Bachelor Happy Hour - Men Aren’t S*** with Demi Burnett | Golden Hour

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back together to sit down with a very special guest: Demi Burnett! Demi is here to talk all things “Bachelorette,” autism awareness, and so much more. We kick things off by catching up with Demi and learning all about her projects. Then, we dive into her unfiltered thoughts on “The Bachelorette,” why she wants to see this season, and so much more. Demi then takes us through her experience with autism and what awareness means to her. Plus, we get more of Demi’s iconic input on dating right now; are men the root of all our problems? Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode, including part two with Demi, where we answer your questions! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to Golden Hour. I'm Kathy. And I'm Susan. And it's so nice. I'm so happy to be back.

We are so happy to have you back. We had fun with our guest hosts. and but we missed you Susan so yay I'm glad you're personally I'm so glad you're back thank you okay today we have don't we always have special guests but this one is a favorite our favorite bachelor in paradise girl demi um and we are so happy to have you here hi demi hi demi hi i'm so happy to be here I love chatting with you ladies hanging out with you I've missed you how are you I'm good. Yeah. It's nice to see you again.

It's so good to see you. I want to hug you. I know. Soon, baby, soon. Yeah. So what's going on in Demi's world? Talk to me. Well, I mean, what do I do a lot? I stream a lot. I stream playing Fortnite and playing video games. Yeah. So that's what I do. I know I still crochet. So yeah, crocheting and playing a lot of video games. And like I have like, a cool little online community now and you know it's like slowly growing but um it's just like a safe

space where a bunch of girls can play video games together because if you know anything about video games it can be like really toxic and scary because like guys are really mean and mess yeah so not just not just with video games may i say no they're literally they ruin everything they've infiltrated everything and they've ruined everything um so it's like a nice little safe space for girly pops who like to play video games too. Nice. What about sewing? Have you had the sewing machine out at all?

Well, no, but me and my friend, we do have a project coming up and we are going to use the sewing machine in June. In June, the sewing machine is going to be used. So just so all of our listeners know, when we were on, got to get out together, she had an interest in sewing but hadn't a clue, so I bought her a starter sewing machine. She did. And I have sewed. I've made a pair of pants.

I've made a pillowcase. And I've cut out some fabric to make some more pillowcases. I just haven't done it yet. But I'm really excited to do this thing in June because we're like making a surprise dress for one of our friends. And so like they're going to be so excited. And also I've been like doing it with me. So, you know, it's like you can always just get more done with an extra set of hands. That's so exciting.

I want to be part of your online community. I have to tell you, Demi, I just taught my seven-year-old granddaughter how to crochet. and she is the most cracker jack chaner you've ever seen i've got her into single crocheting we're about to learn double crocheting but yeah i'm the queen of afghan making with crocein oh my god the needlepoint with her yet kathy she's too young she's too young for no okay that's so special that you can um teach her that i'm excited because like the blanket i'm working on right a lot of people are like that's a good family heirloom and i'm like you're so right Someone could be fighting for this when I'm a broke.

They better be fighting over it. There you go. All right, Debbie. Now, we've seen your TikToks about wanting to see Taylor's season. And that whole taking the Rose's back moment, you know what I'm referring to, right? What were your thoughts on the pause? And how have you felt watching it all play out? I mean, what are you thinking?

I mean, absolute cinema. I mean, I am, I've never been so hooked and locked in and on something for so long, you know, it's been, I mean, it's very unfortunate for everyone involved. But as, like, a bystander, objectively, it's been very entertaining. And, I mean, of course, it's also been very sad. It's very, I have very complex feelings about it. But the ultimate feeling is, like, let's see it. Release it, you know, let us be it. Because so many people worked hard on it, not just her.

Like, there's a whole, and you know what? Fuck them boys. I don't care about the boys, the men. I don't care about their feelings and how they're saying that isn't shown. I'm sorry, I don't care. I don't. I have zero. Why?

Why do you say that? Because I don't think that we need any more male influencers. I just don't. I don't think they're, what are they really doing on the internet? Like women are providing so much inspo and creativity. And we are just stunning to look at. And what are these men doing? All they're doing is getting attention and getting a bunch of DMs from a bunch of women who are better than them.

And they don't even know it. Hold on that way. Women don't get the DMs. Is that it? What do you say? Women do get the DMs as well. Well, that's fine. But I'm sure they don't get the same amount.

I'm sure not near the same amount. Are you a little biased? maybe like you like women better. The reason that I think that I know this is because I was one of those girls before I ever was on the show I absolutely would have been in their DMs I probably was I think I wasn't Nick Vial's DMs like come on okay I know what they're getting and it's just yeah it's just it disgusts me it's okay wait they're like mid they are mid dudes who don't even have a real job they can't even survive demi demi they have great bodies to look at come on that's something Not enough.

I mean, you may not want it, but they have great bodies. You know what I would like to see them do? What? Clean up something. You know? Do you see what I love her? Because I've been taking care of myself for like the past however many years I've lived alone, like seven years. I'm sick of it.

You think I want to take care of someone else too? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Okay. Wait a bit. Hold on. Hold on. I just want to say, Demi, if you feel that struggling now, I can't wait.

you get to be our age. You're going to be, you're going to be, you know, taking names and kick an ass. That's what you're going to be doing. They're not going to be safe because I'm fed up. All right. So let's get, I want to get back to the show. It's fed up as you are. Did you ever expect that the show would be paused? Were you surprised that it was paused? I was surprised that it was paused. Honestly, I did not think that it would get paused because the incident that like caused it, I guess to get paused was from a long time ago.

And it was as they already had their day in court or whatever over that. So it's like we already knew that something, we saw it on the Secret Lives of Mormon Wines. Like we already knew like this really bad moment happened. The thing that

makes me so sick is that I know that this is just exactly what Dakota wanted. Like Dakota is a demon himself. Like, I think that they both have their issues, but him, demon. Like, that is a life-ruining man. And he will cause women to go crazy and act out of character and lose, like, themselves and, like, all of their toxicity to that.

I'm not saying that's 100% what's going on. I need to, I need to back it up because I don't know. Also, please don't sue me, all right? That's just your assumption. That's all. This is just, this is what I'm seeing. The patterns I'm recognizing and, like, yeah. So I hate that he's.

I hate that like her not like the season not being aired is like a win for him. Have you got to talk to Taylor at all or any of the guys that were on her season by chance? No, I haven't talked to Taylor at all, no. The only time I've ever talked to, well, I've met Taylor, but, you know, her sister comes into my lives sometimes in my live streams because her sister plays Fortnite. So I've talked to her sister, but not since then, not since everything has gone down. But yeah, it's. I mean, what did you guys think about whenever they, it was canceled?

What happened? I mean, I look. It hasn't been canceled. It hasn't been canceled. Sorry, pause. Yeah. This is happening. I think.

Yeah, I think that, you know, the, the network, you know, when, when you have that kind of misogas going on, you, you don't want to do the wrong thing, you know, you, and I think that's what they're being safe rather than sorry. That's what I think. And my opinion, I think now that they paused it, there's so much. curiosity out there. Oh my gosh. I mean I'm dying to see it. Me and all my friends are dying to see it. And we got the promo and the promo was stunning. I know. I love someone who's going to come in here and be like, I don't care what you think the value of this flower is. Like I'm taking it back or whatever,

you know, because I infamously came in and picked up the rose and everyone lost their mind over it. So I like to see them like breaking. I like to see how she's like breaking the character or breaking the fourth wall almost, but not. It's like she's going against like what you're supposed to do. on the show and it's fantastic what do you why do you do you have any idea i mean in the promo we don't really know why she took the roses back to what are your thoughts what do you think happened do you have any idea i know but i i assume that the men were not acting right you know they i would do the same thing i could see myself doing it such a thing pissed her off yeah yeah they're if i find out that they're any funny business any funny business you're going to go get them yes yes because

I'm not playing those mind games. And you know what? That's probably where she's at in The Bachelorette is any kind of mind games. Anything that's making her question herself or like, you know, think, wait, what's going on? I don't know. That's when she was like, nope, I'm not doing that anymore because that's what I've been doing with Dakota. So if that's happening to me, I'm taking those roses back. I don't know.

Good point. Very, very well spoken. I love it. I like this. All right. We're going to switch it up just a little bit. We'll come back to it if you'll come back. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy.

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My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app,

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your experience over the past few years. And I know that, you know, people say, we can't ask you to speak for everyone with autism. You know, if you've met, if we're asking you a question about autism, we're asking you, your opinion, you're not speaking for the community at large. So let me say that first. But what are some of the biggest misconceptions people, you think, people still have about autism? Well, I think there's a lot. I think there's still like a stereotypical view of autism, which is,

like, you know, the typical boy who likes trains or doesn't talk and stuff like that. But we're like, we're understanding that it's like being autistic means that you have a different way of like sensing and perceiving the world. So every autistic person, there is no, okay, the biggest misconception is that people think it looks a certain way. Right. My phone. Like there is no one way.

It is so, so you could not, there's no way that you could look at someone to know because it is so different for everyone that has it. In the spectrum, it's not like this. Like you're not like on the spectrum a little bit like a little bit here and then a lot of it here. Like the spectrum is like a circle and all around the circle are like different things like executive function, verbal communication, stuff like that like all kinds of things. I've made the chart before. So you have like different amounts of all of those. That's like the spectrum.

It's not a linear spectrum. Oh, interesting. And also. Physical touch is some that I've noticed in people like they can't. They don't like to be touched. Yes, yes, yes. But some autistic people love to be touched. And some autistic people are actually with a big hug squeezing them can actually regulate

them. whereas for me, I would be panicked and feel trapped, you know? So, Demi, I did a man, she's running season. Except when I hug you. Oh, no, when you hug me, no, it's different. It's very different because you're very safe. Very safe. I was doing a little bit of research.

You know, I have some friends who are on the, have the diagnosis of autism and some friends who have the same diagnosis. But I came across this article, and I was actually. curious about your thoughts on it. You know, they talk about, Susan, I talk about the love languages, you know, whatever it is, the five love languages. And I was reading an article about people of autism and that was saying that the love languages are different. The pebble, penguins pebbling. Yes, that's a, and I thought that was, so tell them what that is, because instead of gift giving, it's penguin pebbling. And instead of a physical

touch its deep pressure and there were all them. It went through all them, but I was so interested to read about that. Can you talk about that a little bit? Yes. I can't remember what they all are, but if you name them, then I could tell you more about them. But I remember the penguin pebbling because I just thought like that was so, I related to it so much. It's like giving like little gifts that like maybe aren't even a gift, but it's like something that I saw that made me think of you. And it could be something like a cap of a lipstick or something. And it's like just something so little, but like it's like my way of like showing you like I think of you and this made me think of you and I want you to know like um that's that's just thoughtful right that's no but but but but gift giving the what i read sorry it's like weird little gifts like like like not not normal like like okay susan for you

I would give you this little tiny fake lighter to make reminds me of you know I don't want to but you know what I mean? Because you think of me. Yes. Yeah.

I'd be like for in the morning with your coffee. Yeah. You know, and it would be something silly and cute like that. So yeah. And that's what I read that it holds personal meaning to the person. Another one, Demi, was parallel play.

Oh, my favorite. My favorite. It's like you're in the same room with someone, but you're each doing your own thing. Right. So you're not engaging together in the same activity. You're each doing your own activity, but in the same room. At the same time. Yes.

Yes. Yes. And if that can like, for me, that kind of goes with like body doubling. Like if usually I'll do it like on FaceTime, like with the first time. with a friend and she's doing like chores around her house and so like I'm doing chores around my house too and we're like both doing stuff at the same time and or sometimes though she doesn't even have to be doing anything I just need another presence there to chit chat while I'm doing the chores around the house. That's like normal though that's that's normal life with girlfriends is it not?

Susan you're probably autistic. On the spectrum. I am the spectrum. Yeah like we're so we connected so fast so readily. Oh my gosh yes. have no social awareness sometimes. Yeah. It's just because I don't have a filter and don't care. I live. We are conditioned by society to care. So the fact that you don't, that you go against the grain this much, screams autism. Okay. But back in my day, they didn't diagnose anyone then. No. You know, the ADHD. I had the whole probably alphabet, if you will. But Kathy, Kathy knows how I feel. I feel I live through my rose-colored glasses, and that's the world that I like to choose to live in.

A happy, kind place. Yes, and you should live there, and I love it there, and I love being in your world. Your world is amazing. It is. No, it's fabulous. It's so full of love and joy and laughter. Well, Debbie, I want you come into my world, too. I want you in my world, too.

We can crochet together, parallel play crocheting. Yes, I need to come into Kathy's world some, yes, because me and Kathy will have some realism there, you know? There you go. There you go. You can make me something. I'd like it in pink, please. Thank you. Okay, I can manage that.

Okay. Oh, I'd love to crochet with you. That would be so cute. We could parallel plate of the same. Susan, I'm going to teach you a crochet and the three of us are going to do a little crochet. I crocheted how many Afghans back of my day. Back in her day. Been there, done that.

Okay. I want to know, Demi, like, because it's, you know, things like autism, suicide, we've talked about people don't know what to say. They say the wrong thing. They don't know how to ask. Yeah. What are some ways that you would say that people can move beyond awareness of, in this case, autism, but actually practice real acceptance with others? Totally.

Okay. Listen to autistic people and maybe ask them, like the one, a great question to ask you is like, how can I best support you? Like, support, support, like, what can I do to support you? and not saying, I can do this to support you. Like, no, ask what you can do. Because there has been a misconception about autism for so long about ways to like fix it, quote unquote, or whatever.

And a lot of it is really damaging. And it's like you don't need to force them to do things. It's okay. Let them do it at their own pace or whatever. But like a lot of the forcing is really damaging. So like more of like asking questions. And also looking into like modern. research for yourself. If you have someone in your life who is autistic and you want to know how to

support better, maybe look it up. So whenever you do ask them, you are like familiar with what they might be talking about. And not make assumptions. Don't assume that you know what's best for that person. Absolutely. Asking is totally fine. I like, but Susan, I would, I would, Demi, I loved your answer. I think that is, it's right on the money. But I think it also crosses over into really all relationships. I'm guilty of this. Let me help you. Let me tell you what you need to do. When I think asking in general, how can I support you? What do you need instead of telling someone? I think that cuts across all communities. That's a really good reminder. So thank you for saying that. I love that. That's awesome. I feel like a lot like learning about my neurodivergence and like learning

about my brain has led into like what I would want in a partner of like understanding myself helps me to have compassion for everyone else as well. But yeah, so it is. It's like you you want someone who's just going to be willing to understand your brain the way that you're understanding your brain and the way that I'm willing to try to understand everyone else's brain and how I find compassion for everyone even, you know, when they are being mean or ugly. So if I were to ask you, how could I support you, Demi? What would you tell me? You already know. Feed me. You feed me. This is for everyone that's listened. This is how Susan supported. me and got to get out. I told Susan, I said, Susan, I can't go up there and get the food from the

place. Like, I'm too scared to like, I don't know why. I just, I'm never going to eat. I will never eat if you don't help me here. I need you to get me a plate or put enough on your plate for both of us, please. I would feed her. I begged her. And she's like, okay, freak, whatever. Like, nice, Susan. Nice. You call her a freak. Great. No, she did it. She did it. I adopted her. Are you kidding? She was like my daughter. She immediately did it. She immediately did it. She was making me breakfast in the morning. She was always taking, she was, you were fully supporting me. Like, and no one else, like, I couldn't have asked anyone else to do that, you know?

Like, I needed you. Well, Demi, if I'd been there, if I had been there, this would have been a match. You would have been a match. You would have to have. No, she wouldn't have. I, the fact that I didn't have to cook you food, I just had to go and get it. I would have gone for you three times a day. It's if I said, Demi, how can I support you?

And you said, could you cook me a meal? He'd be like, oh, God, she's going to die. She's going to starve. No, I just need it in front of me. I don't care where it comes from. Oh, I love you. I love you. Okay, I want to know what is it like, have you watched Love on the Spectrum?

And if you have, what's it like for you to watch a show like that? I have not watched the new season. I've watched a little bit of it. I really enjoy, like, seeing, I love seeing, like, autistic personalities, and I love seeing them get to shine and not in a way where everyone's making fun of them. It's in a way where everyone, like, loves them. And I think that that's, like, some of the coolest stuff I've ever seen. Like, you know, especially-

Would you ever go on a show like that? Would you? I don't think, it's, I think it's more of, like, level two, level three autistic people. I mean, if they had, like, more, like, level one people, then, yeah, I would. But, I mean, I don't know. Again, if level two, level three, means more support needs. And like I already have like I have low support needs, but like I'm already, I'm exhausted. You know, I am, I'm living off hot and spicy McChicons at this point.

Like, wait, why are you exhausted? What's going on? Just like taking care of myself. And I have four pets and I clean up after them all the time. Four pets? I have three cats and a dog. And, you know, that's just. Do you want two more cats? I have two ger after. cats that need home. No, do you want some cats? I'll give you one. No, I have to. Thank you.

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program. I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. We share stories and scientific insights to help us all better. navigate these periods of turbulence and transformation. There is one finding that is consistent, and that is that our resilience rests on our relationships. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcast. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you saw it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secret secretes. how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know,

but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything, and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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Listen to the 1021 podcast on the online. Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Demi, if there is one, what is the most frustrating narrative or misconception about you that just won't go away? Maybe just like, I kind of, like, sometimes I wish, I mean, but it's okay. But like sometimes I wish that, like, people understood that, like, at the end of the day, deep down, like, I don't have a bad bone in my body. Like, I really don't.

As much as I talk, like, all my bark, like, I'm not going to, I want to do the right thing at the end of the day every time. And I want to do what's right for everyone. Like, I really am extremely empathetic. I am very self-centered. I get that. I am. But I am also, like, I am very empathetic. And I care about equality more than one of my biggest values is people feeling equal.

and yeah, I don't know. I just, I want to do the right thing. Like, I don't know. So you're telling me people think you don't? Is that the misconception? Well, I don't know. I think that people probably think that, you know, I'm malicious.

And I, I mean, Susan, I get that. People said me, I don't have a mean bone in my body. But I, I've never thought of you that way, Demi. So it's interesting to hear you say that. Yeah. I think that, I think that maybe people, think that I might be mean girl or I have been a mean girl before. You know, your your bark is a chihuahua, not a pit bull, okay?

Just so you know. Yeah, it's just, you know, um, yeah, I think that, what'd you say? I said a chihuahua with bangs. Chihuahua with bangs. Yeah. I think, I think I just, you know, but also it doesn't, it's okay, whatever everyone thinks, Because like I think that going live has like helped me a lot to like, I'm the same exact way. I am on live off of live. And so like to get to just like show people like who I am like and just like meet a bunch of people that are like minded or like, you know, love it or get along with me and stuff.

It's it's like validating. And it's like, hey, I'm okay. Yes, you are. You are. You're better than okay. Tell you you're not. Okay. I want to jump to a new topic of one that's near and dear to my heart, Demi.

I heard that you have taken, or last time we talked, you'd been taking a break from dating. And are you still taking a break from dating? Do you have any updates on that? Because, you know, I'm living in Cricketland over here. So what's going on with you? Nothing, baby. Nothing. Not a single thing.

We are closed for business. In order to open up, it's going to be a lot. It's going to take a lot at this point. Okay, I'm not looking for love anymore. I'm looking for money. Okay. I have looked for love and all it left me was broke. Okay.

I need a stable person with good finances, financial good. I've never had anyone like spoil me when I, when I've been dating ever. I've never had like someone buy me a bunch of stuff. So I'm like, you know what? I want that. Call me crazy. No, that's not crazy. Demi, I'd like to say to you that it's right around the corner.

sitting in my not pink chair, it's pretty much the same story that you're living. It just, it doesn't seem to get better. We are, no, we are better for it because I saw this thing that said that men, men's lives improve with women. Women's lives only get worse with men. Literally. They only get worse with men. Like, we are so much happier once they pass away.

But wait a minute. Wait a minute. Demi, two things can be true at one time. right? But what you're saying is there's no hope for us. There's no hope. If we give everything and we get nothing, we're screwed. No, there's hope. There's hope. The hope is they start acting, right? The hope is we all close them up. Everybody seal her up. And we say, no, we're not. We have the power. We have the power of the. And we just forgot. And we've been trained to think that we don't. They have literally trained us for years and years and years into submission, but we got to remember, we can make them do anything that we want.

Particularly if they're 60 and you're 30. I don't even, I wouldn't even want that. Okay. I don't want that. She's like not going after problems. That's your man. What do you mean? Come get your man.

Come get my man? Let me know what bus stop he's at. He's at. I'll be right over. Debbie, how about your mom? My mom is good. My great-grandma just passed away finally. I know.

How old was she? Grandma. Yeah, she's in 90-something. I don't know exactly. Yeah, and her mom lived to be in her 90s, too. My great-great-grandma was alive when I was a baby. You know what this means, Demi? It means you got a lot of years left to find your right person.

And guess what I don't? My entire life, I've known my Gigi. She has not been with a man. because her husband had passed away already. And so Gigi was so happy because she had her own house with all of her knick-knacks everywhere. And it was just everything she wanted. And that's why I think she lived so long is because she was husbandless for so many years. And she was happy with what she wanted.

Yes, everything that she wanted. There's something to be said about that. Oh, God. Okay. And so anyway, my mom has been taking care of my granny because my granny, you know, it's devastating for her. but like we all knew it was coming she she begged my granny she was like please let me die please my body I've outlived my body please any new updates for your life any projects are we going to see you on TV anytime soon or

no but I wish I want to tell someone talk to Dina Katz and tell her to put me on the traders please no excuse me I want traders trust me maybe that you know what Susan let's get the three of us on there. I mean, come on. Come on. Let us be on there. It'd be amazing. It'd be amazing.

Stop putting the dudes on there. I'm telling you, of all the competition shows that are out there, that's one I want to do, really. Well, unless it's, you know, going to Vanderpump villain having men fall over me in the hot tub. But, you know, other than that. They should have you go on Van der Pempsville. Did you go to the Hulu party this year? No, why didn't get invited? I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. Either. Why? God. That was so much fun. I know. I wanted to go. I wanted to get invited.

I was like, I asked my manager, I need invited. But that's okay. You know. Because it's the biggest show right now. I mean, that's, that's the new bachelor. You know, that's, go to get millions of followers now. Oh, no.

Wait a hold on, Debbie. What do you think about Bachelor coming back? Bachelor's coming back and Bachelor in Paradise in, in 2027 what's your thoughts on that oh who who who who me the bachelor sorry who's we i don't know but they said it was announced last week it's coming back are you excited that they're bringing back paradise and bachelor in 2027 yes you know i'm going to be honest with you it's really hard sometimes for me to get excited for things that i'm not involved in do you know what i mean hey i was like susan you and

and I must be autistic too because we're right there with you, Demi. It's just that, I mean, most people probably feel that way. They just probably wouldn't say it. Oh, God. I could say here and talk to you. I'm so excited for The Bachelor and Bachelor parents come back. I'm watching with my friends. I probably know.

All right. We're done. We're done with The Bachelor. We're done. We're moving on because we're not on advice. Okay. That's all for now with Demi, but stay tuned because part two will be out very soon. See you next time.

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