Bachelor Happy Hour - Oh My Boundaries! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are talking all about boundaries! We’re kicking things off with the question of the day: When did you have to draw a necessary boundary in a relationship? Then, we dive into your questions! From overstepping in-laws to marriages with no room left for mystery, we’re getting into it all. Plus, we wrap up today’s episode with Kathy and Susan’s In and Outs for 2025. Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you for joining us. We are so excited to be back for another episode of Golden Hour. How are you doing today, Susan? I'm doing great. And these guys got to check out what we've been doing. I mean, we've had some great guys on here from Joan Show. You all have to listen. We're having a great time answering all of the questions.

We had some wonderful questions, too. Some I got a little stuck on, you know what I mean? But aren't you amazed at how nice these guys are? They're great. They are great. And tall. And tall. I know they're all tall.

Oh, my gosh. So in case you're forgetting, how to submit your questions. Susan, can we? I feel like a broken record. We are broken record. People, if you have not figured out yet, I don't know, where are you? Like, what podcast are you listening to? And you know, the reason we say this, guys, is because we get people DM and I'm saying,

I don't know how to submit a question. So, Bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Submit away, baby. Really? But listen, we don't only want to hear your questions. We want to hear your comments as long as they're nice about us. We want to know how your lives are going. Those of you whose questions we've answered, please send us updates.

We really, really want to hear. That's why we're here. Yeah, you can also DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. All right, we're ready to get into this episode? Question of the day. Here we go. All right, Susan, is there a time in your life that you had to draw a necessary boundary in a relationship and if so how'd you do it it can be you know no listen not just it doesn't

have to be a guy it can be friends not me there's no boundaries between us but it could be friends your kids or partner what tell me a necessary boundary i mean like don't cross that line or else yeah but what in what situation in what's all right give me one friendship with me In a friendship, no. You'd know it if I'd tell you not to cross the line. Susan would draw that line in Italian pasta sauce and say, do not cross or I will turn you into a slice of spaghetti. In a relationship, there's been times, God, I've got to think, things I don't appreciate somebody doing. Yeah.

That I would say, please don't do that in front of me. You know what I mean? Oh, interesting. Interesting. I don't know. A person, way a person acts or something, like. I'll tell you, I, I can't think, you know, well, I can't think in a specific. I can with my kids because I have learned, you know, since my husband died, initially it was like tell them everything.

But now I've learned especially about dating. I tell my kids very little. very little about where I am, what I'm doing, who I'm dating. Oh, wait, am I dating? That's a whole not of conversation. But if I were dating. But what's a necessary boundary in like a relationship? Have you ever had that?

I'm, you know, I'm just throwing something out there that first came into my head. I think if I were dating a guy, actually this did happen to me. I'm going to have to be honest. I was dating a guy. and you know who he is for a very short period of time, you know, a few months. And he started telling, he didn't know how much money I have or how much money I don't have, how much my mortgage is, you know, my car payment. He didn't know any of that.

But he thought that he could tell me how I should invest money and what I should be doing with it. And I remember thinking, did I ask? did I ask you that's a boundary and so I finally after about the I let it go as I am prone to do the first time I'll let it go but I think it was the second time I said you know you brought this up before and I don't remember asking you that is my business and you know I appreciate I mean I tried to soften it which you know it's hard for me sometimes I said I appreciate that you care but this is something that I have to do alone or on my own or whatever. But I didn't like it.

It was like, that gave me kind of an icky feeling. Nothing like that's ever happened to you? My boundary is more like, don't lie, and I know you're lying, and that's even worse. Oh, well, somebody lies and be guilty of something and admit it than lie. But that's not really a boundary. well it is by quite it would be a boundary if you say you can you know I can put up with a lot for me for me for example another boundary for me would be cheating if I'm dating a guy and I find out he's dating somebody else I'm out that's a boundary you cross that we were talking earlier on another podcast and

if whoever's listening you might have heard this when we talked about when is it time for relationship like when does that conversation happen remember i said when we become more intimate and that has a lot to do with that like you wouldn't expect somebody that you're dating to be seeing somebody else until you have that conversation i know what i'm saying yes i do come as such a shock or a sting if you will like i'm sure many people out there deal with that yeah i mean i dated a guy again for a short period of time who I didn't know at the time

but I was the cheese the grilled cheese between the two slices of bread he was dating this woman they went on a break which don't even get me started on what that means and then we dated but I didn't know about her and then he went back to her

and I we're friends now I mean you know we see each other as friends and I asked him I said you know what the hell and he said well it was not a good answer he said i wanted to see if there was someone out there who was better who i liked more and by the way they're broken up again so to me that was like major red flag but also a boundary like uh-uh you're not i'm not your fill in girlfriend yeah and i bet you people listening to us right now have gone through this or maybe perhaps going through yes you know that'd be a good question to submit yeah all right

Kathy, we're going to do some fan questions. Are you ready? I'll read the first one. Cheryl asks, hi, ladies, I have a bit of an odd situation. I'm in. And I'm hoping you can help me out. I was opening my mail today and discovered my mother-in-law had a whole photo shoot with my baby and sent it out as a holiday card. I had no idea as she was doing this, and neither did my husband. What do I do about this? I am just so caught off guard, and I honestly feel really weird about it.

Am I overreacting? My husband thought it was really sweet at first, but is second-guessing now that he's seen me spiral, L-O-L, would really love to know your thoughts. Well, I got weirded out when I was reading it. Why wouldn't she tell you? Tell you? How about ask your permission? That's, well, let me just say if my mother-in-law were not dead, I would swear I was cute. No.

I think it's really cute, but I would want to know. Let me just say, it's not cute if it's your child and she didn't talk to you about it first. Interestingly, Cheryl, I just had this conversation. I have two grandchildren. My two married children each have one. biological child. And I used to send out Christmas cards every year with pictures of my family. And you know, since my husband's gone, I have not sent out a Christmas card. This year, I said to my kids, you know, next year I would love to be part of your photo shoot and just because then I could

send them out. What am I going to send out a picture of me and my cats? You know. Me and you. Yes, I know. I would love to. But I asked my children, I would no more. think, Cheryl, of taking my granddaughters. So what does she do? She's asking us, what does she do? What do you do? How do you address that? Mom, why would you tell me?

What I would do, no, not tell me, ask me. It doesn't matter. It's already done. That's the point. She's wanting to know how to deal with her mother-in-law. What does she do? Hey, Ma. Here's the thing.

You never asked. my and my husband's opinion, you know, your son. She asked, am I overreacting? Not at all. Not at all. Cheryl, you're not overreact. And I will tell you, Cheryl, Susan and I often, not often, but sometimes think that people are overreacting or we have opposite.

We are in a hundred percent agreement that's, you get your husband together. That's weird. And you go sit with her and you say, not only is it weird, it's inappropriate. And you wait. Oh, it is inappropriate. You know, that's how you would handle it. But I would be just like, first of all, I'd tell my husband and do it first because it's his mother. Yes, I would do that.

Seriously, why wouldn't you tell me this? Like, that's kind of weird. I mean, I love that you love your granddaughter or son, whatever it was. But don't you think you should have let me know? I'm sorry, I'm going to pick an argument with you here. Susan, I took a Christmas card with your children. It's not letting you know. it's saying it should have been Cheryl.

I'm guessing Cheryl's mother-in-law, you know, is alone. So, because she says with the baby and Santa's a holiday card, doesn't mention a father-in-law. I would never do that. I'm saying to you, if Mommy Dearest had come to Cheryl and said, hey, I would like to do a Christmas card with your baby, you know, my grandchild, what do you think? I would have said that is the sweetest thing ever. But here's that, why don't we do this? Why don't you come on our Christmas card? We'll do a photo shoot as a family.

And then you know what? You put one picture with Granny and the kid and pictures. That's what I would have done. So offered that to her, Cheryl. Have your husband offer that for next year and say, we really do not ever want you to do this again. I don't blame me for feeling weird. I felt weird reading it.

It's very weird. But you can't make it so that there's an issue between daughter-in-law, mother-in-law either. Are you kidding, May. There's already a minute here. I mean, how did she get the baby by herself? Maybe she babysits. What does that have to do with that? That's when she did it.

It's not like she stole the kid to take a picture. And your point is? I take pictures with my grandkids all the time. And your point is? And I post them all the time. My daughter never says a word. That's not mailing out a Christmas. I do.

I know. By the way. By the way, I do. And you know what? You should ask your daughter. My kids are very private about their kids. I never. I think a lot of people will be surprised to know I have a 20-month granddaughter, 20-month-old granddaughter.

My daughter will not allow me to post any pictures of her. And let me just say to you, one of the people. Why? Because it's her child and it's her privacy, and I respect her wishes. I don't put anything up on the Internet that has my children or my grandchildren without their permission so that's that's the way it should be so if your daughter doesn't care that's fine but and clearly she doesn't because she's never said anything to you but no not at all yeah so i'm saying a lot of times we're doing it together that's different she's there even if not i would put yeah if she

asked you not to would you well of course there you absolutely the point here is Cheryl your mother-in-law needs to ask in the future anything that pertains to your daughter unless she's giving her a million dollar, you know, life insurance policy or, you know, a trip to you or whatever, then keep your mouth quiet, Cheryl, and just enjoy it. Let us know, sorry it happened, but hope next Christmas card is better. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do.

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Okay, moving on. Allie writes, ladies, this is really going to be TMI. For all you old people out there, that's too much information. shame. But I need someone else to chime in on this. Okay, here it is. Oh, this really is TMI. My husband has hemorrhoids and is insisting I have a look at them and help him with this medication application. I'm going to be honest. I can't do it. Like, are we allowed to have any boundaries in our marriages or is this necessary? I want him to feel his best, of course, but this is a big no for me. Am I being fair to him? Thanks. And sorry. Ha-ha. Go ahead, Susan. What's your answer on that one?

No, you're not being fair. You're his wife. Who is he going to ask? Yes, you do that. Absolutely. Susan. What if you get old and you're in depends and you're taking care of him? You're not going to wipe his butt? This is probably going to be erased and edited by the powers that be. But I'm going to give you A little analogy. You go right ahead. When girls become women. They get their period. Yeah.

Do they ask someone to shove a feminine product? That is not the same thing. It is exactly the same thing. Get a mirror. It's her husband. He's having issues. I don't care. I'm my daughter's mother. Same thing.

Get a mirror and figure it out, buddy. Absolutely not doing it. You wouldn't do that for your husband? I'm asking, Kathy, you're silent. Because I'm sitting here with my husband was here and he was struggling going, Kat, take a look at this. I don't know if I'm doing it right. You couldn't, you wouldn't do that.

That isn't what she said. She said she wants him, he wants her to apply the medicine. I'm going to hand him a mirror and say, figure it out. Ew. Exactly. It's ew. That's why I'm handing him a mirror. It's all, ew.

So put on gloves at your husband. and damn it, you've got to be able to do that. Absolutely. I mean, okay, let me say, would I do it? I probably would do it once. And then I would, alley, and then I'd hand him a mirror. It's your husband, honey. Yes, you have to do.

I mean, look at, no, she doesn't have to. Yes, she should. She's not being fair to him. Why? Why can't he use a mirror? It's her, because he can't figure it out, obviously. do a demo here's the ointment here's a mirror

really you go through all that rather than just bend over let me say boop put it in you're done that's all I don't think anything out of that I would do it for you I would do it for my kids I do that for anybody

Susan when I come to see you I don't understand the last thing you like you can take this to the bank the last thing I am ever ever going to ask you to do is to a plus of i don't have hemorrhoids but if i did you are the very last person i will ever ask i would i if you ask me you know i seriously and i love you you know i i really would help you in any way i could

but my first course of action my first deal would be susan here's some maybe he's 300 pounds can't bend over it there's a lot of me when he's cat so wait if we grow old together catho that's where we're heading okay yeah and i need some help down there you're not you're not going to do it, then I'm going to rethink Rowan old with this friend. Susan, let me just say to you, if this is where we are in our friends, first of all, people already think that we're a couple, and I keep right now, we are not a couple. We are not a couple. We're not a couple. We're so much. But we fight like one. Wait, we're so much not a couple. I could care less of Susan as hemorrhoid sucks to be her.

she's cold I'm cold get over right go on so like everybody that's actually listen to this please if you've never DMed us before

do it now because I really want to know how many people out there would do that for their husbands I bet you Kathy I'll bet you dinner or a bottle of wine one or the other minute

I said Susan I said I might do it on show mail I said I might do it once and then hand of a mirror. I've done it here. Now she's might.

In the beginning it wasn't might. I'm just saying. Yeah. Go ahead. All right. Anonymous. Right. Hey, ladies, I have a work problem that I could really use your help with.

My boss is way too honest with me. Oh, God. He's talking about his hemorrhoids with her probably. And it's impacting my performance at work. How do I talk to him about this? Basically, whenever I do something that, warrants critiquing, he never all caps holds back. It's so discouraging. And I don't think he does it on purpose. I just catch myself listening and wanting to yell. I get it if you can't, if you can stop now,

but obviously I can't do that. Any ideas on how I bring this up and go about talking about it? Thank you. I love you guys so much. Wait a minute. She said it very nicely. My boss is waiting. too honest with me. I don't think that's what she means. I think what she means is he doesn't know when to critique it. No, it's okay to critique. I think what she's really saying,

Anonymous, I think what you're really saying is he doesn't know when to stop. He makes this point and he beats it to a pulp. He just keeps saying it. He reiterates it. He says in a different way. You know, and you know what? He's your boss.

You're screwed. You got to listen. Yeah, a little bit. You're screwed. If you do have the relationship that you can get him alone and sit them down and say, listen, I know I make mistakes and I know you're here to teach me, but I heard you the first time. Now, if you repeat the mistake, then he might have a right, you know. But you're embarrassing me or you're making me feel inadequate or whatever word you choose to use,

but you need to tell him because he's never going to stop. I can't imagine what his wife goes through. That's a kind of guy is. As you were talking, Susan, I was thinking back when I had a boss. And I would never have said that because the boss, unfortunately, you know, you don't like it. Go find a new job. I think you could say to him, anonymous, I think you could say, you know, I'm really trying hard. And I heard what you said.

And I'm really going to try hard. And if you can find a way to politely interrupt him, before he goes, you know, on the fourth and fifth time, you know, when he starts down on the second time, you could, you know, in other words, okay already. Yeah, well, no, see, that's what, that would be rude. Say, you know, Mr. Jones, you know what, I, I hear you. You said it so, in other words, compliment him on his critiquing. I heard you very clearly. I'm going to work really hard on that. I'm going to get back to work. Thank you so much for pointing it out. In other words, try to interrupt him in a polite way after the second time instead of just listening.

And do it privately. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he's, I'm sure he's talking to her privately because no boss critiques you in front of other people. Well, yeah. And he never, all caps, holds back. It's discouraging and I don't think he does it on purpose. So she's giving him an out at the same time she's bitching about him.

Yeah. So either you've got to get a new boss and go somewhere else and work, don't make mistakes, or sit down and talk to him. Yeah, I would sit down and talk to because I would end up resenting him. Yeah. I mean, good. I'm guessing this is a relatively young, new worker to the workplace. I guess.

Maybe. Anonymous. Yeah. So good luck. Let us know how it goes. Try to talk to him and see how it goes. See if you can. And she's catching herself wanting to yell.

I get it. can stop now. Well, you know. But say it nicely. She obviously feels bad because she made a mistake and he's critiqued. Be like St. Susan. Say it nicely. But wait, I want to.

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Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called. emergency intercom if you're a crime junkie and you love crimes we're not the podcast for you but if you have unmedicated

ADHD oh my god perfect and want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble yes yes then emergency intercom is the podcast for you open your free iHeartRadio app

search emergency intercom and listen now what would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth. Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock

a prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed.

From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. So today, Kathy, we are going to play a little game for 2025 ins and outs.

And what I mean by that, we're going to list off things that we think are in for this year and things we want to leave in 2024. All right. You go. You start, Susan. Okay. So I want to leave in 2024 negative thoughts about dating. And what's your in?

My in is be open. I don't know that I'll go back on the dating sites just yet, but be open to meeting some new people. All right. And in for me will be trying to, cook more meals, I eat healthy, but that's going to be an in for me in 2025, giving more thought to what I'm eating and trying to cook for myself. What's out for me is a big one, is spending time with people that I don't want to spend time with. Amen. I agree with that

one. And in for me is to focus on eating healthier. Yeah. And fresh vegetables and more of them. What's your out? Fast food. Oh, whoa. Seriously. For all of you, that's going to be a tough one for Susan. It sure is. Okay. What's in for me is spending more time with my grandchildren. But what's out for me is, well, it doesn't have to relate to that. What's in for me is spending more time with my grandchildren. What is out for me is feeling that I have to go to the gym every day and there's something bad if I don't. Like I'm going to give myself a little more grace about not going to the gym every day. Good for you. Good for you. And in for me is to focus more on going to the gym.

No. And for me is to be more conscious about my budget. Oh, good one. And my spending habits. What's the out? Yeah, to spend it like I did last year. Oh, you just threw me. I had such a good in and out.

Oh, my gosh. I really had a great one, and that just blew my mind. And in for me, an in for me is to, I really want to be thoughtful about where I spend money and how I spend it. But you are. Well, but I want to be better about it. And out for me is, oh, I don't even know. You know, honestly, for me, this game is hard because I, I'll tell you why. I try during the year to evolve and navigate situations and make improvements.

It's the same reason I don't do New Year's resolutions because that's kind of how it feels like a little bit of a New Year's resolution, but I'm not saying, okay, on January 1st, I'm going to. Right. And that's what like, so one of my biggest things, and it's not a resolution, and I tried in 24th. So in 2025, it's going to be the same. And in for me is to try to listen more and talk less. You took the words out of my mouth. I'm going to try to slow my role and pay attention and get, let.

I do let people talk and I do listen. I told you this story. I believe I told you this one time, a man that I was dating years and years ago. And we were pretty thick. And he made a comment. and I was paying attention. That was the worst part. He said, now's your chance to listen.

It was like the demons coming out of me. I turned my head like the exorcist. I said, what did you just say to me? What the hell did you do? I was listening. So I think that was just rude. You know what I mean? So I'm always conscious about hurting people's feelings or something like that.

That's what that just made me think of. I think, yeah, I think, you know, an in for me is, I think I'm a kind, nice person and I, and I know you know I am. I think sometimes I'm, but what's out for me is like, I don't, I, I already said, I don't want to waste time with people I don't want to waste time with, but I also, I want to be even more. I made great strides in 2024. 2025, I want to even be more live and let live. Like, I don't care what you do. You're happy, you know, it's not. fringe you know on me go for it you know um so you're right these feel like resolutions but you and i both but we try to live our best life you know all the time every day every day and so you know what's in and out it fads trends you know i really don't care i mean i don't see that's my my weakness well yeah susan in for susan is whatever's in the fashion magazine

It's not only Susan in, she's a thousand percent in in every color. What's out for Susan is what she wore last year. And you know what's in for Kathy? Susan's clothes from last year. It's perfect. Those blue pants that I bought when we were in the mansion on our show. We had that one day I'm shopping. I still want them.

I still want hundreds and hundreds of dollars that sweater in those fit. I wanted to buy them. I want them. You know, now they'll be too small on me or too big or something. thing. I wanted them. All right, listen, I don't know what's in or out for 2025, but here's what's in for me. Our friendship is in for me. And what's out for me, I don't care. Friendships, as we get older, they're so valuable. And people make jokes about us dating. We're not dating. I think we're just at an age where we know the value of friendship and having someone you can call. And you know what's so important

people, everybody listening, ladies and gentlemen, about friendships is you can bear your soul. Yeah. You can tell each other's secrets that you're not proud of, maybe, or you're excited about whatever. Yeah. And you always know you can call your friend. Yeah. And share it with her. Yeah.

And that's, and you know what's sad is that when you say that, some people think, oh, they must be together. We're together. we're together because we support each other through our lives. But anyway, I hope everybody. And we like to entertain people. I can't wait to get together and do some videos. Oh, I know. We're going to be together in a few weeks.

That's going to stay tuned. Yes, we're going away. Our annual St. Hart, I can't wait. All right. Well, speaking of, got to think about packing for that. And that's going to do it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. We love, we hope that you love as much as we. do, listening to us chat and hope to get, you know, we get to know each other better. We hope you

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