Bachelor Happy Hour - LIVE from Joey's 'Women Tell All!'

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

Joe and Serena are coming to you LIVE from the “Women Tell All” to get aftermath interviews with some of your favorite women. We kick it off with the man of the hour, Joey, to get all his thoughts and feelings after an evening with his exes!Then, we hear about the Tell All drama as well as what’s next in love for Maria, Madina, Jenn, and Lexi. Plus, we get real with each of the women on the major moments of their journey, and get Joey’s take on his former connections: Was there anything left unsaid? Tune in now to hear it all and be sure to follow!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Thatcher Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here at the Woman Tell All. We are doing a roundtable.

A speed dating episode. There we go. That's better than a roundtable because you're not really sitting around the table. We just watched the live taping of The Woman Tell All. And we're excited to bring you some very exciting, very exclusive interviews. to kick it off with the man himself. We have The Bachelor, Joey, here. Hey, Joe.

How are you doing? Good. How are you doing? Doing good. I survived a conversation with multiple exes. So I'm doing as good as you can do, I guess, right now. Yeah, I think you handled it pretty well. We had...

Pretty well. Not great. You know, just pretty well. All the critique. Let's hear it. No, well, we had Jared Freed on last week. And he was just talking about, like you are like the best bachelor of all time.

Like you really do. You handle all the serious conversations so well. You're very good. You're very good. I appreciate it. No, Jared's great, by the way. I got to listen to that podcast and hear that one because he's hysterical.

But yeah, I think these are just one of those nights that you come in and you just are open to it. But I wanted to give all the women the ability to share anything they wanted to and just to kind of open up. I think a lot of this night was obviously about Rachel too with how for us to finally get a little bit more to talk about and for her to open up about a lot of things that she was struggling with. So really happy that they got the floor. And yeah, it seemed like it was a good night for the most part. Yeah, Rachel was definitely, I feel like, kind of the

main part of the evening for you. How was it seeing her tonight and kind of what were you feeling, expecting going to that conversation? Yeah, I knew that there was going to be still emotions and there was going to be more to the conversation because I think you guys could see also from the taping from that ending that we had. at the Rose ceremony, she, like, there's moments where I was still feeling all the emotions and I can only say so much. So just to get that extra time, I wanted it too and I wanted to see how she was doing. And I think mostly with her, what I just love was the ability to see her again, to see her have a smile on her face for her to still have so much gratitude and appreciation

for it all to understand. We did have that kind of mutual feeling like we knew it wasn't going any further. And I felt that, but we didn't really get a chance to talk about that because when she left, she was still feeling all the emotions. And it just, we didn't, you didn't get to talk that much. So to get that extra time tonight, I think was really big. You see, you have a brown suit on tonight. You've had a lot of, I really liked a lot of your looks all season. What has been your favorite? Whoa. Joe and I went over some questions we wanted to ask and this was not one of them. But we did, we did talk about your brown suit when we were watching. Harry's been crushing it this year, man.

He's making it look better than I actually do. There's been a lot of looks. This brown suit's actually now one of my top favorites. I agree. I thought this was a really fun one that we had for tonight. I think one that I still remember because I got a chance to wear it for Kimmel again was the suit that I wore in Montreal. It's like a blue checkered suit that he didn't even know if it was going to be allowed to wear it

because it was almost too much, but we did get a chance to wear it. That's my favorite suit, hands down. So if you look at the Montreal episode, that's my favorite one so far. You go. Joey's looking good and feeling good tonight. Okay. Now a more serious question. The letter. What were you expecting when you saw the letter? Yeah. I think what everyone was expecting when they hear the words we need to talk. I went to the worst. I think you saw a real emotion about someone I truthfully cared about possibly leaving. So I did think that there was something that happened. But you saw me also say like, what could have happened? Like I didn't talk to her. The last time I left her, everything was so great.

It just was one of those things that I went to the worst thing possible because of my insecurities, because of my fear of someone I truly cared about wanting to leave. And yeah, you saw raw emotions. You saw me being like, why did you even word it like that? But I definitely went to the most negative space, which I wish I could have changed. But I also think it was great for us because she gets to see now, like, how I can get in those moments. And it's real.

So I don't regret how I handled that. It just was one of those moments for sure. And I think people forget that so much can still happen in those days, hours, days that you're apart from one another, that you come back together. You even see you saying like, what happened? I didn't say anything to her. So like what went down in the time that we were apart that has made her feel this way? But do you think that you're kind of like a worst case scenario person? Like when things happen, you immediately jumped to like what's the worst thing that could happen right now? I think that I reverted back to that. I will be the first to admit that I, it took me some

time. It took a past relationship for me to explain to me when I was growing up. It was when I was still in Hawaii. They said you sometimes always look for the negatives. Like you don't try to find the positives and you need to change your perspective and your point of view. And I've been working on it so much over these last years. But I definitely realized through this experience with all the excitement and all the extra stuff that comes with it, I do sometimes go to that negative space too quickly or I think of the worst case scenario. So it's been eye opening to me. It's something that I definitely need to continue to work on. But yeah, that was definitely a worst case scenario moment where I took it that far.

Well, it was, it was set up for you to take it to the first case scenario. She could have worded things differently. Words we need to talk. Every guy has gotten a text like that before and they go there. So I don't think it was not justified, but I do wish I was a little bit more understanding going into it. How do you wish she had worded the note? Joey, I need to see you today because I want to talk more.

Something along the lines of that, maybe. I don't know. Or just like, I miss you so much. Need to see you for a little bit. So, Serena, you should write the notes because I don't even know how to write it. There you go. Bachelor, hire me as your copywriter. And then how about seeing Maria for the first time tonight? I mean, I think people have seen throughout this whole entire time how much Maria and I have always had a great time together.

So just to see her again, to see her have a smile on her face. She seems like she's doing really well. That was actually one of the conversations tonight that I probably wish I was able to talk more and show appreciation to her because I think she deserves to know and everyone needs to that how much, like, we did have so much respect and love for each other. It just was one of those things that she was very unsure about the process and that her being unsure was hard for me to move forward. I think she gets that too and we talk through that. And if anyone else needs to know that, that really was the end of the relationship was because she was so unsure. And I think there's just mutual respect, which it was great to see her tonight. We saw her, uh, her pull you

aside at that last rose ceremony. Was there anything she could have said that could have changed your mind? I don't think so. I think that her pulling me aside, I give her so much credit for doing that because it takes a lot of guts to be able to do that, also to even share that she was falling in love, like to choose that moment and to do that. It takes a lot of courage. So I don't think it would have changed anything because that also goes back to a little bit of like the back and forth. Like that's a tough time to do it. And it was more just one of those things like I'm glad that you shared it because now I know and you have no regrets. But there was another time that it could have happened and it's just this back and forth I'm I know that your feelings are real I

don't doubt that but I need to like I need to go forward with someone I feel like that is there and I don't have the question is there and I think she said that too in our goodbye so that was kind of where I was talking about like I understand it and I think we both have that mutual understanding it just yeah weren't the right people for each other and this process didn't work on on this side for her which I totally understand yeah makes sense last question did Jesse ever actually beat you in tennis oh come on You saw how much that was edited. There was even a moment where I said, I don't even, I have to rewatch it again.

But I was like, I didn't even say that. Like, I don't know what that was. Jesse is also surprisingly good at tennis. That was where the truth is. Like, he was way better than I thought he was going to be. But no, Jesse. Not even close? Not even close?

No. He has a good forehand and he has a decent serve. But if I was playing Jesse straight up, he's not getting to play. He's not going to smoke him. Joey's like, don't ruin my reputation on here. Let's let the record. straight. I'm teaching tennis pro.

I'm not a tennis pro. We've already talked about that. I'm not that good, but I'm good enough to kick Jesse's ass if you gave me the chance. There we go. We're going to be asking him the same question. Let's see what he says. I love to see what he has to say.

He was very stoked on that edit. That was the first time he watched it too. Oh, Jesse did the edit himself. He was sitting at home editing that for sure. He's lying to me probably. That's the most genuine. We've seen Jesse since he's been a host. He was so happy.

He was so happy. He loved it. All right, Joe, we're going to let you. you go, but we will, I'm sure we'll be seeing you. We will see you again. Within the next few weeks. Soon enough. It's good to see you guys. Have a great extra night. Bye, Joey. Congrats on tonight. See you guys. Good to see you. Okay. Now we are here with Maria. Maria, welcome to Happy Hour. Welcome. Hello. Thank you. So, Joey is the first guy you bring home to your family. Yeah. How, where was your head at when you brought him home? Were you, your, your,

yourself like this could be my person um i mean i was open to that i think what it was is that i wanted my family's opinion um i think you guys saw how emotional i got um especially with my dad i was like he's like i see it i seen i'm like do you really like i wanted i wanted their opinion and was so important to me i think to take that next step um so i think yeah i was open to the idea that that could be a possibility but i needed the reassurance from them And do you feel like you got that? Yeah, I got him. Everyone was going, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do it. Let yourself free. Let it go. And then I do it. And he's like, bye, bitch. Do you regret pulling him aside at the row ceremony? Or do you think you could have said or done anything differently? Here's the thing.

Like, Joey and I had this like intense conversation where we were talking about regrets. And he's like, I don't want to ever leave anything left on set. and he was like speaking to me about it and I was like you know what I'm just going to say it in my gut I knew I was going home I'm going to be honest I had a feeling but I was just like I wanted to say it and then I was told you know you know this is your moment to do it because you might not get another moment and I was just like okay I'll I'll take life by the balls and just do it and then walk my ass out I guess but then he still made me stand at the row ceremony and then send my ass home but it's okay we're over it's okay it's okay do you

Do you think you could have got there sooner if it wasn't for all the nonsense drama that you were dealing with all season? What do you mean? I mean, you think that, I guess do you think that fucked up your relationship with Joey? Like, do you think you could have? Like, slowed down the progression of like the relationship

and your feelings for him because like you had kind of that barrier. Yes. Like, obviously I think that because a lot of our conversations were consumed with the drama and it was a lot of me like, having to like protect my character and I was almost like trying to convince him that I'm not this bad person. It was like a weird way to start a good relationship. But after rewatching it back, I think my final consensus is this. Like a man who's going to love me is going to love me and not give up on me. Like there's, I can tell him I'm going to leave 10 times and he's going to be like,

no, you're not. You're going to stay your ass right here and we're going to work this out. Like there's nothing I can do wrong. I'll just say I'm not trying to be. toxic saying that these are things I'm going to do. But I mean, like, I don't believe that I could have done anything different to change how Joey felt about me because I feel like, yeah, maybe it would have helped me get to Fantasy Suites. Maybe it would have helped me get to Final 2. But, like, I don't think I was ever his person. Do you hate him now? Yeah.

What did you say? Do you hate him now? Oh, he's right there. I'm going to go knock his ass out. I'm just joking. I love him. I think he's great. I think he's such a sweet, sweet guy. And, like, honestly, he made makes me laugh. And I think we do that for each other. And that's why, like, seeing him today, I thought it would be a little bit more awkward. But it wasn't. Like, we laugh when we look at each other. Like, it's just, it's nice to see him. And I hope he's happy genuinely. Out of, out of the girls in the house, who are your, like, closest friends? Edwina, apparently. I didn't realize you guys were so tight. She was my queen. I, I bowed down

to her. She is a queen. She was battling tonight. Yeah. I mean, I had a lot more friends than it showed and maybe people think um no we know that because people have come on the podcast like we had jen and we had lexie who were like no like she had friends in the house yeah actually i don't think we had anyone on the podcast that didn't really side with you fight me or talk about me in a mean way that's well that's good to hear because honestly especially jen the sisters um the celties um like i i was good with a lot of girls actually i'm extending my l a trip with the sisters and Jen, we're going to stay a couple more days. So they're probably like the closest that I'm like or the people I'm closest with.

But I was great friends with a lot of people, a lot of them. And I will be great friends with them for a long time. And I'm happy that I met them. What is next from Maria? Still looking for love? Still looking for love. Okay, I need to stop looking over there. But yes, I'm looking for love.

I'm open. I'm ready. Yeah. Amazing. Well, we'll let you go. We know you're in high demand tonight. But thanks for taking the time. time and chatting with us.

Thank you for telling me, guys. You guys are great. You guys have what I want. I love you guys. Bye. Bye, Maria. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

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Up next is Jen. Jen, welcome back to Happy Hour. How are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me back. I'm excited. Of course. Thanks for coming.

How are you feeling after tonight? I'm feeling really good. Honestly, it was just so good to see all the girls again and get together. And the bloopers are my favorite part. So I was really excited about that. The bloopers are always a good time. who are you the close who are you the closest with in the house um i would have to say maria the sisters and star taylor these are all my girls i love them so much what were your thoughts on the beginning

of the night all the the drama the craziness you know you laid back you laid back which is always the smartest move like the people that insert themselves in the back row you're like oh no this is going to get out of control yeah i mean you know what they're There were times I wanted to say some things, but these girls were just so quick with it. And I just, I need to sit and think before I speak, you know, otherwise I'm saying bad things. So, no, it was, it was definitely interesting to watch it all go down. But I think the important thing is at the end of the night, we were able to all really just come together and sort out the differences. And we all hugged it out, which I loved.

There was a lot of discussion around social media, hate and all the trolls tonight. How has that experience been for you? Yeah. You know, I feel very strongly about this. I think that people have been getting very brash on social media because they're hiding behind a screen and they can say whatever they want. And I've definitely been getting some of that as well. And I just, I will never understand the reasoning behind it. And I really just hope that we all just continue to be kinder and ask ourselves like why we're writing these nasty things about people online. But I do think it is disheartening. And, you know, being in this position, I didn't realize that I would be opening myself up to just a world of hate. You know, I kind of live in a bubble. And I think being on social meeting and putting yourself out there, you're kind of interacting with a lot of other different people that might not think in the same things that you might think. Yeah, 100%. You saw Joey for the first time tonight.

Well, before that, you watched your breakup back a little bit. a little recap of the relationship all the way to the end. How was that? Yeah, I got emotional, which I didn't think that I would. But, you know, again, I just think that it means that it was just real for me and seeing what good times that we had was just, it warmed my heart. And I think they were more happy tears than sad tears. So, yeah. And then what was it like seeing Joey? Honestly, it was kind of like seeing an old friend, you know? There are no romantic. feelings there left but I really just wish him nothing but the best he's such an amazing great genuine guy and it's good to see him in good spirits what do you think you learn the most about yourself

from all this I love this question um I learned that being vulnerable is really powerful I think growing up I've always just kind of had a guard up and I've always been afraid for people to kind of see who I really am and so um coming out of this experience you know a lot of people saw the way I grew up and all my insecurities around that and it's just been kind of it's been able it's something that has allowed me to become closer with my friends and my family and that's something that I think is so cherishable you said at the end of the night that you weren't able to look to Joey for answers after the breakup so you found them within yourself can you just speak a little more on that? No, for sure. I think oftentimes in relationships, you always go, you always think,

oh, I need closure from the other person, you know, and you're like wrapping your head around why things happen, whatever, whatever, and you drive yourself insane. And I think at the end of the day, I realized that, you know, closure was really just within myself and realizing what the relationship meant to me and what I learned out of it and understanding that we just weren't each other's person, which is 100% okay. And it just, yeah, I found it within myself to get those answers and soothe myself. Okay. So what is next for you? Are you currently dating? Are you ready to date? What's going on in the real world? Yeah. I mean, I think I am definitely ready to date, but, you know, I am still

in PA school right now and life's just a little hectic. But if the right person were to come along, I would definitely make some time in my schedule. So we'll see. Okay. Last question. What was your favorite part of tonight? And what was the most? shocking part of the night Oh my gosh Okay my favorite part of the night We're definitely the unseen bits of Maria and I talking about knocking on wood

And I really hope that everybody agrees with me Because when you say something that you don't That you don't want to jinx You should knock on wood And I think that that's what it was Thank you everybody Yeah wait what did she say it was She said that you only knock on wood

When it's like bad things But also if you say something good that you don't want to jinx you should knock on what i honestly i think i do them for i'm so superstitious i think i do it for both yeah i do it for both too because you're like i don't want it to happen or i don't want it to not happen and i have to i have to knock twice and if i accidentally go three times then i freak out i have to reset and then knock twice again yeah well that's a whole other thing that's a whole other situation because now i'm going to start thinking that because i'm super superstitious it's rough it's rough out there in the streets

Okay, most shocking part of the night. Oh, most shocking part. Um, um, um, um, um, um, I don't know. Um, most shocking part of the night was, I don't know. This is a really tough question. Everything was so shocking. Most shocking night for me was me crying.

I did not, I'm not a crier, so. Yeah. Like, I didn't expect that. You know what? Watching the whole relationship breakup montage, It just, it's a hard thing to do. It brings a lot of feels to the forefront. Yeah, it's not something that I think people do every day.

Nope, nor should people do. No, definitely not. Well, that was a shocker. Jen, thank you so much for coming back. And we appreciate you. Thank you so much. You're so good for you guys again. Good to see you too.

Have a good night, Jen. Bye. Lexi, welcome back to Happy Hour. How are you? Good. Good. Good. Yeah. Just coming off the tell all, feel good about it all. It's definitely emotional. But it was nice to see everyone come together again in one room. So, yeah, it was great. Were you feeling that way at the beginning when everyone was screaming at each other? You know, the beginning, I think, was a little bit more difficult to watch and to sit there and be a part of.

But, you know, it was nice that there was the reconciliation eventually. And so I think everyone kind of got out what they wanted to. And ultimately, you know, the end result was great. But I think in the time, it was obviously a little bit hard to watch. Yeah, you were right in the middle, too, like between Maria and Medina. Yeah, I was like, hey, guys. But I think, you know, it turned out how I think I really wanted it to coming into this. I remember just saying, like, I really want this to have a positive ending.

I think everyone, you know, no one gets a book on how to handle this show. And it's like, it's a hard thing to navigate. And so I'm just really proud of everyone. I think this is how I wanted. Like, it was such a great season. And so it's nice that we were able to end, you know, everyone being amicable with each other. Yeah. A hundred percent.

Were you expecting it to be like that at the beginning? Or was it more intense than you? thought because I feel like we saw a lot of people like jumping at Leah were things that we weren't expecting. And I mean, I think everyone expected the Sydney versus Maria drama to come to light, but then the Jess Maria drama

kind of took over. Did anything like really stand out to you night that you were like I was not expecting that? I wasn't expecting as many people to jump in. I think I understand it though, right? They want to defend their friends. I think, you know, all the Leia stuff I had to kind of

heard sprinklings of. So I think I knew that was going to come to light and I'm glad they got to hash it out. But yeah, I think, you know, the main thing I thought we were going to discuss was kind of like the Maria and Sinney's story. And so we obviously went into everything, which I think is good because it's healing and everyone got to get out their truth. But yeah, I definitely went on a little bit longer than I thought it would. Yeah. Yeah. How did it feel seeing Joey again for the first time? Seeing Joey again was great. I think I really wanted to express my gratitude to him for how sweet He's been through all of this and, you know, he was such a great listener on our day and just

wanted to, you know, even when I went to him in Montreal and ended everything and, you know, ultimately left the show. Like, we still ended on such a great note. So I'm glad I got to express my gratitude to him tonight. And yeah, it was great seeing him. I hope he's happy. And I guess we'll see that in a couple weeks. Yeah. And you don't regret. You don't regret any of that, right? Yeah. How was watching it back and everything? Because we saw you after. after your 101. So right before the breakup. Watching, I mean, I was like Montreal was a really hard episode for me to watch. I was so emotional, a lot of tears, because it's hard to have like this health issue. And then like it's ultimately the reason things ended, right? So, but I stand down

in my decision because our timelines are different. And, you know, I've said this to even you guys, when we talked about a couple weeks back, like, I take my timeline really seriously. He doesn't need to be on the same timeline as me and that's okay and you know I think we've got to end things on like a really cordial note and everything was you know really sweet he was so understanding so I don't regret anything but um you know it was emotional to watch yeah yeah definitely how has it been I know you spoke about um just people reaching out to you and connecting with you and your story how has that been because I know we did talk a lot about you know the hate and the trolls online and that's obviously a very real part of being on

the show but I think it's also nice to shine light on how nice people and the stories yeah touch people and there are a lot for our listeners there's a lot of you are really nice some of you are assholes but yeah but most of you are nice tonight when they said the hate comment I didn't hear it and so like everyone had their hand raised and I looked around and I was like because they're like have people received hate and I'm like oh my god yes I have and it isn't up for it's like everyone's hands up except for Lexi You're like, not me. Plenty.

Let me just reemphasize that. Yeah, anyways, but no, I have obviously received, unfortunately, you know, messages that aren't very kind, but the good definitely outweighs the bad. I've received thousands of messages from people that have been so encouraging, have said that my story has changed their outlook on dating, has given them the confidence to speak up about their conditions with their partner or someone they're recently, you know, starting a new relationship with and just making invisible illnesses. like I can't like the volume of people reaching out is so special I have people like writing to me while they're in the hospital like messaging me after their date when they opened up to their partner and saying that like I gave them the strength to do that I couldn't even imagine this to have been the reaction that's amazing that's so nice last last question if they asked you to be the bachelorette would you do it um you know I think coming into this I was like very I almost not that I didn't believe this could work but it's

It's just such an unconventional way to meet someone. And so seeing it work so successfully and, like, you know, Joey, go through this whole experience, I would say never say never. You know, I'm open to, I'm so ready to meet my person. Like, I truly couldn't be more ready. I want to get married. I want to have a family. And so, you know, who knows what's going to happen in the future, but never say never. Well, Joe and I are big fans of you.

And we hope that your name is at least in the ring right now for consideration because we think you would be amazing. Oh, thank you. That means a lot. And, yeah, I'm big fans of you guys, too. Nice. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you so much for coming back on and enjoy the rest of your night.

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Hi. How was your night? It was good. It was a little nerve-wracking going into it, but I was definitely excited to kind of just like talk and a little bit get it over with. But I feel relieved now. Yeah, I feel like a lot of your time on the show that we saw was obviously involved in the drama. So I can imagine that Women tall was kind of hanging over your head knowing that you were going to have to kind of rehash it all out. So it must feel good putting that to bed. Yeah. Yeah, I think I was honestly excited because I feel like I definitely didn't talk as much as I probably wanted to in the moment. And I don't regret that in the sense of I feel like I'm definitely the type of person who wants to process what's going on. I don't want to say things out of emotion. I mean, we saw what happened when I said something out of emotion. Like I obviously did not mean to use the word bully. And so like I think I just liked having that time to process and to actually like talk about how I felt. night. So what started all this? It all started with you said you you felt old and then that was just that started all. Let's run the tape back. I said I felt pressure as a 31 year old and I'm joking with you a little bit but I think. Oh but is that is that that that's okay. The frustrating thing

about like that whole situation is like if you actually look at what I said I said I felt pressure I'm 31. I feel like I don't have a lot of time to waste and so when it what I said was taken and skewed into, I said I was old, I said something about like, like, oh, she's hot, she should own it. Or like, Joey's only 28. She's only, I never said anything about anyone else. And I think that was like the frustrating part is when I brought up my age, I brought up my age only in regards to myself. And at the end of the day, you can be 20, you can be 30, you can be 40. You can feel however you want. If you're 45 and love being single, more power to you, I'm not telling anyone else they have to feel this way. I think for me, I put a lot of pressure

personally. I have some cultural pressure for me to get married. And, it's a lot of it's just how I feel. And I think I was, I was honestly confused why I wasn't like, I guess, allowed to have that feeling and honestly taken aback. Yeah, I feel like tonight you being able to give context to the comment because I feel like we heard you say that on the show and then it turned into Medina feels like she's old. Medina feels old. Medina feels old. Medina feels old is kind of what we heard all season. So for you to give that background of like, it's not that I feel old. It's that I have this pressure that I feel that comes from my culture, that comes from myself to get married and have a family and to achieve these things that you want. I think it

was great for you to be able to give context to that. Do you feel like watching it back? I think there was a lot of Maria's talking shit about Medina narrative going around. Seeing what you saw, do you feel like it was shit talking? I think shit talking is definitely a strong word. I do You think at the end of the day, like when she approached me when I was setting up for Joey, she did say, why does me being 29 upset you? Which I was honestly like, what? Like I literally said nothing about your age. And I think that was like the frustrating part.

It felt like no one heard what she said. At the end of the day, I don't have to explain to anyone necessarily how I feel, right? It's how I feel. If I had said it in the context of how other people, other people's age, yes. I think I have something to respond to, but I'm allowed to have my feeling. And so I was taken aback. I think also that night I was setting up to tell Joey about a very personal situation that I had. We were on that group date with the working out.

I don't know if you guys remember the boot camp, but a lot of those exercises last year, I mean, I don't know how much time we have, but like last year I literally almost died from doing some of those types of exercises I got this condition called Rabdo, which is very critical. And I was setting up a spot and that was what I was planning to tell him. So I was in that kind of mindset of like wanting to tell him. this serious conversation. I was like, I was not thinking about this comment at all. And so like, I'm like, hold up.

I am trying to set up right now. Like, I am not trying to have that conversation. Yeah, you're like, girl, you're redirecting my whole night right now. Like, my mind is not where your mind is. Exactly. So I think it was just, and I don't care. I've known Maria at 40s at that point. Like, if she wants to shit, I don't care.

I don't know. It was hard because it was like Maria wanted me to, be less upset about my age. Sinney wanted me to be more upset about this comment. Like can I just feel how I feel? Like I'm not telling anyone else to feel how they feel. So it was like so confusing.

Do you think kind of being dragged into all this? Do you think it, I don't know if it ruined your experience, but I guess hindered your relationship with Joey. You think it could have gone differently? I think for sure, like how I came to my conversations with Joey was like way more of like a serious tenor than I ever would

want to come into like a new relationship as I think for sure 100% he did not get to see the true me. I don't know if that would have changed the outcome. But I think I would have felt better being able to leave knowing that he was able to like truly see me versus me leaving knowing like I would have set me home too. Um, was definitely like hard, a hard pill to swallow. Yeah, because I mean, You only get, you only get so much time and majority of your time is now spent on nonsense and somewhat defending yourself and it kind of ruins your chances. You would be someone I would love to see like come back on another Bachelor season. Like if there was a lead that they were like, hey, we think this would be like a great fit for you. I feel like it would be really interesting for you to come back and see how that journey could go differently for you.

would you ever do it if they were like hey do you want to come back we have a lead we think you'd hit it off with she's like fuck no i don't know well you maybe no i mean you did have kind of like a tumultuous experience yeah i mean i think i would definitely ponder the idea i i can't like i don't want to ever sit here and see like i didn't do anything like i think i can definitely be more open and just more me i think i've been placed in a lot of boxes where i've been expected to be kind of like perfect and poised i won't get into that right now but i think like tonight was kind of like an example of me being able to like speak my mind and have my truth, but also be poised and respectful.

And so it would be nice to like have another experience where I could kind of just like be a little bit more me. So yeah, I wouldn't say no. Maybe Bachelor in Paradise. Would you do Bachelor in Paradise? That's a much, uh, much easier question. Whatever you guys got from you were that I can potentially end up with someone because where is my man? Where is you?

Yes. No, I thought you did an amazing job tonight really. What was it like? Because, I mean, you knew Maria and Sydney for the same amount of time, which I know the girls get really close and that bond is undeniable. But at the same time, it is a short time together. Did you feel like you were pulled in one direction or another tonight between Maria and Sydney? I mean, you were literally sitting dead in the middle of them. Yeah.

I mean, I think I've always veered a little bit more towards Maria just because I feel like personally, like, I'm not someone who's going to dote on something. Like, I don't think I would ever pull someone aside and be like, oh, my God, this person's saying this about you. like we had been friends for like seven years and like this is our like really good friend and like why are you saying that about our other good friend especially knowing that was already something I felt like insecure about like I don't think like that comment like I even needed to hear and I think the difference is like when Sydney argued she argued and used me as a prop saying she was arguing in the vein of me when I never asked for that and I also didn't need anyone to stick up for me because like Maria and I had resolved it so if you're going to argue own it because

like you said you felt bullied which is fine you can feel that way so then you have to then finish that argument and don't don't put it on me Maria she argued for herself so and do that you know but I think that that makes perfect sense totally totally Medina thank you so much for coming on happy hour and enjoy the rest of your night bye guys night bye thanks for coming all right well that's going to wrap it that's another woman's hell all in the books it was a very entertaining one. Glad we got to talk to everyone. And thank you guys so much for tuning in and listening to us on Happy Hour. And in tonight's speed dating round, you may have noticed we were missing the woman of the moment, Rachel, but we are going to be having a exclusive sit down

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