Bachelor Happy Hour - Our Golden Joan is Here | Golden Hour

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

Today on Golden Hour, Kathy and Susan are joined by fellow Golden woman Joan, who opens up about dating, dealbreakers and more. From dating as a widow to navigating romance in your golden years, we're... covering it all! Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:00:50 But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.
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Starting point is 00:02:42 And today we have such a special guest. Kathy and I love her. It's our friend and our golden sister, Joan. Hi, Joan. Thank you so much for being here. Hey, Joan. I'm so happy to be here with you guys. I haven't seen you in eons. I know. It feels like forever. I know, but I do talk to you. We saw you at, oh yeah, family feud. Family feud, celebrity family feud. Wait, doesn't it feel like, like two months ago? It does. I swear when you said family food, I was like, oh yeah. Oh, yeah. It seems like life is so busy now. I know same for you guys that like weeks just fly by and like you can life is going to fast right now. It's so true. Wait, what did you think of family feud? Did you have fun? That was so fun. What an experience just to even be on a game show, which is a little bit of a fear of mine that I'm going to do something stupid or whatever. But once we were done, like, I really could take it all in and so enjoyed it. And like what? Like another first thing, you know, another first that I've done at the age of 61 that never thought I would do.
Starting point is 00:03:47 How different was it, Joan? How different was it watching it and being on it? Oh, gosh. So first of all, Steve Harvey is hilarious. He does a stand-up comedy routine every time, like, cameras are not rolling. The audience is in for such a treat, who knew, that there was, like, this whole other element of comedy going on when you're not, when the TV is not rolling. So he's funny on TV. He's hilarious in person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I love him. I absolutely loved him. And I love his teeth. I bet you do. But I think our questions are really hard. Harder than the ones, like, I practiced a little bit. every once in a while I turn it on, try to answer some questions. I thought ours were a lot harder.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You know, I was under the impression for the celebrity family feud. They would give easier questions so we don't appear. I know they said that. I thought they were hard too. Ours were hard. I was like, oh, my God. Every time they said a question, I was like, oh, I'm going to look so stupid. I have no answer.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Well, Joan, I can tell you this. I love watching you on TikTok. I mean, you go viral. You are superb out there. How does it feel watching yourself and being so recognized by everybody? It's so weird. I don't think I haven't done a ton of TikToks lately. I did a lot of cooking ones.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And for some reason, that was what became popular, which was great because it's what I like to do more than doing the goofy ones where I feel stupid. I like doing the fashion ones a little bit. Those are a lot of work. You're good at the fashion ones. Right, Katz.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah, Joan, let me just say, first of all, I don't cook as most people now. So watching you cook was one thing, but I barely can get dressed in the morning, watching you change 16 outfits. I know it's like the magic of camera, but I was like, oh, my God, I was exhausted watching you do it. And she looks good in all of them. I mean, well, that's not true. I only put on ones that I like good in, so that's a little bit. But I have to give all the credit to my daughter because she does all of, like I put the outfits on and then she does all the great stuff to make them, you know, to do the transitions and stuff. it's all about the transitions really the outfits are good the transitions that are original and fun
Starting point is 00:05:59 make it a popular video right and does she help you with what's trending and things like that when you she does i have her and then two daughter two girls that my daughters grew up with so i have like a group of my two daughters plus these other two girls that they grew up with that are totally into all of this love it all love the bachelor love um like they they you know they're millennials They love to talk and they love, you know, Instagram. So they tell me what's going on. I have no idea. We have, Kathy and I have to come to your house.
Starting point is 00:06:29 You have to come to my house because I have these four people that are really good at it. But I, it's exhausting and it takes a long time. And I was really, I just want somebody to pick out clothes for me and I'll get dressed by myself. That's all I need. I know, I know. You have to really be, so I did like a Zara hall and, you know, I've done a couple of different halls, which is, by the way, very expensive to do. And so you have to order a lot of clothes. and then, you know, try them all on.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And I thought, oh, I'll order all these clothes. And then I'll, you know, do the Zara Hall, which then I'll take, you know, most of them back. Well, I end up liking them. Oh, yeah. Like, you know, $1,000 later, I have all these clothes that I didn't really need it, but I end up liking them and then didn't take them back. So I have to be careful when I do that. So they were a marketing genius, Joan.
Starting point is 00:07:11 They directed to you. You're right. I'm so global. I thank God for my daughter as well, but I have to go to Virginia to do these things. I know, I know. Maybe our daughter and my daughter can meet at my house kind of, halfway. And then there's my daughter. My daughter shops online all the time and says, I don't know where she came from because truly, I'm just like, it's like a nightmare for me to have
Starting point is 00:07:34 to shop. Yes, we know, Kathy. I shop for you. I know. We know. But, Joan, you've always had fabulous taste. Thank you. Okay, Joan, I'm going to ask you. Oh, no. Tell me. I want to know about dating. I knew you were going to ask them. I was trying to come up with a good answer and I don't have one because dating is still hard. I haven't figured out the formula yet. I don't love the online dating.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Like I've said before, I don't think people are super truthful. I had an online date that I walked into the restaurant and I looked around. I was meeting this man at, we're going to sit at the bar at a restaurant and have a drink. And I looked around and I was like, oh, I guess he's not here. And I went and sat down and I see this man waving from across the bar at me. And I'm looking at him and it doesn't look at anything like his picture. He looks completely different.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And so I just feel like that is kind of typical of what you get when you do online dating. So then like what else do you do? Like I know I say yes to social things. I go out a lot. I'm very social. But in the normal everyday interaction of being out with friends and whatever, I haven't met anybody. Wait, are you on dating apps? Me either.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I don't like them. And a dating up, I know. So a dating up that was like a full-time job. And I have a full-time job. So to stay on top of the messages and being, you know, witty and having a good, like, you know, repertoire with somebody with, you know, it takes a lot of time and a lot of thought. And if you don't answer, then I think, you know, you feel like you're being rude to them, but you're at work. And Susan, she still has time to shop for clothes. Go figure.
Starting point is 00:09:19 She's smart. Let me ask you this. What's better about dating later in life versus prior to your marriage, dating when we were really young? What's better, huh? Or is it? So I guess I probably, I'm probably better at judging a person. So I can go on probably one date and not like be lured by maybe they're really attractive or, you know, maybe I think that they drove a really nice car. Like those are things that probably would have mattered way more to me when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And those things are important. You know, I want somebody who is attractive, but I probably will give, I know I will give them a lot more time and spend a lot more energy trying to get to know them. And they want a nice car, too. I mean, we want the nice car. That's definitely a pro. Okay, so, Joan, you know, it's been a while since we've been on the show, but we've all stayed in contact.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I want to know, because Susan and I talk about this sometimes, what are some of your favorite memories from the show? Oh. So many good memories. Well, you realize I was only the first one of the first days. Oh, we know. We know. I mean, every one of the seven days was a great day. I'll tell you. Wait, you were only on seven days?
Starting point is 00:10:35 I left after seven days. It was three episodes because, you know, the first episode is just the first 90s. It was a real seven days. It was seven days, but it ended up being three episodes. So I can tell you. tell you the like turning point in the whole thing was our first night at the mansion when I was talking to everybody and I felt like I am finally in a room with people that are like me because I have a lot of single friends and I looked around I was like now this is what I needed
Starting point is 00:11:07 like I went there with a lot of fear and I think I became a much braver person because I learn from you guys. I learned that, you know, that doing this crazy thing, putting yourself out there helps you grow. And so I got to say the best day of all was the first day I met all of you guys. Aw, we feel that way too. We loved you right from the get-go. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota. It's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:52 He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now. wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by Basketball Legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind.
Starting point is 00:12:57 But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness. Psychobabble
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yes, yes Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you Open your free IHeartRadio app Search Emergency Intercom And listen now I remember sitting on the bus with you Joan Talking about our daughters Yeah, we did
Starting point is 00:14:00 On the way to the other mansion For the Directive Day I'll remember forever That was And that was a really good conversation Because like you know We share like pretty deep stuff Really quickly
Starting point is 00:14:11 into our, you know, getting to know each other. Well, because both of our daughters. Talk about that. What happened? So both of our daughters had difficult pregnancies and difficult births. And my daughter ended up, you know, everything was fine, but she ended up having a C-section. She had a really hard time when she came home, a little bit of postpartum depression. And Kathy's daughter had a difficult birth and had a sick baby for quite a while.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Same and C-section too. C-section also. And it was very difficult. Both of our daughters were kind of angry at us for leaving. them thinking that we should have stayed home, we should have given up this incredible opportunity and stayed home with them. And both of us considered doing that. It was really, really hard making a decision to leave. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I did. I've struggled with it terribly. Well, wait, Joan, my daughter had her baby, said my daughter's baby was almost three months old.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. So it was a little bit different. Yeah, my daughter's baby was eight days old. Baby was fine. Very different. She was having a hard time, you know, adjusting to it. It was hard. It was hard. And she had had, you know, a high-risk pregnancy. So a lot of what, a lot of leading up to the birth was hard also. And so then the birth was hard. And, you know, and that's why I ended up having to leave. But it was so great to be able to share. I remember being in the lima with you and you shared.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You were so worried about her. And I was like, oh, my gosh, how are you doing this? And you're like, Susan, I haven't eaten in two weeks. My nerves are shot, but I really want to do this. And I held your hand and said, it's going to be good, but you got to eat. You got to eat. But she didn't.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But she doesn't eat. I eat and I eat. You sound like my mother. I eat, I eat. But you're right. How funny is that? Like I literally just met you 10 minutes before. And we shared these like big life events with each other.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And we have continued to do that. So I think our friendships are solidified in a really quick way. Do you think that's because of our age, our maturity, like compared to the younger generation? Do you think the girls bond as fast as we did? I think that we have more important conversations. They're probably talking way more about, I don't know, what are you wearing? Fashion and stuff like that. He's going to talk about that stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:24 But we talked about, like, we have like a lot richer lives. Like they don't have kids. They don't have, you know, elderly parents. They don't have big things in their lives that are like taking over their brain, you know, other than, you know, fashion or what beach they're going to this summer or whatever. all great things. You know, I wish my brain was, you know, encompassed. I actually have a question for both of you. You both have lost.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Both of your husbands are gone. How long afterwards do you think not only were you ready or did you start thinking about being ready? Kathy, you want to go for sure. No, heck no. You got it. Heck no. So I'm still thinking about it, honestly.
Starting point is 00:17:05 So I decided, so year one came and I was like, okay, that's not even close there's no chance i'm dating anybody year or two came around and um i was like i'm not getting any younger and it's been two years and so you know i'm not getting any prettier and any i'm getting i'm not getting any less wrinkles i'm not you know i thought i'm wasting good valuable time so i really need to start dating and i was at a restaurant with a friend of mine and we were sitting at the bar having dinner and i was like look around this place everybody here is a couple And I said, how in the world am I going to meet somebody? Like, I spent two years since John passed away.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And it's like, I feel like it's time. I truly believe it's time. But I don't know how to do it. And she's like, you're going to have to go in a dating nap. And I was like, oh, God, I so don't want to go to a dating nap. I've looked at them. I just, like, it sounds like a lot of work, which is. We all know it is.
Starting point is 00:17:57 So I was right, even though I hadn't been on it. And I came home that night. I was kind of in like a little bit of a mood because we had been at this restaurant that was very big and very crowded. And every single person there was. a couple and i sat down on my sofa and i turned on the bachelor and it was like the universe was talking to me because there was an ad for this new show and there it is and it said fill out this form and i was like well i picked up my phone and i filled out the form and like here i am but i got
Starting point is 00:18:29 to the house and the mansion and i still wasn't super ready honestly i was nervous i was like you know i want to be open to love but i'm not really sure i am am and but this will be a good experience and it'll help and my heart opened up in that literally seven day period is when the the switch flipped a little bit for me and it's still kind of flipping I'm kind of awesome it is I don't think you'll ever forget that feeling of loss you either Kathy but you do know you're young enough and you do want to find a partner yeah so yeah for me it's a little different. I would say, even though I did some dating, I would say it was at least three or four years. And now, for me, it's been five years. But I, like you, Joan, I learned so much from being
Starting point is 00:19:15 on the show and changed a lot. But I want to know if you, you know, if you had the chance to do another reality show, would you do it looking for love? And how would you do things differently? Hmm. So I would certainly do the Bachelor kind of format. Like I wouldn't do, like there's certain ones that are just too chancy for me. So I would do, I would do another Bachelor type show where you actually get to meet the person and spend the time with the person. I would personally really love to do Bachelor in Paradise. I feel like they spend so much more time together and they have a lot more opportunity to really get to know each other. Joan, I'm going, wait, I got to interrupt you. I'm going on record right now. I would do bachelor and parodies, Susan, you've got to agree with me. No bugs. Got to have air conditioning. I'm not, no bikinis.
Starting point is 00:20:04 You could do a bikini, Joan. No bikinis, no bugs. No conditioning. Thank you very much. And an open bar. I'm going to need air conditioning in my room. Yeah, maybe a cruise. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:20:14 We'll do it on a boat. Okay, that'd be fun. Yeah. Are you ready now? Are you ready to find love, Joan? Um, I really want love. I want to have somebody in my life. I feel like life is better when you share it with somebody.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I truly believe all of that. As far as my heart being completely open, I think it's nine-tenths of the way there. So I think I just need to spend a little more time in like an environment, like the Bachelor environment. I so am not, like I really want to find love. I just don't want to go to the work of going on a dating website. If there was another way to do it, I would be open to it.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I so would be, if there was like a speed dating, okay? Remember the old speed dating thing that people used to do? I would love to try that. I don't think they're doing it anymore. Or I would love to go to an event that had like a bunch of people just like me and you guys, like men and women, all of our age. And you just could walk around with a glass of wine and talk to each other. Like I feel like that's so much more natural and you really get to know somebody.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I also think the right one. When he is the right one, you're going to know it. Yeah. Yeah, but how do you meet somebody is the problem? The initial step that it seems to be. John, I want to know, like, seriously, Susan touched on it, though. What advice would you have? You know, people ask me, since my husband passed away, people ask me,
Starting point is 00:21:42 what dating advice would you give people? It's easier, I think, to give dating advice to people in their 20s and 30s. But what advice would you give to somebody, you know, in their 50s or 60s? in 70s who really want to date and find someone, what's the best piece of advice you'd give them? That's a really hard one. So I believe that the whole message from RC's and the message of hope is probably the most important thing. So if you have hope, then your next step needs to be action. So I would say, you know, if you feel like your life would be more fulfilled if you had a partner, like I do feel that way. I feel like my life would be better if I have
Starting point is 00:22:24 have a partner and you only get one life to live and you it's your responsibility to make the best of it nobody else is going to do it do it for you then you need to take action and I'm you know I should be giving myself the other advice because I feel like I've been so busy I haven't taken a lot of action and I really do need to do that and as I sit here talking to you like I I'm like okay I got to do something so I think hope and action need to be together and that's confidence what about confidence of confidence you know i feel like i've become a lot more confident i don't think i was not confident in the dating world like i like going out meeting people i'm not super shy when it comes to that but i felt like i feel it more like i deserve it now like i deserve having love in my life
Starting point is 00:23:09 not that it just maybe could happen like i need like i feel confident to go out and seek it out like i want it like i said if there was some way other than a dating app that could get me there I'd be there in a heartbeat. I'm over them, too. Over the dating apps. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book,
Starting point is 00:24:34 The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. that, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. So have you ever received or what's the best advice anybody has given you for dating? Hmm. Probably give everybody a chance. So don't say no because of small little things.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Say yes. What does it matter if you go out and have a trip with somebody? Wait, wait, are we talking hair on his head, teeth in his mouth? What are we talking here? Yeah. Hair in his head. to pick about I'm okay with a ball guy my husband my late husband was bald and I thought he was very sexy so that's fine got to have all your teeth that's good um I want somebody who's fit
Starting point is 00:26:28 I want somebody who takes care of themselves um I want somebody who is active who wants to have no use to guys no use to guys no used to guys like you say exactly yeah so wait I I want to know Joan like we both have all three of us have kids about the same age what do your kids think about you dating, continuing to date, and looking for Mr. Wright? So it depends on which kid you have. So I have four. I have two boys and two girls. So one of my sons and one of my daughters love this idea. So my oldest son, so number one and three, Nick and Allie both love the idea of me dating. They think it's a really good idea. Allie is married. Nick is engaged. Nick has said to me on more than one occasion,
Starting point is 00:27:13 I want you to have what we have. We have all found love in our life all for my kids. love or are you in relationships. And they and he said, I want you to have what we have. And I've always said, I don't want to be a burden on you guys. You know, I don't want to, you know, grow old alone and you guys think of to take care of me. He goes, first of all, mom, you'll never be a burden on us. We love being with you. And my kids do. I think they come over here all the time. I love being with them. They're my favorite people in the world. And luckily, they like being with me still. But they do realize that my life would be better, you know, if I didn't just have to rely on them for my, you know, I have lots of friends.
Starting point is 00:27:47 for social interaction, but they want me to have love. So two of them want me to, I think they all four want me to have love. Two of them are okay with me actually like doing something about it. Do you think they would be very accepted? Like they'll accept whoever it is. Or do you think any of them will be like, mom, he's not the one? Are they opinionated like that? So I think it depends on like the degree.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Like if I was with somebody that they really thought was not a good person or something, like that they would tell me absolutely they would tell me but i think you know would you like i um yeah i think i would because i think that they have my best interest in mind so i think i would listen yeah um but i think in general they would never say anything if they knew i liked somebody or feelings for somebody they would never say anything unless it was you know pretty major and how long before you would introduce a gentleman to your family yeah that's a good question I have introduced one or two guys to them. Where are they?
Starting point is 00:28:49 I want their numbers. I can't do. I just, so with both of those, I wasn't really ready. So I think my kids knew that these were not long-term people. I just invited him over for dinner or something. It wasn't like some, like, here's my family. I want you to meet so and so. Like, we're really serious.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It was just like, oh, he's going to come over and watch the Super Bowl with us or something. You know, it was pretty menial. So I introduced them, but it wasn't like. this is the guy and I want you to meet him and like you know him be a part of your life too like I know personally I got nervous when it was time to meet my sons I was like oh god are they hard on or they are they no not not in the moment but I'll hear something later oh is that right mom mom no they didn't like them no they like them they just it was me okay I'm gonna I got to ask the question the elephant in the room give it
Starting point is 00:29:43 what's happened recently. Joan, if you found the guy you love, would you move? Ooh. So I have like a vision of how this would work because certainly in our age and especially with what we just did. We just did a whole show about like, you know, how do you meet somebody and end up being with them? Like that was a subject, certainly. In fact, it was the first thing that Gary asked me. Like, how do you, if I live in Indian and you live in Maryland, how in the world would we make that work or how would you see that working? And my reply, I was, and I still believe this, is that you have to have more than one home because I'm not willing to leave my kids and my family. And really, my friends, my son of my mother is 92 years old.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So, like, I have to be here. She relies on me. So does my mother-in-law? So I would not leave here. I couldn't leave here, honestly. I would be deserting people that need me. So I could envision, and that being said, I wouldn't want a guy to leave his family for me because that tells me something about him. If he would leave his family for me, then he does not have the same kind of relationship with his family that I have with mine. And we're not going to be compatible. That's just not going to work. So we're going to have two homes. We have two homes and go back and forth. And then maybe have one more home. So I already have a home. I'm assuming the guy. I like the way she thinks, Kathy. One at the beach, one at the mountain. Joan, I'm available. I'm available to be a house manager.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Yeah, with where, you know, a vacation home where everybody needs his. kids, my kids, grandchildren, you know, where everybody would enjoy being and we could be a big happy family. Joe, it is so nice of you to invite Susan and me to come. Thank you so much. When the kids aren't there, your guys are there. And if you get a vacation home, you're invited me too, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I just got to find the guy and then the three homes, but that's just a detail. Two work. Okay, we're going to play a little game, and this is for all three of us. Okay. And it's about relationships. And what would you rather? Okay, you ready? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Would you rather cook a fancy meal together or order in takeout? Oh, gosh. Well, it probably depends on the day. So a weekday, order in, take out, whatever. But on a weekend. So one of my favorite date activities is cooking with a guy with like a couple of bottles of wine and some good food and some music on in the background, dancing in the kitchen. drinking wine, having fun cooking, and then sitting down, and, you know, sometimes it's 11 o'clock
Starting point is 00:32:13 at night by the time you get the meal done after, you know, goofing off and playing, having a great meal. And it's one of my favorite dates, honestly, so I'm going to have to do that one. I'm feeling like you read my profile when I was online dating because that's exactly what I wrote. Will you marry me? Yeah. Wait, what do you think I would do? Oh, I know the answer. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:32:35 That's a no-brainer. No, fancy restaurant. Take you out. What do you think, Susan? You would definitely order out. You're both wrong. I am right with Joan. If I could find a guy who would want to cook with me.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Who would cook with me? Exactly what Joan said, music, have a bottle of wine. Do it with it. What I don't like is cooking by myself. Wait a minute. I've known you how long and you're admitting that you do know how to cook. You just don't like to do it alone. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Write that down, Joan. right that day. Bats ordination, you heard it here first. It's been recorded. It's true, though. That's true. I love it. Okay, here's another one. Would you prefer to work out with your partner exercise together, or would you like to do that separately? Oh, I'm an ugly exerciser. I got to do it separately. I don't want to be in the same house as me. I, like, I sweat and I go, why am I doing this? I look terrible. I'll put any makeup on. I put my hair back. I look awful. Yeah. Okay. This one's for me is easy. I work, as you all know, I work out every day. I go to the gym many days a week. And when I'm working out, I am not chit-chatting. I'm not checking my phone. I am working out hard.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So I'm going with workout separately. Me too. How about you, Susan? I think I'd like them to be there in case I'm doing something wrong. Like, babe, bend your knees when you do that. Don't arch your back. You're going to get hurt. No, Susan's going to say, babe, lift that weight for me, please, honey.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Put that off the back for me? No, I would not. You would have a defibrillator? All right, Susan, I got a hard one for you, Joan. Okay. Oh, jeez. Ready, Joan? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 You know I'm bringing it. Have a spontaneous sex life or a scheduled one. Oh, God. That's so easy. Spontaneous. Absolutely. I remember years ago, we had this friend, this couple friend, and we were over at their house for dinner, and there was like maybe six couples, and they were talking
Starting point is 00:34:38 about their Wednesday nights. Oh, it's scheduled. Ever Wednesday. And I walked out of there. I was like, these are the weirdest people, John. We're not ever going out with them again. They scheduled their sex. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Joan, wait a second. Susan, I don't know about you. Wait a second. Susan, you'll get a second here. But when I had young kids and I had three, you know, you couldn't just say, hey, kids, make your own dinner. Dad and I were going to go up and hop in the sack, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So when you have young families, sometimes you have to schedule a date night and what comes after or what comes before. So maybe at this stage of life, what about you, Susan? Well, I agree with you when we had kids. We had to get Saturday night or Friday night whenever the babysitter would come. Yeah. But I like spontaneity. Absolutely. I feel like Saturday night was a given. Like you're going to go out. You're going to drink a little bit. You're going to be with your friends. And you're probably going to have sex when you come home. But I feel like, you know, like going to bed. The kids are in bed. I think Joan just said she has drunk sex. I think that's what I just heard. I like it when I least expect it. And they get to turn
Starting point is 00:35:43 you on. You know, you're not really in the mood, but they do the right things. Yeah. And you're like, okay. Okay. I got to jump off this podcast. I got to go find a guy who wants some spontaneous sex. Okay. Here's a good one. Would you prefer to travel the world together or build your dream home together. Oh, God, that's such a hard one. I like both. I knew it. I knew it. I know. I'm obviously. Oh, God, I have to pick one of those. Wow. Okay. Come on, Joan. That's not that hard. It's easy at this stage of the game. We had our dream homes. We raised kids. Now, let's travel.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Even if you didn't have your dream home, who cares. Go travel the world. See the world. When I think about my dream home, I think about my family. And I think about everybody coming together in a beautiful, you know, a place where they all want to be and they can all stay. And it's big enough. So I do think family when I think dream home. I don't just think about me. I think about who I can share it with. But I do agree, and that is probably my answer,
Starting point is 00:36:45 is that I would rather travel the world because the memories you make are like they will last forever. Joan sounds like a hallmark card. I'm just saying. I love her. All right. Not like your partner's friends or have their friends not like you. Oh, God, that's awful. Neither.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Come on, Joan. You know I'm going to ask you these tough ones. That's a really hard one. I think I would rather not like them because in general I can kind of put up with people and like, you know. You can tolerate. I can tolerate and I can maybe steer conversations to things that maybe don't offend me about them or whatever. I feel like I can manipulate an environment enough that I could. stand them if my if my significant other really love them and they were his really good friends
Starting point is 00:37:39 but I don't think I could change the way I act for them I don't think I ever would I wouldn't be willing to do that so I would rather not like them and figure it out than them not like me and I agree with you and I'd say when he wants to be with his friends you go ahead babe I'm going to go out with girls right I'll go with my friends yeah I don't I agree with all that I got to say We're all throughout the same page on that one. All right, what about this one, Joan? Go to a concert together or go to a sporting event together? Oh, gosh, that's a hard one.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I love both. Once again, I'm the both girl. I know. These are hard because so I think I'd rather go to a sporting event. I think that there's more time for like social interaction with a person when you're at a sporting event and you can, you know, you're with other people around you. And I don't know, for some reason, a sporting event seems more interactive to me than a concert. You're a viewer at a concert. You can talk still.
Starting point is 00:38:39 You can eat. You can dine. You can walk in and have a drink. You can come back out and watch the game. There's more to do at a sporting event with a partner. And it depends on what kind of concert it is, too. I mean, I'm just going to say the concerts I've been to, I've been at the heavens looking at a screen six miles away. I would have been better staying at home and watching.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Sporting event, you know, you get pretty close to the basketball court or a soccer field. I mean, you know, so I'm with it. And there's a lot of energy in the stadium with you. It's fun. Like, it's just like, yeah, I love going to sporting events. Yeah, me too. Okay. How about this one? Plan a surprise for your partner or be surprised. Oh, I love to plan it. I'm a party painter. I love to do parties on a planning. Yeah, I'd rather, and I'm not particularly good at being surprised. I'm like a deer in headlights if I'm surprised. I've had one surprise party. Well, I had surprise baby shower or bridal shower. And then I had one, I think it was my 50th birthday when they surprised me, and I, like, couldn't speak for, like, five minutes. Not that you're a control freak or anything. I'm laughing. I am laughing because I graduated college many moons after I got married, and my husband told me about my surprise graduation party.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And then he told me about my surprise baby shower another year because he couldn't hold a a secret. And the funny thing is, the funny thing is, everyone thinks that Kathy cannot keep a secret. I'm the best secret keeper ever. My husband, my husband could not keep a secret. And I used to say to him, this is so not fair. Everyone thinks that you could keep a secret and that I give away the secrets. And he used to look at me and laugh at go, I know, isn't it great? So I feel like it's really difficult to surprise me because I miss know it all and I'm very involved. Yeah, you're a snooker. You're a snooper.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And like you, Joan, I like to plan them. But I think I would like to be surprised once. Yeah. I have been and I was like, like I said, I was speechless. So how about you, Kathy? Would you rather plan or surprise or surprise you? Joe, I barely cook. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:40:47 There she goes. She's admitting, Joan, did you write that? Record this. I got it. I got it. She keeps going back from forth on this whole cooking thing. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:55 It depends on the guy. It depends on the guy. She'll bake it if she's in like, no. Have I liked the guy? I'm cooking for him. Okay. She'll go to the store and get the ingredients. I'm a gourmet cook.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Okay. We have another one or two. Okay. Oh, well, this. Okay. So date someone who doesn't like pets or date someone with 10 pets. I mean, that's a no-brainer. Wait, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:41:25 I'm not dating an animal for. Wait a minute. Joan has a dog that she walks once a day. So let's go with that. You're not supposed to say that. I only walk him once a day. Sorry. But he's good that way. She's lazy. So, yeah, if he doesn't love, if he doesn't like pets, I'm okay with it. I'm not getting rid of my dog. But if he doesn't, if he doesn't come over to my house and go make a big deal about my dog, it's perfectly fine. I am not living in a house or going out with somebody who's 10 pets. That's phew. I feel like that person might have maybe a little mental issue.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I can smell it and see the hair everywhere. All right, guys, guys, on that note, we, that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you, Joan, so much for joining us. It's been grand. It's so fun catching up with you. And we have to set a date for our get-together, by the way. As a matter of fact, I'm having, surprise you.
Starting point is 00:42:19 No, I'm having my outback, all redone, the pool, the deck, everything. So we're trying to plan something. So I'll get you the info. Okay, I'm on the, I'll be on the text chain. All right. Well, in the meantime, you guys, be sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour. As we, as you know, we always have new episodes coming out every weekend, week, and you don't want to miss them.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And make sure you submit your questions to us because we do answer them. And you can go to Bachelornation.com slash Golden Hour and hit us up on social media at Bachelor Happy Hour. Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the IHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Until next time, take care. Bye, Joan. Love you guys. Bye. Thanks for having me.
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