taught myself moonlight sonata oh my gosh it's like how i speak italian it's like it's like what it's like how i speak italian yeah all of a sudden, I was trying to win a man over with my lack of skills. And, um, but he, he made a joke of it. It was good. It kind of was the initial feeling of like, oh, wow, we can be kind of goofy together.

So I walked away feeling really good. That's so funny because I played chess on night one. That was like my activity. And I had said like, yeah, no, like I've played chess before. We got like a big chess part. I was super excited. I was like, I don't play chess. Okay.

So like, I guess I had like more confidence in myself than I should have. Because, like, when the time came, I was like, I don't think I've played chess in, like, 15 years. But I was like, you know what? It's okay. Like, he's not here looking for a chess player. And I don't think grants are looking for a pianist. So it's okay. Yeah.

I'm like, that's, I'm going to take that off my resume moving forward. I'm not going to tell anybody that. What girls did you click with from the beginning and did any of those girls stick around to being one of your closest friends in the house? It's kind of a weird way to phrase that. Yeah, it's okay. You know, you get what I'm saying. You know, night one, me and Allie Joe just clicked immediately. And she was definitely my safety net, you know, until she went home.

But I'd like to think that me and a lot of the girls ended up having really good relationships. And I hope, you know, we can maintain them after the show. I did get really close with Vicki and Parista. and as you get deeper and deeper into the process and there's fewer and fewer of you, you kind of start to lean on people that maybe you didn't initially, you know, be attracted to.

And, you know, I got really close with Serafina and Latia. And I think that they'll, I hope that they'll be lifelong friends. Nice. Yeah, I feel like it's such a special bond, especially when you first come off the show and it's airing. You know, being able to connect with these people, even if it's only for a season of life. But you do have this like really intense shared experience. Yeah.

Yeah. And especially in the aftermath of it, having people that, you know, just also can understand what you went through. Because I can talk to my friends and my family about this all day. And, you know, they can give me the usual advice that does help. But it's also they don't really understand where I'm coming from. Yeah. 100%. It's different for sure.

did you watch the show before you went on it for a couple seasons yeah yeah i don't remember when i started but um i to be completely honest i was just going to my sister's house on monday night to drink some wine and you know and then it just kind of turned into this well we have something to watch and i got into it any any any season that's you would say has been your favorite um I would say, I mean, just because it's kind of all I really remember, like, Joey season was really good. I thought all the girls on that were really fun. Jen's season was a little harder to watch, I feel like, because it was a pretty accurate representation of, like, the current dating world with, like, the men that were on it. And, yeah. And so as a viewer, you know, watching her kind of try and maneuver that in the sense.

that she was in when we're trying to do that on the outside world too it's like you can't help but just root for her and want her to succeed all right let's fly through a little bit of the drama this season and get some of your thoughts and then we'll dive deeper into your one-on-one this week wait wait wait real quick before we do yeah go off um what's it been like watching yourself back has that been weird or you've been is that something you're comfortable with it's weird for sure it's it's cringy you know you're your own worst critics so i i've been having like a hard time but at the same time just trying to take everything with a grain of salt and laugh because i have a mindset that you know life is just too serious to take seriously so if i can make a joke out of

something it it almost stings less when someone else tries to make a joke out of it too because we can laugh together and um it's also been a really good opportunity to see things about myself that I like and see things about myself that maybe I want to change. And that's between like me and my conscience, you know? So it's weird. It's definitely like kind of like something I wish I could run away from. But at the same time, it's, it's helpful if you allow it to be. How's your family watching you kiss a boy?

We do see. Yeah, we do see. You can't spoil it. I don't know if your dad's serious or not. But we do see in the teaser, her dad's like, she just, just. Did you just kiss my daughter? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know, he, it's hard for them.

Not hard, but it's different for them for all the reasons of seeing it on TV. But also, I haven't brought, like, I've never brought a guy home that's only happened once in my life. And so they've never really seen me interact with, like, men that I'm romantically involved. with and so I'm the baby of my family my my parents are like what the hell is happening even though I'm 28 they're like she's still like a baby to to them and so watching me kiss other people like it's cringy for me I can't imagine how God awful it is for them I just made them beg beg I begged them to like promise me that if it looked like that was going to happen close your eyes just please yeah look away look away yep yep never happened don't know

you're talking about that's so funny has anything since watching it back happened on the show that you were really surprised by or you're like whoa i didn't know that happened or like i can't believe this person was saying that uh i feel like because it's a smaller cast the season that doesn't happen as much yeah it really didn't i mean we had such a from my perspective really awesome group of girls that was you know we were able to kind of keep our cards close to our chest but also like support each other and listen and you know i i don't think anyone really had any sort of like malicious intent with anything and the drama was from my eyes very minimal um so yeah nothing really surprised me the llama was like probably one of the most surprising

things night one because i just i don't know what i thought when he told me there was going to be a llama inside but i did not think there was going to be a real llama like greeting i forgot you were the when he said that too that was so funny yeah he was like said that and i was like okay cool like catch you later and then you're like what did he just say to me yeah you're like what a weird joke and i was like wait what so funny uh jumping to some of the conflicts in drama in the house i would say let's maybe start with the zohy stuff because that that seemed to end in a in a positive light it seems like that kind of went away you were on both the you were on the basketball group day and the finance group date right okay so in your eyes were you surprised on that first group date

when Zoe pulled him were you like whoa like here we go like it's all happening uh I don't know if surprise is the word because I feel like that's a common theme in this season like someone's going to do it. But I will say is that like the amount of time that it took away from us is something I wasn't really anticipating. So I know that that's kind of what ruffled a lot of feathers. And then just like the way she came back in to like greet us afterwards was it wasn't the best from my perspective. So I think that also was like just even like digging digging the whole deeper. and adding fuel to the fire that she started, but, you know, it's fine. Like, not everybody is going to go in there with the same game plan.

But I think it's just for me, it's a matter of, like, respecting people. And I think when she came back is when I was like, oh, wow, like, she had, you know, no thought of us and what, you know, what her actions could maybe, like, prevent us from doing, which is, you know, all trying to be there to get to know him. Yeah. So usually when that shit happens, it like lingers throughout the season. But it does seem like it kind of just like went away. After episode two.

Yeah. Like after a little bit, it went away. Could you give us some insight into is that how it felt like she came in hot and then it dissipated a little bit or what was kind of the dynamic? Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of like that happened, right? The basketball date happened. And I think that tensions were high for a lot of reasons that day. And so we tried to sort it out that night. And we didn't really get to a conclusion. And we all just needed to go to sleep, regroup, figure out what's going to happen next. The finance date, I think, is what kind of, made things more confusing because in between that period, we had kind of sorted through things. And, you know, obviously you guys don't get to see everything, but there's so many conversations

that happened. And nobody ever wanted anybody to feel, you know, isolated by choice. And so when she, when Grant came back in and did, you know, his like mic drop drop moment about us like belittling people i mean i just kind of looked around and we were going like one by one saying you know what was your conversation about what was your conversation about and it was so late i was so tired i was like let's skip to the point oh yeah you were the one you called you personally called out zoie what was your conversation about okay that yeah yeah yeah and honestly good for you because like we were even watching it being like we don't need to do this dance like everyone's sitting there knowing that like this case or

or it most likely came from Zoe, you know? Like, we could start there and then work our way backwards. Yep. Thank you for speeding up our TV watching. Yeah. And, you know, we had been all talking like just about how fun the date was and how, you know, it was so light and especially coming from the basketball date where we were like, you know, humbling each other.

We're like, this was nice, you know. And then she opened up and talked about, you know, her emotion. and they were so valid, but I think to kind of hear that from her and try and support her than to hearing like all of a sudden we were belittling, it was like, we were just trying to figure out what it was so we could, you know, stand better with her and support her because we didn't understand what, what, like, that was stemming from, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And then, and then it just kind of like after that, you know, you see us all sobbing and crying and I think we were all just trying to figure out like if we were ever going to be able to find like common ground or if this was going to be, you know, maybe more of like a victimizing situation where we couldn't win no matter what we did. And that felt like, you know, a full loss because then it's he said, she said. And that was the trajectory of like the season, I don't think any of us would have been able to like last. Yeah, it probably just felt like, oh my gosh, we're already so drained.

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Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, it was after the basketball date, we resolved things. After the finance date, you know, we resolved things too. It was like, we don't have to be friends, you know. We don't have to even really agree. agree with each other. We just have to be cordial and we have to understand that like there are multiple people involved in this and you can't just make it about yourself when you're in a group setting. You know, take that time when you're alone with your own thoughts or, you know, with grant

to like figure that out, but don't kind of like spew that on us all the time. Yeah. And it was good and we were fine. Yeah. Okay. So here comes Carolina. And Rose. Oh, Carolina and Roe. Yeah. Yeah. I guess like what's your point of view on the whole carolina situation or do you want to do want to do part by part let's do carolina and rose first and then we'll jump to okay carolina and rose what went down there what went down there because here as a viewer and us like kind of recapping the show and watching the show um it's kind of like you feel bad for rose but in the same breath you're kind of like why would you tell like in my opinion I'm like why Why would you tell Carolina that Grant said that?

Yeah, it's too bad. We couldn't see that conversation. Yeah, like why give up that information? Because really, that's hurting you, no matter what way you look at it by releasing that to Grant. I know. Yeah, it's so tricky because I remember it was prom night. And I saw Carolina having kind of a long conversation with Grant. And I forget who I was talking to, but my perspective was like, you know, oh, good, let her have this long conversation.

She's probably talking about all the insecurities. She talked to us about nonstop when she came home from the date and she might either finish that conversation and like leave or she might stop having all these like doubts. And then the conversations with us will be better because we had, I don't think any of the girls had. any idea that that had happened, you know, behind the conversation between her and Carolina. And so. Oh, interesting. She hadn't mentioned it to anyone of like, oh, my God, guess what Roe said to me last night? No, I don't think so because we were all kind of like, what is she talking about?

I was the one being like all of our insecurities that she's been talking to us about. So like let it happen. Were her insecurities, her insecurity, like her being insecure if like Grant was into her or her being yeah we're hearing a lot on the show of like her neck like we're hearing vague statements of like her insecurity is her negative comments but like could you give us a little yeah just like what more specifically was it yeah um you know the tricky thing is that obviously a lot of conversations do tend to happen off camera and i don't know if that's intentional for these reasons or not but you know i don't want to necessarily play

They'd telephone, but there were, from my eyes, some doubts about who he was as a person and the process, which is fine and fair, but you kind of have to accept that going into it. And you can have doubts, but to constantly tear down what we're all also here to do is hard to hear. And just doubts about like going on American Idol, being like this is a singing competition, like, fuck. Yeah, you know, because I don't even know if I could sing. And you were like, well, then why'd you come?

You know, it's like you could do your best, you know, but you can also opt out if you realize it's not for you and nobody will judge you. So I think hearing the things about Grant that we did, especially when she was the one who had kind of one of the only few people who had alone time with him, we're all trying to make sense of, you know, this process and him as a person. And we're kind of taking what people are saying and making our own judgments. So to hear negativity about him when we haven't had a chance to really get to know him is hard because then you're maybe more reserved than you already were or you're not ready to like open up

or you don't trust him because of somebody else's, you know, emotions. And so it's tricky, you know, it's hard and it was it was just really negative all the time. Gotcha. That's helpful context for sure. So she comes back from her conversation with Grant. And I'm assuming Grant then pulls Rose right away. And does it kind of start to unfold within the house of what's happening? Yeah, I was sitting next to Rose. And he came in hot. And he was like, Rose, can I talk to you?

And I kind of looked at her like, oh, wow. He's like, you, let's go outside. And I looked at him and I was like, oh, like he's not really happy. He doesn't look like happy. And when she left, we were all kind of like, ooh, what's happening? And then I think, you know, that's when the game of telephone started happening and girls were kind of finding out little pieces of info and we were putting things together. And I was just like, oh shit. My initial reaction was the same as like, Rose, why would you say that? You know, what possibly did you think was going to happen that could have a positive impact on yourself, him, Carolina, or the group by like speaking that into existence? And I said that to her right after the Rose ceremony. I was kind of, you know, I lost my composure for a second.

And I was like, what are you doing, girl? And then I think you start to kind of get to know people's personalities more. And I don't think Rose had a single ounce of like malicious intent. I think that she thought she was being provided with a safe space to have a girl-to-girl conversation. in a way that compartmentalized her friendship over the, over the relationship. And ultimately, I think she got burned because of it because she maybe trusted the wrong person or people.

Interesting. That's so hard. It was unfortunate because we did like Rose. And I mean, we still like Rose, but it just seemed like that incident once it happened. It was going to be really hard for her to come back from. Yeah. I don't think there's really any coming back from that in the short amount of time

that you have. If you're trying to dig yourself out of a hole during that time, it's like, it's almost useless. Yeah. You just don't have enough time on this show to dig yourself out of a hole. You know, like, yeah, you're in the hole. You're in the hole. Okay.

Let's let's talk about you now. Okay. It's, you know, it's the day or week before hometowns. You guys are in Edinburgh. At this point, you haven't had a one-on-one. Where is your mindset with where you stand with? Grant going into Edinburgh. Well, I remember one of me and Grant's first conversations.

I had told him, you know, I was like, do not give me a one-on-one too early because, like, I won't open up. And I'm like, oh, really? Yeah. And then so then we're like, you know, we leave Scotland and I was like, shit. Like, I think I, I think I messed that up because, you know, I don't even know if I'm going to get one now. Wait, you mean Madrid.

leaving Madrid yes yes yes and I was like oh my gosh like I definitely like screwed this one up I probably should have kept my mouth shut and just let him do what he thought was best and I was panic because I thought kind of going into Madrid I was like oh you know it's going to be my time to shine he's keeping me around for a reason and then you know you're like wow we have one more chance before our hometowns and I didn't know if I was even going to be able to go to hometowns if I didn't have that one-on-one time or if he was going to even be able to see that like future with me. That's so interesting because I we literally just talked about this on our recap and I think in Madrid I had said like I thought this might be like I thought Juliana might get

the date this week and we were just saying I was like I don't know like what happened but like this is a late date like it's not a good sign like I don't know how this has happened that like you know it's a really late date. You're taking yourself out of the game. If I was Grant, I would have been, I would have fucked with you for sure. I would have been like, I would have chose someone. I feel like, Madrid and been like, that could have been you and I would have just walked away.

That could have been you. That could have been you. Oh my gosh. I was definitely like shaking in my boots for sure. But it seems like as much as it probably provoked some anxiety in Madrid, it may be paid off in the long run because you did get the chance to open up and maybe you wouldn't have felt comfortable if you got in like a week two week three date yeah and and it's it's a funny position to be in but honestly i think the later one-on-ones are a little bit better because you have such a good

if you have such a good time and you are able to kind of like get deeper than moving forward there's less and less girls so you know you get more time to continue you know to work on that where in the beginning it's like you feel for girls who get the first um one-on-one because then kind of like the rest of the time they're watching other people get those opportunities and you're back in a group setting in the minimal cocktail date night time and rose ceremony time and you depend on like those moments to build on a relationship that you had a whole like day date and night portion to really kind of like get into yeah you essentially never had to go from a one-on-one back to a group date yeah you got your one you was like group dates

And then one-on-one dates. That's nice. Yeah. That is nice. Yeah. It was a good feeling. Yeah. So you get this princess dress-up date.

How do you feel about the activity? How's it going with Grant? It's going really good with Grant. You know, I think this was definitely one of the times where we just had fun during the day portion for sure. We kind of just, you know, in the little moments that you do have when you're not, you know, having a deep conversation or, you know, you're kind of switching up scenes or settings. You kind of just get to know somebody in those like little moments a lot more. So I started to feel really comfortable with him.

And so, you know, not to say that things were just like surface level, but it was more like, let's just have fun because we don't know what's going to happen. And let's try to enjoy each other's company and see if this is something that, you know, could actually really work on the outside. world and we did that you know we did a little dress up we uh you know drink some champagne we got to like dance you know and on a red carpet how awkward was that it's so awkward yeah and the worst with those dates is you're like I don't want to do this but at the same time like the sooner we get this done the sooner it's over like the sooner we nail this dancing the sooner we can stop

dancing. Yes. I was like praying that, you know, my date was not going to involve one of those like, you know, singers or artists and it's just you two. I'm so awkward and like I don't know how to dance. And so I was just like, that's probably not for me. But luckily we had, you know, professional dancers around us. And I hope that they, you know, they were still in the show. Yeah. They killed it. Yeah. See, that's the, that's the like paradise. like how you explained like you know between sets and like being able to like get to know somebody that way like paradise is the opposite like you actually get to know somebody like all day and then like those on screen moments are kind of like minimal. I would I would flip what you're saying and say like the in between moments that you get on Bachelor and Bachelorette is like most of your time on Paradise versus. That's what I said.

I know. That's what you meant. I don't know if that's what you said. That's fair. I'm following now. Yes. And then we go into the night portion and you open up about your experience having someone close to you in your life deal with substance abuse, which is something that Grant can relate to. He's been very open about his father's struggles and how that's impacted his family and his relationship.

was it comforting opening up to him about that knowing that he was hopefully going to have a deeper level of understanding yeah truthfully when I listened to his interview before coming on coming on the season that was one of the things that I found most endearing about him was that he knows what it's like to love somebody and and watch them struggle with that but rather than, you know, there's no rulebook for handling substance abuse. There's no right or wrong way and everybody, you know, handles things differently. But to see him, like, see love be at the forefront of how he was viewing it and handling it. That to me meant everything because, you know, that's how myself and my big family kind of went into that.

And it paid off well for us. It doesn't always pay off. But to have somebody that had been through that and handled it. Similarly, I felt really comfortable talking, talking to him about it. Yeah. That's good. Do you think your, did that make your relationship stronger after that conversation and just after your entire one-on-one? I think so.

I think that, you know, you see somebody in interviews or you see the way they talk about it, you know, to other people, but to have that conversation with somebody who's also been through it and be able to connect on that. And one of the biggest things, too, about it is, you know, when you're going through that and you're kind of isolate yourself, whether that's by choice or by circumstance, being able to find the strength and the determination to dig yourself out of it is really powerful. And to me, that's a characteristic of him or a character trait of him that I got to really understand. And that for me was enough to be like, okay, another checkbox. Like, he's a good one. I want to keep them. Going into your 101 date, where would you say your relationship was at and then leaving your one-on-one date?

How are you feeling about everything? Going into it, nerve-wracking because, you know, you kind of have, we've had, we had a really good base. I will say that. You know, we have had really good conversations. Some were just silly and lighthearted and some were really serious, but, you know, for the most part, it was, I was still trying to understand if I really liked him. And so leaving the one-on-one, I felt sure about him as a person from the conversations we had. And, you know, I don't think anybody's perfect, but I think that he is, you know, a really well-rounded, compassionate, caring man.

and that was the type of person I wanted a future with. So I felt secure. Were you at this point now we're pretty deep into it? Are you starting to compare your relationship to the relationship of the other girls with him? Like, is there anyone you're worried about at this point? I tried to really just compartmentalize that with the girls. And I pride myself that I feel like I did a really good job. I was always able to listen when girls wanted to.

talk about their time and I never took it personally because I like I said, I'm a bit of a slow burn. So I'm I'm never the one that kind of just like latches on to somebody and gets jealous. I'm kind of like, we're all dating him. We all kind of like him. You know, what did you like and what did you dislike? And I kind of took that back with me and tried to kind of save it for future use informing my own opinion. So I was never really like intimidated or nervous by anybody's relationship but I definitely saw what I felt is some relationships were stronger than others and you try to resonate with the girls in terms of like oh you know if like am I like her you know is he is he going to make sense for me um but not necessarily by like intimidation

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So we just saw Carolina Serafina and Alex Alex just got sent home Yeah

So out of Out of those women Were you would also Did you think like maybe Dina was not going to make it And Alex was or anything like that? No I think I felt I felt pretty good about like

You know him keeping Edina and Latia Those made sense to me Obviously he's got a tough position to make But Zoe Not having one on one time That to me was like surprising because I was like, wow, their connection must be so strong in the small amount of time

that they got that he didn't even feel like he needed that additional time. And that was a surprise to me. Not that I didn't like see their connection, but obviously Zoe was not really like opening up to the group. So she was very closed off. So you don't really know kind of what was happening behind closed doors with her. And so it definitely that took me by surprise. No, that took, that took us by surprise too for the exact same reason just like oh wow like the connection must be strong based on like the fact she didn't get a one-on-one she's still going to hometowns yeah totally um i want to quickly ask you not to take it off the love and bring it back to the drama but you were like had a little moment with carolina and then we saw you talk to grant about that

yeah were you nervous at all to bring that to him for what that may have meant for your relationship with him, your relationships in the house. I know that can be like a scary position to be in. Okay, well, I would like to say with that is, you know, I think if you really rewind and watch the conversation that I had with, with Carolina initially and how I started it, I truly went in there with the intention of having a girl-to-girl respectful conversation

and bring up that the fact that her words and her actions were having a negative effect on the people around her because I did not think that she was aware of that. And it was in her response to me is what made it feel and look more like a confrontation than what was ever intended. Gotcha. And so then my conversation with Grant, you know, like I said, there's a lot of things that happen behind closed doors. and I'm not a liar and there's truth in what I said, but I thought that my game plan going

into the night was that I was not going to bring it up to him, and it wasn't going to bring it up, you know, ever again to the other girls. He wanted to address it, and it was, I felt it would be doing him a disservice if I didn't at least try to present the facts that I knew, not any of the hearsay, not any of the telephone, just things that I knew that had been said, about him and his character and how it was affecting the group. And that to me is true to who I am. So, you know, that's just a little taste of it. And if he didn't like that, then it was probably for the best of us that, you know,

I went home because I'll never not speak truthfully and stand on my own business. But I will also never poke my neck into situations that don't necessarily require my words. Well, yeah. And if he's asking you, you're obviously going to say, okay, well, you're asking me a direct question. I am going to give you my most honest answer because you're asking me for information and I'm not going to lie or say something that I don't feel is true. Yeah. And I would never intentionally try to paint somebody in a negative light. You know, obviously things are cut and clipped as to, you know, the story that needs to be told and that's fine. And what was shown, it did come out. of my mouth. I think that there's just a lot more to the story, but that I was able to provide him some clarity in that. On a scale of 1 through 10, 10 being love, one being hate. Where does Carolina fall on that show? Joe, that's such an aggressive question. Oh, my God. I think that right now, Carolina and I are in a very similar position that we've opened ourselves up to public judgment and some people are going to agree with her and disagree with me and vice versa but the one

thing that I would never do is try to bring an additional negativity her way knowing that it could hurt her. I wasn't trying to tear her down in the conversation when I pulled her one on one and I'm not trying to tear her down now and I will never try to tear her down because I respect her as a person and a human. I just don't have to like her and that's fine and that's fair and that's how I feel about it. I hate Carolina too. No. No, it's a great answer. Okay.

Wait, may I ask, is that the motivation for the be nice t-shirt you're wearing today? For everyone listening, Juliana's wearing a white t-shirt and a black letter that says, be nice. I think, you know, one of the biggest things that I try to pride myself in is the quote that my grandmother used to say, and she instilled in my entire family's life. And I have a tattooed on me, and it says, it's nice to be nice. and you know life is just way too hard and it's too serious to spread anything but kindness and you know the people that deserve to be loved the least need to be loved the most so be nice bitches love it i love that okay uh before we're going to play a quick game with you

uh okay before we do going into quick question what are you most worried about going into hometowns with grant meeting your family worried maybe just nervous yeah like when i tell you my family's like loud and crazy and they just like if they don't know you they will have you come sit for you a drink and and ask you your life story um i didn't know if that was going to be overwhelming and knowing he was also meeting three other women's families like i didn't want him to feel like it was too much and i had no idea like who was really going to like show up and show their you know loudness out and say something out of pocket and I was just I was so nervous about that like I love my family and so going into this it was like

you have to love these people because if you love me you're going to love them and they will love you right back but we're not for everybody and that's okay I feel you yeah I feel you there okay we're going to play a quick game uh rapid fire get to know juliana it's just um juliana okay first thing that comes to your head what is your dream vacation destination um i want to go to cicely favorite comfort movie or tv show uh step up how do you step up oh that was a throwback answer i was not expecting that how do you unwind after a long day Uh, a glass of cabsov. What is your love language?

Love letters. What is your favorite home-cooked meal? Uh, pasta and turkey meatballs from my sister. What is your go-to drink at a bar? A dirty, extra dirty martini with gin. Hendricks, please. What is someone, who is someone, I just had one of those. Who is someone that inspires you? my grandmother olympia what music artist would you love to see perform live i don't really like

concerts but i feel like uh teddy swims i like that if you were stranded on a deserted island and you could only bring two girls from your season who would you bring uh alley jo and parisa because priest would take care of all the all the bugs what is a piece of advice you've never forgotten um when life gives you hell just keep going because why would you ever want to stay in hell what are three essentials you always have in your purse chapstick um a little perfume and extra contacts because I'm blind.

And if you could describe grant season in one word, what would it be? Eventful. Eventful. It has been eventful. Juliana, thank you so much for coming on Bachelor Happy Hour and taking the time. It was really great. Interviewing you and getting to know you. Thank you guys

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