Bachelor Happy Hour - Rachel Lindsay as a Real Housewife? Danny Pellegrino Joins to Talk ‘Bachelor’ Drama, ‘Housewives,’ and More

Episode Date: April 13, 2021

Podcast host Danny Pellegrino joins Rachel and Becca for today’s “Happy Hour” to discuss the differences between the worlds of “The Real Housewives” and “The Bachelor.” Rachel also talks about the two times she was asked to join a “Real Housewives” cast and why she turned down the opportunity.  Plus, Danny, Rachel, and Becca discuss the online bullying each of them has experienced over the years. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Welcome back. Happy Hour listeners. Another Tuesday with you all and another Tuesday with my girl, Rachel. And we're so happy to be back chatting. We have a very special guest that we're going to have on today. And I'm not going to do the honors because this is our girl Rachel's fine.

And so Rachel, I'm going to give you a little drum roll because I know how excited you are. Save that drum roll. for our guests because that's what happy hour listeners. We have a real treat for you today. For the first time ever, we have a Bachelor and Bravo crossover here.

We have someone that I discovered during the pandemic. Now, he is the only friend that I made during this quarantine. We clicked from the moment his voice hit my ears. It was love at first housewife.

He hosts a show called Everything I iconic, named appropriately, not just for the iconic guests that come on the show, but because of the icon hosting the show. Ladies and gentlemen, Danny Pellegrino. Well, Danny, welcome. Thank you for having me. I'm so honored to be here. Well, we are very honored and excited. Love to have you. Yes, Rachel's been talking about this for, honestly, for wherever. So we are thrilled to be having you today. And let me just tell you, technically we shouldn't have him on here because he's our competitor. We battle it out every week for top. I actually have a bone to pick with both

of you because you're always a top me. You know what was putting you back on top? Was those bachelor recaps? You know, they were doing good, but I got too claustrophobic at La Quinta Inn. I just couldn't handle it. Can we handle the bubble. Okay, Danny, before we begin, so I've been catching up on your podcast. And this is something that I've told Rachel this before, because my neighbor and I both agreed that we've always said Rachel has such a soothing, just incredible voice. And after listening to you on your podcast, I'm like, damn, Danny has like really soothing, great, calming voice too. I'm like in the presence of these, like you guys need to do voiceovers. We should do an ASMR thing or something like a, yeah. I'm like eating popcorn or something. I sort of get offended

that not by you, Rebecca, but people will DM me and they'll be like, I listen to you before. as I go to sleep or this past week I got a DM somebody told me I need to stop playing sound effects because they used my show

to fall asleep to and the sound effect was like waking them up and I'm like screw you like why are you listening to me to go to sleep? Well you know

you can always put some meditation before bed have people pay for your app Rachel she listens to me to sit too I am an avid everything iconic listener like I know when they come out

I get excited. I'm like, oh my gosh, I forgot. It was Sunday and then they come early. I'm telling you, I'm an avid listener. But I listen to old episodes sometimes, like back, like 2018 to go to sleep. So I actually understand this. Don't take offense to it. You're your, I get it. I get it. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah. And I like the new sound effects, by the way. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I mean, they're fun for you. You know how it is. It's like you just got to do something. to entertain you at a certain point. You know, it's like, I just, I just got to spice it up for me. Which, okay, since you said that, let's, let's, let me ask you this question. It's talking about spicing things up and things getting a little stale. We are both and we're pulling Becca in, which I have a question about this as well, with real housewives or just Bravo in general. These, we just celebrated a 15, 15 year, 15 year anniversary of housewives since it's inception.

I personally feel like Housewives has already peaked. Yeah, totally. I feel like it hit its moment and now we're on the downward slope. Do you feel this way? And if so, like what is it that we can do to bring it back? Yeah, you know, I think we are on a downward spiral with it. I think though there will still be moments. That's what I think is beautiful about this.

I mean, every so often, even within the past six months or so, there'll be these moments like the Erica Girardi stuff for, or something that sort of sparks our interest again. And I think that will always happen with these women as long as they continue to cast these dynamic women or other dynamic women. So I think there'll always be moments, but something with social media, I think, changed quite a bit.

And the sort of community aspect of watching these shows, I think changed the game a little bit too, because now we watch and we follow them along on social media too. and so we know a little bit too much about them sometimes. So as much fun as those moments are when there's a big breaking news story with Erica Girardi or something like that, I think in the actual watching of the shows,

it's like we've almost seen the relationships already play out. I don't know if that makes sense. When do you both feel like it's reached its peak? Like, is there a series or the city or an episode, Rachel, that makes you say that? I can't think of a particular moment, but I would say maybe it's when, like, I'll use OC for an example. O.C. has fallen off in such a way, and they've gotten rid of, or people have left, key people that really brought a lot to the show. And there was this synergy with the women. You felt like they were genuine friends. And they probably hung out outside of this. And the arguments were real. And now you have all these randos, sorry, you know, like nothing personal to the women, that it just doesn't make any sense.

sense. And I feel like that's when it's going down. Because you feel too disconnected. Like maybe Danny Plainant you know too much of them from their real lives through social media where you're like, they're not actually hanging out or this isn't actually a storyline in their real life type

of thing. Yeah, as much as we know that the whole artifice of this TV show is they're putting people together that wouldn't ordinarily be friends, there still has to be some believability that some of the women would be natural friends. And so I think with Orange County specifically, it's like none of them actually feel like they would be

friends in real life, even within those parameters. It's like, I can't even suspend my disbelief to feel like Shannon would ever be friends with Kelly Dodd or Gina. Like, it just wouldn't, you can tell, and they're not good actors to prove us wrong. My peak personally was the New York, the boat trip, where the boat almost capsized. And it was sort of this like, Beautiful peak of that social media stuff. We had heard about this boat almost capsizing and all of this stuff was playing out on page six. So we were excited about the episode.

Then the episode was even better than sort of what was played out, I think, in the press. And then there was a bunch of other stuff going on at that time in the show. There was this great character or this great friendship struggle between Bethany and Carol. And then there was a lot of comedy of like these women also, I mean, I hate to laugh at,

but they also got like parasites on the trip. And so they all were like going to the bathroom at random. Ramona's shit on the floor. Was it Ramona who's shit on the floor? Yeah. Luana shit on the floor or the bed and then Ramona shit on the floor or the bed. Like this really happened back. This sounds like a guy from my season.

Oh, man. Someone pooped on the floor in your season? Well, rumor has it that a guy named Lincoln. Do remember Lincoln? and he was one of the guys that I met early. Yeah. He had a lot of other stuff out there, you know, circulating too. But that was, that was maybe that was this spin-off for real housewives.

And that's where they got the content, the material. Who knows? Well, the original poop girl was Flame with Flays, if we're really going in a history, reality TV history. Who pooped on the floor? If you could be any housewife for a day, who would you be? And why? I mean, I don't know that I'd love to do. do that, but I would love to hop into New York. I mean, we talk about New York, and I just would love

to kind of be around for one of those filings, because I do think they're all big characters, and they make me laugh so much. So I would just kind of like to observe. I don't know that I could hang with them. Like, I'm not good with confrontation, so I would immediately, like, retreat if anyone was coming after me, or like, I don't, that's, I'm not good with that. And sometimes on my show, like, when I have a housewife on, or I'll notice how they're, how they play into those. stereotypes of like wanting to argue or feud and I'm like this is not comfortable for me or I can sense that and so I would run from any of that but I would like to be in New York to just see it I wish I could so I have been approached to be on on a Housewives franchise Dallas and Miami

and Miami recently Miami yes they they like different from different people they've been like hey are you guys interested in this I'm like no we don't even live in Miami anymore I could never be a part of it. But I love confrontation. So I would live, like, I'm watching it. I'm like, ooh, if I could just like get there and I have a thing or two to say to this one, I've really, if I could, like, step outside of my body and be a part of a franchise, I totally would. But I can't, I can't do it. Could you ever do like a little guest appearance for a couple episodes? I would totally be a friend of. Right. Yeah. But I, but the right franchise.

I'm excited about the Miami reboot because I, I know those. the producers over there. And I think everything I hear, I think it's going to be really, really great. And I'm excited. I would want to be like more of a talking head. I have a fantasy of just like, I don't want to be in the mix.

I just want to be able to like be in the talking head and comment on all the absurdity, which is sort of what I guess I do on my show anyway. But I think that would be really fun. And I always think like Bethany was really great at giving a good confessional line. There's certain housewife, Nini's really great at a confessional.

Like she just would step in in front of that camera and was always so funny and always gave great sound bites. I would like to do that. Are there any cities that you think would be great to add to the franchise? Like, I've told Rachel this before, because I go down to Coronado quite a bit,

and I'm like, damn, I can't believe there's not a real housewives of Coronado, because every time I'm down there, like, there is drama going on with, like, the Navy wives, and, like, the school moms, and everyone's just, like, really rich to begin, want to be able to live on the island. So I would personally love to see a real house of Coronado. But are there any cities that you feel like we're missing at this point? That could be great. Coronado would be really fun. And I always say I wish Orange County, like we've said

has been on the decline. It's like not great. I wish they would just kind of pivot away from Orange County and do something, the same production company, just moving over to Coronado or San Diego or something like that, like in the area. I also think Vegas, I've been saying a lot, like I'm from the Midwest. I'm from Ohio. So I would love like a Cleveland. But I don't think that's going to happen. But I think of Vegas, the showgirl culture and sort of like the seedy underbelly of Vegas would be really interesting to me. That's like sort of New Orleans I think would be really cool too. I think there's like a, you know, any place that has like a really distinct culture, I think would be good. But Vegas, I love a Vegas set show in general.

And I think the showgirl kind of that world has always been fascinating to me. I'm surprised you didn't say Chicago. I would love Chicago, too. I mean, I'm Midwest boy. I would love Chicago. And I understand they've like maybe tested some shows and they've tried some stuff there that that hasn't really worked. You know, I watch Summer House a lot too. There's this guy from Minnesota on there and this you know, a few weeks ago, he was getting in a fight with another cast member and his insult, like this big insult that he hurled at this other guy was like, I don't like you. And I was just thinking that's like so Midwest. She's for Minnesota. She was sick. I was like. I was That was like the meanest thing he could think of us.

I don't like you. That would be me like getting in a fight with somebody. I'd be like, well, you really suck, but your casserole's great. That would be, I feel like what would be Midwest Housewives, which would be fun in its own sort of world, too. We could do like a real housewives like Fargo or something, if you will. I mean, I'd watch any city. Exactly.

I always say, Becca needs a little of me and I need a little of Becca. Rachel, you met with the two cities you mentioned. Did you have extensive meetings? Was it a phone call? Like, what was that? No, no, no. Someone approached me, like a manager of someone was like, hey, they're interested in you. Someone else's friend was in casting and they're like, they're interested.

And I immediately am like, no. For Dallas, though, they came to me, they messaged me or emailed me. And I was like, this person would be great. I think I sent them Alexis. and then Alexis sent them to my older sister. So my older sister actually started kind of going through it. She listens to your podcast too. And so she saw the list of questions.

And the questions that they ask you are like, what are you and your husband argue over? And I immediately was like, absolutely not. This could never be me. Because this is what I tell people about the difference between the bachelor and housewives. The bachelor, you know me in that world, living in that house with those people.

You don't know what car I drive. the friends I hang with, what the inner workings of my life are. And I like the separation. If I could just pop up as a friend for conflict, I'd totally be in. If Beverly Hills call us his friend of Garcel, I'm in. I tell Garcel that. Are you friends with Garcel? Make it happen.

The interesting thing about Bachelor, too, is it's one season versus Housewives. Usually, these women are with us for at least like two seasons, usually. I think 80% of the Housewives make it past their first season. So the whole idea of The Real Housewives, it's like the people are built up to kind of make you question how you feel about them. So they want you to fall in love with someone. And then to make good TV, they want to make the audience question how you feel about that person. So over the course of these seasons, it's like no one very rarely does someone go unscathed? Because if you fall in love with them and they get a really good editor, if they're really beloved by the audience,

Then to make good TV, they're going to make the audience question, do I love that person? Wait, maybe I'm turning on that person. That's how they're keeping us interested. So I think it's impossible to kind of go through it as a fan favorite or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Do you guys know, okay, so Danny, when we filmed The Bachelor and Bachelorette, for the most part, everything's in real time. Like during the days, you're going on the dates, you're in the house with all the contestants or with the lead. you're constantly being pulled for interviews.

So it's all pretty much real time. But I've heard, and I could be wrong, but like Housewives, even, like, Kardashians, other reality shows like that. It's all filmed, but then they go back for, like, their interviews. And do they make it feel like it's in real time?

But they're really being questioned, like all after the filming's done, like weeks or months later? I think it depends on each franchise is produced by a different production company. So I think some of them do like smaller interviews. throughout the season and then other ones maybe do like a full day and they just maybe do like two full days or something.

I don't know the exact details of it. But you know what's interesting talking about those interviews is I was just reading about the world of The Bachelor and I don't know where this interview was, but they were saying like for the bachelor or Bachelorette interviews, people are asked the same question over and over again so you eventually just snap. Is that a thing?

I don't remember that. I'm going to be honest. During The Bachelor, I was probably lit in 95% of my interviews. Same. Like, like, legit. So they didn't even have to ask you a bunch of times. What do you want to know? You know what they'll do, though, is like, I mean, they're always kind of asking you

the same series of questions to get to how you feel your emotions about a certain person. And for the men who go along longer, they're going to keep asking you kind of similar. questions to see where you started with in your relationship with this person versus like where you ended up to get the storyline. But I never felt like they repeated the same thing over and over to the point where I mean, and maybe it's also too because I was like Rachel when I was on the bad shirt, I was just like, you know, drinking wine. Like it was my job because that's all we really could do just wasting time. Yeah, but maybe for some other people. I don't know. Everyone has such a different experience from it. But I hear that.

is how it happens for the housewives. I hear the housewives, they just, especially when they have those long days of interviews, they just like, you see it. Like, you see them grabbing their drink, but I hear like they keep feeding it over and over to them. And I think at a certain point, you would just be like, okay, what do you want for me? Like, what do you want me to say? That's how I would be. I don't know that to be facts. But like, what do you, what are you looking for right now in this moment? I'll just give it to you so we can all get out of here. Yeah. I don't really remember that. But, you know, Danny, I am curious with you. You do all things, Bravo. But you dipped into the Bachelor world.

Call it, call it the pandemic, call it quarantine. I don't know. Like, we were all doing things that were a little different. Why did you decide to step in and then step back out? Yeah, you know, I think it was during, early in the pandemic, I think the Bravo shows were kind of at a weird spot. Potomac had gotten pushed back. So we didn't have as many shows going in the Bravo world as we normally do. And so throughout the years, I,

I had watched, Rachel, I think I told you, I watched most of your season, and I watched the Jake Pavelka season. So I was like loosely aware of this, but not the like extreme details of the world. And so everyone has always said, you should do the bachelor, do the bachelor's or do the bachelor's or whatever. So I finally decided to, and it was fascinating. And people had told me that that wasn't a good season because it was a pandemic-filled season. I just felt claustrophobic there. And then there was a lot of, there's a lot of stuff going on in sort of the outside Bachelor world that I'm not familiar with the inner details of that people were, you know, asking me about and all of this stuff.

And it's like, I didn't feel smart enough to speak on it. To me, like the whole call for diversity and stuff, that's something that's also going on in the Bravo world. But they're handled differently. And I don't even know how to explain that, but I just think they're handled differently. it just became, it was intense. And then by the end, I'm like, okay, I'm over this. Like, not, I don't want to say like I'm over those conversations. I was just over like the claustrophobia of the La Quintana. So you only watched Clarentatian season, correct? You didn't continue with Matt season? I didn't continue, no.

Gotcha. And, yeah. Do you think? I sort of come from, my brain, I feel like, is almost broken in a way where I, like, these questions that were surrounding Bachelor Nation, When I decided to really dive in, I was sort of asking, I think Rachel and I had talked about this and like, wait, so you guys have done 40 some seasons and you've had hundreds of contestants and there's never been a gay person on? My brain doesn't compute that. Like, I don't get it.

And so, yeah, I just, I didn't get it. It's such a different world because it's a particular audience. It's used to getting a particular product, you know, a prototype of, who the, what the lead looks like, who they are, coming from the same background, area of the country, same religion. And when you step outside of it, you see the audience respond in not the best way. And so, like, that's kind of been, it's crazy. And it's not necessarily that same way for Bravo. So I think that there's the difference. There's a lot of, there's a lot of complexities to it, which I'm sure you dipped into it. For example, having a friend named Hannah Brown and then people being upset that you had it was oh my god it was a whole thing Rachel I mean

I have my friend one of my best friends her name is Hannah Brown and she's been on my show a million times and I had had her on like I think it was after I started doing the bachelorette recap so I started to have some people who watch who came from that world listen to my show and I was like oh my friend Hannah's here or whatever who had she had been on the show a million times but this was her first time with that new sort of audience and I was getting all these messages saying like how do are you have her on and I was like what like at first I didn't even understand and then people were sending me like links to this controversy and I was like I didn't even know this controversy exists like I I try to keep up with everything that's going on in the world of pop culture but you know it's impossible to keep up with everything and yeah people were sending me like very angry DMs about having my friend on and then I had to explain to people like no that that was not that hand that was a different Hannah can we talk about this because unless you're and like Rachel and I always say like you know unless somebody's really on the show or as a contestant or a lead or some way affiliated with the show they don't understand like especially through social media bachelor nation and the amount of hate and cruelty that is spread throughout I think to anyone who probably is coming off the show but even for you who was simply doing some bachelor recaps you started to see it a little bit like is it okay I've tried to explain this so. So, like, side note, Emmanuel Acho, who hosted after the final rose this year, him and I have formed a friendship, and we've had a couple conversations about, like, you know, kind of what is Bachelor Nation like?

And after I host this, what kind of, like, feedback do you think I'm going to be receiving? And I told him, I was like, buckle up because I don't think anyone can prepare themselves for the amount of hate and nastiness that people from Boutre Nation who have been fans and especially just like who can, you know, type. whatever they want, whatever hate they want at their fingertips and hit send. You can't really fathom it until you start to see it. Were you blown away by the response for simply having a friend named Hannah Brown on your show? Yeah, I mean, I think that's sort of what I was alluding to. It just became a lot. And I don't know, especially at the time, I just wasn't necessarily like equipped to deal with it.

You know, when I started that, I had been going through like a lot of health stuff in my personal life and it was the start of the pandemic. So there was like all this stuff going on. That's just the last thing I have the, like, bandwidth to deal with in my life. But in general, even in the world of Bravo or Housewives, it's like, I think I sort of used to be of the opinion, like, oh, you're on TV. It's like something you sign up for. And now that I'm seeing it a little more closely, no one can ever be prepared to even just get one of those really nasty comments that you would see online. And nowadays, there are so many different

portals for people to send that to. You can't just hop off Twitter. I mean, if people want, they can get a mean message to me or you or you if they want. They can do it through a podcast review. They could do it through an email address, through a PR person, through a Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, any fucking service they can find. They'll find a way to get that message to you. And no human is equipped to deal with even just one of those. And usually when you get those mean messages, at least for me, and I don't get nearly the amount that you guys probably get for being on TV. But it's like, they don't teach you how to deal with that. And just because you're on TV, you're supposed to just say, okay, yeah, like I signed up for that. It's like,

no, I didn't sign up to get this kind of mean thing. Right. So is it safe to say you're taking a long-term break from the bachelor world because of some of the craziness. nastiness that was being spread out there. I mean, look, Bravo keeps me busy in general. And I like hop in around. I like doing a different show every once in a while. I did that Lindsay Lohan show. I recap for a minute.

And it's like, I'll hop in somewhere else. And so maybe one day if it's, you know, I try to go, which whatever is like going to interest me at the time. So like, you know, I might pop back in or something. But it's just a lot. I mean, there's a, there's like a culture around Bachelor Nation. In a similar way, there's a culture around Bravo. And I don't think many places on television or in the television landscape have those kind of fan bases.

I mean, Bravo had a whole con, like a Bravo con, where people would gather. And it was so much fun. But, yeah, I find it's a lot. I'm not great at dealing with any of that stuff, even within the Bravo world. It's hard for me sometimes. May I make a suggestion? If you come back, I think Paradise is your jam. I don't know how familiar you are with Paradise, but the beach, that is.

It's like guys and girls. You never know who's coming down. You're in this relationship. You think you're all great. And then someone comes in and steals them away. And it's just a lot of people love that. And there's more relationships to watch and to get invested in. Like it just, I think it was, well, yeah, it had to have been the last paradise, which was now two summers ago.

It was the first relationship where two women ended up getting engaged. Actually, did they get engaged? Demi getting, yeah, Demi got engaged. Yeah, where they were actually engaged. So it's easier to get invested in more relationships. It's not just like this one straight, narrow track where it's like this guy talking about his feelings for all these different women or vice versa. It's it has a different spin to it. It's a little bit more entertaining, a little bit more like real life, if you will.

Have you guys just gotten a tougher skin over the time since your initial time on the show? Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. I've always kind of had a thick skin. Like I come from a family where we joke and riff on one another where you've got to have thick skin to be able to hang in the family. That, but honestly just being a black woman, being a lawyer and a male dominated field, then going into sports. It's like I've always had to be able to hold my own. But like you said, nothing can prepare you. for this world. I think for me, it's like I was 31 when I came in. I have my friends and my family, my core, who ground me, keep me humble, check me if I start acting any other way. And that's who I constantly go to and get validation from rather than the people who, you know, follow me or who don't. And I think that's the thing. I don't value my worth within those people. And that's really helps me as well. And also just the logic of if you're going to accept the

praise you got to accept the criticism too it's a balancing act yeah it's it's it's very weird balancing act because you know for me like coming from minnesota i feel like for the most part you hear the minnesota nice you're not used to at least for me i came from like i had maybe four 500 followers on instagram to go from that to a million plus it's just you're so inundated with any sort of feedback or criticism or comments like it was very overwhelming at first and now you know because we've been out of the show for a few years it's we've just grown more used to it but i just i think for me the people that are going to especially the ones who are really nasty and cruel it's like at the end of the day like that that reflects so much more on who you are as a person than what

you're saying i am um it's weird like sometimes it's in a sad way. Like, I kind of find some of the responses or the DMs funny because I'm like, really? Like, you have to go there and say it. Yeah. It's just, it's crazy. The ones that, like, there are some, they're few and far between that get to me that are more like, um, they bring

my family into it or they talk about my dad who has been, you know, deceased now for a decade, like bringing him into it and being like he would be so disappointed and you know, he's probably rolling over in his grave. Stuff like that where I'm like, okay, that's not okay. Now at this point, I've gotten, I told Rachel this last week, my give a shit level is like

zero at this point that I'm just like, I'll just put them on blast and just put them on, like, I won't even like hide their face or their name on Instagram. I'll just put it on my story and be like, well, if you're going to dish it, you might as well be able to take it. So. Yeah. I've been popping off for such a long time. I almost kind of like feed off of it sometimes.

I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to say something that's going to get people all riled up. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, though, I really have to go back to that last season. I did watch at the La Kinta Inn, and I did enjoy a lot of it. So I don't want it to seem like I hated it because there was a lot of it. I mean, I loved the Claire portion of it the most because I thought it was just so very unhinged in reality TV sort of world. And I fell in love with Kenny. Like, I follow him on Instagram still. I don't know. Do we like him? Do we like Kenny?

It was because of you that I learned about the images. Oh, yeah. Kenny's naked pictures are beautiful. This I told him the cock. You know what I mean? while it was at i mean i i was like oh my gosh that's how i like immediately ran to google and then i fell asleep and i woke up the next day and i looked at like i was trying to google something and i was like oh my god thank god nobody was behind me because it was just kitty and his dick to this day to this day Kenny and i will still DM if i ever see like a rooster in a store or like a you know like they have like the rooster like cookie holder things like if i ever see when now i just DMM any kind of cock

I see. Like the other day I was looking at a home and I was on the third floor balcony and I looked down and this person had just like chickens roaming in their backyard and so I just like did the super zoom of the chicken real quick. But yeah we like Kenny. Kenny is so sweet. He's just so gorgeous and he's very, I think he lives

in Chicago and he's the only one I think besides Rachel you you know there's not a lot of people from the Bachelor world that I follow on Instagram but I follow him and he seems like a nice Chicago boy like the kind of guy I would have liked growing up like i don't know i get that impression yeah no totally like i'm speaking of impressions

you do several of them on the show now i have to know which one's your favorite and i pray that it's it's mine and if it's not i'm so i'm gonna ask you do it anyway you know the impressions are i don't i feel like i'm a terrible impression of impressionist and maybe that's why people like them but um the luann one is fun because it's she's it's just the cookie monster you know she's they love me It's really, it's terrible.

Like, it's, I sound like the cookie monster. People say like Grover from Sesame Street or Yoda and it's terrible. Every time you do Luann, and I was praying that was the one that you said, I tackle out loud. Like, it never gets old to me. It's always unexpected. It's not, Becca, you got to listen to Louvance and then remember this impression that he just did. It's funny that you say that because I was just recapping like the Real House is in New York trailer. that came out. And so I hadn't done that Luann impression in a while. And so I did it in this

episode I did. And later, like, my boyfriend was talking to me and I'm just like, oh, I don't really want to talk now. Like, I was, being so dramatic. Like, oh, my voice is really tired or something. He's like, what's wrong? I was like, I was, you know, doing Luan earlier. And it was like, I just, like, came back from war or something. Like, it's like, I can't speak. Damie, I will say, I just listened to your most recent podcast where you, you recapped the the Roney trailer, and just listening to that clip of what is to come. I mean, and I hate to admit this, and Rachel knows I have to get caught up on Real House Fives.

I used to be a huge fan back in the day. I kind of hopped off the bandwagon for a little bit, but I think I'm hooked. You just sounded so Minnesota right there. Bandwagon or what did you? I know I'm with a fellow Midwesterner. It just comes out. You hop back in with New York. It's the best.

Yeah, no, no, no. that I will say that trailer and then I watched it actually so I listened to it and then I watched it and I was like I'm sold sign me up what night does it air because I'm going to be at Rachel's place watching it come it's so it's up to be our new thing

I can't and those women are like that in real life like having been out around them I it's it's a joy to watch I didn't I tell you Danny that Sonia tried to invite herself to my Batsarap party yeah I think yeah yeah yeah yeah the do cabaret she want to be too high or her

to do cabaret to come to Costa Rica. And you said no, why? I wasn't going to pay her for that. I wasn't going to pay her. She wouldn't show much. I would twer come instead. Can you just have another fake bachelorette party just so she can come and do this, please? I would do it in New York.

Yes. If you're listening, I would hire you for a cabaret show, and it doesn't even need to be a bachelor's party. Right. We'll just do it on a Friday night. Yeah, exactly. Sonia, I think the New York women, they all just feel real. I mean, they feel like, wait, I should say they feel.

They feel like cartoons that are not scripted. Does that make sense? Yes. Yes, it does. Becca, you have to watch it. If you had to give an elevator pitch to someone who doesn't watch Bravo shows, what is it that you would say to them to reel them in? Or maybe who've lost their way, like Becca.

She's lost her way. Bring her back in. For the real house, I'd say still, unfortunately, in 2021, it's one of the only places on television scripted or otherwise that we're going to see women who are in marriages, getting out of marriages, working, starting businesses, sending kids off to school,

having children. You know, the whole human experience, unfortunately, is not represented. I could turn on HBO, and yes, once in a while there's a great miniseries, like big little lies or something like that. But for the most part,

Bravo's the only network that is giving us these three-dimensional portrayals of women over 40, or over 50, over 60. Ramona's in her 60s now, I think, and she's still a very sexual person, and she's still vibrant in ways that scripted seems to not show us.

And other reality TV shows tend to focus on the younger demographic. And sometimes we get some young people, you know, there's young people that are relatable and are sort of entry points into the series if they're like sometimes 30 years old or something like that. But then I really think the shows thrive by showing that older demographic. Which I have a great question because I don't know if you've seen this. And it has yet to start. I believe they're in the middle of casting for this,

but they actually are starting a new Bachelor series that is, I think, for people 60 and older, 55 and older, so it's a more mature audience, more mature. That's smart. Of people who will be dating, I mean, I personally would love to sign my mother up for it, but is that something that you could jump on board with? Oh, yeah.

Is it going to be like official bachelor or is it like that? Oh, see, I think that's great. I think they should do more of that. You know, speaking of the gay thing, it's like, I don't understand why one cycle can't just be a gay cycle. Like, we don't have to get rid of any of the regular batch or bachelettes, but let's throw in some old people. Let's throw in some lesbian, or whatever it is, just add them in there. We're doing all these cycles. Let's get some new stuff going. And in terms of, like, the older demographic, I love, I think a lot of young people who love watching stuff like the Golden Girls because there's

still going through the same human experience that we all are, and we want to see that, I think. I think for some reason, there's this idea that young people aren't interested in an older demographic, but I think audiences actually are, and we're just not presented that at all. Yeah. I agree. Well, especially, I mean, I turned 30 last year, and I just, and I've said this to Rachel, I think every time we recap a season, like, it's so hard for me to start to relate now to women who are 22, 23, 24 on the show and who are just, it's starting to skew a little bit younger

now. And so I totally am with you in, like, especially when you know people have lived a full life and have gone through so many different, so many more experiences and just bring such a unique set and like skill and mindset to the table, I think is so much more interesting. So I'm with you. Right. I want to see it. Yeah. We will. It's happening. started with old bachelor i shouldn't say it that way um seasoned bachelor they're seasoned i don't even know what they're calling it to be honest

i'll watch the shit out of that yeah see i'm more i'm more that's more interesting to me than just like the one i mean i the claire season i watched that whole the whole first five episodes shoot i'm 39 it was like this big thing that she's there and like 39 is not even old like why are we acting like that's something crazy because i was the oldest before claire at 31 coming in That's the world. There was a season where there was a 31-year-old or 30-year-old, and they were calling her grandma. That's the mindset of this show. And it hasn't evolved at all, I mean, slowly now, but in the last 19 years.

You know, Paramount Plus just started the challenge. They have like an All-Stars version. So I don't know if you ever watched that MTV show, The Challenge. It started like 100 years ago. But now they have to see, yeah, it's still really good. But now they have a new season that's all of those people from back in the day that we used to watch or that I used to watch when I was a teenager. In the first episode, I had like a serotonin boost just seeing these people like there's still, there's a couple contestants over 50. And they're still very athletic.

They're still very entertaining on television. And, you know, I think it's great. And the original real world rebooted too. And those are conversations that they're having in the reboot are way more interesting than some of these conversations. we've seen a million times with people who are 29 years old. Right. It seems way more superficial. You guys are just giving me so many lists of TV shows that I have to binge.

There's a lot out there. And Andy Cohen, who we all know and love, has his new series coming out. Reality TV, for real or something like that. It's a documentary series. And that's so good, too. I mean, I eat all this stuff up. So I love seeing all like the behind the scenes and Andy's the best. And so speaking of Andy, he was on your podcast.

Was that just an absolute dream come true for you? Yeah, it was so cool. Talking to him about all the houseways stuff was really great. But then also talking about him being like a public figure and being a father as a public figure, I think is really impactful. Because growing up, I never saw that on TV anywhere, like a gay man who was so public with his son. And so that was really fascinating. And he's also a talk show junkie. I love talk shows.

And so I don't know. I think he's really smart and I'm grateful for all that he's given us, obviously. So it was really exciting. Yeah, I like love him. I'm such an interesting. What I loved is that he's a fan of you. And I think that's pretty, that's got to be pretty cool and reassuring of the work that you do, you know, to know that, like Andy Cohen, who, what do they call him on bitch, bitch ses, are. Lord and save, no, is they called that?

Something along those lines. Their adjectives likes that. I like that. With June. I'm mixing that, whatever they call her to. But yeah, I haven't listened to them in a while, but I just forgot that they call her. We love, yeah, they're the best, too. You know, Bitch Sush was the first, I went to their first live show. So it's weird to me.

I've always been a fan of this world. And even them, I had them on my show, too, over the summer, Casey and Danielle. And it was so exciting to me because I went to their, live show is just a fan of theirs and the fan of this world. And it was like a rock concert, that first live show they ever did. It was like the most incredible thing ever. And now you do your own live shows. It's awesome. I know. It's wild. Yeah. It's wild. Who have you, who has made you the most nervous having done your podcast? Like, is there anyone where, because I've, I've definitely fanned girl on our podcast, especially last year. We had some singers when Bachelor had a spin-off,

listen to your heart series. So who for you? Which I heard it was wild. And I need to get into that because the whole concept of listen to your heart just blows my mind. It was good. It was fun. And they just brought on so many incredible musical guests as judges that like that was the really cool part too. Yeah. I was really nervous. I had Cameron Diaz on and I get nervous with everyone over this Zoom situation because I'm a one man band and I'm always just thinking the technology is going to fuck up and I'm just going to lose a whole interview or something. So I was really just I wanted that to go perfectly and I grew up watching her and loving her

so she was special and and Andy was really great I'm trying to think of there's been so many before the sort of shut down Jennifer Love Hewitt was on my show too and I had her poster on my wall when I was growing up and so that was wild she like came in

she was in my kitchen recording and I was like this is just a weird it was a weird thing you're like you know David after dinosaur, he's like, is this real life? Yeah. I know people might be rolling their eyes or whatever because she's

not necessarily like a list or anything now, but yeah, I had her poster on my wall as a teen. And I thought I was in love with her. Turns out I was in love with like her co-stars, Ryan Phillipie and Pretty Prince Jr. Listen, we have a 90s love over here, so you're in good company.

We get it. Wait, who was, okay, so I want to know your 90s crushes. Oh, God. Jonathan J.T. Thomas. JCT Devin Sawah Because I loved him in Is that he to say the same?

I loved him in Casper And now and then Oh now and then I wasn't allowed to watch Now and then So I had to sneak and watch There were so many movies That was the one where they put the

Putting in the balloons right And then put him in their bra Yes I was just talking to my girlfriend About that movie Because she had never seen it So I'm trying to describe like the movie And basically I'm like There's just like one scene that you have to watch

but do you guys remember the Hansen brothers? Oh yeah. No, no, not Hansen. Yeah. No, Zach Hansen, no, I don't know what it was. I still have the Hansen shirt that I wear. I like wore to the airport pre-COVID and I had, I think like six women my age around their early 30s, stop me asking where they could buy it.

And I'm like, this is vintage 1996 from the CD store at the Burnsville Mall. Thanks, guys. no yeah no not Hansen Brandon Adams that's who I was looking at Brandon Adams he was in Mighty Ducks Um Wait who was he in Mighty Ducks because I was a huge Mighty Ducks fan

Jesse Yeah yeah yeah he was in a bunch This movie Polly that I loved Which was the black version of Pollyanna It's so like nobody's seen it I swear but me Yeah he was so my crush So my crush

Brandon Adams yes yes I also had a weird obsession with, I don't know his real name, but Savage Garden. Oh, yeah. The truly madly deeply singer. Is Darren Hayes? I might, wait, yeah.

I want to stand with you. We did, I love when Danny sings. We, um, we did, uh, we had like a 90s playlist jam the other day. Like, you're, I'm telling you. We just keep a on and on in some way somehow. Right. Right.

I remember MTV, we talked about MTV before, but they used to do like their spring break coverage where like there wouldn't be a blouse in sight on the men like they were always topless and just they would do like whipped cream bikini contest and stuff like that and for my young impressionable eyes it was just so overwhelming at the time those people were the I mean the host were the coolest back in the day and then it's like we don't see them at all anymore I so wanted to be at spring break Rachel by the way my boyfriend he is obsessed with your show on MTV like obsessed with it he's like you have to tell Rachel that I love her show said Yeah, he loves ghosted.

Yes, please tell him, thank you. Maybe we'll get a season three. Oh, Danny, we could talk to you on and on and on. But unfortunately, we have to let you go. So it's been a treat. Well, long overdue. Thank you. It was my pleasure.

It was so nice meeting you, Becca and Rachel. It was so nice to see you. Thank you for having me. Okay, Danny. Also, I will say, I'm going to get caught up. You've been an absolute pleasure to chat with. I'm going to continue to listen to that. calming, soothing voice of yours.

I promise I will not fall asleep during the podcast. But yeah, once I'm caught up, the three of us are getting together. We are rehashing all that we see on Roney. Please, I'm getting vaccinated. So come on by. We all live in the same neighborhood. And when Roney starts,

you'll both come on my show and do a recap, whether you like it or not. Okay, love you back. Love you, back. Love you, baby. Take care. He is such a pleasure. Danny is fantastic.

and well you know what's fun is we always have only people on who obviously are just so infiltrated with the world of bachelor nation that it's really refreshing even though i have no idea what's going on right now in the real in the world of real housewives to have somebody bring a fresh take for a new show that i can now binge watch right he is a pop culture savant he knows all things about everything like he is pop up video personified and so that's that makes it like so much more so much more rich it's like he does the podcast by himself and talks for 45 minutes there is such an art like a skill level that it very few can do they can do that and entertain you and make you laugh he's like uh who

regina or um oh no no he's like gretchen from from mean girls where they say like her hair so big because it's so full of secrets, but he just like is so full of all things reality TV. And I will say like after getting caught up on his last few episodes on his podcast, I kept thinking like, oh, are they going to bring somebody on? Are they going to bring somebody on? And he just does it. And the fact that he can talk and, and as you said, just know so much and is so well versed in it, I was like, damn, he's incredible. And it's been going on for such a long time. So yeah, it really does take some skill. And I can't wait to actually, since, down once I'm caught up and a chat with him again once I actually have more of a take on what

he's talking about. Yeah. You did good though. You did very well for not knowing Bravo. I mean, I'm trying. I'm going to keep pushing for that Real Housewives of the Midwest. I see it in your future. I see a Bravo fanatic in your future. Oh, she's going to come out. It has been an absolute blast. As always, I love having you on. I missed you. And I'm going to keep saying that to all of our bachelor happy hour listeners. Thank you guys. for hanging out with us. A huge thank you to Danny for stopping by. And you guys, don't forget, you can keep writing to us, letting us know your thoughts and who you want to continue to have on as guests to listen to. You know where to find us by now, but if not, you can find us at Bachelor

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