Bachelor Happy Hour - Pascal Ibgui Part 1 — His Relationship Status and Life in Chicago | Golden Hour

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re sitting down with “The Golden Bachelorette” alum Pascal Igbui! Pascal is here to chat about his dating life, becoming a podcast host, and more. We kick things off by discussing his life in Chicago and his thoughts on Bachelor Nation’s most recent breakups. Then, he reflects on his time on Joan’s season and his dating life now. Is there a special someone in the picture? We’re asking! Plus, Pascal gets real and answers the question Kathy and Susan have been dying to ask: Does he only date younger women? Listen now and make sure to stay tuned for part two dropping tomorrow.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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close the pool. Like it's a whole different. I would miss the seasons if I didn't live here. I really would. Yeah, well, I'm going to, you know what? I'll be sure to be rubbing it in your nose when it's 70 degrees here in February. And it's 12 degrees. And you're digging out the snow.

It's so true. You're right, Kathy. It's seven degrees here and 85 there. I'm coming over. That's right. That being said, we do have a really, really special guest today that I'm so excited to introduce. we have Golden Bachelorette alum. Pascal. Hi, Pascal.

Hi, Susan. Hi, Kachie. How are you? Very nice to see you. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you for inviting me. Great to see you. What's going on? Yeah, what's going on? Pascal. My life is good. I mean, you know, I'm living the dream. Yes, you are.

Wait, I want to know, is it hot where you are, Pascal? I live in Austin, Texas, and Susan's in Philly, and you're in Chicago. What's your weather right now? You know what? The weather has been very hot and it seemed like every weekend it's raining. So we have the whole week is magnificent, 90, 100 degrees, hot and humid. And on the weekend, we get that, that downpour. Yeah, the downpour, which is crazy because everybody wants.

But it overall has been a, I would say, a rainy summer. Yes, I agree. Pascal, we have not seen rain in Austin, probably in, I don't know, months, which is typical. We always have very dry summers. But I'm telling you, everything here is brown. It's hot. And we, I mean, it's just ridiculous. I take it you like the hot weather, Pascal. So do you believe in global warming? Yes, I do. Okay. All right. Okay. It's happening. I know. Because do you remember, like for me, August, where the dog days of summer, now that's July. On the end of August, it gets cool.

night like that wasn't when I grew up it was way different I think it's like over a month of change right yes yes yes yes we're moving more to the fall faster than we did in the past yes yes yeah unless I live in Austin then it's just hot have you been to Chicago yes I love Chicago spring it's still beautiful well I know that's what I'm saying you listen we all pay our dues whether it's heat snow monsoons we all pay it. My ex-husband used to play for the Chicago Cubs, so you know where the state. Yeah, you told me that in the past. And I would think, oh, it's going to be beautiful. It would go from windy, because it's a windy city, to humidity, right, blazing hot and humid. And then you go down

by the lake and there's a nice breeze. It's a fabulous city that you live in. Susan, by the way, Pascal, Susan's thinking about taking up a job with the, you know, the Visitors Bureau of Chicago. Okay, we got to get into our Bachelor Nation news. Pascal, I'm sure you heard that Jess Edwards and Spencer Conley have ended their engagement. Maybe you haven't heard. And they confirm their breakup. Did you know that or is this news to you? This is news to me. It was all over the internet yesterday. And I will say, I spent a month with them on Paradise. I watched them fall in love. I believed in love again. they had the love story. You just have to trust me when I tell you, the love story of all time. She moved from Tennessee,

I think, or California, wherever she was living to Dallas, which is three hours from me. We visited. They moved in together. They bought furniture. Like, what do you think about someone? Because we want to get into your dating life a little bit, too.

What is your thought on that about, I don't know. It's disappointing. I guess you don't know them at all, Pascal, right? No, I don't know them at all. You know what? They were young, that's why. I haven't been really reality kind of guys.

I mean, I've been watching The Bachelor because obviously I was involved in the John's season. So I watched a bit of that. And I watch Mel's season. And obviously I watch you in the Gordon in Paradise, I think. But I'm not really, I haven't watched any of those shows. I don't really keep with the gossip of who's getting married, who's getting divorced. It's not my time. even though you weren't aware of their breakup.

But we, like, I just had to do it with a breakup that I went through. And it was really, really sensitive for me to do it. But how do you feel about it? Like, now that you're in the public eye, if you will, you are dating, correct? Yeah, yeah. And you're in a relationship, if I may. Okay. You know, me not keep it, keep it casual.

We're dating. Okay. So then when you're asked questions about it, And publicly people want to know because they're interested because of you being on Joan's season. Yeah, I mean, I just think, I just think then, you know, I mean, all the people who are making the relationship public seek attention. You know, I mean, I think to me if I was breaking up and if I was dead in someone in a long term relationship, I'll break up. I will try to keep it quiet.

I will try to keep it between us. I think that's two people who has different point of view, decided to go separate way. I wouldn't post that in the internet. I think the people who does that is the people who crave for attention, who needs, who need that social medias and. Well, Susan, I guess you put you in your place.

Well, I had to do a podcast on it and tell my truth because I came out on the podcast saying I was in love and celebrated that. Would you do that, Pascal? No, I would. You would not go public with a relationship. Absolutely not.

I wouldn't either. I agree. I will respect my partner. Yeah. I think that's not. Nobody's business where I'm at with my sex life and my love life. I just think then, you know, again, I think I think we become in a society where everything is social media is between TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and so on and so forth. Everybody seek like attention.

They want to, they want to be part of a community of gossiping. I don't gossiping. I don't gossip. Nobody knows. I mean, I thank you, Susan, is different because you posted. I saw you. Actually, you were dating a French guy, am I right? Yes, I was.

Yeah. And you people are very romantic. We are, we are. Yeah. I love that quality. I didn't know you break up, and I'm sorry to hear that, you know? Yes, but I just want to get back to the reality TV thing, Pascal. I think the difference is, and you, you know, you were on a reality TV show, all of us were.

I think the difference is when people watch reality TV, for example, with Spence and Jess, I lived it in person, but people watching the show, watch them fall in love, they're now invested in their relationship. And whether it's, whether it's correct or not, I think people feel entitled to an explanation, just like with Susan, who went public with her relationship with Fred and then broke. it off with Spencer and Jess, they fell in love on TV. And it was real. And so I think that's the difference. People feel entitled to an explanation. When Gary and Teresa got divorced, people wanted to know why. But I agree with you, if you can keep it private, then that's the best way to travel. And that's how he would prefer. Yeah, but they could. But just, they couldn't. They couldn't. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save.

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I mean, it's not like, you know, I mean, I think I know you're talking about Spencer and that's the one who, that was the show in, I believe, Costa Rica. Jordan in Paradise, Costa Rica, where they had to choose the money versus the girl. Right. That was, that's, and I was on that show, Pascal. I was there for the full. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I remember. I remember. They won the money. My buddy, yeah. Well, he's the money. Yeah. Okay.

So I'm going to be very honest with you. Okay. I think, you know, I'm a straight shooter. I don't go around the bushes. I personally think that if I was in the show and I meet somebody like Stacey or Susan or Kati or whatever. And then I'm offered $150,000 between her or the money. I would have taken the money.

That would have been a great show. I would have taken the money. I think to me, I think there's somebody. I mean, I, you know, I think you, Katie and Suzanne, we are in a level in our age where we have experienced a lot, we're much more mature. We know that love is a rare commodity. It's very hard to find the right partners. Okay, could we be in fatuation? I have been in fatuation many time. Could you be attracted sexually and you want it and you get that. Okay, I understand that. But be in love. It takes years to be in love. It takes time. It's not so.

sometimes. Why are you nodding, Susan? Because I'm learning this. Good. I've been in love so many times, but I don't know if I've ever really been in love. I mean, I think you have been infatuation so many times. Mercer's just love. Love is completely, we have tendency to use the word love to come. Oh, I love my dog. I love my steak. Oh, Pascal, I'm loving you right now. Susan needs to hear all this. You know, I mean, I love, I love my coffee. I love, I love my, you know, I love my bed. You know, I think the world love is so used so commonly than to me, if I said somebody, I care about her, I have feeling for you. I feel connection.

I feel connected. I think to me that meets a lot more than, oh, I love you. I think in the case of Spencer and Jess, you know, I mean, to me, I would have taken the money and I would call Jess later on and say, hey, you know, I'm around. You want to go out. You know what I mean? I think that was the most. I think that was the most ridiculous.

He can understand and both, particularly the other one who was in debt, she owed hundreds of thousand dollars in college, you know, take the goddamn money and long. You wouldn't worry about what the people would think. I don't, you know what? You don't care what people think. In my age, I don't give shit what people think of me. Hey, this is a family podcast, Pascal.

I knew I like you. Okay, I don't give what people think of me. You know, I'm not about, I'm not trying to run a popular. the contest where everybody has to love me. I am who I am. I have my force. I have my, my forte is my weakness. But, you know, to me, I just think, then, you know, I love is, it's special. It doesn't happen all the time, you know, I mean. But I, but Pascal, I'm going to, I, I agree with everything you just said, 100%. Thank you, Kachie. A hundred percent. I really do. Thank you, Kachie. Thank you. So welcome. But here's, but here's what I will say.

you're you're in your 70s Susan's about to hit 70 I'm in my early 70s we've lived a lot of life yes yes young kids they're just beginning they to your point Pascal it's all about love and infatuation and and they're

dreaming of their lives that you know they're dreaming of their futures and where we are we are more pragmatic I mean and like you said We know now, except for Susan, that it takes a while to fall in love. It's not love at first sight. But younger kids, I think, you know, we all have to experience those things to learn and grow and mature.

Would you agree with that? You know, I just think, I just think then regardless what age you are, you know, I mean, I give you an example of my son. When my son went to college, he was dating someone for a couple years, and he was in love with her. He was in love with her. He went to college. He almost fell the first semester because he couldn't live without her. Finally, I brought him home and said, I give you a tweet choice.

One is you go to a community college. The second, I give you $5,000, go get a job out of my life. And third, I'd get you crap together and succeed. And I said, remember one time in about two, three years from now, you won't even remember her name. And my son said to me, he said to me, dad, you have no heart. I said, trust my word. about three months ago I was sitting with my son

talking about his college experience and you remember the girl you were in love with I don't remember her name. You remember he said, which one, dad? Oh, I will tell you, Pascal, but that's my point. My daughter in high school, when she broke up with her Latin lover boyfriend,

she was crying, and I was trying to bite my lip because she goes, Mom, you don't understand. I loved him. We were talking about marriage, and Pascal, I said the same thing. I said, Caitlin.

In five years, you'll barely remember who he is. Trust and believe your mother. And they are, to this day, they are somewhat friends. But you're absolutely right. But that's my point. When they're young, like when your son and my daughter were young, they're so consumed by it. They can't see beyond that emotion. And for them it is love.

It's the first experience of love. You know, when the show started 25 years ago, people were going with good intention. There was no social media. They were really looking to meet a partner. They were willing with the intention to meet somebody. They weren't looking for fame and being an influencer and stuff like that. These days, it changed completely. Most of the people who are going into those reality show is because they have,

how you call it, sometime in mind where they want to be influencer. They want to be into the social media. They want to be recognized. I think, you know, fame is great, but it's not great. you know what I mean I think to me like us Kathy when we went for the first show we I had no idea that social media I and then the last show the girls when we got to appear on that show the first thing they asked us was how did you get to hear and how did you do I said oh my God yeah I agree with you go there with that intention yeah the purity Pascal is right the you're right I mean

the purity of what the show is for us it was about falling in love and trying to find the right person. But I will say that Jess and Spencer, I spent a month with them and they were not looking for fame. They truly did fall in love and my heart breaks them. But I want to move on to about you podcasting. Tell us the difference like you were constantly being interviewed, if you will, about Joan and your experience. And how's it feel being on the other side of it and you asking the questions? You know, I think, I think it's interesting because I am, you know, I think I'm pretty direct and I'm a little bit unfiltered when I ask question. I want to know exactly what it is. I mean, I think I don't know if you have the chance

to watch the podcast with John and I and Jamie when we talk about how she ended up picking up chalk and, you know, and she told me then she had a little pressure she had to pick up someone. When I went with John, she's a wonderful, kind, sweet and an incredible lady, but in her have that chemistry. I didn't have that fire for her. So I decided I decided to give her a chance. I didn't think I was going to go that long. I thought I would be. So when I talked to her during our interview, I said, you know, I left not because I didn't have feeling for you. I left because I know the new feeling for Chuck was much stronger than mine. And my ego took over. I didn't want to feel rejected. You know, no one likes to be felt rejected. So I decided to walk myself away. And I realized that I should

of going to the fantasy suite and I should have talked to you about my feeling why I need to live and 10 would have changed. But, you know, that's how you felt at the moment. I mean, yes, yes. I think it's interesting to interview people. You know, I mean, you've done, you've been doing it for the last couple years now. So you know what it is being under the heart seat and been asking any question about the life, love and the dating and the, you know, I think, you know, I've always, my podcast was based on pre-golden and golden years of dating and life, the challenges of, you know, when you get divorced and you get younger children, you know, how difficult it is to meet somebody in your age, okay? How do you manage your family, your children, your ex-husband,

your ex-wife, your kids? I think it's much more difficult. When we are in the stage where we are right now, Cathy and Susan, is our children are gone. We free. Okay. But my question, Pascal, is you and I, all three of us really, are very direct people. We say what we think. Yeah. We're not afraid to hit the truth. Well, and so that's my question. Is that difficult for you?

Because I will be honest, for me sometimes, I want to call it and say, uh-uh, what you just said is not the truth. Let's get to the truth. But I don't want to be seen as, but I am a straight shooter just like you are. So do you struggle with that at all when you're interviewing people? sometimes you know the truth and what someone's telling you is not the truth. How do you deal with that? Because I will tell you I struggle with that.

I call them on. I just, I don't care. I just call them on. I want the true. I don't want somebody who go around the bushes to tell me. You know, dances around it. You got to tell me the truth. And I will ask you more and more.

Actually, you know, I take it's interesting because you guys been in it for a while and I'm sure you have a chance to read your DM and what people said about your podcasts and, oh, you shouldn't have this question. Pascal is rude. Pascal is too direct. Pascal is chauvinistic. Pascal is a womanizer. You know, I personally don't give a crap of what people think of me.

I just want to have a good, honest conversation. And the time I said, Santa Maria and filter. You know, we talk about age differences. Why are you men like to date a younger woman? What a woman of your age. You know, I mean, again, I think it's much more difficult for a woman in 70 to date. 45 years old, it's much easier for a girl 70s. So, all right, so let's just jump right into that topic.

Thank you for that segue. You know, we had Jordan. We had Jordan on and he's dating someone 23 years younger. I've seen pictures with you. I don't know who you're dating and we don't have to talk specifically, but you tend to date younger women. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save.

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By the time you get this letter, both Petra and I will be dead. Next stop, Wonderland. Patra and Michael were by all accounts healthy, happy, and in love. Why did they do it? And what did it do to the people they left behind? I would have given a million reasons to not leave this world had I known. I keep coming back to, I truly hope that Petra was a thousand percent on board with the plan. Do you think of him as having killed her?

Yes, I do. I hold Michael responsible from my mother's staff. I'm Leon Nafeck. And I'm Alice Gregory. Together we set out to interview everyone who got one of Patriot and Michael's letters, as one married couple trying to understand another. Listen to death of an artist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decoding Women's Health.

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No, I think, I think, you know, it's a different, there is a lot of different kind of man. You got the 70 years old who's got a lot of energy, who's got a lot of fire, I'm very active. I walk out every day, museum, opera, symphony. You don't feel your age. I don't feel my age, okay? I don't either, but I want to know you specifically. And again, I'm not, why, why is it that do you even look at women close to your age? Is it what is the thing for you?

Because I asked Jordan this too. What is the thing for you about younger women? Obviously, they have energy. Okay, I want to rephrase the word younger woman. What do you call Katie a younger woman for a man of seven years old? What do you call a younger woman? So you're what? How old are you?

71. I'm 70. 71, yes. 71. Okay. 10 years younger than you. Once you get into 15 and 20 years, it's, I'm not saying it can't work. I'm saying you have different standards of life.

She's in a different place than you are. So when you're dating women who are in, I don't know what you're. you date, but I'm assuming you date women in their 30s, 40s, 50s? Absolutely not. You see, that's why we have a misunderstanding. Every woman have dated are above the 50s. I never go under 50. Not only that, but second of all, if a woman has a 12 or 13 years old kid, I'm not interested.

I don't want to be the father. I have guys all the time reach out to me in their 30s and 40s, believe it or not. They want a sugar mama. But I'm saying personally, I wouldn't date anyone. younger, more than 10 years younger than I. And guys, I have the same problem that you have, Pascal. Men, my age, have no energy. I walk.

I go to the gym. I kayak. I travel all the time. I am very active. So I think we're saying the same thing. It's just that men, if I'm hearing you correctly. Well, for instance, on a dating site, if you put the number down, they bypass you. Right.

To meet me, you don't know I'm 69. I'm alive. Yeah. I'm kicking out there. I'm younger than most 69-year-olds. But because they're looking at a number, you're not going to bother. Same time with me. I'm 71.

You know, most people think I'm in my early 60s, you know? Yes, exactly. I think I look at myself, my body as a temple. I watch what I eat. I walk out a lot. I don't drink alcohol. Take care yourself. And my mind is always active, so my mind is very young.

So the woman I like to date are in the early 50, mid-50, late-50s. That's a good age for me. Most likely they've been divorced. Most likely their children are out of their house. Most likely they have a career. So they're independent. And then I think most likely we have a time to connect. And I think to me, a woman of 58 years old, going out with the 71 years old, you don't see the difference.

You know what I'm saying? But I agree with you, Pascal. But I'm saying, I'm going to hook you up here right now with Susan. Susan's 69. She's two years younger than you. She's got tons of energy. She's case in point. I dated a 55 year old.

I'm saying, would you date a Susan? No, but what I said? Should I ask you out, darling? You have in the past, did you? And he said no. Let's be clear. So, Baskill, I heard a rule. rumor that you, when you went on the Bachelorette, Golden Bachelorette, you wanted them to put your

age younger. Is that true or false? True. And tell me why that is. I just because I, you know what, to be honest with you, that was stupid of me. I should have never done that. And I did because I felt like I was, I felt like I was the oldest of all those guys and I was looking the youngest of all those guys. So I said to myself, you know, I mean, I think that's that and fair to put a 58 years old like Mark, which I love dearly and a seven years, 69 years old as Pascal, that's not fair. You put in somebody who's much younger than I am. So I say, hey, could you change my age to put me a little bit younger? And you know what? That was, that was very immature of me. I should have never done it because I'm part of who I am at my age. And I don't know. At the moment,

I totally respect who you are and how you speak and you speak the truth. Can I ask you, has that changed and you're more confident now? When you were a young person, way younger, maybe out of college, did you still have the confidence and what you speak of now? Did you have that then? You know what? I was always a very secure, very confident kind of guy. You know, I mean, when I was younger, there was a,

a lot of drug, a lot of alcohol around, and I decided not to do anything because I wanted to be in control. So everywhere I was, I was always in control. I am not afraid to go and talk to someone who's sitting at the bar where I'm at. I'm not afraid of rejection. I'm not afraid who said, well, not give me the cold shoulder. I have always been very secure. I've been, you know, extremely successful with women over the years. And, you know, again, I've been married twice.

You know, one when I was very young and, you know, I was amateur. And, you know, to be quite an excuse you and I said that many times, then, you know, if I know what I know now, I would have said with her because we are very compatible. But, you know, when you start making her money and then money starts flipping up and you said, I could do this. I could do that. I want to do it alone. I think money went into my head and that cost me my marriage. And the second time I got married on the rebound. I was in love.

I was in love with some. I won't stay in love. I was infatuation. I was in a very toxic relationship. But at that time, he thought it was love. Yeah, he was like toxic, but I was a passionate toxic relationship. And then when we end up that, I met another woman and I get married. I got two kids and I realized that this is not what I want.

I will never get remarried. I was just going to ask you, would you ever get remarried? No, no. And to be quite honest with you, I will never live with someone again. I love my space. Oh, we were just and I just did a podcast. We just did a podcast about moving in together. So let me ask you, in your dating life, how do you manage that?

How do you manage, how do you navigate with the women you date, spending time with them? Are you monogamous or do you date a lot of women at once? I mean, I prefer not to talk about that, but. Oh, okay. All right. Well, the only reason I was asking, Pascal, is if you're dating multiple women, then it's not as big an initiative. but if you're dating one woman, then the expectation of spending a lot of time together could become an issue.

You know what? I think I made it very clear when I date someone. From the beginning, after two, three, eight, we talk about there is no marriage. There is no living together. There is no more supporting you. Okay. I need my space and I need a long leash. Okay.

And then if you could live with that, that's great. If you don't, I get it. But I don't want someone with. me seven days a week. I can't. I can't. It's not my personality. I like my free time. I like to go have dinner with my friend. I like to go and take my photography and come home on my computer and not being bothered with anybody. You know, yes. I just think that to me, as long as you're honest with the relationship you have and set it straight from the beginning and that's the choice of the partner to choose to, yes or no. Do I want that? Do you have women that you've said this to walk the

other way because of it or think they could change your mind? I mean, the women at date are mature. They're successful. They get it. They get it. They don't, they have their own shit going on. You know, I mean, they have the own business. So they like to have a good time when you're together.

Yeah, exactly. So when we meet each other, it's always holidays. It's always a great time. Yeah? We go see a play. We go for a great dinner. We go to a magic show. We go to opera.

We go to symphony. You go, you know, exposition. So every time we go out, we have a great time. But, you know, obviously they sleep over that night. But then the next day, they're gone and I don't see them for a couple days. So I want to know where you meet women because I know that you, your salons and all that. How do you meet women, Chicago? Dating naps, just in the wild.

How do you meet women? I don't believe in Dedy Lab. I don't believe in Dedy Lab because of AI and the way the women are represented, as well as men. represent themselves, they are not really there. I mean, I've been on the past. I'm not said I didn't. I was in the past under dating abs. And I met someone who I found attractive. And when we had a date and I'm looking at her and I look at the picture. I say, you're killing me. It's not you. It's not you. I said what the hell is that. And that goes both ways, Pascal. I hear that. Yeah. I didn't say, I didn't say it one way. I said it both ways.

You mean, you know, you see somebody on social media is very attractive and beautiful and what put together her fashionable and you meet her in person and she's not the same person and I said you get you wasting my fucking time you know I went to meet somebody one time and I went I took a like oh I said how old was the picture that you put up 25 years I said really did you think I wasn't going to notice yeah I walked by a guy once Susan I walked by a guy his Pascal his picture was so old the guy had lost tons of hair and gained lots of weight. I mean, he looked nothing like his pictures. It was crazy.

Okay, everyone, that's all for part one with Pascal. Stay tuned for part two. Dropping tomorrow. Bye. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman. Angel Geratana. Jeremy Colhane. Patrick McDonald.

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