Bachelor Happy Hour - Pascal Sets the Record Straight | Golden Hour

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are sitting down with Pascal from “The Golden Bachelorette”! The three discuss life advice, dating updates, and so much more. We kick off the episode by catching up with Pascal and what he has been up to. Then, we get into his dating life and Pascal makes it very clear who his type is! And, of course, we put Pascal in the hot seat, asking him all the questions Bachelor Nation is dying to know! Tune in now to hear all of this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We cannot wait to chat and get his advice. Make sure you guys are submitting all your questions to us. You know what to do. Just go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and submit them away. Make sure you write us. Tell us what's on your mind because we're going to be happy to give you our thoughts. That's right. Send us everything, your questions, your updates. You can DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. Okay, Susan, I have a special treat for you today. Oh. Ready? We just got back from St. Martin a bit ago and you're going to have a chance to practice

your French. Practice. I need to learn my French. Because today, our guest, is Pascal from Joan Seeson. Welcome, Pascal. How are you? Very well. Thank you. Very happy to be with you guys. Suzanne, we're going to do that. This one's going to be only in French. Okay. Great. Wait, I have a translator right here on my phone. How are you? It's so nice to meet. Yeah, how have you been? Tell us what you've been up to. Ben's been good Been doing a little bit of traveling

You know I'm a skier So I spend a lot of time In the mountain over the winter Business doing very well Life is I can't complain You know

I mean I'm living the dream You know Where did you go skiing? Where did you go skiing? I just came back from Vell Vel Colorado yeah I think I would do very well

At the Bar downstairs Sipping on some grandma and yeah and looking really good while you guys ski and I'll wait for you to come in afterwards yeah so get a massage and and and then a hot tab you know that we go out after yeah after ski after ski I love to ski and I my trip was supposed to be this year to dare valley and it got canceled I'm devastated love your valley I have skiing all over the country I'm a I'm a big skier so I've skim deer valley I ski Utah ski uh ski uh

Jackson Hall, why you mean, you know, everywhere, all over the country. How good a skier are you? Watch my Instagram and you'll see how good I am. Do you do the moguls? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's just crazy. What, where's the fun and boom, boom, boom? It's just the, it's the control of the body and the balance.

You know, you're going to go through it and just glide through it. I think it's a, it's a high. You've got to experience, if you're good at it, it's, it's an incredible. Even going down in, you know, I mean, I just posted sometime in my Eastern ground went about 50, 50 miles an hour down the hills, which is, you know, I mean, it's a feeling you can explain if you're not a skier. So I have a question. Did you ever jump out of an airplane? Yes, yes. As in my years, I've done that, helicopter ski, back mountains, I've done, yes, yes.

So that's on my bucket list, and I plan to do that this year. Okay. Yeah, I'm scared, but I'm going to do it. Susan is almost over. You know, I think the best time to do it, Susan, is to do it in the spring when we have, what they call a corn snow, which is a little icy on top of a soft snow. So it's much easy. No, no, no, no.

No, I don't mean jumping out of an airplane and skiing. I meant just jumping out of an airplane. Susan doesn't ski. Oh, skydiving, you're talking about. Skydye. I've done that. I've done that as well, yeah. Is it fun?

It's fun. Yeah. I mean, there is the rush that, that 30, 35-second rush when you fell off and you feel like you really drive by the gravity. And then after that, you just, you know. Okay, Pascal, wait a second. You ski, you jump out of airplanes, you do back terrain, you travel. What's still on your bucket list to do? Oh, you know, I mean, I've done a lot in my lifetime.

I've covered almost 80 countries. I still want to go to Peru, to Montepichie. That's one of my... I've climbed. I did the trek in Machupecichu. I did it. It was incredible. I've done a lot of Asia.

I've done Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, India. Well, your 70th birthday is coming. So what are you going to do for your 70th birthday? You know what? I'm going to stay home and I'm going to let that day go by. Close your eyes. Close your eyes. I'm going to stay home and just forget about that day.

and move out to the next day. What have you been up to? What have you been up to since Jones' season? What I've been up to? I've done a lot of... I'm involved in a lot of charities, so I'm putting more effort into it. I still have a business around,

which from the... You know, I have a very good manager, Lisa, and social media directors who's taking care of that part of the business. So I make an appearance, I'm there. I'm just making sure that the operations running properly, I go to a lot of events, you know. I mean, I'm always, I have a very busy social life. I am

always out. As you know, I don't cook, I don't clean and I do laundry. And actually, I want to get back to that because some people, and I don't follow anything in social media. I'm not really there and responding. I don't look social media. I post few times of what I do, but I have someone in my office who is in charge of my social media. And there is a mixed emotion about mixed feeling about the person that I am. Okay. They think I'm a prima donna. They think I'm this. They think I'm that. You know, and I just think then without knowing the person, how could you judge the person? Okay? That's right. Number one. Number two, I believe then time is money. And with money, you could buy the time. So it is better for me to be in my salon, behind my chair,

making the kind of money I make and have a wonderful housekeeper who come up and take care of my home. And do the little things, yes. And then being, I thank you, Suzanne, I believe you were in the beauty industry, am I right? Yes, because I wrote you and you never responded to me. Maybe that's because you don't answer your own social media. Yeah, don't take it personally, Susan, because I really don't answer anything because I have hundreds and hundreds of text messages. and I'm really not very good at that stuff. It's okay.

I didn't take it personally. However, what I shared with you was I felt you, especially the one episode on your show, when you bear bones, if you will, you told where you came from, what your life was like and what you do. And I definitely identified because I was behind the chair for 40 years as well. And it's a fabulous business.

People don't understand who we are. Yes, it is, and I think because of us being in the service business and catering to people all day long, okay, please them and make them feel good about themselves. So when I'm done working, I don't feel like going groceries and start making my meals, you know, I want to be taking care of because I take care of people all day long. So I'm going to step the record straight with all our fun. I am not a prima donna, okay. I'm a prima don't. I mean, he skis all over the world, he helis skis, he's been to every country in the world. But he's not a prima donna.

He enjoys his life. You enjoy your life. I work hard and I play hard. So I want to know, Pascal, you, your son, very handsome young man. How many children do you have? I have three children. I have been married twice. I have a daughter of a 30, three years of.

named Natalie. She's the one actually who signed me up for the golden bachelor. Yes, yeah. Beautiful. And I think you saw her when we did the homecoming. She was talking to John. So that's my older daughter, Natalie. I have a son, Maxim, which I raised. I was a single parent

for about since he was eight years old, so at least 22 years old. So I was raising by myself because he wanted to live with me. And I took the responsibility. I've been a single father. So that was a very challenging time of my life, having him and running my business because at the time

I had five locations and 175 employees. So imagine how shunky was. So I raised my son Maxim which is going to graduate actually in May 10 from Bloomington, Indiana, Kitties School of Business, which I'm very proud of him.

And that's for my second marriage. And I have a daughter for my second marriage named Sarah who actually am very proud of it. She made the Dean's List at the Loyola University which wants to be a nurse, which... Which loyola? Which one?

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So the rumor is, Pascal, this is your opportunity to set the rumor mill straight. We have heard through the grapevine and through social media that you tend to like much younger women. True or false? Absolutely wrong. I think I made a comment. You know, sometimes the language barrier makes me said, And when I look at back, I said, what did I said? When I went to interview and I said, I don't go out with a 72 years old woman.

That's not what I want to meet. That's not what I'm trying to say. I said, I want to go out with an age appropriate. I don't go out with anyone under 50, 55. Okay, so I want to set the record straight. I don't go out with a young kid. And actually, if you look at my social media and the message I got as from all those young girls, we think I'm fabulous and wonderful.

I will not go out with anyone who is under that age. So 50 or 55 is your minimum. 55, 60, 65, depend, depend, depend on the person, right. Exactly. You know, you could have a 65 years old woman who know how to take care of herself who's into health and fitness, who know how to dress to put yourself. I have no problem with the age, but it has to be age-appropriate, you know. And so again, the racco street, I do not go out with young women.

No 20-year-olds. Do not DM him. You can thank me later for that. Susan, I know then you have an interview, Michael, which I've had a very good friend of mine. And Michael came up and so Pascal came up and he put, he come up with his Astin Martin. And you ask him, did he come up with his 20 years old Wong? Okay. I want to set the record straight with you, Susan.

No, wasn't me? I didn't talk to Michael. I do not go out with young women. Okay, so let's set the record straight and down, okay? And you know what? If you did, I wouldn't care because I go out with younger men. Yeah, but I mean, it's not, you know, I mean, I just think 55 is still a younger woman. Okay.

So I think to me it's not the age, is the energy, the bites, the what she has to offer. A woman has 65 years old who have more energy than me. I'm 70 and I got more energy than a 45 years old woman. You know what I mean? So Kathy talks, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't judge you. Never would.

I don't care. To me, it's about the person. I don't care how old you are. However, I'd like somebody on the same level as I am. Yes, yes. Energy, energy interests, like you said, Pascal, someone who takes care of themselves. It's all, you know, that's what's important.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, I try to live a healthy lifestyle. I don't drink alcohol. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I try to eat healthy. I go to the gym five days a week because that's sometimes who makes me feel good about myself. You know, I think I think you, if you take care of yourself, it's all about.

And, you know, that's what is important to me. So what would you think is a fun date? Like if you were to take a woman out and you wanted to impress her and make her have a fabulous time, what kind of a date would that be? Me, I'm extravagance that date. I was just going to tell you an interesting story. I met somebody who was supposedly coming in town, and I told you earlier, I'm not single because there is nobody wants me.

I'm single because the one I want don't want me, okay? So I met a few months ago somebody who I met online, she thought I was great, whatever, and then we start FaceTime in each other and talking to each other for a while. I say, hey, why don't I fly you to Chicago, and let me show you a town. So the date was, we're going to go see a concert, okay? We're going to take an helicopter ride on top of Chicago to shoulder the city from the sky. I was going to take to the VIP opening of the James Bond exhibition in the Science and Museum.

That's a good date. Wait, I have to interrupt, Pascal. Susan, why were me invited on this date? We'll date you, okay? You can take us up. I've said, if I have, if I, if I was a woman, I would like to date me. Yes, yes. I think I leave, you know, I am very fortunate and blessed to have the lifestyle than I have

where money is not an issue and I could do anything I want, you know. Okay, wait, I have to interrupt, I have to interrupt Pascal. Tell me about, you know, obviously you did not get that accent in, in Chicago. Tell me, where did you, you grew up in Paris outside of, where did you grow up and did you make your money in this country? Like, where did this all come from? Okay, so I'm originally born in Casablanca, Morocco, from a Jewish family who immigrate in the late, the early 60s from Morocco. As you know, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco was a French colony. Yeah. And in the 1960s, early 60s,

the the Moroccan government turned over, the French give it back. And we had two way to go. My parents are a Jew from my father's side, the old one to Israel. And my mother said that she didn't want to go to Israel. So I moved to Paris when I was one years old. Okay, so I was raised in Paris. I was raised in Paris. When we moved to Paris, and I think I said that a little bit in the show,

And we're living in the Paris, you don't know. I mean, you know, when you say, oh, you're from Paris. The Paris, you see, that's not the Paris where I live. You understand? The Paris where I live are the project, are the substandard houses, are the struggling for monies. I come from a family of eight children. My mom and dad were working very hard to feed us all.

We were in food stamp. Life was very, very difficult as a young age. I had an opportunity to move into the state because I was in the beauty business. And, you know, being a Jew at the time, being into the beauty business was labeled at being homosexual, because at the time, there was a lot of homosexual wanted to be studies. And my parents were fighting me. They really put me to hell because that's what I wanted to do. I felt like that was my colleague.

That was my passion. That was my gift. I've always felt very comfortable with. woman. So I went to beauty school and after beauty school I had to go to the army because I've used to see in France. It's one year mandatory. We have to go to the army. I serve my country. And then after the army, I went back into the beauty industry. I graduated from beauty school. We went back to the beauty industry and I was working most likely in a fashion house where, you know, those runway, those Yves-Saron, Christian Jor, Ted Lapidus, Cardin, line doesn't exist.

days, I was working in the backstage, doing the hair for the model and everything. It's a lot of work, isn't it? It's very hard of work. It was a lot of work. It was a lot of work. It was a lot of work dealing with a lot of in and out, and you've got to be quick and fast, the updo, the chignon and stuff like that. And then at time, I was running, I was running as a model. I've done a lot of wrong with model. One time also, I want to say something interesting, okay? When I go somewhere, people come up and say, oh, you're the bachelor, the bachelor, oh my God, you might. much taller than you. I said, what do you mean?

She said, yeah, in TV, you look like you're little guy. And I said to the same, I said, you know what, if you put me next to a six foot five, three hundred pounds. Of course, I'm five, eleven, I'm a hundred and sixty-five pound, okay? I'm not that little. Okay. Wait, Pascal, you know what they said to me when they see me? Oh my goodness, how did you lose so much weight? I said, I didn't lose any weight.

Oh, you look so much heavier on TV. I got great, thanks. Okay, so wait, I want to jump forward. I want to jump. So you came to the United States. I came to the United States, and I didn't speak a world of English. I had probably a couple dollars in my pocket, you know, but I had a lot of dreams. And then from there, I had an opportunity to walk from a salon named Charles.

I figured in downtown, who was very popular, who was looking to have. some studies from France and so I came up here but the problem is I didn't speak a word of English okay I had no obviously I didn't have much education because I went from high school to trade school trade school to the army army to do so I didn't speak a word of English and I had no money so I was working as an assistant sweeping the floor as you know shampo in the hair go buy you lunch clean up your station and what I was doing as an assistant you know you don't make any money and I needed to survive. So I had a job as a bass boy, okay, in a hotel.

So after work, I was taking the boss, go to Macombie place, which I met somebody was at the head of a food and beverage. And so I was cleaning table. I was doing dishes. I was sweeping the floor. I was doing whatever I needed to do to get a little bit extra money. And on the two days I was going to the Y to learn the language. I was just going to say, where did you learn to speak English?

Yeah, to language and watching TV. So I learned my English. That's why my English is a broken. It's good. No, you're good. You just have an accent. So wait a minute. So you clearly have been very successful.

Your kids are successful. What your ex-wife, how long were you married to each of your wives? My first wife, I got married when I was very young. That was what we call fatuation. Yeah. And when we had the fatuation was gone. realized and we didn't have much in common and we get divorced in a very amicable way. And my first wife's from Canada, Calgary.

And we, as today, are very good friends. My second wife, I was in a rebound of a relationship. And, you know, I love her girly. She's a wonderful woman. We have two kids together. And unfortunately, we didn't have the same vision of life. So we were married for about five years. And we have two kids together.

Yeah. Do you want to get married again? I mean, you know, I'm not... I mean, that was not a proposal, Pascoe. That was not a proposal. You know, I just think then, you know, in the age where we have, I think I would like to have a solid partner. Somebody, I would like, I'm looking for my best friend.

I'm looking for somebody. I'm looking for my best friend. Somebody I could talk to, somebody who is there for me, somebody who understands my need and value, who understand my lifestyle, who appreciate somebody, somebody who's got some time on their own. Because I'm a great believer in a marriage or in a relationship, there is your life, what you do with your friend.

There is my life. What I do with my friend in our life, what we do together as a couple. So I want a woman who is extremely secure, who is independent, who has a sense of style, who know how to hold a knife and fork. I mean, my son silly, but to hold and a half of the fork, who has a proper, you know, who has this, you know, I'm in the fashion. She has to chew with her mouth closed, too.

Exactly, exactly, exactly. Chew is about clothes and know how to cut the piece of. Can you imagine sitting across? You might be very surprised, Katty. You might be a surprise, yeah. Can you imagine sitting across the table and the person's chewing with their mouth wide open? I would, I would address it right now. Let me just say.

I could not do it. Pascal. What you're saying is so true for me. When I go on in a date with a man, of course, I expect the door to be opened for me and all those things. But I do. I watch how. Do they know how to use a knife and fork? Do they know what a difference between a salad fork and a dinner fork?

Do they know what side of the bread and butter plate? I mean, I look at those things. And a spoon on top of the plate in the front. Yes. So I have a question to ask you. On the show, you seemed like you bond it with several of the men. Can you tell me about the relationships that you built? You know, it's interesting because, you know, I mean,

when I walk into the mansion, I try to find my peers. You know, there's a lot of different people. You've experienced that. You've got 23 strangers and you try to find out where do you fit in those 23 people. And I'm a little bit, you know, I'm not shy, but I'm very selective about who I want to associate myself with. And so I was looking around the room and obviously, you know, when Mark walking to the bar, everybody said, oh, Mark is here, Mark is here, Mark is here. I didn't know who was Mark. And I said, who is Mark?

I mean, it's like, oh, he's the Kelsey. I haven't watched any of the show. And I have the chance to talk to him. And I definitely Mark abandoned with him because I like his kindness. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. He's got a very soft approach. He's a, how you call it, very gentle.

And I like that about him. Then the other guys, I would say, I think the guy was the most fascinating to me was Maroumet, Greg. Okay. Greg was the highest IQ of all of us. I enjoy the conversation I had with him He was just a debating conversation Which I found very very exciting to be able to

Learn so much from that guy So that was him Then it's funny because I had a small room So I had CK which I love CK CK needed a little bedtime story Before going to bed Which I thought it was very funny And then then obviously

Then I love Dan He's a great guy You had a good room. You had a good room. Yes. So what's happening is I think because of being so close with those four guys, I bonded with them more than the big room with all the rest of the guys. And, you know, that's basically the guys I was hanging with Mark.

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So I hosted, I hosted Michael when he came to Chicago. Michael. I took him for dinner a couple times. He came up over the holidays. He's a nice guy too. I love Michael. Michael is a sweet out of a guy, gentle. I think, you know, Minav, you know, I've listened to his podcast and, you know,

he had a problem with his health, so he wasn't willing to serve you on the show. But he's a super guy. Him and I talk all the time. Every time he come to Chicago, I definitely see him, how you call Mark Camentown. Last week, two weeks ago,

three weeks ago, I took him out for dinner with his friend Barbao. Pascal, we're coming. Susan and I are coming. Are you taking us to dinner? Of course, of course. In the meantime, in the meantime, we're lost for words

Kathy's never at a loss for words I'm lost for words I got I get that effect on women usually they lost their word you know what I mean we leave you speechless I make them I make speechless that's that's the story of my life you know so so Pascal I've got a few more questions here I just kind of say one thing I love to see you laugh I feel as if you're on the serious side

and I love when you crack up that smile is worth a thousand million dollars you just smiled and laughed you know what I've always said you know to all the guys in the mansion I say guys you got to leave the moment you got to enjoy your time don't worry about yesterday

there is nothing you can do and don't worry about tomorrow because it's the unknown so enjoy where you are and have a great time with it So to me, that's been my philosophy over the years. And, you know, I've been to some challenging time in my life. I didn't claim the letter straight up.

He has been a lot of plateaus, a lot of peaks and valleys. And, you know, you've got to believe in yourself and move on forward. Very good. Very good. Pascal, we have asked you so many questions. It sounds like you had a great time on the show. Joan wasn't your girl. But we still want to get to know you better.

So we're going to go back a little bit. Who was your favorite band or musician when you were a teenager? Which was like 10 years ago. I would say, you know what, to be honest with you in France, when I was a kid, Elvis Presley had a huge influence on us. Okay. And then we have the French version of Elvis Presley was Johnny Alliday, which is the Elvis Presley of France. So basically what Elvis was singing in English, Johnny was singing. in French. So those were my, definitely

Elvis Prasley was my account. And have you seen the Beatles? I was a little bit young for the Beatles, but, you know, the Let It Be and, you know, those songs have a classic. Yes. I love Elvis as well. Okay. What's the favorite memory that you have when you first came to the United States? What stands out? What stands out? It's very first. funny, I felt

scared. I felt lost. I felt like where am I am I? I'm looking at those building and I see them so tall. I say, wow, this is America. You know, in France we don't have those high highways like you have in here. And then

the first day I arrived here, I went to the loop. I don't know if you know Chicago Loop and you get that L track. And I honestly, I got scared. I got scared about I was over realms, but the magnitude of the street, the magnitude of the cars, everything was big. And I said, wow, how am I going to fit in here?

And I got, that's the memory I will never forget. Then this is the most incredible part of looking at from the fresh eyes, Chicago and the size of it. Have you lived in any other cities, Pascal, besides Chicago? I mean, I've been through all over the country. I mean, I've been to New York, Calais, Florida, Miami, you know, but I think Chicago is still the best city in the state for me. So my ex-husband used to play for the Chicago Cubs, so I lived on the 42nd floor in the high-rise right on Lakeshore Drive, and it is absolutely a stunning of a city. I just loved it there. Did not like the winter.

The winter is very cold. You know, you know, you know what I love about Chicago versus Alley and Versa? versus Miami is we have what we call the four seasons, spring, summer, for winter. And I'm a very big in fashion. I love to dress. So to me, in the winter, I got my coat and my blazer and my letters. And in the spring, I got my light coat and my light sweater. Get to change it up.

Yeah. Exactly. I love. I love it. So to me Chicago gave me really a sense of passion versus California. Okay. Okay. I have a question.

This leads right into it. What would the name of your autobiography be, Pascal? I've got it. I know what the name should be, but you tell me. What do you think should be? I would, your book, if I were right it, it would be my sense of, my sense is fashion. No, I will say more, there is so much to learn. There is so much to learn.

That's a good one. I like it. much to learn. Yes. I think, I think, you know, regardless how old you are, there is different experience in different stage of your life. You're right. And we still have so much to learn. Then we always got to keep up learning to grow as a person. I think to me, that's very important. Mine was enjoy who you are. Yes, a good one. Yes. Good one. Mine was run between the drops. You got to run really fast, Katsi. You got to run.

Okay. How about in America, your favorite food? In America, my favorite food, you know, to be quite in a Swiss, you have a foodie. So I don't eat fast food. I don't eat burgers. I don't eat pizza. No pizza? You live in Chicago and you don't eat a pizza?

Yeah, that's not my time. Give me a nice piece of salmon, sea bass, tuna, groupers. you know, I mean more a fish than I am meat and I don't eat fast food, no, I don't, I don't I don't go to Chipotle or pat bellies or all those This is not my belly. I don't know what that is. Do you eat barbecue?

Pascal, do you eat barbecue? I mean, I've been invited to a lot of barbecue, yes, but I don't. Yeah, I do. If it's some time I like, I would eat the barbecue chicken, but I wouldn't eat ribs or, you know. So I live in Texas where barbecue means

and steak. Pork. Barbecue means pork, ribs, turkey, you know, it's a thing in Texas. And a cowboy steak.

Yeah, yeah. I like a steak. Okay, one more question. If you were stuck on a deserted island and you could only bring

three guys. No, wait, stop, Susan. He can only bring three people. He's bringing three people. He's bringing

in you and me. You get one more, Pascal. Okay, so let me tell you, if I was going in a Dersed Island with the two of you, I'd be honest with you, I wouldn't bring anybody because I want you dedicated attention. So I will be alone. I'll have your attention. I'll entertain you and then we'll have a great time so I don't have no competitions. We would survive, yes. We would survive. Wait, before he answers that question, I have one, I had a question for him. You know, well, I don't know if you know or not, but I used to have much longer hair, and Susan cut my hair. As a hair sounds, is my hair cut good or bad?

You know what? I think it looks good, but again, I see you in a minuscule way, so I can't really, but I trust Susan, been 40 years in the business, I guarantee you then you have a good haircut. Okay, I like it. You got to show them a before and after. That's what you need to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

She wait, Pascal, she had it here. It was flipping up. She had all this light in there. I said, mm-mm. yeah no this looks good this looks good yeah okay three men from the shelf you had the only pick

three men from the show okay I will definitely bring a Greg with me because I like that conversation that stimulate back and forth and agree to disagree and come up to a compromise I think he's a

is a man who will definitely entertain me and then and then he does my laundry so I can't Wait, did he really do your laundry? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's one. The second man I will take is definitely Mark, okay, because I think Mark is, Mark calm me. He brings me down a bit.

He's very soothing. I love talking to him because he's a man of soft world, which I am. And by the way, he's dating a beautiful woman. He just entertained them. I know I entertained them to Chicago. I invited him to, we went to a fantastic restaurant, and I took him to the House of Blue, not to the House of Blues, to sow a house for a drink.

We had a great time. She is absolutely fantastic. I am so happy for him. The third guy, oh, my God, my God, the third guy I would take, I would say, K. K. K. K. K. I take K. I take him on a desert island. I take CK because CK and I will create a new fashion or wardrobe in the island because I think he's a very sharp dresser.

He is. And then he always liked the way I dress. So I think the two of us could create a new island's fashion. Which one would make you laugh? all of them I think Greg he's the funniest guy of all he's got a wicked sense of humor okay

we haven't gotten to meet him yet and I love and I love his sense of humor because as you know there is three type of comedian the one who make you laugh the one who laugh with you and the one who laugh at you

okay yes Greg is the kind of guy who make you laugh and laugh with you so I love that I love his sense of humor yes well Pascal

I'm going to say you have made us laugh today. Unfortunately, we're out of time here, and that's going to do it. I don't know why. They tell me it's time to wrap. But it is time to end this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. We thank you. You are a lovely, interesting, fascinating man, full of fashion, full of great ideas. And we just really enjoyed having you on the show.

I'm coming to Chicago for a haircut and dinner. Yeah, it's a pleasure. It's a pleasure to. finally talked to both of you a congratulation on the success of you podcast.

I'm honored to have been part of it and hope we, this is not the air, hope we see a shadow again.

And definitely, definitely, if you come to Chicago, please reach out. Well, if I reach out through your

Instagram, I'm not going to get replied. You know what? You reach out my email, reach out to my email.

It will be better. My Instagram, I don't answer anybody on Instagram. Oh, my goodness. All right. Susan,

then the long and short of it is we'll have his people call our people okay exactly i'll email i'll email okay okay all right thank you very much make sure to submit your questions to us we loved having you all today all you have to do is go to bachelornation dot com slash golden hour or DM us on instagram at bachelor happy hour thank you so much all of you for joining us and thank you pascal we've really enjoyed getting to know you because we didn't get the spend that much time with you. You know, we love, we love hearing your story where you came from and how you got to where you are.

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