Bachelor Happy Hour - Menopause, Microtrends, and Technology’s Grip on Us | Golden Hour

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re dishing out more advice! We kick things off with some “Golden Wisdom,” a segment where we help you tackle today’s biggest questions: W...hy is dating so hard right now? How do you parent a generation of children that are already obsessed with anti-aging? Then, we have a candid conversation about technology’s grip on us. From not seeing kids playing outside to the overwhelming ways the world has completely changed, we’re covering it all. Plus, we end this episode by giving our ins and outs for 2026! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us. We're so excited to be back. And how are you today, Kathy? You know, I'm fabulous except 112th of 2026 is almost here. Like the month has gone so quickly.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Don't you think the years are going so quickly as we get older, the faster it goes? You and I've had this conversation. I used to say that. I hate saying the spring, but ever since my husband died, time has crawled. So I guess it's a good thing. That in 2026, the month is going back quickly.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Maybe that means I'm, you know, getting back more to normal or whatever. But, you know, January has been a really funny month. It's been crazy weather. I've been home a whole lot more this month than I have been in recent months. So I don't know. It's just been, it's been a good month.
Starting point is 00:01:06 though. What about you? It is. It's speeding. I think it races to my birthday. And then it slows. It's the big one coming, Kathy. It's the big one. The 69. That is huge. No, no, no. 60. 70. Why 69? I'm not doing 70. I'm just saying my 69 is one we're going to celebrate. The big one. Okay. The big one is coming next year. We're starting over. It's not a big one. And so when Susan has our 70th birthday next year, we're just going to say, oh, yeah, it's just another day. Yeah, we're going to be in Europe somewhere, I hope. All right. Filming something.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I would love it. All right, well, while we're daydreaming about birthdays in Europe, today we're going to do things a little bit differently. Okay. We're going to try a segment called Golden Wisdom, where we talk out some big questions and then just share our thoughts. And I'm going to start us off, okay? Okay, dook. All right. why do you think dating is so hard for everyone right now?
Starting point is 00:02:07 I think I know the answer. Well, give it to me. Because they're swiping left, they're swiping right, and everybody thinks there's something better. It's insane. I have not been on them in quite some time, but I, honest to God, I fell into that category myself at one time
Starting point is 00:02:28 when I was doing so much, well, let's see what else. Like maybe it's crazy. I can't disagree. Yeah, I can't disagree with you. I think that there's so many options. Technology, internet, dating apps. It's just made it so easy to say, yeah, you know, I think there should be a new, like a new app. I've been thinking about this.
Starting point is 00:02:52 The grass is always greener app. So you swipe, you're like, yeah, the grass isn't greener. I will look at this one. I do think, though, that that's what's going on. There's just so many options. The days of fixing people up or meeting at a public place or a bar. It does, but people rely so much on technology. I also think right now people are so busy working, trying to make ends meet.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You know, people just don't have or make the time as much, I think, right now to date. Maybe I'm just talking about myself, actually. I also agree about the technical. what the world was like when we grew up. But how about the difference between kids or teenagers now versus when we were kids or teenagers? Well, it is, you can't have this conversation, Susan. Nobody can have a conversation about kids and teens now versus, you know, when we were kids. Why?
Starting point is 00:03:55 And when we were teenagers. Well, first and four months. We're going to have this conversation. You just said we're not, I think we're going to have a conversation. Well, you can't have it without just one word introducing it, and that is technology. That is. It is. It has changed.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Everything about how, you know, kids are on, their best friends are online. You know, they play all these games online and they have friends online. Technology has changed the way we think, the way we date. We order our groceries online. We order our clothes online. The way we have our friends. We learn online. Like, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Remember encyclopedias? Like we were fortunate to have encyclopedias, our family, and I remember friends that didn't how to come over to use ours to do homework. Now you press a button. Right. So much literally information is at our fingertips. And what I think is unfortunate, I live in a neighborhood that's like a big, well, you've been here. It's a big circle, right?
Starting point is 00:04:56 And there's lots of kids in this neighborhood. I rarely see kids outside playing. I was going to say, I don't remember seeing children. And there's tons of them because they're on their computers. Yes, kids still do after-school sports or gymnastics and those kinds of things. But I just think once we introduce technology, there's no going back. There is a paradigm shift between what childhood was like for us and what childhood is like. is like for kids now.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You know, as you said, in schools, they use computers now. Computers are everywhere. There isn't one aspect of our life that doesn't involve technology. Do you remember not too long? Wait, I got one. I got one. What? Oh, never mind.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I was going to say sex, but people use it online for that too. It wasn't too long ago. We did a podcast. And one of the people that wrote in the question that her daughter did not want her to share her life with her grandchildren. And this right here is proof. Like it's so different. Why wouldn't you tell them what it was like for us?
Starting point is 00:06:08 You're so fortunate to have all these things at your fingertips. We didn't grow up that way. I know. I also think that kids, when parents are teaching their children, and whatever we're trying to teach them, kids just hop on the computer and they can find somebody who thinks about it differently as if that's, you know, proof. That's verifiable proof. I think one of the biggest issues for kids today, which is very unfortunate, the internet, Instagram, TikTok, all of them, people, and I've said this to you before, people always put out the fabulous
Starting point is 00:06:49 lives they want other people to see them having. Yes. The only, the, And so, only the good moments. So young kids, the bullying, think about it. You know, all those aspects of the internet, but also the fact that kids look and they think they have a terrible life because they're seeing these imaginary, if you will, imaginary lives out there. And so, you know, I think that parents today, it's a tough, it's tough being a parent because you really have to manage the tech.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Like I said, you can't have this conversation without talking about technology. So, okay, so here's, let's move away from technology because that's, we, you know, could be that. We're screwed, period. Yeah, pretty much. Parents get your kids off of technology. Get them outside for share. I'm just happy. I learned some of it.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And give them a book. Go back to reading. That's my PSA for the day. Okay. What, let's talk about advice. What do you have to say? to parents whose kids are already obsessing over skin care and anti-aging at the age of 12. You know, it's never too soon to start.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Are you kidding me? I think they should school them and tell them what is necessary and keeping your skin protective from the sun and clean and some suffer with acne, some don't. But definitely school them young. But not on anti-eathing. Gene? Why not? The sun's going to age you. Look at me. I didn't use sunscreen until a few years ago. Well, no. No. No. I think this is a little bit different. This is talking about kids who are obsessing. Yes. If a kid saying, mom, you know, it's 17. I'm my skin. Look, it's getting old. I need plastic surgery. I mean, it's, again, slippery slope. Kids go online. You and I've talked about this.
Starting point is 00:08:55 How many skin products, anti-aging products, do they use a 20-year-old to advertise for anti-aging? And do you know I talked with someone who's in that world? And I was told the reason they use young people, not you and me. Because they look good still. It's because, no, yes, but because they can get people on the bandwagon really young buying their products. She's using it. Yeah. I should be.
Starting point is 00:09:25 My daughter for Chris, my granddaughter, Bella, who was 13 years old, had a specific eye cream that she wanted for Christmas. I said, really? Where did she hear about it? I didn't ask her that. Bet it's the Internet or a friend. I'm sure. And the friend heard it from another friend. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I mean, the marketing, the marketing genius. It's unbelievable. But I don't like that kids obsess over that. I really don't. Teach your kids. I think you were on the right track when you said, teach your children about brushing teeth and washing their face
Starting point is 00:09:57 and good hygiene but that's hygiene all not okay yes protecting yourself from the sun that's a big one that's the biggest one that I wasn't taught it's not for anti-aging Susan it's for skin cancer well it's also for aging you can't say it's not well I don't know about you but I'm never going to talk to my eight-year-old granddaughter
Starting point is 00:10:19 about putting sunscreen on for anti-aging I'm going to say to her protect. At 8, 10, 11, 15, 18, I'm going to say, Linley, put sunscreen on so that you do not get harmful rays and get skin cancer. That's my answer. All right. How about when it comes to fashion, how can you spot the difference between a micro trend and a timeless style or trend? Can I say you have an answer for this?
Starting point is 00:10:48 Kathy has come a long way. Can I say? Can I say, Miss Boston over? over here. Miss Button-down collared shirt has come a long way. I'm proud of you. Thank you. But here's the thing. I don't know what a micro trend from a macro trend is, but I can tell you there are things that I buy that I know are going to be timeless. And you know it too. It's classic, yes. It's classic piece. A good, a good navy blue blazer with gold buttons. a cashmere sweater,
Starting point is 00:11:24 cashmere coats, a trench coat, a khaki-d, I mean, there's certain pieces. But when you look, if you want to know what is micro-trendy? Can you all tell? Can I interrupt that she is got Boston blood because the trench coat,
Starting point is 00:11:40 the navy blue blazer with the gold buttons, it's all so Boston. I will always have them in my closet. They're timeless. I remember, Kathy, you say, and I said, no more skinny jeans. No, they're coming. back. You said they're coming back. Now we all wear big baggy jeans. I wear everything.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Skinny jeans are coming back. They're not. They're really not. Just say no. I'm wearing my skinny jeans. The hell with you. But here's the thing. A micro-trend. Skinny jeans have been in a long time. I think women now wear what they want to wear. But a micro-trend is something that literally is in. So give me some examples of micro-trendes because you are the fashionista. I think that, well, no, that might not be micro because they've been out more than a year that the really short crop tops and the low rise, low rise are coming back in again. Micro trend could be a specific kind of a shoe, you know, something crazy shoe that's here and gone. And nobody wears it again. Yeah, I mean, I think.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But the people that run out and buy them, that's the best part. Well, for you it is. See, I don't buy microtrends because I, for example, I think, a micro trend is, I think, are these really short rompers. Not rompers, because rompers have been around a long time, but the ones where it's leaving very little to the imagination, I don't think those are going to last. Do you? Only for young girls. Young girls can wear anything because they're young. When you get a woman our age that has a great fit body and she puts that on, people are going to talk.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It's just not age appropriate. Okay, now we're getting into this. Do you think that, okay, we're just going to be honest with our listeners. Okay. Susan and I were at an event recently, and Susan had on a gorgeous white leather, hot pants, shorts and a matching.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It wasn't hot pants. There were shorts. That's what we called hot pants. Excuse my, excuse my micro trend where my age is showing. they were they were very short they weren't very short okay well to me they weren't short well but that's like a mini dress to you if you hold your arms to the side now everybody listening please do a self-check i went to catholic school and we had to hold our hands to the side of our uniform and it had to be hemmed no shorter than our fingertips right well i used to get in trouble because my uniform was
Starting point is 00:14:28 always short. I mean, okay, that's where my fingertips were. Okay, I'm sorry. I think really short shorts where you better be careful how you bend. Like Daisy Duke short shorts? That's short.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Do you know Daisy Duke? Yeah, their little, your butt cheeks hang out. Right? My shirts were not like that. They were close. Anyway. The hell they were. I'm going to put a picture up.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I swear to you, go ahead, go ahead. It was a very classy looking short, leather. Where I was going with this is I think a lot of this conversation has to do with perspective because for me, you took a lot of heat for wearing them. Some people said you look fabulous. Some people said you shouldn't wear them. Do you remember what I said? I wouldn't wear that.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I've got very long legs and I have good legs. I wouldn't have worn that outfit for me when I was 18. I don't think it's about age. It's about comfort. And so for me, you look great for me. You wouldn't feel comfortable in it. Exactly. It has nothing to do with age.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I wouldn't have born it at 18. So, you know, I am from Boston. That's me. That's what I'm saying. But you were more conservative than I am. And so, you know, I don't know, spotting the difference. I think a micro trend is when I have an owl neck when I see him walking down the street and I turn around and say, did you see that?
Starting point is 00:15:56 That's what a micro trend is. Remember Calnecks? Calnecks came in. I still have them. I still like it. Please don't. Please. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:04 What is something regarding menopause that you don't think is spoken about enough? And this one, we could do an episode of this, but we're going to keep a short. We need a whole episode on menopause, I'm telling you. That is not spoken about enough. Yeah. We talk today about menopause, about every aspect of it. I think. What do you think we don't talk?
Starting point is 00:16:27 about. Well, you and I talk all about it, but I think the question is in general, the people in general don't talk about. Like not preparing women for menopause? That that's, yeah, I'll just, I'll start with one. I think that, first of all, for me, menopause was easy. You and I've had this conversation. I don't know, I don't know what a hat flush is. So, but people don't want to hear that, Kathy. I know, well, some people. Because a lot of them out there are sweating. Well, you know, but I think what people don't talk enough about is the specifics of what it means to go through menopause. You know, everything drives up, you turn into a prune, but also what you can do to make it better or what you shouldn't do. I think people talk about, it's like, you know, running up to the edge of a cliff and you don't know that there's a big fall.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's like, you know that cliff is coming. You know, women know menopause is coming. And then, oh my God, I hit menopause. And they don't know what to do or what to think about it because nobody prepared them for the. And a lot of people just think, okay, I'm going to have hot flashes or I'm going to do this and this. It happens to your brain as well. It's your entire body. Your brain, you think differently.
Starting point is 00:17:47 You go through, I don't want to call it a depression, but there's some people that I've helped going through this. to get them back on track. There are things you can do. There's hormone replacement. There's bioidentical hormone replacement. But the way you think is not the way you used to think. It's crazy. I think exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Maybe I haven't gone through a menopause yet. Do you don't remember like the lack of desire to be with your husband sexually? A lot of women go through that. I mean, one of my best. friends, his wife, he goes, Susan, God. I said, I'll talk to her. I don't know what to tell you, though. It's a sin. But that proves my point, that women may be, for some women, they have decreased sexual desire. Some women have, you know, crazy outbursts. Some people get depressed. I don't think those things are talking about
Starting point is 00:18:46 that you may experience some of these things. All right, Susan, you're not going to write a little book. We're going to write a book. How about Kathy, do, is there anything that you think needs to be debunked when it comes to menopause. Yeah, well, several things. But debunk suggests that it's not true. I didn't have decreased sexual desire. We'll see. But that's me.
Starting point is 00:19:09 So I'm saying when they, or the fact that everyone has hot flashes. There is no, everybody has every one of these things. Yes, yes. My mother had no symptoms. None. I thought I was going to skate through. Yeah, well, I don't take hormones. You do.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I don't know enough about them. I think that's one thing. People, for a long time, it was do not take hormones. You know, they cause cancer. I don't take them. So I don't know. Until what's her name with the breast cancer that came out and wrote a book? And, oh, my brain.
Starting point is 00:19:43 That's part of menopause. No, she wrote, what's her name? I don't know. I didn't read it. I was too busy messing around on the internet, seeing what the micro trends are. I have no idea. Anyway, I just think that menopause looks different for everybody. And the more research you do, the more you learn about it, the more questions you ask, the better off you're going to be.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yes, it's true. It's true. And a lot of people are ignorant. They don't want to. They don't want to know because they're not going to go through menopause. They're just going to skate through that some people's mentality thing that's not going to happen to me. And then it's a train wreck sometimes. And it is a train.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Okay. This next question, what questions? should you be asking yourself if you're unsure marriage is right for you. I have to tell you, I have a young friend, a lot of my friends are younger than I, this particular young lady was here last night. We were having a glass of wine, chit-chatting. And she met her boyfriend when she was 18. She said, Kathy, I listen to your podcast. I love you. You get such great advice. And then she came out with it. do you think that she's now 23, soon to be 24, do you think that I'm too young,
Starting point is 00:20:58 like I should be dating other men because he's the only one I've ever dated. And I was like, I'm two glasses of wine in and, you know, I told her. What was your advice to her? Well, I said there's no right or wrong answer. I met my husband at 18. In general, I can tell you what I said.
Starting point is 00:21:15 In general, I would not advise anyone to date the same guy from 18 and Mariam. But in her case, in my case for sure, and I actually think in her case, we were lucky we met this great guy. Her guy is amazing. And, you know, sometimes God gives you what you need when you're really young.
Starting point is 00:21:38 So there's really no... There wasn't a good answer for that. Yes. But I did tell her, I did say to her, you guys, before they're talking now about moving in. I said, you do. All couples, when you're talking about marriage, you know, it's not just buying the cute little white picket fence house and having the baby and the baby cares. And, of course, getting a doodle something dog. It's also having the conversation about money
Starting point is 00:22:07 and children and who's going to work and how are you going to divide household responsibility. All those things. And I said that to her and I said, have you had any of those conversations? She said no. And I said, well, I'd start having those before I decide to move in. Did she, did you read into that maybe she was curious about dating somebody else? No, she said, I, she said no, that her friends are saying to her, you know, you need to date other men. You're too young. You haven't dated other men. And I said, do you feel like you want to? And she goes, not really. It's just like all my friends say I should. So it makes me wonder, am I doing the wrong thing? You know, that is a dead end question.
Starting point is 00:22:48 For some people, they wake up at 30 and say, what the hell did I do? And other people stay married and are so glad they found their person young. There's no easy answer. Is there anything you think needs? You have to, what questions would you ask yourself if you're unsure marriage is right for you? What advice would you give to that question? like somebody ask yourself what questions? I mean, that's hard for me because I was married,
Starting point is 00:23:20 but I think I think you, I'd have to ask myself, is living with someone else going to make my life better? Am I going to have an enriched life by opening my life up to this other person and bringing them in to my life? Something that comes to my mind, because I've learned over the years, When the, as they say, honeymoon is over, is he everything you want?
Starting point is 00:23:49 It's always so good in the beginning, the first six months to a year. That's the honeymoon. And then you get used to each other's habits and all. Can you live with A, B, and C that he does, or can he live with you that you do, the habits? You've got to look really deep. And it's hard when you're in that honeymoon phase. Right. What you said is he everything you want.
Starting point is 00:24:12 If you find a man that's everything you want, stop the presses and let me know because there are no perfect people. There's no perfect marriage. And do you know what you want? That's another good question. I know what I want and I know what I'm willing to compromise. That's the key. That's the key.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You just said the compromise part because there is no perfect anybody. Yeah. There is not. So I think those are the questions. am I better off with this person? Does he enrich my life or not? And honestly, could I see myself forging a lifelong experience with this person? And how do you feel about if they're not sure about just keeping them as their partner, whether they're living together and they don't have to do the actual marriage? Do you, are you pro or are you against that? I don't, I don't think
Starting point is 00:25:04 you have to be married to have a lifelong partner. Is that what you're asking? Yes. No, of course not. For young people or our age people? Are you thinking about our age? Either or. I will say I'm a bit old-fashioned. If you're going to have children, I think you should be married. I know I'll take flack for saying that, but I believe in the institution of marriage.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And I particularly believe in it if you decide that you're going to bring children into the world. But otherwise, I have no problem. And at our age, I have no problem with the person. I don't necessarily have a problem with marriage either, at my age, but I certainly don't have a problem with a partnership. Is there anything you're tired of seeing women put up with in romantic relationships with men? Ooh, baby, let a rip. How long do we have? Look at the face.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I can't. Just name three. Okay. I can't. I just can't. I can. But I can't. I am tired of seeing women put up with the way their spouse or significant other talk to them.
Starting point is 00:26:26 If they talk to them rude or they talk to their mothers that we've said before, that's called respect. I don't like seeing that when he bosses her or tells her what to do. I've seen it in airports. I've seen it on the beach. like they were having a little tiff or whatever. But the way he's talked, why would you put up with that? Punch him in the face.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I mean, not. No, no, no. No violence. No, no. No violence. I think that this is more of a heady answer to this, but I hate when I see people, couples at any age, and I hear, and it's usually the woman,
Starting point is 00:27:07 saying I gave it my dreams of being blank, fill it in the blank, because my husband wanted this or because we had children and my husband thought I should stay home. Whatever it is, I think that women give up their dreams sometimes too easily. And I think the younger generations, you know, my daughter, my daughter-in-law, they both work and have very successful careers. But I will say to you, when kids are sick, a lot of my friends, I told you, I have a lot of friends with kids, my friends in their 40s, and they are the ones that are staying home with a sick kid, not the husband. So I just hate to see women diminished at any time by anyone.
Starting point is 00:27:55 That would be my short answer to that question. I mean, there's a lot of things we could go on and on, but. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, that is a real, you know what, bookmarked that. we should do a whole episode on it. And you all listening right in the things that you are tired of seeing. Yes, absolutely. Because I'll bet we would get some great answers to that one.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Absolutely. All right. We are going to do a new segment. Tell us about it, Susan. It's called the ins and the outs for 2006. All right. Now, before we go, we're going to give you guys our ins and outs for 26. ins are what we want to see more of, and outs are what we don't want to see this year.
Starting point is 00:28:49 We'll take turns reading our ins and then our outs. I'll start us off. All right. All right. Where's my list? Okay, dokey. I hope it's not too long. This is not a three-hour podcast.
Starting point is 00:29:03 We can't go over ten, okay? All right. Give me your first one. As far as the Golden Bachelor or The Bachelor, I would like to see more one-on-one dates on a show. That's one of my things. Okay, but that's for the show. Yes. Self-care, just for me, power walking, just taking care of me.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I would love. Okay. I'm going to hang you out to dry hair. So you would like to take care of yourself. We're going to do one in one. We're just going to go back and forth here. Okay. So you would like to take better care of yourself, do more walking.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Okay, here's my second PSA for the day. I love you to pieces, but you do what I'm always saying on my videos that I do about working out. You are a weekend warrior. You go out and you do it and you are sore and you're tired and you're like, I couldn't do it. I was too sore. So please, yes, in 26, I want you to be all in with exercise, but you've got to be. start slowly. All right? You want to hear one of my ends? Go ahead. So everyone knows I love to read. I was a writer by training, had several jobs, newspaper writing, a lot of writing in my life.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Here's the oddity. People always give me journals to write in. I have a stack of blank journals. And so one of my ins- And you're the writer. Right. I am going to try to write, to fill up pages in those journals. Even just once a day. Just juts something. Wouldn't he just once a day? I'm thinking once a week. You know what my problem is when I start writing?
Starting point is 00:30:49 I don't stop. I don't stop. It's like, no. I, well, you know what I do when I write, that's, you hit on something. When I write in a journal or write something, because I'm such a grammar queen, I'm like, oh no, I could say that better
Starting point is 00:31:04 and I scratch it on. It's like, just Kathy, just write it down and get out, you know, turn the page. All right, what's your next one? Another one is to listen, but speak my truth. I like that. To everyone? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Okay. When you say speak your truth, what does that mean to you? Speak my truth. If I'm asked a question or an opinion, I'm going to give them the right answer, the real answer. It's my truth. You mean, not the right answer necessarily, but how you really feel about it. The true answer for me. Your true answer, how you feel about it.
Starting point is 00:31:36 feel about. If I'm asked, I'm going to tell the truth. Yeah. Okay. How about you? All right. I, and actually we had talked about this. We had one of the same ones.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yes. I and Susan, we both. No, no, no. We would like to do more in person. Oh, in person. More in person interviews for the podcast because I think that. Wouldn't it be great to have them in the room with us? That's like, do you hear that?
Starting point is 00:32:03 Everybody? Body language. I know our producers aren't listening, but we'll tell them later. But I think there's a difference when you interview someone and you can look them in the eye in person. I know. We see them on the screen, but yeah. But it's different in person.
Starting point is 00:32:20 The feel the vibe. The feel the energy. Exactly. So that's it. That's an in for me. All right. What about you? Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I also have my Irish goodbyes. I like them. It takes 25 extra minutes when you're ready to leave. if you have to stay goodbye to everybody. I mean, normally just the post or something, you sneak out. I'm into Irish Goodbye. Yeah, I never used to me, but I'm learning. I did one the other night, actually.
Starting point is 00:32:48 You did just slip out, you know? Yeah, I was at a party, and I just kind of slipped out. It was great. I liked it. Okay, I've got a simple one here. Okay. I'm demonstrating it right now. Drink more water.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Always, always, always. The inn for me this year, I'm going to try a lot of new restaurants and write reviews on them. You know how much I'm a foodie. I'm thinking why I have not been doing this for so long. Where are you going to write the reviews? A Google. Oh, you mean leave a Google thing. A review on the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah, I thought you meant like, be a restaurant critic. You just mean write a review and leave it on Google for people to see. For other people to try. Yeah, yeah. Oh, God, beware. If Susan doesn't like... Here I come, people. In every state.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Okay, here's another strange one I have. I have people, because they know I love to read, give me books. And because I travel out, I have a Kindle. And so I read a lot of books on my Kindle. So I have a stack of books upstairs. So one of my ins this year is... And I love turning pages, but I don't like logging books through airports. But one of my ins is going to read,
Starting point is 00:34:05 less on the Kindle and have the feel and the weight of a book in my hands and that great feel of the smell of a book and turning the page. Good for you. I prefer the Kindle, but okay. And additionally, I'm going to add in because I was an English major and I loved British literature and American literature. I'm a nerd, a geek, I know it. I want to go back and I don't know, read three or four classics this year. You know, like Gone with the Wind, Lolita, just some of the classics that I haven't read since I was in
Starting point is 00:34:40 school. So changing my readings. And my last one for the ends would be time with friends and family. Oh, I have that one too. Yes, yes. Now let's do our out. Oh, wait, I've got one more. I want to get a couple more. I want to get out on my kayak more because you know
Starting point is 00:34:56 I work out like a fiend, but I want to get out. I own a kayak. I live on the lake. I want to get on my car. The problem is it's a two-man kayak and I can't manage it on my own. So, you know, I want to, I want to, I want to do that. And I also, also want, do you have, do you have, do you have, do you have, do you have, do you have a junk door, Susan? Yes. Is that singular or plural? One, and I organize it every six months. Of course you do. I am trying to reduce my junk drawers to one. That is my end. I am want to have, have one junk drawer.
Starting point is 00:35:35 All right, for the outs. We're going to name a few at a time, okay? All right. You want to start? Oh, I got a few. Okay. We'll do three, six, nine, okay. Okay, my most serious, well, my most serious one is I am going to, out for me, is trying
Starting point is 00:35:53 to tell others how to live their lives and how they can make their lives better. If they want to live drama, let them live the drama. I'm going to get out my box of popcorn and just watch it, watch the whole thing evolve. Okay. How about another one? Well, and a funny one is, I want to stop worrying about my hair. Oh, God. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I'm tired of worrying about my hair. What about you? Okay. I am over the word tea. Like, give me the tea, titty tea. I'm sick of hearing tea. That's all. Susan, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Wait a minute. this is not my list but let's talk about it do you know one i'm going to imitate do you know one of the words that first of all i have two things using me when you mean i i want to just jump through you know jump over i always say i and you go me yeah and you say me when you mean i but that's a whole other we'll give a grammar lesson another on another you know episode the other word that tries it wasn't on my list but now it is because you had to bring up yours like Like, I really feel like, it's like, younger generation. Stop using the word.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Okay, there are words. I also, an out for me is the spur of the moment online purchases, which is. Oh, God. Susan, are you trying to put Amazon out of business? And stop taking online criticism personally. Uncomfortable shoes, overpriced coffee, tipping without getting. getting a service. Have you been to the store? And I wanted gratuity. What do you mean? You didn't help me. I brought it to you to ring up. That's your job. And they want to take. Give me an example. Give me an example.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I just did. What? Listen. You said going and bringing something. Like give me an example. You're going to a store. You're purchasing something. You go get it yourself. You bring it to the counter. And they want to know if you want to tip. Their job is to bring it up. Oh, please. Yes. It happens a lot. I, I, um, I thought you meant not tipping for. bad service. No, no, no, no. I'm just going to go through the rest of mine, then you could do yours. Okay. Vegan leather. Okay? What's wrong? What are you going to do? Kill animals? Astronomical. There is no vegan leather. It's not leather. It's plastic.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Leather is leather. So what does that mean you're going back to leather? I am also out with less than eight hours of sleep and people pleasing all the time. And my last but not least, stop trying to do it all and the power of saying no. Wow. I can't wait. How about yours? Let me hear you. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I got some questions on yours. Oh, God. You can't question mine. They're mine. No, no, no. I don't understand. When you see out with vegan leather, does that mean you're going to wear real leather? I, yes.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Okay. I prefer. I don't believe that I have to pay what I would pay for real leather when it's not really leather. They're calling it vegan leather. There's no such thing. Well, it's plastic. Leather is leather. Do you like paying $400 for a pair of vegan pants that not really leather? I don't buy $400 a vegan pants.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And one more question. Does this mean you're not going to wear fake fur? You're going to buy the real mint coat? I don't wear a fake fur. Okay. Don't tell anyone that you're going to get paint on your coat next time you're in New York City. Good. Okay. I am, I'm out with leaving my clothes. unhung in my closet. I'll come in there sometimes. I just throw them on the chair and that's, that's got to end. I got to clean up that closet. Right after I finish my junk doors, I'm going to head into my closet. After she makes her coffee. After I have some freshly grabbed coffee that took me
Starting point is 00:39:46 two hours to make. All right. Move along. Katz. Okay. Then I, um, so, spending so much time on social media. I want to enjoy the minute I'm living through my eye, the lens of my eye, not the lens of my iPhone. And that's a big one for me. That's good. And then my last one is, speaking of micro, whatever they are, micro fashion, I am sick to death. We talked about it. Short rompers. And it's not because I can't wear them. They are out for me because should I decide to wear a short romper or a long romper. You can't pee in them. It's too hard. I do not by taking my clothes off. Can you just pull them aside? No, absolutely. No. And I'm not having my clothes on the floor in a public bathroom. So short rompers of all sorts. Rompers of all sorts are out for me. Wait, you didn't like the one with
Starting point is 00:40:44 uncomfortable shoes. I'm so over. Uncomfortable shoes. I don't wear uncomfortable shoes. Susan, I've never, I'm from Boston. We wear sensible oxfords. No, you don't. We do not wear, I mean, I don't have what's it called on the side of your foot? You have one. What are they called? A bunion. A bunion. Get rid of the, you wear a bunion.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Because we wear heels and pumps. I did hair and was a flight attendant for years and had to wear heels. Nowadays, the flight attendants, they wear ugly shoes. Can I just tell you the, can I just tell you the career that's going by the wayside because everyone wears sneakers. Now sneakers used to be, what's wrong with him? He's got sneakers on. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Now it's cool, cool, cool. I wear it with a gown. Pediatrists are screwed. I know, right. No one's got any feet problems anymore. Oh, that was fun. Yeah, that was fun. That really was fun.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Okay. You know, we have a lot of ins and outs, but friendship is definitely an end with you, my dear. Always, always. Okay, thanks so much to our listeners. We hope you enjoy this as much as we did. Please make sure you're sending us your questions. It's very easy to do.
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