Bachelor Happy Hour - Kylee Russell: The Taxicab Theory — Part 2 | Happy Hour

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re back with Kylee Russell for part two! We jump right back in where we left off, chatting about Kylee’s potential missed connections the last time she was on the beach. How does she feel about dating someone who had a brief connection with a friend of hers? Then, Kylee looks back on her past relationship with Aven and gives us her final thoughts: Is the taxicab theory in his future? Plus, Charity and Rachel debrief their chat with Kylee and spill the tea on what they want for their beloved friend — Charity definitely has some names in mind! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Have you, like, discussed this with Susie? Because I'm like, that is actually so crazy. I didn't realize the similarity. And they've been in paradise together, reconnecting. Like, you guys have a similar track. We really do. So I was with Susie during Zach and Katie's wedding back in November. And we had conversations about it because I was so kind of in the of it with Avin and she had, I think recently into things with Justin. So I was just getting her advice because I'm like, if anyone understands this dynamic, I truly feel like it's you. She was like, Kylie, no, like I feel like I'm looking in a mirror because our chips are so similar. She's like, I know it's going to be hard. You feel like you kind of have like soul ties to him.

But at the end of the day, like when you kind of relinquish that, you're going to realize you're going to feel so free in the best way possible, like no shade towards Justin. or Aven, but, like, truly, it's for the best. So, yeah, I just have a lot of respect for her, and I know the feelings that she had towards Justin. So I think I'm okay, but great guy. That's not my guy. That makes sense.

Oh, my gosh. I'm literally having, like, a come to about, like, how similar this is. And I'm glad you had her to lean on because people, a lot of people can't understand, like, what it's like meeting someone and having them promise you a future in front of millions of people and then all of a sudden now it's ending and now it's not like that's crazy and I'm glad that you guys were able to connect with that it's so hard you know we make it through every single day yes we do Kylie I'm like curious because like we can like obviously get off of Avin and you guys in a second but like was there ever like conversations about like marriage or like how did he

feel about that because I think like the audience obviously how Paradise ended there was like speculation of like, oh, I don't know, like, if he wants to, like, commit because he was very like, okay, no, no proposal, but like, was that like almost a proposal? Right. Yeah. So it's like he was there, but like not quite. What did that look like when you guys obviously returned to real life and gave your relationship another chance? Yeah, yeah. Rachel, I feel like I was, um, you. We have talked about that. Yeah. I was like, okay, well, I'm just crazy about Rachel's. I think for him when it came, I don't want to speak for him, but when it came to, he takes marriage very seriously. So do I need to. He's, he kind of holds a lot of weight to an engagement. And at the end of the

day, Paradise was very short. There was no opportunity for like us to meet each other's parents and things like that. So he just didn't want to make that big of a commitment without doing like major life fakes. Obviously, I understood that in a sense, but I'm like, when you know, you know. And in that moment and even leading up to our recent breakup like I felt like I knew that he was my person. But yeah, when we obviously we took the next step of living together and we thought we had those conversations. He wants kids. He does want marriage.

And I do truly feel like with the right person, he will settle down and he will make that commitment. But I just feel like there's so much that went on in our relationship. It just constantly felt like an uphill battle. And we were good and then something would happen and then it just felt like we were starting from scratch. So I think there was just a lot of damage that was done that he necessarily couldn't get over. And it did make him fearful.

Okay, if I do make this final commitment with her, like, are we ever going to be able to just stay on the right track for long term? So yeah, we had the conversations. I thought it was going to happen. I did picture life like I would work in the hospital and I would see all these couples like having babies. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I know Ava is going to be such a good dad. So I can't wait to experience that with him. So yeah, no, I do think he's going to make the right person be so happy and commit to them, have marriage, have the kids.

Like, I do see that for him. And he's going to be a great dad. He is a good person. Yeah. He just wasn't my person and I wasn't his. And as hard as that is and as crappy as that is, like, I know we're both happy. We're both going to be okay. And they're a person for us.

Was there ever a point where you guys got close to an engagement again, like in, paradise in the real world. Yeah. No, I mean, so I recently, not recently, about a year ago, I was at a Lakers game with Tyler Norris and then his now wife, Alyssa. And Alyssa comes up to me, she was like, oh my God, like, Avan was talking to Tyler about Marines. And I was like, what? Like, I was so hype because, I mean, this was, I had just met Avin's parent, no, his dad. I met his mom a while ago, but I had just met his dad in Boston and his stepmom. And everything went so well. like I loved his family. I saw myself like truly fitting in. And then after that, Alyssa comes to me telling me that he's looking at engagement rings. I'm like, oh, my God. Like I'm like, I brought that up to him. And he was like, oh, no, like, I wasn't mean that I was looking. I was just like saying like, oh, yeah. I mean, if we're going to stay together at this point, like, I might as well start like looking. And I was like, oh, well, you definitely burst in my bubble. I'm not that excited anymore. But yeah. So I don't know. I guess that was the. the closest that we got to it.

We never went like ring shopping or had any like plans to do that. But I mean, at that point, it was like two and a half years. So I was hoping in his brain that. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. Also, I feel like because Tyler is one of his best friends. And Tyler was so ready to settle down.

He found someone he's in that stage of his life. Do you think that influenced him at all? Like, do you think he's anywhere closer to being, really ready. Yeah. So it's not just Tyler. Like a lot of his friends back home in Boston are all settled down, married, and even starting to have kids. Interesting. Yeah, you would think, but Avin is like through and through his own person. He's not going to let clearly we like, I made Rachel, but I like begged that Manning to propose to me and he didn't. At the end of the day, Avan's going to do what Avan wants to do. So I don't think anything is going to influence him. But I do truly

feel, I honestly think the next girl that he dates will be his wife. And that is so, really. Yeah, that's so, so hard for me to say. Because like at the end of the day, like, my other ex, like I've only had two boyfriends, like my other ex, if I, he got married, I think they're about to have a kid and it didn't bother me. But like with me, like, there was so much of life that we experienced together. Just so to see that with the next person, it's going to be hard, but I'll be happy for him. No matter. Why? Why do you say that? Why do you think it's going to be the next person? I think with Avin, like, it's like the taxicab theory.

I think the next person he dates, he's going to just be like, kind of just go all in and take what you learn in our relationship and kind of flourish that. And he did say that, like, he was going to truly work on himself and 100% realized, like, what he wants when it comes to his next relationship. So I don't think it's going to be a position where he just, like, settles and just dates anyone to date. So I think I think the next person is going to be a lucky girl. And I think he's truly going to find this person.

But I don't know. I guess we'll see. Because you talk so highly of him. And you're saying like your last ex is married with a child and it's not affecting you. Avin obviously, like you said, has some work to do. If he does that work and let's say a year from now comes back and like puts that in front of you, would you ever open the door again? I don't think so.

I think I mean, I have, we have opened the door so many times. we have tried so, so many times. So I just don't think, like, obviously never say never, but I truly just don't think he's my person. At the end of the day, like, the things that he holds such high value to is just completely different than what I, that is important to me. And that's just never going to change, unfortunately. And I don't want to ever change a person to make them fit in my mold,

but there has a type of compromise for it to work. And I just don't think there's going to ever be enough confidence. on both of our ends for there to be longevity. But like I said, like I, if Avan called me today and he was like, Kylie, I'm an emergency, I need you to come help me. I would drop everything and I would be there for him because I have so much love for him. I have no good will. And I really want him to live his best life. I want him to find him. I want him to be in love. I want him to, because I know how much love he has to give. Like he is a good person despite his transgressions. like he is a good person, but he's just not my person. And that is so sad to say and it sucks. And I wish

it. But I just like, I can't even hold a little space in that door to leave it open because for myself and for my dignity and for everything, I have to fully shut it because I'll never move on if I don't. And it's, it's truly time to move on. God is doing a work on you, Kylie. Yeah, I think this is so related. I think this is so related. Like so many people will listen to this and have that. I think everyone's fear is like, what if I never truly get over that person? But the fact that you're really deciding that the things you want are the most important is so huge. And hearing you say this, I think a lot of people are going to benefit from hearing this.

No, I think you literally just said it, Rachel. It's like putting your needs. And like sometimes people don't like, they lose themselves in relationships. And like that's just something that like falls to the wayside or they think they're being selfish by doing that but it's like you being able to realize that obviously during but then like now after while you're going through this like grief process of it all is like so telling of just like who you are and your character and just like honestly like how how well you're healing in all of this because a lot of people would just like question that and just also question like well why wasn't he like able to do

this for me or like why not and it's like it's not even about that at that point at some point you have to stop asking yourself, like, why and just realize, like, this is just what's being put in front of me and you have to accept it and understand that if it does change, it might, but there's a big risk that it may not change. And you coming to terms with that for yourself, most importantly, is so huge. So, so proud of you, Callie. I really am. Like, just hearing you talk, I'm like, this is lovely. No, and obviously, like, I didn't just wake up. This did not happen overnight. It's so many days of crying and going to therapy and just like, honestly, begging God, like, okay, why did this not work out? I did question myself, like, why am I not worthy enough?

Why am I not enough? But when I kind of flipped it and I was like, okay, no, it's not me. It's just like, to our core, we're just so different. And no matter what we do, no matter how hard we fight, like, it's just not going to work out. And that's what I mean. But, yeah, no, I mean, like I said, I had to dream about him last night. So like every day is different is still hard. But I think what makes me kind of get through each day is I'm so excited for the future.

I love what I'm doing right now, who I'm meeting it with. And I'm just like ready to see, okay, like I question. I'm like, okay, I wonder what my next boyfriend is going to look like or what our relationship is going to be like. So I'm just excited and I'm hopeful. I can't wait for all my friends to be just boot up and baddies. Kylie, I feel like taxi cab, I feel like it's going to happen for you. Like, I have this feeling. Like, it's going to be like you immediately.

Because I think there is like what Charity said. There's so much to say that you stayed and you put in so much work privately. Like, this wasn't even for the world. And I think it's going to be rewarded. And I know you're going to find the perfect partner. In the best way. In the best way. Thank you.

No, I'm so excited. I just hope that happens sooner rather than later. but I'm going to be patiently waiting until then. Me too. No, and I'm me three. I'll be perched. Thanks, guys. I might slide into some DMs for you because I'm going to work.

Charity's like in your Instagram like sending out. Oh, I'm like actually like I'm going to be a problem, but like the best problem. Like if you guys could help me like my Instagram, it's my Instagram giving relationship. Like what is it? Like I don't know. But I think people just thought you were still with Avid. Yeah. I think the two.

So I'm here to tell the world. I'm very soon. I am ready to move on. I'm back to work on myself. And I have a bomb-ass girlfriend. So. Yes. Take it while you cute.

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Like, why? For what? Hello. For what? For what? And I don't follow any of my exes anymore. So I'm just like, if I can do it, you can do it too. Like, you're a big boy.

I agree. Okay. Next one, they post thirst traps or they like thirst traps. Mercy. They're both pretty bad. They're both pretty bad. I would say they like thirst traps. Hello, because I'm like, post yours.

Are you liking a girl that is half naked? Like, what about you likes that so much when you have a loving girlfriend at home? Like, what? I can give you all of that and more. Like, why are you, no? Like, come on now. And it's like we can see it. Like, do they think that we can't see your name and others?

That is really the thing. It's like, I'm sorry, may Instagram never take that feature away because we're doomed. And it always shows the person that you need. No, it's like, you have the most traction with literally. I'm like, what do you mean? Granted, that would never be my portion. But like, I'm just like, uh-uh, like, no.

Yeah, so yeah, definitely, because I'm just like, for what? For what? No, like my new vocal stuff. For what? Okay. The next one is they overshare your relationship online. I think not posting your posting your partner. partner publicly is worse. I had a little bit of an issue with this. Obviously, there was some

PTSD because the first time I posted with Avin, it didn't go that well. But then we were kind of deciding back and forth of like, okay, should we post each other? Should we not? But then our relationship was rocky. So then maybe we did it. I don't know. It was just a lot. I was more for it. He wasn't. And I was like, okay, well, if you're not scared of anything, like, if you have nothing to hide. Like, well, why are you scared? Um, but yeah. So if I have a man, my man better be posting me loud and proud letting all the little girls know. Not correct. Absolutely. Yeah, because I'm like, why wouldn't you? And especially being in like a space, like with Avin and I, I mean, social media is a part of our life. So it was so cute. I feel like

I was living a double life because I was like posting and I was living with a man, but never showing him. And you guys would be like at the exact same place. Yeah. And like clicking through stories. Like I've already seen this view from another angle. Exactly. It's so weird. And I felt like I truly wasn't able to share my life.

And Avan and I did so many cool things. Like we went on so many trips and like we weren't able to post about it. And it just kind of sucks. So yeah, I'm going to show my man loud and brown and he better do the same. Absolutely. I'm right there with you. Okay. Next one.

They check your location or they check who is viewing their stories. Okay, wait. So they're checking to see who's viewing my stories. So what's worse? They are constantly checking where you are. Okay. Or they're constantly checking who's viewing their stories that they post. Oh, why do they care?

Honestly, why they should care about seeing their stuff is me. So definitely like, no. Like who? Yeah. Because you only do that when you're single. post something specifically for certain people and you're scrolling for hours mind you Instagram news out of feature we search the name so I don't have to sit there and like scroll for hours to see in my man or my crush is watching it so like yeah that's my location all the time I have

nothing to hide half the time I'm in a fast go drive-thrund going to sleep on my couch so like I have she's delivering babies and sleeping and sleeping so my life Like, if I'm your sim, like, it's very boring to you. I'm very sorry. I'm hollering. Oh, my God. Yeah. And Kylie, welcome back to the world of having, like, scroll through a million people to see because it's difficult.

And it's so hard. The most humbling thing is when you spend, like, 30 minutes looking and then the person that you're looking for never watching, you're just like. No. So it's like, why'd I post? I don't even, yeah, like, literally. I do not miss that. I do not miss that. I'm so sorry.

Charity, it's rough out here. No, but I'm like the way I just live in peace now, truly. She doesn't even check who's viewing. She said post and bye. Yeah. God willing. Okay. The next one is, oh, this is crazy.

They pose every fight or sub-tweet every fight. I would say sub-tweet. Like, if you're going to say something, that stand on 10 toes and say it and at me. Like, don't be sub-tweeting me, making subliminal messages. Like, let the world know. If you want to let the world know, let the world know. Yeah, like, also, too, why are you posting our business on the internet?

Which I mean, I have done that before. But, like, it was, you know, I had reasons to post my business. I feel like you were standing 10 toes. You're doing exactly what you said. So all you've done is state the facts. I was incorrect. I think it was just stating the facts of what happened. It was justified.

It was justified. I'm telling myself that. You got to say, let the world know. Absolutely. They accidentally like their ex's photo or accidentally send them the same ex a text. Crazy. How do you accidentally send a text?

Yeah. Correct. I'm like, like the photo. Yeah. Like the photo all day long. Both are, yeah. Nobody is butt texting. Nobody.

Like, I was in. You very difficult. And like, why is she at the photo? the top of the phone so you even have the opportunity to accidentally text her. Like there is no such thing as an accidental text. There's nothing. I think I'm so like, I'm jaded because I've heard all the excuses. I know all the things, putting the phone down, not being able to have access to my exes,

but like, no, I don't want any of that. I need full transparency. And like, if you have wondering eyes, please wonder far away from me because I don't want any part of it. So when it comes to like cheating or like being sneaky or like texting people you're not supposed to, like I have no part of that and I will immediately go off. Yeah. There is some. No, it's so icky to me. So icky. I agree. And everyone else should agree too. The next relationship. The phone password. I better know it. Like immediately. No, and that's a thing. It's like guys don't realize when like girls go through stuff like this, that's like really traumatic.

like, baby, I work for the CIA. You're not getting nothing over on me. No, truly. Like, I am head of the CIA. Like, I will find it out in two seconds. Like, you better just be transparent. No, truly. But for me, like, I am so forgiving.

And call me dumb or maybe naive. But even after everything that happened, never had the location, never went through the phone, allowed him to go out with his friends till, you know, all hours of the morning. So, like, even though he kind of broke that. trust. I knew I had to rebuild that trust because you were never going to work. I can't, like, constantly be worried about him. Like, if we're going to be together, I'm going to trust him. We're going to keep it pushing. So I can't decide my next relationship if I'm going to be as chill,

because that clearly bit me in the butt. But yeah, no, there's going to be some check-ins next time. No, for sure. You're a better woman than me. That's what I said. I speak about this. Like, the way I would have to be with you. Like, you can't go. Not me. I really am about her. Like, you don't even understand how. You don't even understand how. like if I told you outspice you'd be like huh and I'm like yeah but that's you're mature yeah and I think the next relationship you're going to be with someone and you're not even going to have to question where they are that's what I'm saying you're just going to it's going to be so like effortless like you won't even want to know like you know what I mean like there'll be

no desire to that's how I know that like I'm at peace because I'm like my brain doesn't even go to think that you know exactly I don't have to yeah amazing yeah I'm okay I like this question They use couple TikTok trends constantly or they refuse to take photos together. They refuse to take photos together. I will say, though, like, I love, like, my Hot Girl Instagram vibe. And when I do have a boyfriend, like, I still want it to be Hot Girl and then have just, like, a splash of, like, my relationship. But at the end of the day, like, that's my platform.

And, like, it represents me. Like, it's not, like, me and my boyfriend's Instagram. So I, I'm down for a little couple posts, but not 24-7. I'm good with that. But then you not wanting to take a picture with me at all and post it? Oh, no, baby. Like, why are you trying to hide me? What?

You want to hide all this? Are you kidding? Oh, yeah, no. For sure. Agreed. Okay. Last one is they spend five hours a day on social media or insist social media is evil. Yeah.

Honestly, the greenest flag is a man not having an Instagram. So if they're spending five hours a day on, scrolling like yeah what are you doing as a man sorry like yeah go to work get a job like hello go to the gym um so yeah no like you have no instagram or you have 50 followers perfect i love last post in like 2021 yeah that's my man i will say the hack now is like kiley in your next date you got to ask them can you pull up your average screen time for oh yeah apps and let's see you know let's see let's see That's what you'll know. That's all you need to know.

Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, Kylie, thank you so much for coming on and being honest. It's been so amazing. And I just want to make an announcement to every man ever that the DMs are officially open. Yes. And for these men, where can they find you on socials and for everyone else? Yeah.

So I'm on Instagram. I think my name is like Kylie with three E's Marie. And then I'm. I'm on TikTok, but really, I'm basically just on Instagram. So go ahead and slide on in because I'm like, I'm excited. I'm excited. I know. I'm excited.

No, thank you guys so much for having me. I needed a good, like, tea time with my girlies. And you were the perfect two to do that with. So, no, you were so amazing, Kylie. We're so proud of you. Like, you know me. Like, very, very proud of you. And I'm so hopeful and optimistic for this, like, next era and chapter in your life.

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Listen to Drink Chams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Oh my God, Rachel. I am, like, I cannot believe that we just got that in the best way because I'm so proud of Kylie.

I obviously met Kylie on my season of The Bachelor and just to see where she is now. Like, it sounds crazy saying, like, oh, it's such a transformation, but it really is. Like, I mean, just how well spoken she is now, now that she ever wasn't well spoken, but just like to hear her like openly talk about this, openly talk about like her wants, her needs, like knowing her worth and like who she is and what she brings to the table. It's really day and night. And I'm like, I'm just, I'm like a proud sister right now. I know. And I'm so happy, A, because you guys are so close and the fact that

she was able to come on and really talk about where she is now. And I think it takes a lot of courage. Kylie obviously has been through a lot with Avin. She knows that the public has an opinion. And she's been privately working on this for so many years. And to finally now come out and be like, listen, he is not my person in the nicest way. I just, it shows how mature she is and how much love she actually did have for him. I'm just like in shock at the fact that she.

she thinks there could ever be a man that she would DM that wouldn't propose on the spot. Okay. I will say and I'm like, I love you, Kylie, but that's her, like, to me, I'm like, that's her biggest flaw. I'm like, she does not realize how, like, beautiful of a person she is inside and out, like, truly. Like, Kylie would not hurt a fly. Like, she's gorgeous, like, so hot.

Like, I'm just like, Kylie, like, come on. I would be insufferable. Like, I mean, I am insufferable. But, like, I would also be insufferable if I was. you like you would never see the end of me no like really because first of all like we have to talk about her glow up is fantastic but uh her in paradise three years ago every single man when i tell you i watched this front row see came down the stairs and wanted kiley had a man and i would love for her to go back to paradise and to have every man come down and steal her and even if she she had a guy she's

like you know what i'm going to explore it because i think she's She deserves to feel so wanted. She, like you said, she's stunning, beautiful, gorgeous, going to be a doctor, delivering babies. Crazy. Loves her family. Like, could you imagine a better package? Like, you just like cannot. No.

No. You know what? And like you talking about Paradise, I just have so many ideas and thoughts of like what I need it to be for this upcoming season. Because I feel like, granted, y'all season was incredible, but it was too nice. Like, I'm not going to like lie. Like it was too nice. friend island. And I'm like, I don't want that, you know, like, I was really hopeful that even

though you guys were all friends, which is why I was doing my due diligence, I came off my season, was like, here's the run down. Like, okay? You came down and you tried. I did. I was like, okay, so you guys are all like just on your best behavior. This is nuts. Get me out of here. The girls are such good girls to the fact that they were like, if someone had even expressed interest before they met the man, they were like so respectful of it. Right. But it's like, and you came down and you're like, okay, what are we doing? I was trying to do that. But even like, like,

hearing to this day, like Kylie be so respectful of a connection that happened three years ago where everyone I feel like has fully moved on. It's like it is a testament to like how good your guys' friendship is. But like you said, next season will not be friendship by. No, I need, I need mayhem.

Like, I think that's what Bachelor needs. Like, I don't know. Like, you know, we tried. But like, I need it on paradise because like that's the fourth.

format that, like, you know, I feel like it comes in its best way just because of, like, the nature of it. Like, granted, Bachelor, Bachelorette seasons can get messy, but it's like not, that's not its core. Like, Paradise, it's meant to be, it's meant to be. So I'm like, I need her down there. I need her all eyes on her. I need another baddie walking down.

I need to see the battle of the baddies. Like, you know what I mean? I just want nonsense. I want it all. I need to see men crying over the fact that kind of got pulled for a day. And she said, yes. Precisely. I want a man being like, I want to get engaged to you. And I want Kylie to be like, well, I'm still going to like explore this connection.

Because I deserve to see if I have a connection there. Correct. And I need to see which man can handle that, which is going to be a little sad about that and act out. So, you know, like I just next season of Paradise will be it. Mark my words. If I had anything to do with it. Which you should. Hello.

I need to be in the board room. I need be producer. Nobody listens to me. I'm telling you, I'm the agent of it. I know what it needs to be. Hello. Charity needs to be the EP on this. But I also like really would love to see Kylie in a relationship that she can live out publicly. Yeah.

I feel like we've missed and Kylie is missed like she said sharing so much of her life. Makes me so bad. Because of like hiding something. And I can't even imagine that feeling. Like what do you mean? I'm in Turks and Kikos and I can't post. where I met with my man. Are you crazy? What do you mean? That's like that makes me so sad. Makes me so sad. And you know what? I'm like I'm such a spiteful person that I'm like, okay,

but like I'm going to post it anyway. Like let's see what you do. You know what I mean? And I'm like Kylie's so nice. Like I just, I am so excited to see her flourish. That's like all I care about. Like this year is going to be so good for her. Like I feel it in my bones. Like you too. I think that taxicat theory is going to happen. for her. Correct. She's done the word. She has no idea what's coming.

Like she really does it, which I love. I love that. Okay. The taxi cab theory, I learned it on sex in the city. And the taxi cab theory is that women will go through their life with this list of things that they want. And when they find that man, they settled out. Men can go through life and meet their dream woman who has every single quality.

But if he's not ready, he won't settle down. Then one day his taxi light will go on and he might meet someone that isn't his dream woman or that doesn't have these qualities, but he's ready to settle down. So he just settles down. It just settles down. And it's so interesting because I think women go through life truly wondering, is this real? And do men actually just settle when they're ready? It is so I feel like it's been proven time and time again how real and true that theory is. that I'm like, unfortunately, I'm a believer of it. Like. And I think that's why so many women, like Kylie, have said that like their biggest fear

is watching a relationship that they put so much work into and that someone they feel that they put positive change into the world and then watching them give it to someone else because their taxi lights on. Like it's night, like, that's why she's having nightmares because that's a nightmare. No, 1,000 percent. And it literally like, it's like, build a man. Like, I'm not going to build, like, if I'm, if I have to build a man, it's going to be mine.

And granted, I already don't want to do that. But what I'm certainly not going to do, like, respectfully, I'm not building a man for him to go take everything that I poured in and do it elsewhere. No. Like, terrifying. And that happens so many times. Like, it is actually crazy how many times it happens. How many times I've seen it happen with my friends?

How many times? Hello? With me? So it is what it is. Like taxi cabs and men. Oh my gosh. This is just such a crazy situation. And it feels crazier, the fact that no one has spoken about it for three years.

But we all like kind of knew. I think that's the thing. I think we were all just like, especially like our like inner friends, like just respecting that and respecting her wishes. But I don't even think it was her wishes. Like I think like she probably had this desire to want to be in a place. where she can like obviously live her life to the fullest and not you know hide parts of it but also she just loved him so much that she really just went with what he ultimately I think desire

and wanted so I know yeah I know it's so hard I'm like kind of like I feel it because I'm like I care about Ava like she cares for him so much and it's like wishing him all the best like truly I've like been in her position where I'm like it just want the best for you but I'm so happy she's going to get the best for her. This is why I feel like also how she talked about it and just like where she's at is how I know for a fact that like all good is coming back to her because like like we said, it just it came from such a mature place but also just that to me is like good energy. Like that's good energy that she's putting out about like her past trials and tribulations,

truly. And now like granted they're no longer together, but she wishes him well. and I know like whether or not he wishes her well or not, I don't really know like the ins and out. But like she's confidently speaking that and she's confidently putting that into the universe and the atmosphere. So I just know it's it's making its return back to her. It's coming.

And I can't wait to watch it on the beaches of Thursdays or at your wedding. At my wedding. The day as far will be, it's going to be sickening. That would be. Who the man is going to be. Can we talk about like we have discussed that Shane is. a beautiful man. Kylie is so stunning. That would be an outrageous couple. It would make me like nauseous. Like looking at them like in the best way I had to be like in a trance looking at them

because they're both beautiful. I feel like they have to do that just so I can watch. At this point I'm like truly just for the plot. Like you know what I mean? I don't ever like no let me not say I don't ever suggest things for the plot but like I need it for this plot like for this year at least how do we how do we make sure he hears should we just send Shane this podcast like just a clip yeah yeah yeah no literally we will I will no context like I said I am working there are also some gorgeous men on Taylor season like she truly could I'm trying to think it would be like her like her type I genuinely don't know yeah you would know better yeah she needs someone yeah she needs someone that's very like very family oriented um I know she know she's like very family oriented um I know she

She likes, like, tall. There's a lot of tall men on that season. No, I know. I'm like, there are family-oriented men. They love their faith. Hmm. Oh, what's his name? No, I don't, I mean, he's a great guy, but I don't think him and Kylie, like, Lou.

I don't see them matching. Really? Like, but it could, no, I don't. I do, I do, too. But I'm like, maybe for Kylie. but who knows honestly we're going to have to meet them in person and matchmaker that's honestly let's just

let's do a little segment we got time Kylie the Bachelorette like we can do it here the mini series let's get creative hello okay well I can talk about this for hours thank you guys for listening

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