Bachelor Happy Hour - Kathy Dishes on Her Dating Life | Golden Hour

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back to spill a whole lot of tea! We kick things off by getting into some Bachelor Nation news: A certain someone is engaged, and Kathy totally called it! Then, Kathy gives us a deep dive into her recent dating life. She details the dates she’s gone on, shares what the dating pool has to offer, and gets candid about her recent run-in with a disappointing connection. Plus, we’re answering more of your questions — can you get upset at your in-laws for taking over wedding planning if they’re the ones paying? Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast as I break it all down. The matches that matter, the drama that doesn't, and the stories everyone's talking about. No cliches, no sugar-coding, just host analysts from someone who's actually been there. Coco looking real good. Her serve looks so much smoother than it has in the past. I was really happy to see Eager back to what she looked like a couple of years ago when she was winning dominantly. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to Golden Hour. I'm Susan. And I'm Kathy. How are you doing? Pretty good. Pretty good, Kath. I hate that it's the middle of August. Well, it's, you know, they called the dog days for a reason. It's literally 105 here today. We had a 20-day streak of over 100, and then we had one day when it was 99. And like for the next 10 days, it's supposed to be over 100 degrees. I can't handle it.

God. I'm just, I'm over it. Well, the good news is we're going to California soon, so. You know what? I hope I'm freezing there. I want to be cold. Actually, I'm not kidding. I packed sweatsuits. I've never been so excited. for a sweater in my life. All right, well, listen, we have had a big week in Bachelor Nation News. We've got to get right into it because there's so much to talk about it. The first one is that Juliana Pascarosa is officially engaged to Michael Fiori. I have so much to say about this.

I mean, too, because when we had that her on that podcast, we knew, Kathy, we knew. And then she posted something. Remember, I called you? And she had posted a carousel. And I saw the ring. And I said, oh, Juliana, you're slipping there. but I love, let me just say, first of all, they got engaged in Falmouth, Massachusetts, which I used to spend summers there with my best friend from high school.

I've been to the place where they, the nature preserve where they got engaged, so I feel like I was there for her engagement. But I love Susan. He put purple flowers down, which was her Nana, whose real name was Olympia. Nana is, I guess, Italian or something for grandmother. Yes, Nana. But her Nana's name is Olympia. And those purple flowers were her favorite flowers.

And he thought of everything. Had the family there for a party afterwards. And you know, she found love, but it wasn't the right one on the show. And isn't it great to see these stories right afterwards, and they do find real love? It is thrilling. It's amazing that they found love. I also thought it was amazing that Michael said. said to her from the moment we, the quote was from the moment we met in 2025, there was something

so special about her and that it, and I want you to hear this, Susan, this part, it grew into love. It didn't start out as well. When it's real, it's real. And with that being said, we're so happy for you, Juliana. Yeah, I'm going to have them both on afterwards, right? Yep. Beautiful ring, Juliana. Yes.

Congratulations. And I hope you're enjoying the fabulous cool weather on Cape Cod. Absolutely. Okay, what else we got up? Let's talk about Chuck Chapel. He had his prostate removed and it said in a cancer scare, but it was cancer. Yeah, I believe. And that's a big surgery. Yeah, yeah.

And he's very brave. I think he's doing well. He was just out with all the guys in Chicago. Yeah. I don't think he was as energetic as he usually is because he just had that surgery. But they say they got everything and we've been praying for him. Prostate cancer is one of those things. He said in his video about his PSA number going up very dramatically.

And I don't, you know, obviously you and I don't have those body parts, so we don't know. But I think the higher, the number, you know, the worst, the can't, they just got to get it out. There's no, there's no treatment for that. You got to get it out. And so. Because it's a more common thing. Like they'd say everybody will get it if you live long enough. Men, yeah, men.

Not everybody, just men. Not everybody meaning men. But I love his son. was his son who when he was talking about it and I think before the numbers went high he was thinking about some different treatment and not taking the prostate out because

you know prostate when you have to take out your prostate some numbers some percentage of men have sexual dysfunction and and sometimes I read that it could take up to a year or two to come back yeah so obviously that was a big decision for him but he talked about how much

time his son said do you want to have time with your grandkids how much time do you want to have? And I love that because doesn't that put it all into perspective? It certainly does. It certainly doesn't. Chuck, we're rooting for you, praying for you. Yeah, we're glad that you came to the surgery well. Yes, exactly.

Okay. Our last one, Ashley Iacanetti discusses gender disappointment and why she's, quote, wonderfully content as a boy mom. Okay. First of all. Is that a thing, though? People actually get upset because they're not having their girl? Well, boy moms are great. Well, first of all, I had two boys, and I didn't care that I had boys, but I wanted a girl.

And it's funny because Ashley was saying, of course, we all want a healthy baby first. I agree with you, Ashley, on that. But she said when women grow up, they want a daughter to shop with and dress and watch romances with. And you know what I thought when I read that, Susan, you'll laugh. I thought my daughter, I don't know where she got the jeans because she's, She loves to shop. She buys clothes for me. It's exactly the opposite.

She should be my daughter. I have a daughter because she can dress me. But she said that she doesn't any longer feel the need to have a girl. Here is my question. I had two boys and then a girl. And I love my two sons. And my daughter, you know, I only have one. She's just perfect in my eyes.

You had two, your daughter first. And then your twin boys. Right. Okay. And so my question to you is, do you, she said she doesn't feel the need to try for a girl. Like, I wanted another child. But you lucked out having a girl third time. Some people don't.

Right. Well, I actually wanted to go for a fourth. And my husband said if I could underwrite a girl, another girl, he would go for it. And I thought, you know what, he's right? Because I didn't want another child. I wanted another girl. I wanted two boys and two girls. And I didn't do it, but I'm, but here's my last question.

Well, Ashley loves her little boys and they're just smothering her with love. Right now. But I'm going to say to you, my boys have grown up. I mean, actually, I hope your boys always love you as much. My boys were my apple, my eye when they were young. I could do no wrong. They love me. But when they get older, they find wives.

And when they find wives, you don't get to see your boys. Unless you're really close. with the wife. Like my one son Christopher that's married, Jess and I are like super tight. Like Chris gets jealous because I'll do things with Jess. Yeah. Well, no, I love my daughter-in-law.

I love her. But I'm just saying my son spends a lot more time with her and her family than he does. So, Ashley, I hope your little boys grow up to need you and be the sweet little angels that they are now forever and a day. Well, Kathy,

last week, as you might remember real well, we talked about what's happening in my dating life. Yeah. And so this week, we want to catch up with Kathy about hers. I don't think it'll be as emotional. Thank goodness. I don't think I can handle that two weeks in a row. I'm happy to talk and I know you're going to pepper me with questions, but I am hoping that so many, people listened to our podcast last week, and we appreciate all that. I hope, and they were so

kind to you, Susan. Thank you all for being so kind to my good friend. And I hope there is kind to me. Those DMs were beautiful sharing with me. I hope they're going to be as kind to me because, you know, my day. Well, why wouldn't they be? First and foremost, what has dating look like in this last year? At least you got back out there. I think you've had a few. I've, mostly in the last, I would say, since February. I've had, so I dated, prior to that, really I hadn't dated. And am I correct in saying you didn't only do something online? People have introduced you to people.

So you had a little bit of both. A little bit of both. None of it has been very successful. One, I think I mentioned before, we did it for a couple of months. I thought he was great. And then he had a family issue come up that when I tell you he could not focus, his whole demeanor, his whole personality changed. And I just saw that as a red flag that I just couldn't go down.

I met a great guy, met him actually through Facebook. And he lives like a mile, not even a mile from me, which is, you know, interesting. interesting. Super nice guy. We had great conversations and I he just would go five or six days and then we had another date and we had an even better second date than first date. And then, you know, another nine days go by and he says, hey, how are you doing? And I'm just, you know me, Susan, I'm a pragmatist. I deal a lot in reality. And my feeling is if this is what it is at the beginning, he's not that interested as the movie is. He's just not. not that into you, Kathy. And I have to accept that. What do you hope for going on like the first date? What is what's in your head? Well, I wanted to be easy conversation. You know, I don't ask for, I don't ask him to see his checkbook or, you know, anything like that. I don't. What do you think? Could he be a boyfriend? Like, I'm hoping I like this guy that maybe we could. Well, I told you before, for me in the very beginning, when I first meet someone, I look at them and I,

I have a feeling like, could I go to bed with them? Is he interesting enough? Are you attracted to them physically? Am I physically attracted? And then as the date goes on, I know pretty quickly whether we share enough interest, life goals, all the things that we talked about with you last week. And if I don't see it, then I, you know, I bail. So I've had a couple of guys that I thought were promising.

had a couple of dates with very wealthy men. I didn't know they were wealthy until my friend set me up with them. And honestly, Susan, boring. All they did, one in particular, all he did was talking about is playing and his money and his ranches. And, you know, the old thing of not asking me any questions about myself. Very important. So that's, so it's been, you know, it's been tough. I will say I kept this a surprise for you. I have done one new thing.

I was approached by a matchmaking company. They wanted me and a couple of the other golden women to go, you know,

to go on their site. And here's what they wanted. They wanted me to pay to go on their site. And, but, and they wanted me to talk up their company.

Well, first of all, I don't pay for dates and I you know me I will not do a brand deal I will not sell something that I haven't used and it's not successful. So I declined that that because they were more interested in the money than they were in actually finding me someone. But then as luck would have it, yeah, they just wanted to sell their service and I'm just not doing that because I'm I take my word seriously. but I was getting my nails done and I met this beautiful woman and she's engaged and we were talking

and she met her guy through a matchmaker and I just couldn't believe it because two matchmakers in 10 days long story short I called the woman we had a great chat the first thing I said to her was look I don't pay for dates and as soon as I said it she goes of course you don't women should never pay for dates

all my clients the males pay for the service so I was like I mean maybe I need that number I'm gonna I I listen I already got you on the list so we did an interview she asked me all kinds of things my hobbies age range all these things and I am hopeful that she you know she asked me would I relocate I'm the one girl that will relocate um she asked me questions about my hobbies she sounded very positive that she would be able to find someone for me to date, a meaningful

date. And she explained, Susan, that many men want to date, but they don't want to be swiping left and right and having these meaningless conversations. And she said, I do all that for them. So when I present you to him, he's going to see what you look like. He's going to know what your hobbies are. I already know.

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Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kathy, let me ask you, like, when you go on a first date, is there anything specific that someone does that has gone well and you'd like to see him again? What is it that would make you want to see somebody again? Well, that's really interesting.

If I feel some chemistry, if I feel an attraction, that's one thing. If he holds the door, if he has manners, if he asks me questions about myself, because, and you know this about me, Susan, even though I'm a big talker, When I go on a date, I actually don't do that. I try to make them feel comfortable and see. You try not to ask them 50 questions. Well, no, I ask them questions, but sort of open-ended questions and just let them talk. And the guy that will turn around and say, you know, I've talked a lot about myself. Tell me about you.

And he's aware of it. Yes. And he's aware. He's getting a second date. A guy that takes a time, you know, to open the door for me, to dress like. He doesn't have to be in a suit and tie, God forbid, but a guy that took some time to present himself in a way that, you know, makes, it's not that complicated for me.

And for you, what would be a bad date? And have you had one recently? Okay, so the... Let's spill. Oh, God. Susan knows that I knew you were going to ask me. So I, a friend of mine who lives in Pittsburgh, invited me to come visit her and she said she had this guy that she wanted to introduce me to.

And we're very good friends and I fly to see her and she flies to see me. So I went, met the guy, was attracted right away. We had a drink. We chatted. His wife had died of cancer. I don't remember maybe eight months prior, but she had fought cancer many years. And he clearly, you could tell he was ready to date. So we had a great time.

We went to a party that my friends were throwing, and then he asked me to come back in like two weeks to go to a football game and this crawfish boy. Like he had a weekend of events. And so he offered to fly me, and I said, no, no, I wanted to come back. And I said, I'm going to stay with my, he wanted me to stay with him. And I said, no, I'm going to stay with my friends. And so it was like probably three weeks later. So you have been chatting in between. Oh, every day we're talking about that.

Every day talking on the phone. Just I'm thinking we are, you know, it's one of those things where we've talked on the phone so much that it didn't feel like a second date. I felt like we knew each other. We knew what was important. We shared life's goals. We, I thought this is going to be great. I'm going to be neighbors with my friend who I, you know, basically grew up with in Houston. And so I get there.

Wait, wait, wait, forgive me for asking this. She may kill me. She may kill me. but I remember you calling me and say, Susan, he just called me and he just got finished a date. He had gone on a couple different dates and will call you afterwards. And I was like, who does that? Yes. And he would say, I should have, you know, talk, that should have been a red flag, except, except he said, I think I said, oh, you just, what I was surprised.

He said, well, don't worry, I haven't, I haven't met anyone, you know, you're still number one. one, something like that. And I thought, but it was still odd. It was odd. So, okay, but we're talking every day, a flash forward. He picks me up at the airport. I go to kiss him, and you could, you know, we know his women, a little bit odd.

And it wasn't, yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't the arms around me so happy to see you as he kissed me when I left the last time. So I thought, okay, something's up. We get to the house, I changed my clothes, we're going to go for a walk. And we're walking. and I go to put my hand in his and he kind of pulls back and I thought, okay. And he said something, you just felt it.

Oh, you could literally, figuratively and literally I felt a lack of feeling something. So long story short, he said, well, I wasn't going to tell you to the end of the weekend, but one of the dates that I had, she lives a mile from me and she's basically said she's convenient. And I want to see where it goes. And she needed him. He said something to the effects. I know you don't need my money. I wasn't going to say this.

A guy was very wealthy. Again, I've made it very clear. Is it nice to go out with a guy with money? Yes, but I'm not dating. And she, I don't want to degrade another woman, but she didn't. She didn't have any money and she was struggling and he said she needs me. But now I'm thunderstruck because I've flown there. he's picking me up at the airport and I looked at him he said I wasn't going to have this conversation with you until Sunday he was going to the doctor

surgery having surgery I was going to take him he want to spend the whole weekend with you and then say I'm telling you guys it was the worst you talk about a bad date this one we'll go down and Ripley's believe it or not and so at the end I said to him wait you have a girlfriend that you want and you want me to go to the game with you and the cross I said no no no you need to call your girlfriend and you need to go with her. And he looked at me, he said, well, I'm happy to take you. I said, no, no, I'm not happy to go with you. So I said, and I'm just going to head down the hill. How uncomfortable did you feel in that moment? Susan, it was so, and I'll tell you, I was angry.

And so I got back and he walked me, he drove me back. I wanted to just go, I can run. I wanted to just run back down. I want to flatten his tires or something. Yeah, see, you and I are different. I just want to get away. and no that hurt it's heard because he had genuinely said he liked me and the reason he said she's convenient

and and she needs me and I thought I you know what what it told me Susan is he's not my match because how many times if I said I don't want a guy who needs who feels that I need him I want a guy who will walk with me hand in hand I don't need a man I want a man not adds to my life not behind me with me. All of that. I say it all the time. And so I'm struggling. I've had, as I say, three or four dates. After it's all said and done, and it took you a minute to get past that, I know.

Oh, I was shocked. You have a heart. You have feelings and emotions. Did he ever call you again? Never. Never. I thought he did. And my friend, I asked her, oh, he invited me to go to St. Bart's with them.

My friend, they go to St. Bartz every year. He invited me, I mean, when I tell you this guy, moved quickly and I thought I was like whoa I was very attracted but I was like we got to slow this down to have him do what he did all I could all I could honestly think after I stopped crying was I was humiliated that's the word I was humiliated we were supposed to go to the oh no we were supposed to go to the country club for dinner this whole dismal day and he still wanted you to go yeah he said well you're not going to go to dinner with me and I said absolutely not and so my friend said no we're not going you can and he goes, well, who am I supposed to eat with? I was like, ugh. So anyway, it was, it was a disastrous,

um, um, the only thing that could have made it better is if he called me ahead of time. And I said that to him. Why didn't you just call me? Yeah, tell me ahead of time. And he said, I wanted to tell you face to face. And I said, I wish you hadn't because it would have, but you see, that's a man who was focused completely on himself. He found a woman down the street who needed us money. I didn't live down the street and didn't need his money. And so he was focused on his needs. And so you know what? In the end, Susan, Sianara.

It's your better off. Now, tell me, I know that was a bad date, but that wasn't just a date. That was a thing going on. Describe a bad date for me. I've told you, a bad date for me is if I don't feel an attraction, if the conversation is stilted, if, I say it laughingly, but I'm sort of serious. If a guy says, well, let's go out at 4 o'clock so we can go happy hour and split an appetizer.

No, I've had those. I've had that happen. It's like, no, that's just not going to work for me. I do have a certain standard of life. And I'm not going to, you know, once, if I'm dating a guy for a while, sure, I'm going to say, yeah, let's go. Let's hop in our car with our shorts on. Let's go get an appetizer or a margarita.

Sure, fine. All right. not at being Kathy my bestie yeah describe for me an ideal dream date what would you be doing I didn't know you would you wish we could have dates like they do on the bachelor I mean I mean so there's two I'll enter that two ways if it's an ideal dream date literally dream date I want to go up in a airplane and I want to jump out tandem with him on an airplane that would be because I want to do it That would be a dream date. We do have to do that because it's on my bucket list.

It's on mine too. I was supposed to do that with Fred. Yeah, that's a bachelor, you know. But realistically. But a realistic dream date. But a realistic dream date for me, you're not going to believe me. Well, you will. You know me.

It's, I don't care what we do. It's a chemistry. It's, if there's chemistry, if the conversation is good, it can be a walk around the lake here. It can be just a drink. dinner. It can be going out on my kayak. It could be anything. It's the, it's the person. It's the feeling I get, not what we're doing. That's a good, very good, very, very good ideal day. Because it's about how you feel. It's how I feel. And you know what? These last couple of guys, the guy that lives close to me, I like, I don't know that anything's going to happen. There's

just so much time has elaps. I'm not sure any, you know, I'm going to hear back from him. again, but I feel badly about that because he and I definitely had chemistry. We definitely had interesting. I will say one of the things that he, and I had really never thought about this, Susan, I like a guy who

wants to do some of the things I want to do, like I love to play golf and kayak and go to the gym, but this guy also is very interested in art. And I know just very little. I mean, I know a Picasso from a Renoir, and that's about it.

You could get turned on to it. But yeah, I would love to. I thought, oh, this is going to be great. He can teach me about art because I'm a lifelong learner. I never want to stop learning. And I felt very engaged with him at that level. So, you know, I don't know. So my question, what are you really looking for?

But tell me about your deal breakers. Well, again, the immediate one is smokers, alcoholics, people who are not at my point in life I need a man who's financially secure I'm not going to support a man and again Bachelor nation be kind to me because

I'm at an age where if we don't fit socially if we don't fit financially then you get a heartbreak like you've had Susan and I'm not I can't do that so the deal breaker For, you know, a guy who cheats.

That's a deal breaker for you or somebody that's rude to the waiter. Oh, yeah, if you are rude to us, wait staff, you're out. Forget it. A deal breaker is somebody who's not fit. I mean, he's got to be active. He doesn't have to be, have the body of a 20-year-old, but he has to be fit. He has to like being busy and active at our ages. And do you have any pet peeves when you're dating specifically?

the first three dates? Is there anything that if he does this, I'll die, you know? Like if he didn't open the door for you? No, I mean, I love a man that opens the door. We notice, though, don't we?

We do know. I have to tell you, when I went out with this guy that lives near me, he picked me up in his very expensive sports car. And when we got out of the car at the restaurant, he valeted the car. And you know what I loved about it? This is why this was such a green flag for me.

We pull in, the guy's a very expensive sports car. He says, oh, all the spots are filled. I guess I'm going to have to valet. He was looking to park his own car. I was like, I loved it. He wasn't, you know, men. He wasn't too showy and trying to impress. So when we got out of the car, the valet is like 20 years old.

He's got excited. Yeah, he said to me, how are you doing tonight? I said, I'm doing great. how are you doing? He goes, well, you should be doing great. Getting out of this fancy car. I said, I know, and my boyfriend just bought it for me for my birthday. And I said, no, I said for a one-year anniversary, that's what I said. For a one-year anniversary, and he goes, really? And the guy, the date is looking at me. And I said, come on, you got to go with it. And he did. And I love that. You've got to have a sense of

humor. He had that, too. He just went right along with it. Didn't make him nervous that I that I was just having fun. I mean, that's the kind of thing I look for. A guy you can have fun. You can laugh at himself. We can laugh together. Kathy, how would you describe the men that are in your dating pool right now?

Like at our age, it's different. I think that the men in my dating pool are a lot of them are used to guys. I hate saying that. They used to play tennis. They used to kayak. They used to swim. They used to play golf. and now they sit on the sofa.

They don't do a lot. And so it's, I think, I don't give up hope. It's like looking a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. Diamond in the rough. A diamond in the rough. I do love, we had Jordan on our podcast from Golden Batswere. And I loved hearing what he said about, you know, no three-day rules, no games. I wish that men, I still find that they play games and they wait to reach out.

And then they'll, I've had men saying, well, I didn't want to sound too eager. Where to me, that's a turnoff. If you're interested, just be interested. I agree. I never could play the game ever. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pastos survive the first bite?

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about the dating culture to death? Again, I can answer this so easily. I wish that people didn't play games. But you know what? I really wish that men would look specifically me even though I am

in my early 70s I wish that men would look at who I am, what I do instead of the number. Instead of the number. That is the dating culture. We talked about this too. It's very acceptable for men

to date younger women and it can be 10, 20, even 30 years younger and people might look askance but oh, we expect it. It's just what our culture has acclimated to, if you will. But I wish that women could date younger men.

I wish I could date younger men. Why couldn't you? Well, because if they're not interested. They have to be willing to date, yes, I get that. I've dated. The last couple of guys I've dated have been three or four years younger than I. And that's funny. Five years younger, the last one, five years younger.

And you know what? I, I, they were talking to, you're going to laugh. One of them was talking about like his hips and his knees and I'm thinking, oh, it's the aches and pains. I know, I'm like, you might be five years, you might be five years younger than I, but, you know, I got your beat on the, on the physicality. So I just wish dating culture was a little more generous to this older generation. Yes, yes.

Well, thank you for sharing, Kathy. You know, we'll talk about this ongoing. I know. And you know what, Susan, we're both, I'm going to give your name to that matchmaker. Not yet. Not yet. But when you're ready, I'm going to give her. And in the meantime, you and I are going to do what we do best.

We're going to travel. Enjoy our lives. Enjoy our lives. And we're going to have fun. But right now what we're going to do is what we do every week. We answer questions from our listeners and we give them our fabulous expert golden advice. So go ahead and take the first one. Okay.

The first one's from Erica, from Charlotte. Hi, babes. He proposed six months ago. and wedding planning has been way more stressful than I expect it. My fiance's parents are paying for most of it, which I'm incredibly grateful for. But because of that, they have an opinion about absolutely everything. Half of the wedding doesn't even feel like us anymore. Is this just something couples have to deal with, or should we be setting firmer boundaries?

I got the answer for this. Oh, go ahead. You go first. Erica Darling, when your in-laws, or soon to be in-laws, offered to pay for the lion's share of the wedding, that was the time to say that is so kind of you, John and Sally, to offer to pay for our wedding. What are your expectations because, whatever your, Erica, whatever your fiancé's name is, we have very strong feelings about our wedding and how we want it to be. And if they said, oh, no, darling, we pay, them who has the gold makes the rules, I'd be saying no thank you and I'd be going to the justice of the peace. Like them who has the gold makes the rules if you don't set it up firsthand. What do you think? I'm trying to understand like that wedding doesn't feel like us anymore. Because the in-laws are- Well, no, I know why, but what doesn't feel like us? So if somebody else is paying for it and to me, and even when my daughter, when she got marriage, mom, I know you want it the way you want it, just do it. I said,

really? Like car blocks just take over. So when somebody else is paying for it, usually weddings, not only the kids get married and their small friends, it's about your family and your extended families and your people that are coming. It's about what the wedding couple wants. Well, then they should pay for it. That, I think that's what I just said. So advice to her is just bite your tongue? No. Because she's probably throwing her a beautiful wedding. I think I think Erica depends how close to the wedding you are.

You might create some sour feelings but I think you and your fiance should go to your in-laws to be and sit down and say hey, a lot of this isn't going the way we want it. But I think your husband to be has to do that.

No, no, they can do it together because it's both the wedding. But again you can't sit for her boundaries, Erica, because you're not paying for it. And so that's a life lesson. When you are paying for things, you have the power. You don't have the power. I wish it could be different, but I think that it isn't.

And so I'm sorry, and I hope you have a wonderful wedding, Erica, and let us know. And like Kathy said, set those boundaries way in the beginning. If it's already involved, that it's almost here, then I think you. You just need to bite the bullet. Yeah. All right. But thank you for writing and let us know how your wedding was. And by the way, congratulations, best wishes for your wedding.

Absolutely. I hope the day is everything you want it to be. Okay. The next one is from Krista, and she's from Philadelphia. Yeah. Okay. Krista says, my boyfriend and I have been together for two years, and we still haven't said, I love you.

We show it in a million different ways, and honestly, I know how he feels. but every time I think about saying the words, I freeze. Is it possible to wait too long to say I love you? Or do actions matter more than words? Oh, you take that one, Susan. Oh, I have a story. How did I know?

I was a year and a half into a relationship. And one night it just came out. And the response made me dead inside. What was the response? He did not say, I love you to. He goes, oh, you do, that's so sweet. I was like, oh. Now, mind you, wait, here comes the best part.

Okay. This was in December, maybe 10th, 15, something like that. His birthday was the day after Christmas, like my father's. And for Christmas and his birthday, I had bought a trip to Greece for two of us. Oh, yeah. You think I wanted to give him that gift? Did you? It shut me down, Kathy.

I didn't want it. too because I felt like the man loved me. I did. Long story, very short, New Year's Eve. That trip wasn't going to be until the spring, but I gifted it reluctantly. On New Year's Eve, at midnight, we're dancing. He pulls me in and tells me he loves me. He was waiting because he wanted to do it at midnight. Do you know how much I did not. appreciate that? I didn't. So I think, yes, you go ahead and say it, honey, because if that's what you're

feeling and see what happens. Because you don't hold back. Yeah, I think. If you really love him, yes. When she says I freeze, is it possible to wait too long? No. No. I think it's, but I'm more curious. I'm not a therapist, but I'm more curious. Actions, two things can be true at the same time, Krista. You can show your love through actions instead of words, but I do find it curious that you've been with this man for two years and that it's never come out of either of your mouth. So maybe there's something there or not there. I would do something like, my, babe, you love me, right? You love me? Because I'm about to tell you something you might

not approve of it, but you love me, right? Like, try to ease it out of it. Yeah, I don't know. I just, I think it's weird, Krista. That is. one of you had. And the word that you used that you used in this question, I freeze. So she gets nervous. Well, I don't know. You've been with the guy for two years. I mean, what are you waiting for? Are you afraid he doesn't love you? Do you really love him? Is that why you're freezing? Oh, okay, I see where you're Yes. I'm saying maybe you don't love him. You said, oh, he really loves me. Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't. But before you go too much further down the road, Krista, my advice would be find out if you're you two really do love each other and want a future together. Ask yourself first, but also,

you got to communicate. So that's something you should talk about eventually. It's two years. I mean, I don't know how old they are if they're looking to have a family or get married someday. Like that you need to know this. Don't waste your time if he does it. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. Let us know when those three momentous words come out of one of your mouths. We'd love to hear it. Okay, you can submit your burning questions to us. by going to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Come back each week. We may answer yours.

We try to give good advice. We know that you don't always agree with us, but we like giving you our expert golden advice. So submit away. And here's our fun part of our podcast with the gals Googling it. Okay. We are back with gals, Google it as we break down the slang words that people are using in dating and pop culture.

And Kathy, what's the first word? Okay, the first one, I've never heard of this one, shocker. Loud budgeting, which means social media-driven financial strategy where people openly and proudly state their savings goals and spending limits to friends, family, or online followers. Coined by comedian Lucas Battle, it shifts the focus from saying, I don't have enough money to, I don't want to spend money on this. So it's like it sets clear boundaries. You're telling your friends no to expensive plans without making up fake excuses. You're shifting the mindset. Focus on prioritizing long-term wealth or specific goals over immediate peer pressure.

Suggest alternatives like propose a cheaper budget-friendly hangouts like potlucks or game nights. Here's my idea. Loud budgeting to me is just, I think it's two-fold. of why they don't want to spend. Right, but it's twofold. It's either it's a euphemistic way of saying I'm cheap, or it's you're so proud of the way you're budgeting your life, saving for the future that you want everyone to know how great you are,

that you know, you've been able to do that. I mean, if you're putting that all over social media. I don't know that I do that. But, you know, I share with somebody how to do your savings, know, always put this away or X amount, you make up your mind. But the next one I could actually relate to. Okay. Go ahead. It makes sense, Kathy, this next one. It's touch grass. And the definition, to step away from your computer or phone, go outside and experience the real world. People say it is a joke or an insult to someone who spends too much time online.

I always felt like you need to be grounded. You got to be barefoot in the grass and the dirt and you get grounded. There is a thing. Wait, can I tell you how old I am? I was like touch grass, smoke grass. Remember when you used to call weed grass? I'm like, oh. And if you're mad about a video game all day, please just go touch grass.

I love that. I love it. So I think honestly, that phrase, I like that phrase. I'm going to use that because kids today, everyone, not just kids, are on social media so much. But sometimes it's their job. We don't even realize. I know you and I go, look, when we're out, these kids haven't enjoyed what we're doing because their head is in the phone, but that's what they do for a living. So I've kind of backed up on that thought a little bit and I have to respect. that because it is work. Yes, but Susan, even when it's not work, many people are on their phones. They're gaming. They're doom scrolling. Well, I have a problem with backgammon.

Yeah, well, there you go. So you're on, so you need to go touch grass, my friend. I'm going to go touch grass right now. Get off the shopping. Get off the, I mean, Susan can waste more time on her. And I can tell, by the way, when Susan's on the phone with me, that's what I start saying. Are you playing games? I can hear her clicking the buttons. So I'm, I can hear her clicking the buttons. So I'm going to start saying her, hey Susan, touch grass. Go touch grass. Oh, my God. This has been, well, except for my dating story.

Well, I'm going to say thanks for joining us and sharing. Kathy, thank you for sharing what's happening in your dating life. I hope bachelor's going to go easy on me because. Why, you didn't do anything wrong. Well, I feel like sometimes people will say, oh, she's asking for perfection. I'm really not. I have a ton of love to give. I want to find my person.

I want to find my chapter two, last chapter life, whatever you want to call it. I'm looking for the guy that will make me happy and who I can give my love to. It just hasn't happened yet. But in the meantime, I keep her happy because we're going to live life. We have a lot of plans coming up. We'll be all over the place. I know. Well, listen, it's been grand.

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