Bachelor Happy Hour - Kathy & Susan on Bachelor Nation News & Getting You a Date | Golden Hour

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are here to give you the rundown on dating apps. We kick things off catching you up on the latest in Bachelor Nation news. Then, we dive into all things dating apps. If they existed in their 20s, would Kathy and Susan have used them? Have dating apps ruined romance today? Then, the ladies tell us what they think the other one is looking for in a guy; do they know each other as well as they think they do? We also get their pet peeves and hot takes when it comes to the apps; men, if you’re single and looking, you might want to take notes. Plus, we’re answering your dating questions. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome back to Golden Hour, and I am Kathy coming from Philadelphia. And guess who's with her? We are here in Philadelphia. I'm at Susan's house, and what have you been doing, Susan? Oh, my goodness. So Kathy was judging the Miss New Jersey competition, and I drove down after flying back from Boston,

turn around, unpack, repack, and head it to the beach. And there she was. And she left me a ticket. However, Kath, can I be honest with you? Yeah. I don't want to say I'm rude, but I expect it a little more posh because you told me to wear a nice dress. And I felt, whoa, I'm overdressed. I was thinking I was going to Miss America.

I mean. Okay, well, first, let me just say, I judge the Miss New Jersey pageant. There were 22 beautiful young ladies from all over New Jersey. but we and the pageant was held at the music pier and you know it was it was so much fun I literally said to the other I was one of seven judges and after look at these girls CVs I called my daughter and told her she was a slacker as a joke but let me just say Susan came down how about the family no no wait I want to talk about Susan I want to talk about you because the talent was amazing sus the parking was at a premium so I said to Susan I said to Susan I Yeah, here we go. Where did you park? Can I explain it first before? Please do.

Because those of you that are listening, you could just go online because there's a video, trust me. And there's so many people giving me hell for this. So I am like minutes. I had to perform a wedding first, a plus hour plus away. So I'm flying, of course, to get there on time because at 9 o'clock the doors were going to be locked, correct, Kathy? So now I'm there and I got a fine point.

And right at the police station, I hear public, I see public parking. I pull on in, park my car. I'm looking to pay somewhere. There's nowhere to pay. Great. I run up the boardwalk. I'm like perspiring trying to get, I make it on time. Well, when we leave, there was a beautiful.

Susan had a little love letter from the police, yep. So the police ask very kindly to not park in their lot. No, please move your car. This is police parking only. A-S-A-P. How sweet was that? Okay. So we get, so after that, we go back, after the whole thing was over, we go to a party with the judges. Susan goes out with some other friends for dinner. We all come back to my hotel room and we're all sitting out on the patio, having a good old time. You know, you can't really talk about the pageant because that's sort of confidential

how we judge and all that. But the next day, Susan and I go to the beach. People are recognized us on the beach. It was great, you know, how much they love the show and they want to see us back on another show. So we loved her in that. Now we get in the car to drive to New Jersey. Wait, you forgot the best part. We went to the board walking at pizza

because Susan needs to eat. Wait, can I just ask y'all? When we go to sit down in this restaurant, Susan said, I'd like a slice. There's two slices, a birch beer and a Coke. And I said to her, what's a slice? She goes, a slice of pizza. I said, but what kind of pizza? She goes, it's a regular slice of pizza. Cheese pizza. I said, where I'm from, you say, I'd like a piece of pepperoni pizza. I'd like a vegetarian.

She goes, no, here you just say you want a slice and they give you regular pizza. If you wanted one with, if you wanted one, you would say, can I have a slice with pepperoni? Like, we know in this land. I'm telling you, it is a whole different world. When I arrived in Philadelphia at the parking garage, the guy told me not to come back. I was like, it's the city of brotherly love in Philly. Anyway. It is just how you greet them, baby girl. I guess it was something like that. Anyhow, we have a full week ahead of us.

Our friend Nancy's going to join us on Wednesday. We've been cleaning the pool and she's rearranging my furniture because I got a new umbrella for over the table. It's been crazy. We get here. I'm here and Susan says, help me outside. We're moving patio furniture. lug and iron tables.

She's power washing. It's like she's having a wedding in the backyard. I said, Susan, it's Nancy and me. We don't care. No, no, I have to have it just right. Wait, one more thing. I just want to say one more thing about the trip to Jersey. First of all, Ocean Sydney, New Jersey was wonderful. I've never walked on a boardwalk. It was fabulous.

Here's the thing. I had all this luggage because I had to dress up for the pageant. Susan has a two-seater. It's a four-seater, but it's a Mercedes convertible. So it's a very small car. I've got a lot of luggage from the show

and now being heroie. Susan goes, well, just put down the top on the car and lift the luggage over. Do I need to tell y'all? People were standing in the parking lot laughing. It truly was Ethel and Lucy trying to get this luggage in the car.

Hour later, we're sweating it up. We finally got it in. Now the top won't go down. Won't go down. It will not work, right? We thought it has been broken. But it's all good now. Everything is perfect. Anyway, we are now in Philadelphia waiting for Nancy to arrive.

Yeah, we're going to have fun this week. Stay tuned because we'll talk about that as well. But one thing has changed. Dating us not changed in our life. I know. And this week, that's what we're going to talk about finding the right person and how you know if they actually are. That's something, Kathy, I'll never know because I keep trying. Okay, so another little story that just happened, which didn't even know we were going to be talking about this, a very good girlfriend of mine just called me. She's been dating this guy. He's very jealous, no matter if she talks to another client, whatever. And she keeps breaking up and going back, breaking up and going back. So I don't know. Get on a new dating app. Let's talk like, why do you keep dating the same person and think it's going to change?

Yeah, that's the story of my life. So, Kathy, if dating apps existed when we were in our 20s, do you think you would have used them? Well, I was married in my 20s. I was married. Nothing ever applies to her. She'd been married since she was born. But wait a second. Let me say to you, I think in our 20s, computers were not a thing.

Everything was more organic when you and I were young. You went to bars. That's what I'm saying. And so if dating apps had existed, I actually do think people would have used them, 20-year-olds used them now. I think I would have tried it, right? I wouldn't have tried it. I think I would have tried it. But when we were young, did you want a lot of blind dates?

Never. You know, it's so funny. You said that the only blind date I ever went on was the guy I ended up marrying. I met him on a blind date. No, you said you walked into a room and saw him across the room and said, I'm going to marry that man. That's what it was, but they had set me up. My roommate, those three knew each other. So it was just coincidental.

I looked across the room. And I guess it was sort of half a blind date. I don't know. Okay, so what's scared of you? If you've never had a blind date, what would be scared of you? Walking into a blind date or creating your own profile for a dating app? Walking into a blind date? Creating a profile is easy.

So, okay. So I've been on, would you consider a date that, a guy that you meet on a dating app? Would you consider that a blind date? No, definitely not. So I used to say when I was on the dating apps and I used to say we're going to have a meet. And then we will decide at that time whether we want to plan a date. That's not a date. Everybody think, oh, I have a date.

You didn't even meet him yet. It's not a date. Okay. And some people could tell them five minutes. It's Yeah. Well, so do you think dating apps have ruined romance? Because I think, so, you know, let's face it, a swipe is real easy, right?

You know, we'll talk about this a little bit later, but in this podcast. But swiping, I think it's like, it's almost like you're interviewing for a job. It doesn't feel romantic to me. It doesn't feel romantic. Doesn't feel romantic. And swiping to me, it's all about what I see. So it's only a picture. And more times than not, if you met somebody that wasn't as strikingly handsome to you, yet you were talking to them and got to know them, they're great.

And all of a sudden they become better looking because of their personality. Yes. That's what's lacking on the dating apps. And I feel like men and women as well don't give it any time. They don't try at all because it's so much easier to go back. There's 20,000 more out there, you know? Well, that's what I'm saying. There's such a thing as too much choice, but it also, like you just said, it makes looks

the primary thing where if you talk to someone, you might really engage with him and feel like, oh, I don't know what this guy looks like, but, you know, he's interesting. He's fun. I'd like to meet him. I don't know. To me, there's, for me, I'm not on the game. Let's get into the pet peeves. Holy smokes.

I mean, I did notice sometimes men will put pictures and you're like, okay, okay, and you're going down, you're going down, they're getting older, they're getting older. And the last one is like the real. I go, oh my God. That, that. Oh, no. Susan, the pet peeve should be when the guy puts a really good, which is what happens to me. The guy, it's a really good picture. Guys, you know, he might be in his 60s, but he's a good 60 looking. And you think, oh, this guy's good looking. Then you scroll. And you get pictures of him when he was 20 in his weenie grabber bathing suit. And then you see one picture when he's holding the grandchildren. I know, I said. But the first one really engages you. My pet peeve is not that. My pet peeve is when the guy, literally when I see a guy holding a bear can wearing a baseball cap on backwards and holding a fish.

Fish. Yep. I'll tell you, that guy's out for me. It's like, look what I caught. And I'm like, you're not catching me. Well, guess what? Hopefully, if any men or listen to or any women that have men, friends, please educate them. Don't take a selfie in the bathroom without a shirt on, especially with a towel wrapped around. Okay, yeah, you have a great body. You're flaunting it. It's stupid. We can't even take you seriously, right? So this is a podcast about video games. Kind of. It's also about friendship. Definitely. and chaos Unavoidably.

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four guys standing on a golf course. You don't know which one he is? Exactly. They have sunglasses on and, you know, their golf cap. Okay, was it, me, me, me, ma, no. Like, how do you pick one? And like, of course, I want to go after the one that looks the best and it's always the guy who is holding a dead fish that is the guy that's going to be mine. So what would you say would make a good profile for you?

Like, what, if you're scrolling? Oh, Susan, that is so easy for me. I have dated, because I have dated men who write absolutely nothing, and that is not a good dating profile. I've dated guys who wrote, you know, the next American great novel, or should I say autobiography, I'm bored in tears because then there's nothing to talk about when you meet them if I know everything about them. What I want to know when I read a guy's profile, I want to see a little humor. I want to see that the guy's adventurous. like I don't need your trip journal from the last 20 years every country you've been to. Just telling me you like to travel, maybe your favorite country.

If you like to cook, tell me some of your hobbies. One thing I love when a guy writes his idea of a perfect first date, that tells me a lot. Yes, I like that too. I like that as well. I do. So as I said, I was guilty of if somebody caught my eye a little bit, I would scroll down. then read, I want to know how tall he is. I want to know where he's located. Then I'll read his words and not until then. Because if it's too far away or, and we all know how that works with

me with the long distance thing, I'm living and learning. But it would have to be somebody that I caught my eye that I slowed down and I'd want to read about. And like I said, age, distance. Okay, so wait a minute. So for you, in your dating profile, you're absolutely going by looks. Because if I see a guy, even if he's not the best looking, but...

Yeah, that's what I said. If somebody's okay looking, I'm going to slow down and read about it. Yeah. I mean, if a guy, I'm being honest, guys, if you want a woman, unless you have a checkbook with a lot of zeros, and then you can probably have whoever you want,

not me, but you can have most other ones. women. If you have a big fat checkbook, you don't have to be fit. You don't have to do anything. Just put your bank balance as your profile and say women interest. That's right. You'll track the wrong people. Well, I do have a question for you, Kathy. When being on one of these, okay, is there such a thing as etiquette, dating app etiquette? It should be a law, actually, but Well, no, etiquette to me in dating apps. Wait, wait, you, I want to just go back in a profile. Height at our age still matters to you.

I just want to go back for one second. Yes, it does. For me, it does, yeah. How tall, how short will you go? How tall will you go? I wouldn't go my height. It would have to be at least three inches taller. Okay.

Some of them don't mind being taller than the man and God bless them. but me, I mind. That's all. Although I've shrunk, so it's not even that difficult anymore. Okay, so I am, I'm 5'8. I will date a guy 5'9. I don't care. If he's got the right personality and everything else.

So I'm out, look, height is not the important to me. I'm looking for, you know, profile, some guy that isn't writing like it's a brief for a law review, like some interest. Do you want, like, are you looking for some guy who might be funny humor? Does that matter to you at all? Oh, gosh, yes, but I can't tell that by words.

Sometimes they'll put that. If they're really good, they know how to write and they know how to express themselves. But I give most men the benefit of the doubt. They don't know how to put that on paper. So you have to have some kind of an interest and then go meet. And that's where you can tell. I'm not one to do emails or text messages or any of that. Let's do this.

Let's meet. We can meet at a coffee shop. I don't care. We can do a job. drive-by, dunk a donut tour. That's interesting. Let's see if we're interested in, you know. Okay, well, I'm still not done. On a dating app, how, do you put down your age preference? How old were you go? Yes. Yes. I go, I think I put 12 years younger, up to 10 years older.

Okay. So, so. There's not that many men left out there, so you have to expand on the age. Well, if I go 12 years older, I'm going to be behind them pushing a wheelchair for the most person. I would only do five years older. Yeah, I can't. But I also think what turns me off, and maybe it's my age. But, you know, I'm nothing to be honest. When I see a guy who's in their mid-60s, you know, 65, 68, and I think, oh, that's a good-looking guy. And then I go down.

And I have literally read this on dating app. looking for women from 50 to 58. And then I go back and I go, wait a minute. So that guy for me, even though I'm out at that age range. Yeah, you can't even message that guy because we're out of the. Oh, no. Sometimes I'll see it. I'll see it.

But it's interesting to me that on dating apps, men often put such particulars that they want. I don't find that too much. Well, that's because you're in Philly. And I don't put that too much even for my own when I have a dating app. I don't, you know, because it's just words. Are you on dating apps? Do you have dating apps? I'm not on dating apps right now.

No, took a break, took a break. Okay. Let's see. Atticette, back to your question by etiquette. Who do you think should send the first message? I think either person can send. I have sent the first message. I've received the first message.

The hard part for me is when I send up the first message, I would say 75% of the time I get a response and then we start talking. I don't think, I think we're in a modern era where you can send out the first text. I'm so proud of that, Kathy. Do you not do it? She is my old school girlfriend and I am very proud. I'm in Philly. When in Philly do as Philadelphians do.

I told you I will send the first message or not either way. I'm asking you if you will ever send a first message. Most definitely. I feel like if I swipe somebody that I liked and then it's a match, of course, I'm going to send it out. Who knows when he swiped and, you know, he didn't see I was a match or anything. He might have given up by then. Yeah.

Here's where you and I are going to differ. Here's, okay, here's where you and I are going to differ. I will chat a couple of times. I've honestly gone, I told you, I have a Google phone number. So I will chat in the app once or twice. Then I'll say, you know what? Here's my phone number. Let's chat in the phone.

And oftentimes, once I've had that phone chat, I can tell whether or not I want to meet them. What do you do? How quickly do you meet them sooner rather than later? even for five minutes. Just let's get a quick cup of coffee. It's easy. You go in, get a cup of coffee, you chat for a minute,

and let's set up a date. If we like each other, the chemistry feels good, then okay, let's set, get your calendar out, I'll get mine now. I don't think that's difficult at all. I don't think it's difficult

if you want to meet them. Yeah, but I don't want to waste anybody's time. So if you couldn't, by the phone, I've chatted with people and I was really excited. Yeah, and then you go and it was a disappointment. So I'd rather just get the eye-to-eye contact is what I'm about. Okay, you know, Susan, I'm hitting you with the question here.

Be honest. Okay. When you've met up with somebody and it's a no. And be honest, you said a five-minute cup of coffee. You can't even drink a cup of coffee in five minutes. What is the shortest date you've ever had when you met a guy? Probably 15 minutes. That you didn't want to see again, I mean.

Yeah, 15, 20 minutes. Yeah. And at the end of that, you say what? Well, I don't think we're going to make it. What do you say? Here's where I'm guilty. I'm going to be honest because I'm 69 years old and honesty is the best way to go. Don't judge me or judge me.

I don't care. Yes, I feel bad sometimes when I know I'm not interested, but not 100%. There was no ick. I just didn't really think I was going to want to. but if they ask, not everybody asks. Sometimes it's mutual. Sometimes we'll go, well, we'll text each other and let each other know, you know, think about it or whatever.

And that's the easy way out. This is why I don't understand why men can't take the easy way out and send a little message. Just didn't feel the spark. Just nodded that into you. I'm sorry. I'm glad we met, but I'm not feeling it. Whatever.

A text is easy. And you haven't spent time with somebody. So sometimes I'd say, yeah, let's get, yeah, sure, text me. And then when they do, then I say it because I feel bad telling them face to face. I don't think that's bad. I think that allows them and you to save face. Okay, do you think you should and do you date multiple people at once? I'm not against other people.

I guess they do it. I don't understand it. I don't date multiple people. I'm a one-on-one person. I feel like if you, want to date me, then you date me until you make a decision whether you want to be with me or not. But you can't date me on Friday night and date Kathy on Saturday night and then Wednesday night call Nancy. That doesn't work. Well, listen, if they date you Friday at me Saturday night,

you're out of the picture and they're never calling Nancy. I'm it. No, here's what I... That's the only old school values that I hold. I was going to say because you and I, as much as we love each other. We are different on several things. I think unless, and I've done it a few times, it's hard to keep, you know, Jim and John, you know, I might mix up the names, but I think until you're actually dating someone you really like, I used to think when I first got on dating apps, date them until you don't want to date them, then go back to the app. But in the most recent time I've been on dating up, I have to be honest, I had a couple of dates with different guys. Because I figure, you know, why limit it, see if you like the guy.

And then if I've gone out with them a few times, then I say goodbye to the other one. I don't think either way is wrong, though. I think you can do it either way. I guess. And for me, what I don't know don't hurt me, so I wouldn't want to know. Yeah. Okay, Susan. Yeah.

Honest engine, because I will be honest as well. Have you ever Googled someone before a first day? Not until I met you. What the hell does that mean? I never did that, didn't want to know. And you always say, you got to find out this. Or my other girlfriend says she's in real estate. And she goes, oh, I could find out this.

This is. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's a lot. That's a lot. I find out, let me just tell you something, especially if you're going to die when I say this. But, gosh, you all know out there that Kathy speaks truth. When I'm interested in a guy and I can tell sometimes by their profile, if I like, their humor if I like what their career was, if I like their attitude. And then if I've talked to him on the phone one time and we're going to meet up, oh yes. I too, Susan, have a friend.

And I call my friend and I find out, I have found out everything. They're ex-wives, where they, how many homes, where they lived, if they've ever been arrested. Why do you need so much info? Because I don't want to waste time on someone that, you know, has a ward out for his arrest in six states. You know, right? what I mean. So I find out. I find out. I find out. And there was one guy I found out and I was called when we were set up the date. I said, you know, I was nice about it. I said, I've done some more thinking and I actually don't think we're a very good match. And you know, why I'm able to do that? Because I have a Google phone number. And Google is not paying me to say this,

folks, but Google, you can't trace. So when a guy calls me on my Google phone number, he cannot find out anything about me. I don't give a guy my real phone number until I'm really interested. Do you think that's fair that you can Google them and they can't Google you? Yes, fair. Go get a Google phone number, buddy, if you don't want me to find you out of my name. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. All right. Now, how about if each of us, I don't know even though how I'm going to do this, but come up with a dating app hot take. Talk to me about what would be a hot take for a dating app. Okay. I wish I could just own one. because I do things a lot different.

Real, you, but that's what you know I should do, Susan. Okay, one of my hot takes a lot. We already talked about a little bit. You know, the men that put pictures from antiquity on their profile, and I'm looking and I'm going, yeah, you wish you look like that. That is a hot take that men do not for the most. And women, too. I shouldn't just say men.

I've seen women who, you know, are 40 pounds heavier or thinner, whatever it is, they don't look like their pictures. I think my biggest hot take for me is that women, men in their 60s, if they even know how to get on a dating app or take pictures that aren't sideways, men just aren't really computer savvy. They're not app savvy. So it's hard. There's more women on dating apps than men at all ages, I think. Yeah, and some that try to get on don't really know what they're doing. and they're embarrassed to tell another,

do you take my picture for a dating app? I mean, the younger people don't think twice about it, but people are aged. It's something that's out of the comfort zone. So I would like my hot take would be as a senior, an older dating app, and I know they have them out there, right? Well, there are.

Help the people with their profile. Who's going to help them? Because sometimes they don't know how to take a picture. Nobody told the guy, don't do it in the bathroom because there's a mirror or in the restroom at the gas station. Keep the fish out of it. Although, Kathy, when you said the fish part, if that's what they're into, that's their life, maybe the fish thing is a couple pictures in. You know that we know that ahead of time. Susan, let me just say, if all the guys that have swiped on me that I've looked at, as many of them are as holding.

fish, if they are all serious deep sea fishermen and it's not just a vacation pick, the ocean should be devoid of fish in, oh, probably another five minutes. I mean, no way. I'm not buying it. They just think, hey, look at me. I'm manly. Look at this, you know, 18-inch con that I caught. You know, whatever? You know what I'd love to do, Susan? I swear to God, we should do this. We're going to run a boat. We're going to go out and we're going to somehow catch a a shark and we're going to say freak outy I want no parts of it no way I was on my friend's

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Listen to Paul's best podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What is the funniest or oddest or most bizarre excuse someone ever gave you for flaking on a date? Okay, so the truth is I have actually never. had a date flake out on me. I just haven't had that. But I have gotten out of some bad dates in very humorous ways, do you want to hear? Wait, were you already on the date? Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. So when I first started dating, I didn't know. You know, I was married for almost 46 years. I had no idea what I was doing. So I would give either one of my kids or a friend tell them what was up and say, I'm going to text you.

I'd go to the bathroom and I'd say, it's all good. You don't have to call or 911 call me. So I'd go back to the table. And this one time, it was the 911, get me the hell out of here. So I went back to the table and I said, give me five minutes so it doesn't look bad. Five minutes later, my phone rings. It's my friend. It's not my kid.

I answer it and I went, hello? Oh, I said to the date, I'm sorry. I have to answer this call. I don't remember what I said, but I said, I had a damn call. And I answered, I went, you're, oh my God, are you, okay, okay, calm down. Calm down. Make it sound good. I will be the, yes, no, it's okay.

He'll certainly understand. It's okay. Literally, because you know me, Susan, I can like, I can do it on the spur of the moment. And I hung up. I said, I'm so sorry, John, Tom, whatever your name is. my daughter has had an emergency, she's pregnant, and I don't know if she's going to labor. I have to go. Her husband's out of town. I need to go. I am so sorry. I'd love to pay for the minute, you know, whatever. Got up and I was out of there in five minutes. Have you ever done it?

By the way, it worked like a charm. I usually go to the bathroom and my phone's blowing up and I have to give them a heads up like a thumbs up or, you know, it's okay, but I'm good because most of it was about they were paranoid. I was safe or not. So I do that. But I don't think I've ever, I cut it short and said, listen. See, I'm not good at that. You and I've talked about this. I'm not really good at looking at my watch and saying, gee, it's getting late. I'm not really good at that. I, and I don't remember, this was when I first started dating. And when you haven't dated in a long time, navigating those waters are not easy. And then I feel uncomfortable. Was I not. there to hurt anyone's fear. And I don't remember who this guy was, but I remember talking about,

I met him on a dating app, and I remember he sat there on this, this was our first date, talking about how I was the woman he was looking for, and I thought, oh, this is not happening. So I will, so what about you? Do you have a good story for me? No, that's pretty much it. I, like I said, give the thumbs up in the bathroom or I can't wait to get out of here kind of thing. And I just speed it up. I'm finished my dinner and I ask for coffee and get me out of here. You know, I don't think, I think sometimes, before we move on to the next section, I got to say this. I think sometimes some men are so clueless and or desperate to find a partner.

And I'm guessing some women are too, but you and I are, we want the right guy or we don't want a guy. And so I know you don't waste time. I don't waste time, but I don't want to be mean about it. I want to get out of graceful. No, and I don't want to waste anyone else's time. That's what I'm saying. We talked about that before, about at the end of the date, when I always say, no, no, no, no, I insist.

Let me pay for my share, you know, because if I know I'm never going to see them again, I'm not dating for dinners or appetizers and drinks, you know. Yeah, I'm with you. Anyhow. Oh, gosh. All right. Well, on that happy note, every week, we answer, questions from listeners. Y'all know that and we give them some expert golden advice.

We have a doozy of a question here tonight. Susan, we are here for us? And this is from Maisie and she's from Scottsdale. I keep seeing the same people on dating apps year after year. At this point, I know their jobs, their dogs names and which photos they've been recycling since 2021. Is this just the reality? of modern dating, or should I take it as a sign that everyone worth dating has already left the apps? You know, Kathy, it's funny. After a few year break and I go back on, they're the same people.

Nothing's changed. They don't even update their app. I mean, their profile. Well, first of all, Maisie, you're in Scottsdale, so go hang out of golf course and you'll find some great guys. That's my first advice to you. I think there are a lot of repeat offenders on the apps, but I also think that at our age,

it's tough to find the person you're looking for. Sure, it is. So those guys that are still on are maybe... There's not enough people our age on. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And so you and I specifically, we're looking for a special guy who matches our energy and all that, right?

Well, there aren't that many guys. So we look at them or like that guy's been here because that guy's been here. Maybe he just doesn't know how to date. Maybe he doesn't. Yeah. And you know what, guys, those of you listen, if you have a story for us, you know what to do. Send that story in or your question in. Bachelornation.com slash golden hour.

Hold on. We would take that in a minute. Wait a second. Hold on. Are you saying that if a guy has been there since 2021 and he sent us up his story, you're going for that guy? No, I'm saying people out there listening to these stories. If they have a story that we'd like to talk about, we will share it.

Like, this is funny. You know what I mean? Got it. I'm just reminding them where to send it. Yeah, not just your stories. We want your questions. your comments. We want it all. And by the way, we might actually answer your question and we definitely want to hear your stories. All right. Here we go. We got a game. Okay. You ready? Yep.

All right. We're going to tell each other what their answer should be based off the prompt that we say. All right. So Kathy's profile for me. Susan will brag about you to her friends if you are handsome have a home in the Hamptons and a very large checkbook. All right, here's the next one. It's fun. All right. Susan is weirdly attracted to men who can dance and cook. That's a good one. That one you got.

The first one you're wrong. But go ahead. The key to her heart is giving her lots and lots. And lots, how much time do we have of attention? Very good. All right, you go. Okay. Susan's out for Kathy.

Kathy goes crazy for... Smart men that have had a successful career. That's all? How about kind? All right. Well, that's what I first thought of. All right. Go ahead.

Go to the next one. Kathy's biggest pet peeve is. You got a lot of them. Somebody that doesn't tell the truth, somebody that can't afford life, somebody that says he's a go-getter and a doer and he sits on the couch. What's your phrase that you say? I used to be guy. I used to guy.

Now, my biggest pet peeve is a guy who says he's, it's a, it's a, They used to write one who says he's all that. All right. Kathy, answer nicely, Susan. Kathy winds down by. Pouring a glass of wine and having some nuts. Or, she's right. Or chat with a good friend.

Yeah, they're getting all the phone. That's so true. Or needlepoint. All right. Well, there's, you know, we can play that game again. There's so many more. Again, let's read dude Susan's first one. Susan will brag about you.

to her friends if you are kind and generous to her no okay what i would say to that okay what if you make her laugh susan everyone makes you laugh no i make everyone laugh but somebody that makes me laugh and can dance forget about i'm going to brag about you we had so much fun really that's it if they make you laugh i love a man that could make me laugh well so why but i would not say that's the first one thing. I wouldn't. No, it's not the first. It's saying I would brag about him to my friends. I don't know. When I had met Fred a long time ago, I bragged, oh my God, it was so great. We laughed. We couldn't understand each other. We dance. It was like, that's why I said, a guy who will give you a lot of attention who will cook for you. Yes. The attention part was

definitely right. Listen, now that we know what our profiles are for each other, Send somebody our way. Thank you, please. And in the meantime, thank you all for joining us for Bachelor Golden Hour. It's always so much fun. It definitely is. And you guys hear me every week. So I'm going to do it again.

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You know what? You and are going to have so much fun. We're going to do a live podcast there. But until next week, until we see you again, Susan and I will both be winding down right here in Philly. I think I got to open the wine. I'm going to cook her dinner, though, actually. So we will see you next week. Take care, everybody.

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