Bachelor Happy Hour - Mental Health Matters | Golden Hour

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re tackling a big topic in this Fan Questions episode — mental health. We kick things off with Kathy’s thoughts on mental health as she taps into her experience of losing her husband. Next, we get into the question of the day: What has it been like seeing the world evolve on this topic and how did you manage your mental health when you were younger? And, of course, we get into your questions about mental health. From parents who don’t understand mental illnesses to teaching kids how to regulate their emotions, we’re here to help. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. Today's episode contains talks of mental health, including addiction, suicide, and depression. If you or a loved one is struggling with their mental health, please reach out to a mental health professional or a crisis hotline. Listener's discretion is advised.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members

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on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This episode contains discussions about mental health, including topics such as depression, anxiety and suicide. Please take care while listening and consider skipping this episode if you're not in a place to engage with these topics. If you or someone you know is struggling, please reach out to a mental health professional or contact a crisis line. And one more thing before we

dive in, I just wanted to say on a personal note, when my husband took his life, a lot of people asked me how he did it, why he did it. Did he leave a note? Was he depressed? None of those things are really important other than to say that leaving behind a family, he left me behind three children, a mother, siblings. It is the hardest thing I've ever had to deal with in my life. people often ask me if he was depressed and all I can say is of course he was depressed the sad part is I didn't see how depressed he was and for someone to take their life you know if you're happy and life is going well you're enjoying life you're not looking for a way to exit this earth so um think about that the next time someone you know has or a family friend or whatever has

has to deal with suicide, it always involves depression. And I wish I had reached out for help. And if I had known the severity of it, I would, would have done that. So, you know, I try to make light of it sometimes when people ask me and I say, you know, if you're unhappy in life, most people, they'll go out and buy a sports car, they'll have an affair, they'll go buy a fancy watch or take an expensive trip. People don't think that people are going to take their life when they're unhappy. And it's such a different diagnosis. If you're diagnosed with cancer or, you know, a blood disease that takes your life, suicide is very different because you choose to take your life and leave the people that loved you and cared about you. So I just needed to say that before we

get going on this episode today. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us today. We're so excited to be back with another episode today. We absolutely are. Today we're going to be answering more of our fan questions. So make sure, guys, that you're still submitting them because we love breathing them, talking about them,

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You can also DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. And people are starting to do that, Kath. I've noticed. Yeah. Okay. All right. It's time to get into the episode. And we're going to start with our favorite part,

the question of the day. Okay, before we do that, can I just say this, you know, Susan, you know me, I'll laugh a minute, love to make jokes, but this episode, and for all y'all listening, this is a very close to home subject for me. Mental health is what we're going to be talking about in this episode, and you all know my husband died by suicide, which is right up the alley of mental health issues. So for me, this is going to hit a little close to home, but we're going to do it. And I hope that this episode is going to help a lot of people struggling with these kinds of issues. So go ahead and start us off with the question of the day.

Absolutely, Kathy. What has it been like seeing how society has evolved when it comes to mental health? How did you manage your mental health when you were younger? okay so the first thing i would say is society has evolved social media has caused a lot of difficulties for people for many reasons people seeing the life they want to live or feeling phone feeling foam like everyone else has a great life but i don't so much of social media is the life you wish you are living not really the life you are living or just posting about the best things in your life and nobody's life is perfect all the time. I think that's part of the problem.

I think the other thing is that we are seeing so much more mental illness in society. We see many more homeless people than when I was growing up. People who have drug and alcohol issues. All of those are issues that come under the umbrella of mental health. And I just think we see more of it. Why? I don't know. I think the world has become a more complex place to live. I do believe, though, that society is more aware of mental health. I mean, look at the shootings at the schools and all the things that have happened in the last decade. More people acknowledge

and realize mental health is a huge thing. And if you feel like somebody in your family, needs help you get help also as far as social media there are things out there to help people you know well so that are struggling so you know and i've said this before um when and i know this is not necessarily a popular thought but it it is my husband's gone been gone for almost six years and I still hold this to be true. When you have someone who's threatening suicide and they say call a suicide hotline, somebody who's decided to take their life is going to do it.

Maybe not today. I think when they call those hotlines, it's a cry for help sometimes. Yes, but sometimes they're not there. So I think it takes a lot of money, effort, resources to deal with mental health. Mental health, like I said, is the big umbrella. And I don't think, this is just my opinion, I don't think our society spends enough. And maybe there's lots of reasons for that. But I don't think we spend enough on mental health.

And that's why I think kids today have a tougher world than we had. They have a lot more pressure. When I was growing up, I'd never heard of some things like bipolar and people that are medicated. and then they feel like they shouldn't take the medicines. They don't like the way they feel. Autism as another one that I didn't hear of as a child. Well, autism isn't a mental health issue. That's a, yeah.

But your point is well taken. That things that alcohol and drug issues are either more prevalent today or they're just out in the open more today. Yes, much more. Either way. Yes. But either way, to address these issues, you know, when you take someone and you, you, you throw them in jail, really, it's not, they're not criminals. They have mental health issues.

So it's, you know, you and I aren't about to solve this problem today. But I think when I was younger, you know how I managed my mental health? I truly played a lot of sports. I read a lot. I kind of the same things I do now, frankly. You know, I exercised. I read. I hung out with friends.

But I think the competition is so much stronger today. Yes, it is. And social media. I mean, that's a huge. If you feel like you're not important on social media, then you're nobody. It's sad with what people. Well, and the other thing I think that affects, I mean, there's so many things.

We could do it. We could write a book, literally. But the isolation that kids feel today behind their computers, their screens all the time. I think that affects people's mental health. It does. It does. I'm looking forward to hearing what some of our fans wrote in for this. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly.

I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you're giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them,

two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The Teriffs! And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo, to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from the Spolitics podcast to keep it a whole century. The American public is used to being entertained.

We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them, and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself.

My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house.

So what do you get when a true crime producer was? walks into a comedy club, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford, and in session 421 of therapy for black girls, I sit down with Dr. Ophia and Billie Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal.

Because I think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled. You talk about the important role hairstylists play in our community,

the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually. free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans

say to you privately, that they won't say publicly. Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives, knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to

Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, well, let's get to it then. Okay. You want to start? All right, here we go. The first question is from Anonymous. ladies, I really need your help. I'm 19 and my mom does not understand mental health. I've always struggled with what I now know is severe anxiety and OCD. I only recently got a diagnosis. It's been life-changing, but it's still very much an uphill battle trying to manage it. I could really use my mom's support, but she thinks it's all made up, which I find really hurtful. I've even allowed my psychiatrist to contact her and talk her through my diagnosis and she still

just doesn't get it. For example, my brother has ADHD and all she says is if you wanted to focus, you would. How do I get her to understand? I really need all the support I can get right now. My dad is on my side but won't even try to get through to her. Thanks, ladies. Wow. So 19. I mean, that is a tough age right there that is and her mom just doesn't get it when she blames her for for things I think the mom gets it exactly I think the mom is in denial no well I don't know I don't know her but I think um she looks in the mirror and thinks her kids have these problems because of some way she failed her children that's what I feel guilty about she feels guilty that she somehow caused these things and

And I think parents sometimes... I mean, I've said it to my kids, if you want to focus. You've got to pay attention. You've got to pay attention. And here, two of them had a learning disability. Right. And until I went and had them tested and met with the school people, I understood it. And I felt terrible.

I think... My daughter was dyslexic. She was reading back. Why aren't you getting this, Brittany? She couldn't explain it. Again, the issue of mental health dyslexicel dyslexia, ADHD, these are all, well, dyslexia is educational, neurological, and OCD and these behaviors come from, you know, different situations in life. The point is this girl

that we're talking about has a psychiatrist and needs her mom. And if the psychiatrist can't get through the mom, I think the mom does know. I think she just can't face it sometimes, which again makes it really tough on the child because teenagers in this day and age need a lot of support. And I think lean on your dad more than your mom. You're not going to convince her yourself and it's only going to upset her.

So let your dad in. Well, he said my dad is on my side but won't even try to get through to her. You know what I would say to you, Anonymous? I would lean on your friends. I know it's tough. I would find teachers, school counselors, Someone at church, I would find people that can support you.

We all want our parents to be great supporters. Sometimes they just can't be. How about some reading material and pamphlets on what it is and have her read them. Denial is not not understanding. It's denying. And that's like you said in the beginning, maybe she feels some certain way that my children have this. Could it have come from me? Right.

So that's what I'm saying. I don't think she's denying it. I think she can't face it because she's blaming herself. The mom's blaming herself. But, sweetie, I hate that you're feeling not supported. So I would really encourage you. We all want our parents to support us, but sometimes they just can't. So you need to find some people who will.

Find the people that will support you. And let us know, hoping, you know, hoping you're on the right medication, hoping that you feel better and teenagers are tough. It will get easier as you get older. It will. Okay. Thank you. Another anonymous, hi, Kathy and Susan.

I need some help with my son. He's 14 and really struggles with trying to regulate his stress or his emotions. He has so many outbursts and fights with me and my husband constantly. is this really just what teenagers are like? I have no idea how to talk to him. I've tried to encourage him seeing a therapist or use his time at the gym to get his stress out. But it always results in him shutting down

and locking himself in his room. What do I do? Thanks so much. So again, this for me... Professional, I think he needs... This, mom, you need to take charge here he's 14 teenage you're right on all counts yes anonymous it is teenagers it is teenagers however that doesn't mean that he doesn't need help it doesn't mean um that he's going to be fine and he's going to outgrow it um again we susan and i are not there has some serious

issues that he might need medication or at least somebody to medically to assess him. Right. So when she says, I've been tried to encourage him and see a therapist anonymous. No, no, no. You are the parent.

You make the appointment with a therapist. You pick your son up from school. You take him into the office. And you know what? He may sit there and clam up and say nothing to this man or woman, whoever the therapist is for two or three weeks. But eventually, once he feels like he can trust the person

and that's what they're trained to do is get kids trust. What I wouldn't do is do nothing. That's what I wouldn't do. Absolutely not. I mean, it would be full-blown depression. It could have anger issues. I mean, you don't know. We're not doctors.

People study this and they know. You know, I said this was a hard topic for me. I will say teenagers love them. I have three of them. They can be total pains in the ass and on them. But having said that, you can't always chalk up a child's behavior to being a pain in the ass teenager. Once again, don't assume. Yeah, I'd get some help for him and don't ask him if he wants to go.

You know, take him. You're the parent, be the parent, take charge. And you want to do it now because he's 14. If you wait till 18, you don't know what happens. No, sweetie, if you wait to 18, if you wait till 18, you have no control. They are legal adults. You can't force them to do anything. Exactly.

Okay. Let's go to a question. Our next question is from another anonymous. Hi, Susan and Kathy. I have no idea where to start and I need help. I just found out that my husband has been living a secret life. He has another family across the country in the city where he has his quarterly conferences, if those are even real.

He has a fiancé and a son with this other woman. I found out after snooping through his laptop following my gut that something was off now he has no idea that I know what do I do next thanks ladies Susan do not get your baseball bat out that's so hurtful

oh my God you have to sit them down and let him know you know I mean I'm not the one that's going to blame you know what I would do that woman doesn't know either I'm certain you need to Sit him down. It's over.

I can tell you that. Well, I'm not, I'm, that's, that's, you know, that's white and black. Well, no, what I would do, if it were me, I would go to a therapist. And I would explain to the therapist what's happened and ask a therapist, how's the best way to handle it? Because I would be angry, hurt, all of the things. and I wouldn't trust myself to sit down in a calm way. And furthermore, you don't know what his reaction is going to be. You don't know what's going to happen when you tell him.

So I might, I don't know, I'm just saying that could be a very volatile situation. So I would, I might say, you know, Johnny, whatever your husband's name is, I'm having an issue. I'm having an issue. and I would like you to come with me to talk to a therapist about it. Well, you know, I would try to get him into a therapist's office and have a third party break the news and have conversation in the office. That's what I would do.

I would fly the girl in and say, let's the three of us talk. Are you serious? I'm dead serious. Oh, my God. I swear to God, I could never be Italian ever. Because I swear, I mean, I could never do half the stuff you see. saying you're Italian so I don't know I mean nip it in the butt of course she she hasn't told him that she knows so that's very strong of her right now because you react

and she has it she's sleeping with this she's thinking about it that hopefully she has time to find her calm and accept what's happening but for me that marriage is over okay see I can't even get there. I'm, I, I, her choice of words, he has a fiancee. No, no, darling. He has a wife and a concubine. She's not a fiance because he's married to you. So you cannot have two wives. The fact that he has a child with her, I have to be honest, anonymous, you are not the first wife who has a husband. Can I just, this is a tough episode. Can I just lighten it when I lived in Houston. my dentist, there were, I'm not going to mention their names, there were two players on the Houston Rockets basketball team. I'm sorry, one player on the Houston Rockets team who had two wives, two families living in Houston.

I didn't know it, but one day I was in the dentist office and the wife number one is there with her kids. And all of a sudden, I'm in the chair and I hear this commotion, who did that? Get him out of here. Like, I'm like, I was getting scared. I said, I was kind of friends with my hygienist. So she said to me, it's his other family that they have strict instructions to never book them. They knew each other existed to never book them on the same day. So they walk in, they were on the waiting room.

I almost choked on the toothpaste. I had to walk out. Can I tell you the receptions that booked them? She was fired on the spot for. Everybody, I mean, so it happens is my point. Yes, it does. But whether the friends that found out they had children from somebody else. Exactly.

So whether your marriage is over or not, it's immaterial until you two can focus on the break in trust and his lack of integrity and blah, blah, blah, all of those important things. But I think you need professional help to deal with that. I don't think that's something you tackle on your own. that depends on who she is and how strong of a woman she is you know how bad yeah if you're not going to fly off the handle and then kill them i mean i think it's really tough and anonymous i'm so sorry yeah we're sorry i know we're sorry let us know let us know what happens the fact that your gut was telling you something was off it's probably been going on a whole lot longer than you think it has and you know what there might be another one i mean he might just be a

a profly, what's, you know, just a, he's got women in every town, whatever. So, figure it out. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just,

water gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person

to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts.

You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your Theo and them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs!

And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week we decided to shoot our shot, And boy, did we pull up from the logo to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. It's in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed.

from a very rural background myself my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin so like it's not what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke but that really was my reality nine years ago

I just normally do straight stand-up but this is a bit different on stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear 22nd of July 2015 a 23 year old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house.

So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, and in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls, I sit down with Dr. Athea and

Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right, in terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair, right, that this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled. We talk about the important role hairstylists play in our community, the pressure to always look put together,

and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss Session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind.

But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, Kathy, instead of a game today, we want it to end off this episode a little more lighthearted. Oh, thank goodness. This was a tough one. So we're going to be just answering some questions about us and our friendship. So you all can get to know us a little bit better. And we're going to switch off reading the questions, but we'll both answer every one of them. Okay?

I'm going to start us off. What's a fond memory you have from when you first became a parent? Oh, for me, it was holding my first son, my first child for the very first time, looking at my husband and realizing we created this beautiful human being. I'll never forget it. Mine was a daughter, and that's exactly right. It was in that hospital. We're looking how beautiful.

And she was perfect in their hair, and she had 10 fingers and 10 toes. We did this. We did this. And you know, Susan, I remember my oldest son was born 10 days early and he was a four-step delivery. So he was red and, you know, and I still laugh about this. When he came out, I said, oh, my God, he's the most beautiful baby. I feel so sorry for parents who had have a beautiful child. I thought I went back and looked at the picture and he was born.

Oh, my God, he was the most, he looked like something the cat dragged in. That was my Christopher, who's only three pounds. I go, oh, my God, he looks like a chicken. Yeah, but I didn't say that. I just thought, anyway, being a parent, especially for the first time, what a good. All right. If you could give your 30-year-old self one piece of advice, what would it be? Trust your instincts.

That's a good one. mine would be you got a lot of life left to live in brain every minute don't sweat the small stuff all right what's a passion or hobby you picked up after turning 50

dating golfing to play golf no I was kidding about dating oh a passion oh a pickle ball boxing I couldn't stick with it too long Boxing. I didn't know. Those two for sure. Definitely not cooking. I can tell you that.

All right. What's one misconception? Oh, oh, I. You and I have the same answer on this. We're going to have the same answer. What's one misconception people often have about women in their 60s? They think we're done. We're never done. Oh, mine is more specific. that women over 60 don't like sex. That is a misconception. Oh, my God, yeah. Sorry. Are you kidding me?

It's better in 60 than it was at 40. I mean, that's just funny. I think, yeah, I think people don't understand women in their 60s unless they date one or are married to one. Okay. All right. What's your proudest accomplishment that no one ever asked? to see you about. You know what?

Well, back to the serious nature of this thing, I came from a pretty abusive family, not pretty, very abusive. My mother was very abusive. But people, if they don't know it. Yeah, why would they ask? So the people that don't know, my friends know. But my proudest accomplishment is that I didn't fall into the abusive trap and abuse my children the way she abused me.

I was a really good parent. I wasn't a perfect parent. My kids will tell you. But my kids know they're loved and cared for it. So that's my proudest accomplishment. All right. What's something about your co-hosts? Excuse me.

What's your proudest accomplishment? Well, it's not my proudest accomplishment that nobody ever asked. everybody has always asked whatever I've done. I've never had nobody not ask. If they didn't ask, you were willing to tell them. All right. They don't know. I'm going to tell them what it is.

All right. Go on. What's something about your co-host? That would be me. That would surprise new listeners. I don't want to say it. I'll tell you later. No, it's not a bad thing.

just, you know, it's, I don't think you'd want listeners to know it. Let me think I can come up with a light one here. I have something about you. What's something about you that would surprise new listeners. She's definitely not as hard as she seems sometimes.

She's got a huge heart. Thank you. What I was going to say is that Susan is that people always say you're kind and easygoing and lovely, and you are all those things, but you're not as easy going as people think you are. Am I right? No, you're not,

that's not an insult. I'm saying you like things done a certain way. Oh, come on. As far as I keep my house and things. No, just in general, like you are, you come across. I'm a type A. Yes, you're type A. People think of you. Oh, I love, people say me all the time, I love Susan. She's a go with the flow girl. Do you think new listeners wouldn't know that about made. I think new, I think most people think you are, and you are fun and jovial and have a big heart and love to live and live life big. But you also like things.

And I don't tolerate ignorance and I don't tolerate. You like, you like things structured and regimented some. I just think people would be surprised to know that. Okay. All right. If you had to describe your co-host in three words, what would they be? Go ahead. You want to go first?

Okay, funny, direct, and kind. Oh, okay, those are, I actually think those are fair. I would say for you, bubbly, I would also say kind and empathetic. Oh, that's a curse, yes. You are. Sometimes too much. But before, though, all right, we're going to keep going here. What's the biggest difference between you two?

And what's one thing you're weirdly similar about? I mean, the biggest difference right now is Susan has a boyfriend and I don't, but we're going to remedy that. To me, the biggest differences, I love food. I like to cook. I enjoy. I live to eat. And Kathy is the pulse.

her opposite. She doesn't care. She doesn't cook and everything tastes the same. It's beyond me. That's true. Although I do like to go out for a nice meal, Susan. I do. But what are we weirdly similar about how important friendships are? Yes. How we have each other's back. Yes. And how important people are in our life. And I honestly think we're both very empathetic. Yes. Okay. All right. Go ahead. What's a memorable moment you two have shared that made you realize you had a special connection. How much time do we have?

I was just going to say, oh my God, there's been some funny ones, like the date in Florida when you made me go with you, the date in St. Martin when you met Frederica, made me go with you. Because you got to speak French, Spanish, and English. Yeah. I mean, I think anybody who will go with you. When I joined you as your guest for your son's wedding. Yep. Well, you officiated it.

That was memorable. That was very memorable. I would say we're getting ready to take a cruise. That's going to be a lot of memorable moments there. Next week we'll talk about that. Yeah. Okay. What's your favorite drink to have at a nice bar or restaurant?

Oh, Kathy, let me tell. Let's answer it for each other. It's dirty water. No, ranch water. I drink ranch water, which is tequila soda and lime. Or I'll drink vodka. Susan is a grandmangier girl. She will drink red wine.

No. She'll drink red wine. I know, I know you. And sometimes a martini, a French martini. Yeah, sometimes a seven, what are you called? What's a seven, six, eight or something? What are they called? That's Jones.

That's Jones. Oh, whatever. Yes. All right. What's a belief or opinion you owe? What's a belief or opinion you've changed your mind about over the years? I know mine. What's yours?

Hooking up. What about it? I now know what it really means. I used to think it was just, you know, hanging out kissing somebody. It's sex, and I had no idea. So I've changed my opinion. I think I, French, you know, that thing is called a French 75. I just came to me.

Yes. That's what it's called a French 75. Okay. I think, I'm not sure that I've changed my belief. I've just become a lot softer and a lot more understanding. and tolerant of people's opinions. I think when I was younger, you know, I was, I know the right way it should be.

Now I'm like, I'm tolerant. People, you're entitled to your belief, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to convince somebody that I'm right. I'm right for me, maybe not for them. That's right. What's something you're still learning about yourself even now?

I think, I think just how I can be the best version of myself every day and other people see it. I don't know. What would you say? What I'm still learning about me is I've always been okay with me and never realized it. And I'm learning how I can be okay with who I am. Yeah. I guess. Okay.

Oh, wait, I have to say, well, I'm sorry to interrupt. It just heard of me. You triggered me when you said that. I think I'm learning that I am stronger than I ever thought I was. And still learning that I can still grow, be stronger, and have a soft side to me too. I agree with that. What does success mean to you today compared to when you were younger? I think when we were younger, it was about having a great career making money,

having the expensive toys or the nice toys or the nice trips. What does success mean to you today? Just what it always has. You succeed? Do you go try to do something and you succeed at it? That's what it is. I don't think it's changed. For me, success today means what we alluded to earlier.

Seeing my children be good human beings give back to their community, it makes me realize that I was a successful parent. It's not about accumulation anymore. It's about passing the torch to my kids. All right. What's a risk? Oh, if you don't know how to answer this one, Susan. What's a risk you took that paid off in ways you never expected?

I want you to think There's only one answer here Oh dear Can I answer it for you Open in my heart up for Frederique What's a risk you took Let me be a little more clear for you

For the rest of the world Going to meet a man In a bar in a strange country That you didn't speak the same language And open it up and doing it And you fell in love That is a big risk And it paid off in which

you'd never expected. You have a man you love in St. Martin. What's a risk I took? Going to the bar with you, hoping he had a brother. And he didn't. It didn't pay off. Okay. What legacy are feeling do you hope listeners walk away with after each episode?

My feeling is I hoped every time that we help whoever sent in these questions and the people that we have on, our guests that come and chat with us, that we made them feel good and proud of who they are. Yeah, I agree with all that. And I would... You and I got to have a few laughs. Yeah, we left, but I would add that people, maybe the exception of this episode, which is still very important,

people walk away feeling entertained and happy. We brought some joy, laughter into their life for the half hour. And maybe they got some good advice. They got to know us better. They had some fun, you know, without, it didn't cost them anything but turning on there. But I want to say that, and that's valuable, right? I want to say, though, before we wrap this up, you know, mental health is unfortunately still somewhat of a taboo subject. It's better than it used to be.

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