Bachelor Happy Hour - LIVE from ‘The Golden Bachelor: Women Tell All’

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

“Bachelor Happy Hour” is LIVE from “The Golden Bachelor: Women Tell All”!  In a round of post-show interviews with Joan, Faith, Ellen, Sandra, Susan, Natascha, and of course Gerry, Joe and S...erena follow up on all the biggest moments from the night with the people who lived them firsthand. Listen now! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Complex problem solving. Takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic Representative of Texas. She's holding out the fork for her party in one of the most conservative states in the Union. I think that ultimately, who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves. to be punched and just say thank you. Like, they will punch back.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we have a very special episode because we are live at the Women's Hell All for the Golden Bachelor.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And our first guest today is none other than the man himself, the Golden Bachelor. Gary, Gary, welcome. How are you? I'm great. Thanks, guys. I've become big fans of yours, so I'm really excited about talking to you this evening. Oh, we're big fans of you now, too, Gary. We haven't had you on, was it before your premiere, I think is the last time we talked to you. Yep, before we started. And I really didn't know heads from tales at that time. I didn't realize how spectacular you guys are and how many people follow you and all of that. It's like, I really needed to be more excited about who I was talking to. So now I'm making up for it. Wow, Carrie.
Starting point is 00:02:32 That's flattering because we honestly, we're fans of you. We talk about you every week. So we can't get enough of you. How tonight was just, I mean, such a big night, an emotional night. It's the first time you're seeing these women in months. Let's just talk about when you first get out there and you just see all these women who you date it. How are you feeling? So the feeling was that I was so excited to see them, but it even elevated when I saw everyone smiling.
Starting point is 00:03:05 They were all excited to be there. I was so excited to see them. Some of them I felt like I needed some closure with, that I needed just even another glance, another comment, something that we both felt like it was finished, that we were okay with each other. And those things happen. Can you tell us who those women wore? Let's not not including faith because we'll talk about that separately. Sure. I think Ellen and Joan were the two that really stand out.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Ellen had such an exuberance about her personality and she wore her heart on her sleeve. She was right out there vulnerable at all times. And it was like when I sent her home, I knew how difficult it was going to be. for her and for me. And so, like, tonight to see her smiling again meant so much. It's like, okay, she's on the healing process. She's getting over things and she's getting back to normal. And that meant a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And I think for... Go ahead, Gary. Sorry, I interrupted. And what I was going to say then with regard to Joan, it just felt like unfinished business. And Joan was that person that through the course of the whole journey, I would always find her gaze and she would always find mine. And we would lock eyes in such a peaceful kind of way that we had a connection. And when she left, it just felt like just unfinished business.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And as it turns out, that's the way it's meant to be. But tonight when we locked eyes and had that gaze, there was just a little bit of a different feeling. There was resignation. I think that's great and I think as people that have been watching your journey to get to see you have these final positive, happy interactions with these women that, you know, some of them ended weeks ago and some of them just ended recently and there was a lot of heartache with that breakup.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I think it felt it felt like we all like you got closure, the women got closure and there was a sense of joy in the room. There indeed was. I think everyone was hopeful. And that is sort of one of those themes that we wanted people to feel going through this journey with me. Is that everyone should realize that they can be hopeful of finding a relationship if they want to be in one. And all you have to do is be open to it. And there's been so many stories come to me in that theme.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And it's so rewarding. Every time I feel like I'm having a crappy day or things aren't going right, it's like, You think about that and you go, it's worth it because someone has a benefit out of it and they're finding happiness. Yeah. Yeah. And I really like what you said about with Joan, it being unfinished business and that's what it was and that's okay. I think because when we hear unfinished business, we think, well, there has to be, it has to finish. But this story just didn't have to finish.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It is what it is. And we're both okay and we're happy and we're moving on. And I think that's... I think people at any age can relate to that. You know what I mean? I think there's like, you know, 17-year-olds that are like, but that was just, you know, maybe there's more. And there's seven-year-olds that feel that way as well.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's a very relatable storyline. Yeah. Yeah. So true. I really want to ask you, Gary, before we get into your conversation with Faith, I want to backtrack a little. But when we had you on before you, you know, your season premiered, we asked you a lot about if you were nervous.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And you kept saying, no. I'm not. I'm genuinely just so excited. Was there ever a point throughout your journey or even tonight where those nerves kind of kicked in like, oh my gosh, this is a lot? Or did you continue that excited feeling? So throughout the journey, all of the rose ceremonies, all of the things that I would have to say and finish, I wasn't nervous. I was excited about what was going on, you know, I'm sort of methodical and I plan and, you know, mentally I was trying to categorize the things I would say and so forth. That all changed tonight. When I walked on stage, or even before I walked on stage, and I knew who was going to be sitting on that
Starting point is 00:07:37 stage with Jesse. And yeah, I was incredibly nervous. I had no idea what my reaction was going to be because I'd watched some of the episode prior in the dressing room, and it really got me at that point. And, you know, I was sobbing with, you know, sorrow and hope. And then when I'm walking on that stage, and I knew what was before me, I got really nervous. You're referring to, I'm assuming you're referring to seeing faith, correct? I am. Yeah. And so we see what happens and it was very emotional. But after after it's all said and done, how do you feel now with where you're at with faith and just like how do you feel about her and how she handle it all? Yeah. Faith was very important to me and I'm sure that I was very important to her.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So the pain of separating and me being the cause of that separation just was so excruciatingly painful. And tonight, when I went on that stage and we hugged, and we had a long, extended hug, and she was crying and I was crying, and it was like, okay, it was cathartic, and it just kind of spilled out of us. and you know through the course of that and the conversation and her being able to talk and me listen I think was good for both of us and and because it was unfinished it was like what the hell happened neither of us felt like we had closure and and and now I feel like we do it's still yeah but you know it's it's we've closed the chapter yeah I think so and I think as viewers and watching it I think we could really see that.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But we are so happy for you. We know you're a busy man and we have to interview a bunch of your exes right now. So Gary, thank you so much. We cannot wait to watch the rest of your journey unfold. Yes, you did a wonderful job tonight. You've been doing a wonderful job this whole season. We're so excited to see how it all ends. And I'm sure you're excited to have that relief of it being over as well.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I am. I am indeed. There is a lot of relief. I feel a burden has been left it off to my shoulders. And thank you for your kind words. And again, I'm big fans. So be nice to the ladies that are my exes. We will.
Starting point is 00:10:15 We promise. And hopefully we'll talk to you again soon, Gary. Okay, Carrie. Thank you. Bye now. Bye. Hi, we're here with Faith. Faith, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour.
Starting point is 00:10:29 How are you? Good to see you. So good to see you. You too. So let's just, we have a busy night, so let's just jump right into it. How did it feel watching the breakup back on stage? Oh, you guys, it was so hard. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It was gut-wrenching. I mean, it was completely gut-wrenching to watch that. Lots of feelings, you know, of course. And I, yeah, I mean, it made me terrified. think of coming here and doing the interviews and seeing Gary for the first time after just, you know, gut-runching, pouring my eyes out. It's strange, isn't it, how you can have such deep feel? Oh, you guys lived it so you know how you have such deep feelings in such a short time and how does that even happen? And it's crazy and, but it's so real and so emotional and hard
Starting point is 00:11:22 to get through, you know, so. It is. It's a lot. What were you most nervous for going into this evening and what were you most looking forward to? I think I was most looking forward to just getting some kind of answer like what happened? Why? How do you go from the most amazing feeling in the world to being walked out and said, you know, goodbye to you. It's going to make me cry. So yeah, I mean, that was just super, super hard for me to deal with because, you know, you go through those things in your head, like, was I the only one that felt that? How did it feel so real and so great and so wonderful? And then maybe that was all in my own head because now we just said goodbye. And as you know, you walk out and you're done and there's no closure right then. You're
Starting point is 00:12:13 in a limo. You're gone. Very few words were spoken with us. So it was really hard. So I guess when you say, what was I most worried about? I was worried about baling like a baby. I was and I was also worried about wondering if he would just give me that stoic closed-off look like he was a complete stranger and because that's what he did that night when he said goodbye it's what it felt like so I don't know if I could have handled that I don't feel like that would have given me any closure so the fact that he opened up and was true and hugged me and it even told me that he loved me and you know I just felt like it's okay that we love each other and
Starting point is 00:12:55 nobody can take that from us and it's okay to move through our lives individually now moving forward but just knowing that we had something really special and that's a beautiful thing and it's okay wow yeah see i'm i'm i'm like the opposite if if if that was me i would have want him to come out and been like closed off and stoics i could have been like yeah because then i now i would have put up my wall and i would have been like you know what fuck you but well let's just say i think faith strategy is a lot healthier than what you just said, Joe. And, you know, the thing is, though, because then that wall goes up and then that serves you, it's not well, right? And it doesn't serve us to put our walls up. It might feel better
Starting point is 00:13:36 in the moment, but it doesn't really serve us. So then we go through life numb and we stop feeling, which is what I've done for so many years. So for me, it's like, I want to keep my walls down. I would have never been able to feel that love from Gary had I had those walls up. I think it's really, it's really all we have, right? It's really important to stay present and to be open to that. I think so. When you came out tonight, a lot of the women were cheering and saying, faith, we love you, I love you.
Starting point is 00:14:03 How did that feel, kind of having that support from that group of women? I've always said this, because as a radio person, you're out in the public a lot. The audience that I talked to on the radio, like where they're listening on your podcast, I've always felt like they give you this unconditional love that is such a good feeling. And if, like, I'm so myself on the radio, too, and to have them love me in spite of myself. And here I am, bawling like a baby, or not always looking my best, or just being who I am. And they love you anyway. And tonight when, you know, I got to reconnect with all the gals and then all the people from the audience came up and such love and support that, oh, my gosh, like, that's what makes the world feel worth living, you know, what life is living.
Starting point is 00:14:51 because it's just such a beautiful thing when people that have never even met you are willing to just embrace you and love you. And it felt so good. I think had I been able to hug all those people before I sat there tonight with Jesse and Gary, I would have felt less scared. Yeah. I feel like the support like really in the room helps a very nerve-wracking experience. We obviously, we had the pleasure of meeting some of your family and friends at hometowns. How are you? your sons and your family and your friends feeling about all of this now. You know, I think they're really like me, glad for the journey. I think that they realize we've all learned a lot and we've all been through a lot. And I think they can see that it really has made kind of a
Starting point is 00:15:39 life-changing effect for me. It's made a difference in my life. I feel like I can be more present and I've done a lot of crying. So they've had to listen to that and they've kind of gone through it with me because they fell in love with Gary a little bit too so it's hard on them I think they really want to see me find love and be happy in my life and I think moving forward that's something we'll look forward to hopefully yeah you know what faith I have a have a lot of hope for you and I really I don't I just don't think this is going to be the last time we talked to you but you look wonderful you you came across so elegant tonight so happy for you and And yeah, we're going to have to let you go.
Starting point is 00:16:22 But thank you so much for coming on. And I look forward to talking to you soon. Yeah. Thanks, Faith. Congrats on tonight. I'm so happy. You two are so good. It's so cute.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Thanks. Hopefully we'll talk again sometime. Yes. You look amazing. We'll talk to you soon. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for. extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get
Starting point is 00:17:19 this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like,
Starting point is 00:17:49 it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like, go blank yourself, right? It's easy.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. drinking is easier, yelling, screaming is easy.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Myceles Brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy are building an alternative to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up,
Starting point is 00:19:04 why audience interaction is the key to political influence and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one download at a time. We should be focusing on the issues and actually occupy a lot of the mental space in Americans' minds but are filled with conspiracies and we should fill it with the truth and solutions. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:19:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joan, welcome to Happy Hour. How are you? Good to be here. Thanks for having me. I'm great. Thanks. How did it, hi, we're going to get right into it.
Starting point is 00:19:45 How did it feel? just being back and seeing all the women tonight. It was amazing. You know, I left pretty early on in the season. And so I had total foam out. And, you know, I watched them each week and I miss them more and more, honestly. And I've been saying that I, you know, I called them my tribe. They are a group of women that I've been in search of since my husband passed away.
Starting point is 00:20:13 You know, it's kind of lousy being 60s and 70s and single. It's a lonely place, and I walked into the room the first night, and there were 21 people there that are just like me. And it felt so good to be able to relate and have a whole group of people that you could relate to, and you could call your friends. And they were so supportive, and we were instant friends, and we got to know each other over the few weeks. And, you know, I feel like they're friends for life. And I miss them terribly. And when I walked down the stairs today and saw them all standing there, it just gave my heart good. it really is like the best reunion the tell-alls like it's so nice to see everyone and i feel like
Starting point is 00:20:49 it's such a nerve-wracking night having everyone sitting around you just makes you feel so much more secure it did like i like i wanted to when people were talking i wanted to just run over and hug each one of them but you know we were we had our seats and we had to stay there i was sitting next to nancy we were like holding hands half the time she's my my good buddy she actually even lives close to me oh really that's awesome i love that she goes in virginia we're like 20 minutes away from each other. Oh my gosh. That's meant to be. How were you feeling about seeing Gary tonight? And did you kind of know what you might want to say to him if you got to talk to him? So I didn't know, I didn't really actually know he was going to be here. I guess I should have. And so I didn't
Starting point is 00:21:27 have anything kind of planned in my head. But I was really excited to see him because like when you leave these, you know, when you when you leave Bachelor, you leave really abruptly. Like it's not, you know, a normal, you know, like, break up or whatever I am. I couldn't even call mine a breakup. I mean, I had to leave for my daughter's help. And so it was super abrupt. And I felt like I, I felt brokenhearted. I felt like I broke his heart. And like we had no closure. Like, we never spoke again. And so, like, I finally had the chance to say, you know, I feel like we had this unfinished business. And I'm sorry about it. And I've seen, Now the hometown visits, and I see that he connected with people, and I was, I'm happy for him.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I feel like I lost out, but that was part of my journey, and it is what it is. But I'm really happy for him. He deserves it. He's a really, really good man. This is going to be more of a difficult question, but watching it back, do you think you could have gotten there with Gary where some of these other women are at this point? I do honestly like we had our one-on-one date and we didn't have one of those epic dates where you go to on a yacht or you know an ATVN or anything like that we had just a normal date where you sit down at a table and you know over food and you talk to somebody and like we connected we had so many things in common we talked you only see a little snippet of it but we were together for probably two and a half hours in fact they finally said you know it's time to be done you guys you know it's like you know it's like you know it's like like 11 o'clock at night. It's time to go. We were having such a great conversation. And for the first time, since my husband passed away, I actually, like, started to envision life with somebody
Starting point is 00:23:16 else. We had so much in common. And he's such a dear man. I thought, boy, I could actually picture this. So, you know, when the next morning I got the text and talked to my daughter and had to leave, I felt like I was leaving, like it was the beginning of our journey. And I thought we had a long way to go. How hard or, I don't know if it was hard or easy or challenging, but how would you describe making that decision to leave? Because, you know, you talked so much about how it was a big decision for you to come on the show, you're making that decision for yourself, you get there, you have this connection,
Starting point is 00:23:52 and then you're pulled back home. What was making that decision like for you? It wasn't even a hard decision, honestly. So I got this text from my daughter and she, was trying. She and her husband were trying to figure this out, but she was just so emotional, which is very unlike my daughter. So she is a strong, strong, strong girl. She's had multiple open heart surgeries in her life, and I think it's just made her tough. Like, I honestly have seen her cry maybe 15 times in her life. So when she reached out with that heart-wrenching
Starting point is 00:24:24 text, and then I talked to her, and she could not even be composed enough to have a conversation hardly. I was at that point, too. I could not leave that mansion fast enough. I know. I needed to be home. I would have walked across a desert if I had to. So it was, it wasn't a hard decision. It was hard. It was emotional. I was very, very sad that I had to do it. But being home was the only, only place I could be. I had to be there. Yeah, it seems like that. It seems like it would almost have been impossible for you to even like fully commit yourself to Gary with all that going on back home. Yeah, you're very right about that. And how is, how is your daughter and your family right now. So they are great. I got home, got her a little help, you know, got her
Starting point is 00:25:09 found her a doctor, a little therapy, a little meds, and she is amazing. They are great parents. They are loving being parents now. They went from like, like, the weight of the world on them to really, really loving it. And they have the cutest little baby daughter, Hartley. And she just learned how to smile. And we just can't get enough of her. So all is good in the world now. Joan, that's amazing. We're so happy for you, for your daughter, for your family. And as much as it didn't work out with Gary, you are definitely, it's a step towards you finding what's meant for you.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And you're amazing. You're definitely going to find the perfect person. Thank you. You guys know. You did it. Yeah. We did. Wait, I have to ask you, do you have extensions or is this your real hair?
Starting point is 00:25:53 I have some extensions. Okay. Your hair looks amazing. I was like, there's no way. I was like, I was like, the high. What do you have it? What's your secret? What's someone are you taking? Yeah. All right. Thank you. Bye. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Alan. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. How are you? We're so happy. Honestly, we have not interviewed you yet. And you were such a I can't believe this is our first time having you. Yeah, you were such a main. I don't want to see character because it's not the right word, but you were. Contestine. Yeah. You're. You just, you, you, you captured America's hearts and mine because I was. Joe was really team Ellen.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I really was. But yeah. So how, how was everything tonight? How was seeing the women when you first got there? I think I was most excited about that more than anything else because I come to terms with the closure with Gary. And I pulled out all positive things from it instead of just looking at the negative. You know, I gained. a lot of confidence from going through this experience and I learned to take myself
Starting point is 00:27:07 more seriously and concentrate on me instead of everybody else around me and it's sort of nice thinking about me for a change you know and getting all those special things during the show and the attention and it was hard in the beginning I mean it really was and yeah now I'm sort really liking it. Good. You should enjoy it. How does it feel, how does it feel watching yourself back on the show?
Starting point is 00:27:34 It's not me. It's not me on there. But it is you have it. Yeah, what do you mean? I just, it just feels like an out of body experience. Like,
Starting point is 00:27:43 I'm watching it the first episode with my family and some friends and it doesn't connect that. That was me doing that, you know, and really humbly, honestly, did not feel that that was me and then the whole thing comes together with the friendships and you know seeing gary and and talking to him later on you know this evening and it's it's really
Starting point is 00:28:08 really did happen and i think i'm a better person for it too so yeah that's weird that's amazing it really is a such a unique experience that does show you like i feel like i learned so much about myself as a person and also grew so much as a person being on the show you. show. And that's honestly, that's how we feel, too. Like, we're kind of like, oh, that wasn't me on the show. And then we look at each other and we're like, nope. It was us because that we're gay. We're married. Which is a strange feeling. You know, especially never being in front of the camera before and never ever talking in interviews before, you know, except for job interviews. I mean, other than that, you know, it was, I mean, really, it was the best
Starting point is 00:28:51 experience in my life. Honestly, it really was. So. So. So, before Gary comes out, you have a chat with Jesse and kind of talk about your time with Gary. You show off your beautiful earrings that you're wearing tonight, which are gorgeous. Yeah. Also, I was so jealous of your date because I love Michael. Custillo. Oh, my God. I'm going to say Custello. Yeah, you're really loving. No, I do. I have a bunch of his dresses. I have a bunch of his dresses. But you also, you know, on top of all the light, happy conversation, you talked about your friend Roberta and her daughter was in the audience tonight. What did that mean to see her there? I don't know if you knew this, but I didn't know she was going to be there. And I had just
Starting point is 00:29:38 finished saying, well, her daughter, Courtney and my children, and we're all watching the episode for the first time. And then Jesse made the indication that there was someone here that was very special. And next thing I know, I said her name, and the next thing I turned around And I said to Jesse, can I go down to see her? I mean, I didn't know what I was supposed to do. And that was a good hug. You know, getting a hug from Courtney was a really, it's very special. It made me feel like her mom was there.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah. Well, we are very sorry for your loss. And the story was a lot and very heartbreaking. But it was a beautiful moment to see you with her daughter. And I think, you know, probably felt like she was there in spirit with you tonight. she was it actually there was sounds coming from the ceiling and my producer said you know maybe that was Roberta I mean it was really loud like you know but I said don't even think that I can't even go there life's been crazy enough these past few months for you um seeing
Starting point is 00:30:43 best thing ever seen uh seeing Gary tonight now before seeing him tonight did you feel like you did have closure. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So then how did it make you feel just seeing him tonight? Actually, I felt really happy for him. I'm sure he found happiness. He found the girl that was good for him. I've learned from this whole experience that if I'm going to be involved with someone, they better like me or love me as much as I love them because otherwise it's not a relationship. It's one-sided. And I was, once I got over the fact that I didn't get the rows that I was expecting to get or hoping to get, I realized, well, I don't know if I would be a good match to him anyway.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Because if he doesn't want me as much as I wanted him, then the connection wouldn't be there. And I'm really open to that. That's, especially the stage in my life. I made a really wonderful life for myself. And I'm sure the person that I would date or go out with, made a decent life for that. themselves. We're at the stage now where most of us are retired. And I don't want to give all that up. And I'm sure that person doesn't either. And it comes to terms with it and join forces. And I mentioned to Gary, I wanted a teammate, you know, and he wasn't my
Starting point is 00:32:08 player. You know, that was it. So it's okay. Yeah, it is okay. And you seem to be in a really good place. And everyone loves you. We love you. Before we let you go, I got to ask real quick. Who was the best pickleball player on that court that day? Oh, good question, Joe. You? I knew it was you. It was you, right? I'm a captain of a team.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Oh, there we go. I am in Delray Beach. And the beginning was like really cool. Like, everybody's like, oh, my God, she's the captain of T-shirt. And then we go to these different communities and they all want to like take selfies and stuff. And the girls on my team are like rolling their eyes. Oh, here we go again. Like, let's just put a pickleball, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Picklewell celebrity. Oh, look, we've got a double interview going on now. We've got Natasha coming in too. Well, Ellen, thank you so much. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Thank you for being team, Ellen. I appreciate that. You got it. Thanks, Alan. All right. Natasha just jumps right on in. I love that. Let's go. How you feeling tonight? I feel amazing and so are both of you. Oh, thank you. We feel amazing also. We're very happy to have you here today. I'm happy that you are having. me here and I'm happy to be here. Good. I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:33:25 So how did it feel seeing all the women tonight? Actually, you know what? You know what? Don't answer that. Don't answer that. How did it feel watching Stephen A. Smith talk about you? Did you see that? Because I know you saw that. So many people sent me that over and over again. Well, let me tell you, I was blown away when he said, look at Natasha
Starting point is 00:33:54 Go back to Natasha No no no go back to her Look at that And I was like Okay I might need to jump in Stephen A DMs Or Stephen A
Starting point is 00:34:05 I'm gonna put it right out there Stephen A I'd love to meet you in person I said a message and stuff And he told him thank you for shouting me out And all the women out on the Golden Bachelorette So I was really happy That he gave us
Starting point is 00:34:21 a shout-out. I figured if we made the sports somebody's sex segment, sports segment, you're making it. You know what I'm saying? If we come up in the men's sports arena, honey, we are we saying. I was going to say like the fact that Golden Bachelor has made its way into men's sports, like that's how you know it's a big deal. That's definitely never happened before. I agree. Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Okay, so tonight, how was it being back? seeing all the women for um you know it's been a few months it was like being home okay do you know when you go when you're not home and then you go home and everybody loves and hugs on you and tells you great things and just kiss you up and all that that's what it felt like it felt like being home it felt like love overflow like a like a home cooked meal and desserts wow Wow, it sounds pretty good. No, the tellos are the best. They're so much fun.
Starting point is 00:35:26 But you know what? You know what I wonder? And I think this, even in our case, too, like all these women are now, you guys, you went through this so you have this special bond and you are so close. But do you think like, let's say at your, at your gym or your health club, wherever you met one of these women, there's a good chance you guys might not even, you'd meet and not even be friends. And now you're bonded together for life. Do you ever look at it like that? Here's how I look at it. I look at it.
Starting point is 00:36:00 If I would have said no to the opportunity to be on the show, I probably would have never met any of these women. If I would have met these women in real life, I probably would have bonded with them because that's just the kind of person I am. My niece tells me, everywhere you go you make community you make family and and the reason why I do that is because I like to feel comfortable where I am so I like I like to know people get to know people
Starting point is 00:36:29 create a relationship or community where I'm at because I need to be in a space where I feel safe and that's just who I am you're a people person yeah I'm an introvert extrovert quite honest with you that's been the most popular and We asked a lot of the women if they were introverted or extroverted and are like rapid fire questions around. And a lot of people say they're, they're in the middle. I wouldn't say I'm in the middle. What I would say is like, you see how energetic I am. Most people are like, you wake up like that in the morning, don't you?
Starting point is 00:37:06 And I'm like, no, I don't. When I wake up in the morning, I like quiet. It has to be quiet. I've actually been in a hotel with no, like, next to no TV. so I have no sound, no music, whatever, in the morning and in the evening. Like, I have to have my downtime in the a.m. and in the p.m. I cannot have all of that because that's my resetting time. And so that would be like the introverted part of me.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And the extroverted part of me would be when I'm like here, out and about, be on television or be on social media. you see that extrovert come out. And so I wouldn't say I'm in the middle. It's just that I become an introvert in order to recharge and I'm an extrovert when I'm charged up. Well, tonight we definitely saw the charged up extroverted version of Natasha, which was so exciting. Today was a big night.
Starting point is 00:38:08 There was a lot that happened. What were your favorite moments, your standouts from the night? what was my big moment that stand out for the night um you know i would say do you mean on the show during the show yeah during the during the women tell all tonight you know what stood out for me was just being there it was like live I've seen this on TV, but it's not, it's, it's completely different. It's surreal to be in the moment and be on the stage and do this live. And I think the bloopers were like the funniest and the most, the part that stood out most of me
Starting point is 00:39:01 because you got a chance to see everybody being silly, you know, or messing up or doing, you know, being their authentic self, you know. Yeah. The blupers are always great because it can get really heavy at these tell-alls. Obviously, there's a lot of serious conversations happening, and it's so nice to end on this light, fun note. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, Natasha, thank you so much for hopping on.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And we love watching you and you have such a great energy. So thank you so much for coming to Happy Hour. Thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you for having me. And I loved being here. And great to meet both of you. Great to meet you as well.
Starting point is 00:39:41 as well. Enjoy your night. Congratulations. I'm being done. And let me tell you this. If nobody's told you that they love you today, let me be the first to say, I love you and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Go be amazing because you both are. Thank you. Wow. I love that. Wow. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to
Starting point is 00:40:20 know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to do. choose an adapted strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you because it's easy to say like go you go blank yourself right it's easy it's easy to just drink the extra beer it's easy to ignore to suppress
Starting point is 00:41:27 seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way avoidance is easier ignoring is easier denial is easier drinking is easier yelling screaming is easy complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Myceles Brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy, are building an alternative to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric,
Starting point is 00:42:13 I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to political influence and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one download at a time. We should be focusing on the issues and actually occupy a lot of the mental space in Americans' minds,
Starting point is 00:42:37 but are filled with conspiracies, and we should fill it with the truth and solutions. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Susan. All right, we are here. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Chris Jenner's BFF. Nice. You see? Of course we saw it. Susan is here. Welcome to Happy Hour. Yeah, let's just get, Susan, let's just get right into it. How was it?
Starting point is 00:43:07 how was it seeing chris jenner sent a video jessie paver showed it to us she gave you a shout out walk us through everything susan i was all emotional i couldn't believe it was such a surprise did you even consider that this could happen i hoped i really wanted to have lunch right you know what you have one foot in the door she knows your name she knows who you are you had a little bit of chit-chat over the phone? It made my die. I love that woman. Maybe lunch is next. I know. I'm definitely how was the night for you overall seeing all the women, seeing Gary tonight? Seeing the women was the best part. Seeing Gary, that was easy because like I said, we were in the friend zone and I felt sorry for him because he had to do that with Ellen and then the faith part. I felt so,
Starting point is 00:44:06 so bad because I know he is genuine. He was always present and gave you 100% of his attention. And then to have to make those decisions, that's what it's about. I keep putting myself in his shoes thinking I'd probably fall in love with three men. And then you have to decide how hard is that? But I'm willing. So this is like, I mean, it would be hard, but I would do it. If anyone's listening, I would do it.
Starting point is 00:44:34 yeah yeah it was rough i mean it's it's not yeah it's not easy for anyone um how did you feel do you feel bad for faith i mean she was really going through it she's she's healed though yeah she was healed yes i did feel bad for up there because she was reliving everything as it was shown yeah broke my heart so what is what is the plan moving forward how are you are you dating are you ready what's up i've always been right However, I don't think I'm going to go back to the dating sites. No. Now, it's just tiresome.
Starting point is 00:45:13 You're above that now. You're dating on TV at this point. I'm going to attract people now. I'm not going to run to people anymore. And if it's not in the cards, then it's not in the card. You know what Susan's telling us is people are in her DMs. That's what she's telling us. Susan, who's in your DMs right now?
Starting point is 00:45:30 All women. All women. And then after the ice cream. thing. Oh my gosh. I kissed a girl when I was 18 and you might think I've got all kinds of fans. So you're getting, but you are, you are getting
Starting point is 00:45:44 hit on it. That's good. That's good to know. I do feel like you are probably the biggest winner of tonight because you got what you, you got the shot out from Chris Jenner. That was awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So what was, I can't make people watch it. That was, I got to say, one of the best nights. I'm sure that was the best moment for you of the night. What were a couple other highlights? Some favorite moments, some moments maybe you didn't love. What are the standards? Of course, they didn't. Well, my meatballs,
Starting point is 00:46:16 they're never going to give that up. Yeah, they're not. I love her guacamole, but it's definitely the guacamole. You know what? Raw onions and garlic are hard on the stomach. Thank you. They are. It's a proven fact. I was a pig. I told you that. I eat a lot. Well, what do you put in your meatballs? Do you put onions and garlic?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Yeah, but they're cooked. Do you put onions in your meatballs? Yeah. Do you put bread? Yes. Bread? Got eggs, cheese. Joe's writing down the recipe as we speak.
Starting point is 00:46:48 I got my own recipes. And then a real quick question. One more question on meatballs. Do you put them in sauce or do you go plain? I fry them first. Yeah. Brown and crispy, and then I put them in the gravy. Okay, but Denny, you're your kids, do they ever eat them before they go in the gravy?
Starting point is 00:47:08 Are they good enough? Are they good enough? A whole bowl of fried meatballs for the time before dinner. Okay, I respect that. Okay, yeah, that's my grandmother. Or if you make an I-OI-Oi, you make spaghetti I-Oi with fried meatballs. Okay. I like that.
Starting point is 00:47:24 All right, Susan. Thank you so much for coming back on. We'd love having you on this podcast. you're so much fun to watch very happy for you you got to meet Chris Jenner or kind of almost it's coming
Starting point is 00:47:38 it's one step in the right direction I see it happening Susan we're gonna miss you we're skims I'm here thank you so much I enjoy you thanks Susan
Starting point is 00:47:53 we'll miss you congrats on everything we'll hopefully talk to you soon Hello, you two. Remember me. Oh, Sandra. I almost just closed the podcast. You just showed up.
Starting point is 00:48:07 You snuck up on us. You look beautiful. Thank you. Do it. I love it. No, you look great. You still look very fresh. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:48:17 How did everything go tonight? How did it feel being back? Oh, it's fun. You know, one seeing Gary, but and even Jesse. but to just seeing my sister wives can't be beat, can't be weak. And of course, the night is still young as far as we're concerned.
Starting point is 00:48:36 We have some more reuniting to do. Oh, yeah, what's the plan for the sister wives tonight? Are you guys going out? I hear that we're all going to meet at the hotel and you have some food and just get together. That's going to be fun. And they're all talking about my bloopers. Sondra, they did you dirty showing that in the bluephras.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I'm going to have to prepare my kids. They're going to have to explain to their friends why their mother is farting on TV. Well, explain to them that you didn't think it was going to be on TV. Because at some point I had thought that when I was getting my interview that he had cut. And as it turned out he hadn't, but I was too far gone. on in the cycle. That's why I said, far. And you guys don't know that the length of time that I was actually expelling was far greater than they showed on that show. Wow. Because I had been, you know, I had been sick on the show. And they were pumping with IV of something. And I was
Starting point is 00:49:45 drinking electric lights. And my stomach got all distended. And I couldn't wait for the interview to be over. And then finally, I said, hey. And so I just, bloopers. what are you going to do you know what i you look great doing it sandra i don't know if you're watching bacheloring huh joe is that which i'm sorry smearly i was going to say i don't know if you're watching bachelor in paradise but there's a girl who had some also some serious tummy issues so it's okay she's in the audience tonight yes she was so she's supporting you nine days no pooping i know a little different but also girlie's got to tummy issues. What can you say?
Starting point is 00:50:29 How did it feel seeing Gary again? Oh, I enjoyed it. You know, it's good looking in those deep blue eyes again. You know, my Frank Sinatra 2.0. Yeah, it was fun seeing. I got another hug. I stole a hug. I know.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Sandra, I saw you sprint up onto the stage the minute of the show and I'm watching I'm like, oh, there's Sandra. I wanted to get mine in it because there would have been a rush. Yeah. You were smart. There you guys.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Okay, then what does dating look like now for you? Are you going to get back out there? I don't know, but I'm going to be selective, of course. But, you know, like I said, I'm pumped. I'm motivated. And, you know, I know now that there's possibility of good guys out there and they're waiting for me. And, no, I'm, I'm where I was before, well, I'm actually a little more motivated now than I was before I went on The Bachelor, but I'm pumped.
Starting point is 00:51:36 What's your dating strategy? Are you on the apps? Are you on the dating sites? Are you trying to get set up with a friend? Well, I was on apps. I think I told you guys once before. I speed dated, traditional dated, all the dates. that. Oh, yeah. So I will probably go back on one or two of the dating apps and see. And then again, it may not have to. I don't think you're going to have to, Sandra. I think you're telling us something without telling us. That's what I think so. I wish I, well, no. I'm not. Okay, maybe not. Maybe not. But I think, I think there's going to be a lot of guys coming after you now. So I wish you nothing but the best. And I hope you guys have so, I have so much fun tonight in the hotel lobby. Yes. Enjoy. Enjoy your big debrief that you're about to have. Catch up with everyone. Have some some good drinks. Yes. Well, Sandra, thank you so much for coming on.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It was so nice having you on again. And have a lovely, lovely evening. Yeah, we'll talk to you soon. Thanks, Sandra. All right, guys, that was another wild tell all. Stay tuned because the season is not wrapped yet. And make sure you tune in and subscribe to Happy Hour because we have exclusive interviews every week, and we never stop podcasting. Bye. There we go. See you later. Bye.
Starting point is 00:53:01 My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want or gone.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier. Complex problem solving takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with
Starting point is 00:54:08 Jasmine Crockett, Democratic Representative of Texas. She's holding out the fork for her party in one of the most conservative states in the Union. I think that ultimately, who will will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves to be punched and just say thank you. Like, they will punch back. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.

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