Bachelor Happy Hour - LIVE from ‘The Golden Bachelor: Women Tell All’
Episode Date: November 14, 2023“Bachelor Happy Hour” is LIVE from “The Golden Bachelor: Women Tell All”! In a round of post-show interviews with Joan, Faith, Ellen, Sandra, Susan, Natascha, and of course Gerry, Joe and S...erena follow up on all the biggest moments from the night with the people who lived them firsthand. Listen now! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate.
Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast.
Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you.
When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome.
Avoidance is easier.
Ignoring is easier.
Denials is easier.
Complex problem solving.
Takes effort.
Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic Representative of Texas.
She's holding out the fork for her party in one of the most conservative states in the Union.
I think that ultimately, who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves.
to be punched and just say thank you.
Like, they will punch back.
Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour.
I'm Joe.
And I'm Serena.
And we have a very special episode because we are live at the Women's Hell All for
the Golden Bachelor.
And our first guest today is none other than the man himself, the Golden Bachelor.
Gary, Gary, welcome.
How are you?
I'm great. Thanks, guys. I've become big fans of yours, so I'm really excited about talking to you this evening.
Oh, we're big fans of you now, too, Gary. We haven't had you on, was it before your premiere, I think is the last time we talked to you.
Yep, before we started. And I really didn't know heads from tales at that time. I didn't realize how spectacular you guys are and how many people follow you and all of that. It's like, I really needed to be more excited about who I was talking to.
So now I'm making up for it.
Wow, Carrie.
That's flattering because we honestly, we're fans of you.
We talk about you every week.
So we can't get enough of you.
How tonight was just, I mean, such a big night, an emotional night.
It's the first time you're seeing these women in months.
Let's just talk about when you first get out there and you just see all these women who you date it.
How are you feeling?
So the feeling was that I was so excited to see them, but it even elevated when I saw everyone smiling.
They were all excited to be there.
I was so excited to see them.
Some of them I felt like I needed some closure with, that I needed just even another glance, another comment, something that we both felt like it was finished, that we were okay with each other.
And those things happen.
Can you tell us who those women wore?
Let's not not including faith because we'll talk about that separately.
Sure.
I think Ellen and Joan were the two that really stand out.
Ellen had such an exuberance about her personality and she wore her heart on her sleeve.
She was right out there vulnerable at all times.
And it was like when I sent her home, I knew how difficult it was going to be.
for her and for me.
And so, like, tonight to see her smiling again meant so much.
It's like, okay, she's on the healing process.
She's getting over things and she's getting back to normal.
And that meant a lot.
And I think for...
Go ahead, Gary.
Sorry, I interrupted.
And what I was going to say then with regard to Joan, it just felt like unfinished business.
And Joan was that person that through the course of the whole journey,
I would always find her gaze and she would always find mine.
And we would lock eyes in such a peaceful kind of way that we had a connection.
And when she left, it just felt like just unfinished business.
And as it turns out, that's the way it's meant to be.
But tonight when we locked eyes and had that gaze,
there was just a little bit of a different feeling.
There was resignation.
I think that's great and I think as people that have been watching your journey to get to see
you have these final positive, happy interactions with these women that, you know, some of them
ended weeks ago and some of them just ended recently and there was a lot of heartache with that
breakup.
I think it felt it felt like we all like you got closure, the women got closure and there was a sense
of joy in the room.
There indeed was.
I think everyone was hopeful.
And that is sort of one of those themes that we wanted people to feel going through this journey with me.
Is that everyone should realize that they can be hopeful of finding a relationship if they want to be in one.
And all you have to do is be open to it.
And there's been so many stories come to me in that theme.
And it's so rewarding.
Every time I feel like I'm having a crappy day or things aren't going right, it's like,
You think about that and you go, it's worth it because someone has a benefit out of it and they're finding happiness.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I really like what you said about with Joan, it being unfinished business and that's what it was and that's okay.
I think because when we hear unfinished business, we think, well, there has to be, it has to finish.
But this story just didn't have to finish.
It is what it is.
And we're both okay and we're happy and we're moving on.
And I think that's...
I think people at any age can relate to that.
You know what I mean?
I think there's like, you know, 17-year-olds that are like,
but that was just, you know, maybe there's more.
And there's seven-year-olds that feel that way as well.
It's a very relatable storyline.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So true.
I really want to ask you, Gary, before we get into your conversation with Faith,
I want to backtrack a little.
But when we had you on before you, you know, your season premiered,
we asked you a lot about if you were nervous.
And you kept saying, no.
I'm not. I'm genuinely just so excited. Was there ever a point throughout your journey or even
tonight where those nerves kind of kicked in like, oh my gosh, this is a lot? Or did you
continue that excited feeling? So throughout the journey, all of the rose ceremonies, all of the
things that I would have to say and finish, I wasn't nervous. I was excited about what was going
on, you know, I'm sort of methodical and I plan and, you know, mentally I was trying to
categorize the things I would say and so forth. That all changed tonight. When I walked
on stage, or even before I walked on stage, and I knew who was going to be sitting on that
stage with Jesse. And yeah, I was incredibly nervous. I had no idea what my reaction was going
to be because I'd watched some of the episode prior in the dressing room, and it really got me
at that point. And, you know, I was sobbing with, you know, sorrow and hope. And then when I'm
walking on that stage, and I knew what was before me, I got really nervous.
You're referring to, I'm assuming you're referring to seeing faith, correct? I am. Yeah. And so we see
what happens and it was very emotional. But after after it's all said and done, how do you feel now
with where you're at with faith and just like how do you feel about her and how she
handle it all? Yeah. Faith was very important to me and I'm sure that I was very important to her.
So the pain of separating and me being the cause of that separation just was so excruciatingly painful.
And tonight, when I went on that stage and we hugged, and we had a long, extended hug,
and she was crying and I was crying, and it was like, okay, it was cathartic, and it just kind of spilled out of us.
and you know through the course of that and the conversation and her being able to talk and me listen
I think was good for both of us and and because it was unfinished it was like what the hell happened
neither of us felt like we had closure and and and now I feel like we do it's still yeah but
you know it's it's we've closed the chapter yeah I think so and I think as viewers and watching it
I think we could really see that.
But we are so happy for you.
We know you're a busy man and we have to interview a bunch of your exes right now.
So Gary, thank you so much.
We cannot wait to watch the rest of your journey unfold.
Yes, you did a wonderful job tonight.
You've been doing a wonderful job this whole season.
We're so excited to see how it all ends.
And I'm sure you're excited to have that relief of it being over as well.
I am.
I am indeed.
There is a lot of relief.
I feel a burden has been left it off to my shoulders.
And thank you for your kind words.
And again, I'm big fans.
So be nice to the ladies that are my exes.
We will.
We promise.
And hopefully we'll talk to you again soon, Gary.
Okay, Carrie.
Thank you.
Bye now.
Bye.
Hi, we're here with Faith.
Faith, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour.
How are you?
Good to see you.
So good to see you.
You too.
So let's just, we have a busy night, so let's just jump right into it.
How did it feel watching the breakup back on stage?
Oh, you guys, it was so hard.
I'm not going to lie.
It was gut-wrenching.
I mean, it was completely gut-wrenching to watch that.
Lots of feelings, you know, of course.
And I, yeah, I mean, it made me terrified.
think of coming here and doing the interviews and seeing Gary for the first time after just,
you know, gut-runching, pouring my eyes out. It's strange, isn't it, how you can have such
deep feel? Oh, you guys lived it so you know how you have such deep feelings in such a short time
and how does that even happen? And it's crazy and, but it's so real and so emotional and hard
to get through, you know, so. It is. It's a lot. What were you most nervous for going into this
evening and what were you most looking forward to? I think I was most looking forward to just
getting some kind of answer like what happened? Why? How do you go from the most amazing
feeling in the world to being walked out and said, you know, goodbye to you. It's going to make me
cry. So yeah, I mean, that was just super, super hard for me to deal with because, you know, you go
through those things in your head, like, was I the only one that felt that? How did it feel so real
and so great and so wonderful? And then maybe that was all in my own head because now we just said
goodbye. And as you know, you walk out and you're done and there's no closure right then. You're
in a limo. You're gone. Very few words were spoken with us. So it was really hard. So I guess
when you say, what was I most worried about? I was worried about baling like a baby.
I was and I was also worried about wondering if he would just give me that stoic
closed-off look like he was a complete stranger and because that's what he did
that night when he said goodbye it's what it felt like so I don't know if I could
have handled that I don't feel like that would have given me any closure so the
fact that he opened up and was true and hugged me and it even told me that he
loved me and you know I just felt like it's okay that we love each other and
nobody can take that from us and it's okay to move through our lives individually now moving
forward but just knowing that we had something really special and that's a beautiful thing and
it's okay wow yeah see i'm i'm i'm like the opposite if if if that was me i would have want him
to come out and been like closed off and stoics i could have been like yeah because then i now i would
have put up my wall and i would have been like you know what fuck you but well let's just say i think faith
strategy is a lot healthier than what you just said, Joe.
And, you know, the thing is, though, because then that wall goes up and then that serves
you, it's not well, right? And it doesn't serve us to put our walls up. It might feel better
in the moment, but it doesn't really serve us. So then we go through life numb and we stop feeling,
which is what I've done for so many years. So for me, it's like, I want to keep my walls down.
I would have never been able to feel that love from Gary had I had those walls up.
I think it's really, it's really all we have, right? It's really important to stay
present and to be open to that.
I think so.
When you came out tonight, a lot of the women were cheering and saying, faith, we love you,
I love you.
How did that feel, kind of having that support from that group of women?
I've always said this, because as a radio person, you're out in the public a lot.
The audience that I talked to on the radio, like where they're listening on your podcast,
I've always felt like they give you this unconditional love that is such a good feeling.
And if, like, I'm so myself on the radio, too, and to have them love me in spite of myself.
And here I am, bawling like a baby, or not always looking my best, or just being who I am.
And they love you anyway.
And tonight when, you know, I got to reconnect with all the gals and then all the people from the audience came up and such love and support that, oh, my gosh, like, that's what makes the world feel worth living, you know, what life is living.
because it's just such a beautiful thing when people that have never even met you are willing to
just embrace you and love you. And it felt so good. I think had I been able to hug all those people
before I sat there tonight with Jesse and Gary, I would have felt less scared. Yeah. I feel like the
support like really in the room helps a very nerve-wracking experience. We obviously, we had the pleasure
of meeting some of your family and friends at hometowns. How are you?
your sons and your family and your friends feeling about all of this now. You know, I think
they're really like me, glad for the journey. I think that they realize we've all learned a lot
and we've all been through a lot. And I think they can see that it really has made kind of a
life-changing effect for me. It's made a difference in my life. I feel like I can be more present
and I've done a lot of crying. So they've had to listen to that and they've kind of gone through it
with me because they fell in love with Gary a little bit too so it's hard on them I think they
really want to see me find love and be happy in my life and I think moving forward that's
something we'll look forward to hopefully yeah you know what faith I have a have a lot of hope
for you and I really I don't I just don't think this is going to be the last time we talked to you
but you look wonderful you you came across so elegant tonight so happy for you and
And yeah, we're going to have to let you go.
But thank you so much for coming on.
And I look forward to talking to you soon.
Yeah.
Thanks, Faith.
Congrats on tonight.
I'm so happy.
You two are so good.
It's so cute.
Thanks.
Hopefully we'll talk again sometime.
Yes.
You look amazing.
We'll talk to you soon.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly.
And now I'm seriously suspicious.
Oh, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for.
extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll
find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor
a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to
know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That
sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's
former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get
this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast.
Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.
I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers
or I get students who would be like,
it's easier to punch someone in the face.
When you think about emotion regulation,
like, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy
which is more effortful to use
unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it
if it's going to be beneficial to you.
Because it's easy to say like, go blank yourself, right?
It's easy.
It's easy to just drink the extra beer.
It's easy to ignore, to suppress,
seeing a colleague who's bothering you
and just like walk the other way.
Avoidance is easier.
Ignoring is easier.
Denial is easier.
drinking is easier, yelling, screaming is easy.
Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort.
Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined.
Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Myceles Brothers,
three siblings with a serious media strategy are building an alternative to that.
On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric,
I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network
to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up,
why audience interaction is the key to political influence
and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one download at a time.
We should be focusing on the issues and actually occupy
a lot of the mental space in Americans' minds
but are filled with conspiracies
and we should fill it with the truth and solutions.
Listen to next question with me,
Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Joan, welcome to Happy Hour.
How are you?
Good to be here.
Thanks for having me.
I'm great.
Thanks.
How did it, hi, we're going to get right into it.
How did it feel?
just being back and seeing all the women tonight.
It was amazing.
You know, I left pretty early on in the season.
And so I had total foam out.
And, you know, I watched them each week and I miss them more and more, honestly.
And I've been saying that I, you know, I called them my tribe.
They are a group of women that I've been in search of since my husband passed away.
You know, it's kind of lousy being 60s and 70s and single.
It's a lonely place, and I walked into the room the first night, and there were 21 people there that are just like me.
And it felt so good to be able to relate and have a whole group of people that you could relate to, and you could call your friends.
And they were so supportive, and we were instant friends, and we got to know each other over the few weeks.
And, you know, I feel like they're friends for life.
And I miss them terribly.
And when I walked down the stairs today and saw them all standing there, it just gave my heart good.
it really is like the best reunion the tell-alls like it's so nice to see everyone and i feel like
it's such a nerve-wracking night having everyone sitting around you just makes you feel so much
more secure it did like i like i wanted to when people were talking i wanted to just run over and hug each
one of them but you know we were we had our seats and we had to stay there i was sitting next to nancy
we were like holding hands half the time she's my my good buddy she actually even lives close
to me oh really that's awesome i love that she goes in virginia we're like 20 minutes away from each
other. Oh my gosh. That's meant to be. How were you feeling about seeing Gary tonight? And did you
kind of know what you might want to say to him if you got to talk to him? So I didn't know,
I didn't really actually know he was going to be here. I guess I should have. And so I didn't
have anything kind of planned in my head. But I was really excited to see him because like when you
leave these, you know, when you when you leave Bachelor, you leave really abruptly. Like it's not,
you know, a normal, you know, like, break up or whatever I am. I couldn't even call mine a breakup. I mean,
I had to leave for my daughter's help. And so it was super abrupt. And I felt like I, I felt
brokenhearted. I felt like I broke his heart. And like we had no closure. Like, we never spoke
again. And so, like, I finally had the chance to say, you know, I feel like we had this unfinished
business. And I'm sorry about it. And I've seen,
Now the hometown visits, and I see that he connected with people, and I was, I'm happy for him.
I feel like I lost out, but that was part of my journey, and it is what it is.
But I'm really happy for him.
He deserves it.
He's a really, really good man.
This is going to be more of a difficult question, but watching it back, do you think you could have gotten there with Gary where some of these other women are at this point?
I do honestly like we had our one-on-one date and we didn't have one of those epic dates where you go to on a yacht or you know an ATVN or anything like that we had just a normal date where you sit down at a table and you know over food and you talk to somebody and like we connected we had so many things in common we talked you only see a little snippet of it but we were together for probably two and a half hours in fact they finally said you know it's time to be done you guys you know it's like you know it's like you know it's like
like 11 o'clock at night. It's time to go. We were having such a great conversation. And for the
first time, since my husband passed away, I actually, like, started to envision life with somebody
else. We had so much in common. And he's such a dear man. I thought, boy, I could actually
picture this. So, you know, when the next morning I got the text and talked to my daughter and had
to leave, I felt like I was leaving, like it was the beginning of our journey. And I thought
we had a long way to go.
How hard or, I don't know if it was hard or easy or challenging, but how would you describe
making that decision to leave?
Because, you know, you talked so much about how it was a big decision for you to come
on the show, you're making that decision for yourself, you get there, you have this connection,
and then you're pulled back home.
What was making that decision like for you?
It wasn't even a hard decision, honestly.
So I got this text from my daughter and she,
was trying. She and her husband were trying to figure this out, but she was just so emotional,
which is very unlike my daughter. So she is a strong, strong, strong girl. She's had multiple
open heart surgeries in her life, and I think it's just made her tough. Like, I honestly
have seen her cry maybe 15 times in her life. So when she reached out with that heart-wrenching
text, and then I talked to her, and she could not even be composed enough to have a conversation
hardly. I was at that point, too. I could not leave that mansion fast enough. I know. I
needed to be home. I would have walked across a desert if I had to. So it was, it wasn't a hard
decision. It was hard. It was emotional. I was very, very sad that I had to do it. But being home
was the only, only place I could be. I had to be there. Yeah, it seems like that. It seems like
it would almost have been impossible for you to even like fully commit yourself to Gary with all
that going on back home. Yeah, you're very right about that. And how is, how is your daughter and your
family right now. So they are great. I got home, got her a little help, you know, got her
found her a doctor, a little therapy, a little meds, and she is amazing. They are great parents.
They are loving being parents now. They went from like, like, the weight of the world on them to
really, really loving it. And they have the cutest little baby daughter, Hartley. And she just
learned how to smile. And we just can't get enough of her. So all is good in the world now.
Joan, that's amazing.
We're so happy for you, for your daughter, for your family.
And as much as it didn't work out with Gary, you are definitely, it's a step towards
you finding what's meant for you.
And you're amazing.
You're definitely going to find the perfect person.
Thank you.
You guys know.
You did it.
Yeah.
We did.
Wait, I have to ask you, do you have extensions or is this your real hair?
I have some extensions.
Okay.
Your hair looks amazing.
I was like, there's no way.
I was like, I was like, the high.
What do you have it? What's your secret? What's someone are you taking? Yeah. All right. Thank you. Bye. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Alan. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. How are you? We're so happy. Honestly, we have not interviewed you yet. And you were such a I can't believe this is our first time having you. Yeah, you were such a main. I don't want to see character because it's not the right word, but you were. Contestine. Yeah. You're.
You just, you, you, you captured America's hearts and mine because I was.
Joe was really team Ellen.
I really was.
But yeah.
So how, how was everything tonight?
How was seeing the women when you first got there?
I think I was most excited about that more than anything else because I come to terms with the closure with Gary.
And I pulled out all positive things from it instead of just looking at the negative.
You know, I gained.
a lot of confidence from going through this experience and I learned to take myself
more seriously and concentrate on me instead of everybody else around me and it's sort of nice
thinking about me for a change you know and getting all those special things during the show
and the attention and it was hard in the beginning I mean it really was and yeah now I'm sort
really liking it.
Good.
You should enjoy it.
How does it feel,
how does it feel watching yourself back on the show?
It's not me.
It's not me on there.
But it is you have it.
Yeah,
what do you mean?
I just,
it just feels like an out of body experience.
Like,
I'm watching it the first episode with my family and some friends and
it doesn't connect that.
That was me doing that,
you know,
and really humbly,
honestly,
did not feel that that was me and then the whole thing comes together with the friendships and
you know seeing gary and and talking to him later on you know this evening and it's it's really
really did happen and i think i'm a better person for it too so yeah that's weird that's amazing
it really is a such a unique experience that does show you like i feel like i learned so much
about myself as a person and also grew so much as a person being on the show you.
show. And that's honestly, that's how we feel, too. Like, we're kind of like, oh, that wasn't
me on the show. And then we look at each other and we're like, nope. It was us because
that we're gay. We're married. Which is a strange feeling. You know, especially never being
in front of the camera before and never ever talking in interviews before, you know, except for
job interviews. I mean, other than that, you know, it was, I mean, really, it was the best
experience in my life. Honestly, it really was. So. So. So,
before Gary comes out, you have a chat with Jesse and kind of talk about your time with Gary.
You show off your beautiful earrings that you're wearing tonight, which are gorgeous. Yeah. Also, I was so
jealous of your date because I love Michael. Custillo. Oh, my God. I'm going to say Custello.
Yeah, you're really loving. No, I do. I have a bunch of his dresses. I have a bunch of his dresses.
But you also, you know, on top of all the light, happy conversation, you talked about your
friend Roberta and her daughter was in the audience tonight. What did that mean to see her there?
I don't know if you knew this, but I didn't know she was going to be there. And I had just
finished saying, well, her daughter, Courtney and my children, and we're all watching the
episode for the first time. And then Jesse made the indication that there was someone here
that was very special. And next thing I know, I said her name, and the next thing I turned around
And I said to Jesse, can I go down to see her?
I mean, I didn't know what I was supposed to do.
And that was a good hug.
You know, getting a hug from Courtney was a really, it's very special.
It made me feel like her mom was there.
Yeah.
Well, we are very sorry for your loss.
And the story was a lot and very heartbreaking.
But it was a beautiful moment to see you with her daughter.
And I think, you know, probably felt like she was there in spirit with you tonight.
she was it actually there was sounds coming from the ceiling and my producer said you know
maybe that was Roberta I mean it was really loud like you know but I said don't even think
that I can't even go there life's been crazy enough these past few months for you um seeing
best thing ever seen uh seeing Gary tonight now before seeing him tonight did you feel like you did
have closure. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So then how did it make you feel just seeing him
tonight? Actually, I felt really happy for him. I'm sure he found happiness. He found the girl
that was good for him. I've learned from this whole experience that if I'm going to be involved
with someone, they better like me or love me as much as I love them because otherwise it's not a
relationship. It's one-sided.
And I was, once I got over the fact that I didn't get the rows that I was expecting to get or hoping to get,
I realized, well, I don't know if I would be a good match to him anyway.
Because if he doesn't want me as much as I wanted him, then the connection wouldn't be there.
And I'm really open to that.
That's, especially the stage in my life.
I made a really wonderful life for myself.
And I'm sure the person that I would date or go out with, made a decent life for that.
themselves. We're at the stage now where most of us are retired. And I don't want to give
all that up. And I'm sure that person doesn't either. And it comes to terms with it and
join forces. And I mentioned to Gary, I wanted a teammate, you know, and he wasn't my
player. You know, that was it. So it's okay. Yeah, it is okay. And you seem to be in a really
good place. And everyone loves you. We love you. Before we let you go, I got to ask real quick.
Who was the best pickleball player on that court that day?
Oh, good question, Joe.
You?
I knew it was you.
It was you, right?
I'm a captain of a team.
Oh, there we go.
I am in Delray Beach.
And the beginning was like really cool.
Like, everybody's like, oh, my God, she's the captain of T-shirt.
And then we go to these different communities and they all want to like take selfies and stuff.
And the girls on my team are like rolling their eyes.
Oh, here we go again.
Like, let's just put a pickleball, you know.
Picklewell celebrity. Oh, look, we've got a double interview going on now. We've got Natasha
coming in too. Well, Ellen, thank you so much. Thank you so much. We appreciate it.
Thank you for being team, Ellen. I appreciate that. You got it. Thanks, Alan.
All right. Natasha just jumps right on in. I love that. Let's go. How you feeling tonight?
I feel amazing and so are both of you. Oh, thank you. We feel amazing also.
We're very happy to have you here today. I'm happy that you are having.
me here and I'm happy to be here.
Good. I'm glad.
So how did it feel seeing all the women tonight?
Actually, you know what?
You know what? Don't answer that. Don't answer that.
How did it feel watching Stephen A. Smith talk about you?
Did you see that? Because I know you saw that.
So many people sent me that over and over again.
Well, let me tell you, I was blown away when he said,
look at Natasha
Go back to Natasha
No no no go back to her
Look at that
And I was like
Okay
I might need to jump in
Stephen A DMs
Or Stephen A
I'm gonna put it right out there
Stephen A
I'd love to meet you in person
I said a message and stuff
And he told him thank you for shouting me out
And all the women out on the Golden Bachelorette
So I was really happy
That he gave us
a shout-out. I figured if we made the sports
somebody's sex segment, sports
segment, you're making it. You know what I'm saying? If we come up
in the men's sports arena, honey, we are we
saying. I was going to say like the fact that Golden Bachelor
has made its way into men's sports,
like that's how you know it's a big deal. That's definitely
never happened before. I agree. Yeah. I agree.
Okay, so tonight, how was it being back?
seeing all the women for um you know it's been a few months it was like being home okay do you know
when you go when you're not home and then you go home and everybody loves and hugs on you and
tells you great things and just kiss you up and all that that's what it felt like it felt like
being home it felt like love overflow like a like a home cooked meal and desserts wow
Wow, it sounds pretty good.
No, the tellos are the best.
They're so much fun.
But you know what?
You know what I wonder?
And I think this, even in our case, too, like all these women are now, you guys, you went through this so you have this special bond and you are so close.
But do you think like, let's say at your, at your gym or your health club, wherever you met one of these women, there's a good chance you guys might not even, you'd meet and not even be friends.
And now you're bonded together for life.
Do you ever look at it like that?
Here's how I look at it.
I look at it.
If I would have said no to the opportunity to be on the show,
I probably would have never met any of these women.
If I would have met these women in real life,
I probably would have bonded with them
because that's just the kind of person I am.
My niece tells me,
everywhere you go you make community you make family and and the reason why I do that is because
I like to feel comfortable where I am so I like I like to know people get to know people
create a relationship or community where I'm at because I need to be in a space where I feel
safe and that's just who I am you're a people person yeah I'm an introvert extrovert
quite honest with you that's been the most popular and
We asked a lot of the women if they were introverted or extroverted and are like rapid fire questions around.
And a lot of people say they're, they're in the middle.
I wouldn't say I'm in the middle.
What I would say is like, you see how energetic I am.
Most people are like, you wake up like that in the morning, don't you?
And I'm like, no, I don't.
When I wake up in the morning, I like quiet.
It has to be quiet.
I've actually been in a hotel with no, like, next to no TV.
so I have no sound, no music, whatever, in the morning and in the evening.
Like, I have to have my downtime in the a.m. and in the p.m.
I cannot have all of that because that's my resetting time.
And so that would be like the introverted part of me.
And the extroverted part of me would be when I'm like here, out and about, be on television or be on social media.
you see that extrovert come out.
And so I wouldn't say I'm in the middle.
It's just that I become an introvert in order to recharge
and I'm an extrovert when I'm charged up.
Well, tonight we definitely saw the charged up extroverted version of Natasha,
which was so exciting.
Today was a big night.
There was a lot that happened.
What were your favorite moments, your standouts from the night?
what was my big moment that stand out for the night um you know i would say
do you mean on the show during the show yeah during the during the women tell
all tonight you know what stood out for me was just being there it was like live
I've seen this on TV, but it's not, it's, it's completely different.
It's surreal to be in the moment and be on the stage and do this live.
And I think the bloopers were like the funniest and the most, the part that stood out most of me
because you got a chance to see everybody being silly, you know, or messing up or doing, you know,
being their authentic self, you know.
Yeah.
The blupers are always great because it can get really heavy at these tell-alls.
Obviously, there's a lot of serious conversations happening, and it's so nice to end on this light, fun note.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Well, Natasha, thank you so much for hopping on.
And we love watching you and you have such a great energy.
So thank you so much for coming to Happy Hour.
Thank you.
I appreciate you.
Thank you for having me.
And I loved being here.
And great to meet both of you.
Great to meet you as well.
as well. Enjoy your night. Congratulations. I'm being done. And let me tell you this. If nobody's
told you that they love you today, let me be the first to say, I love you and there ain't nothing
you can do about it. Go be amazing because you both are. Thank you. Wow. I love that. Wow.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well,
wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back
to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll
find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor
a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to
know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That
sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's
former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists
there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this
person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this
person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not.
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast.
Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.
I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers
or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face.
When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to do.
choose an adapted strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome
as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you because it's easy to say like go you go blank
yourself right it's easy it's easy to just drink the extra beer it's easy to ignore to suppress
seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way avoidance is easier
ignoring is easier denial is easier drinking is easier yelling screaming is easy
complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort.
Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Susan.
All right, we are here.
Welcome back.
Chris Jenner's BFF.
Nice.
You see?
Of course we saw it.
Susan is here.
Welcome to Happy Hour.
Yeah, let's just get, Susan, let's just get right into it.
How was it?
how was it seeing chris jenner sent a video jessie paver showed it to us she gave you a shout
out walk us through everything susan i was all emotional i couldn't believe it was such a surprise
did you even consider that this could happen i hoped i really wanted to have lunch right you know what
you have one foot in the door she knows your name she knows who you are you had a little bit of chit-chat
over the phone? It made my die. I love that woman. Maybe lunch is next. I know. I'm definitely
how was the night for you overall seeing all the women, seeing Gary tonight? Seeing the women was
the best part. Seeing Gary, that was easy because like I said, we were in the friend zone and I
felt sorry for him because he had to do that with Ellen and then the faith part. I felt so,
so bad because I know he is genuine.
He was always present and gave you 100% of his attention.
And then to have to make those decisions, that's what it's about.
I keep putting myself in his shoes thinking I'd probably fall in love with three men.
And then you have to decide how hard is that?
But I'm willing.
So this is like, I mean, it would be hard, but I would do it.
If anyone's listening, I would do it.
yeah yeah it was rough i mean it's it's not yeah it's not easy for anyone um how did you feel
do you feel bad for faith i mean she was really going through it she's she's healed though
yeah she was healed yes i did feel bad for up there because she was reliving everything
as it was shown yeah broke my heart so what is what is the plan moving forward how are you
are you dating are you ready what's up i've always been right
However, I don't think I'm going to go back to the dating sites.
No.
Now, it's just tiresome.
You're above that now.
You're dating on TV at this point.
I'm going to attract people now.
I'm not going to run to people anymore.
And if it's not in the cards, then it's not in the card.
You know what Susan's telling us is people are in her DMs.
That's what she's telling us.
Susan, who's in your DMs right now?
All women.
All women.
And then after the ice cream.
thing. Oh my gosh. I kissed
a girl when I was 18 and you might think
I've got all kinds of
fans.
So you're getting, but you are, you are getting
hit on it. That's good. That's good to
know.
I do feel like you are probably
the biggest winner
of tonight because you
got what you, you got
the shot out from Chris
Jenner. That was awesome.
So what was, I can't make people watch it.
That was, I got to say, one of the
best nights. I'm sure that was the best moment for you
of the night. What were a couple other highlights?
Some favorite moments, some moments
maybe you didn't love.
What are the standards?
Of course, they didn't. Well, my meatballs,
they're never going to give that up.
Yeah, they're not. I love her guacamole, but it's definitely
the guacamole. You know what? Raw onions and garlic are hard on the
stomach. Thank you. They are. It's a
proven fact. I was a pig. I told you
that. I eat a lot.
Well, what do you put in your meatballs?
Do you put onions and garlic?
Yeah, but they're cooked.
Do you put onions in your meatballs?
Yeah.
Do you put bread?
Yes.
Bread?
Got eggs, cheese.
Joe's writing down the recipe as we speak.
I got my own recipes.
And then a real quick question.
One more question on meatballs.
Do you put them in sauce or do you go plain?
I fry them first.
Yeah.
Brown and crispy, and then I put them in the gravy.
Okay, but Denny, you're your kids, do they ever eat them before they go in the gravy?
Are they good enough?
Are they good enough?
A whole bowl of fried meatballs for the time before dinner.
Okay, I respect that.
Okay, yeah, that's my grandmother.
Or if you make an I-OI-Oi, you make spaghetti I-Oi with fried meatballs.
Okay.
I like that.
All right, Susan.
Thank you so much for coming back on.
We'd love having you on this podcast.
you're so much fun to watch
very happy for you
you got to meet Chris Jenner
or kind of
almost it's coming
it's one step in the right direction
I see it happening
Susan we're gonna miss you
we're skims
I'm here
thank you so much
I enjoy you
thanks Susan
we'll miss you
congrats on everything
we'll hopefully talk to you soon
Hello, you two.
Remember me.
Oh, Sandra.
I almost just closed the podcast.
You just showed up.
You snuck up on us.
You look beautiful.
Thank you.
Do it.
I love it.
No, you look great.
You still look very fresh.
Thank you.
How did everything go tonight?
How did it feel being back?
Oh, it's fun.
You know, one seeing Gary, but and even Jesse.
but to just seeing my sister wives
can't be beat, can't be weak.
And of course, the night is still young
as far as we're concerned.
We have some more reuniting to do.
Oh, yeah, what's the plan for the sister wives tonight?
Are you guys going out?
I hear that we're all going to meet at the hotel
and you have some food and just get together.
That's going to be fun.
And they're all talking about my bloopers.
Sondra, they did you dirty showing that in the bluephras.
I'm going to have to prepare my kids.
They're going to have to explain to their friends why their mother is farting on TV.
Well, explain to them that you didn't think it was going to be on TV.
Because at some point I had thought that when I was getting my interview that he had cut.
And as it turned out he hadn't, but I was too far gone.
on in the cycle. That's why I said, far. And you guys don't know that the length of time that I was
actually expelling was far greater than they showed on that show. Wow. Because I had been,
you know, I had been sick on the show. And they were pumping with IV of something. And I was
drinking electric lights. And my stomach got all distended. And I couldn't wait for the interview
to be over. And then finally, I said, hey. And so I just, bloopers.
what are you going to do you know what i you look great doing it sandra i don't know if you're watching
bacheloring huh joe is that which i'm sorry smearly i was going to say i don't know if you're
watching bachelor in paradise but there's a girl who had some also some serious tummy issues so
it's okay she's in the audience tonight yes she was so she's supporting you nine days no pooping
i know a little different but also girlie's got to
tummy issues. What can you say?
How did it feel seeing
Gary again? Oh, I enjoyed
it. You know, it's good looking in those
deep blue eyes again. You know,
my Frank Sinatra 2.0.
Yeah, it was
fun seeing. I got another hug.
I stole a hug. I know.
Sandra, I saw you sprint up onto the
stage the minute of the show and I'm watching
I'm like, oh, there's Sandra. I wanted
to get mine in it because there
would have been a rush.
Yeah.
You were smart.
There you guys.
Okay, then what does dating look like now for you?
Are you going to get back out there?
I don't know, but I'm going to be selective, of course.
But, you know, like I said, I'm pumped.
I'm motivated.
And, you know, I know now that there's possibility of good guys out there
and they're waiting for me.
And, no, I'm, I'm where I was before, well, I'm actually a little more motivated now than I was before I went on The Bachelor, but I'm pumped.
What's your dating strategy? Are you on the apps? Are you on the dating sites? Are you trying to get set up with a friend?
Well, I was on apps. I think I told you guys once before. I speed dated, traditional dated, all the dates.
that. Oh, yeah. So I will probably go back on one or two of the dating apps and see. And then again,
it may not have to. I don't think you're going to have to, Sandra. I think you're telling us something without
telling us. That's what I think so. I wish I, well, no. I'm not. Okay, maybe not. Maybe not. But I think,
I think there's going to be a lot of guys coming after you now. So I wish you nothing but the best. And I hope you guys have so, I have so much
fun tonight in the hotel lobby. Yes. Enjoy. Enjoy your big debrief that you're about to have.
Catch up with everyone. Have some some good drinks. Yes. Well, Sandra, thank you so much for coming on.
It was so nice having you on again. And have a lovely, lovely evening. Yeah, we'll talk to you soon.
Thanks, Sandra. All right, guys, that was another wild tell all. Stay tuned because the season is not
wrapped yet. And make sure you tune in and subscribe to Happy Hour because we have exclusive
interviews every week, and we never stop podcasting.
Bye.
There we go.
See you later.
Bye.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll
find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want or gone.
Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate.
Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast.
Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you.
When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to
use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier. Complex
problem solving takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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Jasmine Crockett, Democratic Representative of Texas. She's holding out the fork for her party in one of the
most conservative states in the Union. I think that ultimately, who will
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and has shown that they won't allow themselves to be punched and just say thank you.
Like, they will punch back.
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