Bachelor Happy Hour - Medium King, Large Heart with Jonathon! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are sitting down with Jonathon from Jenn's season of “The Bachelorette”! The future “Paradise” star is here to dish out advice to our listeners and give our hosts all his updates! We kick off today’s episode with the big question: What’s the deal with him and Jenn? Then, we get into the topic of the day: Is it ever okay to lie in a relationship? And, of course, we get into your questions! Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics

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Bachelornation.com slash golden hour. And we have some great questions today and a very, very handsome special guest that I am going to quiz. Yeah, well, get in line because I got them first. Today, we have fan favorite from Jen's season. of the bachelor and future Bachelor in Paradise star, who's going to be dating me in paradise, Jonathan Johnson is here. Oh, we're going to have a great time.

Hi, Jonathan. Thanks for joining us. We are so excited. You are too cute for words. You really are. You are absolutely adorable. I mean, there's, I have so many questions, but can I just jump in with the first one?

You are 28, correct? Yes. Okay. And you're a, I want to talk about lacrosse. You're a lacrosse player, is that correct? What position did you play? Or do you play? I played close defense.

Say it again, close defense? Yeah. Okay, so my son played long stick D. Same. Okay, that's close, long stick D. Same thing. I was going to say, I had a feeling they were the same. And he now refs, he's like a state ref in Texas.

Do you still play? Do you ref? What do you do? No. I mean, I have a whole lacrosse set up in my backyard. So me and my roommates, we all played in college, and we'll just go back out there throughout the day. Where did you play?

I played at a school called Sierra Nevada University in Lake Tahoe. Was it in the Sierra Nevada's? In Lake Tahoe? Yeah. So it's just a small club school, like nothing crazy. But I just wanted because I love the game and wanted to have fun. And it was where I could snowboard still and just have a good time. It's a great game.

Is it not? It's the best. So I'm going to ask you, Jonathan, and see if you know the answer to this question, And what is the national sport of Canada? Do you know? Probably hockey? I would guess holly. Jonathan?

What sport are we talking about? La Crosse? See, I figured it was a big question because you brought it up. Yeah, you made it. I was trying to throw you an easy pitch there, Jonathan. She's trying to trip you up. No, I have a hard time trusting. You know, I know you guys are going to mess with me a little bit.

I didn't want to jump on the easy cheat. We are not going to mess with you one little bit. We're going to be with you in paradise. Why would we mess with you on this? Yeah, don't you think we should come? I hope so. We would have a damn good time. A ball.

We would have a ball. But wait, before we get into all of it, I am so curious. You know, the Internet is the Internet is the Internet. And everybody thought she ran to you and used word dating. the whole nine you have your opportunity now to tell us like it is or not what do you say i didn't hear you speak up young man what do you want to know everything a to z do you date are you dating no uh but we do spend a lot of time together we we get along great she did not come running back I know.

I wasn't believing everything. If I were your age, I would have done it. You know, I don't have Jen's hair. I don't have her body, but those are just details. I'm more of a personality guy anyways. You are? Oh, big time. Oh, Susan, maybe it's not too late.

Where's your father? Oh, my God. My dad's very quiet guy. He lives in Kansas City, but he's more soft-spoken, handsome guy. Is he single? Very single, yeah. Susan. Oh, Kathy, there's a shot for us.

We're going to get serious now, okay? And then we'll come back to this too, of course. All right. Let's get to the topic of the day. Go ahead, Susan. Do you think it's ever okay to keep secrets from your partner? And if so, when is it time you think it's okay to keep those secrets? Only were very minimal things.

I think, okay, let's be very specific. specific here. Okay. She gets a new dress that she has fired up on. You don't like it, but she feels incredible. How do I look in this? You look smashing. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Your father trained you well. You are well trained, Jonathan. However. Minimal thing doesn't affect their emotion or their stay in mind. Then all right. I'm going to

give you some examples. Like, if you're pleading a crush and mean things you might want to say during a fight. If a friend or family member doesn't like them, would you keep those things from them? So what do you say? Like if you get into a sibling fight? No, no, no. Let's say your brother don't like the girl that you're with.

Are you going to tell the girl? Look, my brother's not digging you. So no, because my brother's together. Exactly. like it doesn't matter oh my family doesn't like you what is that that doesn't know what would you do that we're together are you what about if you what about if you like had a crush on a girl like just a fleeting crush you know nothing are you going to tell her that you've like i got to tell you i have had this little crush but i'm kind of over it now you're going to tell her i am very direct um anytime i approach women or if i have a crush on somebody

i let them know almost immediately i don't there's no reason to hold back in life i wait you tell the person you have a crush on them? 100%. Why don't I do that? Because there's not enough time in the day for you to tell all the people that you have. It's not behind the confidence of when a woman comes up to a man and says, I have a crush on you. That it gets me every time. Like, I don't know what it is.

Wait, if a woman comes up to you and says, I have a crush on you, you fall for her? I don't fall for her, but I fall for the confidence. And I'm like, well, let's talk. Let's see if there's something here then. Hey, Jonathan. I like you. I have a crush on you. Perfect.

We still have another hour to talk, so let's figure it out. Oh my God, you are fabulous. All right. Kathy, what would you do? About a fleeting crush? No, no. Do you think it's okay to keep secrets? I'm with Jonathan.

I think, you know, it depends on what it is. I would never want to hurt someone's feelings. Yeah. I mean, honestly, my in-laws did not like me very much. because they you know who knows why and I really always hated that my that I knew that I wish you know I hadn't known although so I think it just depends on the circumstance I do I think it depends I'm also Jonathan extremely honest but it gets me into trouble sometimes same but there's a situation I sugar you need to hear the hard truth sometimes too and whether you like it or not

like sometimes people need to know like if a friend of yours is messing up and they can't see it sometimes you got to be the one to be the bearer of bad news and be like you're really effing things up right now and it's not okay susan did that to me today i i do but i sugarcoded and i'm very sweet about it but i do make my point i mean because you love somebody you don't want to have resentment or something so you need to get it out you have to say it like it is i'm a firm believer too if you have an issue with somebody doesn't matter who it is it's not fair to that person to just have animosity towards them and then not know what at all. And you build resentment.

Yeah. Yeah, but wait a minute. As Susan and I've spoken about this, don't you think delivery matters how you say it? 100%. It's like you can't yell at somebody who doesn't speak English. I'm never going to understand why you're angry. So communication is huge. They can't understand where you're coming from and how are you saying it.

It's not going to be received. How you say it is just as important as how it's received. Yes. Yeah. I agree with that. All right. You're good in my book so far. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics.

And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your.

your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Anya Emanzor. And I'm Drew. Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the

podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. All right. So we're going to, we are going to go ask you some questions because, you know, inquiring minds do want to know. As we said before, we cannot wait to see you in paradise because you'll be carrying our luggage for us. But we want to know. Are you hoping that they do a younger and golden paradise together? Did you ever hear that rumor? We just heard that. As soon as I got the first invite after a. until all they're like how the golden ladies came up i was like i don't discriminate i'm i'll have fun and hang out with whoever i don't i like i don't care i love him you're and you know

if you if you get your heartbroken susan and i'll be there to console you well besides hoping that we'll be there who else would you hope to be there yeah i keep getting asked this question part part of my answer is new blood i don't have anybody but it's partially because i haven't seen everybody and like I said I'm a big personality like I can see somebody to be like wow she just dropped dead gorgeous like love her look love the aesthetic of who she is but I'm not going to get somebody if I don't know who they are yet right and that and that kind of carries over into the fact of wait do you mean their personality Jonathan I lost you there you're saying she could be beautiful but you have to see what her personality is before you decide whether to go in is that

what you're saying yeah she could be a 10 out of 10 but if I can't carry a conversation I have the answer it's just not going to work out so can i just tell you i loved your butt with the bandages and the whole line i just want to ask you like your butt hanging out was just so good it was so good i want to know other than it being a schick like did you stay up late at night like how can i impress or like what went through your mind honestly i mean i think i'm just like a creative guy in general and immediately when I was going over ideas that was probably one of the top three or four that came to me almost immediately and then me and my producer kind of built on it and I was like can we make this happen is this possible and we landed on where I came out so you know I'm going to ask

you what are you going to wear if on paradise how are you going to stroll into the beach what are you going to do something new do you say nude new uh-huh what are you going to do I don't know, actually. That's a really, really good point because that one was focused on the fact that Jen is a PA. Yeah, right. So I guess. Why don't you just come in with like a beautiful Italian suit

with skinny leg pants and great shoes? Susan, stop it. Uh-huh. On a beach. I do. I do wear very short shorts. People seem to love that. So can I.

When I came in on our golden patch, season. And the producers, you know, they're asking, uh, what did you think about all the people that came in creatively? Because, you know, somebody came in on a walk or somebody came in a birthday suit. Somebody came in in a wig and whatever. And I looked at him and I said, I came in creatively. I walked. Yeah. That's, that was like, you know, we had a few on our season, but not, not like that. The guys were kind of tame on Jones. Yeah, they were. Yeah. Very, very, very. The other Jonathan covered his face, too. He's so cute.

Oh, he's so cute. He's adorable. But yeah, I think he stole from you, Jonathan number one. I think Jonathan number two took your idea. It was kind of like you could be my dad. We're both light-fined. Yeah. But there's no woman that you wish from any of the seasons that would be there.

Nobody in particular like some fresh new meat. Yes. Nobody in particular yet. Okay. I like it. And I want to go in with an open mind. I don't want to come in there. and be set on one person.

Have something in your head. Or I lose sight and I don't see somebody who's amazing, like right there. And I don't get it because I'm so. That is smart, Jonathan. Okay, so I have a question. I don't know where I read this or maybe you said it on the show. You've obviously received an incredible outpoint of love, you know, from the show. And everyone loves you.

But what I loved is you said I treat every girl the way I would want to see my mother and sister treated. That's when we fell in love, Tom. That's when I fell in love right there because that, the fact that you know that and want to treat a woman that way says that you understand how a woman wants to be treated. And it also says you treat your mother and sister well. I try my best to I've gotten a little bit away from having the time to give to them with all the attention and things that I have going on but outside of that when when I'm with them

you know I like to like to put my phone away I like to sit down and just listen I like to be attentive I like to give them confidence make sure they feel comfortable and a lot of you think that I treat women kind of have come forward too like even if it's a girlfriend I don't care who it is every time a woman gets into my car the door is open. The door is also open when she gets out.

Like little, very little things. If they're cold, my jacket. Jonathan, I have a great, what do you do for a living right now? I guess you're busy with all this, right? I'm a creative director, but like I make ads for companies for social. Okay. I've got a new career for you. I'm serious.

I'm not even joking. You need to open up a business where you teach men civility and good, manners and how not to take if they're going on websites dating websites please do not take pictures of yourself you know naked from the waist up holding a beer in the bathroom in a towel and holding up a dead fish like you could really educate men if they want to find women I wanted to do that job well educate men on how to get on dating sites a hard part for the longest time for me is I think I am like the stereotypical nice hair are people like nice guys finished last and I believed that for the longest time until I became very confident in myself and I realized I can still win and treat women with respect whether it's even in the circumstance I'm just hooking up somebody meet them for one night and you hook up whatever Susan I just learned what hooking up I had to teach you what hook you're not really I didn't think it was all the way is that what you're saying you sleep with somebody have sex I guess there's multiple definitions of it, but that's what I'm talking about.

Thank you. But I think over time, I just learned that, like, you don't have to act like a quote-unquote dick or like a guy that's just like so confident. It's like I'm not suave. I'm not smooth. And I make people feel comfortable. Okay. Like they deserve to be it no matter the circumstance. Are you taking a woman home to meet mama when you hook up with her one night?

Is that the woman you're taking home to meet your mother? No. No. There you go. I also have like a very friendly relationship with my mom too where I would introduce anybody to my mom. You know what I'm asking. I do know what you're asking.

But also, I don't judge based on that. Some people just to them it's fun and you have a connection to somebody and it happens to be more than just emotional. Maybe it's just physical that night too. You could connect emotionally to the depth that you do physically too. And I think that if that's where it leads,

that's where it leads. There's no right or wrong in that situation to me, I don't think. I think everybody. Susan looks like she's in shock. That's what I'm hoping for. Not only physically, but emotionally as well. Oh, yeah. And that's the thing, too, is like it won't happen. Like, you can't just hook up to somebody, I guess for me, unless that emotional connection is also there as well. Have you hooked up with a woman for one night that you were like, this is, you know, she's attractive. Let's just go to bed together and have fun. And the next day she thinks you're about to ask her

to get married. Has that ever happened where a woman jumps right in? You know what I'm joking. Honestly, no. Like, I'm not one to just like hook up a bunch. It's just not my energy or anything anymore. But it does happen. Like when you do treat people

with respect and kindness, like I like to, I think in today's modern world where people and people men aren't as respectful as they should be, they think that is this guy wants to be with me. And it could get you in trouble if you don't handle it in the right way. With being honest and upfront with that person

and with respect, yes. I have a big question. So you're like this king of median kings. Can you tell me what that is? Wait, I have to tell you, Susan, I try to research. What the hell does that mean? You know what kept coming up on the internet? Mattresses. And how do we mean?

make medium king's main screen. What the hell is a medium king? What is it? Talk to us. Before I went on the show, right, it was an ongoing joke with a friend of mine that I was not a short king. I was in a tall king or a tall guy. I was medium.

I was perfectly average. How tall are you? 5.11. Okay. That's average? I think 5.9 is actually the average, but medium kings are the average. 5-9 to 5-11 somewhere in that room and it became an ongoing joke and I just became like a

self-proclaimed medium king so by the time I got on the show I see all the monstrosities that they bring on to the bachelor's right and I'm like what the hell am I doing here you can hold your own at 511 because we had a comedy show in Australia I made did a whole bit about being a medium king and I think people kind of ate it up so that went on Jen and all the guys knew me as a medium King. The medium king. They would just tell me that throughout the season and we just had to put it. Yeah, there was the blooper where Jen called me a medium king and then now the public

knew about it and we just kind of ran. That's what it's about. I didn't get it. I didn't get either. I swear I tried to figure it out. So are we medium queens? How tall are you? Five six.

I'm five eight. I mean, technically yes, but it's hard with women because I feel like you're either just like when you look of women, you're like, she's either just tall or she's average. She's not. I mean, like, for me, I think a woman when she's like anywhere from five foot to five, nine, it's just like average height. I don't know. I think I was, well, I shrunk too.

I've shrunk. I don't know. No, I was, I was taller, but you get to my age and you start losing inches. It sucks. I don't put women in baskets, even based on height. That's just, that's a disaster for me. and I will not. So what do you attract it to, like, what's your, do you have a certain, like, oh,

I'm a big person. A legs, okay. I'm very much, like, into fitness and taking care of yourself. All right. I have a question. Do you love being single and what's the best part of it right now? Or is there a least favorite thing about being single? Ooh.

I mean, you're going on these shows to find love, correct? Yeah, yeah. I love the freedom of being. single, but I would also love more than anything to find somebody that is so independent but also confident in us that I still get to almost live that free lifestyle as far as like making like almost free decisions that she supports. So that mindset of being able to live my life the way I want to live it still exists, but I have somebody who's in it, in it, but like doing the same things themselves. So we had this confidence on one another where we get to bounce off each other and

be like, oh my God, you get to go do that. Have so much fun doing that. I'm going to go do this too. And when we have time, we're going to come together and we're going to share this amazing love and life together. So I think it's a, it's a balance where I want somebody who wants to do the same things I do and continue to take advantage of life. Some women are more needy of your time, I think. And they don't have enough on their own. Enough on their own. And that's why it was. become a problem then for you to do your thing without, yeah, I get it. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.

It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemail Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.

What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years.

But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom. And listen now. All right.

So quickly, just before we move into our next thing, because we're going to answer some fan questions, and you're going to help give advice. Hopefully. Do you have advice for people? Because you seem like a really positive, upbeat guy. But how do you, what advice do you give for staying positive when others around you, you know, have found love and you're still dating?

I realize you like the freedom, but. What advice? How do you stay positive? I don't know if it's delusion. I'm a positive person, too. I thought you were going to say I'm delusionary too, Susan. I think if you truly believe in success and manifestation of any kind that your time will come. I know my success financially and career-driven, I just know it's going to work. out. And I'm like, my time will come. I'm just staying on this path. And I feel that same way

about love. I have friends that are married, multiple friends that are married and friends that have kids. And I'm going to baby shower next Sunday. And these are like best friends from childhood. And not a single part of me has envy. And it's like, God, I wish I was there right now. I wish I was here for this for that. I know my time has come because I wouldn't have had the growth that I've had part of this amazing opportunity if I was already in a relationship. So now I get to enjoy this and appreciate that it came my way. It's everything in its time, right? Everything in its time.

Exactly. All right. Well, that's a great answer because I think everything will come. I think you're right. And believe that it's really believe it. I am a dreamer and I believe it's coming. All right, you two dreamers. We're moving on here.

We're going to go through some questions and Jonathan, you're going to give advice. The first one is from Stefan or Stephen, but I'm going with Stefan because that's how it's spelled. He's 38 from Durham, North Carolina. Go Blue Devils, Duke. Greetings, Susan and Kathy. I am writing in because my mom loves you two

and I am seeing her struggling with something. I'm a mama's boy and I need to try to help so I thought that maybe she will listen to you guys if I play this back for her. She's been dating someone for the past six months who I just don't think treats her well at all. For context, my dad passed away eight years ago and he was a wonderful guy and treated her like the queen she is. So now I have very high standards for the kind of guy who should date her and she thinks it's just because I don't want her to move on for my dad.

That's not the case. I really do want her to be happy, but this guy is just a jerk. He expects her to pay for dates, leaves her hanging about plans for days on end and always cancels on her last minute, like when she's already ready for. for a date. It's not crossed a dangerous line or anything like that, thankfully. It's just that he's not a good guy and I hate to see my mom sat all the time when she should be putting herself

out there to meet someone better. What do you think this mama's boy should do? Feel free to share advice both for me and for her. I'm going to make her listen to this. Thank you ladies and Jonathan. I love this guy for

writing this. Yeah, I do too. What do you think? this is tough because this is a situation i sit in actually so i have a single mom she's 55 and i've never seen her married since i've been born so does she date jonathan she yes and no um i don't really i don't know i haven't sat down i haven't lived at home in a while like 10 years so i haven't really gotten the chance like sit down and really get into this topic with her but for me when I do see her date, I focus on her happiness in the situation. So whether I love the guy or not, I ask her how she feels about it. Is she happy?

Is she comfortable? Does she feel safe and secure? If all those answers are yes, then you mind your business. It's not up to me. I'm not dating him. I don't have the end-all be-all decision in that. But if one of those main points doesn't check out, she's not happy. she doesn't feel safe and she doesn't feel secure in it.

I'm like the main advocate for being like, hey, we need you to really think about it because I can't tell, I've learned this every time. You can't tell somebody, especially a woman that's set her ways at this point, like that she's doing things wrong, you know? So trying to make sure they take a chance to reflect on the relationship and hopefully know better and what they deserve. And that's all I can do and be her support system. But you hit on it, Jonathan.

Stefan, your mom, she may be perfectly happy with this. And it's up to you to respect your mom, love her. But at the end of the day, if I don't hear her complaining. I hear him saying that he's not good enough for her. I don't hear him saying that his mother is miserable. Yeah. Well, you know what? If he's witnessing his mother being sad and he's canceling dates

after she already got ready, why wouldn't you say something? This is true, too. Oh, I would. He's not worth it, Mom. But he says, I hate to see my mom sad all the time, but I don't hear that the mom is communicating with him, you know, I can't do any better than this or, you know, anything that she's not verbalizing anything in this letter. So, Stefan, I think you need to look carefully, clearly the guy is not up to your standards,

but unfortunately he may be what she's happy with. He may be good enough. She may be happy to settle. That's a terrible word. She should not settle ever. I agree. If somebody cancels that many times it makes me sad and expects her to pay for the dates and leaves are hanging for days on end and then canceled.

Excuse me, what? You wouldn't wait for your son. to say these things? No, not wait for. I'm saying she should. But she's not. Well, then he should. Bring it to her attention.

Yeah, you can only do so much for somebody. There's only a certain extent in which you can make things happen. People have to believe themselves in order to make a change. Exactly. And that's really tough. So you have to help guide them and support them in that correct decision. That's sad. I wouldn't want to stand by and watch it.

But Stefan, thank you. And I'm glad you love your. mom so much talk some sense into her okay this next one's from chloe and she is 43 from waterloo ontario hey ladies i love the pod and i'm hoping for some words of encouragement right now all of my best friends are either having or have had babies slash families and i'm feeling so much jealousy and sadness being in my early 40s this has been the norm for a while But now it's all my closest friends. And I feel like I'm getting to a point where it may be too late for me by the time I meet someone.

I literally had a best friend and my cousin tells me this week that they're pregnant. I am truly beyond happy for my friend and don't want to bring them down, but I'm struggling emotionally. When my best friend told me I actually cried about it for the rest of the night, which made me feel like a horrible person. Any advice on how to try to be happy for them while also feeling sad for myself and how to set boundaries with them without sounding like I am not wanting to be a part of their pregnancy or their kids' lives?

I appreciate you guys so much. Oh, that breaks my heart. It's not too late, first of all. Second of all, of course you're going to feel sad because that's something that you want it. You are absolutely normal. I don't think there's anything at all wrong with you. And you will be a part of your friend's baby's lives.

You just want it for yourself. I don't know. What do you think, guys? Well, I will just quickly add that my daughter had her first baby and several of her friends are in their late 30s and early 40s. And they verbalize exactly this. You know, they're happy, but they feel like the window is closing for them. And, you know, realistically, it may be closing for them, not necessarily marriage, but having children.

And I think sometimes it's like Jonathan, you said, you just have to sort of live your life and celebrate the time that you are in in your life. And if you celebrate that, then other opportunities come your way. And, you know, I think that she can be friends and should support them and love them. But it's okay to feel sad. But also realize that other incredible opportunities may be coming your way. Yeah. I think for me, this is a really hard one to answer, you know, especially as a man. You know, it's really hard to look at that and not be like, well, you shouldn't let other people's successes bring you down.

That feels like a sort of like envy where it's like you work. people like you shouldn't be matter but it's not that easy you know i think there's a lot of societal pressure and physical pressure even to to have kids at a certain age and you have a biological clock that you're abiding by um so for me it's just like i guess from from a guy's perspective it's more just keep your head up and if that's something you really really want and if it's you want it so bad that you don't care that you have a partner you can there's There's other forms of making that happen for yourself. So it's a tough one.

That is. I wish her the absolute best. And I hope she kind of comes to a conclusion on what she wants. Because if she wants a family with a person, maybe she waits to find the person and then adopts. Yeah. Or you could just go get pregnant. If it's just a baby, you can get pregnant. That's what I meant when I said being open to other opportunities.

adoption or surrogacy or to be a mother she could go to a fertility clinic and just be a mother and find somebody later down down the right and the right person will be perfectly okay with that yeah i know i do feel for and like i said it's okay to feel a little bad for yourself because you are a little envious of that you know it's normal a normal human emotion and it's okay it is i got a little sad on that one well but you know what jonathan you were awesome I love your words of wisdom here. You seem much more mature than you actually, your age. You got a good head on your shoulders.

I have to say, though, Susan, I think a lot of the people that we have interviewed from Bachelor Nation, I think they all learn something. Chronologically, you guys are obviously from where we sit. You know, you're really young. But you guys, you know, we've done so many interviews at this point of Bachelor Nation people. And you all have such wonderful. perspective and joyful lives. And even you've had some hard things, you really have this

upbeat attitude of life is good. And I'm so excited about where it's taking me. And I for one, thank you for, you know, sharing that happiness with us. Yes, thank you. And hopefully we'll be with you on Paradise. I would hope so. And going on with the positivity too, like with the platform that I've been given. Right. People do, apparently, yeah, gifted and the fact that people are giving me so much love, all I want to do is return that in spades. And I hope that people take a little positivity and peace of mind from knowing like,

that's what Kathy and I do every single day. I was just going to say, Susan and I, the thing that we try to do is give people about positivity, but also at our age, realize you're not invisible. Life is not over. Get up, move. The best chapter. because this is the last and best chapter of our lives. So it's the same kind of thing, just at our age.

It looks a little different. Well, listen, we can't wait to see you again, Jonathan. Hopefully it's Bachelor in Paradise, but who knows? Be sure to follow us, though, on Bachelor Happy Hour, because we do have new episodes coming out every week. And if you liked what we did today with Jonathan and our chats with him, you're going to love what's coming up next. Yeah.

Please just keep sending us these questions because we'll do as much. much as we can to give you some advice, whether it's good advice or not. And you just have to go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour or hit us up on social at bachelor happy hour. Listen to bachelor happy hours golden hour on the iHeart radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks so much, Jonathan. Everyone, have a great week. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

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