Bachelor Happy Hour - Kelly Bensimon: ‘The Golden Life,’ Bethenny Frankel, and More | Golden Hour

Episode Date: July 30, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” we have our friend and “Real Housewives of New York” icon Kelly Bensimon! Kelly is here to catch us up on everything going on in her life. From selling ...a $22 million home to reuniting with her “Ultimate Girls Trip” crew, there is so much to discuss. We get into her past drama with Bethenny Frankel; what’s Kelly’s POV after all this time? We also dive into her dating life and she helps dish out some advice to our listeners. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:57 I don't want to hear about your beach vacates when I'm sitting at home sweating to death. So I'm going to go ahead and introduce our very special guests this week from the Real Housewives of New York alum. Kelly Ben Simone, how are you, Kelly? It's so good to see you. Hi, Kathy. I miss you guys. Hi, girls. My friends.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Fun girls. Kathy and Susan. Oh, my gosh. It's been a minute. I know. You guys look great. We dressed to match. You look fantastic.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Love it. What's going on with you? Yeah, give us a catch up here. What have you been up to? So I literally woke up at 4 this morning, and right now I'm in Sarasota, Florida, doing an open house and selling one of my properties down here for $22 million, which is exciting. Wait a minute, Kelly, you were not supposed to tell anyone that I was buying that property. Kathy, come on. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:03:50 I am. I am. Yes. And then, you know, back in New York and working on all my brand partnerships, which has been so much fun. And then I just finished filming The Golden Life on E in Palm Beach, which was so much fun. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:04:10 That's what, okay, first of all, tell me, are you still living in New York, right? I am still living in New York. I was just in Palm Beach for two months. Okay. And what is that? Tell me what the theme of that show is. So basically what E did is they got,
Starting point is 00:04:30 Ramona singer Sonia Morgan, Dorinda Medley, Countess Luan, and myself together again after we were on Ultimate Girlship, now we are in Palm Beach, and we are living it up, and it is living it up. Kathy, see, you see, Kathy, we need a show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Well, we definitely need a show. You should invite us. Oh, you guys definitely need a show. You guys are unbelievable. I mean, I've spent time with you. I know how fantastic. We be a hoot. And the energy.
Starting point is 00:05:00 you guys have. I thought I had energy. You guys were like showing me up. So wait, well, you know, we got to go. We have questions from way back when. Okay. Let me start there. If you know, oh yeah, let's go. First and foremost, it was it an immediate yes when you were asked? And how did Bravo find you? Like, what did they say to you? Is that the first time you heard anything about the show, the Housewives? So we were in talking. with Bravo after Ultimate Girls trip and they were just, you know, kind of talking about, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:36 the legacy, real housewives legacy and what they were going to do with Real Housewives. And when E came to me and said, we really, I think I was the second person they asked after Jill Zeran. And they just were like, we want to do this with you.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And I was at Swim Week. I was walking in Swim Week in Miami. I hadn't modeled, you know, walked as a model. for 20 years. And so I was so excited. And then I'm like, wait a minute, you want me to be on this show? I was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:06:09 what do I have to lose? I mean, everything. No, just kidding. No. It never ends. Like, it's endless. Wait, I just want to go back for a minute. You had a publishing career with L, right?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yes. Yes. I started Elle accessories. I was a founding editor of L accessories, and I also started a magazine called Gotham magazine. and I've written seven books. So I've written four anthologies for Asseline, one for Anna Wintour at the Met,
Starting point is 00:06:37 to the history of the illustrious Hamptons. And then I wrote the bikini book for Lycra to open Miami Swim Week, which was the last time I walked in Swim Week was right after I've written the bikini book. You should be so proud of yourself. Really? What's the favorite? What's the favorite thing you've done?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Raising my kids. Oh. Raised my little rabbit girls. My little princesses love them. How old are they now? So now my youngest is 25 and my oldest is 28. God bless, God bless. God bless.
Starting point is 00:07:14 When you first went on housewife, did you feel like the new person or did you bond with anybody immediately that made you feel right at home? Tell us about that experience. So I was the new person on the block. And when I was asked to be on the show, they were like, we're really having problems
Starting point is 00:07:33 legitimizing this brand. When you come on the show, I was supposed to be on another show with Tim Gunn. And I was like, sure, why not? I have nothing to lose. I just gotten divorced. You know, I knew that I was going to be, you know, I was going to have to start to make a lot of money
Starting point is 00:07:48 because I, you know, children, you know, high school, college to pay for. And I was really ready to branch. And, you know, instead of being, I was a model for a long time and then being the editor really behind the scenes and kind of, you know, conducting the orchestra, if you will. I knew I had to be more front-facing. So when I was on, I'm like, well, why not? And was there anybody in particular that made you feel comfortable when you went on the show? So my first meeting was with Luann.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And, you know, she was living this, you know, very, like, rock star life. style, you know, St. Trope and the Hamptons and Loving Life. And I had just finished my fifth book. And I was the editor of three magazines at the time. And I had, you know, two very, very young girls who were five and eight. So we were a little bit different places in our lives. And she was very sweet. And I, you know, I don't think she really understood, like, who I actually was at the time.
Starting point is 00:08:57 because she was like, oh, you ride horses. My daughter rides horses. I'm like, well, I ride horses, but I, you know, I am an absolute workhorse right now. Yeah. I want to go back to your kids for a minute because you have done, you have had so many, a storied career and you're not done yet. What did your kids, obviously you just said 25 and 28, what did your kids think of all the things that you've done, being on reality TV, being a swimsuit model?
Starting point is 00:09:27 being, you know, being really out in the public. How do your kids take it then and how do they take it now? So I think back then they were just like mommy's working. They, you know, it's like they understood that, you know, when they went to bed, I was writing. When I went to, you know, work, they knew I where I was. And because I was the mother and the father for them, like they knew where I was all the time. They knew I was a model.
Starting point is 00:09:55 They, you know, they knew all of these things. and so they were, you know, they were raised in the entertainment business. I mean, their dad was a photographer. I was an editor. I was a model. So they weren't, it wasn't like they were, they just like they knew that their mom did other things that wasn't like, hey, I go to an office and I am in finance.
Starting point is 00:10:20 They knew that. So it wasn't something that they didn't understand. And also, you know, in New York City, like we, they went to this small private preschool where there were a lot of, you know, women and parents, mothers and fathers who were in the entertainment business. So it wasn't like they were, you know, it was unusual. I mean, I think if it was like they were raised in Rockford, Illinois, they'd be like, mom, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. Well, that's, you know, kids know what they grow up with, right? Kids know what they grow up with. Exactly, exactly, the way that they're nurtured, exactly. And that was their environment and a lot of their friends were like that as well. So, yeah. But good question. Well, I just, you know, my kids are grown, Kelly.
Starting point is 00:11:05 My kids are grown. And quite honestly, my two sons were like, you go for, Mom, do. And my daughter was appalled in the beginning. So I was just curious, you know, what your kids thought. Wait, I think that's a really astute comment because a lot of parents, you know, a lot of people say, like, oh, my God, were your kids upset that you were modeling? I used to take them with me on trips wherever I would go.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I mean, my youngest and my oldest, since they were, you know, two months old, they were flying with me everywhere. And I also had my parents with us. And so when I would go model, I would take my kids and my parents. So they were like going all over the place. Hawaii, Italy, parrot,
Starting point is 00:11:49 all over the place. They were loving life. Yeah. So, and it was normal for them. Right. sounds unusual for the for it's like me saying it because I'm from rockford Illinois is like that's very strange but for them they're from New York City and their mom's Kelly Ben Simone so they don't see it like that it's like what you know yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:12:08 yeah it's normalized for them yeah um speaking of New York City and and and real housewives of New York I was on Bethany Frankel's podcast quite a while ago and you know I probably have as much spunk as she does as Susan does as you have have. So one of your biggest Housewives' storylines was your feud with her. Yes. Years later, does it feel like the conflict was inevitable? Was it because the cameras were there? Because, you know, I had my own little fun with Teresa, but not anything like Real Housewives of New York.
Starting point is 00:12:48 What says you, Kelly? It's what says me, Kathy. So, you know, it was actually super interesting because she came from a very wealthy family wealthier than my family my parents were my father was a lawyer very very wealthy family went to the best schools like literally like a very very expensive college in boston and i went to college in connecticut and then college in new york you know but she went to a very expensive day school in boca rotan i just learned all this later on in life people were like oh that's that's a lie i'm like i don't you know it's not my job to tell like what people's past you know and i just thought it was
Starting point is 00:13:26 fascinated that she was just like, you're Kelly Bensonmon. I'm like, who is that? I'm like, first of all, that's not my name. My name is Kelly Colloran Ben Simone. So, Kelly Benson is not my name. And, you know, the time that she met me, I was working at page six.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And, you know, my kids were young, and I was also, you know, working in the magazine business. And so I was just leading a different life. And, I think that she thought it was something. No, I'm single, you're single.
Starting point is 00:14:00 The only difference is that I'm a single parent with two children and you're single. But it's funny because like after being an ID Pro 2 for so long, you know, now it's like I'm like, she's like, she's literally like a jilted lover. What does that mean a jilted lover? A jilted lover is someone that just can't get over. Get over what? Anything? The relationship. Get over the relationship.
Starting point is 00:14:24 relationship. I'm like, yeah, it's like she just can't get over it. She can't get over that I, you know, have done well despite everything that she tried to do to, you know, hurt my kids and my family, which is weird. It's very weird. I was like, I don't know who you are. I just obviously wish her well and her daughter well. I'm like, stay away. Please. It's, it's funny that, you know, you both have found success in different ways, but that that kind of stuff happens. We all want to believe it is because we all want to believe that. women support women and then you have these claws that are the size of Manhattan that come out coming out but just for no reason I was just like I mean I I didn't date your boyfriend I didn't steal your you know I had nothing like we had nothing to fight about like I you know I didn't steal your sandwich in the lunchroom you know I I'm like I don't know what you're talking about but wait did you make fun in the girl shower room right and I would say like I have no idea what you're talking about. She's like, yeah, you're crazy. I'm like, okay, thousand percent.
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Starting point is 00:20:05 Were you ever a big reality TV fan prior to being on reality TV? And if so, what's your favorite? That's a great question. So I never watched Housewives because I was, you know, I'm a writer. And so it's my job to literally like know everything about everyone before, you know, to know the answers to the test. That's my job. And so I was just like, you know, let me just have.
Starting point is 00:20:32 fun with this. Let me just enjoy myself. I mean, I've been like, you know, working for so many years. Let me just see and have a good time and show people that you can raise kids on your own and work hard and make some sand angels and just have a good time. Well, that backfire. People were like, really? You work? And my favorite show was the Kardashians. I love the Kardashians. I was a past. Oh, God. Do you, would you do, I know you just filmed one, but what is your future with reality TV? Would you keep doing shows? I think that being in reality TV right now in this stage of my life is crucial because I'm going through so many different things.
Starting point is 00:21:17 This morning, I woke up at 4.30 in the morning. I got on a plane, went to Sarasota. I'm selling this $22 million property, creating all this content with my celebrity chef, Andrew Mullen. You know, just really in the thick of everything, meeting all these new people every single day. And then I'm on my, you know, life's journey of finding love and that next chapter. And also, you know, this age, this maturation age of our girls and boys in the early 20s is really, really, really challenging. And just to be able to kind of talk about all those aspects of my life, you know, if it helps one person, that's amazing. And we feel like at our age, same thing.
Starting point is 00:22:03 If we're helping people our age, it's all worth it. You're at a younger age, different experiences. But, I mean, seriously, if you're selling a $25 million house, why not just sit on the beach for a month and take a break? Because that's not me. It's like when you guys met me in 2009, I was ahead of three magazines. Yeah. Wait, I want to know you brought up.
Starting point is 00:22:29 we're not letting you off the whole care, Kelly. I heard you say something about finding love. I thought we met someone. We did. And we did. We did. So I met someone that was fantastic. That's what, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I had a health. I know, and I had a health issue. And he really didn't show up. And I just was like, that was it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I get it.
Starting point is 00:22:54 The showing up is everything for me. Yep. He has to show up. How long were you with him? Six months. And he's a great guy, but he just doesn't show up. And it doesn't matter how nice I think you are. If you're not showing up, you're not showing up.
Starting point is 00:23:13 So wait, let me ask you something. Good for you. Yes, we are applauding you. But I have a question, Kelly. You are very successful in a variety of different avenues. I mean, modeling, cooking. Thank you. All those things.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Real estate. Do you find it hard to find someone who's interested in you because you are a lovely, beautiful person and you are. You're fun to be with. Forget all that stuff you do. How has it been trying to find a guy who wants to get to know you and not integrate himself into all these fabulous things that you're doing? I really appreciate that, Kathy, because it's kind of like when I'm.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I was on housewives where people thought that they were that they were meeting Kelly Ben Simone when the person they were meeting on television was Kelly Colloran from Rockford, Illinois. And they were like, why does this girl want to do Sand Angels? Why is she, you know, having fun with her life? Why is she, you know, curious to meet people? I thought she was Kelly Ben Simone. So they think they're meeting somebody or they think they're with someone that they're not. And, you know, I'm, like, I'm an introvert, but I'm also an extrovert. Like, I love to, like, sit home and read as many books as I can, but then I also like to see my friends.
Starting point is 00:24:39 You know, I think the most important thing for me is, and, I mean, this is, it's a testament to my children, is spending time with people that I care about is paramount to, you know, that's what, that's my impetus. And they think it's just like blowouts and high heels and bikinis. It's not. It's, you know, my friends, my family and, you know, my culture. Yeah. Good for you. I really do applaud that.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But it begs the question then, how do you find people that want to know the full scope of who you are? How do you meet those people? Well, that's the problem is I meet them. And then I'm like, I can, like, I get, like, feeling. It's called intuition. Right, yeah, it's called woman's intuition. Yeah, exactly. They'll be like, what are we doing tonight?
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm like, I have to go to this. They'll be like, oh, what about tomorrow? I'm like, I'm doing that. I have to do these certain things. But I'm like, but, you know, you can, we can watch TV. Oh, no, no, I don't want to do that. I'm like, wait a minute, what? Or they're like, can we go to this restaurant?
Starting point is 00:25:52 I'm like, I'd rather know. If you want my honest opinion. Let's stay home and cook. Yeah. Yeah. Cook for me. Exactly. I was going to say, not us cook.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Let him cook for you, Kelly. Oh, yeah. Please don't have me cook. Otherwise, it's going to be really bad. Do you do dating apps, Kelly? I do. So I'm on Hinge and Ryan right now. And it's just interesting, the different kinds of people.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And I've had some really unlucky situations. Like, I'll meet a guy, and then he's, like, cheating on me with his ex-girlfriend. I'm like, you do know that I have a lot of people that know me and that text me pictures. And they say, is this you? You can't get away from. I'm like, that is not me. Wait, what excuse do they say? Oh, no, that was taken 10 years ago with my cousin Louise.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I mean, what do they say? Yeah, Louise, my cousin Louise, exactly. Well, I think, too, they think that I think what they're doing, if you want my honest opinion, Kathy and Susan, is that they are testing me. They're testing me to see if I'm going to do that. And, you know, cheaters are going to cheat. That's like the law, right? But I'm not a cheater. Like, I've been cheated on.
Starting point is 00:27:01 You are giving men way too much credit. If you think that men sit down and say, Kelly and Simone is the most beautiful, successful woman. And I really like to date her. But first, I'm going to test her, and I'm going to see if she passes my green flag test. No, but they do. I had a guy say, oh, you know, fighting with you was fun.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I'm like, I don't fight with men. I negotiate for a living. I don't negotiate with men. Like, that's not what I do. I have a twin brother. I know how to talk to men. I know how to treat men. I know what men are.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Right. I mean, I'm like, no, no, no. I don't test men and I don't spar with men. That's not my vibe. All right. So if that's your biggest red flag that you don't do, what's your biggest green flag with guys? I don't know, Kathy.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Susan, what's my green flag? I don't know. A little bit of humor. I'm just a very nice person. I mean, I just think people, we've gotten to know you on a few trips and you, I really don't know your professional life very well, but I know
Starting point is 00:28:07 you as a warm, friendly, interesting, beautiful woman. So I'm just curious. You guys are making me feel so good today. I mean, I am. We found it immediately, all of us. Yeah, but Kelly, I've got an ulterior motive here.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I want you to send the older guys that you dish away. See, you're too old to me. I want you to send them to me. But not the one that didn't show off. No, not him. And not the cheaters. But if you've got, you know. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And the inbox just got empty. Right. No, exactly. No, I mean, I'm a very warm person. I'm a very loving person. And I'm a very committed person to a relationship. I make my men my priority. I mean, obviously my children are my priority,
Starting point is 00:28:54 but they are also my priority. I definitely make them feel like they're the only person in the room. I want men to feel great. I want them to look better. I want them to feel better. I want them to meet interesting people. I want them to be engaged. I want them to be excited.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You know, I want them to want to have a great life with me. Like, I don't want them to be like on board or I don't be around you or I don't want to do this. Like, I don't want that. Want them to have fun. Who does? So I'm going to guess that one of your deal breakers, one of them has to be a guy who doesn't show up for you. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Well, first of all, I have to be a good father. If you're not a good father, I can't talk to you. If you come to me and you say, I have problems with my kids, I'm going to say, I'm going to have problems with you. If somebody says I have problems with my kids or I have issues with my children or whatever, I'm like, none of that's not. Or if they talk badly about their exes, I really. Absolutely. Absolutely. If men talk bad about your ex, they're going to talk badly about me.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Yeah. I mean. See, we all think the same things. Right. I mean, literally, if I could tell you guys, Susan and Kathy, how many guys that I've gone out with, their girlfriends, like, DM me on Instagram and they're like, I need to ask you this question. This happened to me. I'm like, we're not teammates. What is going on?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Oh, like, what? I'm like, wait a minute, because we don't, we're not in a relationship by osmosis because I know this person or I went out a few days. I don't know the answer to that. Yeah. I don't know how he is with you. Is that funny, though? I'm like, oh, my God, it makes me laugh. Well, I love.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I have a girlfriend right now who's going through a breakup, but it's exactly, she gets, she's also pretty well known in this town in Austin. And she gets emails or texts from friends of friends, just thought you might want to. know and starts like they're like you said like they're all in the same team like no no we're not no no no no and then it's my favorite it's like woman to woman no no no no do not say woman to woman because woman to woman to woman would not send a text like that that's right and if you knew me you would ask but if honestly at the end of the day i think this is really good advice for anyone in a relationship the only person that's in a relationship is are the two people a relationship is with two people not with 9000 And so if you want to ask someone something, it should be that other person.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Like asking me something, I just was like, I hope you're well. Like, I'm sorry that you're going through those moments. I know it's hard, but I just hope you're well. Like, I am not interested in commiserating. Yeah. And those are things that she has to figure out her lines in the sand. Yeah. Like I know mine, but those have to be hers too.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. I don't disagree with one thing you're saying. Like, he cheated on me. It's fine. I want to be with him. And other people are like, I never want to see him again. You know, I mean, everybody has their... Everyone's got their thing for love.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah. Before we leave relationships, I want to, because we want, you to help us answer some of our questions that we have here. But you have, you know, you've been married, you've been divorced. As I say, you've had destroyed careers doing lots of things. What kind of guy are you looking for now? How is your dream guy, if you will? How do you describe him? My dream man is someone who loves his family.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Someone who sees me as a value ad and not as a competition. And someone who wants to build something together. Like I want to build a life together. I don't want to piggyback. Not in front of you, not behind you. Yeah, just, yeah, we're walking together, doing things together. I'm not intimidated by a lot of people. I definitely don't want them to be intimidated by the people that I know.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I want them to walk next to me and have a great time. Be a team. And you know what, Kelly. You know, make some sand angels and have a good time. Yes. You know, eat too many cookies on a Friday night. I don't know. Have a good time.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Like, drink too much when you want. Like pizza night, bottle of wine. Just enjoy your life. That's what I want. That's all. I'm not asking for a lot. I'm not asking for a yacht. I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It wouldn't be a bad thing, Kelly, now. If they have a yacht, it's okay. Well, I also say, I mean, definitely, they have to be a similar financial situation because that's not fair. It's just, it's too much, too much stress. It's too much stress for me. Exactly. Like, I'm already working.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I don't need to bring someone along. It's just, I can't do that. And I've tried, but that doesn't work. So this is a podcast about video games. Kind of. It's also about friendship. Definitely. And chaos.
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Starting point is 00:33:51 If you win a game on easy mode, we support you. If you've never touched a controller, honestly, same energy for some of us. It's fun, it's chaotic, it's friendship with a loose gaming theme. And somehow we keep getting away with it. You should listen.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Stream it's dangerous to go alone on the free Iheart radio app. Or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Munga Shat Together and I'm back with a new season of the podcast, Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain, as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. To make it look more defined. They say it works.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Levei, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Joshua Hami, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more. Check out my new episode with Phineas.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So I went home and I asked Billy if she wanted to sing it. she immediately made it her own thing. No faith. You really know how to make me cry when you give me those oceans. So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to playing along on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. This season, we've got some awesome guests ready to dole out advice. Guests like Tiffany Haddish.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Kind of slide into people's DMs. I like Bumble. Also, girl, Farmers Only.com. At state sales, funerals, auctions are usually good. There's a lot of good men there. Grocery stores near gyms. Darcy Cardin. I remember being like, I know this is good advice, but like, I really don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:36:35 So you didn't take her advice? I didn't take her advice. Are you still friends with that woman? No. She actually was kind of toxic. Neil degrass Tyson. I spent my whole life looking up. I was a geek kid.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I had a telescope at age 12. And so... So you didn't have sex for a long time. Sherry O'Terry. Were you a soap opera person? Young and restless. Okay. Well, first of all, you should know it's the young and the restless.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I can't even believe you're mispronouncing the title. Some of us abbreviated because we've been... So we've been so many years. T.S. Madison. Are you into Polly? No, no. I don't think so. No.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I could have told you no on that. Girl, why do you not into Polly? Just based on what she's wearing and the way her hair is styled. She is not in a Polly. Traop Holly. Anna Ferris, Dave Franco, Madeline Klein, Hannah Gadsby,
Starting point is 00:37:24 Adam Scott, Wanda Sykes, and more. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember,
Starting point is 00:37:37 always be generous with the net may. Just eyeball it. Okay. Mom's wisdom has served you well, but now it may be your turn to guide her. Hey, I'm worried about mom. She keeps forgetting her famous sweet potato pie recipe.
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Starting point is 00:38:23 Yes. Already. The first one. My boyfriend is thoughtful, affectionate, and treats me wonderfully when it's just the two of us. But whenever we're with his friends, he turns into a different person. He'll make jokes at my expense
Starting point is 00:38:40 or tell embarrassing stories about me because everyone laughs. He always says he's kidding and that I need to lighten up. But afterward, I always feel hurt. Am I taking harmless jokes to personally, or is there a respectful way to tell him
Starting point is 00:39:03 that his sense of humor is damaging our relationship? And this is from Megan, from Austin. Hi, Megan, hi Austin. Oh, 100%. He's, that's a red flag. If a man is making fun of you publicly, to knock you down to better himself, that is awful.
Starting point is 00:39:28 It's awful. He should be building you up. She's so gorgeous. She's so talented. Look how great she is. She's the best this. She's the best that. But in any relationship,
Starting point is 00:39:37 male, female, whatever, any human that doesn't make another human feel, empower their superpowers, who wants that? There's too many, there's a lot of people on this earth. Like, no, that's not the vibe. And I'm sorry, I'm sure you think he's great because 30%, you know, 40% of the time he's nice.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But then when you go outside, you're his, you know, like basically his chum for humor. That's not fair. Have it ever happened to you? Oh, yes, many times, yes. They'll be like, oh, huh, she's like, you know, Kelly. And I'm like, I mean, I do have my MBA. I mean, I have written seven books, but you, you go like, you do you. go ahead, tell the world.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I'm like, oh, my God. Also, like, I have a lot of confidence because of who I am and what I've done. So I'm just like, and people are like, what? And so that's also, I don't like that too. Because what I said to the person that did that to me, I said, you know, it's just a disservice to you. They know who I am. They know exactly what I'm doing. Everybody knows, like, what my situation is and what I've done in my past.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So for you to do that, they're just like, why are you doing that? that looks that's weird. I think that I think that some men, I'm told that I intimidate men and I'm a piker compared to you in terms of success. So I imagine, I don't know about Megan and Austin, but it sounds to me like men who are insecure do that. That's what it sounds like to me. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:13 But you're just basically there, comic relief. And like, I don't want to be this one. It's like, you know, mother of my children, comic relief, that's not the multi-hyphenate you want. And if something really funny happened one time and he shares it, okay, that's fun. That's funny. You laugh with them. But if you're the blunt of every joke, it's unacceptable. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Right. Well, that's a red flag. He's out. Right. He's out. All right. We have another one. Here comes the next one.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Megan, you've heard it straight from Kelly. probably not a good guy to keep in your future for terribly much longer. Okay, here's the next one. It's from Kayla. Hold on, Kathy, unless you say to him, honestly,
Starting point is 00:41:58 like that really hurts my feelings. And this, it's such a foil, how we are publicly to how we are personally, it's such a dramatic foil. And I don't understand. Can you please explain that to me? Put it on him.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Let him do the work. Why are we always doing the work? Put it on them. explain to me what is going on so we can collectively be better but like why are we always you know doing all the work
Starting point is 00:42:25 well I gotta be honest if this happened to me I wouldn't really care what his answer was because I'm kind of the guy that when he shows you who he is believe him like that's who he is so I don't and I'm not the business I've raised three kids I really don't want
Starting point is 00:42:41 to raise him forth and if he doesn't see that that is really not the way to capture my heart. You know, it's probably not going to work. For me, it would bring the ugly out, and I'd probably say worse stories about him. Like, this has got to stop. It's not healthy.
Starting point is 00:42:58 All right. The next one is from Kayla from New York City. You probably know her because New York City is a small town. I've been dating, she says, someone for almost four months, and I really like her. We've spent weekends together, met each other's coworkers by
Starting point is 00:43:15 accident and we talk every day. But here's the weird part. I still haven't met a single one of her close friends. Every time I suggest getting dinner with them, she says, eventually, it makes me wonder if she's unsure about me or if she likes keeping different parts of her life separate. At what point should I start seeing this as a red flag? What do you think, Kelly? I mean, I think the operative word is eventually, right? You know, eventually, what does that mean? Eventually. Eventually, if you were going to meet people eventually,
Starting point is 00:43:55 I'd be like, I'm going to give you eventually. Bye, bye. I mean, I think that eventually is a very interesting word. I was like, whoa, that popped up. Eventually. Eventually. Eventually, we'll do something, maybe in a few years. There's zero timeline for that.
Starting point is 00:44:17 You know, I just think it's, I think that, I think that in this day and age with social media and with, you know, how public our actual private lives are, even if you're not a public figure, everyone's lives are public, quote unquote. So I think that there is always going to be that opportunity where you are going to run into this person, you're going to run into that person. But they're not really making plans for you to meet people that they, really care about that who can give them an assessment of who you are like I think that's a disservice and I think it's kind of like you're kind of just kind of a you know you're you're not you're just like misses right now or he's missed the future now well he's not bringing him around so maybe she's not that sure about him you got to prove yourself first okay well wait a minute this is I think a
Starting point is 00:45:15 lesbian relationship. It's Kayla and she's same sex, yeah. Same sex relationship. So I don't know that that play, I'm not sure that plays into it, but I think where my mind goes, and I have a gay son, my mind who's, you know, been out for years, but maybe she's not out. Maybe there's more to the story that we don't know. I want to give the benefit of the doubt here. That's a good point. Maybe she's just nervous about that.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I think I am going to lean into that, but I also think that if you're listening, Kayla, from New York City, I think the operative word eventually was really telling. And again, like, let them do the work. I went on this podcast and I wrote this person to question and I used the word eventually. What are your thoughts? Let them do the work. Yeah. I like it.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Again, we are constantly doing, always doing the work. Let them do the work. work. I like, it's like Mel Robbins. This is just, she say let them. Let them do the work. Well, let them do anything, frankly. Just put it all on them as far as concern. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Well, this has been so much fun, Kelly. I wish you're going on for hours with you. I want to wish you all great luck in your show that's coming out. I just love you guys. I love hearing, you know, all of your stories on being on, you know, with Bachelor Nation. love your camaraderie. I love how when we're all together for IHeart
Starting point is 00:46:47 Radio, you guys really lead everybody and nurture everybody and you always include everyone and everything. It's not like oh, you know, we're over here and you guys are over there. You really are like such like mama bears and
Starting point is 00:47:03 you know, I mean, I love you guys. I'm so happy to call you my friends. Kelly, before we let you go, anything that's coming up for you that you want to share that we haven't heard about. You know, just I'm really excited about the golden life. I'm really excited about my, you know, future with I do part two and finding love and, you know, all my partnerships. I've just been really grateful to, you know, have great health recently and just feeling really good about where
Starting point is 00:47:35 I'm going and what I'm doing. And, you know, I'm just excited. I'm just really excited about what You should be. You should be. You've got your, you guys. You light up a room. So tell everyone where they can find you on socials, Kelly. Thank you. So you can find me on Instagram, Kelly Ben Simone, TikTok, Kelly Ben Simone, YouTube, Kelly Kaloran Ben Simone. Look forward to and Facebook, Kelly Kaloran Benzimon. I hope to see you guys everywhere. As you know, my social media is not very, it's just very, very, very, very. organic. It's like this is what I'm doing today. So if you want to follow me all day long, all my antics, I'd love to. I do follow. And listen, I'll be seen in a few days for the closing on my house in Sarasota. I love it. You guys are fantastic. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Happy summer, guys. Happy summer. Thanks so much for joining us, Kelly. And make sure to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. And you can follow us on social. media at at Bachelor Happy Hour and at Bachelor Nation. Until next time, have a great week.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Hey there, Amy Roboc and TJ Holmes here from the Amy and TJ podcast where we are doing the exact opposite of taking a summer vacation. Yeah, I can't do that. There's entirely too much going on in the world right now to not be talking about all this stuff. Come along with us every morning for our morning run. Then keep an eye on the Amy and TJ podcast feed. We give you a steady stream of episodes daily with conversations that allow us to go deeper and, yeah, sometimes go at it. Listen to Amy and T.J. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Munga Chitigula, and I'm back with a new season of my podcast, Skyline Drive. This time I talked to scientists, biopunks, curmudgins, blues owners, super seniors, and Goa's
Starting point is 00:49:38 top cryotherapy lab to try to understand this obsession with living forever and what it means for all of us. And I get into a bit of trouble along the way. probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. To make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive,
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Starting point is 00:50:17 before the noise of the day takes over. So let's start our days together with a moment of calm that's just for you. Listen to waking up with Ryan on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bill, why is my eye twitching? Does this mean I'm in perimenopause? Where's my phone? Julianna, maybe we can ask an actual human. Yes, because I have questions. And I bet you do too. Like, is it normal to sleep in separate bedrooms? We do that. And I still need to know why my poop's been green. We've got actual people. answering these exact questions.
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