Bachelor Happy Hour - Leslie’s Paradise Farewell and Golden Friendships | Golden Hour

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are reuniting with Leslie from Gerry’s season and “Bachelor in Paradise”! Leslie is here to chat all about her time in “Para...dise,” her dating life, and more. She gets into her reconnected friendships with the women from her “Golden” season and reveals who she still keeps in touch with. She also tells us how dating has been since she’s returned from the beach. We then get some of her advice, starting with the question of the day: What advice do you have to people who fear getting older? Plus, Leslie asks Kathy and Susan every question she’s been dying to ask! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:03 not only answering your questions and chatting with your Bachelor Nation favorites, but given our advice and our opinions on what you write in. Okay, so today we have a very special guest. Please welcome my very good friend, our very good friend, from our season of Golden Bachelor, Leslie. Hey, Leslie, how are you doing? Welcome, welcome. So good to see you. Long time, no. See, I had FOMO so bad when you guys were there.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I almost don't recognize you, Leslie. You're not in a bathing suit in a cover-up. Oh, wait, wait, wait. You want to know something here? That's funny that you said. As soon as we're done here, my pool is still open. It's 90 degrees in Minneapolis today. Oh, my God. And I do have my bathing sit on. Look. She's ready to go. All right. We have so much we want to dive into today and the short amount of time. So let's get things started. Okay. We're going to question you, first of all. What word would you use to describe your paradise experience?
Starting point is 00:04:06 One word? Oh, my God. Okay. That's three. I know. There's not one. Fabulous. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I mean, it was. Okay, listen, this is my question for you is very self-serving. How did it feel reuniting? your friendships with the other golden ladies hi um well it was really funny because when i got in the van that first day and you guys are waiting for me because i kind of goofed up on the time whatever but you were waiting for me and you're all waiting for me and i got in and it was like at first i was you know we hadn't seen each other so long and and it was just like it was like a beat where i had to go wait a minute here are my girls okay hi guys um yeah it was really
Starting point is 00:04:55 And then it was like we, it was like we had never been without, yeah, it was weird. I mean, you would have been there right there. That's a real friendship. Yeah. It was like we, Leslie, you and I shared a room in paradise. And I have to say, shared a room with you was so much fun. Yeah. Watching Leslie do her makeup and her clothes. I mean, it was just fun.
Starting point is 00:05:19 It was fun to get to know you. We did have fun. I mean, my whole bedtime thing. Kathy is sitting there going, what's that? Now, what's that? What are you doing there? It's funny. Well, because you just have this whole routine of face stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I did. And you don't, Kathy, you do the same thing. Yeah. Different stuff. Okay. Leslie, is there anything you would have done differently in paradise had you had the opportunity to do it again? You know, I don't think so, Susan. I mean, I kind of just, you know, I'm not kind of.
Starting point is 00:05:54 kind of girl where I go along to get along. I mean, I just was there. I felt really good about experiencing the whole thing. Um, I felt like you. And Gary, I thought you guys were. Yeah. I mean, right wrong in the beginning there. Yeah. We, you know, again, they didn't, they didn't have a lot of guys for us. So, I mean, it was, it was kind of what it was. But, you know, I felt like we were just kind of, I know. I felt like we were kind of like one big happy family, to be honest. I, I, I, I, didn't feel that there was, you know. But, Leslie, let me ask you something. So, and actually, to be fair, you and I've sort of touched on this before, with Gary Turner,
Starting point is 00:06:35 that is the Gary from our season, you were in, obviously, everyone knows, you were very emotionally invested and had your heart broken at the time. But now let's fast forward to Paradise. What you just said, none of the guys you knew, we all knew, we were all friends, the guys knew we were friends, the gals knew we were friends, friends, friends. But in a way, didn't it make you, for me, I mean, Gary was never interested in me and I was never interested in him, our Gary Turner. But didn't it make it fun for you knowing when you came to paradise that we were just going
Starting point is 00:07:09 to be there for the young ins, we were going to have fun together? Wasn't that sort of freeing in a way? It was so freeing. I felt like a big weight was off, you know? And I mean, you know, we had talked about it. if our guy walked down the beach and we were to be like, you know, this is our guy. Leslie and I kept walking, Leslie, we kept walking down the beach. Remember in the mornings going, just looking down?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Where is he coming? Are they bringing up this morning? But, you know, but other than that, I felt it was just like so much pressure. When people say, did you have a better experience than a golden? It wasn't like a better experience. It was just different. It was just, I guess, maybe a little more fun in a way. because I felt like it was more free and you had more time and you got to know yeah
Starting point is 00:07:57 couples too wasn't just all women not in competition and not like is he going to talk to me is you know that whole thing and right so it was just different and maybe I'm different too so okay tell me about you dating life are you out there are you dating yet anybody special no no no to all those I I mean people don't get it Leslie people don't understand And I've said this to you when you and I've talked, Leslie, you're a beautiful person inside and out. Thank you. Why men do not, you know, are not, I talk to C.K. a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:34 C.K. is always saying to me, Kathy, why don't you have a guy? Why doesn't Leslie have a guy? Why doesn't Nancy have a guy? And I'm always saying, C.K., you know, get your buddies and line them up and send them because they don't reach out to us. Don't you wish you could just answer that? I mean, really. Why do you think?
Starting point is 00:08:49 I can't answer. I don't. I mean, you know, part of it, you know, living in a, living, not a small town. Minneapolis is not a small town. But I've lived here my whole life. And so I know people. I knew people before I got on the show, you know, because I was teaching all the time. And I had tons of people in my classes.
Starting point is 00:09:08 So, and it's just, you know, it's like a small, big town. So you just know everybody. If you met the right person, would you leave that town? You know, I don't know. No, Leslie, come on. we've talked about this, come on. I'm not leaving my grandkids. I'm not leaving my grandkids, no.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But I would definitely go back and forth. I mean, who wants to be here in the winter? It's, ugh. But, you know, but I love summers and I love, like, October's my favorite month. But my grandkids are here, but yes, I would definitely travel. I would go. I would come back. I would keep my condo here all the time.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And, I mean, you know. Never give up your base, right, home base, but you would go stay with them for a couple months and then come back. Exactly. And both parties would have to be willing, correct? Yes, exactly. And the reason I pushed you is, because you and I've talked, Leslie, and you always initially say, I wouldn't leave my grandchildren.
Starting point is 00:10:03 But you would. You would, just like I would, if for the right guy, go back and forth. You know, for the right guy, if I'm cuckoo crazy about him, I will follow him to the ends of the earth. You know, that's just, I'm like that. I'm hopeless romantic, but he's got to come to Minneapolis, too. I've been, I've been, I say that all my life and somebody corrected me and said, that was me. It was me.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Hopeful romantic. Oh, okay. So you think I'm saying I'm a hopeless romantic and my death and Susan, you're hopeful. But Leslie, would you date a lot? Because Leslie, you look young, you act young. You know, we're going to talk about your dancing in a minute. How young would you date? And I'm serious when I ask this.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah, I know. Well, I joke about, I would never date anyone that. that's 39 because that's my oldest child. But, and I wouldn't date anyone, 49, I don't think. I would maybe go 55, 56, because that's 10 years younger. I mean, I don't know, you know, dating, dating young for me is like 60. I know, I know, like dating young for you, what, Leslie? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Dating young for me is 60, you know, when I say, I, you know, I'd go younger, 60, you know. Yeah. But it's not like we're out looking for an age, you know what I mean? It depends on the person. I'm not looking for an age. I'm not looking for an age at all. But I, you know, I just, I got to keep it real, you know. Well, also, you know, you work.
Starting point is 00:11:27 You teach dance, which I want to know what's your favorite dance. What is your favorite style of dance? Well, it's hip-hop. But do you dance other dances, though, don't you? I don't. I've never ballroom dance in my life. I like Latin. Yeah. I mean, I can do it.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Wait, you have never ballroom dance, Leslie? Never. Never. Never. I mean, well, when Gary and I went on our date, it was salsa, I guess. I guess you call that salsa. I was just following his lead. I don't dance like that.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yeah. You know? So, okay. But I, you know, I dance. I teach hip-hop. I teach kids hip-hop. My dance class is called dance jam. It's like follow-long dancing and I choreograph every song.
Starting point is 00:12:15 So, you know, I mean, when I can't. I know you. It's so much fun. I want to come to class. When people say, oh, you're a dancer, I'm like, I don't really call myself a dancer. I call myself a fitness dancer. You know, like. Yeah. And it's a fun way to exercise. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, of course, I can dance and I've taken dance my whole life in skating. But, and I'm choreographing a bride and her room dance on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I do things like that. You know, so, and I've done flash mobs and I've done all that stuff. But, you know, I'm not. I'm not like Tate McCrae or anything like that. So who do you, who do you, what are the qualities like? I feel like, you know, you've been married before and you've dated. What, if you could find the guy, what are the really important characteristics for him to have? They have to be funny.
Starting point is 00:13:08 They have to make me laugh. I mean, we all love to laugh, all of us. I feel like they, yep, sense of humor. They have to align with my moral compass, which. that's a few things we don't need to talk about that but they have to align with that um they have to be fit oh no no no wait wait wait morally what is a moral exactly you i think what you're saying and we don't have to say which side of the aisle you're on but you're i know for fact leslie that you want someone who you can who shares your political
Starting point is 00:13:43 ideology and that's really important and there's nothing wrong with that it's important to me It's important to me. It's more important to me than religion, to be honest. I don't need someone Jewish, you know. I just don't want someone uber religious on whether a Jew or a non-Jew. You know, like, I don't want someone. I'm very more traditional Jewish. I'm not like, you know, I don't celebrate the Shabbat every Friday.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Really? Can I tell you a very funny story? You'll laugh at this. You know, I grew up in a very Jewish neighborhood and all my friends were Jewish. and what is the what is the uh is it passover when you have to have the separate in the kosher household you have to have the separate spoon separate silverware for milk and dairy for dairy and meat that's if you keep kosher yeah well they kept kosher yeah they kept kosher right you're right they kept kosher and what did i know they had to bury the silverware in the backyard yeah i mean yeah
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Starting point is 00:19:43 Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Marikultura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Who would you say you're closest to in Bachelor Nation? Well, I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. Teresa and I are very close, but I have to say, since Paradise, I feel like I'm really close. Kathy. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I do. Because you spent time, you slept in the same room. That's what happens. But Leslie, I love
Starting point is 00:20:20 you for saying that. I feel the same way. But we've also had some, you know, hard conversations. And I love that that we can share. Because that to me is what a really good friend, be honest, whether we're talking about a man, you know, a relationship with a man or a female
Starting point is 00:20:35 friendship, I think those are important qualities to have. And you and I've been able to do that. And I really appreciate that. So thank you. Thank you. I mean, you know, Teresa and Ellen and Sandra, I mean, you guys, you know, I love all of you guys. I just feel like Kathy, you know, I'm sure you understand the Susan. Of course.
Starting point is 00:20:54 She says what, she says what is in her head. There's no filter. And sometimes she says it over and over and over again. And then sometimes I have to, you have to stop saying that to me. You know, like I feel like I could say anything to her. Yeah. And not what her feeling. And I think that, I'm going to take that.
Starting point is 00:21:11 that is a compliment because I and I do try to not repeat myself but you're right Leslie I'm I am guilty of that sometimes but you know when I go on my next date I'm not doing it do you stay in contact with anybody else from from paradise yeah oh from paradise well I you know what I do I text those those young girls I you know lay and I are texting a lot um cat um you know I got really close with parisa I just love them so much. I say, you know, I'm sure that Kathy feels like this too. She stayed on longer. But I feel like I came home with like six daughters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How did you watch the end of the show, obviously? And how did you feel about the end? I, it was perfect. The ending was, it was so happy
Starting point is 00:22:01 for them. Couldn't be. It was exactly what I thought of how it was going to end, to be honest. I just, can I just say, Leslie, you and I are doing something wrong because Alex and Andrew are in Tokyo, Japan with drag. Wait, I don't know what's going on over there, but they're traveling there. Bailey's getting ready to go to China and somewhere else. They were in Portugal this summer. Like, what are you and I doing wrong?
Starting point is 00:22:24 Well, you guys went on your saying. We go to St. Martin. We go every year, Leslie. I know. The door's always open. Well, I want to, but I have my retreats. I don't know. I feel like it's already like piling on.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Well, you know, But sometimes, Leslie, sometimes if you want your life to be different, you got to do something different. I'm going to L.A. in a week. Then I'm going to New York. And, you know, I am making my own way. Wait, what are you going to L.A.? Well, I'm going to, I told you I was going to L.A. because I'm going to kind of, I'm, I'm the smoke spokesperson for the, for the suicide prevention, you know, the T.D. Hirsch suicide prevention. and they're doing a walk run at UCLA on Sunday the 28th, and I'm going to be there and people can walk with me. God, I would love to have done that. Yeah, obviously, it's a good cause.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Sorry? New York. New York. I'm doing a few things when doing a podcast. The timing was never right, but it's right this time. So I'm going to do that. And then I'm going to see Stephen Colbert. I cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:23:34 It's kind of on my bucket list. I'm taking April. all. I know the percussionist, and she's getting me tickets. And so doing that, when is this? That's October, like 14th or something like that. And Teresa's coming and she's meeting me in New York. And I'm going to be teaching a class at a lifetime. In Long Island. Oh, you should come to my class at lifetime. Wait a minute. October 10th. Well, do this later. We can do this later. You can do this later. You can get to schedule later. So now we're going to move into our advice.
Starting point is 00:24:06 portion of the episode. We're going to kick things off with our question of the day. So, Leslie, we definitely would love your thoughts on this. The question of the day, so many young people fear getting older. What advice do you have to anyone that's afraid of aging? That's a good question. But that is an easy one for me to answer because people, the young people, I'm sure they, same thing with you guys they come up to me all the time and they said you make looking older so like easy and great and um i don't fear it when i look at you guys and you know the golden bachelor girls um so basically i just say you know the other day i did like a talk with like 15 22 year olds and they asked me all these questions and i and they said which you know they same question i said you know
Starting point is 00:25:04 what you guys. This is what I say. Just live life. Never say no to anything. You know, always, you know, think first before you say some things, but be free. Just be free and open to things and just, you know, experience life because that's really all we've got. We've got our family. We've got our experiences. And, you know, I did say you got to take care of yourself because when you get older, your body is your temple. And it's really your only. thing, you know, that you've got to be strong and stuff. And there are good qualities about aging, like what we know, what we've learned throughout life. And you don't worry about the small things so much. I know. I feel bad for them
Starting point is 00:25:49 because they're always worrying about things. I'm like just. But it's hard for us to say that to them when they're going. So, so Leslie, you must be reading our mind because the, the question of the actually leads into our advice portion of the episode and um so i'm going to ask you a couple questions and it actually is just a follow on of what you just started to talk about um what advice do you have to goldens or other adults that are past their 30s that you know that we still struggle with body image and fitness yeah we Susan and i get so many write-ins asking for advice about dealing with body changes you know especially during pregnancy what advice you do you have for anyone struggling with maintaining fitness or finding a place for it in their lives?
Starting point is 00:26:36 So it's not just, you know, the 30-year-old, we all. So I'm curious what you think. Yeah, I mean, I have actually my book club, they're younger than me, and they are going through menopause right now. And I was just with them last night. And I said, the best thing you guys can do for your bodies when you're getting older is do weight-bearing exercises. I mean, we all need to lift weights when we get older because that is what's going to keep our body. bones healthy. And, you know, as far as just, you know, even if you have a small set of weights at your house and just do, you know, you can go online and find any exercise and 10-minute workout, you know, you don't have to. If you don't want to go to a gym, you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:27:17 But I would just say, you know, got to keep moving. I mean, really, you got to get off the couch. You got to keep moving. You and I, Leslie, we've talked about this as you and I in paradise. We were doing our push-ups on the beach, lifting weights. We were. Yeah, we are as fit as any of those young. I was lifting Kathy over my head. But probably more fit than some of them. I'll pay to see that.
Starting point is 00:27:42 That's overstated the case just to teach. But one, I train with weights. I have a trainer. I train. I'm in the gym three days a week. I have power walk. You know, we talked about all this. But one thing that I think Golden's really anyone over the age.
Starting point is 00:27:58 of between 40 and 50 and onwards it's all about fitness keeping your bones strong all of that being able to move but it's also about not breaking bones right and having balance and having strength because as we get older i broke my elbow you broke your wrist yeah and it's because freak accidents are going to happen but when we you and i and people who work out a lot if we tend to, you know, jostle and lose, we can regain our balance because we've done, we spend a lot of time doing those fitness. Except when you're walking in heels and water, then you fall and break your elbow. But take it from me, one that didn't work out ever, and it's never too late because I've just begun and I am lifting and it's a struggle. It really is. But to me, it's like a challenge.
Starting point is 00:28:48 But it becomes a part of your life, Susan. If you do it long enough, it'll come. You know what? You guys, it's a habit. A habit. It takes. 30 days to get into a habit. I think it takes 30 days to break a habit, whatever. But there's people that are struggling saying, well, I never worked out. I'm going to do this. I can't do that. You can do it.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You can do it. You can do it. You just got to start slow. And just put one foot in front of the other. I mean, it's easy for me to say because it's always been a part of my life. Well, yes. And so I never had to start somehow, you know. But I would just, you know, I'm a motivator.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I just want people to get healthy and be healthy and strong. And, you know, some young people need to get up and move, too. It's like, you know, the good thing about, like, the Pilates craze with the, like, I teach up every former class. But that is helping younger people exercise because they really like that class. And they're like in there all the time. I love the reform. Yeah. So it's hard.
Starting point is 00:29:46 It's kind of a movement. It is hard. I know. And what do you tell women, Leslie, because I'm sure you teach them in your dance classes. women who've just had babies pregnancy because for me that was a struggle to get fit again after having babies you know what do you do you have those ladies in your class well I do have people coming in but I just always say take a slow you know um even in my former class today I had somebody that had just had a baby and she just did what she could I mean you you're
Starting point is 00:30:19 showing up you're that's the first that's the hardest part you're showing up you're there you're ready to go, whether you do half the class or a few exercise, take a break, I don't care. And I always say that to people, don't worry if you can't follow me. I mean, just go at your own pace. It's funny when people talk about finding time, finding a place in their lives for fitness. I've said this to Susan, like put down your games on your computer. Everyone has 24 hours in their day. Anybody can find starting out 10 minutes for fitness.
Starting point is 00:30:53 and you don't start out like you and I do, lifting weights and working out the way we do. But we didn't start, you know, we didn't start this yesterday. And so that's my advice to people is. I would say start with, you know what the best exercise is? Push-ups. You start on your knees. You do five.
Starting point is 00:31:08 You have the next day, you add a couple more. Or against the kitchen counter. That's where I do them. My bureau, I did the 50 challenge, 50 squats, 50 push-ups. Yeah. It's not. And sometimes. When I turned 50, I did 50.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I did 50 in a row on my toes. Then it was only one. And that was a long time ago, but only once. I'm doing it. You and I did 100 in paradise? Oh, I do 100, but it was 20 at a time. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:31:35 You can't do it all at once. If you can only do 10 and then an hour later, do 10 or 15 more. You should have seen me in the hotel room. I probably 200. You and be both. Every five minutes, okay. I might as well do another. Yeah, I am.
Starting point is 00:31:50 That's how people can do it. Well, your advice is great. I mean, everyone knows Leslie is synonymous with dance and fitness. So we appreciate your advice on that. Hey, everybody. This is Matt Rogers. And Bowen Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Lost Cultureistas.
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Starting point is 00:37:01 on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We've gone to ask you some questions, Leslie. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Sorry, my dog is bothering me right now. Okay, go ahead. We're going to let you ask us anything you want. Oh, I could ask you guys. You get to, the floor is yours.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Be careful. I have your number. I know. Do I ask you separately things? Whatever you like. It doesn't matter. Okay. Susan, tell me about your boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:37:36 So Kathy and I, yes. Kathy and I were on vacation and I had an espresso. I know how you met him. Yes. And communication was difficult in the beginning, but he's a charming gentleman. Are you learning French? So I've taken every course. I'm starting to be able to read it and understand it.
Starting point is 00:37:58 But when I speak, I sound like I have a Spanish accent. She sounds like she's from Brooklyn. Bonjour, I could do. That is funny. I can say. But no, I'm not good at it at all. He, however, has a. a heavy accent when he speaks his English words and we crack up because he'll repeat the same
Starting point is 00:38:20 word 12 times and he gets louder and I go I don't know what you're saying and then finally it'll dawn on me. Kathy, remember Fort Knox? And I find I go, Fort Knox. I say this. I go, no, you didn't say. You thought you were saying. Things like that. But when it's really. Well, my ex-husband's, my husband is French, but he does, I mean, he speaks English, but he does have a heavy accent. Yes. If it's really, really important, he'll say this is important. And we both run and we get the translator so that we can speak freely. Wait, Leslie, did you speak French? No, I mean, I took French in school. But I mean, I understand it way better than I can speak it. You do? See, I don't understand. And he speaks French to my grandson. And so my grandson, my daughter-in-law is Mexican. So she speaks Spanish to him. And then David speaks French to him. And then Eli, I speaks, he's teaching him Hebrew.
Starting point is 00:39:16 So he's got, he's good. That's how it should be. I know. I know. I wish they would have done that for me. But there are, okay, Susan, I don't know if you know this, the new iPods, Air pods, have a translator built in. I have them.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I have them. We have the glasses. We have the air. But you always need this. Always. You have to have. And that's annoying. And he says, darling, how are we going to learn? and I don't know you're right wait can I just tell you Susan I don't know if I've told you this story but Liz you'll get a crack out of it I noticed Liz you had no questions for me we'll take that up later I do I just curious about it give me a chance to ask what is it go for what am I supposed to do I ask Susan now I'm going to ask you happy I was going to ask
Starting point is 00:40:04 you do you miss Paradise as much as I do yes I do I when you said earlier in this podcast that you know you enjoyed Paradise but But it was different. Oh, comparing Paradise to Golden for me, I loved Paradise. I loved being, like you said, having these young adults that actually cared what you and I thought and wanted to be around us and spending time with you. And yeah, I like when I came home, it was rough. When I came home from Golden Bachelor, I missed you guys. I just didn't miss.
Starting point is 00:40:39 You went through something we did. Yeah, that's true. It was, I was dad to be. This I miss. I do miss the young ins. You know, I just, I love them so much. But that was my question. Yes, I do. Okay, but I just have to tell you a very funny story. I haven't met this guy yet, but I'm probably going to meet him. But he called me on the phone to chat with him. And very funny, very nice guy. I haven't met him yet. No phone calls in, no emails. I don't know anything. Very little about him. But the reason he wanted to call and talk to me first was he was on a dating site. And he drove an hour and a half. to meet this woman and they sat down for dinner and he said she was very pretty on the dating out and he said we sat down and she had three words of english and i burst out laughing i said well hell i'm i'm ahead of the race here and i got i'm way more than three words and he started laughing and i said
Starting point is 00:41:34 i have to ask you because you know me a million questions how did that go he said we spent a lot of time staring at our phones translating and I thought to myself oh my god and he said but I learned a very important lesson I said what did you learn he said at least have a short phone conversation with the person before you invite them out for dinner can you imagine I have to hear the person's voice would want to share that with someone wouldn't you yeah I'd have to hear before I drove all that way I'd have to hear the voice the voice is important to me the way they talk if they have good grammar Yeah. Well, you heard what happened to me when I corrected Brian Scrammer, so I'm out of that game. Well, Fred, our first date, he said, I hope you speak French better than my English.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Do you have earpods and do you like to dance? And the earpods, as soon as we met, he took my phone, he downloaded the app. Kathy did a little bit of French. She stayed for one drink and left. And then for three hours, I was looking at a phone. And at one point I said, you know where I come from when I go on a day. or meet somebody, I usually make eye contact. And I can't even tell you what color your eyes are. And we start tracking.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But wait, Leslie, I want to know, have you ever met a guy where, like, I've talked to guys on the phone, and I'm in love with their voice? And then I meet them. And I'm like, where is the closest exit? Well, that happened to me, but it was even worse. I spent two hours on a Zoom with them. And you couldn't get all? Wait.
Starting point is 00:43:09 And then I. What was different, though? Wait a second. Oh, wait a minute. You're in now, Leslie. I know. Okay, so my friend worked for this talkify. It's called talkify. They matched you up. And she was, and she knew I was going to New York for something. This was a year ago or so maybe, yeah, a year ago. And so she said, I have a guy. He's Jewish. He's like, okay, all right. So I spent two hours on a Zoom with them. And he was really nice and cute and we had so much to talk about. You were looking forward to it, right?
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yes. And we just met for coffee. Again, I happened to be in New York. I didn't go to New York to meet him. But he met in coffee. But it was as soon as we met in person, done. None. It was just not.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Done for you or for him or both? I don't know for him. It was for me. The vibe wasn't there. He had a little bit of a crowd. A little bit of a what? Cross-eye. I'd be staring at it.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I'm such an ass. But on the Zoom, he was looking at the screen, but not like this way, but kind of like this way. So I couldn't see. I didn't know. I'm sorry. He was so nice. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:28 This is not nice. But I'm just saying, I think you just, when you meet somebody in person, it's just a completely different thing. I don't know. I thought to do it would. have helped though I really did well not yeah me too I don't know I've never zoomed with a guy and then met him but I I have talked to so many guys on the phone that have the best voice
Starting point is 00:44:52 and then I meet them and I'm like I'm so out I'm sorry because it doesn't take me long like how long does it take you Leslie when you meet a guy to know if you're interested I'd say 15 seconds three to five you're saying 15 is giving that's a lot I know I don't So here's the thing with me now. And I think we all do. I, but Leslie, of course, you're younger than I am. But I, in my mind, I have this image of the man, the look that I would like. But I'm trying to get over that.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I am too. I'm, you know, I'm trying to just be open to whatever they bring and see if we have. Would that be settling, Kathy? No, actually. Because I'll tell you why. because I'm changing what I want. Well, I feel that I feel that way, too. I feel like after the show and me being very invested in Gary, our Gary,
Starting point is 00:45:50 I feel like, you know, that's not the typical person that I would normally go for. And I actually liked the fact that I was open to something different. Exactly. So I was like, oh, okay, I'm growing up. You know, I don't need. I don't need. This is me being a big girl. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, okay, this is good. You know, this is what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to be open.
Starting point is 00:46:13 My daughter's last words to me, be open, mom, don't, you know. So I was. And then, you know, so, and so that was good. I'm glad that I got over there. To be clear, Leslie, you gave it the old college try. You gave it the old college try. I thought very appropriately with Gary. You know, you went to see if there was something there. You came, you saw, you didn't, you know, it was what it was. But I'm saying it, when. When I was younger, I would meet a guy. He didn't have to open his mouth. I would just look at him. And if I wasn't. Think he was attractive. And now that's not settling to answer your question because I'm now realizing that, look, I don't look great compared to what I looked like when I was 30 either. Well, I mean, we aren't getting older.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Right. And so now I want to give men a chance to see what their personality. like are we compatible um you know those things to me are becoming more important like we we had talked to april we had her on a podcast and she was talking about you know the look that she likes and and you know april that's that's her world but i was set to listen to her thinking i have i guess i really am changing because yeah you know if it's like a body type too and forever they had to be built and I don't care a few extra pounds. I don't care about that. It's who you are and how I feel when I'm with you. You know, I want someone that's that that has that takes care of himself
Starting point is 00:47:48 because I do. So I want someone that does that as well. Right. But the point is Leslie, you don't care or maybe I'm putting words in your mouth. You don't seem that you care if the guy is a don't as fitness level, just a guy who goes to the gym, rides a bike. Takes care of you. You know, He may not be as thin as ever. I mean, they don't have to do all the things that I do. I mean, you know, if they ski and snowboard, that's bonus. But if they don't, that's fine. If, you know, I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I just want someone that takes care of themselves. That's all. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Well, I hate to burst this bubble, but you know what time it is. It's time for you to go out and find a guy for Kathy and Leslie. That's going to do it for this episode of Bachelor, Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Leslie, thank you.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Thank you for joining us. I miss you. We're definitely, we always say let's plan something and it never happens. But if you're going to be in New York and you know ahead of time, let me know I'm a couple hours away. So I do get to you. And you know you have an open invitation to Austin. Thank you for coming on. Leslie, you always give great advice.
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