Bachelor Happy Hour - Justin Glaze: Triangle of Roses
Episode Date: July 15, 2025Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Justin Glaze! Justin is here to tell us all about this crazy week in “Paradise” and what his perspective was. We jump right... in, kicking off the episode with his relationship and breakup with Susie. He tells us how things came to be and what that breakup looked like, including the timeline. Then, he tells us all about his road to “Paradise” and what he went into his journey looking for. Next, of course, we dive into everything about his connection with Lexi, including all the details behind his shocking Rose Ceremony decision. How does he feel looking back at this decision? Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
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This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
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Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour.
I'm Joe.
And I'm Serena.
And we are here today with Justin Glaze.
Justin, I love when I could just say the last name and just smooth.
You have a good name.
Justin Glaze.
Welcome.
Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.
Thanks for having me, guys.
Of course.
I think this is, I don't know, is this the first time that we've ever been across from each other on a podcast?
It actually may be.
Yeah.
I'm thinking about it.
Yeah.
Yeah, which is shocking.
Yeah, we'll see how this goes.
Okay, so you go back on Bachelor in Paradise.
This is your, is this your second or third time on the show?
Don't do me like that show.
Second.
Okay, that's what I thought.
That's what I thought.
I was like pretty sure, but things got a little mixed up because we had that fucking season off.
So I was like, you know, I just get a little confused.
You also, on your season of paradise, you left and then you came back.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
Fair, fair, fair.
Yes.
So, I mean, technically, technically.
I mean, listen, I went on twice as well, so I have no room to speak.
Not as well.
You're the only one here that went on twice.
Huh?
You're the only one here that went on twice.
Well, Justin went on twice.
No, he went on one time.
He's only been on Paradise once.
Now he's been on twice.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry, we're a little brain fried.
what was
so we know that
you were in a relationship with Susie
prior to going on
I guess
just before going on
Bachelor in Paradise
what made you want to go on
I mean you're single at this point
you guys had a break up
how long ago was the breakup
prior to going on the show
so we broke up
in June of
24 I guess that would have been
right
and then we like kind of semi got back together but we kept things like super private
so we you know kind of tried things out for a few months after that and then officially
broke up uh well we we were broken up for several months after June like through late fall
early winter and then got back together for a little bit and then broke up early at the like
the beginning of the year okay okay and were you in a space where you were you in a space where
you're like I'm ready to start dating potentially get engaged yeah I mean I had after that break up
I hadn't seen anyone else and just took some time you know put a lot of work in on myself you know
even through dating Susie you know we were in couples therapy individual therapy and stuff
like that so felt like I had made a lot of changes to myself you know my my way of thinking my
lifestyle. And so, yeah, I felt as ready as I've ever felt for another serious relationship
and to take that next step, especially as serious as my relationship was with Susie,
where we were having conversations about marriage and kids and things like that. It's the
first relationship I've been in where I've had those serious conversations that I actually
thought were going to happen in my life. And so you couple that with the work that I put in
know myself. I definitely felt like I was in prime position to, you know, take that next step
with somebody. Going into Paradise, you're ready for that next stage of life. Was there any other
preparation you did or anything you did to get ready for it? And then was your hope to find the person
that you will spend the rest of your life with when you got down there? Was that kind of what you
maybe expected to find? I guess to answer your first question,
The only other prep, I mean, stayed in therapy, prep two, got a trainer, you know,
got to get yourself right.
And then honestly, I was just so focused on work and like things that, as cliche as it
sounds, were filling my cup.
So I was just like staying busy with work, working out, painting, all the things that
are healthy for me.
I really hadn't put too much pressure on the outcome of Paradise.
Like I didn't give them any names of who I wanted to see.
Like, I really didn't care.
You know, I knew what my intentions were going in.
And if somebody matched up with that, great.
And if not, I was like, I'll see myself out of here and get back to life.
What, why did you and Susie break up?
You know, there were a lot of little things that over time, you know, kind of added up, you know, nobody.
And I think it actually kind of made the breakup tougher.
I feel like it's almost easier when somebody does.
something where you can point to it. It's like, this is why we broke up, right? But, you know,
it's odd and it's hard because as similar of people as Susie and I are, like I've never been
more compatible with somebody, we are inherently at our cores, very different people. And I think
that, you know, it's a result of both of our, you know, upbringings and relationship backgrounds, right?
both of our, both which are different between me and Susie, you know, our upbringings and
our relationship backgrounds, which have molded like who we each individually are. And so, you know,
I think we had a hard time really understanding each other and giving each other grace in the
areas that we needed it. You know, like I'm a very logical person, for instance, and she's a
very emotional person, right? And so we were struggling to meet each other where we needed
to meet to get through certain obstacles right so it's like two people can be so similar and so
compatible but like those little incompatibilities over time can just be such a hurdle and
you know what I will say like I commend us both for really putting in the work to try and try
and try to get through those things and ultimately you know we just had to look at each other and
say like hey like are these incompatibilities significant enough where you know we don't think
that we can make this work and that's kind of the point that we got to and like I said it to me it's
almost harder because it's like damn like we're this close you know to making something work
and you know something that potentially could have been great but um but yeah that's kind of
kind of what it was yeah that's tough would you say the breakup was more or less mutual um it was
I mean, we had definitely, you know, again, there's, I think everyone has their, you know, preferences and what they look for in a relationship and different tolerances and things like that, right? And so I, you know, I don't think either is better or worse, right? Like, I know for me, and I think it's a matter of like where you prioritize certain things in the relationship, right? And what you need at a certain point in your life, I guess.
But, you know, sorry, that's a long-winded answer.
That's okay.
More or less, it was mutual.
I mean, Susie brought up the conversation.
You know, like, I tend to be a person that, like, you know, I'm like, oh, we can get through it.
We can get through it, right?
Where it's like, okay.
And for me, I hold such high value in, like, what I call, like, that X factor of just being best friends, right?
like Susie's my best friend and I've never had a relationship like that and I know that I need
somebody like that as a partner like I need a best friend right where it's like you know where
Susie was at at that point in time like she I think needed somebody that kind of you know maybe
checked a few other boxes you know in those categories that we were struggling to get through and so
so yeah but ultimately it was like nobody was like blindsided like oh my god like where's this
coming from it was kind of like the writing was on the wall
like maybe we need to re-evaluate this.
Yeah.
Okay, so you pivoting to first day of paradise, you get down there, you know, I'm kind of,
I was in a similar situation as you, had a potential X that could potentially go on the beach.
First day down there, I don't know most of the people down there.
My head, I would panic.
I was like, what the fuck am I doing back here?
where where is your headspace when you're like down and you're like all right here I am
and it's also it's a new format so did that like make you feel better new location everything
like that it's funny I actually just saw earlier today somebody said that Justin was giving
Joe first day on the beach because that's exactly how I felt I was like pro what is this
I mean honestly the new format was cool right like I mean it was the air conditioning
They had me at air conditioning.
I was like, sign me up.
I'm good.
It was interesting.
I mean, format-wise, like, it was so I'm glad that I got the experience at like the
OG location.
It was weird.
Like we barely touched the beach.
Like it wasn't really a part of Paradise is all pool deck, you know?
You're saying it's giving like Bachelor in Resort, not Bachelor in Paradise is rich.
No, totally.
Like they're, you know, the day beds are on the beach at the old place.
Like there was nobody was ever at the beach.
You were Sandy 24-7 in the last location.
Right, exactly.
Um, so the location was cool, but I remember when I walked in, you know, I really had only known Jonathan, you know, everyone else I had never, I mean, well, Kyle was on my season, but everyone else I had never met in person, like had never spoken to, wasn't following any of these people. So I really kind of felt like an outcast. I just felt like out of place and awkward. I'm just like, where is everyone? You know, I just, I felt so out of place. Yeah. That's a, that's a tough, that's a tough place. Yeah. Um, okay. So, so,
So then you kind of, you hit it off with Lexi.
Yeah, I guess tell us how, like, how that goes at the beginning.
Yeah, like who are you chatting with other than Lexi?
Like, who are you interested in and those initial conversations?
Yeah, so I've really only pulled Lexi and Alex.
When I, I knew I had a date card going in.
So I was like, okay, I need to like put out some feelers and see, you know, who I could potentially take on this date.
So I only pulled, I mean, I had kind of like side conversations with people, you know, like you're in a group and you kind of can get a vibe for somebody. And so, you know, I was just, you know, trying to be super intentional with my time. And I'm a pretty intuitive guy. So I kind of know like who I could vibe with and who I probably won't. You know, that being said, I was like, I'm open to being proven wrong. But up the gates, you know, I pulled Lexi first and then I pulled Alex after that, you know, and Lexi was definitely more of the series.
you know, good head on our shoulders, you know, intentional type of person. At least that's
where our conversation went, where we were very aligned in a lot of what we were, you know,
our past relationship stuff and what we were looking for. Whereas Alex was more of the vibrant,
funny, goofy personality, which is also important, right? And so I kind of had to weigh
what I thought could have more longevity. And I was like, you know, I was, I was more intrigued
with Lexi. I was like, you know, maybe I can
extract that funny side
out of her. So
I ended up going with Lexi.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly
and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking
for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back
to school week on the OK Storytime podcast,
so we'll find out soon. This person
writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out
with his young professor a lot. He doesn't
think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's
insisting we get to know each other, but
I just water gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
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So your date gets canceled with Lexi, it gets rained out, and then you end up taking the date the next day.
So how does the date go and do you guys, on the date, do you talk at all about your past relationship?
Because that ends up being like what seems to freak her out.
We see a little bit of the start of that conversation between the two of you about, you know, if Susie's coming down and what that's going to look like.
Yeah. I mean, I will say I didn't just randomly bring up my ex on this date. It was a topic, obviously. You know, inside conversations, you know, because we got rained out the first day. So I guess two days, two or three days later is when we actually had our date. And so over the course of those days, you know, just inside of our conversations, I knew it was a point of contention, you know, for Lexi. And there's kind of like the elephant in the room of like, hey, where are you at with Susie? Like, here's kind of.
where my trepidation is and so it was cool because I had gotten I mean it was it was a bummer that
our date got rained out the first day but it was to me almost a blessing in disguise because I got
to know her a little bit better over the next couple of days so there was a there was more comfort
going into that date right so you know it was definitely a topic that I knew we needed to address so
I forget how on that date it came up but I know that she had touched on her relationship I can't
remember she had semi previously just gotten out of a relationship as well and so you know when I
pulled her that's something that she brought up so I was like okay cool like this seems like a great
person to navigate this with someone that is also coming out of a serious relationship so
one that's also you know being very intentional and serious about pursuing someone and not just
you know paradising right like and no shade to anyone who's doing that like great but that's just
not what I went in it for this time around um
And so we had kind of connected on like, you know, past relationship stuff.
And so, you know, the most, the elephant in the room and the more serious topic for me was my relationship with Susie, right?
The elephant in the room, quote unquote, and the more serious and touchy subject for Lexi, what's her health condition?
Both of which we assured each other like, hey, I'm not going to pry into the stuff with Susie.
And I was like, hey, I will never pry into your health condition.
Like whenever you feel comfortable, it was very mutual.
like whenever you feel comfortable touching on either one of those topics like I'm here to listen
and so that's kind of what it was on both sides and so I was like let me take this date as an
opportunity to hopefully put her mind at ease and answer any questions she may have about the
relationship and just be as transparent as possible so that's really what I was trying to do on that
date did you know at that point that Lexi and Susie had had a conversation on the phone
with one another prior to going to Paradise
So she had told me a couple, yeah, she had told me like maybe the second day, she was like, man, like, which I thought was kind of awkward because in the, or it was interesting, because watching it back at the beginning, I think it was her that was like, wait, who is his ex again? And then I think Jess was like, Susie. And I was like, didn't she talk to her? Yeah. You know all about me. Yeah. Right. So I don't know. That was interesting. But anyway, she did. She did.
She did tell me that they, she was, once we had kind of hit it off, she was like, wow, like, this is a bummer because, you know, I just feel uncomfortable.
I had, she was like, I had never spoken to Susie before, but then Ariel put us in a group chat, you know, Lexi, Susie and Ariel, the guest, all as kind of like a, hey, like, you know, wearing this together type thing.
Exactly.
What are you wearing?
Let's go.
Exactly.
And she was like, Susie was so sweet.
She offered to like exchange clothes and yada, yada, yada.
So Lexi's whole thing was like, man, it's like a bummer.
I almost wish that we hadn't had that intro because then I wouldn't feel awkward about this or obligated to talk to her.
You know, there wouldn't be any contention there.
So that was kind of the extent of her telling me that, you know, they had only talked one time prior, like very soon before we all left for Paradise.
Yeah, and we definitely see that Lexi is struggling with the Susie of it all.
Well, we don't see that till after the row ceremony.
Well, she's expressing in her interviews, like, you know, is this going to be a thing?
Lexi knew that Susie was coming down to Paradise.
Did you know that as well?
Did you and Susie have a conversation about how you were going to navigate both being there?
What did you know?
Yeah, I knew that Susie was going to be there.
I mean, we hadn't talked in a long, long time.
but we did touch base about, you know, Paradise once, you know, I got the call and I was talking
to producers and obviously my biggest anxiety and stressor was like, you know, they were pretty,
they were very transparent about like, hey, we reached out to Susie as well. And I'd imagine they did
the same with her. So I was appreciative of that. You know, it's not something I would want to be
blindsided with. Like, you know, it's already tough enough to do something like this with your ex.
But, you know, we had a conversation.
And it was really along the lines of like, hey, let's call it what it.
Like, this will be really awkward and tough.
And if anything, it's going to be sad.
Like, we're not going to be those exes where things get messy and there's any drama or
anything like that.
Like, there's always been a ton of love and respect between us, no matter what our
relationship looks like.
And so I kind of had some comfort in knowing that.
And I think I can say the same for her, knowing that it's not in either one of our
personalities to, like, step on the other's toes or make them look bad or talk bad
about them in interviews or anything like that right so it was really kind of a conversation like
hey if we're doing this like let's just be the coolest exes that we can possibly be show each other
respect and you know hope for the best for the other person and that's really all we can do you're better
off hating each other no i'm telling you dude it's almost easier when it's like i can't stand your guts
you know it's serious it's tough yeah because when you have that then you're you know you're also
you have another person's feelings that you are now very aware of
of and worried about um okay so then cutting back to lexie now we're on episode two and yeah it's kind
of like she's just like i want to pause the breaks i want to i want to put the breaks on this
relationship romantically romantically and it's like why did that go down when it went down
it seemed like she was kind of well aware of the entire situation yeah as a viewer watching it
it looks like she spirals about the Susie stuff before Susie comes down to the point where
she's like I can't do this and then Susie comes down she gets that reassurance she needs
and then is like no I think I can do this was that how it felt like it played out to you
and was her pumping the brakes a shock to you when it happened um I wouldn't say it
was a shock. It definitely caught me about surprise, but it all sort of tracked from things that I was
picking up over the course of the prior X-Men of days that I had known her. It was very tough for me
to get an accurate read on Lexi for a multitude of reasons. You know, out the gates, I knew
that she was very uncomfortable in the environment. I felt uncomfortable being there for other
reasons but I know she was very uncomfortable with the cameras you know she was like oh my dad watches
this with his co-workers like I don't want to kiss on camera and stuff like that so like fair but also
that's tough that's tough on a dating show you know okay I'm gonna you know and in in through it all
I just tried my best to have grace and like be gentle and kind and like help her through it you know
and try to be that source of comfort I'm like hey I know
this is awkward and uncomfortable and then you throw in the situation with susy which i know that
she didn't sign up for right so i just tried to have empathy for her because i understand
if roles are reversed and i was interested in someone and their ex was coming and now of a sudden
i'm signed up in this potential not even triangle because you know it's not like we're all
you know it's not like a dating thing but i know it's not something she necessarily signed up for
so i just tried to be as understanding as possible but i was treating it like how
even though we had only known each other for maybe four days at this point, I was trying to be as intentional as possible and treat this like real-life dating instead of like a TV show, which maybe to my detriment, I don't know.
But, you know, I tried to do what I could to step in and give her reassurance and show up for her without kind of overstepping or doing too much.
And I know, again, you know, because of the heat, you know, I know that she had to like go to her room a lot.
but then there's other times where it felt kind of cold
where I'm like, is she just not into me
or is she looking for other guys?
And without that communication, it was hard for me to know.
And so eventually I did bring it up,
but I think it was after this conversation.
So all those things that I was kind of making note of
and like kind of side comments about maybe waiting
for other guys to come,
they were all kind of adding up
where it didn't come out of nowhere to me,
but it still caught me by surprise like, all right,
like I guess, you know, this is weird,
but I understand where you're coming front.
I think the more difficult part of that conversation for me was, you know, I understand the trepidation as it relates to Susie coming in, but to your point, Serena, like, it then became about, well, I know you're in L.A. trying to grow your business, and I'm in Atlanta, and I have no plans of moving from Atlanta. I don't know if we want the same things out of life. And so I was kind of like, hey, your feelings are valid. I get it. But to be fair, we haven't had those conversations. You haven't asked me if I'm open to relocating. You have,
haven't asked me, you know, what I want out of, you know, family wise, how many kids,
whatever. I was like, I want to have those conversations, but it's hard to build up to those
more meaningful conversations when you're really not around much for us to, like, have those
small special moments to get more comfortable with each other, you know, and that's where she
she did, you know, I give her credit. She was like, hey, like, sorry, like I am spiraling right
now, like I'm projecting, you know, I tend to do that, you know, and so she apologized for
and I understood. I'm like, hey, I get it. This is a very high stress environment, but it did kind
that part kind of caught me by surprise.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly,
and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Oh, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast,
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This person writes,
my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem,
but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other,
but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
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was there was there an option for you to pivot like was there anyone else like would
you were you potentially like maybe i'll go see if something's there with alex was there anyone
else on the beach yeah i mean so during that conversation as well you know she made a comment
where she was like i think that maybe you should talk to other girls you know she's like maybe
I want to talk to other guys and I was like hey totally I was like I'm not a psychopath we've
known each other for four days like you know what I mean feel free but again it was it was a bit
frustrated yeah yeah that conversation that conversation was in there yeah yeah yeah I told her I was
like I was like hey I trust me I was like you can talk to whoever and and in fact like over the
course of those past couple days guys were pulling her and having conversations but after every
conversation she would come back to me which was reassuring to me
and you know new guys would come in or you know Sam came in I was like oh like I
could see him taking you on a date and she was like oh dear God please no you know so
she would make comments where I'm like oh maybe she's not interested in people I don't
know I thought you know I don't know but I told her I was like hey like I know myself I'm
generally just not it's not because I'm like latching onto you like I'm generally just
not interested in anyone else here not to say that if new girls came in that I
wouldn't explore like I'm being realistic and honest with you but I also I'm not
going to just force myself to talk to somebody that I know I'm not going to be interested in. I'm
not going to waste my time. Right. And there's nobody here that I see a romantic connection with
aside from you. So why even divert my attention and go off? I was like, but that being said,
just let me know what you need from me to show you that I'm still interested while also giving you
your space to do whatever you want to do. Yeah. I think that's fair. Okay, so Susie's down there.
you guys end up having like a heartfelt conversation she tears up a little bit what does that do to your headspace um i mean
it was definitely sad as predicted right like it was on one hand it was great to see a familiar face right
you know it was kind of like that best friendship doesn't leave right you know we're no longer romantically
involved but it's like we still got our inside jokes it's still it's still me and you right
like we know each other so well but again I think we were it was just like a conversation
that needed to happen to break the ice and just be like hey we're both here it is what it is
this is going to be tough and so you know it was definitely an emotional conversation and I think
more so I like was just concerned about her being comfortable I know she like it was super awkward
when she came in you know I know we both had high hopes for paradise and at that
point I was like damn like it really feels like she's getting the short end of the stick already like
I knew pickings were slim so I'm like well even just the way it doesn't feel fair like the time and way she
came in obviously isn't Susie's choice like they sent her in but like even just like coming in at
night not coming in like I think like morning with a date card's always a little easier because
there's that format of okay I'm going to pull a few people I'm going to take someone like you have that
structure where she was kind of sent into just like a free night and I would imagine that is hard to
navigate right I'm like everyone's tired like it's raining yeah yeah this is tough how like how many
nights did it rain it looked like it was raining on you guys every night the rain is a problem like
every night yeah like we couldn't I mean obviously my date got canceled all the cocktail
party at my time like like there wasn't a single night that wasn't affected by the rain
yeah even in like the intro credits we see like
Like some people are dry and some people are in the rain.
Yeah, it was crazy.
It was crazy.
Yeah, it's brutal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Before we jump to the rose ceremony, can we just quickly touch on you have a conversation with Lexi, what appears to be at the cocktail party kind of close to the rose ceremony timing wise, where she says, like, I know that I wanted to take a step back romantically, but I talk to Susie.
We see their conversation.
Susie reassures her, like, nothing's.
weird it's all good and she then says to you like I'm back in like I want to keep exploring I feel
way better where's your head at after that conversation well during the conversation I was like man
this sounds great right this is everything I want to hear and then I kind of took a step back and
I was like wait a minute I forgot we have the roses tonight so you know once it kind of sank in
I was like, man, okay, this is, you know, and I didn't, I think because of the rain,
like I, I, I just didn't have an opportunity to have a follow up conversation with her to,
you know, and I didn't, I didn't want to press her or anything like during that conversation
because, you know, it all sounded good, but I do remember kind of being like, okay, just 24
hours prior, like you wanted to put a pin in this and it wasn't even just about this.
And I was like, I understand that you admittedly, like, spiraled a bit, but it wasn't that it was just about the Susie factor, right?
It was all the other things that got thrown out that were cause for concern on her end where I was like, okay, so post this conversation with Susie that I wasn't there, so I don't know what transpired.
But, like, post that conversation, now you have no hesitation about us, like geographically relationship, like none of them anymore.
so that that was kind of like a huh yeah yeah moment for me of like how sudden of a 180 it was
you know and it'd be different if like I was really feeling like she was also pursuing me and
like something was there but the whole time it kind of felt like pulling teeth yeah it get something
from her and this was like I mean it's little things right like this was the first time that
she threw a leg up on me or like was kind of like physical and touchy with me right and I
just like man like this is what I want but where has anything like this been this whole
time right you know think if do you think if that if that had been there you wouldn't have
done what you did by giving totally rose okay totally totally because it could be painted as like
because susie was going home you felt so bad no matter what your connection in the house was
you were no no no no no so I mean it was such a split
second decision, but in my brain, I was like, okay, on one hand, there's this person that I've
known for four or five days that isn't really giving me any rhythm here. I can't really get a
true pulse as to how she feels about me. This person could really flip-flop and play me
tomorrow when new guys come in. Aside from that cocktail party conversation, I have no real
reason to believe that she really wants to pursue something with me long term. So there's a ton of
question marks here and she did just tell me everything that I've been wanting to hear so I could
believe it or I could listen to my intuition that like is a coincidental timing with this rose ceremony
so that's on one hand on this other hand I have this person that has been my best friend for an
entire year who has continued to be my best friend through dating her for over a year right who I have
so much love and admiration and respect for who is one of the most selfless people that I know
who I feel like got the short end of the stick and often does in life when she tries to put
herself on the back burner and do things for other people. And I have an opportunity to embody
one of the most admirable characteristics that I know she has that I strive to have. And I could give
her this opportunity to ultimately self-sacrifice and give her a chance at life because I don't think
she got a fair one. You know, Jeremy's the only guy that pulled her. Like I felt so bad. And so I
weighed those things out and that's ultimately what led to my decision. I was like, hey, I can
help this person out or I can take the risk with these question marks that I have. Right. And there
had to have been also that question with Lexi of, okay, if I give my roast Lexi, we both stay,
Susie stays too. We're all on this beach together. Is this going to be, you know, a never-ending
issue? Like for Lexi. Yeah, exactly. And here's the thing. Like if, and I was willing to see that
through. Like had Jeremy given his rose to Susie, you know, obviously I would give my rose to Lexi
and pray for the best that, you know, and take her at her word that it would no longer be an issue
and that we could all coexist. But obviously that's not what happened. Yeah. So you make the
decision to offer Susie your rose. Um, were you surprised by her reaction?
yes that was very surprised yeah you look surprised and she looks surprised and everyone looks surprised
yeah yeah i agree i think it was a big surprise to all parties involved and not involved
why do you think that she said no to your rose you know initially i had no clue um because
I thought that it was clear as day to me, like where my intentions were and what I was trying
to do by offering that up.
So I was really, really taken it back.
And I remember just, like, I kind of blacked out.
Like, I just felt numb after that and just wanted to, like, escape.
Like, I just wanted to disappear.
It was just such a hard feeling to describe.
But, you know, thinking.
back on it later that night, you know, my feelings aside, again, just knowing Susie's heart
and who she is, I was like, man, because I wasn't able to have a conversation with her beforehand,
right? And I wasn't able to like tell her what I wanted to try to do for her. So this, I have to
put myself in her shoes, like, oh, she's probably expecting me to give this rose to Lexi, right?
And so if I know Susie, of course, like, here I am trying to do something selfless for someone who is selfless.
And what would the selfless thing be for her to do?
Not accept the rose because she wouldn't want to step on Lexi's toes.
Yeah.
Right.
She wouldn't want to take a rose from somebody that she feels like deserved it, right?
Because she doesn't really know the ins and outs of, you know, I told her a little bit about what my concerns were.
But she doesn't know the ins and outs of, you know, the relationship with myself and Lexi.
So when I thought back on, I was like, oh, she probably just doesn't want to step on her toes.
So, yeah.
Was there any part of that, it doesn't come across this way, but was there any part of that move that was potentially like, hey, maybe we could see if we could rekindle?
No, because, I mean, I hadn't thought too, too far ahead, but I knew that the next week guys were coming in.
So I'm looking around and I'm like, like, do the math, there's no girls, right?
And so I didn't know exactly what I was going to do,
but I knew I wasn't going to like total my thumbs for the next two or three days
whenever the next row ceremony was.
So I was, like I said, self-sacrifice, I was going to send myself home.
I wasn't going to just hang around the beach.
Like I was going to get out of there.
Yeah.
What was it like seeing Lexi at the premiere party for Bachelor in Paradise the other night?
Where do you guys stand now?
um i mean post show i have tried to reach out to her twice um have not gotten a response back
so there were no there were no words spoken at the premier bar wow okay the silent treatment
do you think that she was standing up there expecting you 100% to be giving her the rose
totally and you know again like i i feel
bad for how that all went down I mean I stand by the choice that I made like I
don't have any regrets about it but I do feel bad and I do wish that we could
have had a conversation beforehand we just we weren't allowed to right
because at that point I really would have been like hey here are my concerns
like the conversation that we just had earlier tonight sounds great it's
everything that I've wanted to hear but and I would have pressed a little bit
more right but I didn't have the opportunity to do that so nobody saw
all coming what I pulled, right? And so, you know, post show there's a lot of things that I knew
were confusing to her that she didn't understand. And I wanted to have the opportunity to kind
of fill her in or what led up to that decision and kind of tell her, you know, what my concerns were.
And I had also heard some things post show that confirmed my intuition and some suspicions
that I had. And so I kind of wanted to just put it out to like, hey, this is what I was feeling
during the show. This is also what I've heard. These are all the things that look.
led me to the decision that I made and just, you know, have that dialogue, but, you know,
I totally understand not wanting to have that conversation, I guess.
Like, I respect that from her.
But I tried.
I think, like, if she would have pulled you to have that conversation at breakfast and you
you guys end up having a great day together and then you give the rose to Susie, I'd be like,
okay that's that you didn't have to do that at the cocktail party before the rose ceremony you have
that conversation for like the first time it's kind of like yeah it's it would be very hard for
me to not think like do you do you just want the rose right and that's what I'm saying like
you know all day I'm you know I'm looking for something and you know I don't remember if it was
that day or the day prior but you know as I said earlier I was doing all the
little things to try to really pursue this person as I would in the real world, right?
Like I know she has a lot of dietary restrictions and so I would run around the resort and,
you know, talk to the people taking orders and try to make sure her stuff was like gluten-free.
And when she was having health issues, you know, I would try to step in where I could without
overstepping.
Like, can I get you anything?
Should we go in the pool so it's a little bit cooler on your body?
Like all these little things.
And, you know, eventually I was like, okay, let me take a step back because I don't want
to be doing too much here if I don't feel it being reciprocated.
in the slightest. So I kind of remember taking a step back to see how she would kind of maneuver
throughout, you know, the cast or whatever. And that's the least we talked. That day was like
the least we had talked the entire time. So I'm like, all right. You know, and Joe, to your point,
it's like, if we had had that conversation earlier in the day and then the rest of the day, I'm like,
okay, so I believe this, you know, we're making strides here. Then I'm sure I would have made
a different decision. But at the 11th hour, it's really hard to buy it and like go.
all in on this person when someone else is sitting across for me that, you know, I really
still care about, but I'm like, hey, get a fair shot at this, you know, I was able to, you know,
I was able to come into paradise without having you there and, you know, try to pursue somebody
and, like, that's an opportunity that I wanted for her. Yeah. Yeah. And like, it's not, like,
it's really not working out for you. So why not give it to somebody that you actually cared about?
Right. Exactly. It was wild. You are such a comedic.
lighthearted like vibrant person to see you on this season from what we've seen so far like
we really are seeing a more serious side of you because you were just put in a much more serious
situation yeah trust me I'd love to be having more fun I'd love to be cracking jokes
Justin we really appreciate you coming on I love talking to you and wish you nothing but
the best appreciate you guys thanks for having me of course and to our listeners make sure
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Bye.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find
out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That seems inappropriate.
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