Bachelor Happy Hour - Rachel Nance Part 2 — Behind-the-Scenes Tea from Joey’s Season | Happy Hour

Episode Date: August 12, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re back for part two with Rachel Nance, and we’re getting into the behind-the-scenes tea of our dreams. She dishes on so many unseen moments from Joey’s season of “The Bachelor” including, who she argued with in Spain, the making of a surprise visit from her best friend at “The Women Tell All," and the travel chaos the women experienced in Jasper. With the help of producer Katie, we're getting a look into Joey's season like never before. Plus, our hosts give their post-interview thoughts including who they see Rachel Nance ending up with if she hits the beach this summer. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Nance, so let's get into it. We are going to transition to a very fun game. This week, we have been doing behind-the-scenes photos, so we are going to share some behind-the-scene photos that the audience has never seen, and probably you haven't seen yourself either. So, We're going to show them. You're going to have to give us the backstory. So just make sure that you explain it very well for our audience to keep track with on our Instagram, wherever they see the photos. Okay. Great. Let's get our first one in. Sweating. Oh my gosh. This was so fun. This is great. It's the nurse in me. Okay. So this was what I think the first group date or this is the first group date. And it's, This is my version of the Last Supper. I was to say biblically accurate last summer.

And Jesus is laughing at this because it's Evelyn's feet in the air because she dove to get the chair next to Joey. It's, oh my gosh, there's Maria, there's Lauren, there's Erica, there's Kelsey T, there's, is that Taylor? And then there's me reaching because why are we jumping? You know? And I even after, it was so funny, I went to her, I said, girl, we don't jump for a man. They jump for us. Sister, we don't do that. Not for a chance.

Kelsey's face. I'm like, why did that sound bite not make air? Like, I'm hollering. No, I'm like, we don't, we don't do that. You know what I'm saying? That was honestly, an insane moment. No. I said, I think she broke the plate.

I'm pretty sure she'd be. Something's broken. I'm like. I wasn't hurt. But I just, I remember I said, girl, that's, no. Oh, this is date one. This is date one, sister. Yes.

Who got the group date, Rose, on this date? Do you remember? Wasn't it you right? No. I won that date. I won that whole, I won the first dance, but I, the group, the, I actually don't know. I didn't really pay attention to much until it was, like, final six. She goes, I don't know what's happening.

All I know is I have a rose. She said, right. I was like, she says bliss until you get to, like, less girls. I was like, the more I care, the most. where I would go crazy. So I didn't pay attention to probably like week six. I was kind of focused. Okay. Well, I guarantee you all the other girls are paying attention because you're the one that got the slow dance in front of Michael Bolton. Yeah, I don't know how I got picked you. I said don't know how. Well, because my speech, I made it while peeing and I think that was funny.

I think you could have said anything. He still would have picked you. My neck's fun of. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Wait, why I'm going to go. Oh, this was such a time. Wow, everyone looks so different. I'm like, is that Kelsey in the middle? That's Kelsey. Oh my goodness. Oh my gosh. Wow. Aw. We were, this was when we were first travel.

Good Leah. I'm like everyone's babies. So it's a group of us getting off the plane and we had to walk down on the runway to get to, I think, our next flight. But it's all of us and someone was like, smile and we're all so tired, but we all locked in and went, like, walking off exhausted. They're like, everyone love each other. We said, okay. Oh my gosh. Yeah, this is the thing.

I think so when we're all really getting very, very close because we're about to go to Malta. Oh my gosh. Wait, I forgot about that photo. How was it traveling together on y'all season? Oh, I mean, I think we had the best time. Mind you, okay, so they're trying to think of a name for us because like, okay, there's a ton of women, you know, traveling. What are we going to be? I said we should say we're either, because most of us are.

tall. So I said either were models or like a something simple, something basic or like a dance crew. And then someone goes, oh, we could just say that we're in a math club or a bowling club. And I said, sister. A bowling club? Okay. But it actually worked out in our favorite. Lay and I were sat next to each other and the plane had a bowling game on the screen. And so this lady was like, what are you guys here for? And she goes, bowling, clicks the game. You know, she's just playing it in the flight. And I is unreal. After the lady talks to us, she goes, I know you're lying.

I know yours aren't for bowling. You have to be for something else. Like you guys are gorgeous. You know, there's a group of stunning girls on a flight. Like, that's just not a bowling team. And so we went and just went off the plane. I can't. People have to remember how sketchy it looks too because it's a group of gorgeous women

with no phones following around one person, usually a male producer. Yeah, my, don't let it be a man. It looks so bad. It looks horrible. You look mad. It's like wink if you need help, you know, or hold that angel, whatever that's the thing. But, yeah, we had, I think it was, like, it was stressful for the producers, but I think because we had to just follow them like puppies.

We had the best time that's where to go. And we got to see the world for, I mean, for free when you guys dime. Just our emotional sanity. That's the only thing we pay. Yeah. Okay. Next photo. I like this game.

my gosh okay so this is a picture of me this was before I just got to Mexico this is when we were final three and I was like oh this tub looks so comfy can I sit in it and I sat in it and I was like this is so

comfortable I feel so stressed so I sat and fully done in my long dress so hot in Mexico is my first time in Mexico and I was actually taking it and I was really excited to be there. I didn't realize I was going to, you know, jump and almost break my jaw the next, the next day. This is just me in a tub. Like, why am I in a tub without water? It's fun. What was it like for you? Because for those who don't know, once you get to the final

three, they kind of separate us. So you're finally alone for the first time. What was that like for you? I was very sad because they separated us. As soon as it was final three, there's a photo of Daisy Kelsey and I holding roses. And I remember they said, okay, say your goodbyes. And I was like, why? And they're like, well, you can't see each other again until the next ceremony. And I got so close to them. Kelsey A and roommates back to back in Spain and in Canada. So we spent a lot of time together. So I was very, very sad about that. And it takes a mental toll because you're like, what are they thinking? Like, what am I think? What are they doing? You know, you have to try to distract yourself, but you don't have much to distract yourself. So you're just sitting in the room thinking like, oh, wow,

this could be it either I'm going to go home or, you know, it's, it's now looking back, I'm like, wow, it was really a challenge, I think, to like push through that because you just don't know what's happening on the other side with the other girls. And then you don't know how they're doing either. Yeah. Especially because it's fantasy sweet week. And I remember I was sitting there spiraling every single night. I'm like, what's happening? What's happening? And you just have to like sit there with no distraction. The Lord knew to send me home. Is that charity? I wouldn't wish it upon anyone.

The Lord Nuta said, goodbye charity. Your child here is overweight. And it got in your favor. Hello. It did. Oh, my goodness. Aw. Oh, wait.

Okay. Oh my gosh. Wait, I love this photo. Aw. Best friend, Noel. Oh, my gosh. Wait, this is such a good photo. She watched the show.

she actually was a fan of the show and we lived together we were roommates and um she joey was announced and she came to my bedroom and she was like oh my gosh like joey's about her and i said girl i don't care about that show and she pinkly was like i'm gonna i'm gonna just like send a photo of you as a like as a joke um and then i got picked and so i left and then i came back and she was she was the one person i called when i was like i was the one person i called when i was the mansion i need to go home i can't do this and so preza she was my she's my producer and she was like i think we did give rachel a call like she's not doing well and they said you have like one person to call and she noel is the one person who will always answer my phone no matter what and i called her and she

answered on like the second ring she's like hello and it was an unknown number i was like hi and i'm crying she goes you got this like it's fine like i'm going to see when you get home and it makes me emotional because we had like a TIF recently and we didn't talk for like almost a year. And I talked about this. And we just realized we couldn't live without each other. We just rekindled our friendship. And she's just like a little over my life. I absolutely cannot imagine my life without her.

So yeah, it's a sweet photo. It's her. They couldn't bring my family, but they surprised me and brought Noelle to the episode of Women to Law. And she's the first person I wanted to hug after. Wait. That is very sweet. I love her.

Rachel, I was standing backstage with Noelle and it was like, she doesn't know you're here. We know that like this is going to really just, she cannot know you're here because she's got to go on stage and she's got to do her thing. But we're going to sneak you in right as she sits down. So the first person she sees is you from the hot seat. So you're going to be that moment of confidence for her. And I just remember seeing the two of you guys lock eyes. And the second you wrapped your hot seat, it was like, Noel just beeline for you up there. I know.

I was like, with my phone, I was like, I have to go get this for them because I know they're going to want this moment. Record it for the rest of their lives. And then that's so. And is a red string. What is that theory? What is that theory? Red string. There's some theory, but there's a photo of her and I before we ever knew each other in the same picture.

And we found it after we became friends, her mom was going. going through old photos of Noelle in middle school, and I'm behind her. I'm standing behind her. And we don't know each other. And then we met the year after and became best friends. And so she's just, we've been through a lot. So that's why I get emotional. This is very sweet.

We've been through it. So we need Noel to be flown out to Bachelor in Paradise next season when you get engaged. And when you get engaged, we bring out Noel and then we put it next to this photo. And when Rachel gets engaged to Ron. There we go. He's mercy. I have to turn this into some, hello, to some humor. I need a focus.

I have like, dating right now is on the, is on the agenda, but I have so many great, like, so many great things happening the next month and I'm like, I want to, you know. Yeah. And both things can be true. We support all endeavors. Hello. You talking to the right one over here. I support any and everything.

But yes. I love it. Oh my gosh. That photo is. how'd you guys put that photo? I know. No, it's like sweet. I'm like, we like seeing emotional, Rachel. Very cute.

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Once you've established that you have the talent, it's about the hang. It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang. We would sit in kibbets for hours and then eventually, get around to the music. That's what I mostly think of when I think of him, the time together laughing. Lawyer of Robbie Kaplan. The great gift of being a lawyer is the ability to actually change things in our society in a way that very few people can. You can really make a difference to causes in the United States if you bring the right case at the right time. Marriage equality. Yeah, Windsor's the perfect example.

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a bad picture. Yeah, Rachel, tell us more. What are you talking about? I think people will show me a photo and instantly. I'm like, oh, yeah, they're okay. But then in person, I'm like, oh, my goodness, wow, you're actually. So let's hear your thoughts on these photos. He's adorable.

You know what? Before you open up. Give us more than adorable. Like, tell me out about that jaw line. Tell me about the hair. Come on. Okay. Before we close out, our time machine behind the scenes segment, can you leave the audience?

with one tiny little piece of tea that happened behind the scenes that maybe we didn't see. Oh, okay, so I can say this now because Marie and I are cool. I've never had beef with Maria ever. But in there's an episode, it's in Spain, and it's when Maria's talking to, I forget what the encounter is. There's something, you know, because in our season they made that they made everything like 10 times than it was bigger than it was supposed to be. But there's a clip where you see my hand literally just like this, like this. And it's me yelling across.

And I was, because she was, her and Leah were going at it. And I was like, not too, I was like, not too much on my sister. I was like, no, no, no, no. So there's a whole segment of me like, screaming, saying something. And then they had to pull me away because they're like, Rachel, it's, that's just calm down. Let's just bring it to center. But yeah, that's about it. You can see my hand, like, in the corner of the screen because I'm, like, kind of yelling.

And they clicked it out. But I think that's it. I think everything was pretty much shown. There wasn't anything crazy that happened behind the scenes that I remember. I've heard through whatever source I have that there was a lot when there were interactions with Maria. Do you know anything about that? Is that true? I love her, but that's what I heard.

Because all my interactions with her were great. Like, we never. And again, like I said, I wasn't paying attention until there was less of us. So there probably was, but damn, I wish I saw some stuff because I love that I'm not involved in. Wasn't it Jasper? Is Jasper where y'all went to? Wasn't there like a lot of drama there? Or like just some like weird, people were moving very strangely. Yeah, I think tensions were very, very high in Jasper. There was a lot going on, right? Like when we traveled, you know, there was bedbugs and half of us had to be able to be able to be.

other thing. All my luggage was lost going to Jasper. Like there were so many things. Like most of my dresses were ruined because they were sent to a dry cleaner. So a lot of our, I think everyone was just, the stakes were so high. Like they're sick. Everyone's, you know, uncomfortable. We don't really know what's happening half the time. So yes, I think naturally there was a lot of tension. It wasn't anything personal. It was just at this point we spent so much time together and we're hearing each other talk about the same guy and We never to have them so much. And it's a lot, you're getting closer to women,

but now you have to realize you have to get distance to them because it's like, okay, it's getting real. Like, I can't really be as close to you. So, yeah, like, even Daisy and I, we had a conversation. It was off camera. And I told her and I said, no matter if it's you or me, let's take the space because I want to stay friends with you. You know, through this.

And so we had to have that hard conversation because I said, if it is you or if it is whoever it is, I love you so much. that I don't want to lose contact. So we had, we talked a lot about that because we got so close. I'm happy with Thor. So now I have. But, yeah, we were having a lot of tough conversations, a lot of us. Yeah, Jasper was tough.

Jasper was cursed, it sounds like. Yeah. Though the bedbugs was, and well, we saw it in Montreal first. And I caught it in a cup. I put it in a cup to show the hotel people, because I was like there's bed books, there's none. So I grabbed to show them. And poor Kelsey T.

It was in her room and that poor girl was, she crashed out a little bit, rightfully so. Because take my skin off, rip my skin off. No, at this point. Yeah, it was a stressful time. It was a lot. Oh, we like the tea. That was great tea. Yes, no, thank you.

Because I've always been so curious about Joey's season just seems so elusive from what I saw to what I saw. Not to what I heard. It feels like the story is not soaring. But I love that they were like, and Rachel's going to be in the other room. She's not going to see any of this because she's not participating. That's amazing. That is absolutely incredible. That was very vocal too.

If I was just over something or Rachel was like not having it. Well, and I think we see that. We see that like even with what was like shown to us. It's like and I think that's what people kind of fixated a little bit too much on with you specifically like, oh, Rachel's face and I'm like, I know you, you can't, like, you wear everything on your, on your face. So I'm working on it. I'm working on it because, okay, so I was at work, guys, I was at work and this doctor was like, I know I'm rambling. This doctor was like, hey, so I'm thinking for our patient we should do. And I said this. He goes, you don't agree. And I was like, oh, no, I'm just listening

to what you're saying. And he's like, no, your face is saying you don't agree. And I said, no, doc, I don't agree. I think that's all wrong. I think it's all wrong, everything you're saying. So I am working on my facial expressions. I found that it is very expressive. That's okay. I think you should keep it. Yeah, I never changed. Like when I do my acting classes, they're like, your face is so expressive.

Like you know what you're, you know, what you're thinking. When I'm teaching Pilates, they just know when I hate something. I'm like, I hate this exercise. We're just going to do it. Mm-hmm. It works. Well, thank you, Rachel. This is great.

I'm like, I will, no, I will still have to call for additional details. However. This was a great We'll look at a cool great face time after this But we are so happy that you came and spent time with us today on Happy Hour Where can our listeners follow and keep up with you? Rachel Marie Ann or you can also follow in my bio It's Renewed by Rach.

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Let's talk about it. We need to get into it because there's nothing and there's no one. I need to see on the beach more than Rachel. I couldn't agree more. And for those listening, there is no confirmed Paradise cast. But if me and Charity are going to do one thing, we're going to. going to cast people and we're going to put it into the universe until they have no choice but to go and to cast them. Exactly. And I'm like at this point, we are the casting directors and I just

self-appointed myself that. And that's fine because I do see the bigger picture in all of this. I see personalities. I see people who look good together. I see people who might hate each other. And I'm like, I want it all. I want it all mixed and blended down there in that sand. Yes. And you know who I was thinking also? As soon. as we stop talking about it, Malique. Oh my gosh, she would be a great match. I, I'm curious. I don't think so.

No, why's that? No. I think, like, I think not in a bad way, because I'm like, obviously we also love Malik. I think he's too polished for her. I think she needs someone that's a little bit, like, Rachel's very, like, outdoor, like, not in a bad way. She's just very outdoorsy. like she has her like super glam moments but she has her also like very chill and you know not so glam moments

like she wears both very well but i think malique is you know he's black excellence he is he is i'm trying to think because now that you say that i'm going back through the cast and trying to think because i love ron but i would say that ron is also polished you think i don't know i feel like And he could be. Who gives, I would go camping and be like rugged. Oh, the one that gave the shark to. I don't think they would be a good mat. I don't think so, but I'm like, they would look good together.

They would look fantastic together. The looks department is covered. Is it Richard? Is his name Richard? I'm blinking. Richard. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He gives that. That's very much Rachel's like, aesthetic and like vibe. So in that terms, they could be in alignment, but personality-wise, I'm not quite sure. I also want to- I wouldn't put my money on it. Okay. I want to ask because she had mentioned in so many words that these men are going off to film with someone on the side. Yeah. And I know that because that happened to me. And me as well. Wait. What do you mean? There was literally nothing else interesting.

Well, my season was interesting, but like in terms of drama. So after my season, a Bachelorette, I like obviously get my phone back. And one of the first messages I have is from a girl that was talking to Aaron B. And it became this whole thing. I went to Paradise on your season to like clear that up. And I was like, listen, I support whatever you got going on. But it just, I'm not about to be the girl on the side. Like I just want to make sure your motives were clear.

when you were down there pursuing me. So it became this whole thing, but he basically had told her that he was doing something and she thought it was like they were on a break or whatever. And he ended up doing The Bachelorette. And she was like, he lied to me. It was just like this whole thing. It was crazy. Did you guys end up talking about that in paradise?

A little bit. A little bit. Did it? Yeah. I talked about it a little bit with Aaron B. But it was more so like I was trying to position it as, listen, I don't have any hard feelings. I'm just letting you know, like, that doesn't look good when you're saying, like, this is all you care about and you're here to truly pursue a woman. It's like, that needs to be

your sole focus. And to come home and read that was very disappointing. And it made me look at him differently, which I hate it because I feel like I left off on a very great place with him. And I have so much respect for him. So, yes, we talked about it very briefly. I think it was him. And then Eliza. Yeah, I talked about it a little bit with her. But I don't think the whole conversation made airs, of course, context for audience members. They were like, why, it's charity trying to break them up. I'm like, listen, I'm just trying to give everyone peace and blessings. Like, that's my only job here.

Genuinely, but I feel like more men than not go in with a plan after. Because even not only did that happen to me, but it happened to who Gabby was engaged to with Eric. He had left a woman and set her flowers and been like, when I come back, we're going to be together. And then he had to talk to her. Wait, I don't think I knew that. Yeah, it was pretty, there was so much tea happening at the end of our season that I feel

like it kind of got brushed under the rug. Yeah. But there was a lot coming out. And I think this is something that is so common, again, with the men, but should we just come to expect it at this point? Should it even be a conversation that someone's at home? You know, and it's, again, it's a 50-50 thing because I'm like, like, yeah, I can see why they do that because, again, nothing is guaranteed. You don't know how

far you're going to go in this journey. But I do think, like, if your heart is in the right place, it shouldn't matter. Like, it shouldn't matter if I'm going to stay for two weeks or if I'm going all the way to the end. It's like, I'm fully focused on hopefully finding what could be my person. So I'm going to like eliminate any distractions beforehand. I'm going to be in the right, you know, heart posture before moving in, doing all this. And it's like, I just don't get like, like guys can't be by themselves. Like it's okay. Like you can come back.

You can also maybe spin the block when you're done. Like you don't need to have her just like dangling over here. I think that's a little insane. Absolutely. And speaking of spin the block. Like crazy. What is your take on spin the block? Rachel said that there might have been someone in Batonation that she had maybe had feelings

for now they are no longer together. but she would maybe in the future consider it. What's your thoughts on right person wrong time or spinning the block? Oh, my God. I was like the old me, I spun a block. I loved skirting on the block, truly. But now I'm just like, I do believe in like wrong person, wrong time, but also I'm the type of person that is like, if everything else makes sense and there's a couple things that

you just need to like work out or figure out, then that's up to the two parties involved to figure it out and like not give up or just be like, okay, like this isn't in the cards for us. I just, I feel like that's sometimes an easy way out in dating. But I can personally say, like I feel like maybe Rachel's like leaving that open because, you know, like there was so much love in that friendship and there was a lot like going on. but I don't do I think that she needs to put all of her eggs in one basket with this person? Absolutely not and not in about like I love them both. But I think if it was supposed to happen, it would have been happened.

You know what I mean? And that's like with the most love and respect me saying that. I just am not a fan. I'm like it, we did it. It didn't work out. Okay, cool, you know. People always say that. And I don't know if I necessarily agree with if.

Do you? I think that there is a world where. you can find each other at a right time. And I think just because it hasn't happened or it didn't happen exactly when you thought it would doesn't mean that it shouldn't because if we are thinking about the same person, for Rachel, I feel like that is such a solid match.

And could it be the right person if he were maybe in a different place? Or what's your take? I mean, yeah, I'm like maybe. we would never know. I think, yeah, on paper, compatibility, it makes sense. But I'm like, clearly there's a reason. And again, like what you're saying is like maybe he's focused on something else or whatever, whatever the problem was that did not make this happen. I just, I don't know, I'm just not, I'm not in the ministry anymore of just sitting around, waiting around. Like, and that's my thing.

And it's like, obviously she doesn't have to do that. She could go date someone and then maybe their paths cross later in life, I don't know. But like I said, from what I know, I just feel like if it was to happen, because again, everything did make sense, but certain things didn't make sense. So like there's a reason why maybe someone just didn't want it as much. I don't know. You know I love to spend the block. If I do one thing, it's get back together with an X.

So I think that's why I'm just such a romantic. I do. It could happen. I would love to see both of them in paradise again selfishly and to just see in that environment if there could be a possibility. It would be great TV, I tell you that, because like I said, it's going to go one way or the other. Like they either will get to the beach and it's like, oh, okay, wait, we actually do, like, we should try this out or it's like they can't stand to see each other or like she can't

stand to see him. So like it could be a mess or it could be a glorious victory. And we will wait to find out. We will wait to find out. Love when you say the mature thing, and I always say the thing that you shouldn't do. It's just my favorite thing about us. I really am so torn because I was like you. And listen, I literally used to do that so much.

Like in my single live, I'm like, okay, well, I'm bored today. Let's go. You know, let's go. And it's, I don't want to say it's toxic, but it's just like there was an element to that where it's like, okay, you're just having fun. You're living life. And I fully support that. But I'm just, again, now.

I'm in a place where I'm like peace. Nothing's coming from this. Like besides me like carrying my boredom for like a couple of hours, it's like, no, I have to look at the bigger picture for myself. And that's why I'm like, that's the mature take on it. But no, I support both sides. You know me. I'm like, you want to spin a block?

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