Bachelor Happy Hour - Kathy, Susan, and Your Dating Woes | Golden Hour

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are diving into your questions! We kick things off by chatting about Thanksgiving and what Kathy and Susan have planned for the holiday. Next, we get into the question of the day: Are serial daters missing out on anything? We then answer your questions about dating woes. From stumbling across your boyfriend’s journal entry about you to celebrity hall pass drama, we’re getting into it all! Plus, we end today’s episode with a Golden Spotlight all about grandchildren. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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year it gets worse instead of better. Well, for me, I have passed the torch, as they say. So my kids do the cooking. I bring the wine, the champagne, and I bring my homemade eggnog bread, but I don't have to do the turkey. Do you hear this people? Well, wait. Do you hear what she's saying? When was the last time that you made a turkey because you just said I passed? Well, I passed the torch meaning we are tradition is always to get out the Christmas China. And that's the first day we use it. It's Thanksgiving day. And my daughter now has my Christmas. China. My son and daughter have my sterling silver and the crystal glass, all the stuff we use for the holidays. But we have traditions. Like I make pecan pie. I make eggnog bread. I make

cranberry bread. I do the baking. My husband always did the turkey. So when I say I passed the floor. Okay. That's what I was referring to. The turkey is now residing at my daughter and son's house. She's not a girl in the kitchen, but she can bake. And you did tell me about that eggnob bread. I'm going to bring you some. What are you doing for Thanksgiving? What do you I entertain, of course. I can't even count. Maybe 20, 25 pound bird. The soup has already been made.

You know, I make Italian wedding soup, which is... Because, you know, I heard the pilgrims came across with some Italian wedding soup. That is amazing that you have kept the recipe since... But I have graduated to dictating side dishes. I always and forever did everything on my own. And I'm getting up there. And nobody wants to take that torch. if you will. So now I have somebody bringing the green bean casserole and somebody's always somebody

brings pumpkin pie, but go ahead and make it. You want mac and cheese? Go ahead. You want sweet potatoes? So do you have traditional foods that you, because we do. Traditional foods that you only cook on Thanksgiving. Only on Thanksgiving. And Christmas is the same. And if I swayed on Christmas day, they would have heart failure. Heart failure. I am so bored with Christmas dinner. So wait, you do the exact same thing for Thanksgiving and Christmas? No, absolutely not, because I'm not that big of a fan of turkey. So I do the ham, but we add the Italian to Christmas. It used to be on Thanksgiving as well with the raviolis, the meatballs.

Now they go, what, we're not having raviolis? Not on Thanksgiving, no. We add the Jewish, we have cougal. No, I'm just saying we do like pecan pie, sweet potatoes, we do mashed potatoes, gravy. The stuffing is seems to be. be always different. We seem to experiment on stuffings, which I don't get. But I love Thanksgiving. It's my daughter's. Actually, my daughter's favorite holiday. It's not my favorite. I love it. It is one of my favorites. You know why? Let me guess. You get to cook.

No, the gift giving isn't there. It's not that everybody has to say something they're grateful for. It's a family day and or friends. But it's just. to be together. There's no side stuff, no present opening and kids running around, looking, you know, fighting over a gift or the babies. I love, we do the same thing. I will also say my son started this tradition recently with his family. Every night at dinner, they say the highs and lows for their day, which I love. And so at Thanksgiving, you know, we always have the same prayer that we say every year. And you're right. It's about family. It's about eating. But come on, come on bachelor nation come stay with me on this i love all the food but it's craziness right everybody

eats you drink and then you're staring at piles of dirty dishes come on it's not all a norman rockwell day let's be serious i don't know if anybody else out there is like this but kathy like you my grandmother's china would only come out on thanksgiving christmas and easter my sisters who never entertain on a holiday and cook. My one sister doesn't cook at all. Lisa is a really good cook, and they all come. Never, ever do I not want to put that china out.

They have a rule. Don't even think about setting the table. I go, what? Hold on. It's at your house? Yes. They don't get above. Paper plates.

Are you ready for this? Paper. Turkey plates, big, they're sturdy. And even the same. silver where I go, are you freaking crazy? Wait a minute. Wait. They're killing me. Hold on. Hold on. I want everyone to hear this. You use paper plates on Thanksgiving. No, I don't. They will.

My china will be set right in front of me. I say your house, your rules. Anyway, I really cannot believe that the holidays are here. As you know, I already have all my Christmas decorations up. But I really do love to take a moment at Thanksgiving. and really just be in the moment to be grateful for my family, my friends, my health. And I wish, I know you do too, but I want to wish everybody the happiest and healthiest of Thanksgiving. I hope if you're alone, you find a neighbor, a friend, somewhere to donate your time. I just hope you find someone to share a meal with and just look back on the air and be grateful for all of your blessings.

Because even though times are tough, say it out loud. say something or a few things that you're grateful for. I mean, giving thanks is what this day is about. Also, for those that are going to be sad, that just, I just went to the UPS store a little couple hours ago, and she just lost her dad. It always seems like it's this time of the year. People lose people.

I don't know why that is. Do you find that? It's around the holidays that people pass. I don't find that as much, but thanks a lot for putting that on me. now I'll let you know if somebody walks dead today. But I think, and you and I've talked about this, for me, the holidays are hard because I really try to maintain all the traditions. And we'll talk about this again on another podcast, maybe before the holidays, but I try

to maintain all the traditions with my family. But you know what? There's one really important person missing in my immediate family, and that's my husband. He's not at the table. And my parents aren't there. And these were the times when we all. got together and I think the holidays bring that up but you know what I try to focus on the positive my grandchildren my children who is there and who's not there so yeah but I'm doing the prayer we

always talk about those that aren't with us and our list is getting so big I've lost two brothers both parents yeah it's like okay we can't mention them all by name now right well Susan I'm wishing you a happy happy Thanksgiving thank you Kathy and you too and wishing all our listeners too. Happy, healthy. Everybody, stay healthy and be grateful. And be grateful, because we have a lot to be grateful for. So how do you make your stuffing? I love this. People, I mean, those of you that are listening, let me know, has anybody ever put sausage in their stuffing? This is something. I do. That's Canadian. I do. Is it? Yeah. My stepmom's recipe had sausage in it, and it's delicious. But I told you every year we seem to try a new stuffing. So I never get the same one

twice. Right. Right. Now, did you stuff the bird or do you like it on the side baked by itself? I like it stuffed. We stuffed the bird, but we don't typically eat it because, you know, all the things of bacteria and botulism and, you know, things that I can't pronounce with 19 syllables. But apparently when you stuff the bird, there's things, bacteria that gets in it. So typically, I cook, and I have done the stuffing before, do one outside the bird and then one inside the bird, scoop out the bird. It does flavor it. You know, it does flavor the turkey. The bird flavors the stuffing too. I'm going to blow your mind right now, Susan. This is a yes or no. Kathy has ever made turkey soup from the turkey carcass. Yes. You are right. Yes. Why else would you say

that cat that was a no-brainer. I know, but you know I don't cook. So has Susan ever made turkey soup from the carcass? I'm going to go no. You're right. I'm like us. I do all that. I'm not doing that too. I give it away and somebody else makes it and I'll eat it. Unbelievable. I can't not believe you don't make turkey soup. All right. I make a lot of soups too. I know you do. Well, happy happy. How about the frosting, the bird? Okay. Who? 25 pound bird. I'm I'm reading the thing, and I go, oh, my gosh. It was like 24 hours a pound or something. I was like, wait, wait, wait, no.

I've got, Susan. Five hours per five pounds, or one day per five pounds. I'm like, oh, my God. Get out your calculator. I have the funniest story before we get on with our show here. I was over to friends, oh, gosh, at least a week ago. And she was so proud. She'd been to Costco.

and she had her she goes you know turkeys are expensive and they're hard to find and you know whatever and so she's got the turkey and a couple of us are over there having you know ladies chat night with wine and we both look at each other and I said to my friend bath you what are you talking about it's 10 days before Thanksgiving she goes it can stay in the refrigerator said for 10 days yes I started laughing she knows that I don't cook I said Beth I don't cook even I know that one She goes, are you serious? Wait, it gets worse. She goes, I'll just stick it back in the freezer.

I said, you cannot re-free. Well, was it to frost it already? Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah, no, throw that bird out. I said, you have two choices here. Throw that bird out or cook it tomorrow and bring me some turkey. I don't know what she did because I did not get any turkey.

One of those deep fried turkeys. I live in Texas. I have. Yeah. I have. I mean, it's okay. It's just not. Their house doesn't smell good in that beautiful golden turkey that sits there just shining.

I actually love turkey. I mean, I love, I, you're going to be shocked. As you know, Susan, I can cook. I just don't. I make a homemade cranberry sauce. None of this crap out of the can for me. I make, if when I used to cook and have Thanksgiving here, like I said, my husband, Daryl did the bird.

The kids as I got older would bring, you know, the mashed potatoes. or something. Well, really not because my husband had to have him a certain way. So he made those too. But I would do all the baking and I would make homemade cranberry sauce. Now, can I give you reason number 4,962 why I don't do that anymore? Because I would spend the time making it and my kids would come over and go, where's the sliced, you know, the ocean spray out of the can't? I was like, what? I mean, really? It's just like, really kids? What about salads? Like, you know how you prepare a beautiful salad with every meal, right? Most meals.

We don't do green salad. On the holidays, they go, don't make the salad. We don't have enough room. No, but do you, okay, Susan, we're going to show our age here. Do you make jello salads? I've had them, no. Okay, can I tell you, I saw in the news, and we all know everything you see in here on TV is true. True.

They said that jello salads are making a huge comeback this year. And I have some great ones with Coca-Cola that it's like a fizzy salad. I might crank them out again and make one with cream cheese. I'm just trying to prove to everyone that I can cook. So when Mr. Wright does come along, I can cook and be fabulous Thanksgiving. Did you make your own whipped cream? I do make my, I absolutely. When I make all my pies, I make homemade whipped cream.

I'm weird. baking, I will do anything from scratch. I make my own pie crust. I do not buy those straw-bought pie crust. Baker, I'm not. I am. See, you know why I'm a good baker? And you know why you're not?

I love you. Because you measure out everything and you follow the directions. And baking is precise. You need a little bit more of this or a little pinch of that. But not in baking. Not in baking. In baking, if you put in a little too much baking powder or baking soda, the thing is going to rise right over the pan.

You have to. Or if you forget it, it won't rise at all. Well, exactly. But I'm saying I measure. You're exactly right. And baking is a precise. I do make cookies, Italian cookies, only once a year around Christmas. And this year, and of course I make the regatta cookies, and you got to ice in every one of them and put the sprinkles on them, the whole bit.

But this year, my sisters and I do a cookie day at my house. I have the smallest oven. the biggest house but the smallest oven they've got these grand ovens nobody goes to their house they just like to destroy mine and we have music playing and mimosa's going it's fun and we're all full of flour and who's making this everybody makes a different cookie well this year I also go to a cookie exchange and it's usually the day after me and my sisters guess what cat this year my cookie exchange is the day before I make cookies so now I got to throw that in the mix.

Or Susan, it would not be beneath me. I got to be honest, making Christmas cookies. I do it with the grandkids to ice, you know, the sugar cookies. Yeah. But that dough and stuff, I don't. I just buy the sugar cookies and we cut them out and decorate them. Well, what I'm doing with grandkids, yeah, but. I have never, well, actually, I went to go cookie exchange once.

They're a nightmare. They're a nightmare. I don't like most of the cookies. Do you guys like cookie exchange? Because what I bring home? half of it I wouldn't even eat well it's like you know what to me I'm going to take flack for this cookies exchange to me are like are like um Halloween getting a banana you know something a sliced apple like no thank you I want to make my own cookies I'm Kathy we could go on talking

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Listen to business history on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, Kat, what do you think about serial daters? And what do you think are the most important things they miss out on by never being single? Okay, so I'm going to hold on to your chair, Susan. I'm going to ask you to explain something to me. Okay. Are you ready? A serial dater to me means someone who never settles down with one person.

They're just constantly, that is where the cereal comes in, constantly dating people. They got Sally one night, Susie the next. And if you're a guy, you're right? Yes, yes. Okay. So my question is they never commit. Well, the end of a commit, but the question I have is a question on the question of the day, is it that they don't ever want to be single or what you just said, that they don't want to

commit because I'm not sure. So that's my question. Do you think being a serial dater means they're afraid or missing out on being single? I think that that's what they enjoy and they only want to date so they don't want to commit. But what the question read was, what do you think are the most important things? they miss out on by never being single. I think what you would miss out on is meeting the right person, like when you're not looking and you're not crazily dating 100 people. But maybe they don't want it. That's my point. That's exactly right. That is my point. I think people who are serial,

I think it's a, this is a judgey question in my book. Yeah. Because some people don't want to be committed. I have friends now at this age who say to me, I don't want to be with one man. I like going out and dating. Do they like being alone? Yeah, they spend time by the one. They travel by themselves. So I don't think they're necessarily connected, I think is what I'm saying. I think that people who are serial daters, either what you just said, don't want to commit or they just like. like, you know, varieties of spice of life. Have you dated more than one person at one time, could you say? No.

I mean, I've had a date with someone and then a week later gone out with someone else and then maybe gone back and had a date with the first guy. But no, I don't, listen, I'm old. I can barely remember the days of the week at this point. Let's see, was it John tonight? Jim, I can't remember. I could not keep that together, no. I don't think I'd be good at serial dating at all.

I'm a relationship person. I am too. I am too. But I think for me, I am definitely single, sad to say at this point. But I think I don't miss out if I am dating. Do you feel like you're missing out? You are actually a good example, Susan. You have to be dating.

You're rarely single. I mean, now you're really not single, but you've always said to me. For years, but. No, but you. always had someone to date you always no no I went years well since I've known you I met me yeah no no after you met me I didn't meet Frederica until this year no but you were dating you had several dates with guys in the time I've known you do we need a list dates because I went back to somebody I was familiar with the hangout with that's a woman called out a date no no no

but then you had some other guys you dated I I don't know for me I don't mind. I'm very happy being by myself and I've had to come to terms of that because I never thought I would be. Right. So, but nobody thinks that, yeah. But I think for me, like,

they're serial dating, which is, you know, I need a black book. So let me ask you something. Serial daters, okay? So a man dates constantly. Yeah. And for me, looking at that picture, I wouldn't be able to ask him certain questions. Like, well, what are we doing this?

week because you've got to wait for him to ask you for another date? Like, if there's no relationship, what if he's dating, serial dating, but he dates the same person every week as well as. Wait a second. You're saying he's the serial dateer. I'm saying what if I'm dating, which I haven't done, but if I'm dating, let's call it three guys at a time, you know, and I, and I'm maybe I'm going to call him and say, hey, Rick, do you want to go to the balloon festival in Albuquerque with me next weekend. I mean, it doesn't always have to be the guy. I'm saying, for me, I can't do it.

It's too, I can't keep my own day straight, you know. I would get their names confused even. I mean, yeah, I don't necessarily think people miss out on anything not being single. If they, I think it's a, it's a lifestyle. It's a choice. I do too. I do. And I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily to be a serial date or if you know.

I wouldn't want a date. I'm sorry. I wouldn't want to date a serial dater because my idea of dating is getting to know somebody to go into a relationship and get comfortable with. To me, dating, you don't have sex, you don't ask certain questions, you don't expect things like you would in a relationship. Well, I think, I think, I know this wasn't precisely the question, but you and I often go rogue on these things.

I think the bigger issue is what you just said. You have to know if you're dating a serious. data what the limitations are and if you're both good with it great but that's great to your point don't go dating a serial dater who you know is dating you friday night somebody else saturday night somebody else for brunch on sunday and be expecting that you're going to turn him or her around because you're probably illusional all right let's get into our fan questions and see if somebody wants to know about serial dating today i'm going to start us off here we go question one is from anonymous hi ladies i need to know if this is something i should compromise on

so i was using my boyfriend's ipad the other day he gave me the password when he got it and told me i could use it whenever and he accidentally left his journal up when i realized i went to swipe away but i saw my name i only caught a glimpse of it and it was about him hating that i swear so much i really wish i didn't see it but now it's stuck in my head we've been together for over a year and he's never brought this up before should i say something i don't even really swear that much i'm not sure what to do and would love any advice you have thank you oh i can answer this so quickly don't say a word so quickly you want to be your boyfriend it's really simple sweetie stop swearing stop swearing that's all it's that simple and your boyfriend your boyfriend

i would uh bring it up to him um after you go six months or without swearing, I might say, hey, Johnny, did you notice that I don't say the F word? I don't say, you know, the whole, I'm like saying I'm on air. Did you notice? And when he looks and says, yeah, say, you know what? I saw it in your iPad that you didn't like me swearing. And I like you so much that I made that change for you. And oh, by the way, be careful what you put in your iPad because I do have the password.

No, I would never I'm kidding I was joking at the last But I think I don't think it's I don't think I would tell I mean it doesn't

sound like she read the whole thing She just saw I mean I'd let it go I would just I'd stop swearing And I would let it go And I would stop swearing Try to be more I mean shit

How do you stop swearing Susan Damn it Kathy I know I mean That's a good one anonymous like never tell you it because it's not like you were snooping you just want to use it but first of all i'm impressed that a man still writes a journal okay yeah yeah but to leave it up on his ip well hold on no maybe he wanted her to see that there you go oh look at you

conspiracy theorist over here i think i mean listen what i would say is uh get your own iPad stop using his and never oh you never you want to know things that bother them so you don't do them anymore. That's like a gift. It's a gift. And if you really do like them, and I swear a lot too.

But I don't swear like at people, but I just say stupid words. Anyhow, would that be said? Wait a minute. I have to ask a question. Yes. The first question she said was, I need to know if this is something

I should compromise on. What is the compromise? Sweetheart, anonymous. I mean, it's either, hell yes. Or hell no, pick you're either, there's no comp, you're going to say shit every other day. I mean, well, maybe, because she's obviously thinking she doesn't do it that much, but maybe it's more than she realizes. So just take it, do a self-check.

Okay. So we were talking earlier about compromise and settling. Yes. This would clearly be a compromise issue. And probably anonymous, the smallest one you're ever going to compromise on. I mean, is he a goody two shoes, though? I mean, does he not even say damn? Like, we don't know who we're dealing with.

I don't know, but I find it interesting that you and I were talking about compromises in an earlier podcast, compromising and settling. This is clearly not settling. It's, you know, life is tough anonymous. Life gets tough. If you're happy with your boyfriend, compromise. And I put quotes around it. Stop your damn swearing, okay?

And he's never brought it up to you. so just leave well enough alone that was a little gift from your little guardian angel saying there's one thing that he's not real it doesn't care for so just alter it a little bit don't change overnight and be holier than now you know just be you but just be aware that's all yeah be aware and you know god if that's the biggest issue you and your boyfriend have i know you're lucky i want to meet his old I want to meet his father. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught.

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All right, the next one, Kathy, is from Shelley. Okay. She says, hi, Kathy and Susan. I need to know if I am overreacting. My boyfriend has always had a crush on a really popular influencer. Oh, no. I've only ever heard him talk about her once when it came up in a group setting.

But I'm fully aware of how he feels about her, L.O.L. Well, during a game night with our friends, he was asked if he has a celebrity hall pass to which he stated this influencer. We've never discussed this, and it honestly really put me off. I hate the idea of haul passes and would not be comfortable with that. Since it's so unlikely, it'll ever happen as it's, is it worth me bringing up that I am not okay with it? I guess since she's an influencer and not a full-blown celebrity, it feels slightly more possible. I just can't get it out of my head.

Let me know if you think I'm overreacting. Can I just say one thing? It's not fun to be jealous, but that's what this is. Can I can I can I? I mean we're going to talk about this but Shelley first of all when you said your boyfriend all has always had a crush on a really popular influencer damn Shelley you found out about me just kidding yes you are she is overreacting yes so let me just say my my Kathy school me hall pass okay I knew you that's what I was going a lot of people don't know know what it means. A hall pass means if you know, if I have a crush on Matthew McConaughey

and I'm, hey, can I have a hall pass meaning if Matthew McConae comes around, you know, I can get it on with a half a thing with your partner in other words, it's okay. A hall pass means if Matthew McConaughey rings my doorbell and I'm married or in a relationship, it's okay

if Matthew and I hook up. That's what I said, yes. It's okay with your whoever person. Yeah, it's called a Hall pass, like free ride. Well, you just say no to hall passes. Well, come on. Are you overreacting, Shelley? Yes, you are.

My kids talk about hall passes with each other. You know, somebody, an athlete that one finds attractive or a Hollywood star. I mean, it's more just a kind of a fun thing. I think Susan's right. Jealousy, especially of somebody who's out in the lithosphere who has probably no chance of ever meeting. your boyfriend and it's like a it's like a celebrity crush really yes yes i mean and i know how she feels because i feel like well i want him to think that about me i want him to get excited about me

instead of that person serious sure i've always done that no no no you're going to have a problem if frederick has a celebrity crush on jennifer aniston no or Well, Dickey, my ex-husband loved Julie Roberts. And that bothered you? No. Okay, well, that's what we're talking about here. A really popular influencer, which means that she is probably on social media. And she's, who cares?

I don't mean to make light of a show. No, I agree with that. I do agree with it. But it's the feeling that he thinks somebody's all that when you want him to think you're all that. That's how she's feeling right now. Insecure. You're both insecure. Yes. Both of you. Shelly, you and Susan need have a little conversation. I'm graduated. Trust me. I'm 16. Okay. I have, I have would be. I get it. I think it's cute. When you really got to worry, Shelley is when he's telling you he's got a crush on the girl

next door, literally who is next door. Then you might have a problem. Or he spends too much time with the boss's wife. Now you got a problem. Do I think you're overreacting? 100% yes, Shelly. He obviously thinks she's hot, yeah. And then find somebody that you think's hot, that's all. But he's your boyfriend, you know, enjoy it and relax. I really think you're overreacting.

And I don't mean to make funnier, Shelley, but let it go. Let it go. Okay. All right. Today, we're going to do another golden spotlight. This time we're talking about grandchildren that we adore, Kathy. okay how to ask your children politely about when they're having kids balancing your children's wishes as parents and your wisdom about parenting as a grandparent what it's like well well let's take

one at a time here let's let's start with i have never asked my children if and when they were having kids. Did you? No, I did not. I got surprised really early on. Yeah. I don't think it's appropriate to ask your children when they're having kids. That's their decision. And I will tell you, my husband and I were married eight and a half years before we had our first child and my fabulous in-laws. Yes, they did say, when are you going to have children, you know? And then we have three, they said when are you going to stop having children so you know i have learned to never ask those questions i think that is um we we know that we love being grandparents and and we don't some people don't say it with any malicious intent it's really i just want to be a grandmother i want to be a grandfather

but i really think you don't know what's going on behind closed doors you don't if you don't know if your children can afford the child you don't know if job you don't know if they maybe can't get pregnant you know what worry about your own life not your children's and i think a lot of this is and this is difficult for many many grandparents when you're watching your child and their spouse or your you know whether it's your son or your daughter how they're raising their children and what you don't agree with some things it's really difficult to bite your damn tongue i might have been my tip off a couple times. I think it's only once or twice that I've actually raised my voice for my opinion that I think they're dead wrong and you really need to think about this. Well, I will tell you. I try to stay

neutral. Yeah. But it kills you when you walk away. Kathy, it eats me up. Well, I stay neutral for the most part, except a case of, first of all, you know, my son is remarried, the one Kyle, the one you you officiated his wedding. And his, my granddaughter, who's seven, is. just an angel. I mean, but, you know, she's a product of divorce. She's had to grow up quickly. She has great manners. I think my son, Kyle, if you are listening, I think you are a fabulous dad. Now, my daughter, and they have a two-year-old, but she's going to kill me for saying this. The other day, I said, Caitlin, you're raising a terrorist. I mean, the child is so stubborn. I love her. I laugh, but I... She takes it to her, Mimi, or Kiki. No, I am not

stubborn. She's after her father. Oh, yeah, he is stubborn. Kaelin can be stubborn, but oh, no, this child, there's, there is now a picture of my granddaughter in the dictionary under the word stubborn. But I say very little, like occasionally, I will say something. And my daughter now listens to me because, you know, I don't know if you know this, Susan, but I was very stupid in my daughter's eyes until she had a child. Oh, my time. I share that. It is tough. I told you she calls me now. Yeah. How did you do this? I do. I do think that we have wisdom and I think our kids when they want our advice, they'll ask for it. Unfortunately, there is a dichotomy between the amount of advice they want and the amount of advice we want to give is the problem. But when they ask,

was they ask, by all means, we'll give them our opinion or, or, oh, come on. Are you saying you never give advice when you're not asked? No, I try not to with Brittany. I do. You try. Christopher, I jump in if I think he's too hard on Mason, and I'll say it. I've jump in more when I think they're being unreasonable and you're having a bad day and you're taking it out on your kids. You know, we just had a situation like that. Dickie was venting with me. And I said, you know, Dickey, I did those things. He goes, she was cussing.

Like, he didn't do anything wrong. I said, we've had, you weren't here. You were off playing baseball. I was dealing with kids day in, day out, and they didn't submit their homework or their project on time yet it was done. I am frustrated. I'm having a bad day. Yes, we do stupid things that we regret.

it happens. So don't judge them for that. Yeah, I mean, I don't, and I don't think you do either. I want to know on a scale of one to 10, Susan, how much do you like being a grandmother? Oh my God. So Susan's grandmother's name is Mimi and I'm Kiki. So how do you like being a Mimi? I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. They love me. They're never mad at me because I always say yes, most of the time. I mean, I have said no, but it kills me. So the little terrorist, who shall go nameless when i when i come into her house lately she'll look at me well when i first come and she'll go kiki and she'll run and hug and kiss me yeah and then it's like oh now it's time to have dinner or something and i'll say okay reese we're going to get up in your high chair whatever and she'll say

no kiki no and kiki sit there i mean i'm telling you the child is i kills i love those um my two granddaughters like no other i i don't think i was prepared for how much i would love them no now i know but here's my question i mean we know frederick lives so you just have to work with me here how do you feel about moving awake because i know your your daughter's children don't live quite as close but pretty close how would you feel about but i chris's daughter you see a lot how would you feel about not being able to see your grandchildren like like on the weekly baseless. I'd have to, there would be some rules that I would get here every eight, 10 weeks. Yeah. Oh, yeah. My thing is I couldn't do it. Mine would be once a month. If I could. I would come and

spend a week out of every month. If I could. Because they grow so fast. I know they do. And you miss so many things like there. I was with you actually on a cruise and Estella had her first dance recital and I wasn't there. And it killed me. But it killed my son even more. Yeah. Exactly. But I was there for her first year leading game in the rain, so at least I got to do that. So, you know, there's, some things can't be helped. That, that's, it can't. Do you see, um, I see my children doing some of the things that I did as a parent. I see them do now, even though, like, I'll give you an example, uh, Kyle's daughter, my granddaughter, Lindley, she plays piano. And you don't know this or maybe you do. My three kids. kids were they won competitions. They had offers for free rides for music. I mean, they were really good. But I was a terrorist. They practiced an hour a day, every day. They were really accomplished pianists. And they used to bitch and moan about it. But now, Kyle has Lindley taking piano and he's not

as rigid, I mean, who could be, as I was about practice. But I see that. he realizes how important it is to practice. I mean, you're paying a lot of money to have them get lessons and the piano itself and so on. But it's just it's just it's the it's the structure of it's first of all, I mean, I love music and I love hearing piano, but it's the structure of this is part of your day. You're going to practice in in lindley might only practice 10 minutes. But I love seeing Kyle, you know, you know, tapping out the beat like. I used to and just see what you know seeing him it's like you see the next generation interest in it with her and that's so important as a father that's a great bonding moment even though she'll

bitch about it sometimes but she's young yet what is the hardest challenge you find about being a grandparent other than us keeping our mouth shut about discipline what's the hardest thing you find about being a grandparent I don't think anything's hard except when I like you said other than my children being too hard on them. What's hard for me, the youngest ones, the two four-year-olds, I don't know that I'll be here for their wedding. Oh, Susan.

They're four, Kat. What am I going to live? I got a two-year-old. I'm going to be there for her wedding. I'm older than you are. Think positive, girlfriend. Put it out in the universe. You just asked me what I thought.

That's what I told you. All right, all right, all right. I don't find anything hard except if they're going to laugh. You're going to laugh when I say. this. Okay. I, and I'm, I can't believe I'm admitting this. So my sister who lives in Canada um, is the most creative person on the planet. Like she, when we went there this summer, she had made capes for the granddaughters and hair ribbons and she makes stuff out of egg cartons. I don't know where, I don't know where it comes. She is so creative. That's not who I am.

That's not me either. Um, but, but, but a challenge for me, is trying when I babysit them coming up with activities because I want my grandchildren to want to come and spend time with me and I know that it's all my friends who have older grandchildren say Kathy enjoy them young because when they get to be teenagers the last thing they want to do is come to Kiki's house so it is a challenge for me to come up with things when they're little you know you can put them in the stroller and we're going to go leaf hunting turtle hunting look at the I'm saying all those things.

I usually take them to Walmart or the dollar store and let them pick out new things. Like Stella the other day got press on fingernails and I have to come home and do it or polish their nails for girls. Yes, but that kind of stuff, I'll do that, but I'm trying to, my grandmother was an experienced grandmother. I remember planting bulbs in the garden with her. So I'm constantly trying to come up with those things that my granddaughters will remember. as opposed to taking them shopping. I want to have experiences. And it's a challenge.

They don't remember shopping too, Kath. Well, your grandchildren, well, mine are like. No, we dig in the dirt. We do. Yeah, but that's a challenge for me. And Toby, Toby digs in the dirt with me and they want to water the flowers. And Mimi, this one really needs it. Yeah.

But you know what? It's good. We're learning. But we're teaching them that their place in community, that there's more. important things than themselves. An iPad time. Like I had her not too long ago for the day and I remember asking her mother is her iPad in there as a charge.

She said yes and we never got on it. We didn't have enough time. Wait a second. Whoa. I don't let you let your, I do not. So my, my, my, my, Linley, her mother, I said to say this, Linley is on the iPad all the time. She shouldn't go outside when not in her dad.

house no iPads when she comes to my house there is no TV unless like late at night well not late at night but you know after dinner we might watch a half an hour something on Disney to get her settled for bed but I am that is technology is absolutely no when I have my granddaughter they have enough when I'm cooking dinner and she's not just getting tired and I'll let sit with her iPad and put a movie on it for it or on the TV and we never even get to watch the whole thing yeah but that's about the only time because we stay busy now if it's a rainy day we color we you know try to play a game we dance we put the music up loud and have a dance time before we before we leave this topic I have to I have to say this one of the best things I

never thought I would say it one of the best things about being a Graham parent they come and they go and they go i love on them we play we have so much fun kiss love i mean i'll do anything packed them up real nice and then it's like here you go honey bye bye kiki loves you kiki'll sees and we facetime see you next time blow kisses yeah kisses exactly i mean i love them but when i was in my 50s you're going to think i'm nuts when i was in my 50s i used to think about you know adopting a child i talked about and he looked him like i was crazy but i i still have the energy if you want to be honest to raise a child i'm just more selfish now and there's other things i want to but i have to admit handing him back over is like okay yeah i know i love you

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