Bachelor Happy Hour - Memories & Makeups with Theresa | Golden Hour

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Today on Golden Hour, we're sitting down with Theresa from the first season of The Golden Bachelor! Theresa is here reuniting with our hosts for a very fun girl chat. We kick things off with Theresa's updates; from dating to life in the fast lane, we get into it all! Then, we get into her thoughts on Paradise, her friendship Leslie, and why she ultimately chose to not go on the show. We also chat about Gerry, his upcoming book, and what she thinks about new Golden Bachelor Mel Owens! Plus, her and Kathy get very candid about their past drama and where they both stand today. Tune in now to hear all this and more, including some very insightful advice from Theresa, and make sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you were elected to defend your constituents and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. As usual, we're so excited to be back. We are so excited to be back. And how have you been doing, Susan? Good. Yes, yes, I am. Good, good, good. Okay, well, be sure to check out our latest episode.

We've been having so much fun, answer your questions, and chatting with you with all your Bachelor Nation faves. And today, I'm so excited. We have a very special guest. Please welcome from our season of Golden Bachelor, Teresa. Hi, Teresa. Hi, Susan. Hi, Kathy.

So nice to do you. Well, we have so much that we want to dive into today. So let's get things started. First of all, Tresa, you look absolutely gorgeous. You do. It's definitely your color. Yes. You're so nice. You guys are so beautiful.

And I love it. You're doing the hair the way I suggested. I love. Don't think I didn't notice. I think I didn't listen. It looks. You look great. Okay, so, Trisa, we've got to know. I haven't seen you in a bit.

just a wink here but what have you been up to what's new in your life tell us oh my gosh it's so much you know when i got off the show i went back to my normal life with my beautiful family and my grandsons and and then just recently though i have had a whirlwind july and june so while you and leslie were all filming the show paradise i reached out to susan i said why don't we get together you know let's do it and he had a great time i couldn't do it in until June 21st. It was an amazing weekend. We had such a wonderful fun. I did. Yeah, Susan was able to take advantage of my king size bed. And the air condition. I sort of got. I've lived for 14 years with no air condition.

Oh my God. Wait a minute. Susan, you did without air condition? No, no, no. You didn't hear her. I got to take advantage of the king size bed and the air condition. I even made Teresa film me laying on. the king's-sized bed and sent it to Gary. It was so funny. I'm going to have to move to the East Coast, Teresa, so I can come and sleep in that bed. Yes, absolutely. Okay, so we heard that maybe you're in a relationship.

No, I'm not. I'm not. There was something, but it wasn't for me, so I'm not. And actually, right now, I'm not really actively looking. If it happens, it happens. I'm very at peace with my life. I'm happier now than I've ever been. And I don't think I have to tell you girls how wonderful it's been,

how much this show enriched our lives. Just for people stopping us in the street, just the community we get on Instagram. And so I know it's just so it's been so fulfilling that way. So yes, I'm not actively looking. And, Teresa, wouldn't you say things are different that you look for in a relationship now at this? age than 25 years ago.

Absolutely. I mean, first of all, 25 years ago, you're looking to start a family. You're young and you have different goals in mind. Now we're so much more at peace and at ease with ourselves and we really want to enjoy life. We want to have fun. We know the value of having fun because we don't know when our last day is. Well, and Teresa, I know how close you are with your daughter and your grandkids. kids and and I'm the same way. Susan, I've talked a lot. I don't know about you, but don't you

just love having friends and having girlfriends to do things with and your daughter and your grandkids? I mean, I actually, you know, love that. And you, as you know, I ruined with Leslie in Paradise. Yes. And we sort of rekindled our friendship and I know how close you guys are. I mean, don't you sort of enjoy that time with friends? Can you just go up? to see her. Yes. I just want to see her. So I will say this, that Leslie felt the same way about you, Kathy. She said it was wonderful, grooming with you and rekindling your friendship. And so I did want to say that I had a whirlwind time because after Susan left, then I went to visit my son in South Carolina. And then I went to visit Leslie in Minneapolis. And then I had Peggy at my house.

So it's been nonstop. I'm so tired because I got home last Thursday at 4 o'clock in the morning and I still I haven't caught up with my sleep. No, but he's complaining. Right. Well, you look great. If this is you tired, Teresa, you do it well, because you look really pretty. No, but going, thank you. But going, so do you.

And going back to, you know, girlfriends, yes, tonight I'm going right from work. I'm going to go home, put on a pickleball outfit, then I'm going on the dinner with my friends. So, and then I've been invited to go see Mom and Me on Broadway, I'm going with another friend. So, yes. I was too. I can't go. You weren't you didn't go. Wait, have you played golf lately?

No, because I've been away. So I just reached out to all my golf girlfriends, and I said, okay, I'm ready. I'm back, and I'm back playing pickleball. I'm going to play outdoor pickleball with someone else on Saturday. So I feel like I have a very full life. Yes, yes. Wait, wait, Teresa, have you taken up pickleball seriously since the shelf? No, no, I wish I could say I had, but I take a lesson and then I don't play, and so it's sporadic.

So I just need to keep out it and be consistent with it. You know what? If you're having fun, that's all the numbers. What do you like better, golf or pickleball? Yeah, that's a really good question. I'm going to take golf. I have to say golf. Well, Teresa, you've got to come to Austin and we'll all play golf together.

I do. I want to do that. That would be amazing. Yes, I love that. It's a little hot right now. What do you think so far about Paradise? Oh, my gosh. I love it so much.

It's so good. There's so many things to talk about you, Paradise. when you talk about the young people and you talk about the old people. And I will say, well, excuse me. The golden people. What did you just call us, Teresa? The most beautiful people.

Thank you, Teresa. I do want to say, well, I'm proud of every one of you who were on the show. You're doing a tremendous job. But I do want to say that the first episode, and I don't know if you noticed this, that they seem to trivialize you guys coming on saying,

oh aren't you cute and look at them in their cute outfits and I was a little bit taken aback by that but the next episode they redeemed themselves and it just seemed like there was much camaraderie amongst the groups and it's just really interesting seeing and Kathy well what you've done that's really funny you have some really good lines some of your life is so funny

well thank you know me Teresa I zip it was just the beginning of my one-liners but I have to say I think you're right Teresa I think people, well, first of all, I want to know, did you, why didn't you come to Paradise? Can I ask that? Yeah, so at first I was really so excited, and then I realized that the reason I was so excited is because I wanted the reunion with all the women,

and I didn't know exactly who was going to be on. But then I looked at the men, and I didn't see a match for myself. So I didn't want to go on and not be true to myself and maybe take the attention away from someone else or not. And I thought, let me just sit back. and enjoy others, you guys being up. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. That's fair.

I mean, I felt the same way, too, when Gary, that was Freudian, when Keith said on the show, he had no romantic interest in me, and we had talked about that, but I, wouldn't you all agree that at our age, having close friendships with guys and with women and our children, all of that is just as important as having a romantic. the connection you know you're right so after i'm seeing it i probably would have gone on if i thought of it that way that we could have just formed a friendship then absolutely i would have gone on so why would you think of it like like that because paradise is about hooking up and being falling in love with somebody just like our show right so that's what i thought it was and i thought

there was someone had a pressure to be in a relationship but if yes and so but if i could have thought of that way, let's just be friends, then yes, I would have gone, absolutely. I mean, I went, just to be clear, I went, Teresa, hoping that. Define love. To find love. But then when I got there and I realized, no, this really is just friendship. And then I just started thinking how important, you know, friendship is with women. And that's what I love about the goldens from our show.

We've all, I wish we got to see each other more. I still think, Susan, and I'm putting you in charge. Or you, Teresa, you're really good. We need to have a big reunion with everyone. I agree. Maybe we don't have to invite Gary. Speaking of which, we want to hear about this book. What do you think about the book coming out, Tris?

Oh, she's anxious to see what he's going to say in the book. He's only going to say nice things about you. He actually asked him. He said, so what are you going to say in the book? And he said, oh, well, you know, I wanted to contact that. say anything so yeah it's kind of wait can i share something when he sent a text that his book is coming out this fall i think november uh it's going to go fast so reserve yours now and nancy text them and said well gary i think it would be lovely if you gave all of us golden's a copy and he didn't

respond so gary you're listening and then teresa i think you know that gary dated christina from our show for a while. Now I know that. I mean, a while ago, I'm actually the one who suggested he go out with Christina. So did Susan, so did I, so did I, so were all on the same page. I said, so they went out for, they did. They went out for like six months. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And he, um, let her read part of the book. And yeah, he did. And, yeah. And I said, he better said nice things about all of us. And so who knows? I better write it real quickly.

Okay, I got to know. Teresa, if we get a book, will you autograph it for us? I will, and I'll give you a copy. We have a free copy. What about your thoughts on Mel, the next golden bachelor? Oh, it's really funny. So when that podcast first came out, I actually created a video in response to him, and I never put it up, but it was very sarcastic.

And it was, you know, I know, I hear that you really only want to date women in there is 45 to 60. And I'm not blame you because we're all old and decrepit. And we can't see everybody's in. Do you think he meant it though, Teresa? I think what he, you know, honestly, look at all the men who were on Jones season, all with younger women. I think it's the way of the world. So I think that what Mel was doing was some type of prejudice. He was prejudging a woman of that age

and just discounting every one of them as though they would not be a viable partner for him. I know that he will most likely apologize, say that he was wrong. Look at these women because they're all gorgeous. He's going to have to say it. He doesn't have a choice. He can't go on this show and continue without acknowledging what he did.

There's no way he can do that. What would your advice be for the women? What would your advice be for the women on the day? I would be really tough on them. It would be so tough. And I would, you know, I would say, hey, maybe I don't even want you. Like, you have to prove yourself to me. Like, why they should just be themselves.

And I'm sure they are lovely, beautiful, gorgeous, accomplished women. And he will just see them for who they are and see how wonderful they are. So what would they do? Yeah, it can't be that he's the one that's only judging them. They have the right to decide whether or not they should be there. But seriously, Tracy, if you were one of the women on the show and you're beautiful and you don't look your age, you could have been one of the women. What would you have said to him? I would say it's so nice to meet you.

And what you said was very offensive and very, and you have to acknowledge how you were very narrow-minded. And I really would like you to acknowledge it and to, you know, apologize. But would you believe him if you were one of them? apologized? Yeah. Yeah. No, no, not would you believe there's apology, but would you believe that he could really be interested in? Because, like I said, you're a, you know, a beautiful woman.

Yes, he has, right, he has apologized. But would I accept, yes, I would, I would, I take everyone in face value, and I don't like to second guess anyone. And if they're telling me that they apologize, and I will accept that. And I will believe them. And I will, I like to only believe the good in everyone. So, yeah. Absolutely. Give a chance.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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kathy was able to do it it just wasn't me and has your view on love and relationships changed since then the way you look at it how so no absolutely i you know before i went on the show i did date a lot i was on the dating apps mainly matched and i i will tell you i went on hundreds of dates and nobody was ever the right person for me. Wait, wait. Did you say hundreds of days? I did. Can I assume your leftovers, please?

I would go on and get it on a Friday night, I'd go in a restaurant, and then the next night go on a date with someone else at the same restaurant and put my head down. Did you find it exhausted? Yes. So I gave up. I said, I'm done. Did you ever do two in one day, lunch and a dinner or lunch and meat for drinks? Did you do that?

Very good. No. Yeah, so I was done, and I think a lot of us had the same story. And then when this came along, I thought, well, they're going to scour the whole United States for the best person. So let's put it in their hands. And what would I do differently? I'm not as anxious or, you know, I'm not looking for it. I'm not actively looking for it.

But if it happened, it would be wonderful. Okay, I have a question and this may be an uncomfortable question, but I've always been curious about it. Okay. What? where you and Gary got to do you think things might have played out differently with him

I was going to say Teresa I know how hard it was for you and Gary but I appreciate your honesty because I mean you can never know what would happen I think as you said you and Gary probably wouldn't have ended up together just based on your personalities but I think you know

you taught a lot of us you gave us a hard lesson for you but a good lesson for the rest of us about taking her time and making sure it's the right guy. I mean, the right guy, and there's so much to be said about living in close proximity to the person. It's very difficult to have a long distance. Well, Susan knows.

It's difficult. She's doing it. And I wonder about Joan and chalk, don't you? Yes, I do. They're not doing. Sorry? I feel the same way as you. I wonder about them.

And I hope that it's working out for them. And maybe one day, yeah, they will live together. I got to tell you, Teresa, I always say, like I said to the guy, it's in paradise. I say anyone who asked me, I'm the goofball that if I found the guy I love. Now, I might draw the line at the cornfields of Indiana. I'm with you, I'm with you, Teresa.

But I'm the girl who would pick up and move. Susan, I'd the girl would pick up and move to St. Martin and say, I know I can't know if it's going to work unless I, if he were working, like chalk's working, right? So either that or doing what you and Gary were going to do, which is move to a new place. But I don't see how a long-distance relationship works over time. I agree with you, Kathy. It really is so difficult.

I want everyone to hear that. I agree with you, Kathy. Theresa, I'm going to be very good right now. Well, for me, I'm telling you with my long distance, it is difficult. Five weeks is the longest we've gone and it sucks. But ideally, eventually, when one of us don't work, I don't want to spend the summers there. It's too hot.

I think ideally he could come up here in the summer and I could live there in the winter and happy, happy. That would be amazing. Teresa, I have the big question. You know what happens. It is no secret that you and Kathy had drama on the Golden Bachelor. This is your first time with us, so we have to let our fans know.

Now that it's been two years, looking back on it, what do you both think about it now? I will say that I wish I had known what Kathy had gone through with our husband. I did not know that. You know, I know that, and I did think that Kathy was my best friend in the house. And I did tell her those things in, you know, confidence. I didn't know that anyone else knew what I said. And I never, you know, if Kathy had known that I was so hesitant to even go and that I wasn't really looking to be the person, I wasn't.

I was so excited about that date because I kept thinking, I'm not moving to Indiana, but when he said, I'm sick of the lake, I'm sick of taking the boat in and out of the lake. I want to move to Charleston, a light bulb went off in my head, and that's what got me so excited. Oh, well, maybe this is meant to be because my son lives in South Carolina. So that I've got so many women in my life, my daughter, my daughter-in-law, my two sisters, all my friends. and I had no one to tell it to and I thought I was telling only Kathy and I didn't know anybody on camera. I just want

to clear up one thing. First of all Trees and I, you and I have seen each other this is the first time you're on our podcast but this is not the first time you and have taught. We've talked on the phone. We've been together in D.C. And I think you know I think none of us were really

totally ourselves on that show And I, but I, what I want listeners, what I think about it, Susan, you asked, I think that you can grow at any time in your life. And Teresa, and I, Teresa, I think you would agree with me. I would like to see more of you. I wish we live closer. She was jealous because she can't come. She hasn't been invited yet. Yes.

I'm coming, Teresa. Yes. You're excited. I'm just saying, I think that, and you're welcome to come to Texas. we'll find you about a big 10-gallon hat and boots. Yes. I think, you know, we just needed to know each other better.

We were strangers. It's almost like you're in a car and you're getting mad and another driver for cutting you off. It's an impersonal situation. So that's really why I shut up after that. I really got closed off after that incident. I felt like I couldn't say anything.

And I don't think anyone... Go ahead. I'm sorry, Teresa. Go ahead. It would have been better. I wish I had known your story. You never. You never shared that with me about your husband. None of us knew anything. You mean about my husband's suicide? Yes, yes. I didn't know that.

Oh, I thought I had told you. No. But you know what? That is just a part of my life. And as I've said all along, like, you know, I was married almost 46 years. And no, you and I did talk about there's no perfect marriage, right? But yeah, suicide. But you lost your husband.

Death of a partner changes you. And then it's finding your way back to the light. And I think, Teresa, you and I have both found our way back to the light. And that's, I celebrate that. Well, I think life is agreeing with both of you because both of you look radiant and beautiful and their smiles are worth a million dollars. And so do you. How nice of you to say that?

Thank you. So is there anything you're looking forward to in your future? Any exciting plans? You know what? I'm just looking forward to continuing to either reconnect. with all of you and to continue the friendships that we have and to grow with the people that I talk to online. I'm sure you do too. I've made really, really good friends. I feel like there's a sense of community. I've been hesitant about sponsoring products. I would say that that's been

a problem of mine. And I think I might get it. I'm right good with you, Teresa. Yeah. I'm right with you. I might start doing it if I need products that I actually use or I would use. So that's been the issue for me. But, you know, I probably will venture out more and say more about the things that I do in my life. You know, the health was, maybe talk about the stock

market, about my gardening. Like I really, I... That wearing long sleeves to the beach. You know what? I had to take my... Oh my God, this is terrible. I just got a tan. I didn't want to get a tan. I was going to say, Teresa. I was going to say you look like you

have a tan. Oh, okay now. She's glowing. But I have to say to you, when you talk about selling stuff online, do you remember, I don't know if I said it to you, but I've said to a lot of people, like, I'm not selling toothpicks online. Like I handed to you, Teresa, you stand behind that way you're believable. Stand behind what you believe. Right. Right.

We were talking about people in cars. Remember us sitting going down the road? Oh, that was so good. Look at us. It was so good. Yes, and I'm very surprised Susan didn't get it. a speeding ticket. Oh, wait, she got that after your house. Okay, we're going to move along.

We're going to move along to the question of the day. So here we go. Treesie, we love your thoughts on this. So this is our advice section of the episode. So we're going to kick it off of the question today. Okay, here we go.

It feels like everything is a sign that you're getting older from bad hangovers to sore joints. What was the moment that you felt like you were officially entering your golden years? What was transformation, that transformation like for you? Oh, my goodness. And, Teresa, you better think carefully because I know my answer and it better be the same is yours.

That's a really tough question for me because I feel ageless. I really feel that I really. That's my answer. Is there really? I feel that getting old is a choice. We can choose to look old and be. be old and have old attitudes. Theresa, give me five right through the computer.

Give me five. There you go. That was your own excited. That's great. Yes. It was, I haven't made the transformation. I don't feel old. You look beautiful.

We're energetic. We're not, you know, we're not, you know, we're not goal. Don't we see endless possibilities in our lives? We don't feel good. I really do. You know, when people say online to me or, well, they say to me a lot, you're just too short. It's too long. And I want to say, and I look at the person, I say, but you decided to be

come old. I didn't. And if you can carry it off and if it makes, I say, whatever makes you happen happy to each is very own. I will not intrude on what you do. As long as you're not harming anybody else in this world. Absolutely. But don't you both? Don't you both agree? Wait, I got a clap for Teresa. Yes. Exactly right. And Teresa and Kathy, don't you both agree as we did get older and we're in our golden years? We don't care as much what people think. That's That's the one thing that I've noticed, the major change in me. I don't really care what you think. Teresa, did you always care what people thought of you?

Well, I always did care. Me too. I agree with Kathy, I'm sorry, with Susan, that now I don't care. So I'm the oldest person in my office. And these young people, they'll be afraid to confront someone. I'll go, just give it to me. I'll just do it. I really don't care.

I'm older 50. I'm over 60. I'm over 70. I don't care. I don't care. That's the major change, I think. I think you're right. You know what?

I should have said that. I agree with you completely. Yeah. Well, okay, so I'm an odd man out here because I really, I... You never care? Yeah. I did, but not as much as probably I should have, if we're being honest. I mean, I just, I always felt, with what Susan never talked about earlier, Teresa.

I used to, in my younger years, say exactly what I thought. Now, actually, I do care what I say. And I really try to temper, believe it or not, I try to temper what I say and be much kinder because I know that my delivery sometimes can be tough. So now I think more about what I'm going to say and how I'm going to say. Amazing. So you're learning and growing and continuing to grow. And that's the thing I plan to do. And in fact, you're absolutely right.

Like, I think your hair is beautiful. If I could wear long hair, I would. I love that you do the things that make you happy. We should all do those things. And hold up some more, I cut my hair if that makes me happy, right? Right, but my point is, why should someone else? I think that we've all gotten to the point where we're like, what's it to you that I have long hair or that I wear makeup?

People have opinions and they're very opinionated online. Right. And they have comments. Because they're hiding behind their computer. But don't you get a kick? out of them sometimes like you get a kick out of them that there is interesting to hear what people have to say and sometimes they're right rude Trees I have a question does it bother you um because people ask me this all the time does it bother you if you hear negative comments about yourself

online no it really it really not bother me it doesn't yeah I still struggle right if if several people are saying the same things, then maybe I have to look at what they're talking about and maybe it's legitimate. But I've got a daughter. So they don't know you. Right. I know me, but I'm saying about my appearance. But I have a daughter who really sets me straight on everything.

She'll tell you what not to wear. Oh, she'll say, no, and that looks bad. Oh, my God, put a different bra. Oh, my God, do this. What did you do with her? It looks horrible. Wait, is it her name, Caitlin? Because she sounds like my daughter. I have to tell you all. Brittany used the line mom never wear that again

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But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My daughter and her son and my granddaughter came yesterday, and my daughter is like your daughter. We're very close. And she looked at me and out of the clear blue, we're just walking last night down the street. She goes, Mom, I've turned into you. Don't you love hearing that? That's so fantastic because my daughter did too.

She's a gardener. She eats like me. I didn't tell her I do any of these things. It's great. It's great. All right, guys. So we're going to get into the advice. part. Teresa, what we do is read some things that people write in and they need some advice

and we'd like you to share yours. So we constantly get write-ins from Goldens that have lost their partners and are grappling and getting back out there. It's hard for them, I know. What advice would you give them number one? And what do you think really help both of you when you were navigating dating again. Also, what advice do you have for those that are struggling with even being ready to find love again? Yeah, you know what I was going to start with that? I would say the first thing you have to do is really make sure you are ready. Because I know when I grieved, there's a grieving process and I cried and Kathy probably will say the same thing. I cried every single day and then I felt filthy and I felt mad and I was sad and I regretted things I didn't

do and I think it was a full almost two years and I said be absolutely ready and the the moment I was ready it was New Year's Eve and I said to my daughter you know what I just want to have dinner with a man so maybe and she put me on match and maybe just do it that way to start out with friendships even if you go on a dating app and I think that's probably the easiest way to connect with people even if you're just going to be friends don't look at it as though this has to be a romantic connection go out and meet people and then join groups as things you're interested in

and just even have the mindset that you are open and then your attitude will project to other people and smile at people. That's the hardest thing I have is that, you know, to make eye contact with someone, you know, man,

and then smile at them. Do you have male friends? I have what? Do you have male friends? Yeah, I do. I do. I have a few, but I find the men that wanted, they don't want friends, they want today. Yes.

Okay. If you start out thinking it doesn't have to be a romantic connection just to go out. And so if it doesn't work out, then you just say, you are a lovely person. I just don't think we're the right person for each other. But you're right. Most men don't. But I got into conversations with men. I mean, I became some of their therapists.

That's how I've got. Right, right. But your advice would be. make sure you're ready. And how do you know, is there a moment? Like you said, New Year's, you got up and said, I want to have dinner with me. Kathy, how about you?

What was the moment that you decided? Okay, it's time to move on. Well, Teresa, you're absolutely right. I think I had my first date before I was ready. So when was I really ready? You guys aren't going to believe me. I don't think I was really ready. until I went on Golden Bachelor.

And it wasn't even going on the show. It was meeting all of you and hearing your stories and sort of reflecting on my own life. I thought, you know what? Kind of if they can do it, I can do it. I don't know if that makes sense. But I just felt the camaraderie of other, because when my husband died, Treesa, to your point, I cried every day. And I could cry now.

And I remember saying to my husband, to my therapist, will there ever be a day where I don't cry? And she said, yes, but it's not today. So I think for me, it really was going to The Bachelor and seeing these women that were all in our age range and hearing your stories and thinking, I can do this. Yeah. Wow, that's really great. You know, you didn't hear a lot from me about me being upset about my husband because I felt that I had gone through the reading process. I was done. And it's so it never came up for me as an issue. And it almost looked like, oh, did she like her husband or not? But no, I never felt that way. I never felt that way.

I thought, I thought the part of your story, Teresa, that I remember was talking about, and I don't if I learned this on the show or after the show, that you were married very young and you were married in the basement of the church. Is that right? No, the basement of my mom's. My mom, my mother and dad's home. Home. And it wasn't a fancy wedding and... Oh, actually, I got married in church, in a Catholic church, but the reception was in our basement. Right. And I remember you saying it was, you were very young and it wasn't a big fancy wedding.

I just remember that you talking about now. Yes, I said that. Yeah, that's true. And then I immediately went to Berlin and lived there. Oh, my God, wait. I didn't know that. I immediately got married and we moved to Scotland. Really? Wow. We're still learning. I did not know that. How long did you live in Scotland? Two years. My husband was an officer in the Navy. Oh, wow. My husband was drafted during the Vietnam War, so it was only there in nine months. I knew that, but I didn't know you went to live in Berlin. Did you like it, Teresa? It was amazing. I loved it. I remember standing on a corner,

street corner, going, this is a once in a lifetime experience. I will never be here again. I have to really savour this moment. How long were you there, Teresa? Just nine months. It was only nine and you won't believe this. While I was there, I was in an Army production of the man of La Mancha, and I was the lead, Al-Danza. And I don't have it on film.

It was tremendous. There were all these very talented, people who were drafted, choreographers, singers, dancers. And at the end of it, a group, these two men came up to me and said they wanted me to be the lead singer in their group.

You can sing, Teresa? Yes, she can. I had Frank Sinatra in the car. Well, I can't see that good. And that, well, what are you? I used to be able to sing, I can sing okay. But I just turned it down because I was so homesick for, what, Jersey City? Yeah, right, right, right.

Teresa, now that we've gotten to ask you all kinds of questions, we want to open the floor up to you. Do you have any questions for Kathy or I? Okay, yes. Well, that was great. No, actually, I have your questions. Did you write them down, you knew? Oh, God.

Okay, go to that. I have wine. Okay, yes, I should have some. You have wine. I don't have wine. I need wine. Go ahead, Teresa. Okay.

What do you feel, Kathy, would make you happy at this point in your life? What are you looking for? You know, Teresa, that is such a good question. And the answer is different now than it was six or seven months ago. I would love to find the guy to try. to travel way to go out for dinner with I don't think I'm cut out

to get married again and spend 24-7 with a man I would love to The best friend, right? No, not even the best friend. I would love to be able to travel more with my girlfriends. You know, I had such a great time

with Leslie in Paradise. Susan and I went to Greece. I would love for us all to get together having friends to do things with and having a guy to have dinner with, that's really what makes me happy. Spending time with my grandchildren, I treasure and my family every minute of it.

I don't need a man, if that makes sense. Yes, that was a great answer. I think I agree with you completely. I feel the same way. But, yeah, different. But I'd like to date. Yeah, I want to date, too. And I don't know that I'm ready to live with someone.

It's so great to have someone to have someone to. go to dinner with and to sit around and watch TV with, but not necessarily. You, like, when you cook, do you, and we've gotten used to, like, doing what we want when we want, right? Yeah, that's true. The man that you meet has to be okay with that. I'm going to sleep like a princess. Like, I sleep with pillows in a room.

Oh, she does, too, and she has the little room. She has this big, gorgeous room, and she stays in the little room. I was very happy. Okay, so Susan, what you think is the biggest misconception about women, our age, intellectually, sexually, what is it that people think we're old and we don't have what it takes anymore because we're probably more sexual now than we were in our 20s when we were having babies. Well, what do you mean more sexual? Whoa, whoa, whoa, what does that mean more sexual?

We enjoy it. We're in touch with our own bodies. We know ourselves better. And when you're with a partner, you can relax and not worry if the lights are on or not. I am who I am. I'm comfortable in my own skin. And I think younger people look up at us like they don't have a clue or, you know, they don't have the clue. And that's sort of what I meant when I saw the reaction that the younger people had when all of the Goldens came on.

like, oh, like, as if we've never had like, we don't have sexuality anymore, that they couldn't even picture it. I think we're more sexual and sexy now because you're comfortable with yourself. Yeah. Well, wait, let's be clear. Let's be clear. None of those young guys on Paradise, let me just be clear. They didn't think we're sexy at all. Let's just let's be clear. But I don't care, right? That's the, that's the beauty we don't care. But I want to know, Teresa, where do you, because Because obviously, I feel like you've changed like I have as well. Where do you see, I hate them, where do you see yourself in six months or a year,

but where do you see? What is the most important thing to you right now? Besides our kids and our grandkids, because I know you're as close to yours as I am to mine. But, you know what does Teresa want? I really do want to be in love. I do. I think that love is the most important thing. Oh, I mean you love is the most delicious feeling in a world.

It's the most wonderful feeling. So I am extremely open to it. But, you know, I want to ask both of you, do you get approached by young men? Because I've got many 30-year-olds in my direct messages. I have things. I just have to say, first of all, Trees, just to clear the air, or be clear, I would love to be in love. I'm saying for me, love doesn't necessarily mean 24-7 in the same reason. I love, I love your description of it being delicious.

It absolutely is. So there's that. I have to say, but Susan and I were in Greece, I met the owner of the hotel. Let me just say, ladies, if I disappear, it's because I'm back in that hotel. He adored her. Wow.

Why did you stay there? He was such a sweetheart. Oh, my God. I tell you my kind of guy. Have you reached out to him, Kathy? We've chatted a couple of times, but let me repeat. He is, he's 58 years old. I told him how old I was.

He said something to me and I said, can I tell the old I am? And he goes, I don't care. He said, you are beautiful. You are smart. I mean, he, and Susan kept saying he's into you. I was like, no, he's not. He's just asking questions. You couldn't tell.

You could tell. Kathy, you can't let that go. I know. You can't. Because connections are so hard to get in this house. He lives in brief. If there are only so few people. And my illusion.

No. Well, you know, I'm not flying. And then you did the right thing, stay with them. But go ahead again. I can't fly to Greece every week or every two. And I just told you, if I'm in love with the guy, I'm going to go be with him. And if he's working, like, this guy can't retire. He has a daughter.

And he's a cute boutique hotel. But then can't you go there, say, like, for three months and just see if it works out and keep your home? Okay, but let's say it does work out. Am I moving to Greece and not seeing my family? Nobody said you have to go for a few months. No, I'm not, I, mm-mm. Well, then what you said is not really true. No, no.

It is true. Because you said you were open to relocating, remember? I am to Greece. We can argue all day long. Teresa, are you, would you move to Greece? No, because you, I understand that children and grandchildren. No, but this is. I would move, hear me.

Yeah, it's seven hours. I would move to Kansas or wherever you live. is, Wichita, because that is a flight. That's a two-hour flight. I would go spend three weeks with chalk, fly back, and spend a week with my grandkids. I would do that. Okay. Flying for three

months? Yeah. Mm-hmm. No. Seven hours to three hours. It's just four hours more. Excuse me, Greece was 10 hours from Austin, Texas. It was 10 hours? No, I think it was nine. It was nine. Yeah. That's a long flight, though.

It was 10 hours and 45 minutes. coming back. Maybe you just have a romantic fling. Okay. And so you just do it for three months and that's the end of it. Okay, Tunea, I'm going to make a deal with you before we wrap this thing up. If you have a romantic fling, you and I can fly together to Europe and we'll each have our flings and then we'll fly back to our grandkids, right? Okay, ladies.

That does it for this episode. I think we can go on all night. That does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you so much, Teresa, for joining us here. And we do need to make a plan. And thanks for sharing your advice. Really, it's been great having you, Teresa. I love to bring that out of it.

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