Bachelor Happy Hour - Rachel & Becca Answer Your Questions

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

They've asked for questions and comments every week, and now Becca and Rachel are answering fan questions. Where do they think they would be now if they hadn’t gone on "The Bachelor" and become the Bachelorette? Who would be their dream guests?Plus, Becca and Rachel play a hilarious game of Never Have I Ever.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We hope you guys are doing well. We hope you guys enjoyed the long weekend. You got an extra day in there. Celebrate the holiday. Some may have. Some may not have. I understand if you don't. But we know that, you know, this, just everything that we've been going through all of 2020.

Not last month, not a couple months ago, just from the beginning of this year, it's just been a lot. And we know that it's been really hard to celebrate things just with everything that's going on in life personally, even if it's not affecting you. It's affecting you just watching it, just reading it. So I hope that you've got some time to just relax, breathe, self-care, self-love, just in light of everything that's going on. And I feel like our podcast have been a little bit heavy too, but very relevant. So I appreciate it. And I'm glad that we have the space to do that. Glad that we had Claire on where we could just, you know, get to know her more.

Everybody gets to know her more because I feel like there's so much depth to her. And even in two episodes, we still didn't get all of it out of her. So in light of everything that's going on, we figured, you know what? Let's have a little fun today. Let's do something that we haven't done before, but that we all. always talk about at the end of every single episode. You guys, we always ask for you to write into us and, you know, just comment, DM us, ask us questions, and you guys have been doing that. And you know what? We haven't been holding our end of the bargain until today. So we're

going to answer your questions. We're going to dive into some of it. Becca and I are so excited to do this. We're kind of going to go through these questions for the first time. We haven't prepped our answers or anything. Just to let you guys know, it is impossible to get to every single one of you guys. But just know, we see you, we love you, we appreciate you for listening into every episode with us. And so we want to honor you guys today. So that's what we're going to do. Yeah, Rach, I can't wait. I feel like we've talked about doing this. This is something that we've both probably wanted to do for quite some time. And we kind of did it on the lives a few weeks, go, you know, when quarantine started and we did our lives. We did get around to some questions,

but there's obviously so many more that are just, like, flooding in not only our inboxes, but The Bachelor Happy Hour Instagram's inbox. And so this is our chance, and especially because we're all watching the recaps of The Bachelor's Greatest Seasons ever. And especially after talking to Claire, I feel like it's stirring up some nostalgia for us because she's about to embark on her journey. And we, you know, talking with her, we can kind of, pull ourselves back and put ourselves in her shoes and remember what that feels like. And there's so many fun memories and moments that, like, until you talk about it and answer it, you don't even remember that something happened.

And so it's going to be a fun little walk-down memory lane for us. And so I don't know about you, but I'm ready to clean out my inbox with some of these DMs to get around to these questions. But that doesn't mean don't still send them in. So please still do this. And hopefully we'll be able to do this like, you know, every couple of weeks or so. just because it's fun and rachel i'm excited to hear from you too because of course there's probably some similarities that we both went through on our seasons but a ton of differences too

because we had a thousand different men and experiences and destinations and dates and so let's just get into it and go through our experiences all right so like we guys said we have so many questions to get to. And we're going to try to get to as many of them as possible. But we're also not trying to keep you guys here all day. So, you know. Or are we? We might be. But maybe so. Maybe so. Maybe so. Okay. So let's just start with the first one. All right. So first question says, we love you guys so much. How the hell are you guys doing? I think this is a perfect way to start off because it's just that let's just check in, you know? And so there's so much going on. We're just in the middle of unprecedented times. If I'm honest, I have highs and lows. Some days I wake up and I feel

hopeful and just ready to tackle the day. And then other days, I'm just, I take 15 steps back. You know, for example, the other day, I was podcasting and we were just talking about different issues that are going on in our country. And we had to talk about another story, another tragedy, another murder. Specifically, we were talking about Elijah McLean, and we're just not talking about it, but it's something that happened last year, which is part of the bigger problem, which you can understand why people are still marching in the streets and they're so angry. So I'm trying not to get on the soapbox, but the point is that having to talk about that, having to listen to the audio of another person dying and begging for their life just really took me back. And my co-host said

something really good about, you know, don't feel guilty if you can't give, I'm paraphrasing what he said, but he basically was like, don't feel guilty if you can't give your all to it. If you can't watch that video, if you can't listen to that audio, that doesn't mean that you've given up on the fight for justice. It just means that you have to check yourself mentally. So if anybody else may be going through that out there where it's just hard to watch another video, it's hard to listen to the audio, it's hard to read about another murder, you know, it's okay for your own sanity and your mental health to take a step back or to talk to somebody or to admit that you're just not okay because that was me the other day. So all that to say,

you know, I try not to stay in that place and I try to be hopeful and to try to make a difference in the best way that I know how. So yeah, that's how I'm doing. Good days, bad days. What about you? And that's life. I feel like we still. started off with like the most loaded question that we could have like how are we doing um yeah i mean 2020 uh for me personally and i think for a lot of people in not only our country but our world it's testing us and there's so many different factors like i think i mentioned this on our podcast two weeks ago uh when we were talking with katelyn but like COVID is still a thing and because everything else that's taking place um like is at the forefront sometimes

I forget like, oh my God, we were living through a quarantine and this shutdown and people are dying. Like, there's so much going on in this year. And I started 2020 like on this high because I had The Bachelor Live on stage tour. I had the podcast. It was like, it was easy sailing. And now I look back like just to a couple months ago. And I feel like I was at a totally different place in my life. Like completely different mindset. And so, yeah, it's definitely. with everything happening, I feel like I'm being tested. I'm learning a lot more about myself and my friends and my family and just having new conversations that I've never had before in my life. And so, yeah, good days, bad days. Thank God for Minow because she keeps me saying. It's like,

the dogs do so much. I know. She's like, she is like my therapy pet. But yeah, I feel like, I started 2020 and I was trying to find this the other day. I had a list of like resolutions that I wanted to do for the year. And my number one thing was work on my patience, which has definitely happened this year because of everything. And I just want to add to that not only to be patient, but to keep expanding in what I don't know and my knowledge base and to be okay with having the bad days and the down days. I feel like, especially in the world that we live in, Rach, you know, we're always on social

media and doing interviews and we're out there. And it's, you want to try to put on a brave face, but I think I'm learning that that's not the case. This is not the year to do that and to pretend everything's perfect. And so just going through the motions. I mean, you know, thank God I have a great support group and friends and family. But I'm learning a lot. 2020 is, it's been a lot. you know, I look at it as, I mean, like, I would never want to not do 2020 for as many crazy things that have happened. So that's kind of where I am. I think that, first of all, I'm shocked that you're not a patient person. I would have never thought that about you. You seem so patient. You do. Ask my mom. She will say the exact opposite. I'm trying. I'm working on it.

You come across the great facade you're putting out. I would have said you seem so patient. I'm actually probably more patient than people think that I am. But it's something I had to work on myself. But something that you said that I think is a good way to end this question is 2020. First of all, let me say, I've always said, odd years are my years. And I try to project that on other people as well. And this is an even year. So my point is being taken.

I mean, all my milestones in my life have happened in odd years. Like, go back and think about that for yourself, maybe. I don't know. You were the Bachelorette in 2018, so maybe even years are your thing. But it's always been odd. It's always been odd years for me. And something you said, though, that I want to emphasize is that there has been a lot of learning this year.

And that is when I get hopeful, you know, when I have a good day because, yeah, I may be frustrated about some things, but we have captivated people's attention in a way that we never have been able to before, and I'm grateful that people are learning, and I'm grateful that people are recognizing things about themselves and society, the society we live in, in a way that they haven't ever, and that makes me hopeful for the next generation. So that's what I try to channel, you know, when I'm having a bad day. What do you do? I want to know, like for you personally, when you're having one of those bad down days, is there something that you do or that you someone you gravitate towards how do you handle those days yeah i mean i'm fortunate that i have

outlets then my podcast is a really good the other one a good outlet and because we talk about these issues and we just vent and so that really helps me channel it um i talk to family friends that i can brian's obviously poor brian i'm like killing him with rants and fencing and he's so patient and thank goodness he just gets it so that really helps too but also journaling meditating praying working out i mean all things to just release even if it's in the shower and just crying screaming singing all those things just to release whatever it is that i'm feeling i do and reading too i i've never really been a big fiction reader and in quarantine i've been reading fiction because it just allows me to escape my reality. I like that. See, I'm the opposite

where I used to always read fiction because I wanted to get out of my head and put myself in some other storyline. But lately, I've switched and I've been trying to read more nonfiction. Just like my sister and mom have just like a stack of books that I'm back in Minnesota right now, my mom's place that I'm going to try to get through. But one thing, one thing I do is I really like true crime, so I still listen to my true crime podcast and just like take a walk. If I just need to like zone out and get away from everything, that's what I do right now. Maybe I tried a true crime podcast at one point. I couldn't do it. I listen to the news. My podcast are the news. I love like a good journalism story. Yeah.

Such a nerd in that way. All right. So next questions. I feel like we answered so many questions in just that one. I know. But here's a question that we get almost every day. Rachel, and I don't know if this is in terms of, so they're asking who is our dream guest. So either, I'm assuming on our podcast, but just a dream guest to chat with in general. I, do you have one in mind?

Um, well. Oh, go ahead, please. Well, I would. I would say, well, and it goes kind of into when I was the lead and one of the dates that I really wanted was, well, and I've said this beforehand, and B got it with the drag queens on one of her first group dates, but a dream guest of mine would probably be RuPaul. That's a good thing. Because, like, she's done it all. And she, for those who haven't seen RuPaul's drag race, I highly recommend checking it out. But she's kind of like the Chris Harrison role, you know, where she oversees all of the contestants. But I don't know. I just, I would love, I never met her at Drake Con last year.

And I would love to have RuPaul as a guest. I'm going to just aim high. I feel like I don't know if this would ever happen. But that would be my number one, I would say. I almost want to steal yours. I am truly thinking. Who in the world would I want on the podcast? I'm just going to say Michelle Obama.

I was, well, and this, okay, side note to everyone, Rachel shared with me that she's talking to Beyonce's mom after this. So, Rachel, I feel like you've talked to so many people already, and you've already had that amazing opportunity. I have, yes, been fortunate it's talks to people. Michelle Obama is not one of them. I have had the pleasure to meet or talk to. So, yeah, I think I'm going to go with her.

I guess that's a good one so let's make both of these happen let's just put it out there right let's just put it out there make this happen put on all the good juju um i would love that oh my god can you i feel like though if we had either michel obama or ruPaul i would not talk i would clam up you would have to i would just sit back and listen and smile you would have to take the lead i would no i would want to just like pick their brains apart i would be all in um okay What celebrity would you want to see as the bachelor or the bachelorette? You cannot say RuPaul or I can't say Michelle Obama. We cannot name those two. They're out.

Okay, well, this is one that I've said before, and I've said it to his face. I love Michael Strayhan. You know I love Michael Strayhand. And so if Michael, I know he has a girlfriend right now, at least I think he still does. If not, I mean, I'm not sure. I don't know. I would regardless of like where I'm at

my life I would take a two month hiatus in life and go back on the season just to like be around him Michael is great he's what you see is what you get he is the exact same way in person okay my

celebrity that I would love to see on is Rihanna hands down Rihanna she would run through those men she could perform, sing, dance, whatever it may be. She's like, Rihanna just like so doesn't care about stuff. And I just think, I mean, like she just doesn't give zero, try not to curse, give zero Fs.

And so I feel like we would just get a Bachelorette who's telling it like it is, who knows what she wants. The man would be so intimidated. It would raise the bar. I'm going for Rihanna. I don't, I think if we had Rihanna, I don't know if we would even need. 25 to 30 guys. I would just watch her. I would just need to show of her. You know who else would be good? What is her name in real life? Lina Heedy, I think, who plays Circey Lanister only because... That's so random. But playing into that, she would bust those guys' balls. She would put them in

their place. It would be, I think, so entertaining. But then again, like, I would only watch it for the lead and no one else. Right. And assuming she's Searcy in real life, right? You don't know what you. You really just want Searcy. Well, I follow her on Instagram and I love her. She's so outspoken.

She like takes like no bullshit. And so I feel like she is, I mean, not as extreme, obviously, because Searcy was like, she could kill people. But I feel like she still is just a badass boss in real life. Now I'm going to want to, I want to follow her. I want to see. she's about. Mm-hmm.

She's good. I don't think she's everyone's cup of tea, but I enjoy her. Yeah, that sounds like my type of chick. Okay, so this is a question that,

funny that we get this because I always ask myself this question and I always self-check. And the person who wrote this in said, if you had never come on the show, what do you think

you would be doing as a career now? I don't know if you do this, Becca, but I always, I would have to say every week. At some point during the week, I say, okay, it's Tuesday. It's one o'clock. What would I be doing right now if I had never gone on The Bachelor? And I think about that. And I'd be like, I'd be in an office. I would be in a courtroom. I'd be in a deposition. You know, would I be in a relationship? I don't know. Would I be married? I have no idea. But I always self-check, like, you know, one. One decision can change the entire trajectory of your life. For me, that was someone coming in my office saying, trials are down the street in two weeks.

You should go. We should all go. I always do that. I mean, so to answer the question, you know, if I hadn't been the Bachelorette or even gone on the Bachelor, I would still be an attorney. I'd still be practicing. I have no idea what my love life would be. You know, at that time, I was coming out of a failed relationship, still trying to hang

on to the remnants of it, even though I knew it was over. But yeah, my career, I'd still be an attorney, you know? Even after the bachelor, I went back and practiced law. Even after the bachelor's at, I still practiced for a year and a half after. So I would definitely still be practicing. Oh, man, I don't even know. I feel like, I mean, because I was working as a publicist in PR before the show. I felt like where I was, though, at my agency, I had.

reached the end so I was ready for some sort of transition which thank God at the time it was the show um I mean easy answer I would probably still be doing PR maybe for a more fun like lifestyle company or for lifestyle brands um but like would I love it would it be like my dream passionate job probably not I feel like now I mean in a perfect world. I'd be like a homicide detective or like a book editor or something. I don't know. Not that I could ever do it, but just, you know, going back if I could do it all again. I think I would pick maybe a different career path. But yeah, I don't know. Like I don't know because without going on the show and meeting Garrett, I would have never probably moved out to California and thank God I

did because I love it out there. I'd probably still be in Minnesota dealing with the cold, depressing winters. I don't know. Yeah, it's just, it's hard to tell. Like, I don't know. I probably wouldn't have kids yet. I just, yeah, I feel like I still had things like in life that I wanted to do. It's interesting you say that because right before I tried out for The Bachelorette, I was in L.A. for one of my really good friends, she was having a baby. I was there for a baby. I was there for a baby shower. And I remember it had been the first time I had been to L.A. in 10 years. And I remember being there and thinking, how, something just feels different. I feel like I should be here. And my friends that were at the baby shower were like, you should come out here. And I was

seriously thinking about taking the California bar and changing the type of law that I was practicing. Because I focused in sports law in law school. And I always knew I wanted to go back to sports and entertainment, but I was stuck in a place of being complacent, a little too scared to make that jump because I knew I always didn't want to practice law forever in that way. So it's interesting. After hearing you say that, it just brought me back to where I was at the time. You know, I loved what I did, but I was always looking out the window and kind of wondering and imagining for more. So it's crazy that, you know, now we have the opportunity and a little bit more freedom to explore the things that we've always wanted to do.

Just great. Yeah, it's funny because it's like, I look back and I, you know, you get out of college, you find your job, you think your life's going to turn out so different. Like, when I graduated college, I was 22 and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to get married to and I'm going to have kids. I'm probably always going to stay in Minnesota. Fast forward to when I was, when I first went on the show, I was 27, I think. And like, at that point I was like, I'm just going to live my life and have fun and see where the world takes me and maybe move to California. And now, like you said, we have the ability to kind of switch up our lives and our roles or like what we want to do. And so it's like, you know,

maybe I could become a book editor somehow. Like maybe I would go back to school to get a new degree. Who knows? Like, the world is your oyster people. So for any 22 year old girls out there who think your life's going to go one way and you're dead set on like getting married and having kids right away, just give it some time. Give it some time, yes. Have fun. And don't be afraid to step outside of the box. That's what always held me back.

Yeah. Did you, I ask so many people this because I'm curious, when you went to college, should you ever study abroad? No. I never wanted to. Really? I know. It's weird.

And I feel dumb saying that out loud now, but I didn't. I just kind of was like, I knew where I wanted to go. And for my major, I was more focused on finding a really good internship in the sports industry than I was studying abroad just didn't go along with my career path. And I did. That's what I focused on. I worked for the NBA in New York. That was my goal to get within a league and work with them. Damn. Oh, life. Did you study abroad? No. Well, that's the one regret. I wish I would have. I was about.

two, I was going to go to Adelaide, Australia for the semester, and it just was such a mess with the admissions and back and forth for months and months, so I just finally pulled out. But I wish, looking back, that's like the one thing in college I wanted to do that I never did. So I still got to make it to Adelaide one day. Adelaide. How crazy would that have been if that's where you went on your season? Talk about a full circle moment. Yeah. I would have been like, who talked to my mom and who planned this? Well, Becca, yeah.

Okay, next question. Going back to, I mean, present day, someone wrote in who mentioned that they're interested in starting the podcast. And so what are some pointers for being a good host? Rachel, I'm going to let you take this because you are the best host. Not all stop, Becca, please, the pressure. You know, you're only as good as the people you surround yourself with. So, you know, give yourself some credit for sure. Sure. I would say, I think it can be intimidating to start a new podcast. So kudos for you for wanting to do it. Because there's so many podcasts out there and you think how can you stand out and be different. And I think the only way to do that is there's probably everybody has the idea out there. You know, whatever subject matter you're going to talk on, it's already out there. What makes you different is you. And finding your voice and how you're going to relay that.

information to whatever audience it is. So I think finding your voice, finding the subject matter and the topics for your podcast, having segments, I think really differentiates yourself from other podcasts too. And then knowing who your audience is and how you want, and make sure you have the right target audience for your podcast. But one thing, if I'm going to pick it, is your voice. you being you, people are going to come listen to your podcast because of who you are and what you bring to the table. And I would also say a part of that is being well researched in what you're saying, whether it's informing, educating, or, you know, just entertaining. Make sure that you research what it is that you're actually talking about. Because people will call you out

on your BS. Oh, yeah. Take it from someone I'm pointing to myself right now from a couple of weeks ago. I want to add on to that too. Those are some great pointers. One thing, too, that I think I've learned from the past couple months of doing just this podcast in general is like guests really can make a good episode for our listeners. And I mean, thank God, like especially when we recap seasons, thank God we have the lead and contestants or people who have performed or guests who have been. on that make it more fun but even like and even thinking about who we've talked to for like listen to your heart i think they bring such a new perspective like when we had keshah and jason and rita wilson they bring such a different vibe to what just the bachelor happy hour

podcast was and so uh it just adds a good variety so make sure that if you can at times have some awesome guests and uh also to like yes this is our podcast and we're host, but people don't always want to hear from us. They want to hear from the guests. So make sure you have the right questions, the good questions, listen, have follow-up questions, and just keep that conversation open and flowing. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And networking. I think not only for podcasting, but literally in any career endeavor, networking is so key. Just say yes to talking to people, put yourself out there. It's not probably going to hurt you. The more people you know, the better. who knows someone, and so that's key, I think, for anyone starting something new and for any job

network. Okay, so this is a question, Becca. I don't know if I've ever been asked this question in all the years since I've been affiliated with the Bachelor franchise, but it's, do you ever miss having, quote, normal lives where you could go places without being recognized? So here's what I find interesting about this question. Bachelor nation is a bubble. And I think a lot of people, it's easy to get caught up in that everybody knows you because the audience is big. And so many people, you know, talk about it on social media or even in publications. But I come from a world where I did not watch the show before. None of my friends watched the show before. My family members did. So I come from a world where I could have seen you, Becca, walking down the street,

and I would have never have known who you are. So I, I guess, function in a world where I don't think people know who I am because I come from a world where people did not watch the show. I think it's very easy to get caught up in thinking that everybody knows us because there is such a large audience. But the reality is, most people don't know us. Now, do we get recognized, or I'll speak for myself, I won't put words in your mouth. Do I get recognized? Absolutely. But I don't get recognized to the point where I can't eat at a restaurant. I can't grab a drink unless I go to like a college bar or something like that. But for the most part, somebody might say hi. And so I feel personally like I live a very normal life. I don't think it's hard for me to function in this

world. I mean, yes, there are times that I've been surprised and I'm like, oh my gosh, was I picking my nose. Was I doing something awkward? Was I singing in the car? But for the most part, I feel quite like I live a normal life. Mm-hmm. I don't know how you felt. A little bit of both. I think it depends on like where I'm at because like when I'm in California, no one thankfully like really cares because there's actual like cool celebrities in L.A. I would will say when I come back to my hometown in Minnesota, it's a little bit different just because it's a smaller town, you know, not as much happens in Minnesota. So it is different. Like there are times where I'll be driving down the road and I don't need, and I'll have my sunglasses on,

my hat on. Thank God for face masks now. But people will like come up. Like if I'm parked, like knock on the window or like. Really? Yeah. There's been a couple times in Minnesota where like I'll be sitting down or walking and like people have come up and like put. their arms around me. And I get very on edge just because in that instance, like the personal space and the touch scares me from strangers. And it should. Yeah. And so, and like at the end of the day, I mean, we're still people too. I would never go up to a random person and like grab them. That's just me. But yeah, I think for the most part, like you said, it is this bubble. And, you know, there's, I think when one person recognizes you and makes, you know, more of like a thing about

it then other people kind of look and they're like what's going on but usually for the most part it's so chill that yeah like you can go and do your your thing just fine unless as you said like you're at a college town or i'm in my hometown it's those are the only cases where it's a little bit more extreme right but it's only colleges i i know i was at airport one time in a group of girls one girl was like that is her and she was like are you rachel and so like it was like a basketball team of college. I'm telling you, college is the only time where it's like, okay, this is a little out of control, you know, it's a little bit too much for me. But other than that, you know, most people recognize you and don't even say anything, which, yeah, I appreciate. I will say when you

first get off the show, that's when it's the craziest. And then you feel the pressure to kind of always be on with if you're lucky enough to leave the show with a significant other. You feel like, And I remember an article came out that was like, Brian and Rachel were both on their phones and they weren't talking to each other. And it's like, okay, you feel like you need to be lovey-dovey in smiling and happy all the time right off the show. And then you kind of normal things normalize. And you're like, who does that all the time in real life? Yeah, exactly. Like you're, especially when you live with someone and you're together all the time, like you got to check your phones. You've got to still do your own thing and have your own space and time and everything. So I will say, when you mentioned college, when I was on the tour for like the month that we were traveling, it was so funny because a lot of times, whether it was before or after the show itself, like Ben and I and the dancers would go out and grab drinks or dinner at some places. And Ben would, for whatever reason, always be early and get there first and show up. And I always knew where he was because there'd be a flock of people around him.

Like one time we went out to dinner and I was like, where's Ben? And one of the servers was like, oh, he's upstairs, like, way in the back corner and he'd get up there. And the, like, entire corner is just packed with people. I'm like, I'm just going to let him do his thing. I'm not going to go over there. You know what? For guys, I think it's, they get recognized more than we do as women. And because it's the audience is mostly women, I remember I was talking to Astrid one time and she was telling me that they were doing an event in Toronto.

And it was Jason and Blake back when Jason was still single. and the line, she said, was wrapped around the door and they all kind of had stations for people to come talk to them. And people were just flocking to Blake and Jason. So it's definitely more heightened for men. And I'd be very curious to hear a Ben answer this question or, I don't know, Blake or somebody else like that. So, yeah. Yeah. The girls love the guys. I mean, even, yeah, even like doing meet and greets and having everyone just wanted to talk. to Ben and ask him like if he was still single and all these things and so yeah they they love the and they can have it they can have it i just want to keep living my life and doing what i'm doing

the recognition is not something obviously it comes with it but if i had a choice to not be recognized i'm i'm cool with that i'd rather not be recognized yeah and coming from someone who like especially if it happens at restaurants i always have food in my teeth that it's like I don't need to be recognized in that case. You're like, I have to blow my nose or something. That's what I say, thank God for the face masks. I love when people are like, is it okay if I, like, are you okay? Because they want to take a picture.

And I'm like, girl, I was on reality TV. You saw me at my worst, my ugliest. Go ahead and snap this picture. I don't care if I have on lipstick or lashes or whatever. Take the picture. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and they're going to do it anyways, whether you say yes or not.

Like, they're going to go and have their phones. That's the part I think that weirds me on more is, like, I'd rather have you just ask and, like, take one with me and smile with me than just, like, film in the corner. You know, like, just come. Let's do it together. I completely agree. So you heard it here first. Becca said, come on over. Take a picture.

If you see her. No, I'm just kidding. Leave her alone. Leave our love. All right. Let's see some more questions. oh okay well rachel i guess in terms of the podcast well let's do it in terms of podcast and as when we were leads on the show what episode did we have the most fun recording and filming and

why so wait answer this for the show our season and for the podcast oh that's good um okay for the season the best episode oh god I'm trying to think of like a drama-filled one, but then that involves Lee, who, ugh, I despise. Or the ex-girlfriend, who did she, what was the guy that had a girlfriend? I mean, I did enjoy telling DeMario off, but I'm going to be honest with you, in the moment, I was not happy. That was not my, like, going back, it was like, yeah, it was a girl power moment. But honestly, in the moment, I was so upset that they put me in that situation, and I thought I was going to lose my job. I remember thinking, I decided to be on Jerry Springer.

This isn't what the show. It was like the second week. And I was like, seriously? But that was a good episode because it was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. I will have to say no. The most fun episode was Ellen. That was a lot of fun just because I love Ellen to be on the show with her. She was so welcoming, so great.

I had met her once before because I had done her actual talk show. She was great with the man. She hated Brian. I thought that it was so fun. She was like, don't pick him. That's what she said to take. Don't pick him. I don't know if Ellen's happy with me at this point or not.

But just to see the guys open up, that was the most fun episode, I will say. It was a fun day. And the women went crazy in the audience. As for our podcast, we've had a lot of good episodes. My gosh, what would it be? I know what mine would be for the podcast. What? Well, okay, do yours then. Do yours. I have two for very different reasons. Well, first, I mean, I loved Kesha because she's just, yes. Yeah, so that's just a given. But my favorite was with Neil Lane.

Oh, that's it. Hands down. Nothing will beat that. And I feel like, I mean, we only recorded with him and probably saved like an hour of conversation with him. But we were with him for like much longer talking to him before and after and he's just like this amazing ball of energy and i freaking love neelaine and it was so much fun you call no that was it and i am so thankful that we were able to do that in person and not over zoom first of all i don't even think we could have held his attention over he would have been looking he would be like where's the camera but i no no that's it i can't top that one there will never be another episode like milane that is that he is the most interesting man alive that oh yeah yeah by far yeah so nothing yeah nothing can top him well then

what's your favorite episode from your season oh gosh uh you know it was well one of my favorites and it was one that i had asked for and i'm so happy that they gave it to me but i really wanted a lumberjack date and so it was when we were in park city and all these guys come like with their heavy boots and their suspenders and their flannel and they had to throw axes and like move these heavy ass logs and I'm watching them sweat and they're like trying to climb up these totem poles like and get to the top and like ring the bell and like it was just so much fun it was just like it was a nice day we were finally outdoors outside of the mansion it was the first place we had traveled to I think everyone just like was in this just like these great spirits um it was just a fun like super

interactive date where I like felt like I finally really got to know the guys like away from the show kind of like where we could let loose. Yeah. So that was mine. And I also for the record want to say that I threw the axe smack dab on the middle of the board before any of the men did. So that was my date. We all know women do it better. We all know that. I think though the best dates or the most fun dates are the ones towards the beginning because they're so like, hearten when you get to the end things get so heavy as you're letting people go that you care about and even though you appreciate them and they're fun and they're more meaningful the ones at the beginning it's just because we still don't know what we're getting into we're all figuring out this

journey ourselves figuring out who each other are so much fun it's like the first days of college where you're like away from your family and you're like anything can happen yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you just fall in for everybody you know it's so it's so great it's so great okay what What was the best and worst part about your time being the Bachelorette? Ooh, best and worst. Well, I'll leave with the worst just because I want to save the best for last. It's just, I don't think people realize how you're always on and you're constantly filming.

I mean, of course, every week you tune in every Monday, you see a two-hour episode, but you're filming almost 24-7. And it's very exhausting. Like, you, you, you just are always on for the guys and in the interviews. And so that part, like, it's chaotic for two months straight, basically. You really don't sleep for two months. That was probably the hardest, worst part, I would say. And then, of course, I mean, like, crying on camera is never fun.

Best part, though, I mean, well, I have to lead with, of course, meeting Garrett and meeting my partner. That's number one, hands down. But then I think forming the friendships with the girls during the bachelor season that are still lasting. And then friendships with the producers. Like they, some of them I still stay in touch with. We talk constantly. We still see. And that's the thing where I think a lot of people think like the producers are evil and that they're manipulative and it just has this bad connotation. And that's not true. Like there are some amazing people and some really life. long friendships form from that. So that's probably another, one of the best things that came

from it. Yeah. I think for me, I'll do it like you all end on the good one. The worst part for me was sending, when you got to that halfway point, sending people home. Because I underestimated how difficult it was to send people home. I thought, oh, I don't know yet. It won't be anything to just send you home. At least you'll know, before I take you all the way to the end and your feelings are too invested. I was wrong because even if you don't develop that love for them, you develop a friendship. And so you have this person who's pouring their heart out to you, sharing intimate details about their life, and you know you're not going to keep them. That was so difficult to me to encourage you to open up, but at the same time, no, this is only going to go to a certain

point. Right. You cannot prepare yourself for letting someone down in that way, and you also just can't prepare yourself for the feelings that you're just going to develop. So you just don't know. You just have to get into it. But you have to be present. You have to put yourself out there because otherwise you kind of cheat yourself from the experience. The best thing, obviously, is meeting Brian. But honestly, because I was so skeptical about it, I mean, I was open to love, but I was more so like, I'm going to represent myself as a black woman and maybe I'll find love. I doubt it. There is no way they're going to find somebody for me on the show. And I was beautifully surprised. And I'm so happy that, you know, I took a chance, that I was open, and then I found Brian at the end

of the day. And it's changed my life completely in every single way my life has changed. For better. And that's the thing. There's so much that comes from it. Of course, like, all these crazy opportunities, but the people that you get to meet along the way in those cool opportunities, like, Rachel, you were just, like, you're all over the world meeting cool people. Like, I let's be honest, I never thought I was going to meet Michael Strayhan in my entire life. Boo, not too long ago. Yeah, yeah. So, which I was very jealous.

I think I messaged you about it. But, like, had I not been on the show, I would have never probably met him or all these other cool, amazing people. So it's very special in that way. Yeah, so next question. And I think this is a good one because I feel like I get this a lot, not just from our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, but just like in everyday life. This is one of the big questions people have when they stop you on the street or want

to know something about the show. They're like, oh, my God, you're on The Bachelor? Okay, let's talk about Chris Harrison. People want to know, how involved was Chris Harrison in your seasons? Did he actually act as a sounding board and help you, or is it all just a facade? I've actually never asked you this, Becca. I'm very curious to how involved Chris was with you. Chris, I would say Chris was like my safety net, that if I would ever get overwhelmed,

I always knew he was there and had my back. like he he does genuinely care um one thing about chris that i obviously never realized until i met him being on the show was just how witty and funny he is i mean he is constantly on like he can just like he is so sharp he just kept me laughing especially in the moments when i was very stressed and anxious and overwhelmed he just he was that person i i think it was one of my most special times with him was the very last week. It was in the Maldives. I only had Garrett and Blake left. And I was really, really struggling with just knowing the gravity of the decision I had to make. And I was so overwhelmed with, like, I didn't want to hurt anyone. You know, of course, I was overwhelmed with like this feeling of love for these guys. It was just a lot. Like, I literally felt like I was going to burst in half with all of the emotion. And there was one day where, so we're in the Maldives and we have all the these like little huts along the water. And, and when you're on the show, you don't really have much alone time. You're always with people. You're always either filming or prepping, whatever it might

be. And so there was one moment where they were like, okay, you have, we're waiting for the cameras, you have an hour. And so I actually snuck away. And I knew Chris's hut was like around the corner for mine. And he was with Carrie the stylist and Gina, our amazing makeup artist. And I saw them all floating out in the water. And I'm like, I'm going to sneak away. And I knew I was going to get so in trouble for sneaking away from everyone. But I was like, I just need a moment of just normal in this chaotic thing. And so I swam over. I was actually walking on all these seashells. I think I had bloodied up my feet a little bit just trying to like go to Chris. But I just hung out on the raft with him for an hour and just talked about life and everything. And he, in that moment, I think I needed it because I was about to lose my mind. And he just talked me through some things. He's really good about it. It's, inserting his, you know, previous contestants situation to be like, don't feel bad, don't get down on yourself, don't feel hard. Like, this is, this is normal. And he just, I feel like, I felt to me sane. And then I got back and they were like, where were you? Why weren't you here?

We have so much to do. And I was like, oh, I was just with Chris. And they're like, oh, okay. So I couldn't technically get in trouble because it was with Chris. But he, he is very present. At least for me, he was very present and helped me so, so much. And a lot of that was never shown. but it was really special. Yeah, I think when you get this question, you think, oh, is he helping you pick the guys? My experience is similar to yours. Of course, I wasn't in the Maldives floating on a raft.

You were in Spain, though, drinking wine. I was. But I don't know if you know this, but Maldives is where, if they were like, you had a dream location, that's where I, that's what I wanted. So I was like, oh, so you just tell me I had to wait one more season to get the Maldives. No, but I, for me with Chris,

And this, okay, I didn't know you were going to compliment Chris the way that you did because what I was going to say is I found out that Chris and I really have very similar personalities. But now I feel like I'm bragging because you were like, oh, he's witty and he's smart. I'm like, that's not what I necessarily meant. Well, so are you, rage? Well, I'm more so just, you know, we don't know Chris when you're a contestant on this show. He comes in, he comes out. So once you become the lead, you're with a whole new set of people. You travel a day early.

It's completely different. I don't know if you guys know that. So you get to spend more time with Chris. And so what I realized is he is very sarcastic because we just see him in like a diplomatic way. Very put together. Yeah. And he's a lot more loose. And so I found that very refreshing. But he is a sounding board to answer your question. And more so similar to what Becca was saying about life. I didn't sit there and say, hey, Chris, who do you think I should choose?

It was more like, how do you navigate all this when it's over? It's going to be so overwhelming Your life is upside down I want to go back to some sense of Of normalcy How do I do that? What have other contestants done? Have you given them advice?

I don't want to lose myself in this process And forget who I am And I think Chris is amazing at doing that And he's such a straight shooter And that's what I like I need someone to just say You know what? This is what it is.

This is how it is. And so he is great for that. So he really is just like a life coach Almost because you're in such a world whirlwind living in this Bachelor bubble that you really don't even know you kind of when you when it's over you're like okay now what how do I put my shoes on right how do I how do I take a bath I don't know you know like how do I use my phone well that's that's the thing that I think we should touch on too

for everyone because when we're filming we don't have our phones we don't have all these normal things you always have somebody taking care of your schedule where you have to be when you have to be there all of your flights so one of the hardest things coming off the show for me was just to get back to normal. Like, how do I function? I remember the second I was given my phone and left at the airport alone, I had such anxiety. I was like, I don't know what to do. Yes, I went to the wrong airport.

I was like, I legit can't function as a human right now. That did not happen to me. Yeah, I had to call one of the producers to be like, I don't know where I am right now. No. I sat with my phone in my hand when I was on The Bachelor and it was over with it. I was in Finland, partly because of the election it just happened. And I was like, I'm not really trying to go back to America. I heard that was a depressing moment.

And the Finnish people were like, we have great seasonal jobs. And I thought, I might have to take you up on that. I just sat with my phone in my hand staring at it. I was afraid to turn it on. And I was afraid of all the messages I had. But then my phone really did this weird thing where none of my text messages came through. They delete after a while.

Yeah. So I was like, okay, I'm good. But I didn't want to look on the internet. I was just scared. Okay, yes. But all that to say, yes, you lose yourself in this process. It's a scary situation to go back to reality. You know, I just remember even, even this is trivial, but like pop culture news, I found out somebody had passed away that I didn't even know.

It's like you miss, you are not living in this world. Right. Like, we're in Carolot. Are you a care bear's fan? Yes. I'm not even to say Camelot. No, I did not. I'm, I bet Carol.

Yeah. No, you are. You're in this fantasy world. Yeah. It's a really much harder transition I thought personally coming back than I ever could have imagined. And then when you find someone, you are so excited and you want to tell everybody, oh my gosh, I found the love of my life and I'm engaged and I've never been engaged. You know, you're so excited, but you can't really tell. Let me see.

Let me sift through some of these. When you were on The Bachelor, I guess, or The Bachelor, was it awkward? No, Bachelor. When you were on The Bachelor, was it awkward making friends with other women on the show knowing you were all making out with the same dude? well I feel like I'm just really weird and of course it's weird like it's not comfortable but you you get so close with these girls that you've I mean I felt like at first especially I had a stronger bond with some of the girls than I did The Bachelor and so I would joke with them like yeah we're sister wise we would just make light of the situation because let's be honest

everyone knows what's going on you don't always want to see it um So, yeah, I mean, I think I was, like, a little bit not as affected. Did you talk fantasy suites with the other girls? Like, when we win in the fantasy suites? Well, no, because we were put up at that point. Okay. See, did you? We were way too open.

So we were so excited for each other if something would happen. We were like, girl, did you make out with him? Did you, we would, like, did you use tongue? And I remember Alexis, he was like, I gave him the lizard tongue. And we were like, what is that? And she was like, I just jabbed my tongue, and he blocked me with his teeth. And I lizard tonged him. And we were like, what is that?

I mean, I don't know why it's weird. I know it sounds incestuous. Maybe because there's not that much to talk about your whole life is this one guy. And these girls are your only friends. And the producers are your family members. It's kind of the setup that you have. Chris Harrison is God. I mean, it's like really how it is.

That's the setup in the world. And so, yeah, we always did. But we talked about, so I remember. I would, people were like, I was very reassured throughout the whole thing. I would get dates. I'd get group rose dates. And everyone would say, like, how are you keep getting roses? And so when we were in off days, we were always, like, I was teaching the girls to twerk.

So we were like, twerk on the walls. We would twerk on the bus. And I was like, how do you think I keep getting these roses? What do you think I'd do in my one-on-one time with Nick? I just, like, I would get in people's heads like that. And I was like, it's over when it comes to the fantasy suite, you guys. You can all just go home after the, I didn't even have sex with me. Nick in the fantasy suite, but I would just say random things like that to people, and we would

talk about what we will do when we get there and stuff. I feel like, yes. Well, now that you like, I thought you meant like after the fantasy suite moment, you'd talk about it with other girls, but at that point, but weren't you separated from everyone? So, how did that happen? Raven and I had, it was me, Raven, and Vanessa, and we had this thing. I remember before we were like, are we going to be Eskimo sisters? We kept saying that to each other. And so when I saw her when we were in that rose ceremony, you're right, we're separated. And so we were the first two out.

Or no, maybe Vanessa was out at that point. I don't even know. And we're just standing there. And I just turn and I look at her and they keep going, shh, shh, because you know you're not supposed to talk to each other? Game faces ladies. And I go, yeah, game faces. That's another behind the scenes thing. And so I turn and I look at her and we both just look and we just start laughing. And I was like,

you? And she's like, no. And she's like, you? And I was like, no. We're like, we didn't get to be Esquist. So we just kind of like laugh and looked at each other. No, well, so I never had that specific moment because I think I was brought into that roast ceremony last. And then he brought Kendall away right away. So it's like we couldn't even talk.

But no, beforehand, we were all super open. I mean, like, you have to keep in mind, people, you're living in a mansion or these houses with people that you get really close to. Like, there's not much privacy. Like, on my season, I don't know if it was the same for yours. Like, all the girls were walking around naked. Like, it was just like, it was like a sorority. And so you just get really close with the girls.

And so, of course, you make jokes. Like, Becca M, I think, was the best about, I mean, and I always knew she was joking. And so I would never get upset. Like, I could definitely see some girls being like, oh, well, he's mine. Don't talk about that. Yeah, there's always some of them. But I'm like, there is 79,000 of us girls in this house. We all know what's happening.

We're all kissing the same dude. We're all going for him. So it's like, you got to know what you're getting yourself into. And I think that that's a huge success for survival on the show. And it's actually, it's unfortunate because part. Part of the journey is making these lasting friendships. I know you're still friends with girls from the season that you were on, and so am I. And they're so a part of my life and ingrained in my life.

I can't even imagine not having those friendships. Right. You know, because you just go through something together, and you really learn a lot about each other really fast. It really bonds you in a special way, like a special weird way. Okay, this is a good one. And Brian and I talk about this all the time, actually, so I'm really curious. about you and Garrett. If you hadn't become the Bachelorette, would you have gone on Paradise if they ask you? And then also think if you hadn't chosen Garrett, do you think

Garrett would have gone on Paradise? Both of us. 1,000% Garrett would have never gone on Paradise. Okay. Hell no. Would you? Okay. Here's the thing. Before the Bachelor season, I had never watched Paradise until probably a week before I left, and one of my friends showed me one episode. And I think it was the one where the twins came in. And I was like, I was very scared. I was like, if this is what the Bachelor is going to be like, they just seemed very mean. And I was so scared. And so I would have said in that moment, no. But then I went on The Bachelor, met all these great fun girls that I was like,

hell yeah, I'd go in Paradise. Like, we'll just spend the summer together on the beach. And like, Well, why not? But, yeah, if you, like, no, I don't think I would have lasted very long on Paradise, if I'm being honest. I get sunburnt too easily. Okay, so it's so funny that you say a thousand or a hundred percent Garrett would not have gone. A thousand percent Brian would have gone on Paradise. Really? Absolutely.

And I tell them, when we watch it, I'm like, I saved you. You would have gone on this show. show. I say that to him all the time. Yeah. I would not have gone on Paradise because I was still practicing law at the time. And that's why I almost said no to Bachelorette because I didn't want to jeopardize my career. And Paradise just has a different connotation than the Bachelorette. And so I felt like if I go on this, I'm going to jeopardize my job. I see that. I would have, I say I would, you know, never say never, but I don't think I would have gone on the show unless there was just somebody I was just really into and looking forward to meeting.

But Brian... But you could have just done what everyone else did and slide into their DMs. I don't do that. I like, no, I just, I don't, I didn't even know I had DMs until six months into the bachelor at being over. I didn't even know what DMs were.

Really? Yes, I'm telling you. I'm our dinosaur. I'm archaic when it comes to, you saw what just happened when we did that live a while back? Or, for it was. Um, no, but Brian, I think Brian is such, he reminds, he's like Peter in some ways, like very hopeful, very romantic, very optimistic. And I think he would have, and he likes the show. Brian is a fan of the show. There's no secret to that. So I think he would have wanted to go to see what the experience was like. Yeah. To meet new people. To be hopeful. Oh, love didn't work out with this way. I wanted to see if I can give my all to someone else. I really, he would have gone. Interesting. Do I always wonder, like, what? who like like who would i try to think like i'm the only girl in the world for garris i'm like

who did he even go for like no one because it's not me that's how i feel i'm like yeah that's and that's how we have to think um okay next question what's the most surprising thing you learned about yourself from being the bachelorette um um from being the bachelorette Oh, man. I would say two things. One would be, and this is kind of like post-bachelorette just in the world that we live in now, that it's okay to say no to things and to take time for yourself and to not say, because there's a lot that comes from it. And I found myself, like, from my sanity, I have to say no. That's just a side thing. I think, though, from actually being on the show, it's that just to be more decisive in my decisions. and to not apologize for that. It's very easy when you're the lead, especially because you're sending guys home, you're breaking their hearts,

you're hurting them in a way, and to know that they're going to be okay and that you'll be okay and to just stand by what you feel and to not apologize, because everyone goes through things like that. Everyone has to pick and choose at times, and so to just stop saying,

sorry, if moments are uncomfortable. Yeah. I think for me it was, not being so controlling. Like, I learned to let myself go. I try to control every situation. And this was a situation I really couldn't. And the only way that this was going to work

because I knew what I wanted deep down inside was to let myself go and just let things happen and see where the chips fall. Yeah, that's good. And I struggle with that in real life. Right. But that world allows you to do that.

And if I hadn't, I never would have been able to find Brian. And so I'm really glad that I was, you know, such a, as crazy as the bachelor world is, if through therapy, if I hadn't gone to therapy before I had been on the show, I do not think I would have survived it. But definitely, I mean, truly, oh, I was going to say is that world allows you to just let yourself go because the only thing that you can be present in is with yourself and how you're feeling and focusing on the men

that are in front of you and what you really want for yourself. And if in the real world, there's so many other distractions. And so if you let yourself go and you trust the process, even if it doesn't work for you, it is truly the most beautiful learning experience because I remember coming out of The Bachelor, it didn't work for me. But I remember thinking, I know exactly what I want for myself and what's missing out of my life. Hands down. Yeah.

Because I've taken the time to focus on me. And in real life, I do not do that. Right. So one, I learn to be a little selfish and focus on me. And then two, just to let go and not control everything. And things can still work out when you don't do that. I mean, when you do that. Let it go.

I've never seen Frozen, you know that? I have not either. You are the only other person, I swear. And now it's to the point where I'm kind of happy that I haven't, because if I ever have to play the never have I ever game, that's how you get everyone outrage. Wait, the never have I ever game? Do you want to play that now?

Should I never ever really quick? Three fingers. I'll lose really quickly. I might too, though. Wait, but what are the, what's the topic? Anything. You just have to say never have I ever. And if you've done it, you put a finger down. Okay. Do you want to start or do you want me to? You start. Okay.

Well, the only thing I could have gotten you out with was the frozen thing. Okay, never have I ever been in a blimp. I have. I have. Oh, yeah. Okay. So we're doing the bachelor at batch slash bachelor version. Edition. addition um okay yeah blimps and that was a really special moment can i just say guys because as a child we used to drive past this place and there was a blimp that was sitting in this trailer and as a kid i would always say bimp bimp bimp i was obsessed with blamps so the fact that i got to go in one on the season and production didn't even know that really it was like a real thing for me yeah anyways okay boom bim never have i ever oh gosh never have I ever gotten it on in a hot tub on the show I never have I never have

I don't know what I don't think on my season I don't think I went in a hot tub with anyone oh lucky you there were no hot tubs it's we did I went in three hot tubs they had okay No, here's one thing. During my second, was it my second? No. I had a, oh yeah, it was my second one-on-one day with Colton. The night he told me he was a virgin, like that whole conversation, instead of a hot tub, there was a bathtub filled up with hot water and rose petals. And I was like, I'm not doing that. He just told me he was a virgin. I'm not about to get in a bathtub that I can't fit in myself. Was it at least like Not a regular bathtub With like the shower head in it Was it at least like It was like a nice jacuzzi

In a hotel room But it wasn't big No Okay I have another one Well I would have to put a finger down But I don't know I'm just like

Did you Well fine I'll play the game Never have I ever And I have Never have I ever Had a too hot for TV moment On my season Was there like

a hot moment that didn't air? There was a time, it was with Garrett in the Bahamas. Well, you have to share yours after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Garrett and I, it was the week before hometowns. And we had our date. We had like our dinner together. And they were like, okay, we'll let you guys go into the ocean together.

So we went and like ran into the ocean and it's nighttime. And of course, like, you have the camera, so you know the camera and, like, the team is still standing on the beach, but you're so far out there. You're not mic. It was like, it was legit our first time not mics together where we felt alone. And so we stayed out there for quite some time. And that's nice. And we heard them yelling, like, come in, we got to go because we were out there forever.

And Gere and I were just, like, having fun in the, in the ocean, hanging out, like, pretending to ignore them. And so then when we, I don't know if this should be aired, but. I want to know. So then when we walked back up on the beach, Garrett, of course, like, had to kind of readjust walking backwards a little bit so the cameras didn't get everything. But that was, I think, like, the only time that we were really, like, alone together besides Fantasy Suites. I mean, we were in, like, a car together, but that doesn't count. The ocean would have been really nice.

We didn't have that. But Brian and I had a hot tub moment that never aired. And we were in Spain. And the narrative on the date, and it was, it was a weird date. I was, like, not in the right headspace. So what you saw really was true. But then we had this moment in the hot tub that it was like, I was like, Brian, literally, fantasy sweets are tonight. Can you just wait until the evening?

It was like that. And it was so awkward because it's not like we were away in the ocean. I mean, it was good, but it was awkward because cameras were right there. And you can see all in the water. And I'm like, literally, fantasy is. tonight. It was that night. I'm like, you can't wait. Give me two hours, man. You can't wait a few hours. Yes. No, but it never aired. I really think it was just too. I really think it was too much for TV. I really once. But you know what? At least these are the men that we chose and these are

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