Bachelor Happy Hour - OG Bachelorette Trista Sutter Stops By

Episode Date: July 14, 2020

She was the first Bachelorette and the first success story of the franchise — and today Rachel and Becca are talking to Trista Sutter! Trista and the ladies discuss how the show has changed over the years and ways they think the integrity from some of the earlier seasons could be restored into the show today. Plus, Trista reveals her one regret from her season of the show.Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back, happy hour listeners. And I want to first start by saying this is probably going to be the last time we call you guys that because today is the day where we will be voting on a name for all of our listeners out there. We've been asking you guys to send in your suggestions for names so our. box has thankfully been flooded. We've narrowed it down to some amazing options. And so just in a little bit, Rachel, we're going to be narrowing it down for the final two and then let you guys, all of our listeners decide, because of course you need to have a say. You've had a say since

the beginning. Then we need your voices to be heard. So we will be going on the Instagram account later today to vote after this episode air. So don't forget to check us out and give us your input. Yeah. I'm going to be honest with y'all. I don't like calling y'all bachelor happy hour listeners. It's too long it's a mouthful we need something cute fun need to create our own community so this honestly has been a long time coming and that's our fault we probably should have started this a lot sooner but don't worry about that let's let bygones be bygones we're here now we're going to have the poll up you better vote i think that we got some really good suggestions for names you know we'll we'll narrow it down to the two best and you know you guys do your part and vote and speaking of voting while

i while i have your attention let's make sure we voted our local our local, regional, state, whatever, local, county, regional, state, national elections. Let's just make sure we vote, period. Okay. Just always vote. Yeah. Listen, we're in scary times right now. Okay. And now that I'm off that soapbox, I want to get to you guys about who we're having on the podcast today because who we're having on today is she's just one of a kind. You have been riding into us for months. You guys are always requesting certain people on the podcast, but this is probably one of our biggest requests. And I understand why. Becca understands why, but I'm happy that you guys get to really see how

great she is. She's an OG. She is Bachelor royalty. Some may call her the queen. And she's honestly, no, you should be calling her the queen if you're not already. But she's living proof that this process and this show, they work. They really do. And she's an amazing example as a woman, a mother, a friend, and a bachelorette, and we'll be having none other than Trista Sutter on to talk about everything related to The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, just to check in with her, talk to her about life after the Bachelorette, what she's been doing, what she learned, and what advice she has for us, for future people coming on this franchise, and just life advice in general.

Rachel, I cannot wait to have her because we kind of know. know where we got to know her at the bachelorette reunion last year and i feel like the world hasn't seen enough of her and she just has this amazing spirit you know when you think of the bachelor and bachelorette you think of obviously chris harrison that's the first name i think that pops into everyone's head but let's be honest no one really remembers the first couple bachelors and maybe there's a reason for that but everybody remembers trista because she did pave the way and she had the i think the first love story that is still lasting to this day because of the show. And so we're going to get her on. We're going to pick her brain on what she went through because it was so different than

probably what we experienced on her season. And so I cannot wait to chat with her. I can't either. And I'll, and I'll just say too that I think coming, because I was so anti the franchise before coming on, you know, I didn't watch it. I didn't relate to it and connect to it. I was just open to something new and what it could bring in life and love. And even coming off The Bachelor and in The Bachelorette, I wasn't in a mindset of connecting to other bacheloretts. I mean, I had talked to the ones kind of right before me, but I just wasn't in that mindset because I was just thinking about the show,

the people that I was on the show with. And so that's what I'm really excited to talk to Trista about because I have to give her credit for being the one to reach out, to connect us, and to make sure that we, We hold strong to being women and bacheloretts and going through this experience together. So anyways, enough from us because Trista can say it's so much better because, you know, she started this shit. It's my one cursor for the podcast. All right.

So before we get Tristan on, we have to get back to business, Rachel, because we've rounded up 20 of our favorite names. And so we're going to start out. We're going to narrow it down and make it a little bit. easier. And then from there, we're going to pick our top two favorites. And then, like I said before, we're going to have an Instagram poll. So don't forget to check out our page. Today, it's going to air right after this episode. So check it out because, as Rachel said earlier, you got to vote. You can't have an opinion unless you vote, people. Let's start now. These are baby steps. Okay, after you do this, then you register if you're not already. You go vote. Please.

We'll make it easy. All right, Becky, yes. I'm excited and nervous because we have a lot of options. So thank you for everyone who submitted options when we ask you to. But we have to narrow it down to just one. And honestly, we have to like it because this is what we're going to be calling them. So we're going to go ahead and read the list. And then after that, we'll narrow it down to the two, like you said, Becca, and put the poll up. And I'm not even going to say this is going to be fair. Because if y'all like something we don't like, I don't know.

Do you think this is how parents feel? they're picking out a name for their children? Absolutely not. Because I have a feeling it's not really as much of a joint effort as you think. I think because it's going to come down to what I like because I'm going to be like, I have to push this baby

out. It affects my body, my health. You know what I mean? The end of the day, I have to be okay when I'm calling this baby for the rest of it's like. That's true. But yes, yes, this is kind of what it's like, because this is our baby. You're right, Becca.

Yeah, this is our baby. But I guess, yeah, it's hard because we don't have a face for the name. We have many faces. And so we just, yeah, it's going to, you know, Rachel and I will narrow it down. But also, too, it's going to be what we like. Because we got to call you guys it. So, okay, to start it off, we're just going to make it easy, simple. We got batches.

B-A-C-H-E-S. Batchez. What up, batches. It does have a ring to it, Rach. It does have a ring to it. Okay. So I'll read. I'll read the 10 and then you read 10.

Okay. Okay. Okay. So two, we've got B. H-H-Hers. It's a mouthful. It's a little tough. It looks great on paper. I don't know if it's great coming out of our mouths.

We've got hapschlers. Hapshlers. Hapshlers. Hapshlers. I don't know if I'm going to be able to say that. Yeah, it's a lot. Rosebuds, which I feel like is another podcast. A cute name, not quite sure.

Five, we've got batchies. um six pedal pushers which you know is a fashion trend as well some plan words if you will seven batch tini's do you like martini's i love a good dirty martini really with blue cheese stuffed olives i feel like you have to like olives to like uh to really appreciate martinis and i don't yeah and i like it extra dirty so it's basically olive juice but that's what but i don't do like i can't do a gin one uh yeah yeah they're not my thing um bachelor besties and drinking buddies okay these are good we've got more so we still have half to go so adding on we got happiest i don't know why that one's so funny to me it's like good does it make you

I don't think so. I don't know. Not everyone's going to be happy when they're listening to it. I don't know. That's very true. All right. We got the Pod Squad,

which is kind of cute. I feel like that can apply to any podcast. We have Bachelor Warriors. Sounds like a basketball team. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I'm guessing you like that one? No, no.

I'm not saying yet. I'm not saying. Okay, okay. We got clinkers, which is kind of cute if you're like clinking your glasses. bachelor bays rosies

now this one range I feel like you already coined this term but we got the R&Bs I know it's cute but it's been done but it's for you and Brian it's for you and Brian right yeah yeah okay a couple more

we got the shakers the bachelor babies or the drunken roses but I have to add one because somebody actually did DM me and I liked it. Okay. If you hate it. So this is your vote. Okay. This is, well, I kind of want to vote for two, but I know I can't. Okay. But I kind of liked this and it was batchaholics. That's actually really cute. I thought you were going to just say it like insert crickets there. I said it,

no, because I said it in my head three times. No, that's why. Not because I was hesitant. You know if I didn't like it, I would have told you. And I'm spelling it out. I think it's super cute actually. Bachelolics. makes sense. And it makes sense for Happy Hour. I read it and I was like... I'm actually low-key really into it the more I said it. So am I. And I wish

I'm sorry, whoever DM me, DM me again because I probably lost it, but I did... Actually, no, I think I screenshotted it. I'll go through my pictures, but I'll message you. Very good one. So I mean, I think I have to say that's one of my top choices. That's

got to be one of my two. So we're narrowing it down in two. Okay, batchaholics for sure. The more I keep saying it and I'm thinking about it and I'm just, I'm seeing it on T-shirts, I'm seeing it written. I'm seeing what up for our batchaholics. Like it's, it encompasses the happy hour and I'm so into it. My other choice, I like it. It's got it all. Yeah, this kind of has my vote. Sorry, I'm kind of selling it. That was a good one. And they were all good choices. Everybody who sent in a choice, thank you, because that's what we asked. And they're all good. And it is hard. to choose from but we can only choose two so we both agree on batchaholics my next choice would be

batches i actually agree with that too when we because that was the first one we said and it kind of reminds me of like hey betches except right but we're not saying it yeah yeah so i i think they're both kind of cheeky a little bit i like them exactly i was going to say um my third choice which i don't love as much as the first two i kind of liked the clinkers but not as much it's not as catchy yeah i i think clinkers it's so this is what's hard about picking the name because it's not just what we're calling it we're thinking bigger than this we're thinking posters t-shirts mugs drinks drinking glasses um i'm just thinking of how it looks so like clinkers i like in theory but i can't see it all the way around i i like

Michael we've narrowed it down to. My other one was going to be, I like Pod Squad, but then when you said that could go for any podcast, I thought she's correct. So that's, that was enough. Rachel's going to take it for her other podcast. No, we're the thought warriors. That's what we call our listeners, thought warriors. That's true. That's why you like the Bachelor Warriors. No, I didn't not like Bachelor Warriors, actually. Sorry, whoever came over. I think my honorary mention would be, I have such my mother's daughter because this is probably. one that she would pick. I really kind of liked the pedal pushers, like a rose petal. Yes, I thought it's cute. But then again, I don't think it fits us quite. No, we're not quite there. If I

had a top five pedal pushers would be in it. Other close ones were batch tini's for me. I like drunken roses, but I don't want to call our listeners drunken, you know? Yeah. So I think this was easier than I thought. Like, Becca, I thought we were going to have to debate this, go out.

it, which means we're really on the same page. And I could go with either one, batches or batch, wait, batchaholics. I almost said it wrong, which is scaring me now. No, no, no. Not racial is rethinking it. No, no, no. Batchaholics, you got to go with your gut. First instinct, batches and batchaholics.

I think that's it. Those are the two. Well, that was the exact. That was fun. I don't know about you back. I feel good about both of those names. I do too. I want to get to this poll for you.

all because I want to see if it's a pretty even split or if it's like going to be one blows the other out of the ballpark. It'll be interesting to see what you guys have to say. Absolutely. So we've narrowed it down to two. You're welcome out of 21 options or 20 options. We've narrowed down to two out of 20 options, but you guys have to make the final decision. Of course, we want to include you. We're all a part of this family. So Becca already stated it before, but just in case you forgot if you want to be a part of this, make sure you stalk our Instagram account today at Bachelor Happy Hour. You can find the poll there. It's going to be live for 24 hours. Make sure you vote. And then after that, I guess we'll find out the winner next week of what

our new name is going to be. And that's it. Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, that's the last time we'll say that. Thank goodness. Good riddance. All right, everybody, now that we finally got that out of the way, it's time for our incredible guest and I'm so excited to have her on because she's not only the OG bachelorette as well as our fairy bachelorette godmother, but most importantly

she is our friend, our confidant, someone who's been there since the beginning and so we are so excited to catch up with her. So without further ado, Rachel, let's give a warm welcome to Trista. Trista, we're so happy to have you. So having you. Thank you.

I'm so excited. I've been waiting. I've been waiting. I know. I apologize. We are long overdue for this. Yes. So I want to get into how you're doing with everything and just catch up on life. But first, I have to ask for myself, but I think all of our listeners out there want to know. What is your secret? Because Trista, you have not aged a day since you were on your season. And like, what the hell are you doing? You need to share your secrets. Oh, my God.

I love you. So I've gotten a couple people saying that. And I'm just like, how much do I owe you? Because that's definitely not true. I mean, it's really funny. I think that I, over the years, have learned that good lighting is a girl's best friend. So when they saw me on the show the other day, I had really good lighting. um i've learned uh a little bit uh better makeup techniques so there you go there and i think

moisturize moisturize moisturize you know you're you guys like it's just it's like you are glowing you were glowing back when you were the bachelorette but you still are and so i was going to say like if you were doing like olive oil on your face i'm going to start doing that i don't know what it would be but what i listen know i got to do no but i do use um cedophil uh like heavy cream. It's the cream. It's not lotion on my face. I used to use just lotion. And because I live in Colorado and it's super, super dry, I had to resort to cream. So there you go. No olive oil, but seedic cream is my secret. I feel like you're being extremely humble because Becca and I have both been around you in person. So there's no lighting. That's not about makeup. You guys, she just looks

phenomenal. It's like, don't, thank you for, that's, that's part of the beauty of you is your humility, but, you know, let's just take a moment, you know, to praise you a bit. She really is that stunning in person. I have to say, Trista, and this is, I say this all the time. I've never watched the show before being on it. So the greatest seasons has been really nice to go back and watch because I'm learning things in a different way. So, you know, I met you and I hadn't seen your season. But I know people are like, she, you know, she's the OG. She paved the way. And then I see the season. And I'm like, no, no, no. She really is an OG. She really did pave the way. And it was so much fun to watch your season. And can I, another confession,

I had no idea that Alex, is it Michelle? Michael? Michelle. Didn't know he was the first bachelor. I thought it was the Firestone guy. So I was sitting here watching it. Like, who is this man? I thought It was the firestuck guy. I had no idea. I really need to update. Like, there needs to be a Bachelor history book or something. That's so true. You're so right.

There does. I'll write it. Hey, let's see that. That's a money maker. So, honestly, don't give it to the franchise. It needs to be done. Do you know what? Let's all do it.

Let's get all of our bacheloretts and we're going to do it together. Yeah. I love it. I love it. We already have the group chat going. We might as well. That's right. It's so hard to eat.

even know where to start in this interview because it's like I want to start you know from where you are now but then it's like I want to go back to the season but then I want to talk about your season I remember coming into the the reunion and I was so excited to meet you I wanted to talk to you I wanted to pick your brain because you knew the show different from when we did and I'm not just talking about the fashion or even talking about the setup was a little different. It's that there was no social media and all of that. So I guess I'll just start saying, you know, you've watched all the seasons since you, you experienced your own. How has it changed for you from then to now? Like watching the show. Yeah. So many ways. There's so many little

nuances that are different and logistics and the way that they do things. Obviously, social media is probably the biggest change since my season. But I do have to say that there were message boards. So on ABC.com, they would put, you know, there was Internet back then. So they would put links to these message boards. And message boards back then were kind of like Reddit, where people would start a thread and then comment, comment, comment, comment. So you couldn't direct. message the person that you were speaking about, but you could go off on whatever you thought. And so I was definitely criticized, as you guys heard on the show on Monday, there was a lot of press criticism for like, even before the show started, slut shaming me and telling me

that how are you going to, you know, be able to hold your character. and not look like a slut. And so there was a lot of that rhetoric. And the message boards were definitely not kind. So I dealt with hatred in a different way, but in a similar way. You know? But, yes, social media has totally changed the game in terms of, and I say the game, just it's not a game to me for people out there who are going to say,

oh, she used the word game. it is different in that people I feel like nowadays come on the show not all the time because there are people who are still in it for the right reasons but they come in it because they think that they're going to get Instagram famous and and they know that they're going to get tons of followers just by being on the ship so I think that that dilutes a little bit of the reason that we all did the show and that's to find love you know so that's a sad occurrence to me but I think that is just the way

that our culture is now and we just have to hope that there are people who are going to apply for the show who truly do want to find love and not just fame but you know there's little things like high definition it definitely

wasn't high definition but we did like phenomenal so I mean you need high deaf oh you need high death well actually maybe not because these crows but um so um like we had date boxes we had i would give um they would give vCR tapes to the guys to find

out or VHS tapes to the guys to find out what their dates were going to be um they all did a video message to me before the rose ceremony so i would go into i can't remember the what they called the room but it was like a you had all the guys pictures and picture frames and against this wall. It was like the contemplation room or something like that and I would stand there and like look longingly

into their eyes and their photos and then listen to their video messages and that was a fun little thing that they used to do which I actually wish that they still did. I had friends of mine come on the show and stay in the house with the guys. What?

Yeah. They let them do that? Yes, isn't that crazy? So they stayed with the guys for a week and then they reported back to me I think it wasn't me a week it might have been a few days they reported back to me

on who they liked who they didn't like and they set up dates based on who they chose So that was a really fun That aspect away from the show I know! That I think would be game changing

They need to do that again Well it's kind of like I think it was Hannah Brown season They had Demi and Katie I think the first night in the van watching the guys and then they chatted with Hannah and reported back but it's like can you imagine if you could get some of your friends nowadays to go and keep an eye on those guys oh god i'm making cuts like i would have maybe four guys left at the like at the very beginning just to get to know

because it's like totally i've heard stories know you already that's not fun so that was a big change too i i have to ask you because when i was watching it i thought wow this is it was the quality was better. And by that, I mean, the reasons people would come on to the show, the guys had actual jobs. That's right. I honestly didn't think that I would find someone because I was like, oh, people aren't going to have real jobs or real, you know, goals. That was my thinking. So I'm looking at the men that are on your show. I mean, you're going to people's houses. They, I mean, they really are established in their own right prior to coming on the show, which I thought was so great. And then there wasn't that much drama. Now, granted, I saw this.

you know the short version i'm sure there was but the show wasn't focused on the drama and it really seemed to be focused on the conversations that you guys had like you and your number two i don't even remember his name charlie but charlie but sitting in the the vehicle talking you're talking about the fantasy suite you're talking about sex you're talking about the i just i thought it was so good so my my question is my question is do you get frustrated watching the show now seeing the sharp turn that it has taken from the time that you were on it. Yeah, for sure. I have always said that I kind of want them to go back to how it used to be in terms of like

plucking someone out of obscurity, you know. And I think that Matt James is perfect for that because he hasn't been on a prior show. You know, obviously not only for the diversity element because I think that was necessary. But I think that because no one knows him, we can all fall in love with him together, you know? and there's no preconceived notions. So it is frustrating to me. It was very innocent back in the day. And to your point, there was no drama with the guys.

They had so much fun on my show. And even on The First Bachelor, it was not catty at all. Like, we all truly got along. And I think that because production knows that they if they want the viewers to you know when you learn the elements of a story like just the basics when you're in elementary school you learn that there has to be a villain or some kind of controversy some some element that will draw you in and and it can't just be all rainbows and unicorns all the time you know so i think that they you know they learn that they need to they need to kind

have encouraged that in a way. And so I think through casting, they realize that we need a villain, so who's going to be the villain? And then they go on to maybe encourage a little more drama than, you know, by your ITMs and the questions that they ask you and kind of leading you down a certain path. So, yeah, it is, it's, it is unfortunate. But as a viewer and someone who lives in the real world and is realistic about this stuff, I think that they need that drama in order to hold our attention as viewers. But it is frustrating because I truly, knowing that Ryan and I have the success with story that we do

and that we were there just to find love, I wish that it still was all about that, you know? I want to ask, speaking of Ryan, because, you know, when you guys did meet you met in like I like to say the show was like down to the basics like you were truly their hope and you you said it best I think in your last day there like you're hoping to find somebody you're compatible with that you fell in love with that works not only in the show world but in the real world and so yeah I think especially in the first season of the bachelor you had the ability because you didn't have social media coming from it you didn't you didn't leave the show expecting

I'm going to be able to travel to all these cool places and these parties are going to invite me all over the world and there's all this hype I think when people get off the show they think they're going to get all these brand endorsements there's a lot now that comes from the show where back then it probably wasn't as much what would you say to now people

who are going on the show we know that Claire is now going to be soon filming with her guys they're in quarantine now but they're in this weird position now where they don't get to travel around the world on the show like people in the past have they they they just it's kind of going back to the basics with her season so what would you tell not only the guys going on Claire's season and coming out of it but also heading into Mad James this

season because that's going to look a little bit different too um like going into it what to expect and what to focus on when they're filming in this quote unquote new sort of film environment. Yeah. Well, I think that, you know, they're still going to have, it's The Bachelor, so they're going to have once in a lifetime opportunities no matter where they are. You know, they'll have, I'm sure, recording artists, actors, comedians, whatever, I'm sure they'll have them on the show, that sort of thing. So I am really looking forward to that. Like, I have to say, I definitely have had a jealous bone in my body every single time one of you all comes on and is like in Switzerland or New Zealand and Bora Bora.

And I like, oh my God, I went to Seattle. I've never been to Seattle. I've never been. Seattle is great. I love Seattle and it's where I fell in love truly with my husband. But, you know, I do love to travel. And Borobora would have been nice. So I, you know, I think that they can still have an incredible experience and they still will if they fully give to the experience and are there and are vulnerable and are willing to really dig deep and get into that emotional part of what they need to do in order to find out if they're truly meant to be with Claire for the rest of their lives, you know?

um sorry so i don't know i'm i'm i think that because it's reality tv and it's the bachelor they're going to still make it pretty fantastic you know the dates are going to be pretty cool um but i i'm really looking forward to getting back down why the show is created this is something that i actually talked about it with rachel and some of the other bachel yesterday because we did a little virtual brunch with some fans and one thing and it was so fun to to because they have been watching the show since the beginning and yeah one thing that stuck out to me during that conversation is they brought up your season and how your dates they loved watching them because they felt like they were dates that they could do with their partner you know you were on a beach having a picnic it wasn't all of this

I think it's fun for people to see the extravagant dates and it kind of takes them out of their world for a little bit, but at the end of the day, like, that's not accessible to most people. And so to be able to watch your love story with Ryan, but some of the other guys, too, to just have more, like, a date that is accessible, where somebody can go out and take a walk and talk and sit on the beach or have a picnic and just drink champagne. That's something that's suck out to them that I think was really special. And I'm hoping maybe it's not going to make for as great of TV, but I really am, I'm excited for Claire season to see something like that

where it's more about the conversation and that interaction and the connection as opposed to oh we're going to go in a hot air balloon with a world famous violin player you know that's not real to a lot of us you're so right I haven't thought about it like that but

I feel like a lot of people enjoyed watching Ryan and I and my season because it was relatable like they just like you said it was accessible it was relatable um and i love that too now you now you've got me even more excited for clear season because i'm i think that um we can focus as viewers on the development of the relationship and to me that's why i watch the show i don't want to watch it necessarily for the fantastical elements you know i

think that's fun but i watch it because i love love i am a hopeless romantic i love watching people fall in love, be in love, you know, everything about love. So I think that it's really, truly getting down to why they created the show. And I love that. I'm so excited, even more so. We are super excited for Claire's season two. I do have a question. Does Ryan still have the bucket hat?

Oh, my God, you guys. So after the show, oh yeah, it's here. So after the show, we were talking about it. And actually a couple people have sent him screenshots of him on TV with the bucket hat. And they're like, you need to change your profile picture. So we went into his closet, Pete and Blake'sley and I, and we got the bucket hat. And she took it to the beach the next day. We have a little lake with a beach.

She took it to the beach the next day. And I did like a little photo shoot. I haven't posted a picture of it yet. But oh my God, she was so cute. in the freaking bucket hat. It's between the bucket hat and the poetry, Ryan would have me too. I loved it all. The bucket hat is making a comeback. I know. I think it was Kevin went, Astrid's fiance, who was wearing one. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was wearing one the other day. The way, it's funny that you bring up Kevin and it's not just the firefighter thing. There's something very,

when I was watching it, they're very having, I haven't been a, Ryan, but I've been around Kevin, and there's something very similar to them. I don't know what I'm not in appearance, but just the way that they are. And Kevin's great, and I can tell Ryan is too. But there's something, though, that we were talking about before that I want to ask you, okay, I can be deemed as a tad negative at times when it comes to talking about the franchise, but it's something that you said that I think is why when I speak about these newer seasons, it comes off that way.

And we can all say this, but I feel, because it worked for me, I feel extremely protective over this process because I know it can work and I know it is very real, even if it is a TV show. And so I think when I'm critiquing some of the newer things that I see, it's because I'm defensive because I'm like, this is real. Stop making a joke of it.

Stop playing around with this. This is a real thing. Do you feel that way when you watch the show, show sometimes in these in these later seasons because i'm just like you guys stop it it's it's a real thing and it i i know i get criticized for it so much but coming from you know the person who set the bar so high for all of us and paved the way and set an example do you feel that sometimes like like this process is your baby oh yeah for sure the show is part of me it's my history it's the reason that i have my family. So I am, that's a perfect word, Rachel, is protective. I, I definitely

get offended and I feel like a lot of the times I try to be real and, and speak my mind, but at the same time, I feel like all of you are my little babies. And, and so I'm protective not only over the show and them like kind of treating the show right. And, and being invested in it as I was, and being there for the, truly for the right reasons, for the love. But I'm also really protective over everybody who's been on the show. And because I feel like we are all a family. And I know that people have joked and said, very godmother. And I've even been called grandmother by someone.

Who calls your grandmother? Oh, I won't say her name, but. Her? Oh, my gosh. I apologize on behalf of whoever that was. You don't let me. Trust it, don't let me find out. I'm so sorry.

If you're a grandmother, cheese. I was like, well, grandmother, no, but I'll be called a very godmother any day. I love that. So, you know, I have been called those things. And I really do take those to heart. Like I, yes, I was there in the beginning and know the plan. wasn't for me to like be you know around for this long the show for being around this long and for me to be called the very godmother like there was never an intention back then but because

that's kind of how things have happened um i definitely i take ownership of it i love it i i love this part of my story of who I am and I maybe don't like everyone in the franchise and I haven't met like 90% of them probably but um but I I love them all because we are all connected and and this crazy discombobulated family so um yeah I I definitely am very protective over the show the the way that people talk about it and everyone involved. Trissa, I will say you have, not only have you paved the way for us other bachelorette, but you have been one of the most consistent, kind, caring people within the franchise and within all of the contestants and leads group together, you have been one of the

most standout people, especially to me, and especially during this crazy year of 2020 with everything going on to always check in on all of the bachelor's to see how we're doing to reach out and call us and that's something that i definitely cannot say for a lot of people that come from the show that's something really really special and it's interesting because i feel so lucky to have been you know i was the 14th bachelor's and so i had 13 of you reaching out beforehand and reaching out after to check in on me and to give me advice and to be someone that i can lean on through all of this and and now luckily you know we've been able to do that with claire as well before she went off on her journey so do you feel like in a way since you were the very first like if you could have had

somebody be where you are to to me and to rachel what would what advice would you've wanted before you became the lead before you were put into that position oh gosh i would have wanted to know everything all the details um and we knew nothing you know going in a totally new show, there were, there were no, for the right reasons. There was no, there were none of the, the, God, I'm having bad word day right now. That's my life. Don't worry. Every day.

It always happens to me. So, I feel like there was nothing for us to base our behavior on. And now people come in and they're like, I think they think of themselves. Like, I'm going to be the next bachelor. I'm going to be the villain. I'm going to be. I'm going to be Trista. They pattern themselves after bachelorettes, too.

Oh, yeah, it's true. Yeah. So we had nothing to go off of. So I would have loved just honestly any information. I crave information. I think knowledge is power. And I would have really, really been thankful to have anything, any information. um although you know looking back i guess hindsight's 2020 and not having anything maybe it was a good

thing because i went into it completely myself and genuine and i and that was important to me to be who i was and not um act like someone else and maybe that happens nowadays do you guys think that like they probably come in and think i'm i have this person like like whomever that they are trying to act like and especially with social media and comparing ourselves to everyone you know so important because so many people ask and I'm sure our audience who listens to this they ask I want to apply for the bachelor what what did you do what can I do and what you said is so important because you're you were just yourself that's the only person you knew how to be and you weren't trying to be anyone else I felt that same

way I hadn't watched it before. So I think the best advice you can give anyone coming in, and unfortunately Claire's not listening this, but she knows because she's talked to all of us. She knows. She knows. She knows. That girl knows exactly who she is, what she wants, what she's going after. But I would say to people, and this isn't just in regards to Bachelor, but just life in general, yeah, maybe have a role model, maybe have somebody you look to because you value what they value or you look up to them for certain things that they've done. But at the end of the day, we're all uniquely and beautifully made. You have a story to tell that's different from anyone else's.

And if you lead with that, that's going to be your best chance into getting on this show and then into succeeding on the show. Period. That's really the case. Oh, shoot. I was going to ask you something about your season. I keep going back to your season because it's just, sorry, it's just the type of season I want to see. I love it. Well, I want to know.

Like playing off of this. ask her because I'm thinking because you didn't have like there wasn't a rule book for you you just went in saying like I want to find the person who I fall in love with who I'm compatible with like and watching that back you know even though it was several years ago like it's it was so refreshing to be able to rewatch you and to just see you you were just you as Rachel was saying you you you didn't go off of anything you had no one you could compare it to so you just did what you thought in your heart and in your gut was best so knowing that you didn't really play off of anyone and didn't have any

bachelorette before you, is there anything watching your season back that you wished you would not have done that you maybe regret? There is something that I regret and I've talked about it a lot over the years. So this is the same answer people have heard it before. But on the very first bachelor, I was, I point blank asked Alex who he would choose if he had to choose then. And it It was like two nights before the final rose ceremony. And of course he's going to say me. Of course.

I mean, what guy in their right mind is not going to say the girl that he's looking at, you know, in that moment? So he said me, so I went into the final rose ceremony thinking, I'm getting engaged. This is like the biggest moment of my life. This is crazy. And I didn't. And I was heartbroken and all the things. So when I was the bachelor's, I went into it thinking, Alex had all of the, you know, this time with us, yes, it was only six weeks back in the day, but it was six weeks of solely

focusing on our relationship. And so we had all this time. And at the very end, he thought he was going to choose me and then he didn't choose me. So that tells me, oh my gosh, like I need to hold my cards close to my chest, even more so than before, because I don't know what kind of deal breaker I will hear about or if something will happen and my mind will be changed, right? So I'm in Bachelorette and Ryan is professing his love to me through notes, yes, through poems, but he handed me a note when the cameras weren't around. We were in the car. He was saying goodbye in Vail at his hometown. And he handed me this note and I literally went into the bathroom in my hotel room because I thought that my hotel room was bugged with video and cameras.

I thought the same thing. I was like, I was so paranoid, you guys. So, paranoid. So I went into the bathroom and I'm reading this note and he tells me that he's falling in love with me. And, and he continued to after that, you know, he needed, as you probably know, this show is definitely way out of his comfort zone. Still is to this day. He didn't watch the other night. He won't watch in the future just because it is an uncomfortable thing for him. And, and I fully respect that. But he was telling me that he was falling love with me and I didn't give him any inclination I mean with my body language I felt like I did you know I was very like very affectionate in in public in person whatever and I thought that he

could gander from that that I was falling in love with him too but I never said the words I never gave him the what's the word um reassurance thank you the reassurance that um I was in it and and it was him. But I just, even up to the last minute, I wanted to be sure that I was making the right decision. And so I didn't want to do kind of what Ben Higgins did and tell two people that I was falling in love with them. I didn't even want to tell one person I was falling in love with them because I didn't want my mind to be changed in some way, shape, or form and then have to backtrack and hurt his feelings like I had been hurt on The Bachelor. So that's a big regret of mine. I feel like he deserved to know where my head was at. And with the advice that I give

anyone who asks me to date, I say, just be true to yourself. Really, really listen to your gut and go with whatever your gut is telling you. But give into your emotions, give into expressing those emotions and being vulnerable and sharing. Maybe not to the point of telling two people that You love them. Something that you said made me think of when I was watching you on Alex's season is the way he described you, it was like Trista's the cool girl that I could never get. And he had the, like he said, he had a big crush on you, you made him nervous. He was so infatuated with you because in real life, he probably was like, I'll never get a Trista.

Which I laughed because fast forward to nowadays, I always say the guys now, the reason a lot of these relationships don't work is because they picked the girl they could never get in real life. They pick the girl who's their dream girl, not who makes sense and who works in real life. That's not the question that I was going to ask you, though. I remember it now. Okay. I feel like I'm learning bachelor history as we go, but I thought about this when I was watching. So how many, one, how many bachelors were before your season? Because at the time you left Alex's season, were they ever talking to you about a bachelorette, and then when you did find out, were you just completely shocked? Because I'm very curious as to how much time passed.

So there were two bachelors, just Alex and Aaron Bergey, was the second. No idea. They asked, what? I have no idea who that is. I've never heard that name before. That's okay. He's kind of disappeared, too. He, I believe he lives in Missouri or Kansas.

He's a pilot. Yeah. Anyway, so there were two bachelors, and I found out I was watching the finale in New York with a bunch of my friends of The Bachelor. And Fleiss called me, and during the finale, like I remember having to kind of go away from, you know, where everyone was sitting and take a call. and he said, are you liking watching the show? And then he was like, what do you think about being the Bachelorette? And I was like, really? But this hadn't been talked about.

Like this was. No, no, no. No, I don't believe so. I don't think they talked about it during the Bachelor. It was never, I feel like a lot of people these days go on the show thinking, oh, if it doesn't work out with them, then maybe I'll be the Bachelor or maybe I'll be the Bachelorette. And back then, that was definitely not, not a thought in any of our minds. And I don't remember ever it being a conversation with the producers about the possibility.

It was just in that moment. And that's why I had the reaction that I did because it was like such a surprise. and for him to be thinking about me as The Bachelorette, like I just felt like, wow, this is crazy. Why would you want me? And it was very humbling, but super fun and exciting too. Yeah. I was thinking about that as I was watching it. I just think it's so cool.

I can't imagine they're not even being a show, and we're like, guess what? We're going to launch an entire show off of you. I mean, my, it's just, it just goes to say what the franchise, the creator of the show, everyone thought about you as a person, which we're now very lucky to get to know as well. It all makes sense. I get it. Thank you. I love to show off you, too.

Totally. I think you were, honestly, probably the best woman to kickstart the Bachelorette journey, honestly. Like, you held your own. you were and like who you are in real life and when we talk to you and have gotten to know you throughout this past year like that is still you when we watched you back on the screen we do have a game that I want to get into but before that I need to ask you because I ask all of the bachelors this question um and I ask clear this even though she hasn't started her journey yet but she's about to and do you still wake up or like pinch yourself in moments

and say like, I cannot believe I was The Bachelorette. So even talking to you guys today, I, it like humbles me. I feel like I'm a dinosaur. I feel like I'm ancient. I feel like, and maybe it's because there are a lot of times when I'm not necessarily included in stuff, which, you know, kind of reinforces my insecurities about being super old and and they'll have you know more recent people because those people are the people who everyone watching knows you know most of our the demographic who watch the show now are way younger

and and I feel like um maybe a lot of people can't relate to me just because I'm at a different part point in my life you know so um oh gosh what was the question Becca do you pinch yourself do you pinch yourself if you still wake up and you're like yeah i can't believe for sure um i i do all the time in talking to you guys in doing good morning america like they they still want to talk to me like that is shocking to me i um being part of the reunion was oh i just loved that that day that weekend with everyone because as i've said i feel super connected to everyone who has been on the show. We've all been through this rare opportunity. And life to me is all about human connection. It is all about the relationships that

I hold the people in my life. And the fact that I get to call you guys friends who I've watched on my televisions, you know, like it is, it's really fun for me. So yes, I pinch myself all the time. And I'm just incredibly grateful for the experience, not only because I've met my husband and created a family from the show, but because I get to connect with all of you. Very well said, because the experience is so much more than you think it is. I mean, I never knew I'd make friends. I never knew I would, you know, fall in love. And I never knew that I would have this community with the basterets, you know. And I

Oh, go ahead, Becca No, no, keep going, sorry. Well, I was just going to say, and I I give that honestly, Trista, to you because I was uncomfortable, and I've talked to this before coming into the reunion just because I felt uncomfortable being the only person

of color. But by the end of it, I was like, just felt so welcomed and I wasn't even thinking about that. And then, like, you jump starting the group chat and the community that we have there. Like Becca said, you're reaching out in 2020, you've reached out to me multiple times about like what's going on

to black people in the country and it's really, really meant a lot. So I mean, it's just this, this sisterhood is one of the most beautiful things out of all of this. And I think that's why I hate when I see seasons where there's just so much caddiness shown between the women because it really, the key to survival, Becca and I've talked about this, to the show to finding your husband even at the end or wife is that having the sisterhood brotherhood within the community in the house because they will

uplift you and support you and push you forward. If you don't have that you will not succeed on the show. Okay, I could keep talking. You wanted to say something. You wanted to say something. I want you to have your point. Sorry. I know. You guys

are giving me full body chills because the fact that like we season 1, 13 and 14, the fact that we're having this conversation that we have this bond is so special and I feel kind of bad for our listeners out there who can't be part of like within this conversation. I just like want to

wrap you girls up and hug you because it is a sisterhood and like when you go on the show you think okay I'm going to live with 30 some girls and I'll hopefully make friends with some of them but the fact that like we all came from different seasons at different times and can form these friendships

and these bonds is something so special and so to follow up to what you just said Rachel, you know, the key to not surviving the show, but to really embrace it for all that it is and soak it all in is to form those friendships. And you never know who you're going to meet coming from. You never know. Okay, we got to let your kids get back to Fortnite. So we're going to wrap this up really quickly with the game. But, okay, so the game that we're going to play, does it have a name? Yeah, we're going to call it OG or Newby. So the way this is going to work is

you are known to everybody as the ultimate OG and by the way when we say OG we are not talking about original grandma because I am still mad at whoever freaking had the nerve to say that to you. OG as an original gangster

of the Bachelor world and while most of us will agree that OGs are always better, you know some people might argue that newbies can hold their own as well. So we're going to play a game OG or newbie. So here's Here are the roles. When we name an OG, or we will name an OG and a newbie across various categories,

and you have to choose whether you'd prefer the classic or the newer version. I'm nervous. Don't be nervous. You go with your gut. First thing that comes to your mind. Okay, Becca, Becca can kick it off. Okay, so to kick it off, we have to obviously start with The Bachelor. So we are giving you Alex Michelle or Peter Weber.

Oh, God. Okay, so am I choosing these people as like, I think that they were a better bachelor or a better person or what? Better bachelors. We won't have you. We won't have you get all into the weeds of it. Just a better bachelor. Who was a better bachelor? Better bachelor?

I, I, Peter. Sorry. Sorry. Really? Interesting. But it is your, so I'd, that's a tough one to start with. Yeah, I mean, he was the first and he, like any of us on the first bachelor, we didn't. didn't know what we were doing but still it was the oversized suit coats right that's why you went with

peter oversized suit coats oh my god so funny i die at watching chriserson oh it's so good so bad um okay batman's michael keaton or christian bail oh my gosh michael okay christian bail was the newer one yeah yes okay i got to go with michael keaton sorry Um, oh, gee. Um, yeah, I, I, I hate how they change like every single time a new movie comes out. There's a new Batman. Like, just stick with the originals. This is going to be a really good one for you because we're playing off of that.

Uh, we're going to give you three choices here. But for a star is born, we have Judy Garland, Barbara Streisand, or Lady Gaga. Okay. So I have not seen the original star is borns. Um, so I have to. to go with Lady Gaga just because it's the only one I've seen. And holy cow, was she not phenomenal in that movie? Yes.

I don't think anyone could beat her. I cried. I haven't cried like that since Titanic in a movie theater, like publicly. It was bad. It was bad. It was bad. Okay. James Bond.

We got Sean Connery or Daniel Craig. You didn't even need to say Daniel Craig. Sean Connery is my end-all-be-all James Bond. Yeah, we'll love him. Yeah, can't beat that. Okay, we'll switch it up from movies. We're going to go to social media. I already know how Rachel would answer this,

but we have Facebook or TikTok. Oh, I can't do TikTok. So I just took my daughter off of TikTok. Good. It's a whole long story that you guys definitely don't want to listen to, but it's just a touch mature. for an 11-year-old. And originally, when she came to me and said she wanted it,

I didn't even want her to be on it. But, yeah, I'm not a fan of TikTok right now as a mom. Trista, I'm 30 and it's a tad bit old for me. Like, it's too much for me seeing those dance moves. I'm like, I think I should be with your daughter and just delete my account. I get it. I'm not into it. We deleted her account.

We had a big discussion about it. I mean, that's a talk for another time. I'm telling you. not to be too political, but they're saying they're getting information from this app. Like, it's a big deal. The U.S. is talking about banning it. So I'm just saying. I know.

Do you know what? I was sitting in Blake's room with her the other day, and I think she was watching YouTube, and there was a YouTube, like, little box that was talking about how TikTok may be banned. And she was like, well, good thing, we deleted it. We deleted it before. That a girl. She's sitting all right. I love her.

That's right. We deleted it. Side note for all of our listeners, Blakesley actually came to the Bachelorette reunion last year. And she was like our 15th Bachelorette because Hannah Brown wasn't there because she was filming. And it was so, she's the sweetest. Yeah, she is. And I just love the bond that you guys have. She loves you guys.

And honestly, what I love now, it's like kind of a full circle thing is like she, I love that you guys are these great role models for my daughter, you know. not even taking me out of it. I love that people that I adore, she adores too. Aw. She's great. Honorary Bachelorette with us. Yeah, for sure. Oh, it's my turn.

Okay. I'm going to skip that one. Late night host, Johnny Carson, Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, my God. That's hard because Johnny Carson, holy cow. I used to love watching him when my parents would let me when I was little. but I do. I love Jimmy Kimmel. So funny story before we got married, we went on his show and he hands us an envelope as his like wedding present and it was full of cash. Stop. Are you serious? Why did this end?

He was like, I'm like your uncle Jimmy and I'm just going to hand you an envelope full of cash. Did you have some of it? Did you keep some of it? All of it. I think he gave us all, like, it wasn't a joke. Like, he was just like, here you go. I would have, I would have been stuffing it in my purse. See, Uncle Jimmy. Thanks, appreciate it. So I'm going to go with Uncle Jimmy.

I love that. I actually, I made a bet with him. And I won $10. And so to this day, it's hanging on my fridge. I will never spend the $10. That's so funny. You've never spent it. Yeah, he is like the fun uncle that, like, snakes you money under the table.

all right okay i want to get to this one because we love our singers so country diva the o g dolly parton or taylor swift oh dolly for sure i gotta go with johnny i mean nine to five i could sing that whole song to you right now i just love her she's she's amazing nothing bad against taylor swift i I mean, she's T. Swift, and I love her too, but I got to go with the O.G. You got to go with the legend. Yeah, Dahlie's still doing it. Okay, this is going to be the last one. And before I ask you, do you watch American Idol or Real Housewife? Housewives. Either. Okay, so this question doesn't make sense. Fine. I'll just go with burgers. What in Dallas?

Food. Burgers. In and Out or ShakeShack? Oh, if only we had an In-N-N-Out, but In-N-Out is not in Colorado. And please, I live in a tiny resort town. We don't have anything besides Walmart and Wendy's. So when we go to Denver, it's all about Shake-Shack. It's right down the street from my-in-laws' house.

So got to go with Shake-Shack until In-N-Out comes to Colorado. I agree with you on that one. She-Shack has more options, though. they do well because in and out they just have the burgers right I have always said that my last meal if I was on death row and I

had to pick a last meal it would be it would be a burger and fries and a milkshake so I'm so glad we ask you that question then forget American Idol and Real Housewives now I know we're all going to go on our bachelor I date is to the in and out that's pretty casual

oh trust that this has been so great long overdue as we said at the beginning but thank you so much for doing this thank you for all that you continue to do for the franchise and thank you so much for being an example for us for young women for future bachelorette's i mean the list goes on and on yes you are the og we love you you you are not only a bachelor in our eyes but such a good friend so thank you trista we love you i just thought about something there's a reason there's a reason that the women have been more successful at this at the men, not just because women do it better. That is true. But we had you to set an example and pave the way. They had Alex. That's it.

Oh, good point. I love that. But very true. You know, wait to tell Brian that you said that. Thank you. You guys are the best. I absolutely love this. And anytime you want to talk, you know, my phone is always open for you. much do you freaking love Trista? I love her. And I, and we, and we know what's up because we have our own personal and bachelor's relationships with her. But what I love is that everybody's getting to know her. You know, this new audience, it's funny, these new audience, they don't know me. I feel like maybe they started on your season or not even you if they came in with Peter

and Hannah or Colton because of the fence. So it's, it's fun, I think, and I just think it's a beautiful that people can see where all of this started. With all this greatest seasons ever, it's Trista's that we needed to see from the beginning. Yes, 1,000% she, like, just listening to her and talking to her, that is who she is. We saw it on the big screen. America's finally getting to re-see it,

but she is just, honestly, one of the kindest, most vibrant souls. And I'm so happy that she was the one to pave the way for us all. Absolutely. Now, I mean, you know, Claire's still filming, so we still have her season, but there's only 15 of us people. So go back. If you haven't seen some of the first seasons, go back and watch these badass women. Yeah, absolutely. Well, well said.

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