Bachelor Happy Hour - Parental Problems | Golden Hour

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re talking all about parenting as we dive into your questions! We kick things off with our question of the day: When do you stop parenting your kids, if ever? Kathy and Susan get into what it’s like to parent adult children and when the tides start to turn. Then, we jump into your questions! From elderly parents who refuse to accept care to in-laws who are way too close for comfort and everything in between, you asked and we’re answering! We also launch into a tough conversation: How do you handle it when your kids take on the role of parents? Plus, we end with a round of Icky or Picky (or ew!). Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Don't we say that a lot? I got it down. All right now, let's get started with our favorite part, the question of the day. All right. When do you stop parenting your kids or do you ever? For example, does parenting ever really end or does it just change over time? What do you think? Well, I really don't have time to do this podcast today because I have to go take care of my adult children.

I don't think you ever stop parenting. I do think it looks a little bit different. I'm more of when my kids come to me as an advisor, giving them my thoughts, I really try so hard not to interject what I think unless I'm asked. You know, don't say anything unless you're asked. What about you? I have definitely changed.

100,000 percent have changed because I'll bite my tongue when I say, you know, you should. And I thought, you're raising your family. You do it your way. Kathy, I got to tell you, I don't agree a lot of times. Oh, sweetie, you and I share the, my two-year-old granddaughter, they're raising her to be a terrorist. That's because she's two. That's all.

I hope to God, you're right. I will say, I have matured as a parent. I do not call my children every night and tell them to brush their teeth. No, God, no, no. Or tell them how to keep their homes. Or clean their rooms. Yes, yes. I mean, I don't know.

I was the kind of parent that I was, I don't want to call myself a helicopter mom, but I, and I bet you were the same. I had certain rules like their rooms had to be clean. They had to do their homework. They had to put their clothes away. And so that was parenting when they were younger. Now, you know, little kids, little problems, big kids, big problems, right? So when my kids come to me now, it's usually a bigger sort of life issue. Does that make sense? Yes, it is. And the only thing I might still give some advice is financial advice. I want to teach them what I missed and how important it is to put money away. And how, you know, like my son and my one son and my daughter-in-law, God forbid, I hate even saying this out loud when they lost their child. It was almost six years ago, but they had a lawsuit that was settled.

And they're living very comfortably. They decided not to move. And they put so much money. in their house, it looks absolutely beautiful. But, and I go, Chris, I'm saying half of that should have been invested. Mom, I have X amount of dollars. I said, no, no, no, no, with what you had. You better put a lot more. They got new cars. And I get it. But I mean, it's really, I think, I think raising kids, like, did you give your kids an allowance? Because when I parented my kids, they got I think they started when they were maybe nine or ten and I gave them their age in money so ten they got ten dollars a week which well but here's the thing if they wanted to go to the movies with their friend like they had to learn to budget and I made them you know back in those days we took them to church every Sunday they had to put money in their money in the collection right that's good cap well and here I sit today helicopter mom no I just wanted them But I will tell you

My kids are not I mean they all work hard But I think money is probably As you and I've talked Money can be the root of all evil Oh wait that's another show A whole show But money is tough

I mean and I think Our kids have a hard time Learning those lessons So parenting like that I don't think of it as parenting I think of it more like Were their friends Were more than their friends

but we're not parenting in the traditional sense of the word, you know, telling them what to do. And they have to learn, right? Advice-wise, when they come to us, yeah. I mean, you'll always do that. But you can't tell them what to do now. You know, they're adults. Yeah. I cannot believe my babies.

Kathy, turned 37 and my daughter next month in 10 days or she's going to be 40 years old. How is that even possible? I don't know. My oldest just turned last week turned 44. or so, you know, cry me a river, Susan. I got, I can't, I mean, I remember being that age, but whatever. You know what I'm afraid of? It's not part of the question of the day, but what the heck?

You know what I'm worried about? Why? Is when we get old, which I'm never getting old, but let's just start there. But you know when the table sort of flip and our kids sort of start parenting us? Like mom, like my kids are already saying, mom, don't get on that ladder. You know, you don't need to break another leg. I mean, that's going to happen one of these days where they're going to see. I think it's already begun.

Christa said a couple things to me. Mom, you should. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not there yet. Well, that's the problem, Susan. And you and I are never going to be there. You and I, we're going to move to some great place and raise hell wherever we are. They're going to go.

I don't care. 88, I'm going to raise hell. I don't care. That's right. It's about living, you know. That's right. You're right. Our parent, and even with my grandchildren, I don't reprimand them as often as I did my own children.

And I think that's a given because we're grandmoms. But I will tell them what's wrong. You don't do that. Well, my grandchildren are perfect. I don't have to tell them. I'll let them slide a whole lot. And I sneak them money, you know. You sneak the money?

Yes. And Stella would give her money. And she goes, look, mommy. What is Stella? She's for? What's you going to do with money? She's poor. Put in a bank account for her, Susan. Put in a bank account. And then my older ones, my teenage was like, Mimi, can I have a 20? Back in my day, it was a dollar, was a lot, 50 cents. I mean, come on. Oh, listen, the tooth fairy now? Yes. I mean, you can buy a car with what the tooth fairy leaves for a molar.

My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Fans taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van,

snatching up your theo in them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs! And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo, to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us.

And the one and only, Jamil, Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. It's in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor.

And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie, and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers? They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist.

I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours, and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths. I'm not going to fake it and force it for me. Would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer. The car accident, you didn't want to see, but,

couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense, tools, instincts, and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents,

to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives, knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. Let's move in to our. advice portion of the day. I'm going to read the first one. Okay. Okay. All right, here we go. This one is from

Brianna. She's 42 from Seattle. Hi, Golden Ladies. I've been a loyal listener since the very beginning, and now I find myself needing some of your wisdom. Well, thanks for listening, Brianna. Okay, I'm struggling with my relationship with my mother-in-law. Oh, here we go. To put it simply, she just doesn't like me. No matter what I do, it feels like she's always searching for something to hold against me. While this tension hasn't damaged my marriage, thankfully my partner and I are solid, it is starting to wear me down. Right now, she's even refusing to speak to my spouse and I can't help but feel responsible. Even though we both know the issues aren't really about me. We've tried to work on this through therapy, but she refuses to

participate, take accountability, or get help for her part in the dynamic. That leaves us feeling stuck. We have a family get together and we're in this for the long haul. But so is she. My husband loves his mom and wants a relationship with her. I'm at a loss for how to handle the situation in a way that preserves my sanity and keeps the peace. How can we move forward when the dynamic feels this toxic and unfixable? Appreciate your help and love you too. Wow. Let me just tell you, I've never met Brianna, but since I lived Brianna's life, let me tell you what's going on. Everything is a problem, and everything is Brianna's problem. The food's cooked wrong.

Their vacations are in the wrong place. They don't spend enough time with their mother-in-law. She stole her mother-in-law's son. I mean, how long do you want me to go on? It literally is, Brianna can do nothing right. That's what the deal is. And there's some sort of edipus complex going on here where you know, the mom just can't let go over sudden. So what's your advice to her, Susan? You know, Kathy,

I couldn't help but think it's you every time. But as you said, it could be anything she does. Maybe she just doesn't care for her. And that brings up what we talked about a few weeks ago. You try only for so long, for your family's sake, for your husband's sake. And then if it were me, I would get to the point, well, oh, well, you know, if you can't respect me, I'm not. Here's the thing. You don't want it to become a wedge between you and your spouse, right, or your partner or whoever. You don't, but here's the thing. If the mom, and it's usually the mom, has a jealousy, you know, you don't know what's going on in her life.

Maybe her marriage isn't great. Maybe she doesn't, maybe she feels like you should move closer to her. You know, you don't know what's going through her head. But what you do know, and the fact is, she doesn't like you. And I knew my mother-in-law, she would vacillate. She would say, oh, no, I really like you, but only when my husband would go to her and say. Well, yes. And when he said, Mom, I'll never forget, Susan, my mother-in-law actually liked me a little bit better off and on than my father-in-law.

but again my father-in-law they just they grew up very different culture they grew up in farm towns I grew up in the city let me ask you a question did you try in the beginning oh my god I did you have no idea how much I did for my mother-in-law really and when my father-in-law

died I did even more but here's what I will say my husband said to his mother and his father one time when I got really upset because I'd had it you know up to here And Daryl said, Mom, Dad, we've been married, whatever it was at the time, we've been married 35 years. Do you think it stood the test of time? Can you get on board? Well, of course, they never could.

So my advice to Brianna is she may or may not get on board, but A, don't let it come between you and your husband. Be polite when you see her. You know, if you're at a birthday party, if your kids, it's your child's birthday. party, for example. Tell her how glad you are to see her, you know, that it's going to make your child's birthday. Only a little bit, Kath, because after a while, you're not going to give a compliment. No, no, no. But if you say, look, we're so glad you're here for Johnny's birthday. Yeah, thank you for coming. Thank you for coming. And all you can do is be polite because being polite never goes out of style. I'm going to go off course just for a second. Did you happen to watch

the hunting wives? No, I don't watch it. You talk about a mother-in-law attached to her son? Like, it was eerie. But that's the point. This is not, Brianna, I hate to say this to you, you are not alone in this. I mean, this is a very common issue. It just is. And I don't, the only advice I can give you is be kind to her. Ultimately, you're right, Susan. I did give up. But it took you have to. But I gave up the last two years of her life. I mean, I just could do it. I'm going to pray for patience for her. I think the therapy, by the way, is a good idea. And even if she refuses to go to therapy, Brianna, you go, go with your partner

for your relationship. Because at the end of the day, your child, your relationship with your spouse or partner is the most important one. Yeah, it's her family now. That's right. That's his family. But it's her family. It's hurtful, though.

It's hurtful. Oh, gosh, I know. And you know what? Thank you, Brianna, for writing into us. And we're really curious if you get a milestone and you succeed. Please tell us that we could tell the world. Yes, let us know. Let us know. And, you know, just keep trying to do those family events as much as you can. And by the way, if none of that works, take a swig of vodka before she comes. Okay, let's move on. This one is from Melissa, and she is 64 years young from Oxner. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I have a question for you. I first noticed this in my 30s and now again in my 60s. What do we do when the roles reverse and we find ourselves parenting our parents?

Oh, my goodness. Okay. I'm in my 60s and my dad is in his 90s. God bless him. Is he single? He's had several falls recently. But he refuses to use a walker and absolutely won't consider moving into it. an independent living facility, even though it would give him community, care, and resources.

I've flown across the country multiple times to visit facilities with him, and they're truly wonderful, but he won't budge. It feels like I'm dealing with a defiant, stubborn toddler, and I'm the one who has to make the adult decisions. I'm constantly worried about him, and I don't know how to convince him that it is time. How do you know, navigate this stage of life with love without losing your sanity. I adore you both and I love the podcast. Melissa, thank you. Oh, God. Can I just, I can give this answer. She's not going to like it, Melissa. But I dealt with this with my stepmom who died a few years ago at 96. I feel your pain, but here's the simple answer, Melissa, unless you have him declared incompetent, which he doesn't

sound like he is. There's nothing you can do, but do what you're doing because he has the right to wither away, fall every day unless he breaks a bone and a doctor says, you cannot go home unless you have 24-hour care, then you're going to get your wish and he'll be in long-term care. But other than that, unfortunately, we as senior citizens have the right to make our own choices. Yes, and I couldn't agree with you more. And unfortunately, and this might sound harsh, but if that's the way he chooses to go out, let it, let it be. Yeah. You know, you cannot control that, but I get what she's saying, how we were parents and now we're parenting our parents.

That's what I said earlier, right? We were talking about the question of the day. It's so hard, Melissa, to watch a vibrant person, your dad, who, you know, carried you around, put you on his shoulders, and now is having trouble standing. I don't mean to sound insensitive. It's awful. We do fall as we get older, yes. And my kids, we had a conversation the other day on their birthday dinner. I said, listen, don't put me away.

There'll be no inheritance left. That costs a lot of money. Just give me a cocktail, make me go to sleep. Mom, mom, we'll go to jail. I was like, no, seriously, I don't, that's not my plan. Some people plan for that. What she's talking about is not an old folks home. It's independently.

living. It's just another place that you can still be you and do what you want. You can still have a car. You know, he's not letting go of his home. So you have to honor it. I don't, I have to be honest, Susan. I've already told my kids there's going to be $1.96 left in my checking account. No, because I'm not going to go in. And my kids are always joking saying, oh, come on, mom you'll be the life of the party you'll be you know be decorating for all the parties you'll be doing the dancing i'm like nope you know what my fears kathy they're all old people in there and i'm no i'm not old they don't think they're old either susan they don't think they're around myself with younger people and keep on moving but that's why you're paying melissa i well let us know melissa but and i know

it's hard it's just one of those things the way you navigate it is you love them you check on them you do what you can do, and then you have to let it go and just, you know, let it play out. And you don't want him to resent her for constantly trying to move him, you know. Keep that relationship healthy with your dad. I know you think it's better and it probably is, but if that's what he chooses, that's what he gets. Yeah. Also, I would say she's flown across the country multiple times. Think of the miles you're stacking up, Melissa.

So you're going to be able to take a vacation. I mean, look for the positive in this issue. Moving right along. Thank you, Melissa. Let us know. That would good luck. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed.

From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house.

So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know I get down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Fans taking over American cities, government hop out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them,

two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandarin all over the place The Turfs And of course the Epstein of it all Well this week we decided to shoot our shot And boy did we pull up from the logo To see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us And the one and only Jamil Hill

Pulled up from this politics podcast To keep it a whole century The American public is used to being entertained We're a consumption society So what Trump figured out is entertain them And they'll never question you Listen to the hood politics with Prop Podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercoms the podcast. for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency. And listen now. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers? They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths.

I'm not going to fake it and force it for me. But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer. The car accident you didn't want to see but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense tools, instincts and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to Intentionally Disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jemail Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.

What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. but we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives

knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America, as we know it, we'll be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Okay, this one is from Chris. Hi, my name is Chris. My wife and I have been married for 10 years. We have three kids, and overall we share a really wonderful marriage. The only ongoing challenge we face is her parents. She's incredibly close to them. which I love, but at times it feels like the boundaries between our marriage and her family aren't very clear. They often stop by unannounced and since my wife gave them keys to our

house, I sometimes come home to find them just hanging out. Once I even came home to my mother-in-law opening my mail. On top of that, when my wife was pregnant, she told her parents before she told me and that really stung. I love how much she values her relationship with them, but I also want to to feel like I'm the number one person in her life. Do you have any advice on how to set healthier boundaries without damaging their closeness? Oh, hell yeah, I do. Oh, God. First of all, you're not going to damage their closeness.

They are close. Yeah. But that's your house. And you kindly and respectfully ask your in-laws, let me know when you're coming. I could be coming down the stairs in a towel or naked for that matter. I can't have you walking in unexpected. I think I would handle it a little bit differently, shocker. I would, I think I would talk to my wife or my case.

First. But I would give the positive first. You know, I love how close you are with your parents. I love having them so close to us. But I am struggling and it doesn't work for me. And I would say to her, if I were you, Chris, I would say it's very hurtful to me that, you know, you tell your parents things before me. We are a marriage.

We have a bond. I love that you're close to their family. But there's some changes that need to be made. And that's called establishing healthy boundaries. So the first boundary would be that. The comp communication, like we always say. Right. But I'm saying the first boundary.

that, Chris, that you're going to have to set because your wife isn't going to do it, is they must call before coming. And that your wife must talk to you before she has them over so that you're not coming home. When you're tired, you just want to put your feet up, and you found the table set for four, and you're in-laws are there. Well, what about him walking in opening his mail? Excuse me. But see, I would say that to the wife, if you can't see, if I were, Chris, if you cannot see that this is wrong. So I would say I'm going to talk to your parents about opening my mail. I'm going to talk to them about these things.

But I want you to work with me because we're a team. In other words, he asked, Chris, you have to have buy-in from your wife. She's obviously blind to it because she's so used to her parents and being that comfortable. Maybe her parents opened her mail. I don't know. But that's a big taboo. That is huge. And you're right. Talk to your wife first. And so she understands where you're coming from and do it with tons of respect. Tell them how much you love them and at their welcome there anytime. However, no, no, you can't say you're welcome anytime. We love seeing you, but please do not come any longer unannounced. And you know what, Kristen, might get their feelings hurt. You know what? I've been standing there and hug them and say, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. Baby, you can come anytime you want.

just let me know first. No, because Susan, it may hear me. That's not what he wants to say because he may not want them there anytime. In other words, play this out with me. I call up and go, hey, Chris, you know, hey, Susie, whatever her name is. We'll be over in five minutes. And then Chris is like, no, I want to sit in my skivies and chugged beers tonight. I don't want your parents here.

But he's given them, they're announcing that they're coming in five minutes and you instantly say it's not a good time. That would be his choice. So the boundaries are you wait for an invitation, you wait for an invitation, you never open my mail, and they're going to be hurt, Chris, but you've got to get by and from your wife because you guys are a team. All these questions today sort of relate, have similar underlying theme, which is whether you're married, partners, whatever, you're together for each other and you have to come first with each other. Chris, you love your wife.

Obviously, you have a great solid marriage. So you do need to get her to understand where you're coming from, what it looks like from your point of view. That's right. And once she gets that, I'm sure it's going to work out. But good luck. Stay patient. Yep. And be kind.

Yes. And Chris, if your in-laws are listening and there's any big checks in the mail, send them to me. We'll split it. All right. Let's move on. It's game time. Game time. Well, Kathy, how about today, though?

All three of them was about parenting or us becoming parents to our parents and in-law issues. And I can't tell you there's probably millions of people in the world that deal with this. It's so sad. I know. And this is why the game we should be playing today is drink or dare because that topic has me. Okay. We're going to play a round of icky or picky, both about parenting and dating. We'll switch off reading the ick and we'll say if we agree or if we think it's just picky.

I'll start us off. But wait, didn't we add another word in there for, ooh, icky, picky or ooh. Okay, his parents and or kids pop in unannounced. I'm telling you, that's ooh to me. I say picky. Pick. What? We just talked about the question before.

You think it's me. That never bothered me. And if they walk in on me doing something they don't approve of, oh, well. Wow. Okay. Well, I thought we were on the same page that he really had to talk to his family. But you're saying you wouldn't care. I mean, unless it got monotonous, I mean, to the point where, you know.

But for me, I am who I am, and if you come in and you're not going to be happy with whatever it is I might be doing or how I'm dressed or whatever, then maybe you'll think twice before you do it again. Oh, Susan, okay, we can't belabor this, but I'm just telling you, if my husband and I are sitting down, I forgot what that feels like, but if we're just sitting down watching a movie with popcorn and my in-laws popped in or my grown children popped in, I would say, uh-huh. Children can't come popping in? I never pop into my children's home. I always call first, always. Fair enough. And I, by the way, by the way, I have key to my children's home and I never, ever walk in unannounced. And by that, I don't say.

My ex-husband still walks in unannounced. Oh, God. All right, we're moving on here. Here's the next one. His adult kids live with him. To me, that all depends. Yeah, on the situation. On the situation.

I can't answer icky-picky or ooh. It might be, I might have a big heart on my sleeve for the child. It just all depends on the situation. They could be going through something. But if it's one that they never moved out, that would definitely be an ick. No, that would be an ooh. Oh, my goodness. Way to hear the next one.

He gives his adult kids an allowance. Do you see my face? Susan. It, ick, ick, egg, egg, old. if you want to give your kids money give them one lump sum and say here you go we're done here yeah and that's just it that's just too okay okay i'm sorry i can't even say this one of the straight oh my god he went with his kids on their honeymoon ew listen you know what while he's on the honeymoon with them you know where i am in the

lawyer's office filing for divorce oh my god All right, a guy who wants to get matching couples tattoos with you. Nick. Oh, no. If, uh, well, it depends if I don't do tattoos. Well, that I don't either. But if I did. But it's a sweet thing, yes.

It's a sweet thing. I don't think it's icky. Yeah, maybe that's just picky. Yeah. Okay. We'll go with that. All right. He's really into, he's really into baby talking using little baby voices.

I don't know what I would do. I probably cracked up in his face. What the hell are you doing? I mean, you know, that's a picky because maybe some women turned on by that. Who knows? I mean, like if he says, look, sweetie pie, I'm worth the Jaguar dealer and I'm going to buy you that perfect new Jaguar. Exactly. I'm going to give a baby talk right back.

Perfect. Let's go. Okay. Some who sends, someone who sends a good morning and a good night text. Every single day. I love it. Love it. I knew Supervisor. I love it. Oh, please. We're moving on. I think it should be that way. Okay. Couples who over. Wait, wait, wait. You didn't say anything. What's your choice there? You don't like it. I think it's picky. I mean, listen, I think anything if it's wrote, if every day I texted you, Susan said, good morning. And every day I texted you said, good night. It's like, you know, it was. You're not my boyfriend, though.

And thankfully, I'm not. I'm just, it doesn't say. I mean, would it bother you? No, no, no. It doesn't say a boyfriend. It says someone who sends a good morning and good nightcare. Well, I just assume it was in a relationship. All right, great.

Guess what? If somebody, you were dating, Kathy, and they sent you a good morning every morning, or a good night or sleep well, that would be. It'd be fine if I were in a serious relationship. But if it's just a guy I'm dating, no. I don't want to hear from you every day. Fair enough. Okay.

Couples who overshare on social media, share fights, lots of PDA, which is public displays of affection, et cetera. What do you think? I wouldn't share a fight on social media. That would turn me off. I think it's ew. I think I just think that we are sharing too much on social media.

Sleeping in separate bedrooms from your partner. Only be as the flu. Or that snoring is just beyond. Like that depends. No. Because as people age, I know a lot of people that have their own rooms now. Older people, but it's a snoring thing. No.

I mean, obviously I have my own bedroom right now, but I could see it if they were sick or on the occasional night if I had to get up really early or something like that. But to maintain a separate bedroom, I like to put my cold feet on their back door. warm up in the winter. That would be, I guess, a picky one. That depends on the individual. I don't know. Yeah. All right. He wants to wear matching outfits with you. Okay, that is just icky. That's just hysterical. I know, Fred, when we're going out dancing, I'll go, darling, what color are you wearing? Because he wants to blend with me. I said, that's cute, but we don't know. Wait, can I just tell you on Paradise, all the couples, that is so funny, you said that,

They, of course, you know, I was slow to the game. Like, they'd come out and, you know, they, Jess would have on a blue dress and, and Spencer would have on like a blue of my shirt. And about the third time it happened when they were in the same color. I went, what do you two have, like, telephones in your room? And they went like, oh, no, we talk about it. We want to make sure we're Mac. We compliment you. I'm looking at Keith and me, you know, I'm in green.

He's in red. He's in copper. I'm in black. I was like, okay, whatever. All right. He wants to have your location. Oh, this is an interesting one, Susan. He wants to have your location and constantly checks it asking about where you are. No, I can't do the where you are thing. You can see my location because I don't have anything to hide, but if you're going to question it, that's a big ick. I would agree with you. That is a huge ick if he's going to question it. He proposes without a ring and instead just a promise. Well, that's happening to me.

That's not a proposal. Oh, yes, it is. It happened to you. That's how Dickie proposed. Kid you not, walking down the beach at sunset in Miami. I mean, in Maui. And he's like, isn't this beautiful? Was your other proposal on the beach in Miami?

No, no. And I go, oh my gosh, it is. And he goes, you know, if I ever got married, this is where I'd want to do it. And I go, yeah, how about that? This would be absolutely beautiful. And I just kept walking. We were quiet. And he goes, well.

I said, well, what? Well, I just, that was a proposal? Do you have a ring? Did you say that? Yes. He goes, no. Well, we could go to the diamond guy and we would get one made. I was like, oh, my God, that's it.

You didn't get down on one knee. I didn't surprise with a box. I can't wait to sit. You should have known that marriage was stupid. No, no ring and not down on one knee. I don't think that's it. You're picky again. Maybe you want to take your shopping for the ring.

Who knows? As long as it keeps his promise. Okay, this one, I'm just going to say, I'm going to answer before I read it. It's beyond ooh. It's kick him to the curb. It's alimony child support and taking 80% of every dime he has. Go ahead. Read it.

He shares all of our bedroom details with his friends being plural. That right there gave you a dick. No, I just told you. It's so beyond for Kathy. Oh, no, I told you, it's kick him to the curb. He'll be living in a tent when I'm done with him. Oh, my God, I love it. All right, well, this was fun, that was fun, that was super fun.

And unfortunately, Susan, the fun has come to an end. But wait, I'm just happy that neither one of us have mother-in-law's. That's true. And you're closer to one than I am. You're closer to getting one than I am. All right, that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. It was so much fun. Thanks so much for joining us today.

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