Bachelor Happy Hour - Kylee Russell: Her DMs are OPEN! — Part 1 | Happy Hour

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re here with “Bachelor in Paradise” alum Kylee Russell! Kylee is here to dish on all her updates. She and Aven have officially broken up and she’s ready to get back out there. We kick things off by learning all about the split and this brand-new era she’s in; hello, Dr. Kylee! Then, we get into her dating life and what she’s looking for in a partner: Will she be returning to the beach? Plus, we learn who from Bachelor Nation she has her eye on. Tune in now and stay tuned for part two dropping tomorrow!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Rachel. And I'm Charity. And today we have my dear friend and Bachelor in Paradise alum, Kylie Russell. Hi, Kylie. Hi, I'm so excited to be here with my girls.

So happy to have you. It's been truly, I feel like, some time since we've had like a sit-down podcast with you. So how are you? Let's just start there. It's truly been so long. Lots to unpacked here, but I'm excited to be back. I'm doing well. I'm in like a new era of my life.

And I'm excited to tell you guys all about it. I'm so excited to unpack this era because I just have to say, Kylie got on and she has the hair, the makeup. Everything looks fantastic. I want to hear about this new era before we get into the new era. Okay. We got to unpack a little bit. of the old. Just a little. Yeah, just a little. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I'm scared to talk about this

because I've talked about it over and over again. It's been like my story for the past three years ever since I love paradise. But I'm glad to finally close that chapter. I know there's like an elephant in the room. Ava and I are no longer together. And I think I'm okay with that. Actually, I know I'm okay with that. We're just both two very different people who want two very different things in life. And we clearly tried for three years. No ill will towards him at all. But I think it's time to officially close that chapter and move on and actually find my person. No, I'm so like happy for you. I'm so proud of you. Because obviously I know like there's good parts of it, but there's also very much like hard parts. Like doesn't matter who you with, how long you're with someone. But take us back to

obviously the last time you were on this podcast, we kind of uncovered a lot of a lot of you guys's relationship. And I want to know, and I'm sure our audience wants to know, what made you decide that you wanted to like give it another go? Like what signs were there that basically kind of like gave you like the push? Yeah. So I think for me, I am a lover girl. I love so hard. And at the end of the day, Avan was my first ever love. And so I had moved to San Diego. He had become like my family here. And I just wanted that sense of home being away from my home. And we rekindled. Everything honestly was like from the from the time we decided to get back together until now, unfortunately, um, everything was amazing. We moved in together. Life was truly starting to unravel. And I saw myself

having a future with him, having babies, getting married, doing all the things. And then as we kind of progress and when you live with someone, it's definitely very eye-opening. And we just realized we wanted different things. I'm a big family girl. I love the East Coast. And Avin has created a life for himself in San Diego. And I respect that because San Diego is truly such a beautiful place. But when I raise babies, I want to be close to my family, even if that's not technically Charlotte, just somewhere that's not like a five-hour flight away. And that's not something that he was mourning. And that's a big,

life decision that we needed to agree on. And unfortunately, we just couldn't come to terms with that. And so there was obviously other things, but that was one of our main kind of like, you know, spots in the road where we couldn't figure it out. So yeah, I just had to take the, I'm almost 30, which is crazy.

I am 28, not yet 29. But I just want things for my future. And I can't continue to waste time. So I needed to step away and truly be able to put myself in a circumstance where I can find my person. So yeah, it's sad. I wouldn't wish heartbreak on literally my worst enemy. I feel like I still go to the grieving process last night. Actually, I had a dream.

Then I saw him out with another girl. And then like I woke up kind of sad because I'm like, he was my person. So it's hard. It's something. It's been several months now. It's been almost six months. So it's been a while. but, you know, every day is different. It's all a part of the healing journey and I'm just ready to

move forward. I'm happy. I'm truly, truly happy. And I think this is the first time in a long time where I'm discovering who Kylie is, what she wants. And I'm starting to really love myself. And I love every asking of that. I love that. That like makes my heart like smile, Kylie. I love hearing you say that. Like that is like so huge and just like I can tell just like a step in the right direction truly. Thank you. No, I'm super excited. Obviously terrified because having to start completely over, I don't want to do that. The dating scene, I have not dated, like, outside of a reality TV scenario in three years. I don't even know what that looks like. I don't know how to put myself out there, but I'm like, you'll be fine. You'll be absolutely. I think as soon as people just get word that you're single, because I think everyone really knew. Yeah. Okay. Your inbox is going to be flooded. Okay, that's what I'm doing because I'm like, is my Instagram giving like taken? Because it's been a while since I got like, I, you know, I get the DMs, but like I need a cute like crush. And it's been a while since I've got sliding my DMs that I actually like. So I'm like, boys, hello. Like, I'm trying to post like hot photos now. Like let them know. I love it. She is back at it. I think a lot of people, I mean, even me, we watched you, I mean, fall in love in paradise. And then it kind of has been this on.

again, off again, where people weren't sure if you were taken. So now knowing you're single, what are you going to take from your relationship with Avin that you want in a new relationship? Like, what are the positives about the relationship? Yeah, there were so many positives. I think for a long time, I was always scared that I was always going to be looking for the next best thing in relationships prior to Avin. I was always scared to settle down because I'm like, okay, what if there's someone else out there that I would like more. And with Avan, like, Justin Bieber himself could have walked in the door and like, Kylie, I want you. And I'm like, no, respectfully, Avon is my man. I want to stay with him. So it made me realize that, like, when I find my person, I'm going to truly love them and I'm not

going to want no one else but them. So there are people out there that can provide that for me. And I am going to be able to settle down one day. I also think just like, I have so much to give an offer in a relationship. and I truly learned in relationship with Avin. Like, I am a good girlfriend. Like, I go over and beyond when it comes to the birthdays, the holidays, and I just want my partner to truly feel so loved and so cared for. So I just, I know I have a lot of love to give and I'm ready to give that to somebody. So, like, when you talk about obviously discovering yourself and like you're like realizing

and seeing a lot of that right now, obviously in your relationship with Aven, was there parts, that obviously were difficult to navigate with him, but in those moments where you able to see then, like, things about yourself that you were like, I know that this is like true to my core versus like, this is Avin and we aren't aligning here. Like what did some of those things like look like for you guys? Yeah, it definitely made me realize some non-negotiables. I do feel like when you love someone, a place is more of a, like a home is more of a person rather than a place. And I kept trying to tell myself that. But when I would go home, I would have major FOMO because my family is so close to one another. And I just like want to be able to experience

that with my family. Like I said, before meeting Avin and before moving to San Diego, I used to be like, okay, I'm only staying in Charlotte, like Charlotte or bust. Now that I've experienced other things, I've experienced the West Coast. I don't necessarily have to move to Charlotte, but I just want to be somewhere closer where it's more convenient to get to my family when I do have my own family. So I think a non-negotiable that I learned within this relationship is there has to be some type of compromise on our living situation because I just don't think it's simply going to work if someone is so dead set living so far away from the East Coast. So as much as I was like committed to San Diego, I do feel like a breath of fresh air

because now I'm like, okay, I don't have to live here forever. I can enjoy it now. But then when I'm ready to start settling down, I can move back closer to my family. I'm like, does this mean that you're coming back to Charlotte? Like, I did look at some homes, so let me know. I mean, we've been talking about this forever. I would glad we can raise our babies together. No, literally next door.

I have a cute friend or something because in order for us to get there, I need to ask. Listen, I know a few in Charlotte, but I'm like, the world is your oyster now. So don't you worry? Truly. I have to ask, Kylie, are you actively dating or have you been like on the scene a little bit? It's been six months. Yeah. So actively dating would be a stretch.

I recently downloaded a dating app. Never done that before. Trying to navigate that, which is terrifying. Which one did you download? Raya. Perfect. You're going to find your husband in like three months. Oh my God.

I hope so. I haven't like gone on any dates. I haven't kissed any other men. So I'm definitely like a rookie when it comes to this. I think I truly forgot how to like flirt because it's been so long. I think I got it. But like I'm just like, okay, I don't want to. It's this balance of like I don't want to come across like too strong.

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okay, I'm ready for this or like I should like, you know, maybe slow down here. Like I'm anticipating or feeling a little anxious. about this. So I feel like you'll know. But like, Kylie, when I say, like, I can't wait to really be late. All right. So here's my girl. She's single. Like, she needs a date to my wedding. So no, like anyone listening, please. Charity's wedding is coming up really soon. I am kind of freaking out because I need a plus one. I can't like bring my mom to this. So if you do hear that. Nice in a suit. And you would like to come with me, please. And you're fun. Like, I mean, you do have some. Some requirements.

So like, it would be fun. Gorgeous, good time, all the above. Immediately. Literally. Wait, can I make a request for who I want you to come to my wedding with? I'm kind of scared, but. Don't be scared. What if I, what if I, no, like, what if I reached out to Shane?

I feel like, I feel like you should bring Shane. and Shane from Taylor's season is who I'm referring to everybody. Obviously, single, if I'm allowed to say that, clearly. Gorgeous, if we're allowed to say that. He talked to charity. Charity already has been in. Yeah, we bonded at stagecoach, very fun personality. I mean, there's no wrongs.

He would know a lot of people at the wedding. So it's like a win-win situation. The win is a win. I don't extend those invitations out because I'm like, You need to pass the test to come to my party. Hello. Okay, well, if you approve, I trust you with my life, Jerry. Obviously, I've never met him. We do follow each other on Instagram.

And from what I can see, like, from the outside, he looks really good. Obviously, there's a lot of things that we've got to figure out. Make sure he checks all of the boxes. But I wouldn't be opposed to that. I love when hot people date hot people. And I think this would truly be my dream. And on top of it, like you said, going back to the dating world, it's daunting. Coming from me, I feel like when you're on The Bachelor, when you start dating again, you're like, okay, so what are your plans?

Do you want a family? Like, you're coming at the gate so hot. And he is also from the Bachelor world. So it's kind of perfect. It works. I love this. I'm very excited. Like I said, I would not be opposed, but I guess we got to see if Shane's on board with this.

Okay. Well, listen, I'll get to work. don't you worry about the job will get done. I've written some good words for me, charity. Absolutely. What are some other qualities that you're really looking for moving forward past this last relationship? Yeah.

So I've always been someone who was very faithful. I grew up in like a Christian household, went to Christian school. But recently I got baptized and I've truly become like on fire for God and Jesus. So someone who kind of shares similar values into that, I think it's really important. And it's hard. if we come from different backgrounds when it comes to our faith and religion to build a family and to build a foundation on that. So someone who shares those values and then someone who is very ambitious and motivated. For me, my career is everything. I recently went back to school to get my

doctorate. So I'm doing all of the things. Kylie. Kylie. I'm excited. Dr. Brunson. That is so huge. Wait. Oh my God. I'm like we can't like gloss over that. That's amazing, Kylie. Thanks, guys. I'm getting my doctorate in midwifery, so I'll get to deliver all of the babies in about two years. I'm still in the thick of everything. So. No, can I request you as my. Of course.

She delivers all the bachelor babies from here out. No, literally. So I'm doing all of the things, trying to further my income, further my career. And I just want someone who is as goal and oriented as I am. So build an empire with all the cute babies and nice. do all the things together. So, you know, the bare people at this point, but someone who is willing to go above and beyond for me. Honestly, I can't get over this. Yeah. No, I can't either. I'm like, it is a bare minimum, but you know, it's, you'd be surprised how hard it is to come across. Like,

it's like what? Like, what's going on? No. And I feel like I, I mean, I'm definitely not someone to chew my own horn because we all know that me and my self-confidence struggle a little bit. But I do feel like I have so much to offer to someone when it comes to just like my, my character, the things that I'm willing to give and the love I have to share. And then all like kind of my resume, like what I'm building for myself and what I hope and dream of have. So I think I'm like, I know I'm a catch. So I'm just waiting on the right guy to realize that and want to like, you know,

be my husband. Oh. This is like hurting my heart. No. No, because I'm like, you literally are like you're perfect in person and on paper. I'm like, just confused. I've been in the trenches. I'm like, how would it, how would you say dating or you haven't been dating in San Diego? But like, is that something that you're like, okay, since you're there, like, I'm willing to explore or does it scare you from what you've seen maybe from your other friends? Just. The face is telling me. I am a little jaded because the term Peter Pan is definitely tried and true. Being from the South, everyone gets kind of married and settled down. around like 24, 25-ish. Here, they're in like their 40s.

They're like, oh, no, like, I still have plenty of time. Like, we actually don't like come off. We got to start making moves to like, you know, building something. I'm not going to say, like, never say never. I'm definitely going to try to put myself out here. I think it's hot girl summer. So I'll put all my eggs in one basket immediately. But I think towards the end of the summer, I think it's, I'm going to take this time for

myself and then as the summer ends just kind of see what's out there for me but i am scared because these peter pans they'll bamboozle you for sure no and that's the thing it's like i feel like my one like one dating advice that i always share it's like you know me kiley i'm like ask those ask the hard hard they're not even hard questions but ask them like literally up front because i'm like what you're not going to do is now waste another like eight to 12 months of my life and we're not, you know, we're in the same spot. Nothing's happening. It's like you need to know these things like early on because that's exactly what happens

is like, oh, they just think you're along for the ride. And it's like, I am, but no. Exactly. Yeah, no, respectfully, I want the real deal. I think I'm at the point in my life where I'm dating to marry and dating to find who is 100% ready to settle down. I don't have time to waste. So if you're out here playing games, please respectfully come.

nowhere near me. Hello. Yeah. Hello. I'm excited. Like, really, I feel like the happiest I've been in a really, really long time. I'm enjoying Diego. I have so many friends now.

I'm booked and busy. Like, I truly am living my best life. And I think it took, like, cutting that umbilical cord off to, like, be where I am today. But even though it's hard, like, I'm so excited for what's to come. I have to ask because your glow up. like we said, it's so iconic. Like, you are just radiating, like, the best energy. But obviously, like, what you went through was really hard.

Three years of someone that you thought you'd be with. What was that process like when you were getting over the breakup and how you came to, like, this energy now? Right. So I think, especially towards the end of my relationship, it became very comfortable and complacent. It was just easier to be with him because that means I didn't have to start over. So when I came to the terms and I thought of all the things,

things that we struggled with and things that we were never coming to terms with, I told myself, okay, this isn't your person, simply. I mean, as hard as that is to say, like, he just wasn't my person. And I stuck around for so long hoping things would change, and it simply didn't. So it was just very, like, eye-opening and made me realize that, like, okay, it's time to kind of stand up because I was sitting down for so long, stand up, and just realize that, like, there is someone out there that's going to check all your boxes. You can't force someone into that. And as hard as it is, as sad as it is, like put one foot forward and you got this. Like, you're going to be okay. You've survived your tennis days already. Like, you're going to continue to survive this.

And I also, too, think my family and my friends are so supportive. I wouldn't, with the side of Luxapro and my family and my friends, it's true has allowed me to get through this. But just, I think just being hopeful for the future has allowed me. kind of enter my glow up era. I love this. And speaking of friends, obviously, like, season 27, the most elite. I'm so sorry. The best of the best.

Yes, yes, yes. How has it been, obviously, with, like, still having most of us, like, in your circle, rooting for you, supporting you, like, how has that been for you? Yeah. Although my bachelor experience didn't technically bring me a love that lasted forever. It brought me friends that I will cherish for the rest of my life. I'm lucky because even some of my friends, they literally live in my back door now. Just for like two minute walking distance. So we hang out all the time. We go to church together. I have you charity who I don't get to see as

often. But when we do see each other, we just pick up like we had been seeing each other every single day. So that's one of the things that I will forever cherish and thank this franchise for because I, it's hard making girlfriends, especially in your beliefs. And so having a set of friends who kind of have been in the same experiences, who have the same morals, the same values, the same beliefs in your circle is something that I will always be grateful for. So thank you, Bachelor. I know it didn't bring me like that love story, but it brought me the love story with friends that I'll have forever. I love that to cry. And I feel like it did bring you so much. Yeah. If we could rewind back to my first ever podcast with you guys. If we could rewind back to my first ever

podcast with you guys to now, I'm a completely different person in the best way. I've grown so much in like my confidence and my ability to even speak, like my experiences. I've traveled so much. I'm living across the country. And if you would have told me back then that I would have moved from Charlotte. I'm like, heck. So back to you're in the best way. It's truly changed my life. And I'm just forever grateful for the experiences that it gave me. Oh, I love this. An IHeart Radio experience. You and DePaul with weekend gold tickets to Lassau Montreal. Thomas Rett.

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I do know paradise is not until next year. I'm hoping by that point I will have found a man. But if I find myself still single, then I did live my best life on the beach. It's an experience that I wish I could always go back to. So if I'm single and Paradise is calling, I'll dames. I love that. Kylie, you heard of hear. I was going to say, because I was on the beach with you.

And it was like the first couple of days, literally everyone, like, Kylie's being pulled left and right and then Avan came in, locked it down, which we loved. You got to have that, like, love story on the beach, the mom and dad. I would love to see you go back to Paradise and date every single guy. I want you to be like, yes. But you're always a hot commodity. They're grabbing you. Guys, I love the confidence.

But I do feel like I think it's hard. I mean, I feel like if I went back a second time, I would kind of be like old news. Because, you know, I've been there done that. So I was like, I want to like reach through the screen and be like, I was there with you on the beach the way every man that came down would have taken you on the date if they even left. You're so sweet. That's not necessarily true. But. Right.

We're like, what? No, no. No, okay, we're working on the confidence. We're working on the confidence. But I know, Paradise was one of the best experiences. I was surrounded by all my best friends. I did fall in love. So to have that for a second time and maybe have a second opportunity, like, it would be something now I would be so grateful for. So if there would there be anything that, sorry, would there be anything that like would scare you about going back the second time besides like being in your in your words, old news. That's not true. There's a C now, Kylie.

Yeah, thank you. No sand in the beds. Thank God. No crabs in the shower. Thank God. No mosquito. Well, I don't know if there's mosquito. Like, I was one big mosquito by when I was like it was bad. We were suffering there, but having the best time. Living our best lives, literally. Um, things that I would be scared about. I mean, I do worry because I was lucky with Avin in a sense because I do truly feel like he went down there to find love. I mean, we lasted for three years. But when it comes to reality TV, there's a stigma of like are they there to actually settle down and to like find the person or are they there for like 10 more Instagram followers? So I think I'm at the point like I told you guys, I'm at the point where I'm ready to like find the real deal and settle down. So if we're going

out there so you can find a tripod and a dream like respectfully like but my eye just started twitching respectfully like I'm not your girl. So I think that would be the only thing about like are these men you are going down there actually there for the right reasons. But if they claim to be and I can find my husband, then yeah, I'm all for it. But period. Is there anything that you would change about Paradise? Obviously, we've seen like it be revamped last year. Was there anything that you were like, okay, I love this.

Obviously, the AC, that's a given. But like what about the format that you liked, didn't like? What would you like do better to like enhance your experience? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So what I thought about this season of Paradise, there really wasn't a lot of drama. I mean, there was some here and there,

but I truly felt like it was focused on love relationships and finding connections. And then you see kind of with that being the whole goal and the idea behind the show, you see all of these couples flourishing in the outside world, like Andrew and Alex, Jess and Spencer, like they truly are living their best life. So I think just going down there and focusing truly on the connections

is something that I would be excited for. And then Kat kind of gave me some insight, or T that you get to spend more time with your connection, maybe even sleeping in the room with them. So like, you just have more time to be like, okay, this is my person. We're connecting on X, Y, and Z. And like, I can see a future outside of him. So just more time with your partner and more intimate moments. I think that will be a game changer for me going back. Period. I have to ask too. Me and Charity have had the honor to interview so many of Taylor's men. And they're all so fantastic.

But outside of Taylor's guys, is there anyone that you would hypothetically love to see down on the beach? Oh my gosh. I like, I feel like that's true. The natural nation is booed up. Like, truly. That's true. I like a lot of the guys. Is that the case?

I don't know. Can we spitball some names here? Because like I'm trying to think, not Taylor's. I'm trying to think who I would love you with. Okay. Yeah, who I would love you with versus like who's just single. This is, okay, this is a twist of events. And I need to speak to Kat about this because, okay, I'm not pulling like a summer house.

Like, no, we're not getting in the dress. Correct. But I always thought John Henry was so cute and so just like pure and holes. We're both from North Carolina. We're both have like our country roots. But I mean, that was Kat's man. I don't really know she considers that to even be her man at this point. I was going to say if we were asking Kat about her accent.

I don't even think he would be top three, no offense. I love John Henry. Was there a connection during our season of Paradise that was like, that we didn't, like, did I miss it? Because I was like, that's the last one's not thought you're about to say. No, there was no connection at all. I just remember whenever he came down on the beach, we had like a small conversation. And he kept saying like, oh, yeah, my family really wants me to be with you.

Like they think that we would be a good match. Oh, like, I'm already getting the family approval. I love this. Hello. Yeah, hello. So yeah, definitely not my typical type and a little different than what I would normally go for. But he just seems like a sweetie boy. But we would have a cat because like I'm a girl's girl through and through.

And I just like, if that would even bother her in the slightest, like obviously no way. But I do think he's so, he's so handsome. So yeah. And I have another misconnection from like my observations. of being down on the beach with you. Blake Moynes is single. Oh, yeah, you, yeah. Kylie, if I do recall, you ran up to the car.

Okay, Rachel. Don't, but... Question mark. But wouldn't that be Jess? Yeah, so it's like all... So we have Kat and Jess here. This was the problem of that season of Paradise. We're all friends.

Too many, like, truly. We were all close and no one wanted to step on each other's toes, which I respect. Yeah, Blake and, I like it was very friendly. I don't know why. Like he was always someone that I would go to for advice. He's obviously been there, done that. I do think Blake is a cutie boy as well. And I do find his career very interesting. But yeah, I would have to have a conversation to jazz. But there was always this like flirtatious like some section. That's what I thought here. Please expand more. I'm like, did I, I not. I was at a lot. I was at a lot.

that beach having just I was drinking my champagne and watching that's what I did on my season. Also, I've never told anyone this, but when I got the first date card, the first night, I really wanted to take Blake. But like in my eyes, like he's like a bachelor legend. Like, oh, it's Blake Moyne. So, and I'm just like, Kylie, so I'm like, okay, it's what he, he doesn't even know who I am.

Is he going to think this is weird that I just randomly am taking him? And at that point, I didn't even really had a conversation. So I just felt very random to mention him. But then I'm like, okay, if I would have taken him on that date, like, what would my experience have looked like there? So I always have that what if in the back of my brain, especially with the things that kind of transpired after that. But I do think everything happens for a reason. At the end of the day, we all know how obsessed I was with Avin. And like I said, Justa Mever could have come down on that beach and I probably would have still picked Avin.

So I don't know. I might need to have two conversations with Kat and Jess just to see. but everything never. Let's get it on the podcast right now. I'm going to ask one. I need to throw one wild car though. Yeah, one wild car. I'm scared.

Kylie's shopping and be like, no way. What about Justin? Justin Glaze. I just have good friends with suit. Like, good friends with teeth. And I really respect her. And like with Jess and Kat, like their relationships with Blake and John Henry. They were just very like, they lasted like 20 seconds.

Right. But at the end of the day, like, it is what it is. With Susie and Justin, like, they were, it's kind of, it reminds me of Avan and I, like the back and forth. You truly loved each other. That's so true. So that would be hard because I just have a lot of respect for Susie. And I think Justin is a great guy.

But I, like, with Blake and John Henry, it's a little different. Yeah. It was a full blown, like, they loved each other. Yeah, yeah. I think I'll pass on that one. Have you, like, discussed this with Susie? Okay. That's all for part one with Kylie.

And we are just getting started. So part two will be out tomorrow, and we will see you all soon. Bye. This is an IHeart podcast, guaranteed human.