Bachelor Happy Hour - Michelle & Nayte Discuss Their Exciting Next Chapter!

Episode Date: December 22, 2021

Michelle and Nayte are in love and engaged! This week on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” the happy couple stops by to chat all about their new life together and plans for the future.  They discus...s what life has been like since their engagement in Mexico, what it means to them to be the first couple of color to come out of “The Bachelor” or “The Bachelorette,” and how they found such a natural connection in such an unnatural environment. Plus, they explain the special backstory behind their first “I love you” and share when they are planning to get married!  Then, in a hilarious round of The Newly Engaged Game, Michelle and Nayte reveal their goofy sides and show just how well they truly know each other.  “Bachelor Happy Hour” has exclusive interviews every week. Watch “The Bachelorette” on ABC and listen to “Bachelor Happy Hour” the next morning.  Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.  See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:56 And we just have to cover everything from that amazing finale and after. the final rose. That's right. You guys, Michelle's journey is officially come to an end and her and Nate are fatfully in love and we are so excited to have them here today. I cannot wait. And Tasha, each week, we always do a quick little recap, but let's just, let's just cross it out because I just want to bring on the happy couple. I want to see the ring. I want to see the smiles. I have to also say, I mean, everyone from this franchise is, of course, beautiful and stunning, but they might be one of the hottest couples I have ever seen
Starting point is 00:02:31 come out of The Bachelor or Bachelorette. I definitely stare at them when I watch them on television like how is it possible? Like actually in their babies, God, I don't want to start talking about babies already but like, Lord Jesus, I better be an aunt. And they probably should name when their children Tasha, just saying.
Starting point is 00:02:45 But I think it's time to have them on the show because I have so many questions. I want to know if there's a date. I want to know if they're living together soon. I want to know if Nate knows how to express I want to know all of it. So here we go. All the things.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Bring them on. I'm so sad. I was not able to be there last night. But hi, guys. Welcome to Happy Hour. We are so pumped that you were both here finally. You guys, I've been waiting for this moment. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yes, too. Yeah, it's nice. This is nice. Okay. Well, Nate and Michelle, you guys are actually in the same room together. Yeah. Being on camera and this together recording, being able to talk about your relationship freely. Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Future Mr. and Mrs. Olaquoia. Oh, you nailed it right there. How are you guys doing? Right. I mean, it's been a whirlwind for sure. Going through this, I feel like you can kind of prepare yourself as much as possible. And as it unfolds, like you can continue to try to, you know, prepare yourself. But, man, we learned how to communicate, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. Mm-hmm. believe me it's we've all been there becca and i so don't worry about it it's nothing new but you guys have done an amazing job this far so well welcome to the club this is exciting if anyone understands just the weird transition that you go from filming to then being in this weird secluded hiding space now to being able to shout names from the rooftop tasha and i get it we're so thrilled. What has that, what is that part been like for you to where you can't even, or I guess now you can, but you couldn't even say each other's names in public to make it seem like your
Starting point is 00:04:35 boyfriend and girlfriend. Yeah. Flash fiancés. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, I mean, what I did, because I mean, Michelle and I are obviously always texting. So I actually have her name in my phone backwards. So it's like Elysium Noi or whatever. And so that was, that was, kind of funny but that's like one of the like examples of like you really like it's just it's just you have to wait until you can actually be out in the public to to talk about stuff like this so like nobody really knows people can don't can't tell who I'm texting unless they read everything backwards so yeah that's just like one of the examples like just really excited that now um we don't have to do weird things like putting each other's names in our phones backward you know
Starting point is 00:05:20 wait Michelle what was your nickname for Nate oh There's a kissy face. It's just like, you know, like the kissy face emoji? Oh, yes. Okay, got it. Oh, that's it. The kiss of the lips, yeah. Yeah, no, what's going to be real.
Starting point is 00:05:36 What's my real name in your phone? Let the people know. Let's have a picture know. Okay, it's kind of an inside joke, but his, okay, there is a kissy face, but before that it's red because everybody calls him the watching red flag. So I just nicknamed him my red, you know? I like that. Red's a good color. It's a sexy color. No, it really.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Slat. Joke about, yes, his name is, his name's red. Just because, I mean, hey, that first time going through, like, this man was falling in love. He was talking to his family about all of his emotions for the first time ever. You are in the situation where you're talking about your feelings. Like, I remember me going through that. That was not easy, let alone for somebody who normally doesn't do that regardless. And so, definitely times where, like, I wanted to ask for clarification.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And we kind of joked about it after, like, that finale on that day. So I was like, Nate, sometimes like, wait, is this what you meant or is this what you meant? He's like, that is not what I meant. I'm not that kind of person. I'm like, fought it. So we kind of just like started to laugh and joke about it and just the fact of like, you know, like I'm learning how to communicate through this. He's learning how to communicate to this. but yeah it's definitely
Starting point is 00:06:54 I'm not walking listen people it's funny because he's not a red flag I think if he actually was a red flag I probably wouldn't do that well just like the height the red flag you know what I feel like anybody could sort you out through like your height alone
Starting point is 00:07:13 so that's the red flag we're all like talking about Nate if it makes you feel any better my boyfriend Thomas was considered a huge red flag on the past season of The Bachelorette, too. And I was like, fuck it. Red's my favorite color. I'm just going to own it. And people are going to say whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Just tune them out. And it sounds like you have been making a joke about it and can just laugh it off. And that's really all you can do at this point. It's, we'll get you and Thomas together and really give people something to talk about. I want to know, kind of playing into the fact that now you can say to other's names in public, you can go outside. and go grocery shopping and hold hands and everyone can now see who, Michelle, you ended up with ultimately. It's one thing for you too to be able to feel those things together, but I'm sure your families who are so thrilled and excited and have probably been, you know, bottling this up
Starting point is 00:08:08 so hard inside too since you got back from the show from filming, how have they, you know, been able to contain their excitement? It sounds like the families are hitting it off. So give us a little bit more of the family and how they're doing and how they want to welcome you both to their families. I think one of my favorite parts about this entire thing is just even going through the process, Nate and I were constantly talking about what type of family we wanted in the future, what we wanted for our families together like after this. And I think the best part is that everything that we talked about and everything that we kind of put in place, it's, that's the direction it's going. And so like our moms, our moms talk all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Me and his siblings and vice versa and just like being able to truly feel supported by both of our families. And it's it's just been really nice that we can now really like truly all embrace that together and all be together. Because obviously we were going back and forth and able to see each other like here and there. But now our families can actually be together too. Michelle and my sister like FaceTime each other all the time. like it's a sister has like another big sister now so it's nice i love that bringing the families together it's so difficult during that time of like being kind of in hiding you feel like you're kind of living this double life and your parents can't even kind of chime in that with you but now
Starting point is 00:09:38 that everything's out in the open because i'm sure are going to make so many memories and be able to spend this new year like really getting to know each other have family parties and all that kind of stuff but I'm really dying to know what the kids think. Have the kids, weren't the kids able to ever guess that you were in love and you had found somebody or were they on to you? I have to have a feeling that they did, like, catch them at some point. Honestly, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I feel like we, I really did not open the floor too much to have them be able to talk about it because then that's just like, that's a black hole going down that. but I will say that, you know, they're excited. Nate's tall. They asked about his height. Fifth grade, like the boys are like, whoa, and the girls are like, oh.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I'm excited for the day where, like, he gets to come in and, I don't know, teach him something. I wanted to, you know, the majority of my life, like, once I gave up on, like, basketball NBA dreams, which you guys all saw how that happened. How old are you, Nate? Please enlighten us. When was that? Great? Or when did you give up on your basketball NBA dreams? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Probably a really young age. Like, what, like three? Like, two, three? Or what was? I completely hung up, you know? The air balling every shot. I took. No, no, that is, that is going to be something fun. Like, if that is something that can be done for me to come in, meet the kids, and, you know, teach, I don't know, maybe, like,
Starting point is 00:11:22 class or something, that'd be really cool because I did want to be a teacher. My mom's a teacher. My stepmom's a teacher. My auntie's a teacher. A lot of teachers in my family. And I went to business route, but I did start my college career, I guess, going as a, going the route to be a teacher. Then I just switched, like, halfway through. Oh. Oh, wow. That's incredible. I'm just picturing Nate walking into this. I just remember elementary schools. You know, everything is so small, like watching Nate walk in.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like, is your head even going to fit through the doorways? Like, picturing you at these little tiny desks. Not that fifth graders aren't tiny by any means, but compared to you, they would be. That actually leads me to my next question because, Michelle, before you ever left for filming, you and I actually went out, grabbed lunch or dinner, talked about, you, your future goals. And I think at that point you had mentioned, you know, you still wanted to stay with your career. You potentially wanted to become a principal. And last night, you shared some big news with the world that Nate has plans to move to Minnesota and that you two are
Starting point is 00:12:27 looking to buy a house, which is so exciting to begin with. So Nate, I'm also from Minnesota. So you picked a good state. Just bundle up in the wintertime. You will enjoy the holidays. Let me tell you what. But what is, how is that going? And what is that like now, you know, getting ready to move and to go house hunting and next steps in Minnesota? Well, we started that a while ago. But it's something to really look forward to, right? Like, I'm excited to be moving.
Starting point is 00:12:57 You know, Austin has been the fun for the last two years, but I'm always for the adventure. And honestly, like being only a seven-hour drive from my home city, all my childhood friends, my whole family, that's something that families are looking forward to, right? Because, yeah, like, we're just so close. Like a seven-hour drive is nothing, right? So it's across the border, and now we're in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:13:19 My family can come down, hang out with Michelle's family at any time they want. It's close. So we're looking forward to this. So you're used to the cold. Yeah, because he's from Winnipeg. So honestly, it's a breeze. Minnesota's a breeze compared to that. Yeah, Winnipeg is cold.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And I actually, I already did look because, you know, I'm not a fan of being cold. That's my lesson. I guess on average, Winnipeg is like a solid 10 degrees. colder than Minnesota at all time. So you know what? Oh, so you got this. The big cold sucks. So it's not like that, you know? The last time I was in Winnipeg
Starting point is 00:13:52 was a couple years ago, and I kid you not. It was negative 57 degrees. And I am not exaggerating negative 57. That's not real. That's not real. Tisha, let me tell you what, the frozen boogers in my nose, it was real. It was real. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:14:09 High lashes. That's like when you're eye, you walk outside, and your eyelashes just sticks. Turns out little icicles, yeah. How do people function? Like, absolutely not. I would not do that. Well, I would, I took the city bus everywhere I went, like to class, to school, to university, everything, like to practice, everything.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So, like, yeah, no, those are like memories suppressed. Like, wait. Well, you're definitely leveling up. Oh, no. So I'm just happy that it's not that cold. But, hey, I, you know, I do, I do, I do even do Winnipeg weather for Michelle, you know. I have to comment on the way you two smile you just are lighting up our screen right now I wish all of the viewers or all of listeners could see this because I mean obviously we saw
Starting point is 00:14:55 it on the season too I think Michelle you just you were giddy around Nate and you just lit up in such a different way when you two are together but it's really special to see you two now just on your own in a home just chilling it's so special I'm yeah I'm having that everyone else is to see that. I think that that was a hard part of not being able to talk about it because I, a producer brought it up to me that like anytime somebody said, Nate, like, I was just like, whoop, like my face would just like light up. Tasha, you were there, like, our girlfriend. Uh, yep. You don't go away when you're like at home. And so I had to consciously like not smile at times
Starting point is 00:15:37 because we'd be out in public and like a fan would come up and somebody would ask on Nate. And I'd be like, you know, but that was hard. It's the best cup secret. Yeah. No, seriously, though. It's a hard secret to keep, you know, like my brother just found out, you know, live with the rest of the world. So, you know, it is a hard secret to keep, that's for sure, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:03 because you're excited. You want to tell everybody. You want to tell your brother. You want to tell everybody, you know, but you got to kind of pick and choose exactly who you can tell, like, you know, sister. my most is my best friend you know what I mean so that's why she definitely she definitely and she she's in love
Starting point is 00:16:18 with Michelle like it's anyways I'm a tangent right now it is it is hard wait okay I need to go back to my initial question because we went off on such a tangent about Canada and it being cold have you guys started to look at homes in Minnesota
Starting point is 00:16:33 have you found anything that's caught your eye a lot yeah a lot has caught her eye what was so like when we started looking and even like with the housing market right now it goes so fast times or like it pops up and I'm like we're like is it too early to like go for that one I mean we really would love to be in it but like we're not out in public yet so now now it's really really to the race now that we're like game on
Starting point is 00:17:00 we're in let's know we have like this really like really well well built out spreadsheet on um on Google sheets or whatever for we can like all of our favorite listings. Yeah, we've been going, we've been going crazy on this. Now that we're public, I think it's going to be a lot easier for us. Wait, wait. What area? Is it Michelle or is it, Nate?
Starting point is 00:17:22 It has to be Michelle. Okay. I started a spreadsheet and he reorganized it and it's like top quality. Like, y'all, y'all saw it Ryan? Was this spreadsheet? No. I was going to teach you my students spreadsheets. He can come in.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah, no, his like Excel 10. Technology skills are honestly above and beyond. Okay. I'm organized and efficient. Yeah. I'm, yes, he teaches me daily, like new tech tools. Oh, my God. See, that's not a red flag.
Starting point is 00:17:56 That's, see, you might be red still, but that's not a red flag. He means business, people. Damn, Nate, I'm going to send you some list to make me some Xel. I know, excuse, I got some work for you. I got some work. Absolutely. Okay, wait. So, wait, okay, so this house, what were you just about to say?
Starting point is 00:18:11 you're about to say something until I interrupted. No, that we're just, we're really, we're really looking. And I mean, with this, I think everyone kind of just different couples go different directions with like this time and him and I are like, nah, let's go. Well, I think it's also like, it's different for you too because you have a career in Minnesota that doesn't really allow you to kind of just take time off for months on end and just kind of like really get to know each other. but I feel like this is such a good way for you both to kind of just jump into real life. You're going to definitely see her and her element and I feel like you're going to find your own element.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And this is, I don't know, I think this might be a RSSP for success and especially for finding a house. I'm coming over. I'll bring a housewarming gift. Just let me know what you guys need. I got you. We're definitely looking forward to this.
Starting point is 00:19:02 It's going to be a lot of fun. Finding the house moving in together. We're looking for it. I feel like you were the first person. you ask me first like okay cool when am i coming to minnesota yeah he's ready he's ready i remember that conversation because it was like right after the engagement we're still in mexico we're laying bed together i'm like we were just talking having fun i think it was like a couple days passed by and i was like so i could probably cancel my lease like really soon
Starting point is 00:19:30 like he's like next month if you want like oh my michelle this is god i love that this is so important you have to find somebody that actually gets excited and loves coming to minnesota because i feel like most people and i've i will say i've been in relationships in the past where people have kind of poo-poot in they've been like no it's cold i'm not that excited but i will say it's game changing when you have a partner who is thrilled like Nate i love this attitude i love that you are already what's the word um you're already um oh he's trying to be a minnesotaian or whatever Yeah, you're already projecting of what your futures could look like together. And we, I mean, Tasha and I, we've seen season after season.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And sometimes couples come from the show and they're like, we're not quite sure yet. And maybe we'll go here. Maybe we'll go there. But it's so important when you guys are on the same page and can actually make plans and put down roots. Because at the end of the day, like, it's you too and your relationship. And that's really all that matters. But having somebody who is supportive and gung-ho about coming to Minnesota is. so cute
Starting point is 00:20:39 you get some points Nate yeah see these are the points that I've been wanting to share with everybody but they couldn't
Starting point is 00:20:46 so now here shout it from the root tops babe well let's talk about some more points that Nate has possibly scored
Starting point is 00:20:53 throughout this season because now you guys are out in the open we can really talk about your true feelings now and get some better insight between both of you
Starting point is 00:21:00 but let's go back to night one Nate Nate you got the first impression rose and the first kiss i mean did you know okay for both both of you michelle did you know he was the one and nate did you know she was the one just from that kiss alone or just from that night i think i think what we've actually had this competition before
Starting point is 00:21:24 we are both not really like love at first sight people and i think for us both like we just always have wanted to make sure that there's like that depth there and we like connect on all these different levels and that we're going to connect outside of this entire world. So as much as it seems like you spend a lot of time together, like you really don't. Like our conversations, they definitely were progressive but they were also so quick.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And so I feel like we're asking the questions that we needed to ask. But for sure, like we were both like, nah, love that for his sight. No, like, I mean, he was attractive dude. I remember him walking out of the limo and be like, okay. You know what I mean? It definitely that whole season to make sure that we were on the same page with each other and that we
Starting point is 00:22:10 you know we could see a partner in both of us yeah and like and going back to kind of like that night one like night one was really special especially getting like like i'm not the type to to like going for for kisses and whatnot so i remember like when michel did kiss me i was like you just unlocked a can of worms because every time i'm and i learned my lesson really quick I got a past all date when she, she, she swore of me. But anyways, for Michelle, that very first night when she came down, she said something along the lines of, I'm looking for somebody to make, or be, or make the most natural out of an unnatural environment.
Starting point is 00:22:54 That was really like what I was focused on pretty much the entire time. Okay. I want to know, because it might not have been love at first. for you too. But for both of you, when was the moment that you knew and it clicked, where Michelle, you were like, okay, it's Nate. It's going to be Nate. This is it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And vice versa for you, Nate. Do you want to start? You want me to start? For me, I'd have to say after the basketball group date, the conversation that Michelle and I had, the conversation that Michelle and I had after that basketball date, I just
Starting point is 00:23:27 remember kind of going back to my hotel room after that cocktail party laying in bed and just thinking to myself, like, well, you know, like, I was like, okay, this is the, what, what's going on here? Like, I didn't, I just, I was fully, I guess I was like, okay, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to have to like, really see, like, see what's going on here because this is, this is somebody that, after that one conversation, I was like, okay, I, I, I'm, I'm seriously drawn to, to, to this individual. Um, and I, I don't know, what I was expecting, but I didn't think I was going to feel that so soon. And so it was a
Starting point is 00:24:05 group date that I was on. And I remember, yeah, like I said, we had a conversation and everything that was said in that conversation and the way that we were just, the conversation that we had, the way that we were bouncing off each other, the way that we couldn't stop smiling. Like, I haven't felt that way before. And maybe, like, per se, the whole, like, sparks and love at first night wasn't necessarily the first night. There was so much going on that first night. But that first conversation, the true conversation after a cocktail, like, for me, at least, that was a definition of, like, sparks were flying. And I never experienced that before. And I was like, I was, I just remember being nervous.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I was just like, I need to hold on to this. Like, I got to, like, really see this through and see what's going on here because I've never felt this way before. And that was, you know, the first group date. So that was when I was like, I'm happy I came, you know? So, yeah. I'm thinking back to our first conversation. you yelled like I'm so happy I signed that contract I'm so happy I'm so happy oh you mean to be on the show happy that you did too but for me it was um that so the conversation that Nate was talking
Starting point is 00:25:16 about was after that conversation I had actually taken a minute to step aside because I had become really emotional but just like that I was having for Nate and not realizing that you can feel that strongly for somebody but then you know him and i are both very um realistic like logical people too and wanting to make sure okay is this something that can last i don't want this to be infatuation you know especially from his point or from his point there's a bunch of other men from my point it's like i'm the only girl i'm the only option And there's just all these different layers. And for me, coming into it, and I think Tasia, you know this too, because we had some conversations about this.
Starting point is 00:26:04 But I give everything 110%. Maybe that may be too much at times. But I really did, like, force myself to be open. And so that, you know, could I have shut off early on and been like, yep, this is my strongest connection. this is who I'm madly in love, like feeling I'm falling madly in love what can be done. Yes, but I also felt like, are you left with what ifs?
Starting point is 00:26:31 And so I did really challenge myself to stay open. But with that said, like that also puts a lot on him, you know, watching all of this back and having me be so open with everybody and, you know, really instilling 100% into this entire journey and process. And it can, it's a beautiful. thing, but it's also a really difficult thing to handle. And I mean, he, I mean, he's been
Starting point is 00:26:56 awesome, but it's not going to be easy. And it hasn't been, but to be able to actually finally, like, be together now and start taking steps forward where it's like, yep, okay, like, this is mine. Like, let's, you know, I really do feel like that. And yeah, but it, it was, there's definitely a lot of moments where I felt so, so, so, so strong. And it's like, is this Do I say it? Do not say it? Well, Michelle, we knew. I think everyone watching just knew how gravitated towards Nate you were. Is that the right phrase to you? How you've gravitated towards Nate. And you just, and it's easy for us as viewers to kind of pick apart every relationship that you have and be like, oh, well, she's more like this with somebody and more like this. But
Starting point is 00:27:43 every time you were with Nate and you two were together, it was just, it would like you, like, you could just tell you just radiated and you were just and I kind of remember being in your position like trying trying to keep things in enough where you don't give all of your cards away you know like you can't because again like you are dating multiple people at that point but now like you just said you are in public like he is yours now you can shout it from the rooftops it's just this is where your true story begins but it's not easy and going back to when you said you know you had to be open to every relationship I think that that just solidifies how you now feel for Nate because you went through every relationship, you
Starting point is 00:28:22 had the what ifs, you asked all the questions, you got to the very end to know, okay, who can I not live without? Who can I not picture leaving here without this, whatever man is by my side? And it, of course, is Nate. And I think that's so important. And you've been such, I would say, a solid foundation for Nate to feel open. And, you know, it's not always easy expressing everything we're feeling and all of these crazy emotions that are basically on a roller coaster through each season. So Nate, I want to ask you because Michelle's been very vocal about where she's at in your relationship, how she's feeling and trying to get the right questions from you answered. So last night we saw your final date between the two of you was with the
Starting point is 00:29:07 shaman. And, you know, you struggled a bit. I think it was maybe uncomfortable to completely open up, especially in front of a stranger. I totally get it. And I would have, I would have laughed. I would have felt uncomfortable too. So I totally understand how you were probably feeling in that moment. So as you were finally able to open up more towards the evening with Michelle about where you were at and give her the reassurance that she was looking for in that moment. So what was it about her that helped you finally let your guard down and be fully vulnerable and get to the point on that last day where you both were able to say yes to an engagement? yeah um honestly
Starting point is 00:29:47 i think like i think for me it's like i think for me it's like i i just don't know how to properly i just i don't think it honestly i don't think it's a bad thing about me everybody has their own like opinions but like when it comes to like moments like that of trying to express yourself and you know especially just you know, I don't know, it's hard for me to, like, really get into expressing myself, you know, for whatever stuff, teach their own, everybody, everybody, you know, some people are really good
Starting point is 00:30:24 at baking cakes and some people can't bake for, I express myself, those other environments, like, you know, but I tried my best, you know, I tried my best, and I think at the end of the day, like my, how I felt came out clear enough for me. Michelle to understand in that moment exactly where I was. You know, I think, I think Michelle knows now, you know, that we let that bubble much better at expressing myself when there isn't a lot of weird things going on and there isn't play and smoke being blown in your face
Starting point is 00:31:01 and a shaman and 12,000. 20 people watching behind the cameras, yes. I think when I have time to fully understand or fully get how I feel inside down on a piece of paper, that's where I really shine. Because it's just right there in the moment and everything is going on and you want to tell you like, you know, like, hey, how exactly do you feel about this? It's like, okay, like let me like have some time to really like, I don't want to misspeak. You know what I mean? So like one thing that I do really enjoy is like letting Michelle know all the time how I feel.
Starting point is 00:31:41 so I am like a love letter type individual, right? Michelle's received a few of those. And I think it's just a testament. It's like people feel comfortable in different settings. And by no means is having cameras in your face, catching every conversation, every kiss, easy. And that's what I mean, I will say that you did have the best person by your side in Michelle to kind of pull that out of you.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But now is the time. Like now is where your story actually begins as a couple. And you can. And I'm sure you've already done this in your happy couple weekends when you've spent time together is now this is when you can really have those conversations away from everyone else, the things that are important to both of you to ask, to answer. And I trust both of you. And I know that you've probably gotten there. And you'll have so much more time now to be able to feel comfortable and open up in those safe spaces away from all of our prying eyes and ears.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Exactly. I mean, the first time that Michelle and I said that we loved each other. that we were falling in love with each other, that we were falling for each other. We did all of that the best we could to be off camera. You know, like we, I remember the first time I told her that I loved her, there was like a lot of noise going on
Starting point is 00:32:52 and the camera wasn't pointed at us. So I was like, this is a perfect opportunity. Like, I told her, like, I do not want the first time I tell you this to be shared with anybody but you. I don't need America to see me saying this for the first time. So like, there's, I don't know, there's so much stuff going on the background. And I noticed that there's no camera on us. I was like, I need you to know that.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I genuinely love you. Obviously, I know that this is a television show, and it is for entertainment, but, like, my feelings aren't entertainment. My feelings aren't just this thing for people to watch, right? So that's why it was really important for me that every single, like the first time that Michelle hears me say, I love you and the first time that Michelle hears that I'm falling in love with you,
Starting point is 00:33:31 I want that to be between you and me only, like the very first time. The second, third, thousand times, sure, let the rest of the world hear that. But the first time, no, I only want you to hear that. that you know what i mean so like that's when i would like wait to wait for that small little moment when there's not a camera on us and that there's a lot of people talking in between like what we're doing activities on on on different dates and whatnot for me to like say like tell it like i just want you to hear this and like this is the first time i'm telling you this i'm i genuinely love you or i'm genuinely falling in love with you because that's not that's not anybody else's business for the
Starting point is 00:34:02 first time i say something like that's for me and you know so um and it was just like it was first, yes, it was the first time you were saying it to me, but it was the first time you're saying it. Yeah. You know, like, I don't, yeah, hopefully that's, you know, doesn't come across weird or anything like that. But like, I know that this is for entertainment, but like, to a certain point, like, this is still my feelings. Like, this is somebody that I want to spend the rest of my life with. And I don't need that to be people's entertainment. I need that to be for you and I, you know. I respect that. I respect the hell out of that. I love that so much. And I want you, I want you to hold on to that. Because I feel like as much as it's exciting and it's so fun to share it with everyone
Starting point is 00:34:42 and we all are rooting for you. We all want to like kind of like, you know, put our advice to help everybody like flourish in the situation. Like it's between you two. And I just really want you guys to remember that and hold on to that because it gets loud. It gets real damn loud. But at the same time, like it's just like when you're, well, I'm going to give you a dignity. I was going to say is when you're playing a basketball game but it just gets really loud in the stands and you're like
Starting point is 00:35:12 there's so much like noise going on but you have to be like centered in yourself and like talk you know what I mean and like give yourself a pump up and you too need to just have these conversations behind closed doors and remember what you fell in love with and why you guys are together
Starting point is 00:35:28 and that'll make all of this all of this so much more worth it and so many more happy memories. Like, it's just, that's what this is all about, not all of our little opinions. Obviously, you know, we want to include people and we want, you know, like, it is this amazing thing to be able to showcase, like, these relationships and falling in love and.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Yeah. But it is really nice to, like, have that private moment. And I think Nate and I will definitely continue to do that where there's a moment that we have to step back and be like, okay, like, let's just be humans together. Yeah. I kind of explain it as there are times where you do. You do feel like you're in like a zoo exhibit where everybody's constantly like, you know, watching everything you're doing and wanting to take pictures and they forget that you're human.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And in that moment when Nate was able to do that, it was like I, you know, I was a bachelor's. And there's a lot that comes with that. But to be able to have that private moment was actually just really special for me. It's always a good thing to set boundaries. And if there's any advice that we could give you. at this point in time, it's okay to step aside and not be in this quote, unquote, bachelorette and contestant role. Like, you will need to say no to people at times. You will need to, you know, have your private moments when you're still in public and just focus on the two
Starting point is 00:36:51 of you. And that's totally okay. One thing, and this is actually something that Tasha touched on a couple weeks ago with Rodney and your final four, but you two have made history within this franchise and it's such an incredible moment for you too because you truly are the first couple of color to come from the bachelor or the bachelorette and so how does that feel for both of you it's about down time yes um i mean it it is a very cool thing for that to be to be shown and i think with that is just i mean nate and i have or have always been like goal setter as we talked about that I was have always been a goal setter um when he's when he came in and our conversations that we had like we definitely really
Starting point is 00:37:42 align with that um and so it's been cool to be a part of this experience and to make history in this way um but yeah it's it's just kind of a trampoline for us with what we're going to do thank you no i agree black love baby No, one thing you've said since the beginning is you want to change the world. And I think so many, especially young, younger people, younger, I don't want to say kids, but just the younger generation watching this can now see you two and this successful love story from the franchise and the first time that this has happened on a bachelorette season. And it's so incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:28 And, you know, taking it back to Rachel Lindsay's season, this is why she, signed up to be the bachelor years ago is because she hoped she would pave the way for younger women and men people of color to join the franchise and to you know depict these real life love stories and i think that's so important so this is just a small baby step in how i'm sure you both will change the world but i can't wait to see you to do it together um one thing i want to say before elatatia asked the next question is just you you seem so uh and this is a compliment you seem so calm and just grounded with each other. It's, of course, such an exciting time for you both,
Starting point is 00:39:06 but you both just have this content, I would say, ease with one another. That's really great to see. I mean, don't let this fool you, but no. It comes down to what it really is. Like, there's a lot to deal with. There's a lot to navigate to. And it's like we both have our moments where we,
Starting point is 00:39:28 like where he struggles, where I struggle. And then we both struggle the same. time and then we figure out a waste of it. Definitely at ease, though. Definitely at ease. I mean, we literally, like how we spent our time during the fantasy suites, the overnights, was sitting criss-crossed apple sauce in bed and just talked for like five, six, seven hours, like just non-sautil, like, super at ease.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Like, we're just kicking it. I just had a good time. And that definitely is a good way to sum up how I feel when I am with Michelle is just, you know, I'm just with my person, you know, I'm just with my person, you know? I'm just with my first time I'm at, I'm uncomfortable. We're just with my... You guys are giving me the chills over here. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I mean, I have to say, at least you guys have, you know, started the relationship off with the firm foundation that you guys know that you love each other. So that's all that matters. But how are you going to spend the holidays? I want to know you guys are making your memories. Christmas is coming up. New Year's is coming up. Nate, you better get some mistletoe.
Starting point is 00:40:31 you got a cute girl to kiss and Michelle's going to probably have to jump up there and get you but how are you guys going to sit in the holidays? Our family, so we'll be with my family to start off and then we'll be driving to Winnipeg to visit his dad, his sister. I get to meet Iowa for the first time. I'm so excited. Get ready for the waterworks.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Oh my gosh. And then his mom, Charles, are going to come back to Minnesota, us spend some time with both Nate and I and my family, so we're going to bring the families together. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be fun. You know, and then next Christmas,
Starting point is 00:41:10 it will definitely, I can see all of us being together in the same room. This year with travel and with COVID and everything, we definitely have to, you know, travel to see, you know, families in different areas.
Starting point is 00:41:24 But, but yeah, I'm happy that we are going to get some time with both of our families together. Yeah. I love that. Driving distance isn't bad. That's, that's amazing actually that you guys are able to do that seriously it really all worked out for the best yeah yeah another like pro to to moving to minnesota it really is just a seven hour
Starting point is 00:41:42 drive you know quick one hour flight you got it so i hate to be this person i remember cringing every time i was asked this right when i was newly engaged no don't do it we have to tisha i have to do i have to be the first person to ask this before anyone else because they are first interview any wedding plans any dates any ideas anything um told me later yeah summertime um and we are going to leave it at that summertime just okay within the next year hey this is more than most couples ever know and give us so this is good this is gold this is what i wanted absolutely sold me later for asking that again he was a person like so when do you like want to start talking about dates i was like all right keeper Nate you are just i'm very proud of you i am too i am too Nate i will say last week on
Starting point is 00:42:45 the podcast i was a little hesitant because of the whole you know you've never been in love before but i am eating my words now and again i trust michel and just seeing you two talking with the both of you together just reassures me and it just this is such a good pairing i get it now it totally fits and i'm so happy for you both many double dates to come i'm going to say that i'm going to manifest that now wait i want a fifth wheel that's so rude i'm right here i don't i well we will we will triple date we will find a nice minnesota man for you what jesus listen i was just okay Yeah, we'll talk about it. Too soon.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So aside from all of that, you know, before we start getting into the game and have some fun with you both, I want to ask you what the rose and thorn of this entire experience was for each of you. Who wants to go first? Okay. My rose would definitely have to be meeting a person that I had no idea that any, like, man like him existed. When it comes to like, but when it really though, when it comes to like intellect, goal setting, just supporting and how do you want, you know, your partner to be in a relationship, but then also like showing me all these new things that I've truly come to like love and enjoy. So I feel like he just takes me as I am, you know, whether I mean, I had this really bad habit of like getting out of the shower without drying off. the whole bathroom is soaked and like to the point where like
Starting point is 00:44:28 he's slipped before my mom has slipped like I've gotten grounded for it in the past because it's been such an issue no but I'm not dry or so I don't know what to do and I have places to be okay so I get out and I you know I've noticed like he's like
Starting point is 00:44:44 hey you get the like why is the bathroom always soaked and I'm like I'm sorry like I'll work on it I know that I've made a lot of people mad with it and he's like no no no he's like leave it. I love it because it's your flaw and I just love it. It's because because you do it. So he just, yeah, he truly accepts me and that's, that's my rose. Um, my thorn would probably have to be just like, honestly, just navigating through all of this, all these different things and so many of the moments, you know, where you really do fall in love and with everything, how the
Starting point is 00:45:17 edit goes and it's not like, obviously all that isn't shown or can't be shown or wasn't shown. And so I think that was the hardest part at times is because, you know, but those are memories for us. For me, I would have to say the rose is, I mean, 100% just falling in love for the first time, really, really being able to experience what this is like and feeling just like, just so lucky, right? Like, I don't, I truly feel like I felt the person. Wow, I truly feel like I have met. the person for me and I'm 27 years old you know I got the rest of my life to really like just
Starting point is 00:45:57 continue having this this once in a lifetime type of experience type of love and I'm you know it's just it really is beautiful right it really is beautiful so I'm really happy about that and then for the thorn um I mean it has it has been difficult at you know just kind of watching the season play back um and and and at the end the day I understand that that this is a television and show for entertainment and that, you know, people have, like, this is people's jobs, right, to edit the show and tell the story that they want to, that they want to tell us. So that was a little frustrating at times, and to be questioned, too, it is never fun. You know, I don't really like being questioned.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I kind of, kind of lead my life to make sure that I don't get questions too, too often. And so it does kind of suck to be questions so publicly. But, hey, at the end of day. my rose out my rose what was it the rose in the thorn yeah my rose definitely outweighs my thorn so you know i can't i can't be i can't be disappointed for too long right i have michel so i'm happy glad of that i was just going to say at the end of the day like if you guys have anything you guys just you have you found true love and like at aside from all of that i feel like it is really difficult it's really difficult to put yourself out there um michelle and i even talked about it
Starting point is 00:47:20 like definitely going to it wholeheartedly like challenge yourself make sure you feel all the feels but at the end of the day like she knows that she wanted you and you wanted her and that's all you guys need so it's difficult believe me I understand that I have definitely been there and it that's what I was trying to tell you guys earlier it doesn't necessarily get easier with all of the noise but that's why you guys have to keep yourself grounded and with each other and really just keep relying on each other. You have all of us, you have me, you have all the other bachelorets to always come ask for help.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And you got this. You absolutely do got this. And at the end of the day, this makes you 10 times stronger. But when you get through all of this, you'll have all this look back on and know that you guys freaking did it and you're stronger than ever.
Starting point is 00:48:07 So roses and thorns, hey, you got to have them both. But I have to say, you guys are such a beacon of light together. I think you guys radiate positivity. And I can absolutely see. that you guys are going to be a power, a couple, a force to be reckoned with. And I cannot wait to just watch and see what you guys do in life. So I have a quick game for us all to play.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I really want to put you guys to the test. These are going to be very difficult, okay, very difficult. Hope you guys know each other very well. It's called the newly engaged game. Are you ready? Good. Okay. Who is the funniest?
Starting point is 00:48:41 I don't know. I feel like I'm funny, but yeah, you're funny. I feel like, okay, I don't know because I was. would say we sit and we are rolling laughing all the time okay that's fair that's good we can't yeah yeah yeah who does okay well who is more romantic yeah i'd say so yeah really yeah like i get flowers sent like constantly love net letters like little midday check in love you text um his fiance has not texted him back until 5 p.m. because she's trying and it's just just so chaotic and busy so yeah
Starting point is 00:49:27 yeah he he's more romantic actually i love that more points for you um who is the loudest for me black love baby is always you not in a bad way not in a bad way he's singing a lot. He's constantly singing. I'm too, but you can't tell because you're singing still. I guess I'm loud. I guess I'm loud. I think I know the answer to this, but who is messier?
Starting point is 00:50:05 I was actually going to say that, which is so funny. I clean it up, but like, I'm constantly on the go and so, like, I come in. She's not messy. She's not messy. She's not messy, she's messier than I am. He's, oh, yeah, he, like, he's, like, insanely clean.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Like, I'm a germophobe. I feel like, just certain extent I'm insanely clean. But, like, I lose everything. So I come into my clean room and I tear it up just trying to find my car keys. I hear that. I hear that. Okay. Well, we'll have to work on that one.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yeah. But see, who is more likely to cook? Oh, definitely. Right here. I... No, no, now Michelle always wants to cook and help. I like to be in the I like to be chefing up I love to chef up
Starting point is 00:50:52 I'm like maybe I got it let me let me cook let me clean you just sit there have a good time talk with you know watch a movie listen music listen to podcasts I just you know
Starting point is 00:51:00 but she definitely barters her way into the kitchen and tries to help and whatnot which is cool it's nice I'll get
Starting point is 00:51:07 maybe sound like I'm a bar and I don't know cook okay what a shame she wants to make you dinner but hey at the same time it's not bad that he wants to make you dinner catering to Michelle You know
Starting point is 00:51:19 I get it My mom like Gets on Like are you like Okay wait What's your favorite meal To make her And what's your favorite
Starting point is 00:51:27 Well Since you have Have you made a meal For him at least Has he let you? Oh yeah She No not open Michelle
Starting point is 00:51:33 No no breakfast Okay Wait Is he a good cook at least Yeah Yeah I feel like we both Yeah With Chris
Starting point is 00:51:44 You know Like she's working and, you know, she's dealing with kids all day. Like, let me take care of it, you know? I love that. I love that. Let him take care of it. Okay, so who is more likely to do the dishes after cooking?
Starting point is 00:51:57 If he cooks, I do the dishes. If I cook, he does the dishes. Yeah. We love a compromise. I love that. We are off to a great start, ladies and gentlemen. Who takes longer to get ready? Me.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Yeah. Okay. That's what. Hey, girl. It takes a little bit of work, but you don't need that much work. You're gorgeous. who is the better dancer? Yeah, definitely Michelle.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Oh! I think he's dancing, though. Even on the seat, like, I'm just kind of in my own little world. I dance. I dance through the store. I dance through the, I'm always. Michelle, Michelle, she's good at it. Like, I dance, you know, it's not good, but I like that.
Starting point is 00:52:38 So you don't have rhythm? No, he does. I have rhythm. He holds himself to a very high standard when he's saying he can't dance. Like, if you gave him a dance routine, he wouldn't. be able to do it and make it not look awkward maybe and make it not look awkward that's really good okay so you're good yeah so dancing at the stars maybe we'll talk about it might take a lot of work two uh rookies on the same team let's go that'd be amazing um who has better taste in music
Starting point is 00:53:09 oh we're really good that's both of us we both have very similar taste but i will say he is the DJ because I love like we listen to everything he just pulls up any whatever song he pulls up I'm like oh this is the new This is the vibe this is the vibe We literally we like genuinely listen Like you know when people are just like oh what do you listen to all I listen Everything and they're like they really listen just like four genres
Starting point is 00:53:31 Like yeah Michelle and I literally listen to everything Yeah I come home and he's listening to Eminem I come home and he's crying to Adele I come home Michelle have you cried to the Adele album me That's the next question Okay, a few of those songs hit. That was a great album.
Starting point is 00:53:50 It's actually phenomenal. I listen to it on the daily. I know every word. I know every word. I'm crazy. I was like, you go, Adele. You let these people know. Who is most likely to steal the sheets?
Starting point is 00:54:02 To what? Steal the sheets. See, we don't have that issue. What happens, I get crowded. And next you know, I'm half my body is off the bed. He is a cuddler. Let me tell I love it
Starting point is 00:54:19 I love every second of it But I was like You know Can I get like a little bit more room A little bit more to the left Let me tell you this Let me tell you this I have to wake up
Starting point is 00:54:29 It'll be like three hours I'm like hey babe Can I get like three more inches to the left Like I'm halfway off Okay let me tell you this It's all about spots Pick your spot wisely If you don't pick your spot
Starting point is 00:54:43 In the bed Pick your spot in the middle so that when I come up to you, you're still in the middle. This man, whether I'm in the bed or not, I like to be on the side. You know, like, yeah, people sleep on their side, like on the side of the bed, but, like, when nobody else is in it,
Starting point is 00:54:57 like, I swear he likes to, like, feel, like, adrenaline junkie, like, halfway off the bed still. Oh, my gosh. Who is most likely to plan an adventure? Both. Oh, would you? I'm a planner. I'm a huge plan.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Michelle's a planner. I'll just find myself on an adventure and not knowing that I'm in the middle adventure, Michelle will be the one who plans it out for us. Oh. Like planning for, like, would you plan like a spontaneous date, adventure date? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah. She would do it more often than I would. Yeah. Mm. Michelle's a planer. For sure. That's good. Well, guys, that's all the questions I have for you. I mean, I feel like we really got to know y'all. This was so
Starting point is 00:55:39 fun. Again, I am so sorry for not being there last night, but I think I got the better half. Honestly, I think this is exactly what I wanted talk about today and get to know you guys a little bit more. You guys look so happy and radiant. I'm so happy you guys are able to be out in the open. Have so much fun for Christmas and for New Year's. Behave yourself, but have fun with your families and make the most of it. You're free. Well, thank you. Finally free. Finally free. Well, enjoy it, you guys. We're wishing you all the very best. Congratulations to the future, Mr. and Mrs. Olukoya.
Starting point is 00:56:13 hey truthfully i am just so incredibly happy for them they you could just feel it you could feel it through the screen that they are just so happy and i truthfully think that they're a match made in heaven so thank you so much to all of our bachelor happy hour listeners for following with us this entire season thank you so much to michel and nate for being here and thank you michel for being an incredible bachelor's to whom we all have actually looked up to we are so happy to welcome her into this family of incredible women and we cannot wait to see what is next for her and Nate. As a reminder, we are casting for The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. So make sure to head to bachelornation.com forward slash apply to nominate someone or even yourself. And make sure to hit
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