Bachelor Happy Hour - Kelsey T. Talks Unique Journey to Getting on Show and Her Relationship with Her Dad Now

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Kelsey T. is finally making her “Happy Hour” debut with Joe and Serena, and she’s getting into it all. She shares the backstory of her role in the movie “Barbie,” her unique journey to getting on the show, and her relationship with her dad now. Plus, we get her thoughts on the “Women Tell All,” the finale, and some interesting tea: Are there new Bachelor Nation couples emerging? Tune in to hear all this and more, and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. No Such thing. Hey, everyone. to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here with Kelsey T. Kelsey, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. How are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. You definitely had one of the stronger connections with Joey, and we saw you a lot on his season. So excited to talk to you. We did see you were more quiet at What was it? The women, the women tell all.

But we're going to ask you. I mean, I don't blame you. I probably would have sat there and been like, I'm not getting involved in this shit. But we'll talk about that later on in the episode. Let's first talk about how you got on the show because we've heard like you were like you did the blocking for charity season. Is that correct? Yeah, exactly. So I was basically charity stand in.

I worked with the show for actually two years. So I did a few other, I did the Mentelaw, and I also did AFR as well for them. So it's been a couple of years for me with the show. And while I was on charity season doing the blocking for her on stage, I got approached from some of the producers. And they were like, hey, would you actually want to come on the show? And I was so confused. I was just getting like snacks from crafty and like, well, wait, wait, before you get into that, can you kind of explain? because I know a lot of people that are listening to this

may not really understand what blocking is and what you do. Could you kind of explain that just for our listeners? Yeah, definitely. It can be a little confusing, but basically there's a first team and a second team. First team is the cast, the main cast. Second team are the people who stand in for the cast.

So we do all of their maybe movements, potential movements, if there is potential lines that they need to hit or things that need to be said, we do all of that for them. And then mostly lighting, too. So they want to know how these people are going to look on camera. They want to know if this angle is the best, if they're going to be too far from the audience at this point.

They want to know all of those steps. And I run through the steps for them so that when they get on stage, it's all clear, it's all taken care of, and they can have the least amount of problems as possible. So that's my job. I do everything for them so that it makes everything just run seamlessly or as seamlessly as possible. Well, there's still going to be issues, still going to be problems.

But I do most of it for them so that it's easy on everyone. This is for the live shows, not the actual. This is only for live shows. Only live shows. I've never been to the mansion before. Never traveled with crew or cast or any of that. It's literally on the lot just at the studio. That's the only place that I've been.

So basically before they film, for example, like Charities Men Tell All, you would go stand in for charity and like sit in the hot. seat so they could figure out like you know the camera height and the lighting and all of that exactly so you want to just be as similar as possible to them and maybe say things that maybe they would say at this point because you've seen kind of the footage and what's going to what's going to happen so yeah I would sit in the hot seat joey also has like you know a stand in don't has a stand in and so we all like work together to make sure that it runs as seemly as possible we never know what's going to happen though they don't there's no lines or anything but we just try to improv and give it our

best based on the footage that we see. So then you're getting you're getting snacks and a producer walks up to you and how does that conversation go? Yeah, I remember verbatim. I went to like crafty. I got some snacks and I was getting a coffee because I had already been a long day. And I remember seeing this guy and I wasn't sure who he was. But I was talking and we were having a great conversation. And then one of the PAs, which is a production assistant comes up to me and they go, do you know who that is? And I was like, I have no idea, but he seems really cool. He's nice. And they were like, uh, that's, you know, the head been in charge. Like, he's, he's one of the big producers.

And I was like, oh, well, he seems awesome. Um, so I was like, that's great. He's like, but I think they, like, are trying to see if they want you on the show. And I was like, I don't know. I'm just working, you know, I'm just going to go back, do my job. I'm in and out. And so, yeah, I'm standing there and three producers approach me. And they go, would you actually like to be on the show?

And I was like, I, I kind of slows up a bit because I would, I didn't, it came out of nowhere. And I was just so confused and I was like, are they serious? Like, is this real? I was just like, sure. And they were like, well, are you single first? And I was like, oh, I'm very single. That's one. We can check that box.

And then, yeah, we had a couple more conversations and eventually I made it on the show, which is crazy. Did you have any idea who the bachelor was going to be at that time? I did. So they kind of show the footage. And I knew at that point, who. who it was and that's why I was also excited too. So I was like, okay, if it's gonna be him, I'm gonna do it. So.

Okay. Yeah. Truly the most unique casting story that must exist in this franchise other than like, I mean, Joe, you got scouted in a Whole Foods, but like, it's just crazy that you were like working your on set, you're doing your job at the Bachelor Studios at Warner Brothers. And then they're like, hey, um, so when you're done, you want to go buy some gowns and and come film next season. It's crazy.

I swear. I think back every time and just being back on the stage, I'm like, this is so surreal. This can't be real. Like, this cannot be real. Did women tell all feel like such a full circle moment for you?

Oh, definitely. It felt so full circle. I took a moment when I got there just to kind of stand in this space and just take it all in and say, you know, I was on the other side of this.

Like, I know what it feels like to be on the other side. I know what it feels like to be crew. And now I'm on this side. I never thought that it would happen this. sway or reality TV was never in the cards for me I would say it was not something that was on my mind um but if it was for love I was open to it um and just being in at the women tell all and that full circle moment of like I'm really here again and it's different now and that's crazy yeah do you think or were you worried at all because you're your day job you're an actor correct

were you do you do you think like doing reality TV hurts that at all so that was my biggest concern honestly I went back and forth for a while I didn't have too much time to decide but I went back and forth for a long time I talked to a lot of people too a lot of people that I trust and consider mentors in the business and I was torn a little because I was hopeful that I could find love, but also very nervous that it would affect my other love, which is my career. And so I wasn't sure where to go with it. But at the end of the day, I was like, I have to take a chance. I trust myself. I know myself. And I think if this is something that's going to bring me down in my career, then I know I can figure it out. I'll work through it. I love this.

I will do it for the rest of my life. Wherever it takes me, it's going to be great. were you worried at all about any criticism from like the girls in the house or the public about like oh she's an actress like she's not here for the right reason so i feel like we have seen that in the past um and your job is so integrated in your journey to get on this show i was so nervous i was like guys they were like she's fake she's phony she's just acting i got comments like that too. They were just like, listen. She's probably acting right now. And I'm like, guys, if I were that good, I would have an Oscar right now. So I'm not that good. I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be here. So I was like very nervous about how like the public perception of me just coming on and being very honest about who I am and what I love to do, I was nervous about that. But I think overall the perception, I feel like people were like, no, she's she's she might be an actress, but she's, she's, she's, she's, she might be an actress, but she's, she's, she still can find love hopefully yeah and i i think it was different i think it was different before social media because now it's it not only you know you could be an actor but you could be a

social media influencer and there's like that whole stigma of like going on the show for for instagram followers or ticac or whatever the hell um where like before social media if you went on reality tv and you were an actor it was like guaranteed like that is why you're there you're being fake. So I do think it's definitely changed a little. Yeah. I also think you came across very genuine and you weren't someone that was like stirring the pot

or in the drama. Like it never felt like you're ever doing anything. That's what we think, but we don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's an act. You know, we got a good cut. We do have to ask you before we jump off of acting and more so into the show.

You were in the Barbie movie. Please tell us every little detail about it. Okay. It's the craziest thing because technically it was a background role. So when I got there, I didn't expect to have like a trailer or be treated, you know, a little bit more like cast. It was weird. I just thought, you know, I'm going to come do my job, do background and leave. But no, they had a trailer for me. They had my name. And I was like, oh, what are we doing? Because you never know what you're doing until you get on set. For the most part, they're very hush, hush, very quiet, you just show up. And then they give you everything. So I didn't know what I was giving at all. Yeah. Because, and especially with the Barbie movie, because it's such a big, it's a huge, exactly, it's a huge production. And so they want to keep everything pretty quiet. Even they have like pseudonyms and things like that. So you don't know half the time what you're getting into until you pull up and you're like, oh, oh, this is what we're doing today. Is that scary ever? It was in the beginning, but it's honestly like a muscle. Now I

get like excited. I'm like, oh, I don't know where we're going. Sometimes I'm hopping in this van or going over here and people are taking me here. You never. know. And I learned to love the adventure of it. It's beautiful. It's amazing. It's spontaneous and I love it. It can get a little crazy, but it's great. But the Barbie movie was a very quick day, I would say. We spent maybe like 12 hours there. But when we actually were on set, it was like 40 minutes, if that. And they literally lined us up. We were all Miss America. So I was Miss America, yeah, I was Miss Jamaica. And so we were all like, it was Miss Universe, I believe it was.

Yeah, Miss Universe. So we were all different places. And I was Miss Jamaica. And they put me right in the middle of the beautiful women that were there. And I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. They were like, just posed like a pageant girl. I'm like, I've never done pageants or anything. I'm like, what do I do?

I'm feeling awkward. But I was like, you know what? We're going to have fun with it. And so we're all just posing, having a good time the ladies are are you know vibing out and yeah they just took pictures of us after they lined us up and i didn't know where it was going to go until i saw and i was like oh i'm on a billboard okay good to know it's crazy yeah do you ever shoot scenes like that where you're like oh this might not go anywhere like this might not even like i know like i

can't compare it to acting but in reality i know we filmed so much and you're like i don't even know if this is going to see the later day absolutely i filmed things and I still search for them now. I'm like, I'm on YouTube. I'm like, where is it? It has to, it had to have come out. No, nothing. So I'm like, I did it. I was there. And we're the only ones who know. No proof. But with the Barbie movie, we got proof. Yeah. I've even had whole scenes. Like I've, I've had a role where I was a, like I had lines and everything in one of the movies made for love or the series made for love. And they cut the whole scene, the whole scene. no the whole thing

I got everybody excited I was like guys I have lines now like look it's going to be great I got a co-star roll we're all watching it just gives fast to see and I'm like

you're like it was supposed to be right there I swear I was right I swear I was like you know that's the last time I give information before it comes out next time

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What's crumbling? It's like a famous improv studio in L.A. Like a second city? Yeah. So it was, it hurt. And I just never got back to it because they were doing online classes for the longest. And I was like, no, I'm not doing online. I need to be a person.

You know, you got to feel this craft. Cool. All right. Let's jump to the show before I get fired. We, we, we, we, we, um, Um, so you get out of the limo, you see Joey, just briefly, like, like, what was that experience like? And do you feel a connection immediately? I was very nervous in the limo, like just, I was at one point, like, I could feel my like hands like kind of shaking. I was like, I don't know why I'm so nervous. Like, I'm used to cameras. I'm used to life. I'm used to all this stuff. But I was so nervous. I was like, I'm not used to being like myself per se on camera. And so I was like, I was like, I don't know what you do. I don't know what you say. And I was like, all right, just relax. So I get out of the limbo and I see him. And immediately like the eye contact was there, which I love. And this calmness came over me. He's a very like calming person. He's a very like, he can ground you. And so I felt like there was a connection there. Because if I was that nervous getting out of the limbo and then I could feel this calm like just talking to him. I was like, I think it's going to be okay. So. Yeah. That's important. And then we have.

What were your thoughts on on the drama that went down? Yeah, because you had a later one-on-one date in the season in Montreal. So you went through a lot of the drama on the group dates in the house. How are your feelings about all of that? Because you were really nowhere to be found when there was drama. But I'm sure you had an opinion on it. I did. When it first started happening, I was just, I wasn't very present for those moments.

There were so many different moments and so many different people and so many different things happening all at once that if you're not in that room or with that person, you just miss it. And so I miss so much in the beginning that when it all started happening, I remember Maria being across from me and Sydney's next to me. And that's when the moment happened where they got into it. And I was so confused. I was like, what is happening right now? Yeah, like, what did I miss earlier tonight? Yeah, like what did I miss? But eventually when I started getting the information and all of that, I just thought, honestly,

I just thought it could have easily been solved with just a simple conversation. And so I decided it wasn't really something that I needed to talk about and jump in. I think the ladies needed to handle it themselves and come to some kind of conclusion or, you know, agreement between themselves. But I didn't think I needed to be involved in it at all. And Medina is 31, correct? And how old are you, Kelsey? Now I'm 32, but I was 31 on the show.

So I would hear things and be like, maybe I should think. something and be like hey i'm 31 as well but honestly i just i just didn't think it would matter i didn't think me jumping into the conversation at that time would change any of their minds it did not matter um so i said you know i'm just gonna relax i think it made no one learned that i was actually 31 until maybe like week two or something like that and i remember sitting on the couch and they were like, Kelsey, I thought you were like in your 20s this whole time. I was like, no, I'm a 31. But let's not make a thing out of it.

Yeah, and let's not make a thing into this. Yeah, I'm like, no, please no, guys. Your, so you're one on one day with Joey. I remember being like that was a cool one. That was the circuit. What do I say, Serena Circus, Circus Oleg. Circus Olai. That's honestly what I always thought.

Not quite, Joe. That's honestly what I always thought it was like literally the word circus that O-A, O-L-E with like an apostrophe over the E. But yeah, that day was a lot of fun. You want to talk about that? Yeah, that day was so much fun. Honestly, as soon as we got there, I got excited because I love to do activities. I love to be, you know, just playful. I love to really get out there and try new things.

And so this was something just way out of the box that I didn't even think we were going to do. And so when we started to just have fun with it, and we got flown in the air at one point, you know, he was on the big wheel that you saw, like in the pictures. He was rolling with that. And then we did a little routine. I felt, I felt great. It was so much fun. Going into that date, where did you feel like your connection was out with Joey? At that time, I knew we were behind.

I could tell that, like, he was building connections very things. fast with these other women. And even on the group dates, we did have many moments where I did feel reassured and I did feel like, okay, like, we're so good. But I didn't know if it was as strong as the other ladies because he was given out, you know, other one-on-ones and having other moments with them. And so I was just, I wasn't sure. And it was so late in the season. And I was like, I don't know, is it too little too late? I don't know, but I'm going to make the most of it. I'm going to try and build off of what we have. Did you think there was a chance that you could potentially be going home going into that date because I know like mid-season on a lot of seasons

there's like someone gets a one-on-one day and then gets like basically like no this isn't working absolutely everybody got roses and I was like listen somebody's going to go home on a one-on-one late in the game it's looking like it's me so I'm like well we're going to have a good time we're going to have fun. If it goes great, good. If not, you know. Luce you had a fighting chance. I mean, honestly, I'd rather go home on a loose.

At least you go home on a one-on-one. You're like, oh, if you don't like me at this point, that's fair. Like, you know. Exactly. Because we had so many other moments and like from the wedding and from each date we were building, it was just felt a little slower than a lot of other people. But if I got to that point and we still couldn't make a connection and it's this late in the game, then it's not.

We're not each other's person, and that's perfectly fine. So I went into it just saying, you know what, I'm going to have a great time. I hope he is ready to have a great time and we can see each other for who we are. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. And that's okay. Yeah, I think that's a great way to look at it. On that one-on-one date, we see you open up to Joey about your dynamic with your family, specifically your relationship with your dad.

Were you nervous going into that conversation? Have you opened up to like people you're dating about that? before i was very nervous and honestly he's only the second person that i've talked to about that he's literally what to um the first person that i talked to about it i was engaged to him so to have this conversation come up this early in a relationship and at all was a lot for me um so i was very nervous going into it and how do you feel i guess how do you feel joey received that I think he received it very well. I think he is an amazing listener, and I think he has a great way of understanding people,

even if he doesn't know exactly what you're going through. He has a great way of understanding, like, hey, this is something that you've been dealing with, and I can see how it affects you and your relationships. And he was very open to that fact, and I could tell that I could trust him with, you know, with who I am. And I appreciate that from him. and how is how is your relationship today with with your father it's really good i am i am so like shocked honestly because we've been working on it for a while but it's never

gotten to a point where we feel like we have an actual relationship you know you know it's different when you talk to someone or you call someone when you have an actual relationship with them and it's it's building that's where we're at now And I didn't know if we could get there. So it's there, though. What was it like for him to, did he watch the conversation that you had with Joey? What was that like? So he actually watched it with me.

I asked if he could come over and just watch it with me because I wanted to see how he felt. And I also wanted to be with him in that moment. If he had questions or needed anything from me or if he had anything to say. to me and so we watched it he was a little emotional but overall he was like hey again i feel like we've grown from that place and i hope that we can get better and continue to get better and all you did was share your truth and that's that's all you can do so he's been very supportive yeah and very honest with with his with how our relationship has been in the past and how he wanted to go in the future. Well, that's great. It's like it, you know, it's like you hope to hear that that would be the

outcome, but like very seldomly would it. And I think that's, that's wonderful that it's, it's gone in that direction. Yeah. And we saw that you guys were at the finale, you and your dad together. Yeah. I was like, I was shocked because I wasn't sure if he was going to come at all. He doesn't do like TV. He stays very private he's not even on social media so i don't know he's going to actually come um and then he came and he actually took a shot too which i was very good he was like dad daddy he's living his best life now that must have that must have been meaningful for you though um to have him come and be there and kind of support the journey that you went on it was it's it's great to know that even though we may disagree on a lot of things and he may see my life um he saw it going somewhere totally different

than where it is now but he can still be there and support me no matter what even if his vision of what his child was supposed to be and do isn't is never going to happen um and vice versa like i think that my dad's a he's a human he makes mistakes and i'm going to love him regardless so for us to be there in that moment and for him to support me through it no matter what i love him for that are you comfortable um going into what that vision was that he had for you yeah um so the vision it or the vision was um that i would focus on the bible and the religion and basically how do I say it? It's so hard because this dynamic of a, of a, like, religion is so different from other dynamics that you have to, like, kind of start at the bottom to, like, explain it.

But the gist of it is you, you, you, you move up in the kingdom hall. So the kingdom hall is basically the church. And you move up and you have different titles and you get to a position where all you do is, study the Bible and you help others study the Bible. That's the goal. Um, so he wanted me to continue to do that, get baptized first, become a publisher second, and then hopefully move up from there. Um, and I wasn't able to meet any of those steps. I made up a lot of steps, but I wasn't able to get to the end of where he wanted me to be. Um, yeah, I don't know if that makes sense. It gets confused.

I went to Catholic schools, and when I was in eighth grade, I was never an altar boy, but I was an older boy, and we went in the back and we got drunk off the wine. This is not the same as what she's saying. This doesn't relate. That was my experience. And that's why I knew that, like, me and the church weren't going to be a thing in the future. but it's uh that was my experience uh okay so thank you for sharing that joe i'm sure you guys are well you guys honestly you're both welcome um so let's let's talk about so then um going back

to the season um you end up not you you last you last a long time but then you end up not you end up not getting a rose did you did you see that coming were you expecting that so on that last date um i i saw it coming i saw his connections with a couple of the other women and i felt like we don't have that the last date being the lumberjack date and jasper in jasper lumberjack date i could see that he was definitely developing a lot of other relationships much faster their banter the way they reacted to each other it was just like you can see when people have chemistry you can see when and you can see when it's a strong connection and I saw that and it hurt honestly it hurt a lot seeing it in the moment but it was also very it was enlightening

because I was like okay I think I think this is probably the end for us we had that one last conversation right before he didn't give out the roles at the group date and I I think a part of me still wanted to give it my all because that's the type of person that I am. And so I was like, I'm going to reassure you and say, you know, hey, I'm still in this. And he couldn't really make a decision that night on who to give a rose to.

So I think that's when I knew. I say, yeah. I think it's over. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority, Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly?

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because it's like you do, you did form somewhat of a relationship. You do have a connection, but then you kind of look around and like yeah but it's not as strong as everyone else and then you're comparing that that's tough but um and yeah i don't have anything positive to say after that because you went home so but i'll i will add i will add i mean just so our listeners though she's laughing okay because i know people have been so rude i'm joking it's a puck a joke you know it is what it is And I'm sure like going home is never easy, but it must have not being totally blindsided probably helped you kind of get up there and be like, okay, I'm going to brace myself a little bit

for what might be to come. I was. I was definitely bracing myself, even the night before, a few of the ladies were there for me because they knew I was just in shambles. I was not. I felt it coming. I knew it was coming. And I was trying to enjoy myself, trying to have a good time.

but also you know it's still it's still going to hurt still not going to feel like you know it's not going to feel good you're anticipating a bad moment you're like I know that a bad moment is coming for me now I'm just waiting for it and I'm like what do I do and so it was it was a lot but I tried to just have as much um you know have as much as a good time with the ladies as I could and then when we did get our moment to talk again I just wanted to make sure that he know that I was thankful for this opportunity. I don't, I barely remember what I said. I think I just thanked him a lot.

But I think there was a sense of peace that came over me, honestly, because I knew his person was there and it wasn't me and I was okay with that because this journey has been so beautiful overall and I met some amazing women. And I've, I know now that I am open to finding love again, which I wasn't sure if I would get there but I did and it's been beautiful that's amazing what was it like seeing joey again then at the women tell all um it was it was a little surreal because there's so much time that passes and when you leave you don't get really closure or anything so then he just pops up on the couch and you're just there again you're like but um I think after seeing him once he sat down and

everything I was like oh it just felt like it felt like it felt normal it felt like we can move past this and we can like I can celebrate you know the love that you found and I'm I'm I feel like he wishes me well too so it was just a it was a good moment let's uh let's cut to the finale um because there we we saw there was like a million different alum there and there's a lot of rumors going around so what what do you got for us because we all we know you guys all went out like yeah we saw the after party on instagram drinking what Charities boys, Joey's girls. Can we get, yeah. You know, I had a great time at the after party. Oh, did you? Living it up. Who were you talking to?

Is there anyone in particular? There was no one in particular that I was talking to. But I am open to, you know, continuing to get to know a lot of people that I've met and we'll see where it goes. Like who? No one's all the team. Well, give

me a name. What am I supposed to do with that? Give me a name. Hot Sean. Was hot Sean there? Was hot Sean there? I think he was there. Oh, he was there. I swear like someone posted a TikTok with all the boys trying to like shuffle or something

and I think I saw him in it. Okay, maybe. I think maybe he was I'm not sure actually Maybe I don't know him by hot Sean either I'm like It's yeah Sean blonde hair Okay

Looks like a Kendall According to him Okay according to him I mean Give us a name though Give us a name Give us a name I'm learning a lot of people's names

And a lot of like Because I didn't watch the show either like that My mom watched it a long time ago And so when people pop up I'm like I know your face But honestly I can't remember your name So it's sometimes hard for me to to get it down.

Okay. Other question were like set-ups happening though. Like we'll let you off the hook here with this one. Was there like some girls and some guys chatting? Do you think we might see some new bachelor couples anytime soon? You know, there was definitely some chatter. There was definitely some connections being made. And I'll say, you know, there's some people who are, who are talking.

Pursuing? Yeah, they're pursuing. doing. I think. Can you get it's a clue? I mean, you know, my girl Autumn, she's out here, and she's living her best life. Oh. I think she definitely has a contender.

And we'll see where it goes. I'm happy for her, honestly. I think she's just in a good space and she's excited. She's a cutie, and we really liked her on the season. So I love to hear that. Yeah. Nice. All right. Well, you didn't answer my question. You skated around it the whole time, but that's okay. Before we let you go, we're going to play rapid fire questions. First thing that comes to your mind. Just answer Serena. You want to do it?

Sure. I got you. All easy, fun questions. So let's kick it off. Coffee or tea? Tea. Early bird or night owl? Night owl. Chill night in or fun night. night out. Oh, so hard. Night out. Adventurous or relaxing vacation? Adventurous. Where is your dream vacation spot?

That one's kind of hard because I don't really, I just want to travel everywhere and I want to see everything, even if it's like, you know, going into a city where there's like just a town and it's local or going to like the big tourist spot. I love to do it all. So I don't really have like a specific place, but I just. love to meet people wherever I go and get engulfed in the culture. Favorite type of food or cuisine? Ishi.

Full face or natural makeup? Oh, full face. Favorite place you traveled to this season? This season? Montreal. I felt connected to that place. Yay, Canada. Montreal was, it was just like, I got there and I was like, wait, why do I feel like I'm supposed to be here?

I was like, I love to be. I still need to go. I haven't been. I have to go. I know. We're, I think, going to go. We'll go for this summer when it's a little warmer. Favorite song or artist at the moment?

At the moment, there's this song in my head that I can't stop playing. It's called Waterfall by, I think it's Disillusion or Distribution by NRAA. But it's called Waterfall. That's all I know. Yeah, I'm never good with, like, people or titles, but it's a good song. It's not to suck your balls. like your sax song, is it? Oh, or not?

That's a different genre. The whole other claim. Okay. Favorite movie or genre? Favorite favorite movie is Remember the Titans. Genre, I would say, comedy. What is a dating deal breaker for you?

people that's so whatever oh so many I said people who are just who talk about themselves the whole time and don't ask you any questions because it's so that you're not like interested in me

you just yeah that's a red flag who from Bachelor Nation would you let wing man you oh you know what Rachel's a good wing man she would be a wing woman Rachel's a good wing woman

Rachel from your season Rachel for my season yes yeah she'd be great she's got my back and then to end it off what is next for Kelsey what's next for me well I'm getting back to acting

things are still a little slow but honestly I'm just happy to get back to doing what I love, and even just the audition, the audition process is always fun to me, too, because it just keeps that muscle going. So that's what's next. I'm also in real estate, too. Since the strike happened, I jumped into real estate, and it's been exciting. It's been crazy, but it's been very exciting.

So seeing where that goes, but I think everything's aligning for me, and I'm doing what I love, and I'm not accepting anything else. So that's amazing. I love that. Well, Kelsey, thank you so much for taking the time and coming on to our show. Yeah. Thanks for letting me. This is so much fun. Of course. Of course. And to our listeners, thank you guys for tuning in, like always, and make sure you subscribe if you're not. We have more exclusive interviews coming your way, so don't

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