Bachelor Happy Hour - LIVE from ‘Women Tell All’ with Alexe, Alli Jo, Sarafiena, Dina & Grant

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” Serena is sitting down with Grant’s women to talk all things “Women Tell All”! Hot off the stage, Sarafiena, Dina, Alli Jo, Alexe, and Grant are here to dish on all the tea from the night! We’re talking unresolved feelings, post-“Tell All” clarity, “Paradise” possibilities, and so much more! Be sure to tune in so you don’t miss any of the juicy details and make sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Joe is unfortunately sick, but we are so excited because we are here live from the Women to All. They just finished recording, and we're going to have the chance to talk to a few of the ladies and Grant to get all their thoughts, recapping the night, the highlights, the low lights, all the things. So let's get into it, shall we? Just a quick little overview of the night.

We had a lot of drama to dive into tonight. We saw them talk a lot about Zoe. Definitely a bummer that Zoe wasn't at the tell-all. Would have loved to have heard her side of things. And obviously, it's always hard when someone's not there to defend themselves. I think Serafina did a great job stepping up and just trying to kind of play that role for Zoe on her behalf. but also interesting to hear all of the women's thoughts on Zoe and get a little more context on what went down there from Beverly, Allie Joe, and some of the other girls.

Then we dove into the Carolina versus Rose conflict. And gosh, I feel like Rose did a really good job this whole season. Honestly, just what she was given to work with. She was in a very unfortunate and impossible situation. But I think she took accountability for the role that she played in it. I think she was genuine in the mistake that she made. I don't think there was any malicious intent there. And, yeah, truly just unfortunate that that had to be how her journey unfolded.

But I think she really did the best she could, cleared her name here. And I don't know if she got the closure she was maybe looking for with Carolina, but I think we can put that situation to bed. Following it up, a lot of Carolina tonight, obviously. I mean, she was really a star of this season in so many ways. and the girls had a ton to say about it. I'm looking forward to talking to some of them and just getting their thoughts and feelings

on how everything played out, including Dina, who kind of had a friends turned enemies, turned friends, turn enemies situation with Carolina this season. Very complicated dynamic. It's not feeling like they're on great terms, but we will definitely see where Dina's head is at

with all the Carolina stuff tonight when we talked to her. We had some great hot seats from the girls. We saw Alex. chat a little bit about her relationship with Grant and someone that I'm definitely hoping we see in Paradise, hoping she brings Linda the Lama as well, couldn't hurt anyone. And we had Serafina, who we will be chatting with as well. She went home right before hometowns. I think she shocked everyone by not getting a rose to go to hometowns. I think, you know, at least for me, she was kind of a for sure thing. And that was definitely a twist in the plot. So I'm curious to see how she

felt about tonight, seeing Grant again and just their overall relationship and also how her mom feels about everything. She's kind of a new star in the franchise and maybe we'll see her own golden. Who knows? Then we had Dina's hot seat. So much talk about with Dean tonight, both with the drama and with her relationship with Grant. She's obviously the last girl to go home right after hometowns and a little bit of a different situation with her family not being present. I know that was a big topic tonight on how that weighed on her relationship with Grant, also weighed on her and she made a hard decision by not bringing them that may have ended her relationship with Grant and we'll find out you know how she feels about that if there's any regrets there

Carolina had a hot seat as well we will not be chatting with Carolina tonight but I feel like she really laid it all out there both in her conversations with the women with Jesse and with grant I can imagine she had a very challenging and draining night she obviously was doing a lot of talking as she was involved in a lot of the season so let's just give everyone a little bit of grace when we're trying to be keyboard warriors and all of that I think it's nice to be nice and probably a challenging night for her. Then we saw Grant. We ought to close it out with Armand Grant, the Bachelor, the Star the Moment.

Will he or will he not get engaged? We all want to know. I think it was overall smooth sailing for Grant. There wasn't anything too complicated overall with his conversations. All the women seemed pretty comfortable with him and how things went. In terms of closure, I feel like that's what we all come to the tell-all. to find, right? The women want to find closure with each other. They want to find closure with Grant. And as viewers, we want to find closure on all the drama and the various storylines that

we saw this season. I don't know how I feel about closure from this episode. I think that there was maybe a lot left unsettled. But I think that with this season, specifically a lot of the drama that we saw, we're going to have to be comfortable with people agreeing to disagree and everyone's truths and experiences being a little different in the situation, there wasn't that kind of hug, kiss, make up moment between a lot of the girls. There wasn't that moment necessarily between Carolina and Grant, not saying they ended on bad terms. I just think that some of these girls are going to carry on to be friends and some of them won't, and that's totally okay, but they're always going to be bonded from this journey and their relationships with Grant. And I think that hopefully

a little bit of time and space is going to make everyone feel settled and give them. the closure that if they didn't get it tonight, they'll hopefully feel later on. And for us as viewers, I think that, yeah, this is just going to be one of those seasons where it's not necessarily a full-blown, clean, happy ending, and that's okay too, because you know what, that's life. And I think it makes for kind of an interesting season, an interesting tell-all, and will hopefully lead us to an interesting finale. So those are our overall highlights on the episode tonight.

We hope you guys loved it as much as we did. and stay tuned to hear thoughts from the women. Hello, Serena. Hello, Alex. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thank you. How are you? Is it late there?

It is. It's like 10 o'clock here. But we're happy to be here. It's just me today. Just a little girl chat. A little girl chat. Let's do it. So first, the most important question,

what's going on with the lashes? Okay. So remember that scene where, or not a scene, the podcast it goes not a lip not a lash not an eyebrow bare face so today i was like i need to step it up and bring the lashes on so that's what we did okay they look fabulous thank you i think it really that's what was missing the whole season i didn't think anything was missing from your glam did you watch it back and feel like you were feeling bare oh my gosh watching it tonight i was like wait literally nothing on and i hide mascara but it's okay lesson learn lesson

I actually did I do feel like I saw a clip that was saying like did Alex go bare face on night one honestly it's I've I've set the record straight I just had a really bad setting spray and really bad mascara apparently so you know what it's a long night too I think you can have all the settings for in the world and you're just never going to look fresh by the time you're getting a rose exactly okay so hot seat we love seeing two French Canadians up there how Was it chatting with Jesse? It was so great to see him. He said something about the best entrance.

And I was like, you are biased because you're Canadian. No, it was really nice to see him again. So I was so surprised because, well, not so surprised. But you said that you felt like you had hometowns in the bag, which was so interesting to me because I feel like all season I've been like, where's Alex? I feel like we don't know about her relationship. So for you to go home that week as a viewer, it kind of. aligned with what we were seeing, right? Can you give us more insight into where your relationship

was at when you went home that night and how it contributed to the blind side? Absolutely. So I think with me and Grant, we kept it really lighthearted throughout the whole season because the first one-on-one, you know, it's the first one-on-one and you don't want to trauma dump the first night, right? And plus we were sitting on the ground and there was like a teddy bear in the background. So they were like, just keep it light. And all I thought like throughout the whole season, And then I kept thinking, I'm just going to wait to hometowns to really open up and tell him who I am and the things that makes me me, right? Because I didn't want to, I felt like I owed it up to own it, owed it up to myself to wait for a longer conversation rather than a 10 minute cut short. So that's where, you know, how I went throughout the journey.

But still, I think it's because we kept it lighthearted and fun, which is me. And like I said, I've said that multiple times. I want to be with my best friend and I feel like we had that foundation and maybe it wasn't as big conversations as other girls maybe. So maybe that's why I was a little bit more in the background. Do you think the reassurance you were getting from Grant along with just kind of the pace that maybe you guys were moving at, you were like, I feel like we're good. I feel like I'm going to hometowns. We're moving at a good pace. I'm getting that reassurance. But now maybe watching it back, you're like, uh, no, it's making sense now. Now it's making sense. And I think a lot

of it too was him saying like I'm a goofy guy like you know I don't have to be serious all the time so every time maybe that's just like delusional but I was like oh he's talking to me he means like he's directly speaking to me meaning like I don't need to be serious all the time so I was like oh the our pace is perfect like this is what he wants or needs and then once we hit hometowns this is where you know I'll really open up about you know things that's happened in my life and whatnot um so yeah I just thought you know you never know what pace he's at with the other girls what I ours was was at a you know great what kind of clarity do you feel like you've gotten watching it back i think seeing the emotional vulnerability with the other women it just made more sense like okay

he was just it's not necessarily that we didn't have a connection it's just that he was moving faster out of faster pace with the other women yeah 100% i feel like you're so right with the fact that the first one-on-one is a blessing but honestly more of a curse It's a double-head sword, absolutely, especially with the season cut short a little bit, because who knows if I would have had more time with them, you know, if they would have been a little bit longer. And with that, it's like you're a stranger, so you're not comfortable yet to speak about certain things on your one-on-one the first time versus having smaller chunks of little times with them and then having your one-on-one. It's like, oh, my gosh, I know you. Like, I want to share this with you. If you had to pick, so you guys had six weeks of dates.

before hometowns which is short usually i think it's like seven or eight it's eight yeah it's eight yeah so in those six weeks if you could have picked which week you got your one-on-one which week do you think you would have picked oh absolutely the last one the last week really you would have picked the last week like knowing if i knew for sure that i was staying the entire time right i feel like that's uncommon but it has become a more favorable week because your season's been so short because the season yeah Exactly. Yeah. Because now you really know the guy and you feel comfortable sharing things.

But, no, if the season was actually like how it is, usually I would have picked first one-on-one and then a second one. Yeah, it's a good set of. It's not the best angle. Oh, my gosh. No, you look beautiful. You look amazing. What were you most excited for tonight? What I'm the most excited about?

Yeah, what were you the most excited for coming into tonight? Honestly, I was excited to see him. And seeing the bloopers, those are so fun. And I feel like I knew some of my words were going to be in there, so I was excited to see that. But, oh, wait, I'm missing the most important thing. The girls, obviously. Seeing the girls. Oh, my gosh.

Like, love you, Grant, but like, decide, the girls. What were you the most nervous for tonight? I think watching my journey back and I didn't know how I was going to react to it. But I think it went pretty well. I mean, it's never a fun feeling to see yourself. I remember the feeling I had in Scotland and watching it back the first time, like last week, I didn't think I was going to be that emotional, but it really hit, you know, hard. So, yeah, I just wasn't sure how I was going to react tonight, but I think, yeah, I handled it pretty well. Watching yourself be sad is, like, harder than I think you would imagine it to be.

It is. And I'm like, someone who's silly, like, I don't care. I'm crying. but yeah seeing me sending myself especially in this context when it's like love involved i think is really you know when you had hopes yeah yeah 100 percent um what is next for you in the dating world what are the hopes and dreams i don't know oh do we see a little seashell on your earrings a little a little manifestation for paradise no but i you know i'm really i do having this journey You know, I really embraced the fact that we were so different, but for some reason, we meshed really well.

So I'm really coming into, you know, my dating world with a very open mind now because I feel like I used to be like, I need the specific type of person to fit my personality. And with Grant, totally opposite. And we had so much fun. So, yeah, we'll see what the future brings. Would you do Paradise, which I personally think you should. I think you're a perfect fit. If you would do Paradise, is there anyone you have your eye on or anything? anything you're specifically looking for in a guy um i mean it's so hard because i you know

personality can be a big thing so do i have to say names i mean you should but you don't have to okay i'll leave it as you can be mysterious if you want i'll be mysterious i'll be open-minded that's all i'm going to say and i'm going to yeah go with an open mind okay last question how was it to see linda the llama tonight i was not expecting that oh my god most emotional moments of the night. No, literally. That's when I teared up. And because I was so nervous the first night. And having her by my side, I remember thinking, thank God, I was going to say a prop, not a prop, but like something else to put my nerves, like calm my nerves. She was your emotional support animal. So no, it was the best surprise. I was so happy. I love that. I love that reunion. Alex, thank you so much for coming on.

Congratulations on tonight. And finally being done. We're wishing you the best and hope to see you in paradise. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm Jemail Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress.

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My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.

I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now.

Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, couple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Allie Joe, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thank you. I'm excited to be here. I know. I feel like we're hoping to get you in the height of things, like right after your departure from the show.

So I'm happy that we're getting you today. Well, by we, I mean myself. Me too. I was like, wow, when am I going on that? I know. Finally. Well, let's get into everything. How are you feeling?

I'm feeling great. I'm feeling excited. I'm happy. I'm happy to be here. This is like a crazy experience you can't put into just one word. But yeah, I'm happy. I'm excited. Okay, good. How are you feeling coming into tonight? Coming into tonight, I, you know, wanted to hear what the girls had to say because I feel like a lot of the times it was always the same girls talking and saying their truth. So I wanted to hear some of the other girls would like step up to the plate. But yeah, going into it, I really didn't want to overthink anything. I don't want to like have a script for myself of what I'm going to say because I don't know what's going to be asked and I'm in the moment person. So yeah,

that's what my headspace is like. It was great to see and obviously it was unfortunate because Zoe wasn't present and that was kind of a big piece of your story was the drama between you and Zoe. But just to kind of get more on that, I know Zoe had the chance to come on and kind of share her side of the story and it just felt like that entire kind of situation between the two of you was snipped up, right? We only got to see. like a really small piece of it. Yeah. What was the most important thing to you to convey when sharing your side of the story

tonight? The most important thing to me is that I will never just like go after someone just to go after them because I feel like a lot of like what I was like portrayed as is like a boxing trainer from Jersey. Am I allowed? Yes. I said that. But that's not just who I am.

That's a very small piece of me. But I do fight back if somebody pushes my buttons and they were pushed. And listen, at the end of the day, we squashed it so I'm ready to like move on from it there's no ill will I don't wish anything bad upon her at all I apologize we at her and I had you know sat and talks the next day so we're good from my perspective I know she went on your podcast and maybe said otherwise but I don't like to like harp on those things and it's that was a small part of me on the on a show you know um yeah so that's how I feel about it if Zoe had been there tonight

how do you think things might have gone differently or would there have been anything specific you wanted to say to her? Yeah, I think her and I could have like resolved it a little bit more. But I would say, you know, I do feel bad because some people are being very mean to her on the internet.

And it's not just her. It is all of us. But something that did bother me is that if you can't like dish it or if you can't take it, don't dish it. And she did start a lot of the stuff that happened that night. I just had a voice.

and sometimes my bark is loud, and it was. But that doesn't mean I'm going to be mad at the girl for the rest of my life or for the rest of the time on The Bachelor, you know what I mean? So that's how I feel about it. Did her approach, because she obviously took a very bold approach early on. Yes. Do you think had you stayed longer on the show, it might have changed how you wanted to approach it? Like, for example, she was someone that clearly wanted to steal him multiple times

and felt comfortable moving in that way. Do you think that's an approach you would have ever adopted or were you like, no, that's not me and that's not how I'm going to go about this? Yeah, that's just not how I go about things. I also don't chase. So to me, it's giving chasing and I want to be chased, right? Obviously, this is a bachelor. It's not the norm. So you can't expect it to be chased.

But that's just not how I would go about things. It's just not who I am. It's not true to myself. What were you most nervous for going into tonight? going into tonight I was mostly nervous about that like bringing that up because I kind of just wanted to like put it in the past and again like I'll reiterate it I don't want any like ill will towards her I don't you know like put up with any of like the negative comments but I think we have all gotten it and that's kind of what you get when you go on the show so I was nervous about that and she wasn't there to defend herself so I don't really think it's fair for for me to continue on to talk about it you know yeah it's kind of nice I feel like a lot of the drama tonight felt like we're leaving it without a clean sense of closure. Maybe everyone's going to draw their own sense of closure. But it does feel like that piece of the season we're able to put to bed. Yes, 100%. And I'm glad about that. Because like that's not, like I said,

there was so much more to me that I wish people could see or at least know. And hopefully one day I get the chance to like kind of tell who I am and my story. Because there was layers to me. And that was just a very small glimpse. Yes. Well, we see that a lot on the show where, you know, you're just getting kind of a glimpse of people because it is so short-lived, but sometimes there's a second chance to see a little more, learn a little more. Would you go to Paradise? Yeah, so I've been asked that multiple times. Would I go if I get that opportunity? If I'm single, then yes, I would probably do it. Okay. What would you be looking for? What's your type? I really go for personality. My type is somebody that's obviously like nurturing and caring,

but I'm really independent and I am okay standing on my own two feet, but I want someone to lean on. I want somebody that I can rely on because I'm a very reliable person, but I haven't really found that in a significant other. And then somebody who's really close to their family or can at least be very close to my mom and my sister because we are so close. Oh, I love that. That's amazing. Okay, well, I have a feeling we will see you in Paradise.

I hope we do. And thank you so much for chatting with us. Thank you. It was so nice to meet. Thanks for having me. It was nice to meet you too. Be nice to meet with everything. Congrats on being done.

Bye. Thank you. All right. we have Serafina back on Bachelor Happy Hour for round two. Hello. Hello. How are you? Good. How are you? You've had a big night. I was a big night. It was a really big night. I'm exhausted, but. Are you feeling like all the adrenaline now that you're finally officially done? Yeah. I feel good. I feel like closing a chapter. Ready to move on to the next. Yes. Well, you've had a big night. We have a lot to chat with you about. So let's get right into it. I want to. I want to. I want to. I want to. I want to be a big night. We have a lot to chat with you about. So let's get right into it. I want. I want. I want. I want to dive into the drama of it all. How do you feel like things were left? How do you think things were handled? What are your overarching feelings? Yeah. So I feel like today it kind of sucks that. I think as a group collectively, we wanted to have a coming together moment. I mean, I know you know this. It's like we all went through an experience together and we all,

you know, we have this bond. At the end of the day, it's like the journey with Grant is over and And it's like, why can't we just now all be friends in a sense and kind of hear each other out? And I feel like that was not resolved tonight. And it's just unfortunate that we didn't have that resolution tonight. Let's jump to your time with Grant. You obviously received a lot of validation. You know, you felt that way. We also saw it.

And I think people were so shocked. I was so shocked, to be honest, when you didn't get a hometown rose. Were you surprised or did you feel that coming? No, I was completely shocked. for me it's like I'm a very matter of fact straightforward person if I felt like I was not getting validation and I had a conversation with him in week three where I was like I don't know if I feel confident and he gave me the extra bonus date that week he gave me a one on one the next week we had a very good conversation in Scotland which was like you know I'm very excited to meet your family

like what are we going to do in your hometown so like in my mind I was like oh okay like we're in the bag like when are we going home so I think I definitely felt blinds I didn't that moment but I mean it is what it is I feel like I rather if it weren't me not bring him home to meet my family so that's also a bonus do you wish looking back that he had given you less validation yes yeah a thousand percent because I think sometimes like less is more in that situation where it's like I feel like I could have walked away um and I just yeah I didn't love the feeling of being blindsided honestly do you feel like seeing him and talking to him tonight you got more closure on maybe what had happened with the relationship?

I feel like we definitely didn't really get to have that conversation. But in my heart, in my head, I definitely have closure because at the end of the day, it's like, I think I'm realizing now it just wasn't my person. And also, if I feel like I had to seek validation at that time and ask those questions, then it just wasn't, it wasn't my person. Yeah. Do you feel like watching it back has also kind of helped with that? Yeah.

Watching it back has definitely helped with that. Yeah. I feel like one of the more fun, lighthearted, iconic moments of the season was your comment with Grant about, I don't want to kiss you because my mom's watching. How has the response from people been about that? People love my mom, first of all. They showed her today. Apparently, like, now there's a petition for her to be a golden bachelorette, which I'm, like,

wholly supporting. No, it's so, like, I feel like people really related to it because I was so nervous about it. But people are like, wait, no, it actually is really awkward. a kiss on camera and I just said I feel like what I always do what everyone's thinking so yeah no people loved it I think it's just it shows so much my personality we saw your mom sent in a video message for tonight did you know that was coming or were you seen I had no idea I thought she was coming from like the left stage I was like you guys did not let her out because she's also afraid of flying and I was like how did you get her out here when I saw the video

I was so happy I teared up she's just so cute she is so cute well at the odd chance she She might still be single and want to do Golden Bachelor. I mean, based on your experience with the show, would you be encouraging of her to do that? I'd be so happy. It would be weird to see my mom kiss on camera. Yeah. Not that I think about it. But no, I support any, she supported me throughout all of this.

So I support anything that she does. Okay. Well, we have to, you know, get her more comfortable with flying so we can get her on a flight out to L.A. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, you know, we'll just put it out there. She's going to be Golden Bachelorette. I'm calling it.

I love it. Let's put it out there. Let's manifest it. Manifest it. Was there anything tonight that you feel like was left unsaid, any regrets you have, anything you wish had gone differently? I wish that as a group we could have all heard each other out. I feel like it was very, very, very tense and slightly passive-aggressive, which I think no one wanted that to be the environment, especially like a lot of the girls tonight. In terms of myself, I feel at peace with it.

you know, I'm leaving with really good friends. I'm leaving with so much that I've learned about myself. And I'm really happy. And I hope that everyone else feels that way. All right. And last question. This is the key question of the night. Would you do Bachelor in Paradise?

Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I have a lot of bathing suits. I've been doing Pilates a lot. So maybe. We're prepped. But there has to be, yeah.

So like body-wise and like fit-wise, I'm ready. But heart and minds, I have to get in a good place. That makes sense. You also, like, were one of the more recent people to go home. You literally just finished filming tonight. So I can totally understand. You're like, that probably sounds like a big jump back into the deep end. Yeah, but I will never say no.

I will never say no. Yes. Well, we are rooting for you to find love. And thank you so much. Hopefully we see you again here soon. Thank you. So good to see you again. Thanks.

Bye. Hey, Serena. What's going on? Hi, how are you? I'm good. Happy hour. we have the bachelor himself with us, Grant Ellis. Grant, how was reuniting with all your party girls tonight?

Oh, man. Listen, anytime you're reuniting with your exes, there's some, there's some tension there. And there's, you know, but we, the night ended very well. So I'm happy. How did you feel going into tonight? What were you most excited for or most nervous for? It's nervous seeing your exes, but excited because, you know, when you're on this journey, you care for these ladies and you form connections and just seeing them again, seeing that

everybody's thriving and happy. That's the most important thing. Did you have like a goal going into tonight that you were hoping to achieve? Or like an intention maybe is a better word for it. Yeah. My intention was just for for the ladies to see how genuine I really was and how much I care for them. And I hope that that was that was shown. was there anything watching tonight unfold that was incredibly surprising to you um no i you know i kind of had an idea what was going to be addressed and i just told my truth and you know i took accountability and that's that's that's all you can do yep 100 percent all right let's run through a couple couple of the ladies that you chatted with tonight i think the big headline for you was kind of the

Rose and Carolina drama. Rose, how did you feel about your conversation with her? I feel like the conversation with Rose went really well. And we both, we apologize to each other because during the course of it, you know, definitely words got misconstrued. And I took accountability and so did she. And I think that that's somebody that is a really, really good person with a sweet heart. And, you know, we hash things out.

Yeah. Ironically enough, that might have been the cleanest resolution of the entire night. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Truly, between you and Rose. Right, right. And that's, you know, that's how you know somebody's ready to resolve it and it doesn't have any ill will towards you. 100%. Carolina, how was seeing her again?

Definitely probably your most tense, emotionally charged conversation was between you and her. How are you feeling? Yeah, I think, you know, Carolina's feelings are valid. And everybody reacts differently. But, like I said, taking account. for my flaws because I'm a human. I'm a man and I'm flawed. And I think that I didn't approach, you know, I didn't do it perfect, you know, but I take accountability. And I think that, you know, I hope that she did also. And we both, you know, hopefully, you know, the resolution

stays that way. Yeah. One more question about the Carolina and Rose situation. I just want to hit it on the head a little more. You said, you apologize to Rose and Carolina for not handling the situation the way you should have. How do you feel like you should have handled the situation? Maybe going back just it's difficult because when you're the bachelor and you have feelings, you want to reassure people. But if I could go back in time, maybe I could just reword things better to where there's no room for error, you know, or there's no room for my words to be misconstrued. I think that usually I'm pretty well spoken, but. But, you know, in that situation, me trying to reassure Rose, if I could go back in time,

maybe I would say things different. 100%. I feel like that's also just life, you know? Like, that is a great example of something on the show happening that is just a true miscommunication that can happen in any relationship, dating experience, et cetera, right? Like, everyone has their own interpretations and miscommunications happen all the time. So I think it's great that we were able to clear. air on that situation and hopefully everyone can move forward how was it seeing dina again she was your

last person that you sent home after hometowns um and we saw she got emotional tonight what was that like yeah it was really good seeing dina you know um dina is an amazing woman and she has so much to offer i think that we had a really a really good conversation and you know i felt bad that she left there feeling I'm like I, you know, maybe it was something she did or, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't that. You know what I'm saying? I think Dina has helped me grow a lot and I've helped her, I've helped her grow. And I think that that's what this is about. Yeah.

Can you tease anything coming up? We have some big episodes coming our way for a grand season. We're almost done. Are you excited for the season to be over? I'm excited. Like, you know, this is very, I'm very appreciative. It's a lot, though. You know, I think dealing with public criticism on.

You know, a lot of times me just being myself, everybody has a lot of different opinions. But I'm grateful, and I think that I handled myself really well in these episodes. And I think that, you know, my ending about me being torn, listen, when you love hard, that's what happens. And, you know, I'm not a robot. So I went in there with my emotions, and I think that that comes out. I did the best that I could. We are going to be seeing hopefully a lot of your ladies, a lot of your exes in paradise. this season.

We're also going to see a lot of your former castmates from Jen season. Are there any matches you're hoping to see? Are you playing matchmaker behind the scenes at all? Listen, I think that Jonathan and maybe Alex, that would be a really good couple. I like it. I like it. I think that I'm like drawn blank right now. That's okay.

You've got to be brain fried. You've had a really long day. I'm so proud. right now. I'm not going to blame you for the blank. I know. Yeah, but I think there's a lot. I think there's a lot of people. I want to see Jeremy in there. I want to see Spencer in there. I think Spencer's a sleeper. Like, I think he will go in there and, and he's such a genuine guy. You know, I'm excited to see how Akeem does. And yeah, I, you know what I was going to say? I think I want to see Allie Joe and how she does because she is an amazing person. Yeah, we chatted with her tonight. And I was like, I actually think. paradise will be good for you if you get the chance to go because I know she was saying you know I feel like you only get to see so much of each of these girls right on your season so just getting to see more of them you get to see the full picture of who somebody is yeah well I'm can't wait to see the end of your season grant we're so excited for you and I'm sure it all being said and

done is going to be a huge relief and then you can be back on the viewer side cheering on your friends in paradise that's where listen that's where I'm best on the sidelines cheering on my people So I can't wait. Oh, you're being modest. You've been great. And congratulations on tonight. And thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Saran.

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Walks into a comedy club I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke But that really was my reality nine years ago I just normally do straight stand-up but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015,

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security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth unfortunately for mark lombardo this was the choice he faced he said you are a number a new york state number and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aimed to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming. And, And you don't know who's next to you.

And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dina, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thank you. I'm so glad we get to talk to you. I feel like this is not going to be enough time. But we're going to fly through some questions.

It's so nice to meet you. It's so nice to meet you. I feel like you're giving like baby blue Elwoods tonight. night with your look. Thank you. I am. That's exactly what I was going for. I was going to do a super predictable, like shiny, bedazzled, sparkly, um, like mini dress. And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to like play into the character that I am and do like this whole look. Wait, you have so fun. Yeah. Show me the shoes. I saw them when you're in the hot seat. It's like, oh my gosh. Little slingbacks. I love them. I have a pair like that in black.

Hopefully you didn't see my coo, but it's okay. We'll crop it out. Okay. But I feel like you're black too. You're inspiring me to get them in white for the summer. So that's how I felt. I got the black ones first in a pump. And at the time, I was like, I have nothing to do with the white ones. And then when I found this outfit, I'm like, I am texting my guy at Versace. I'm like, I need the white slingbacks today. And he's like spiraling, trying to get, trying to get like people to come Uber them to the store from a different location. And that's what he did. So you're kind of manifesting bride with the white slingbacks. I kind of am. And now I'm going to wear them all summer. So maybe I'll meet someone. There you go. All right. let's get into tonight before we start manifesting a husband let's talk about women tell all let's talk about it so going to tonight where did you stand with carolina at the start of the night and where do you feel like you stand with her now i thought at the start of the night her and i were kind of in limbo because after the whole social media stuff like we um talked a little bit but it was like it wasn't in depth it was kind of like do you want to talk before the show or should we just talk at the show. And in that moment, I think both of us were just like, let's just like hash it

out there. We'll keep it cute. We both agreed. We'll keep it classy, like not do this whole screaming match that I got into in Scotland. And so by the time the show came around and, you know, we did our whole thing, I feel like we didn't really move the needle forward at all. I think I said like what I wanted to say, which was, you know, apologizing for how hard it came met her in Scotland and how upset I was. And I was like doing the whole finger thing. I hate when that side of me comes out. And it did. And so I apologized for that. And I meant it. And I still, you know, I still feel bad that I did that. But I didn't really get anything from her. You know, like she just kind of like didn't want to take accountability for her part in it. She didn't

really give me much. So yeah, I don't think that we really patched things up. I don't. Yeah, it did feel like a resolution did not exist. You weren't going to get there and kind of two different conversations were being had a lot of the time. Yeah. In regards to your relationship with Grant, how was it seeing him tonight? We obviously saw you went home after hometowns. Are you surprised or were you expecting it? You know, I think the not meeting the family thing was huge, right? And even though I tried to like skate around it, the issue and make it seem like it's no big. deal like my friends are my family too da-da like i knew that it was going to be um you know something

really important and potentially make me go home yeah in that moment i think i was like trying to think positively as the hometown was going on but in the back of my head i was like i he he shouldn't take me seriously in terms of engagement if you haven't met my family like you shouldn't and i shouldn't either because that's crazy um well yeah it wasn't it was expected i think i was still you know, upset about it. And I think I was still shocked because, you know, week after week after week, he could arose. And so when you don't, it's like, oh, it's like a little bit of a like, you know, you know, yeah, that's different. Yeah, that's different. Yeah. And you're like in this bubble. So you're just, you forget that, okay, that means I have to go back to my real life. And

that was like a little bit of a shock for me too. Yeah. It's definitely shell shock kind of jumping out back into the real world. Do you regret, you did say that you actually kind of gave your family the green light to not be present. Like some people were interested, some people weren't and you just said, don't worry about it. But you also articulate that like you do feel like that prevented Grant from being able to take the relationship to the next level and you kind of also would have felt that

way if you were in his shoes. Do you wish that you had brought some of your family on or any? regrets in that situation yeah i think i think i do regret it i think that it could have been a different outcome at least you know bringing me to the next stage and seeing if like we could work something out and seeing if my feelings could get there but i think the fact that i didn't is okay too like i have peace with that because i think it worked out for the way that it should have um and i said something i don't remember if i said it today before i was talking to someone else but um i think think bringing my family into the picture and convincing them that I'm ready for an engagement

in two weeks when I didn't necessarily feel that way. It was a scary thought that in two weeks I could be engaged. It would feel really dishonest for me to talk to my family about like, yeah, we're ready, like we're doing this when I couldn't convince myself of that, you know? So maybe you could have changed something in another week, but maybe it couldn't. I don't know, but I just know everything happens for a reason that I'm okay with that. Do you feel like you got closure tonight talking to Grant, kind of expressing him how you were feeling about the hometown situation and what you saw him say in his interviews, and you can kind of, you know, leave that in a peaceful place and move forward.

I do. Um, I do. I think that the fact that I got to talk to him and let him know that I regretted the way that I handled the whole family thing and apologize for if I didn't give him the space where he felt like he could share with me that it could be a make or break situation. he had never said that to me before so I felt like I needed to tell him that and I'm in apologize you know if I didn't make you feel like you could open up to me in that way and say that it upset you and tell me that it's a make or break then that's something that you know

I take with me and I want to make sure that I recognize that in my next relationships like I want to be able to make you feel safe to say something that might be uncomfortable yeah so yeah I think it was a great night for you overall I'm glad you guys ended on closure and you are beautiful and accomplished and you obviously hold yourself to a very high standard and you're going to find the perfect person for you. I appreciate you so much. If you know anyone, let me know. We'll keep our eyes out in Chicago. Okay. Thank you. I know you guys have some ties. We'll see. Yeah, you guys have some ties to Chicago. So I'm open. Just let me know.

We will let you know, Dina. Thank you so much for coming on Bachelor Happy Hour. Have a good night. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in to Bachelor Happy Hour and listening to to all of our Women Tell All Recaps and interviews. And be sure to tune into Grant's Fantasy Suite episode coming to you on Monday night. We will have lots more episodes. So also subscribe to Bachelor Happy Hour as we finish off Grant's season. Thanks for listening. Bye.

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