Bachelor Happy Hour - Living it Up with Natascha Hardee | Golden Hour
Episode Date: June 19, 2024Today on Golden Hour, Kathy and Susan sit down with a very special guest, Natascha Hardee! Natascha is here to talk all things dating in your Golden years. We kick off today's episode catching up ...with Natascha; it's a Golden Bachelor roommate reunion! Then, we get into the strategy and key perspective when it comes to dating in your later years; how do you best prepare for a first date? Natascha has all the answers and you're not gonna wanna miss them! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate.
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And today we have a very, very special guest, our friend, pro aging coach and golden
bachelor fan favorite, Natasha Hardy is here.
Hi, Natasha. Thanks so much for joining us.
Hi, Natasha.
Hi, I love it. I love what you ladies.
are doing and we are former roommates. Remember that? Yes, we are. Yes, I remember Natasha,
you and I had to fight for closet space. You remember that bunk bed, Natasha? You were a good
sport. I can tell you that. Yeah, yes, indeed. So tell me about life in New York City.
Life in New York City is very exciting. I have to say my most recent escapade was
going to pick up my granddaughter from boarding school last weekend and was so interesting.
I had asked one of my ex-boyfriends to drive me up to pick her up from boarding school,
and that went really well.
Oh, to tell.
How well did it go?
What on this planet, what reason did you have to call an ex-boyfriend to go pick up your granddaughter
at boarding school?
because I know she goes to go boarding school in Massachusetts.
That's not around the corner.
No.
And to be quite honest with you, there's a number of my ex-boyfriends I keep in contact with.
I have a good relationship.
We have a good friendship, right?
After our relationship, well, situation.
I do, too.
I'm with you.
And there's a couple of them that I have really good relationships with.
Are there any that Susan and I might be interested in?
We'll tell you what someone told me.
There's a reason why they're in X.
That's your saying.
So do tell.
Go there.
I want to know, how is the drive up?
What did you talk about?
Are you reconsidering dating him?
Yeah.
I am not reconsidering dating him.
Is he reconsidering you?
I don't know.
That did not surface in the conversation.
However, I can say that 10 years ago, we broke up, we separated, and I don't think we had closure.
And that time we spent together gave us closure in our relationship.
And even though we've been speaking and connecting over the last 10 years, I didn't realize,
and I don't think he also didn't realize that we didn't have closure.
and we spoke about that, we didn't really have closure.
And there was a whole thing that went on between us where we like spoke about things
and shared and really connected in a way that allowed us to heal.
And I do honestly believe that has opened up something for me, a way for me to now
start dating in a full capacity.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Natasha, all this happened on an hour and a half drive to
Western Massachusetts? Give me a break. Come on.
Excuse me. Excuse me. Let me tell you. It's four hours away because it's
four fields, right? It's way over. It's three to four hours away.
And because he came from Virginia to come here.
I asked him to come the day before we were leaving, and then we drove up the day before Dana got out of school.
Where did he spend the night before?
Right.
He's here.
Okay.
Stayed here.
And that's why we were able to talk and connect a lot, right?
And I bet you did connect.
Yeah.
Well, I'm going to use your saying, I don't kiss in town.
Oh, interesting.
So, Natasha, let me ask you something here.
I mean, for me, I don't get all this.
For me, you know, closure takes like 30 seconds.
Goodbye.
So, you know, four hours, I don't know, like whatever.
I'm glad, though, seriously.
I'm happy for you that you guys had closure and you can move on and you want to date,
which brings me to my question.
What's dating like?
Are you dating?
Give us the scoop.
I feel like dating in New York is challenging.
The men, the female to male ratio is very high.
And I do feel like men are here in New York are playing the field.
I don't really find men who are, who seriously want to settle down.
And my goal is my next, within the next,
two years, I plan to leave New York, and I really feel that I will find someone outside of New York.
However, I'm going to get my dating chops in effect between now and the time I...
I will tell you, Natasha, my daughter lived and worked in New York for several years,
and she said the same thing that, you know, she's, she dated, she had a great job, she's beautiful,
she's smart, all of that. She said she would date a guy, and then, you know,
he'd be, but what else is out there?
Like the commitment thing was a big thing she said in New York.
All right, I have a question for you, Natasha.
I know you're a dating, pro-life aging coach and all that.
What's one thing that you wish people knew about dating as, you know, as we age?
I wish people knew how to date.
The biggest thing I'm realizing is we were never taught how to date as young women,
as adult women
and when we go back in the dating
pool in this stage
we're going back into the dating
the dating scene
with those teenager skills we had
and who the heck goes through
their life without
re-upping their skills
as they grow. We don't normally
do that and if you're in a marriage
you're doing that or
you know when you're separated from
your husband or your partner
and now you go back in the pool
you don't have the skills. I really feel like I wish we had skills and taught how to date.
Okay, give me the one skill. Give me the one skill we need. What's the skill, Susan, and I need?
To go on chat, GPT, and download questions to ask your partner.
And we chat GPT and find out dating questions, which is what I did before I went on the
bachelor. I had questions, the correct questions that asked. People are asking questions
that are way too deep and not asking questions that are get to know you questions.
They're more. You mean, I shouldn't ask the guy on the first date, how many zeros are in his
bank account? Is that going too deep? No. That's my problem, Susan.
You really get to ask somebody like, what's your favorite vacation you've been on?
Um, you know, if, I've said that one.
Yeah.
If you had a, favorite meals.
Yeah.
If you had a magic wand and you could and, and you had all the time in the world,
all the money in the world, what, what is it that you would do?
Oh, I like that.
That's a great question.
I like that.
These are, like, the questions get to be deep, but they get to know you questions.
Exactly.
To know a friend.
And I don't think we do that.
We, we kind of get to.
carried away in the process and that's that's where we go wrong women you know we kind of go in
and like we already got at the altar with the guy my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly
and now I'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute Sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for
extra credit well Dakota it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out
soon this person writes my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot he doesn't
a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just
want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same
age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because
he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated
with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast.
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heart radio app search emergency intercom and listen now i have a question so is it not cool when you're
getting to know someone to ask them if they know what their love language is i think it's too early
maybe about a third date you just get in and know the person knowing someone wanting to know someone's
love language takes time.
And I also feel that it's not a cut and dry thing.
It's not like cookie cutter.
Some people could have multiple love languages depending on.
You're looking at it.
I can't pass that test because I'm like, all of these things are different for me
depending on day, the time, a year, or whatever.
Again, for me, Susan and I, we've talked about this whole love language thing.
I'm like, what do you want to know my love language?
What's your, like, what you want, what I want?
The whole question confuses me.
But I absolutely agree with you, Natasha.
You have to just sort of get to know somebody first.
And so with that in mind, tell me what's your ideal date?
My ideal date or partner?
No, like you're going on a date.
What's your ideal date?
Drinks, dinner, Netflix, chilling at home.
What do you think?
An activity?
If I want to get to know someone, first date, first date, coffee.
and maybe like a light, a brunch
or something like some very simple coffee
because if I don't like the person
I want to be able to get up and go.
I agree with that.
If they're good,
if I'm good with them,
then we could order a little nash or something.
Yeah, have a little nash.
So are you looking for something different
in a partner at this stage of your life
than you thought you were way back when?
And what is?
Hell, yes.
I'm going to take that as affirmative.
Yes, tell us, tell us.
I am looking for someone who has the ability to have an emotional intelligence,
like a level of sensitivity that we can relate.
Communication is key.
And I would like to have someone who can be intimate.
And I'm talking about intimacy, not.
Physical intimacy, that's going to come. I'm talking about an intimacy of connection, being
able to pay attention and notice. Oh, you seem like you may be upset or bothered or are you okay and
being able to hug, being able to sit quietly or hold hands or go for a walk in a park, intimacy, connection, eye gazing, really getting to
know someone and I feel like back to the love language question when you do that you'll know
what the person's love language is when you get to know someone it won't you don't it doesn't have
to be quote unquote their love language you'll know and you'll get to know and you'll get to
know and having intimacy allows a person to feel safe for them to drop their guard and you
to drop your guard so there is a connection where you can actually be your authentic self
And that is, Susan, Susan, that's the problem for us.
What?
You and I have not been our authentic selves.
Yes, we have.
I know I have.
I was kidding.
That's the part.
That's why we don't have anybody.
That's why you are single because we are authentically, authentically ourselves.
And I like to be with somebody that you're still comfortable in silence.
You're comfortable.
You heard me say that.
Be silent.
Being able to be quiet together.
The thing is, Kathy, you have to understand that sometimes being your authentic self is a form of a defense mechanism and the way it comes across can be very brash or abrasive to someone.
So there's a level of being your authentic self where you're soft and receptive.
Soft eyes.
Reciprocity going on where you're giving and receiving in exchange.
between the person.
So sometimes being able to fall back allows
and having space for the person to be themselves
is not really so much about you showing who you are,
but being yourself in a space of flow,
if that makes sense.
And comfort, right?
Be comfortable in your own skin.
What I've learned later in life,
was to relax and listen because they tell you, you see.
And sometimes when you're nervous, you go, da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
And I'm not, I don't have to do that anymore.
Now it's just like, okay, show me who you are.
Men are problem solvers.
So men like to solve problems.
The key thing is, like you said, Susan, is to be a listener.
Be a listener.
Listening is a skill. It is a skill. And, you know, Natasha, I make a lot of jokes, but seriously, on the dates that I have, I am very good at asking the questions and listening. And that's how I find out pretty darn quickly whether I'm interested or not. I think it's, we talk all the time about red flags. If you go out with someone and they're not asking you questions and you're not having an equal conversation, that is a red flag that is never going to become a white flag.
flag. So, you know, I make a lot of jokes, but I absolutely know that. And you give them the benefit
of the doubt for the first few minutes because people are nervous. Do you say first few minutes or
first few dates? No, minutes. Susan said no hurry. That's it. No, I definitely agree with what you're
saying. Both of you are saying. The key thing here is to find a happy medium. And of course,
if no one is someone is not talking or or communicating you know that's a red flag i i agree
wholeheartedly with that i feel like at this stage of the game i feel like at this stage of the
game your assessment can be so quick because we've lived long enough to to to you know snuff out the
nonsense so that makes it easier you don't have to waste your time with a knuckle dragger you know what
I mean.
So have you met anyone that has these things that you're looking for or some of them,
some of the qualities that you like?
Yeah, I know.
Not yet.
Not yet.
All right.
Well, she hasn't, but I want to talk about Joan for a minute.
We know she's going to be the golden bachelorette.
And we're all excited.
We're so excited.
So come on.
Tell us, what do you think about her being the golden bachelorette?
I think it's awesome.
I love Joan.
First of all, she's very beautiful woman.
We all are.
And she's a beautiful woman who does not allow her beauty to impact who she is.
And I feel like a lot, most of us in the house were like that.
We did not allow our gifts to overshadow who we were.
And I feel like Joan O'B is very even keel.
And she has a, her brain is, you know, good.
Like, she'll make her assessments is spot on.
She's a lot of fun.
And I feel like Joan has great discernment in this process.
I wish her all the best.
I know she's going to be excellent in the role.
And I don't, Joan has three children, I believe.
Four. I think she has four.
Four children and grandchildren.
So she's not going to be up for the shenanigans.
Do you have any advice for the bachelors that are going on her show?
What would you tell them if they asked you for advice?
I would tell them to be their authentic self,
to take their time in how they present to her.
be honest,
forthright,
and they get to do a little research
and find out what is it that she's looking for.
I'm sure it's out there.
All our information is out there.
So they get to do research,
figure out what she wants,
and don't come half step in
because that's our sister.
And we will come if we try to play a trick on her.
We are not.
Make her laugh a little bit.
Make her laugh and have her.
and have a good time.
Exactly.
All right.
So wait, I have a question, Natasha.
Everyone, your earrings, your comments on chairs is infamous.
It goes down in history and the earring.
Oh, she's got on her chair earrings.
Look at that.
Of course.
All right.
Other than chairs at the rose ceremonies, are there any other accommodations for this season
that you'd like to see on the upcoming Golden Bachelorette?
I don't know if men would need chairs.
I definitely know women would need chairs.
And I would actually request that Joan sits in a chair while she makes a decision.
How about a throne?
How about a throne with a crown?
Or at least cushion those wooden things that you stand on.
Yeah.
I would tell these guys to really just be friends.
I mean, I think that that is so, I know it's competitive.
Men are way more competitive than women.
I feel like as a coach, they definitely should.
We have been given advice forever.
And of course, that goes without saying.
So let's go back to people Midlife Golden who feel discouraged in the dating scene.
Like some people aren't comfortable with dating apps.
And how do you feel about that?
Or what advice would you?
I talked about that a couple of weeks ago on a show.
I would basically say to them,
Don't give up.
You still have a lot of life to live.
Amen.
You got to kiss a lot of frogs before you get your prints.
And in our life, right?
In our life, we go on.
We try, try, and try again.
And that one time or twice that happened,
find a way.
If dating apps don't work for you,
then find a way to interact.
There's so many ways you can learn a language, start a new hobby, you can take a class.
All these places, you'll meet people in your day traffic to start dating.
It doesn't have to be dating oriented.
It could be you putting yourself in different environment or joint organizations where you get a chance to meet people, even organizations from your past working experience or career.
Right.
Keep adding. I know it's discouraging. And it's okay. We can discourage a lot, but it doesn't mean we get to sit down and stop living, you know.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the O.K.
Storytime Podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Podcasts Politics.
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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries
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about the state of the Democratic Party.
What do Republicans say to you privately
that they won't say publicly?
Many of them are in fear
of their political lives, and that's been
part of the challenge. But we continue to
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want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can
keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a
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What about the self-love that how everybody starts seeing the image that they don't want to
see in their older years, golden years, their bodies change, their lives changed,
their work changes, or they're very tired and they don't go out.
Like, have you been on my Instagram page?
Well, you know, this is part of the, here's what I have to say, and I'll say it very quickly.
This is a long, big topic.
I feel that from birth to about 39, we're taught and we understand that there's a lot of losses and grieving through that part, right?
We grieve toddlerhood to childhood to teens, to tweens, to adulthood.
We know about pregnancy.
We know about marriage.
We know about all of that.
Nobody tells us about what's happening after you hit 40.
And because a lot of us don't understand or know about menopause, perimenopause,
empty nesting, possibly divorce, career changes, parenting, caretaking, all that stuff.
No one talks about it.
I'm getting depressed listening to this.
You really shouldn't.
You really shouldn't.
Natasha, I'm joking.
Because the reality is that this is what happens.
if we were educated about it, we would know that we're not going to keep that slim, trim body,
and it's okay to get a little belly or gain some weight and get used to seeing the hair.
You're going to have these changes.
Imagine if you got pregnant and didn't know your belly was going to get big, how that would freak you out.
If you're educated to know your hair is going to get great, you're going to get this belly, you're going to have these things, it's okay.
You're not going to say things.
So how do we tell them to love themselves again?
I mean, have you, what advice?
It's acceptance.
Acceptance comes in increments, right?
So you must accept a little at a time.
A little at a time.
But don't, Natasha, don't you think also sort of as we age, building self-love means building
and changing some of our habits to adapt to how we are aging.
So it's maybe, as you say, maybe you have to move a little.
more or you have to change what you eat. And it's, you know, passo e pasta, step by step.
You can't make a million changes at one time, but a little change can have a dramatic effect.
Absolutely. And that's the acceptance part. It's like, oh, I notice I'm putting on some pounds.
Let me start exercising or let me change my diet or let me go meet with a nutritionist.
These are small steps of accepting and you're loving yourself in.
the process of people. And it happens. Like, you start saying, I get, like, I'm tired of taking care
everybody else. We as women, mothers, do that. It's time to turn the focus on me. What is it that I get
to do to love myself? Maybe I need to make regular doctor's appointments. Go to the dentist.
Do a facial once a month. Start exercising. Change my email. And it takes. I started exercise.
Susan, how many times did I tell you?
You finally started exercising.
However, I can't change the way I eat yet.
That's fine.
It's one step at a time.
It's one step at a time.
And you did change, Susan.
You gave up chips.
So I did.
I gave up chips for lent.
Yes.
All right.
Well, Natasha, I'm a little afraid to ask us, but we're going to close out this part of our lovely time with you.
Uh-oh.
okay Natasha be kind you know I come across as brash but really I can break down in tears at a moment's notice
what's your dating advice for us don't hold back come on what is it give it oh oh here I'm saying
you both have a great sense of humor keep that up I would say to take your time hold back fall back
And really go on chat deep and find out 10 questions that you can ask that will support you in dating to get to know someone and that will allow you to put that question out there and then get the flood of information you get to have so that you can make a choice.
But you both are very loving and kind women.
I know I was in the room with you all.
and you both have big hearts as you have a big you have big comedy big comedy big fun you both love to have fun and I think you have everything you need we get to have men I say we including me who are not intimidated by women who are so self-assured as we are and you know they always say they want a woman that's self-sufficient that self you know and they really don't I don't
think. I don't think they know what that means. When you're a strong, independent woman,
men, so I want an independent woman. And we are independent. We take care of ourselves. We're doing
our own lives. And we want to share it with someone. And that's intimidating to a lot of men.
We just got to find the ones it's not. At the same time, we've been doing this so long.
It's not only them, we have to learn to fall back. We have to learn to have
some allowing in the process.
We have to learn not to be so stuck in our ways where we begin to allow them to be who
they are and not want them to conform to our way.
That was my problem.
I would conform to all their ways.
And then six months in, I'm like,
communication is key.
That's our middle word.
So we have a question from one of our fans.
and they'd like some advice with all of us.
And this one is from Safina.
She's 71 and she's from Atlanta.
I love the Golden Hour podcast.
Thank you.
Finally, a podcast from some people I can relate to.
I thought I'd write in because I've been struggling with my self-confidence lately.
And it's holding me back from dating.
When I see pictures of myself from 20s, 30s, 40s, I look so beautiful.
When I look in the mirror now, I fear my best days are behind me, and it's been holding me back from putting myself out there.
I never imagined being single at this age, and I wish the younger version of me could be what my potential suitors were seeing.
I really want to meet someone, but all the men my age and older are dating much younger women, and I'm beginning to feel discouraged.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
And if you have any advice for me, love you ladies.
Aw, Safina, thanks for writing in.
And you know what?
We all look back at our pictures.
I was hot once upon a time.
What do you think, Natasha?
Come on.
What do you think for Safina?
Give her some gold here.
Confidence has nothing to do with your, with what you look like or what you wear.
Confidence is an inside job like happiness, like love, like joy.
And she gets to look at who she's become over these years.
And she still is that young version of herself and bring that forward.
Bring the youthful energy of who she is to the foreground and live in that space.
And stop worrying about what people think and worrying about who she was.
Don't look in the mirror today.
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
She's still beautiful. She's still beautiful.
She's just comparing herself.
In comparison will kill you.
Yes.
But you know what I'm sitting here looking at this and thinking, Safina, you have matured.
You, I don't want to be my younger self.
I have gained so much knowledge and experience and have had the highest of highs.
I've had the best love.
I've suffered the greatest losses.
All of those things have made me who I am today.
Right. That's who I want someone to fall in love with, not some picture of me when, you know, I was 20 or 25.
So, Safina, I think you need to rethink what it is you're looking for and what you think men are looking for.
Because you don't want a guy. You don't want a guy that's looking for a 20 year old.
Safina, there's one thing you said that I'm going to disagree with. Your best days are behind you. Oh, no, they're not.
sweetie this is the best chapter ever go out be you be you enjoy you and someone else will too
Natasha do you think it takes a lot of courage I mean that's the thing I think people are
age sometimes they think we think we're the only ones dealing with us and I think you know when
you were talking earlier about going out and going to you know different venues to meet people
I think we all need to remember right that we're all scared we're all in that
same boat. So it's just being you and do you agree with that or not? I agree. Practice makes
perfect. The more you go out, the more you get to know people and go into different venues for
dating or getting to know people, it becomes easier. It's when you rarely do it and you don't
move. It's awkward. It's weird. It's awkward. You are socially awkward. And I know it's taken me years
to be able to step into new environments confidently.
However, you must do it.
I notice the more I go out, the more I'm circulating, the easier it becomes.
Or take a trip by yourself.
Take a little trip by yourself.
It doesn't have to be long.
It doesn't even have to be far.
Just go be with yourself.
You never know who you're going to meet.
And that's okay if you didn't meet anybody.
You did you.
Sit right down and see what is she want.
Like sit down and write on the paper.
She may not even know who she's looking for because she hasn't even evaluated.
What am I looking for?
The question you all asked me, what am I looking for in a partner right now?
What are my pros and what are my cons?
And if you have a long list of negatives and not enough positives, you got a lot of work to do.
Natasha, you are absolutely fabulous and you're spot on.
Thank you so much for coming and talking with us today.
addition out some great advice.
Ladies and gentlemen, that does it for today's episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour.
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We have loved catching up with you, Natasha.
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