Bachelor Happy Hour - Justin Glaze: Triangle of Roses

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Justin Glaze! Justin is here to tell us all about this crazy week in “Paradise” and what his perspective was. We jump right... in, kicking off the episode with his relationship and breakup with Susie. He tells us how things came to be and what that breakup looked like, including the timeline. Then, he tells us all about his road to “Paradise” and what he went into his journey looking for. Next, of course, we dive into everything about his connection with Lexi, including all the details behind his shocking Rose Ceremony decision. How does he feel looking back at this decision? Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for it. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members
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Starting point is 00:01:45 I'm Simone Boyce, host of the Brightside podcast, and on this week's episode, I'm talking to Olympian, World Cup Champion, and podcast host, Ashlyn Harris. My worth is not wrapped up in how many things I've won, because what I came to realize is I valued winning so much that once it was over, I got the blues, and I was like, this is it. For me, it's the pursuit of greatness. It's the journey.
Starting point is 00:02:11 It's the people. It's the failures. It's the heartache. Listen to The Bright Side on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts. Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives.
Starting point is 00:02:43 We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with Justin Glaze. Justin, I love when I could just say the last name and just smooth.
Starting point is 00:03:07 You have a good name. Justin Glaze. Welcome. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thanks for having me, guys. Of course. I think this is, I don't know, is this the first time that we've ever been across from each other on a podcast? It actually may be.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Yeah. I'm thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah, which is shocking. Yeah, we'll see how this goes. Okay, so you go back on Bachelor in Paradise. This is your, is this your second or third time on the show? Don't do me like that show.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Second. Okay, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. I was like pretty sure, but things got a little mixed up because we had that fucking season off. So I was like, you know, I just get a little confused. You also, on your season of paradise, you left and then you came back. That's what it is. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Fair, fair, fair. Yes. So, I mean, technically, technically. I mean, listen, I went on twice as well, so I have no room to speak. Not as well. You're the only one here that went on twice. Huh? You're the only one here that went on twice.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Well, Justin went on twice. No, he went on one time. He's only been on Paradise once. Now he's been on twice. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. Sorry, we're a little brain fried.
Starting point is 00:04:23 what was so we know that you were in a relationship with Susie prior to going on I guess just before going on Bachelor in Paradise what made you want to go on
Starting point is 00:04:37 I mean you're single at this point you guys had a break up how long ago was the breakup prior to going on the show so we broke up in June of 24 I guess that would have been right
Starting point is 00:04:52 and then we like kind of semi got back together but we kept things like super private so we you know kind of tried things out for a few months after that and then officially broke up uh well we we were broken up for several months after June like through late fall early winter and then got back together for a little bit and then broke up early at the like the beginning of the year okay okay and were you in a space where you were you in a space where you're like I'm ready to start dating potentially get engaged yeah I mean I had after that break up I hadn't seen anyone else and just took some time you know put a lot of work in on myself you know even through dating Susie you know we were in couples therapy individual therapy and stuff
Starting point is 00:05:43 like that so felt like I had made a lot of changes to myself you know my my way of thinking my lifestyle. And so, yeah, I felt as ready as I've ever felt for another serious relationship and to take that next step, especially as serious as my relationship was with Susie, where we were having conversations about marriage and kids and things like that. It's the first relationship I've been in where I've had those serious conversations that I actually thought were going to happen in my life. And so you couple that with the work that I put in know myself. I definitely felt like I was in prime position to, you know, take that next step with somebody. Going into Paradise, you're ready for that next stage of life. Was there any other
Starting point is 00:06:32 preparation you did or anything you did to get ready for it? And then was your hope to find the person that you will spend the rest of your life with when you got down there? Was that kind of what you maybe expected to find? I guess to answer your first question, The only other prep, I mean, stayed in therapy, prep two, got a trainer, you know, got to get yourself right. And then honestly, I was just so focused on work and like things that, as cliche as it sounds, were filling my cup. So I was just like staying busy with work, working out, painting, all the things that
Starting point is 00:07:07 are healthy for me. I really hadn't put too much pressure on the outcome of Paradise. Like I didn't give them any names of who I wanted to see. Like, I really didn't care. You know, I knew what my intentions were going in. And if somebody matched up with that, great. And if not, I was like, I'll see myself out of here and get back to life. What, why did you and Susie break up?
Starting point is 00:07:32 You know, there were a lot of little things that over time, you know, kind of added up, you know, nobody. And I think it actually kind of made the breakup tougher. I feel like it's almost easier when somebody does. something where you can point to it. It's like, this is why we broke up, right? But, you know, it's odd and it's hard because as similar of people as Susie and I are, like I've never been more compatible with somebody, we are inherently at our cores, very different people. And I think that, you know, it's a result of both of our, you know, upbringings and relationship backgrounds, right? both of our, both which are different between me and Susie, you know, our upbringings and
Starting point is 00:08:16 our relationship backgrounds, which have molded like who we each individually are. And so, you know, I think we had a hard time really understanding each other and giving each other grace in the areas that we needed it. You know, like I'm a very logical person, for instance, and she's a very emotional person, right? And so we were struggling to meet each other where we needed to meet to get through certain obstacles right so it's like two people can be so similar and so compatible but like those little incompatibilities over time can just be such a hurdle and you know what I will say like I commend us both for really putting in the work to try and try and try to get through those things and ultimately you know we just had to look at each other and
Starting point is 00:09:01 say like hey like are these incompatibilities significant enough where you know we don't think that we can make this work and that's kind of the point that we got to and like I said it to me it's almost harder because it's like damn like we're this close you know to making something work and you know something that potentially could have been great but um but yeah that's kind of kind of what it was yeah that's tough would you say the breakup was more or less mutual um it was I mean, we had definitely, you know, again, there's, I think everyone has their, you know, preferences and what they look for in a relationship and different tolerances and things like that, right? And so I, you know, I don't think either is better or worse, right? Like, I know for me, and I think it's a matter of like where you prioritize certain things in the relationship, right? And what you need at a certain point in your life, I guess. But, you know, sorry, that's a long-winded answer. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:10:10 More or less, it was mutual. I mean, Susie brought up the conversation. You know, like, I tend to be a person that, like, you know, I'm like, oh, we can get through it. We can get through it, right? Where it's like, okay. And for me, I hold such high value in, like, what I call, like, that X factor of just being best friends, right? like Susie's my best friend and I've never had a relationship like that and I know that I need somebody like that as a partner like I need a best friend right where it's like you know where
Starting point is 00:10:44 Susie was at at that point in time like she I think needed somebody that kind of you know maybe checked a few other boxes you know in those categories that we were struggling to get through and so so yeah but ultimately it was like nobody was like blindsided like oh my god like where's this coming from it was kind of like the writing was on the wall like maybe we need to re-evaluate this. Yeah. Okay, so you pivoting to first day of paradise, you get down there, you know, I'm kind of, I was in a similar situation as you, had a potential X that could potentially go on the beach.
Starting point is 00:11:23 First day down there, I don't know most of the people down there. My head, I would panic. I was like, what the fuck am I doing back here? where where is your headspace when you're like down and you're like all right here I am and it's also it's a new format so did that like make you feel better new location everything like that it's funny I actually just saw earlier today somebody said that Justin was giving Joe first day on the beach because that's exactly how I felt I was like pro what is this I mean honestly the new format was cool right like I mean it was the air conditioning
Starting point is 00:11:59 They had me at air conditioning. I was like, sign me up. I'm good. It was interesting. I mean, format-wise, like, it was so I'm glad that I got the experience at like the OG location. It was weird. Like we barely touched the beach.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Like it wasn't really a part of Paradise is all pool deck, you know? You're saying it's giving like Bachelor in Resort, not Bachelor in Paradise is rich. No, totally. Like they're, you know, the day beds are on the beach at the old place. Like there was nobody was ever at the beach. You were Sandy 24-7 in the last location. Right, exactly. Um, so the location was cool, but I remember when I walked in, you know, I really had only known Jonathan, you know, everyone else I had never, I mean, well, Kyle was on my season, but everyone else I had never met in person, like had never spoken to, wasn't following any of these people. So I really kind of felt like an outcast. I just felt like out of place and awkward. I'm just like, where is everyone? You know, I just, I felt so out of place. Yeah. That's a, that's a tough, that's a tough place. Yeah. Um, okay. So, so,
Starting point is 00:12:58 So then you kind of, you hit it off with Lexi. Yeah, I guess tell us how, like, how that goes at the beginning. Yeah, like who are you chatting with other than Lexi? Like, who are you interested in and those initial conversations? Yeah, so I've really only pulled Lexi and Alex. When I, I knew I had a date card going in. So I was like, okay, I need to like put out some feelers and see, you know, who I could potentially take on this date. So I only pulled, I mean, I had kind of like side conversations with people, you know, like you're in a group and you kind of can get a vibe for somebody. And so, you know, I was just, you know, trying to be super intentional with my time. And I'm a pretty intuitive guy. So I kind of know like who I could vibe with and who I probably won't. You know, that being said, I was like, I'm open to being proven wrong. But up the gates, you know, I pulled Lexi first and then I pulled Alex after that, you know, and Lexi was definitely more of the series.
Starting point is 00:13:57 you know, good head on our shoulders, you know, intentional type of person. At least that's where our conversation went, where we were very aligned in a lot of what we were, you know, our past relationship stuff and what we were looking for. Whereas Alex was more of the vibrant, funny, goofy personality, which is also important, right? And so I kind of had to weigh what I thought could have more longevity. And I was like, you know, I was, I was more intrigued with Lexi. I was like, you know, maybe I can extract that funny side out of her. So
Starting point is 00:14:32 I ended up going with Lexi. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out
Starting point is 00:14:50 with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just water gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:19:19 or wherever you get your podcast. So your date gets canceled with Lexi, it gets rained out, and then you end up taking the date the next day. So how does the date go and do you guys, on the date, do you talk at all about your past relationship? Because that ends up being like what seems to freak her out. We see a little bit of the start of that conversation between the two of you about, you know, if Susie's coming down and what that's going to look like. Yeah. I mean, I will say I didn't just randomly bring up my ex on this date. It was a topic, obviously. You know, inside conversations, you know, because we got rained out the first day. So I guess two days, two or three days later is when we actually had our date. And so over the course of those days, you know, just inside of our conversations, I knew it was a point of contention, you know, for Lexi. And there's kind of like the elephant in the room of like, hey, where are you at with Susie? Like, here's kind of. where my trepidation is and so it was cool because I had gotten I mean it was it was a bummer that our date got rained out the first day but it was to me almost a blessing in disguise because I got
Starting point is 00:20:34 to know her a little bit better over the next couple of days so there was a there was more comfort going into that date right so you know it was definitely a topic that I knew we needed to address so I forget how on that date it came up but I know that she had touched on her relationship I can't remember she had semi previously just gotten out of a relationship as well and so you know when I pulled her that's something that she brought up so I was like okay cool like this seems like a great person to navigate this with someone that is also coming out of a serious relationship so one that's also you know being very intentional and serious about pursuing someone and not just you know paradising right like and no shade to anyone who's doing that like great but that's just
Starting point is 00:21:17 not what I went in it for this time around um And so we had kind of connected on like, you know, past relationship stuff. And so, you know, the most, the elephant in the room and the more serious topic for me was my relationship with Susie, right? The elephant in the room, quote unquote, and the more serious and touchy subject for Lexi, what's her health condition? Both of which we assured each other like, hey, I'm not going to pry into the stuff with Susie. And I was like, hey, I will never pry into your health condition. Like whenever you feel comfortable, it was very mutual. like whenever you feel comfortable touching on either one of those topics like I'm here to listen
Starting point is 00:21:54 and so that's kind of what it was on both sides and so I was like let me take this date as an opportunity to hopefully put her mind at ease and answer any questions she may have about the relationship and just be as transparent as possible so that's really what I was trying to do on that date did you know at that point that Lexi and Susie had had a conversation on the phone with one another prior to going to Paradise So she had told me a couple, yeah, she had told me like maybe the second day, she was like, man, like, which I thought was kind of awkward because in the, or it was interesting, because watching it back at the beginning, I think it was her that was like, wait, who is his ex again? And then I think Jess was like, Susie. And I was like, didn't she talk to her? Yeah. You know all about me. Yeah. Right. So I don't know. That was interesting. But anyway, she did. She did. She did tell me that they, she was, once we had kind of hit it off, she was like, wow, like, this is a bummer because, you know, I just feel uncomfortable. I had, she was like, I had never spoken to Susie before, but then Ariel put us in a group chat, you know, Lexi, Susie and Ariel, the guest, all as kind of like a, hey, like, you know, wearing this together type thing.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Exactly. What are you wearing? Let's go. Exactly. And she was like, Susie was so sweet. She offered to like exchange clothes and yada, yada, yada. So Lexi's whole thing was like, man, it's like a bummer. I almost wish that we hadn't had that intro because then I wouldn't feel awkward about this or obligated to talk to her.
Starting point is 00:23:26 You know, there wouldn't be any contention there. So that was kind of the extent of her telling me that, you know, they had only talked one time prior, like very soon before we all left for Paradise. Yeah, and we definitely see that Lexi is struggling with the Susie of it all. Well, we don't see that till after the row ceremony. Well, she's expressing in her interviews, like, you know, is this going to be a thing? Lexi knew that Susie was coming down to Paradise. Did you know that as well? Did you and Susie have a conversation about how you were going to navigate both being there?
Starting point is 00:24:03 What did you know? Yeah, I knew that Susie was going to be there. I mean, we hadn't talked in a long, long time. but we did touch base about, you know, Paradise once, you know, I got the call and I was talking to producers and obviously my biggest anxiety and stressor was like, you know, they were pretty, they were very transparent about like, hey, we reached out to Susie as well. And I'd imagine they did the same with her. So I was appreciative of that. You know, it's not something I would want to be blindsided with. Like, you know, it's already tough enough to do something like this with your ex.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But, you know, we had a conversation. And it was really along the lines of like, hey, let's call it what it. Like, this will be really awkward and tough. And if anything, it's going to be sad. Like, we're not going to be those exes where things get messy and there's any drama or anything like that. Like, there's always been a ton of love and respect between us, no matter what our relationship looks like.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And so I kind of had some comfort in knowing that. And I think I can say the same for her, knowing that it's not in either one of our personalities to, like, step on the other's toes or make them look bad or talk bad about them in interviews or anything like that right so it was really kind of a conversation like hey if we're doing this like let's just be the coolest exes that we can possibly be show each other respect and you know hope for the best for the other person and that's really all we can do you're better off hating each other no i'm telling you dude it's almost easier when it's like i can't stand your guts you know it's serious it's tough yeah because when you have that then you're you know you're also
Starting point is 00:25:37 you have another person's feelings that you are now very aware of of and worried about um okay so then cutting back to lexie now we're on episode two and yeah it's kind of like she's just like i want to pause the breaks i want to i want to put the breaks on this relationship romantically romantically and it's like why did that go down when it went down it seemed like she was kind of well aware of the entire situation yeah as a viewer watching it it looks like she spirals about the Susie stuff before Susie comes down to the point where she's like I can't do this and then Susie comes down she gets that reassurance she needs and then is like no I think I can do this was that how it felt like it played out to you
Starting point is 00:26:31 and was her pumping the brakes a shock to you when it happened um I wouldn't say it was a shock. It definitely caught me about surprise, but it all sort of tracked from things that I was picking up over the course of the prior X-Men of days that I had known her. It was very tough for me to get an accurate read on Lexi for a multitude of reasons. You know, out the gates, I knew that she was very uncomfortable in the environment. I felt uncomfortable being there for other reasons but I know she was very uncomfortable with the cameras you know she was like oh my dad watches this with his co-workers like I don't want to kiss on camera and stuff like that so like fair but also that's tough that's tough on a dating show you know okay I'm gonna you know and in in through it all
Starting point is 00:27:26 I just tried my best to have grace and like be gentle and kind and like help her through it you know and try to be that source of comfort I'm like hey I know this is awkward and uncomfortable and then you throw in the situation with susy which i know that she didn't sign up for right so i just tried to have empathy for her because i understand if roles are reversed and i was interested in someone and their ex was coming and now of a sudden i'm signed up in this potential not even triangle because you know it's not like we're all you know it's not like a dating thing but i know it's not something she necessarily signed up for so i just tried to be as understanding as possible but i was treating it like how
Starting point is 00:28:06 even though we had only known each other for maybe four days at this point, I was trying to be as intentional as possible and treat this like real-life dating instead of like a TV show, which maybe to my detriment, I don't know. But, you know, I tried to do what I could to step in and give her reassurance and show up for her without kind of overstepping or doing too much. And I know, again, you know, because of the heat, you know, I know that she had to like go to her room a lot. but then there's other times where it felt kind of cold where I'm like, is she just not into me or is she looking for other guys? And without that communication, it was hard for me to know. And so eventually I did bring it up,
Starting point is 00:28:44 but I think it was after this conversation. So all those things that I was kind of making note of and like kind of side comments about maybe waiting for other guys to come, they were all kind of adding up where it didn't come out of nowhere to me, but it still caught me by surprise like, all right, like I guess, you know, this is weird,
Starting point is 00:29:01 but I understand where you're coming front. I think the more difficult part of that conversation for me was, you know, I understand the trepidation as it relates to Susie coming in, but to your point, Serena, like, it then became about, well, I know you're in L.A. trying to grow your business, and I'm in Atlanta, and I have no plans of moving from Atlanta. I don't know if we want the same things out of life. And so I was kind of like, hey, your feelings are valid. I get it. But to be fair, we haven't had those conversations. You haven't asked me if I'm open to relocating. You have, haven't asked me, you know, what I want out of, you know, family wise, how many kids, whatever. I was like, I want to have those conversations, but it's hard to build up to those more meaningful conversations when you're really not around much for us to, like, have those small special moments to get more comfortable with each other, you know, and that's where she she did, you know, I give her credit. She was like, hey, like, sorry, like I am spiraling right now, like I'm projecting, you know, I tend to do that, you know, and so she apologized for
Starting point is 00:29:57 and I understood. I'm like, hey, I get it. This is a very high stress environment, but it did kind that part kind of caught me by surprise. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
Starting point is 00:30:19 This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?
Starting point is 00:30:31 That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:57 All right, Wes West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs! And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo. To see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us, And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. Because in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines.
Starting point is 00:31:41 It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp, designed to be hell on earth. Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months.
Starting point is 00:32:38 The first night was so overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hola, it's HoneyGerman. And my podcast, Grasias Come Again, is back. This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music. Music and Entertainment, with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities.
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Starting point is 00:34:00 I'm Jamel Hill. a host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge.
Starting point is 00:34:20 But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually. want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high
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Starting point is 00:34:56 Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. was there was there an option for you to pivot like was there anyone else like would you were you potentially like maybe i'll go see if something's there with alex was there anyone else on the beach yeah i mean so during that conversation as well you know she made a comment where she was like i think that maybe you should talk to other girls you know she's like maybe I want to talk to other guys and I was like hey totally I was like I'm not a psychopath we've known each other for four days like you know what I mean feel free but again it was it was a bit frustrated yeah yeah that conversation that conversation was in there yeah yeah yeah I told her I was
Starting point is 00:35:45 like I was like hey I trust me I was like you can talk to whoever and and in fact like over the course of those past couple days guys were pulling her and having conversations but after every conversation she would come back to me which was reassuring to me and you know new guys would come in or you know Sam came in I was like oh like I could see him taking you on a date and she was like oh dear God please no you know so she would make comments where I'm like oh maybe she's not interested in people I don't know I thought you know I don't know but I told her I was like hey like I know myself I'm generally just not it's not because I'm like latching onto you like I'm generally just
Starting point is 00:36:20 not interested in anyone else here not to say that if new girls came in that I wouldn't explore like I'm being realistic and honest with you but I also I'm not going to just force myself to talk to somebody that I know I'm not going to be interested in. I'm not going to waste my time. Right. And there's nobody here that I see a romantic connection with aside from you. So why even divert my attention and go off? I was like, but that being said, just let me know what you need from me to show you that I'm still interested while also giving you your space to do whatever you want to do. Yeah. I think that's fair. Okay, so Susie's down there. you guys end up having like a heartfelt conversation she tears up a little bit what does that do to your headspace um i mean
Starting point is 00:37:05 it was definitely sad as predicted right like it was on one hand it was great to see a familiar face right you know it was kind of like that best friendship doesn't leave right you know we're no longer romantically involved but it's like we still got our inside jokes it's still it's still me and you right like we know each other so well but again I think we were it was just like a conversation that needed to happen to break the ice and just be like hey we're both here it is what it is this is going to be tough and so you know it was definitely an emotional conversation and I think more so I like was just concerned about her being comfortable I know she like it was super awkward when she came in you know I know we both had high hopes for paradise and at that
Starting point is 00:37:53 point I was like damn like it really feels like she's getting the short end of the stick already like I knew pickings were slim so I'm like well even just the way it doesn't feel fair like the time and way she came in obviously isn't Susie's choice like they sent her in but like even just like coming in at night not coming in like I think like morning with a date card's always a little easier because there's that format of okay I'm going to pull a few people I'm going to take someone like you have that structure where she was kind of sent into just like a free night and I would imagine that is hard to navigate right I'm like everyone's tired like it's raining yeah yeah this is tough how like how many nights did it rain it looked like it was raining on you guys every night the rain is a problem like
Starting point is 00:38:36 every night yeah like we couldn't I mean obviously my date got canceled all the cocktail party at my time like like there wasn't a single night that wasn't affected by the rain yeah even in like the intro credits we see like Like some people are dry and some people are in the rain. Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, it's brutal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. Before we jump to the rose ceremony, can we just quickly touch on you have a conversation with Lexi, what appears to be at the cocktail party kind of close to the rose ceremony timing wise, where she says, like, I know that I wanted to take a step back romantically, but I talk to Susie. We see their conversation. Susie reassures her, like, nothing's. weird it's all good and she then says to you like I'm back in like I want to keep exploring I feel way better where's your head at after that conversation well during the conversation I was like man this sounds great right this is everything I want to hear and then I kind of took a step back and I was like wait a minute I forgot we have the roses tonight so you know once it kind of sank in
Starting point is 00:39:53 I was like, man, okay, this is, you know, and I didn't, I think because of the rain, like I, I, I just didn't have an opportunity to have a follow up conversation with her to, you know, and I didn't, I didn't want to press her or anything like during that conversation because, you know, it all sounded good, but I do remember kind of being like, okay, just 24 hours prior, like you wanted to put a pin in this and it wasn't even just about this. And I was like, I understand that you admittedly, like, spiraled a bit, but it wasn't that it was just about the Susie factor, right? It was all the other things that got thrown out that were cause for concern on her end where I was like, okay, so post this conversation with Susie that I wasn't there, so I don't know what transpired. But, like, post that conversation, now you have no hesitation about us, like geographically relationship, like none of them anymore.
Starting point is 00:40:45 so that that was kind of like a huh yeah yeah moment for me of like how sudden of a 180 it was you know and it'd be different if like I was really feeling like she was also pursuing me and like something was there but the whole time it kind of felt like pulling teeth yeah it get something from her and this was like I mean it's little things right like this was the first time that she threw a leg up on me or like was kind of like physical and touchy with me right and I just like man like this is what I want but where has anything like this been this whole time right you know think if do you think if that if that had been there you wouldn't have done what you did by giving totally rose okay totally totally because it could be painted as like
Starting point is 00:41:35 because susie was going home you felt so bad no matter what your connection in the house was you were no no no no no so I mean it was such a split second decision, but in my brain, I was like, okay, on one hand, there's this person that I've known for four or five days that isn't really giving me any rhythm here. I can't really get a true pulse as to how she feels about me. This person could really flip-flop and play me tomorrow when new guys come in. Aside from that cocktail party conversation, I have no real reason to believe that she really wants to pursue something with me long term. So there's a ton of question marks here and she did just tell me everything that I've been wanting to hear so I could
Starting point is 00:42:19 believe it or I could listen to my intuition that like is a coincidental timing with this rose ceremony so that's on one hand on this other hand I have this person that has been my best friend for an entire year who has continued to be my best friend through dating her for over a year right who I have so much love and admiration and respect for who is one of the most selfless people that I know who I feel like got the short end of the stick and often does in life when she tries to put herself on the back burner and do things for other people. And I have an opportunity to embody one of the most admirable characteristics that I know she has that I strive to have. And I could give her this opportunity to ultimately self-sacrifice and give her a chance at life because I don't think
Starting point is 00:43:04 she got a fair one. You know, Jeremy's the only guy that pulled her. Like I felt so bad. And so I weighed those things out and that's ultimately what led to my decision. I was like, hey, I can help this person out or I can take the risk with these question marks that I have. Right. And there had to have been also that question with Lexi of, okay, if I give my roast Lexi, we both stay, Susie stays too. We're all on this beach together. Is this going to be, you know, a never-ending issue? Like for Lexi. Yeah, exactly. And here's the thing. Like if, and I was willing to see that through. Like had Jeremy given his rose to Susie, you know, obviously I would give my rose to Lexi and pray for the best that, you know, and take her at her word that it would no longer be an issue
Starting point is 00:43:51 and that we could all coexist. But obviously that's not what happened. Yeah. So you make the decision to offer Susie your rose. Um, were you surprised by her reaction? yes that was very surprised yeah you look surprised and she looks surprised and everyone looks surprised yeah yeah i agree i think it was a big surprise to all parties involved and not involved why do you think that she said no to your rose you know initially i had no clue um because I thought that it was clear as day to me, like where my intentions were and what I was trying to do by offering that up. So I was really, really taken it back.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And I remember just, like, I kind of blacked out. Like, I just felt numb after that and just wanted to, like, escape. Like, I just wanted to disappear. It was just such a hard feeling to describe. But, you know, thinking. back on it later that night, you know, my feelings aside, again, just knowing Susie's heart and who she is, I was like, man, because I wasn't able to have a conversation with her beforehand, right? And I wasn't able to like tell her what I wanted to try to do for her. So this, I have to
Starting point is 00:45:24 put myself in her shoes, like, oh, she's probably expecting me to give this rose to Lexi, right? And so if I know Susie, of course, like, here I am trying to do something selfless for someone who is selfless. And what would the selfless thing be for her to do? Not accept the rose because she wouldn't want to step on Lexi's toes. Yeah. Right. She wouldn't want to take a rose from somebody that she feels like deserved it, right? Because she doesn't really know the ins and outs of, you know, I told her a little bit about what my concerns were.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But she doesn't know the ins and outs of, you know, the relationship with myself and Lexi. So when I thought back on, I was like, oh, she probably just doesn't want to step on her toes. So, yeah. Was there any part of that, it doesn't come across this way, but was there any part of that move that was potentially like, hey, maybe we could see if we could rekindle? No, because, I mean, I hadn't thought too, too far ahead, but I knew that the next week guys were coming in. So I'm looking around and I'm like, like, do the math, there's no girls, right? And so I didn't know exactly what I was going to do, but I knew I wasn't going to like total my thumbs for the next two or three days
Starting point is 00:46:36 whenever the next row ceremony was. So I was, like I said, self-sacrifice, I was going to send myself home. I wasn't going to just hang around the beach. Like I was going to get out of there. Yeah. What was it like seeing Lexi at the premiere party for Bachelor in Paradise the other night? Where do you guys stand now? um i mean post show i have tried to reach out to her twice um have not gotten a response back
Starting point is 00:47:03 so there were no there were no words spoken at the premier bar wow okay the silent treatment do you think that she was standing up there expecting you 100% to be giving her the rose totally and you know again like i i feel bad for how that all went down I mean I stand by the choice that I made like I don't have any regrets about it but I do feel bad and I do wish that we could have had a conversation beforehand we just we weren't allowed to right because at that point I really would have been like hey here are my concerns like the conversation that we just had earlier tonight sounds great it's
Starting point is 00:47:47 everything that I've wanted to hear but and I would have pressed a little bit more right but I didn't have the opportunity to do that so nobody saw all coming what I pulled, right? And so, you know, post show there's a lot of things that I knew were confusing to her that she didn't understand. And I wanted to have the opportunity to kind of fill her in or what led up to that decision and kind of tell her, you know, what my concerns were. And I had also heard some things post show that confirmed my intuition and some suspicions that I had. And so I kind of wanted to just put it out to like, hey, this is what I was feeling during the show. This is also what I've heard. These are all the things that look.
Starting point is 00:48:24 led me to the decision that I made and just, you know, have that dialogue, but, you know, I totally understand not wanting to have that conversation, I guess. Like, I respect that from her. But I tried. I think, like, if she would have pulled you to have that conversation at breakfast and you you guys end up having a great day together and then you give the rose to Susie, I'd be like, okay that's that you didn't have to do that at the cocktail party before the rose ceremony you have that conversation for like the first time it's kind of like yeah it's it would be very hard for
Starting point is 00:49:06 me to not think like do you do you just want the rose right and that's what I'm saying like you know all day I'm you know I'm looking for something and you know I don't remember if it was that day or the day prior but you know as I said earlier I was doing all the little things to try to really pursue this person as I would in the real world, right? Like I know she has a lot of dietary restrictions and so I would run around the resort and, you know, talk to the people taking orders and try to make sure her stuff was like gluten-free. And when she was having health issues, you know, I would try to step in where I could without overstepping.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Like, can I get you anything? Should we go in the pool so it's a little bit cooler on your body? Like all these little things. And, you know, eventually I was like, okay, let me take a step back because I don't want to be doing too much here if I don't feel it being reciprocated. in the slightest. So I kind of remember taking a step back to see how she would kind of maneuver throughout, you know, the cast or whatever. And that's the least we talked. That day was like the least we had talked the entire time. So I'm like, all right. You know, and Joe, to your point,
Starting point is 00:50:08 it's like, if we had had that conversation earlier in the day and then the rest of the day, I'm like, okay, so I believe this, you know, we're making strides here. Then I'm sure I would have made a different decision. But at the 11th hour, it's really hard to buy it and like go. all in on this person when someone else is sitting across for me that, you know, I really still care about, but I'm like, hey, get a fair shot at this, you know, I was able to, you know, I was able to come into paradise without having you there and, you know, try to pursue somebody and, like, that's an opportunity that I wanted for her. Yeah. Yeah. And like, it's not, like, it's really not working out for you. So why not give it to somebody that you actually cared about?
Starting point is 00:50:47 Right. Exactly. It was wild. You are such a comedic. lighthearted like vibrant person to see you on this season from what we've seen so far like we really are seeing a more serious side of you because you were just put in a much more serious situation yeah trust me I'd love to be having more fun I'd love to be cracking jokes Justin we really appreciate you coming on I love talking to you and wish you nothing but the best appreciate you guys thanks for having me of course and to our listeners make sure you download and subscribe to Bachelor Happy Hour. We will have new and exclusive interviews every single week, so keep tuning in to
Starting point is 00:51:28 About Storm Paradise, and don't forget to subscribe. Thanks for listening. Bye. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
Starting point is 00:51:47 This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:52:12 You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you're giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop out boys, snatching up. family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein, we had to reach out to the homie, Jamel Hill, because she's going to keep it a century. The American public is used to being entertained.
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Starting point is 00:54:08 What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast.

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