Bachelor Happy Hour - Leslie's Side of the Story: Part 2

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

It's time for part two of Joe of Serena's conversation with Leslie! As the conversation continues, Leslie opens up about what she and Gerry spoke about in the Fantasy Suite, how she knew the breakup was coming once she heard his knock on the door and how this experience has changed her outlook on dating. She also shares never-before-heard details about her relationship with Prince, explains why her past divorces do not define her and reveals what's next.  Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier.

Complex problem solving. Takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. What happens when three brothers take on right-wing media and start winning? I find out on the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. We just want people to live their lives and be happy and be able to enjoy it without some, you know, lunar. tick screaming in their face every three seconds listen to next question with me katie currick on the

iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hey everyone welcome back to bachelor happy hour i'm joe and i'm serena and we are back with leslie for part two part two so last episode we ended just about to talk about the breakup the final moments between gary and leslie leslie when gary came back to your room that night. What did it feel like when he walked back in and did you know what was potentially going to happen? So when I heard the knock in the door, I knew.

Yeah, that woman's intuition kicked in. Oh, yeah. I knew that this was it. It's happened before on the show and I just knew that it was that. It wasn't like I was going to open the door and he was like, I love you so much. I just knew. Yeah, yeah. So that's why I was.

You would just wait. I was crying when he left because what he did when he left, he put his head on my shoulder and started sobbing. I know, yeah. And I just knew. So when I opened the door, I was crying. Do you think you knew in that moment that it was, yeah, because he was really emotional. Yeah. There was definitely a heaviness.

Yeah. Because as far as I knew a few days before that, I was his choice. I was the one. So for him to be that emotional You know it couldn't be a good sign No Yeah Looking back

Do you wish You had said or asked anything Differently in the breakup I feel like there's so many people that leave Like a breakup and say like I wish I'd said this Or I wish I'd asked him that I mean you obviously got a second chance to talk to him But was there anything that

Was there anything that was running through your head after he left Or To be honest no It felt like you left it all on the table I think I said what I needed to say to him. I didn't, you know, I'm not going to grovel. Obviously, I was just blindsided. I, you know, I said what I want to say.

I just really wanted to get out of there at that point and be done. Yeah. Yeah. So I, no, I don't, looking back, I don't have any regrets of how that went. I mean, I ugly cried, but, you know. You look great. Oh, no. You look great.

But, you know, when you're crying and your heart's breaking, you don't care what you look like. Yeah. No, I think pretty crying was the least of your priorities in that moment. And that's okay. Exactly. We touched a little on your children and what they thought. But, you know, we all know that your brother is, was basically like your father. So how did he feel about all of it?

Well, it was very hard and very emotional for him to see because. On a good day, he gets mad at guys, you know, growing up and stuff. And this was, and he's been through all my heartbreak with me and always been there for me. And the good times, the bad times, he's just everything. And he's my everything. And, yeah, it was really hard for him. He just, like, last night he hugged and kissed me and had tears in his eyes. Yeah.

Yeah. That's tough. Do you want to touch on it all how your father passed away? Yeah, I mean, and the reason why my brother is so important to me is because my dad dropped me off at school one day because I took a driving test and failed and he said, I'll pick you up and we'll practice and you take it tomorrow. And it was February and the roads were icy and I just didn't pass. That's okay. I failed my time.

Okay. that makes me feel better but um anyway so you know back then there's no cell phones and i waited i was waiting on my um high school steps for him and i waited and waited and waited and waited and i was just about to go in and call my mom and then my brother drove up he was in the passenger seat and my cousin was driving and he said get in the car and i said stew i'm waiting for dad what are you doing here you know i'm 16 and he's like 21 or 22 and at that point in my life he's just my pesky brother you know yeah and he goes get in the car get in the car now and i get in the car and i said what are you doing here what where's dad and he turned

around he said i'm your dad now i said what are you talking about and then my dad went home and died by suicide and i was the last person to see him and it was really difficult i mean i was 16 my brother was my my brother Robbie was 21 my brother Stuart was 22 my sister was 27 and yeah we were all just yeah that's tough sorry to hear of that yeah I didn't I didn't realize I should do my research you do you have two other siblings I have I have three siblings yeah besides my brother Stewart I have my brother Robbie and then my sister Randy and what did what did they think about your whole journey in the show Um, at first my sister didn't want me to do it, but then she definitely came around and now, of course, she's my biggest fan.

It's always how it works. I know. They always come around. I know. They always do. Um, she just very protective too, because she's 11 years older and she, she's watched the show since conception. And she just didn't, she didn't want me to put myself out there, maybe like that. But she's very proud of me and all that.

And my brother, Robbie, too. My siblings are, I mean, I have an amazing family and I, all my cousins and, and, I, And I just, I'm very, very lucky. I have an amazing family. That's amazing. Any word from the exes? Any exes come out of the woodward? Yeah, there's been exes coming out, but too late.

Too late. I mean, to be honest with you, I don't, I'm not, I don't really break up and, like, be mean about it. Like, you know, I mean, even my ex-husbands, I, I, I, don't, I don't really break up and, like, be mean about it. Like, you know, I mean, even my ex-husbands, I, I, Zach's dad, we were high school sweethearts and we are close. I mean, we've, we've always been close. How old were you when you first got married? 21.

Okay. So I was really young. Yeah. And, but, you know, Brad is great. You know, David, we've gone through obviously some hard things, you know. I've gone through some hard things, especially being married with him. I can say now we're okay when we see each other and we share children and these children are half of both of us and I don't want to ever say anything disparagingly about them because

they are my children's father, you know? Yeah. What do you want people to know about you and your story with your ex-husbands? Because we saw a little bit of it. We know you're married twice, you were divorced twice, you have these beautiful children. And what is something that you want people to know about, you know, you as a woman who's been divorced twice? Yeah. Well, first of all, being divorced is not, you know, it's not like the plague.

I mean, people. It happens. It happens. And with Brad and I, we were just really young. And we kind of just grew, but then I don't like to say grew apart. We just became different. and um but i if i if i needed something in the middle of the night i if i called him he'd help me like he's just you know and i'm very good friends with his siblings and his cousins and um

minneapolis is a small big town so everybody knows each other but um with david i mean there was infidelity in that in that um marriage and um i tried to keep my family together as long as i we could knowing what was going on and I just couldn't do it I mean I wanted to stay married you know I that was all I wanted was to be a wife a mother have a home and you know have it all but I it didn't work out and you know no fault of my own but I couldn't stay married to someone and be in a marriage with three people yeah yeah it should a different kind of marriage yeah and I just yeah And my children, you know, they understand. They love their dad.

They love me, you know. I don't talk bad about him because I have nothing bad to say. Yeah. I think it shows a lot of self-confidence and self-esteem that you didn't want to stay in a marriage that you weren't happy in. And you wanted to find a bigger, better love for yourself. And I think everyone is rooting for you on that journey. Do you like a celebrity crush, like someone that you want to slide into your DM? My celebrity crush, I know I've said this for a long time, and it just stays the same.

David Docoveny. David DeCovine. I actually don't know who that is. No, that's... Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, my God, you don't know? California Cation. Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Okay, hello. Funny story. So, when I first went on the show and when I did Dancing with the Stars, I had to do GMA. And the girl working at GMA, she's like, oh, David Dukufne, he's coming on next. He watched your season. He, he's a fan. I'm like, oh my gosh, listen, maybe he watched you. And then I walked up until I shook his head.

I'm like, big fan, you know. That's so cute. That's amazing. Can I touch you? A moment with David Dukufi. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra. credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person

to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier.

to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it, if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say, like, go blank yourself, right? It's easy.

It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just, like, walk the other way. Avoidance is easier, ignoring is easier, denial is easier, drinking is easier, yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort.

Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Myceles Brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy are building an alternative to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse

from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to political influence and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one download at a time. We should be focusing on the issues that actually occupy a lot of the mental space in Americans' minds but are filled with conspiracies, and we should fill it with the truth and solutions.

Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's talk since we're talking about famous men, maybe one of the famous guys of all time. I'm a big prince guy. Yeah, did you date Prince? Tell us the story.

Tell us the story. Started from the beginning. Like, how did you meet him? Like, I remember when you first got introduced on the show and then that was kind of like just like sprinkled in there. I'm like, wait, what? I know. I know. So, so casually.

Well, it is, you know, I was 18. And my cousin, his name is Bobby Z. He was Prince's drummer. But before even the revolution came a band, he was Prince's friend. And they just were very good friends Like Bobby took him to get his driver's license and all that And not only that, but my brother was his personal valet for 12 years And my sister did his makeup

And so it's a very, you know Minneapolis, everybody has a print story But you know, I have a good one So Bobby introduced us And I mean we kind of it was we were We were the same age and we were 18 and he was amazing. And he wasn't at Prince then.

He was Prince Light. And I'd go to his house and he'd play guitar and sing for me. And, you know, he was just, he was an amazing person. And people think he's so quiet, but he's hysterical. He was just really funny. Again, the humor I loved. But anyways, so I was dancing in a fashion show. And Bobby brought him to the fashion show.

and, you know, he's kind of like hiding behind a pole and I was coming down the stairs dancing. And after he goes, you are a sexy dancer. I'm going to write a song about you. I'm like, okay, okay. So anyways, but that song came out after, a little bit after, but we hung out and we just had such a great time.

And then I graduated high school and I was a professional figure skater in the ice follies. And then Prince started to become Prince. and every time, you know, he'd be in a city, like, especially like in L.A. at the forum, he drove the limo up that ramp, and all the girls saw me get into the limo, and then he'd be writing me these amazing letters throughout my time in the ice bollies, and the girls would get their wine. And back then, we smoked, okay. I only smoked for a couple of years, but, you know, we sit around, and it was the 70s.

And I'd read... Drink wine, smoke cigarettes, and read letters from print. So cool. And letters, I have to say, were a little explicit. And the girls that I'm still friends with from the ice bollies, they still say, God, remember we used to sit around and used to read. It was like, and they sit around just going, ah, like that. That's awesome.

Yeah, so it was just. And then I came home for Christmas break. And we were, again, no cell phones. And we had a plan to meet at a certain location at midnight. And then I was at my cousin's house. at a party that was very close to the certain location and I kept looking at my watch and then I had an hour it's 11 o'clock I got an hour it takes me five minutes to get there and then I see Brad my who is my first husband across the room I had known him before but I see him and he is so

handsome and he's got these sleepy eyes and we started talking and I'm looking at my watch it's 1115 1130 1140 1145 I'm like I had to make a game time decision do I stay this could be my husband really yeah and or do I go to Prince who probably not going to be my husband someday I mean I had to make that decision Leslie this is a movie this is literally the plot of a movie this is crazy they're going to make a hallmark movie about your life for sure oh my God there's so much more But anyways, so 1150, whatever, and I just made that decision to stay with Brad because we were, I looked at him and I'm like, you might be the one. Yeah, I did. I mean, I adored Prince, but at the end of the day, you know, I knew that, I mean, I'm only 18.

And that's, you know, and I have my, I have the show to go back to and then I did another show after that in Europe. So, but I knew that Brad would be like, he felt he was in love with me three years prior to that. So, you know, I made a decision and we have this amazing son, Zach, and like I said, we're friends. But, um, yeah. So not only did Prince write a song about you, you stiff them. You stood him up. Love that. Okay, so let's talk about, um, so let's talk about now.

you just came off this fresh breakup let's call it um where are you at as far as just dating getting back out there if you've thought about it no i've not thought about it um it's just not it hasn't worked out in the past and so i'm i don't know if it's my town i live in i don't know if it's what it is i I really focus on my work and my kids and my grandkids. So sometimes if I go on a date, I'm sitting there going, I'd rather be with my kids. I rather be with my grandkids. And, you know, I have to maybe get out of that mode.

That's why the show was good because I got to focus on Gary. Well, you have to be vulnerable too. You think you can, you think you could open up again? You know, Joe, that's a really good question because being vulnerable, obviously, I got my heart broken. and I really don't want to go through that again right now. Yeah. So, but I don't want to put my walls up again either. I want to, I want to be open. I just, it might take some time.

That's all. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. So you're not ready yet, and that's okay. You're going to take some time. But when you are ready one day, what are you looking for? So when I, I know exactly what I'm looking for. I'm going to not lower my standards, but I'm not going to be so picky.

like I snowboard. I do surf. I do all these things. I don't need to find someone that does all those things with me. I love Broadway shows. I don't need someone to go to Broadway shows with me. I have my girlfriends. I just really want at this stage of my life, I'm going to be 65 next than less than a month. I really just want someone to grow old with and that keeps active and can do things with me. But just really just be still together even. Or, you know, know, again, I want someone that makes me laugh. I want someone that loves life and someone that has a family where we can match our families together and they really click and that loves dogs. And that's really all I want. Yeah, you want a companion. Yeah, I want a companion. Yeah.

I do. When we talk about your time on the show, it's hard because you did go through probably the toughest breakup on the show and it's hard to kind of like look back and romanticize any of it. But it wasn't all bad. And we do look back at your season. Like, what are some moments that stand out to you that you're like, oh, that was so much fun? Yeah.

Even with the other women. Yeah. Well, every day with them was fun. And, I mean, I definitely had hard times feeling my feelings and all that stuff. When you start feeling something and seeing them go on a date with someone else, that real life comes into play. And that, for me, was hard because it brought. up emotions of me like knowing my husband was someone else you know like that whole thing um but

i loved our at tv date i thought that was a perfect date for me and i'm so glad i got to do that um i loved um me coming out of the limo i thought that was really fun and um you know there are other things that maybe wasn't on film but just fun things that we did and you know we had a you know no camera day no mic day and we went shopping had sushi watched a movie you know things like that we we just had fun together and um just getting up in the morning and having coffee and going sitting by the pool and talking to the girls i love that you know and so um i wouldn't change anything i just wish i could have exercised a little more but you know but i swam and um no i i i had a wonderful time And, you know, my time and my moments with Gary were special to me.

You know, he looked at me like I was the only girl in the room, which, you know, other women felt that way, too. And he does have a gift for that. That's for sure. Many bachelors do, I will say. Who are you closest with out of the women? Well, I don't know if I can pinpoint, like, one person. But I have to say that, you know, Susan, Kathy, April, Joan, Sandra, Christina, who is my roommate, I adore her. Ellen.

I just, my heart, my heart is with Ellen. Those were probably the girls I was closest with. And, yeah, I love them all. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast.

Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy, which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it, if it's going to be beneficial to you.

Because it's easy to say, like, go you go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just, like, walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. conservative podcast can have a major political impact, but the Myceles brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy, are building an alternative to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to political influence and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one down. at a time. We should be focusing on the issues that actually occupy a lot of the mental space in Americans' minds but are filled with conspiracies, and we should fill it with the truth and solutions. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of people leave the show and say they learn a lot about themselves or they take something away from it that they've learned about yeah themselves or their

life or something they want to do what do you feel like you took away um i feel like i took away that i can actually even though i'm really nervous and stuff on camera i can actually be articulate and hold my head up high at the end of the day and um last night i brought myself to a different level i mean i feel like wow if i did that i can do anything to be honest um so you found it to be very empowering yeah it was empowering and just the fact that you know if you think about the the scope of the viewership and the audience you know i just kind of i just kind of was like i'm not going to think about that and i said what i wanted to say and all that and other things that i brought away is that I'm very open-hearted and I want to stay that way. I really don't want to

close off anymore. So I feel like I need to give myself time and then, you know, find that person, but not just go through multiple people. You know what I mean? I just want to focus on myself and my jobs and my family. But I came out with having made so many good friends. And of course, I know you guys understand this. You have friends outside of The Bachelor. And I love my friends. I cherish them. But these girls are the only girls that know what you've been through.

Yeah. Yeah. So you do have that special bond with them. It's a really special support system, especially, like, right after the show. Yeah. Because it's like you guys know what we all went through together. Yep. Totally.

Did you watch the breakup with faith? I did. And what were your thoughts on that? well my heart broke for her and um i remember that night and we were just sitting separately not speaking waiting and i wanted to talk to her so bad but we couldn't really talk to each other this was before but i really really thought it was going to be me in faith at the end yeah i did so i was shocked and um i i wish i could have hold her and cry with her a little bit. It's just so hard because she's gone, you know, but my heart broke for her.

Yeah. I feel like you and her, more than anyone, probably have a really special bond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think we're going to. I mean, you know, I haven't really talked to anyone that much since I got home, a text here and there, but I definitely, she reached out to me this morning and gave me such a sweet text. So, yeah. That's really nice. I'm happy to hear that. Yeah. All right, we're going to play a fun little game with you before we do. Okay. If let our listeners know, like, if there's anything else you want to tell us about yourself? What do we want to leave this podcast on? Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, I'm just, like I said last night, I'm just, I was unapologetically myself through this whole process. And I can be proud of that. And maybe that's what I take away. Like, I was myself. I also know that if I didn't have feelings for Gary I probably would have self-eliminated and made space for another girl because if I didn't have feelings for him

you know I don't it wasn't about the TV thing for me it was about yeah I don't think anyone who watched it can doubt that you had real feelings for Gary and if they do they need to go back and watch the season again yeah I might not watch it but like you don't need to watch it I think you're good All right, let's do this rapid-fire questions. You ready?

First thing that comes to your mind. Okay. Okay. All fun, easy questions. Okay. What is the first thing you do when you wake up in the morning? Coffee. What is your go-to ceremony cocktail?

Martini dirty, up olives. Me too. There we go. I knew this. My drink at our wedding was an extra dirty martini vodka regular ice. Oh my God, I love you. What was the first concert you ever attended? Oh, my gosh.

That was so many years ago. You had a private concert with Prince. Well, there you go. Yeah, let's call it that. Well, yeah. What is your love language? My love language is touch. Do you have any dating deal breakers?

Yep. Can't be a smoker. And don't get too clingy. And your name can't be Gary at the time. No more Gary. No more Gary. No more Gary's. How many hours of sleep do you need every night?

I get about six. what is your favorite place in the whole world my favorite place in the whole world I would have to say Vancouver really yeah I'm from Trondon I'm a Canadian girl I went there in the ice follies and it was the most magical place for me

Vancouver's amazing yeah if you could only watch one movie on repeat for the rest of your life what would it be oh you're gonna die clueless oh I love clueless Joe is slueless too

I do not even if I do love clueless I've never even told you how I feel about Cloomis. Well, I know, because when we were in Paradise, you were like, oh, my God, I thought Sharon Dian were so hot when I was a kid. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I did tell you that. You did. Well, we talk about a lot in Paradise.

I forget. Oh, yeah, I can imagine. What is your go-to karaoke song? Oh, I will survive. If you could go on any other day, reality show, I'm sorry, reality show, what would it be? Amazing race. That would be fun. That would be very fun.

If you were to write autobiography on yourself. what would it be called? Ain't my first rodeo. And last but not least, do you believe at love at first sight? I do. Absolutely. All right.

Well, Leslie, thank you so much for coming on Happy Hour. Thank you guys so much. I just adore both of you. And this is really special to me. Oh, good. Thank you. And thank you to all our listeners for tuning in

and make sure to keep tuning in because we have exclusive episodes every week, new episodes every week, and yeah, subscribe to Happy Hour. We have lots more exciting interviews to come, so don't miss a beat. And thank you so much for listening. Bye. Bye. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging. out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening

to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation,

You're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier. Complex problem solving takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. What happens when three brothers take on right-wing media and start winning? I find out on the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. We just want people to live their lives and be happy and be able to enjoy it without some, you know, lunatic screaming in their face every three seconds. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Currick on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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