Bachelor Happy Hour - Kat Izzo's Paradise Comeback!

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Today on Happy Hour, we're sitting down with the Paradise alum Kat Izzo! Kat is returning to the beach and we have lots to discuss with her! We kick off today's episode getting into how the decision to run back Paradise came to be. She then gets into the details of her last journey and the fallout from her former engagement. What really happened between her and John Henry? Then, we dish on this brand new season and how she prepared for her journey. She tells us her thoughts on the cast, what she was looking for, and so much more; will she be getting engaged again this summer?! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to Badger Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. We are here today with Kat Izzo from Zach's season. The Bachelor. Bachelor in Paradise. Season nine. Is that right?

Yeah, I think it was in nine. And you just got released. Well, the cast got released and you're part of the cast of the new up and coming season of Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, season 10. Back to back seasons, eh? Because I guess they took the year off. I didn't even think about that. You are technically going to be on back to back seasons.

Technically on back to back seasons. So I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having you guys. Of course. What? Why did you, why did you do it? Why? Why?

Why did you do this to yourself, Kat? You know, I just really needed to have some emotional aggression on TV again. It just sounded, you know, appealing. Solutions powerful. But no, I really, when they asked me to do it, I was obviously hesitant because it's not been the best experiences, you know, first couple rounds. But I've grown a lot over last two. years. It sounded like it was going to be a very different experience than previous ones. And

I think when I thought about it, if I were to have said no, you know, and just you can't say no to things, you know, you have to at least try it out and see what happens and see what comes out of it. And I was going in with a very different mentality than I think prior. So I just wanted to see what was going to come from it. Okay. Let's do a little bit of a catch up because I do remember like you for the most part from what i remember you kind of carried the season um the last paradise you were bringing you were bringing the entertainment for sure yeah that was that definitely the case yeah at the end of that paradise you get engaged to john henry which is a which was kind of out of left field like it seemed like you guys you got together near the end you got

engaged after the show you call the engagement off what have you been doing since then have you been dating i think you were in a relationship prior to this correct yeah so me and john henry broke up pretty close to when it was done airing so that was um i want to say like around december end of november of 2023 so um i always had plans to move to san diego once i finished my MP boards. That's what I was kind of studying for during airing. So we broke up. I passed my MP boards and I moved to California two days later. And then kind of just like got settled in San Diego, took a really long break when it came to keeping up with a show. I just kind of wanted to focus on myself and like start my career out here and meet new friends. I did get into a relationship

around six months after that. And then that also ended six months after that. So literally like back to back year, my, I had a relationship end on like the same week. That's wild. You don't like the holidays because literally was one that they both happened. Um, but it's been really, um, amazing, like moving to California, the people here are incredible. I love my job. I've been working as a nurse practitioner now for about a year and a half working in my dream field of aesthetics and, um, kind of just been like living my, my best life, if you can say. It's definitely, come with some ups and downs, but overall, it's been a pretty good year and a half since I've

been here. Yeah, because I remember you were studying for your MP boards when you came on last time, which was kind of right before Paradise ended, I think. Did you write those before or after the breakup? Did I take them? Yeah. I took it. I had to push back the testing date because my mental health was so compromised. So I ended up taking it in Florida, like right after the breakup. Okay. And that's a big pocket of life for you emotionally. Oh, everything. Yeah, everything. It was a lot. But it was kind of like a way to be like, you're not going to, like nothing is going to bring me down. Like I'm still going to keep doing what I was put on assert to do. So yeah, it's been great. Can you all in feel free to say no if you don't want to talk about any of these things. But why did you

John Henry breakup? You know, nothing like serious that happened. I think through the airing of the show we started to learn more about how we each, I think,

handle conflict and adversity. And we just were not going to I mean, it wasn't my choice but it ultimately ended up being something probably for the best. It was under the umbrella. of incompatibility, but we didn't really have, like, any major, like, fights or anything

like that. I just think it just got too much, and he wanted to go into a different career path than originally we both thought he would want to do, which ultimately led him to Hawaii. And it just happened at a really, like, hard time emotionally with everything else that was going on, but overall, it just, we're not, we're two good people, but we're definitely not each other's people. And I think moments like how the show aired and how everything went down with our relationship really shows us what you can handle and if you're going to be compatible long term. When you guys got engaged, did you, was there, was there a part of you that was like,

oh, I don't know. I don't know. No. So you believe. No, yeah, I believe all. I will believe everything. No, I literally was like, this is my person. Now looking back, I'm like, I don't think so, but I was like a very different part. Like I think that I just was such like a like I wanted a relationship so badly. I saw that for myself and like I was willing to believe anything even though there was signs in front me that was saying this is not going to make sense. And I think it took something as extreme as that for me to like really sit back and evaluate like how I see people and see the world and now I tread a little bit lighter.

But yeah, no, I fully believed that we were like. Destined. Yeah. I'm going to marry this man. This is my husband. 100%. Wow. Okay, that's good.

Watching it back and seeing what he was saying, I didn't know if you said any of that. He didn't tell me that. So I was like, he just broke up with me and you already had doubts. Like, I should have known. Yeah. Well, it was wild. That's good information for the upcoming season of Paradise. Your past relationship, the one that was six months,

and end it. Can you tell us why that ended it? How did you need even? We just met through mutual friends. It was one of those relationships that I think is going to probably help me learn the most about myself that I've ever experienced. I have nothing negative to say about it. It had its ups and downs.

It just, you know, again, I don't think that we were in the place of each other's lives so it was going to be sustainable. But it was not the healthiest. I think you could agree. I think we just triggered a lot of each other's wounds, but in that, you learn about yourself in your 20s. That's what it's about. So I used that to really be like a catalyst into some deep therapies.

That was really helpful. You seem to have done a lot of work on yourself. I know you've referenced therapy a few times. What specifically is that work? Like what have you been focusing on? And what do you hope to do differently going into Paradise this time? I think just being curious and, like, truly, like, doing an internal assessment of your triggers, who you are, and, like, things are going to come up that you're not going to like, but not using that to, like, not deter you from keep learning more. And just showing up in the world with a little bit more awareness and, like, compassion and self-love.

I really did, like, deep therapy with EMDR recently in last six months. And that's been the most beneficial. It's, you know, supposed to help. with all my things and it really has helped a lot but I think just learning how to like ground myself in moments of my stress being less reactive because ultimately that's I think was just my default state and learning to like take that pause and that's I think we're really helped in talking through and understanding yourself. Are you do you have any who do you hang out with and say you're in San Diego? Do you have any like bachelor friends or anything like that? I'm still friends with Kylie, see here pretty often. Some of the other girls we grew apart, but still like see each other and like do different things. It's just San Diego is like such a community-based

area. Everybody like becomes friends so easily and people here are really welcoming. So I have such amazing friends here. I actually like met Jess Edwards, like a month before I, we went on Paradise together and we really kind of have the same beautiful friends. And so she's been one of my good friends and a good friend throughout. So it's been, it's pretty much like everybody that's like in the wellness, like space, I would say kind of all hang out in their same spot.

Do you think you'll stay there? For now. Yeah, for sure. It's a really good, I would say, place for where I was at when it came to career. And then I just love the community aspect of it. Everyone's very welcoming. I mean, it's still California.

So there's still like fake energy, but the real ones stick together. Nice. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and there's the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West,

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on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, so you are how your relationship ends. Yeah. And you get a phone call for Paradise. What's the timeline from the relationship ending to the phone call of, hey, would you be interested in coming on Paradise? I don't remember when they called me. It was this year.

I mean, at first I was like, I'm not going on Paradise. Me and my most relationship, we broke up around November, kind of lived in limbo until maybe like January. February I can't remember sometimes it was it's all blur but um they called me I want to say like around March or April I can't remember somewhere around like springtime but I was like I needed a lot of convincing like I didn't I was not just like yeah I'll do it like I needed them to like really make me feel comfortable about putting myself back in that environment um and it was definitely something that I decided to do very last minute because I was still every time I say yes I'd be like no I can't

that again. Like, I'm scared. So what was it? What was the deal breaker? I think I really was just like, if I say no and regret it, like, I'll, it's not something I want to, like, regret. But like, what if there was someone there actually that I could meet or an experience that could be helpful for me to understand myself again? You know, it's just, it's not something you really say no to, but it was mostly convincing me with the air conditioning. I was like, you have to promise that there is air conditioning. Otherwise, I'm not going. Like, I'm not doing it.

And every time I ask, I was not how I started the conversation. And you got what you wish for. They lived up for it. You know, like, you know, I didn't know what it was true or not.

But I also said, I have the ability to literally, like, it's not what I want. I can just leave. Like, I don't have to stay. And I was going in knowing,

literally no one, knowing nothing about the shows. I haven't been watching. So, like, it was just a completely different mindset versus like knowing every single thing about every guy on the, Paradise last time and being friends with the girls. So I wanted to kind of just like see how that

was going to play out. What did your friends and family say when you were like, I think I'm going to go back on Paradise this year? Some of them were like absolutely not. Please don't because we can't handle that again. But some were like, you should just go for it and you have a lot more like you're different person and I think you'd handle it differently and why would you say no to something like that but yeah i immediately texted my little group chat and i was like help sOS i don't know what was your biggest fear going back on my biggest fear so many um well i just learned that people are very different outside of the show and i think i was mostly just like scared who's going to get wrapped up in it again and then end up leaving getting hurt when i came off it um you know

I knew there was bugs, so I can't be afraid of that. But it was mostly just like the trusting someone again, and it be to my detriment and making sure that I don't get wrapped up in it, all the things and just making sure I can, like, stay grounded. It's definitely one of those things where once you're like, once you're in this world and you are single, it really is like, it's hard to say no because it's just like. yeah it's it's just easier to say yes you know it's it's one of those things where it's like you don't i agree with you

yeah and that's probably why i've always said yes as well it's just like i don't want to live with the regret you're probably i'm more likely going to regret not doing this than doing it when it comes down to it yeah it's just i think i was so scared that you know i you're putting yourself out there to be analyzed criticized picks apart just like overall judged like that was really really hard in my mental health and it was hard to feel my character be misunderstood so I think I just like didn't know if I was like willing to like I'm very happy with where I'm at in life and I didn't know if I wanted to kind of like you know uproot yeah you know put that under a microscope again and be subject to judge yeah do you have a plan going into this season of how you'll handle being judged negatively by people because I agree with me it's not easy it's not I think also I understand it more like the first time around I didn't understand the way that public response is or how people like like it's just like I didn't know

that this was something that people face to this extent and not taking it so personally keeping your people close and knowing that that's what matters. I have a really good support team and system in place. So, and I just don't care. Like, I don't, I don't feel the desire to look at it or see it and use that to determine my work the way I think I did before because I was just so like, what's happening. Yeah. And it goes away. I mean, it does grow away. Now I know that it is temporary. Like, at the time you feel like it's never going to end and this is something you're going to deal with the rest of your life. But now that I know that it comes in waves, you can handle a weight. I can handle any weight. You're the first, you're the first, um, contestant. You're the first contestant

that we are interviewing that's been on Paradise before. Okay. Living, living conditions. Oh, my gosh. What's like much better? Because I've heard we're hearing much better. Oh, my God. Like, it, it, Incredible. Like, actually completely different. Yeah, I'm not sure how much I can share, but it was, it is nothing like previous paradise. Absolutely not. Like, it's, it really just shows like how much your mental health can be like so much

better when you can do your hair and your makeup, not inhumanity. It really makes the difference. Like, or just to be able to have somewhere to escape to, like, take a breath and like, pull down. It was so much better. you had just a bed to sleep in that you didn't have to step outside your bed and there's sand on the ground or you shower and you feel clean like truly it was like little things like that like you actually can like feel clean and refreshed and then you just feel more like your better self like I didn't shower without I show like three times today just to cool off and then you would step outside the shower and there's sand like on the floor yeah you know yeah we just saw I just saw a clip we just saw a clip of each other and I was like my face is so fucking oily it looks like It looks like I haven't seen a shower. Like I got engaged.

I wasn't even matching. Like nothing matched. Like I was like I, we, the mirrors, you couldn't even really see yourself because they were always fogged. There was no mirrors. I used like the small compact like thing in my like eye shadow palette like to see and like just sitting there trying not to like I didn't do my hair on previous paradise. I couldn't do my makeup.

Like it was. No, you just had to give up. You just had to give up. Yeah, you just live life like that. I'm like, I need to actually take it second to take care of myself this time because last time people stopped me on TV, I was like, oh, crap. Well, you also probably just feel sexier, too, to, like, go out and flirt with boys when you're like, I feel cute and I feel good, yeah.

Yes, you could self-tan and not start sweating off. Like, I was, like, actually able to do my self-tan routine. Like, it was amazing. It was so much better. It was, like, during the wedding episode of Maureen kind of getting married, like, I had self-tanner sitting, like, on me. like fresh because i'm like i'm pale right now and i can't do anything about it and it was almost too hot to lay in the sun like i don't i don't really get that tan on paradise because i don't

like yeah no i don't wait it's not ever but i wouldn't be able to because it's just too hot but also the weather in cost rica was different like i think because it rained more that there was so much more of a cool breeze than like ours and we had no rain so it was like just constantly like hot and humid the entire time like there was no breeze So here's like a consistent breeze. And I kind of love when it rained because then we could go inside and pull out. You're an inside girl. You really are.

I'm an outside girl in the right conditions. Like I'm outside all the time in San Diego because it's like 67 right now. Nice. But San Diego is like the best weather. It's so great. Yeah. The summer here is unreal. But yeah, no.

Anywhere else. Yeah, I'm inside. I prefer the indoors. No more you be. We see that the cast is obviously dropped. We know, you know, we don't know who's coming. but we know who's down there day one was there anyone that you were nervous or excited to see i didn't know anybody like going in i didn't know who was going i didn't know who could potentially be

there so i guess i was just nervous because like i didn't know what to expect but there wasn't i really didn't know anyone that was going to be there or when they would be there anything but when you saw them did you know who they like some of them were like that first day like did you i knew who jonathan was because i've seen him in san diego didn't know jeremy didn't Spencer, like, I had no idea these people were. How about the Golden's? Did you have any clue who any of them would be? So

weirdly enough, the weekend before was stagecoach. I, like, finished stagecoach and got on a plane. I met Keith in the middle of T. Payne, like, front row. Like, watching the pain. I was like, wait, what? And then he's like, I'm going too. And I was like, wait, this is so funny.

You're so cool. And, like, I can't wait to be on the beach with you. That's hilarious. We love Keith. But that's it. didn't know anyone else were you more excited about that or were you kind of like oh i wish i had like one girl here that i could well i did i had jess i had jess edwards but other i mean honestly no i think it really ended up affecting how we all moved in paradise like having you know that like underlying friendship and like knowing what everyone was who they wanted because then nobody wanted

to like act for themselves in a way so i loved that every friendship was going to start off fresh and I can pretty much become friends to anybody, especially girly. So I figured everyone was going to be someone I became friends with in the moment. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor

and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys,

hopping out the van, snatching up your Theo and them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs. And of course, the Epstein. of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. The American public is

used to being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs

that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get to.

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And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcast. What? You got something?

I was going to say, you got something? Yeah, I got something. All right. Well, I got something too, so.

All right. In terms of a relationship, what were you looking for? God damn it. That was literally, that was where I was, I was going to say qualities. You're looking for it,

okay. Okay. Wow. Wow. Same same same. Same. Same. Same.

Graveling. I was like really just looking for an adult, somebody that was like, Keith. Listen, they might not be of age, but you don't know. They could still just be band children. That's true. I really just wanted somebody that has lived enough life, I think, to be able to be like a good supportive partner and like take life seriously with me. Someone I could like trust was going to be there for me through the ups and downs and mostly just qualities of compassion and kindness to everybody and like truly like authentic like who they are is who they say they are there's no like people pleasing there's no like i want to be this way to be that way like just be yourself and have fun obviously somebody that can laugh with me but mostly somebody that

at least was like above the age of 30 because usually they're testosterone's down a little bit so they're a little tired um yeah that's true yeah that's true that's yeah testosterone starts yeah i need someone to be a little tired not want to like go out every weekend like take you know just has their priorities intact and nothing to say like i'm not like throwing shade it's just like i think i've learned through my relationships that i that's where i'm at like that's how i value my life and my priorities and it's so much better when your person matches that because then you're not like conflicting with each other and how you want to do life together spend your Saturday yeah right so I really just wanted that and then someone that thinks I'm funny that's about it was there anyone that you were

worried about potentially being there that you were like I really hope I don't see this person on the beach guys anyway like like did you yeah who were you who were you beefing with on your on your season of paradise I think it just well Olivia didn't really wasn't very oh So I just like I didn't want anything or anyone that was there to create something like I guess just like chaos and drama because when that happens, it really takes away from building a relationship with like your potential partner. So I just didn't want anyone that could potentially do that. I don't know if that would have been her M.O. But there's still that worry if any of that. I called John Henry the moment I got my call.

So I was like, are you going to be on this beach with me? I need to know. Yeah. And he told me he couldn't because of work and stuff. And we caught up. So we're in a good place. But even if he was, it would have been fine. I was like, you should.

Like this, you know, whatever. We'll say. But, yeah. No, I don't. I think that I have a little bit more confidence in how I handle things now where I could weather a lot more than I could. Yeah. Going into this season, did you have any like, like I know you said you feel like you're going to handle things a lot differently this time. Did you have like any grounding techniques

or specific things that you were like bringing in with you in your therapy box? I meditate. I meditate personally. I was journaling every day. I did not do that last time. Just to, you know, you can get lost track of time. Days blend into each other. and just like keeping it every day like I had to like go back and read where my thoughts are at I checked in with the therapist like almost every three days while on set just to ground myself talk about how I'm feeling make sure that everything seems like okay some EFT tapping on like your spots whenever you're feeling stress like you hit that and it like supposed to calm down your nervous system um beta blockers are really great I was

taking that a few times um just like you know I don't know. I just, but also like not taking it too seriously, like just having fun and like understanding that this is, it's, I took it so seriously before. And I think just like the new mindset can be new wonders for what can happen. Were you open to an engagement this time or were you more just like I'm going to take my time see where this goes and I kind of want to just like leave in a relationship? I did not go in saying I was going to leave engaged that I didn't I definitely was not going and saying I was going to be engaged in any capacity well I will say like my my second time around I was more prepared to have the the right conversations with serena as far as just like how how actually do we see this working after this? point that is a good point and did you did you do that like are you were you open to are you open to moving if that's

the case if i am i open to what like if you meet someone are you open to potentially moving like oh yeah i was asking i knew way more about or i yeah i went in with a lot more awareness on like what i needed to ask and things i needed to like assess and how i needed to see how people handled situations than I did in the past just from but you can only really do that if you've already lived it and so that's pretty much how I approached it so it wasn't just like blindly like oh you're cute and like you're funny and like this is going to be great we'll see what happens like no it was very very like thought out without giving too much away obviously how do you feel like this experience on bathroom paradise for you was different from your first experience

I mean, a laundry list. There's like, oh, from the environment, from the people, from like how I showed up, from just every, like the beach, the creative, like the, it was just fun. Like it was, I had a lot of good, I had a really good time, I would say. We don't want to give everything away. We definitely came still with ups and downs. Like it's still, you know, an environment where you're putting yourself out there to potentially be heard. like you don't know how it's going to end but that's with everything that's with life so

I just approached it from that perspective but it was just so much more light and I who knows though I'm delusional like I think I said that I could see you're freaking out already you're freaking out already you're freaking out already you like you know what I'm freaking out because I'm saying it's positive and like I did that before and it was not so scared of my that's fair I get that you don't wanted to air and then be like, wait, this is what went down. This is how it came across. You know what? I'd rather live life through rose-colored glasses.

I don't care. I love being delusional. It's gotten me very far. I think it's going to go, I mean, if I were to guess, I think it's going to go good for you. But, like, then again, like, I've been wrong. So I don't know for sure. It's, it's, it all comes down to, like, how it's, I mean, I think I also, like, was not, I remember so much of it.

maybe just because I was journaling as often as I was, but like before, I remember like how it wasn't just like Boston the sauce. I think I was very like, I know what's going on present. How was having the golden film there? Oh, it was so fun. It was a great, great choice. Like, good job producers. It's like, it was incredible. They were, they just like, when I guess when you're at that age, you just don't care. So it was like, they're not worried about Instagram followers or how they're like going to look or their brand. Like they're just actually like, so authentic and who they are. And they gave us a lot of insight to just like life. And I got to learn about so many of their different stories and things that they've experienced. And I feel like

that put into perspective like where we're all at now and kind of just take things a little less like intensely. But they were just so fun. They were hilarious. They did not care. They had a great time. They made us loosen up actually. How was how was having Hannah Brown there? It was really fun too she was like kind of like a girly um she was there mostly during rose ceremony nights and stuff and just kind of someone to like tell the tea to and see how she um experienced stuff it was also for me like she's lived a lot of she's done the show in different ways and been part of it so i felt like i could connect with her in that way and understand like if i'm having a if i'm on the verge of having a crash out like you know is this valid i'm done to be brought back down to earth and she's there

for that if after watching this current season what do you want the viewers to learn about who you are as a person oh i don't know that's scary um i guess just like that i am human like we're just i'm a very like normal girl living a very normal life um and you can also see where like whatever happens in your life like stages and seasons does not have to define you in any capacity like you have that taught me to change how you go through life and I think that that's going to be shown and that's also just something I've kind of done my entire life so maybe just that and like that I'm just like a normal girlie and like live more delusional it's a lot easier that way this is true be yourself like stop like just I'm I'm accidentally authentic to a

and nobody should ever be ashamed of that, like, own it. If you could tease this upcoming season of Paradise in a few words. Oh, gosh. What would you do? What would you say? Oh, it is different, fun, and more aesthetically pleasing, I would say for sure. yeah it looks that way yeah the teasers are looking really good it's much more aesthetically even like the headshot yeah everything everything is elevated and i'm actually not okay for that part

jo's jealous see i knew there was going to be someone that like wanted us to still look like like little rap on the beach like they're like a whole paradise like of them like dying and like no no this was really good never to go back no i'm excited to see it yeah Well, Kat, we are really looking forward to watching you on this upcoming season of Paradise. We wish you the best. I'm sure we'll hear from you again. Thank you so much for hopping on. Thank you.

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