Bachelor Happy Hour - Real Talk with Trista Sutter | Golden Hour

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are getting real with Bachelor Nation legend Trista Sutter! Trista is here to talk about all things aging, kids, marriage, and more with our Golden ladies. Trista opens up about why she has been so vocal about talking about menopause, as well as how she and Ryan would react if one of their kids wanted to go on the show. Plus, Trista reveals the big secret behind what Ryan said to her at the Golden Wedding! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Here we are again. Thank you so much for joining us. And we are so excited to be here, right, Kathy? Oh, we are so excited. And if you have not done it yet, I don't know where you've been or what you're doing. But now is the time to follow our.

podcast because you don't want to miss even one episode. All you have to do is search for Bachelor Happy Hour in the podcast app and hit the follow button. And today we have a very special guest, our OG Bachelorette, Trista Sutter. Hi, Trista. Welcome to the podcast. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having me. So we are so excited to have you. Not only you are the most senior and lovely of all the bacheloretts. Well, first of all, I have to address the fact that you called me the most senior. I don't know if that's true. The most senior?

Well, not age, just like she was one of the first. Ouch, Kathy. No, no, no. Can we redo that? No, I love it. I think it's hysterical. I would say, yes, I would say I am definitely, when you talk about successful relationships, at least. Maybe that's

where I come in as the most senior. And I have been called the fairy godmother, so you kind of are. I don't know if that's because I'm always older than everybody who's in the room related to Bachelor Nation, but. Not anymore, sister.

We got that. I'm just saying when I first started watching The Bachelor or you stand out. Like, I loved watching your season. I loved watching your love story. And of course, back then, didn't know you. So, you know, to have gotten to know you a little bit and, and meet your husband and talk about your family and your kids and then seeing you at the wedding. I don't know, it was just

like a closed circle for me. I just, I love that. Thank you. I remember you coming into the mansion while we were doing the Golden. And it was like so exciting. Do you remember Leslie tackling my God? Leslie was all over you. She knew everything about you. She had your stats down. Yeah, that was super fun I love coming to the mansion That was That was so much fun I mean the mansion

I mean the mansion wasn't where I filmed the show But I've been there a couple times It's always fun to see it And then of course to meet all of you Did we look like Dair in the headlights Tristan did we look like Daring the headlights

No you guys looked super comfortable And you know Like you were having the time of your lives So it was great to see in person I loved that time. I wish they had showed more of our conversation just because it was a really good conversation. It wasn't good.

You know, but pickleball was super fun afterwards. And then I do have a question. I have a question going back to the wedding. I know on the TV when they show this, your husband is whispering something in your ear during the ceremony. Could you tell us what he was saying? Yeah, that's a good story. so after the wedding i'll i'll kind of preface all of this so after the wedding i am on

instagram and someone i think sent me a link or something like that to um maybe a reddick a reddit or someone had commented on something and they said uh something about ryan and it was definitely derogatory like they were talking negatively about my husband and i am i'm a mom I'm a bear, a wife bear, whatever you want to call me. So I kind of pounced into action and looked into it. And what he was saying was he turned over or he whispered in my ear after, gosh, I'm having to remember what this was, after Gary said, I am the luckiest man on Earth or on the planet or something like that. Ryan turned to me and he said the second luckiest. Oh my God. I knew it was

special. Yes. All you farts out there. Keep it to yourself. Oh, I hate that expression. That is so sweet. But I want to ask you, Trista, you, because you are one of the first and, you know, you were dating and now you have, how many children do you have? What are their ages? met them. Max, Max and Blakesley. Max is 16 and Blakesley is turning 15 tomorrow. Oh, happy birthday. Okay, so 16 and 15, right? So obviously life, and we'll get into that a little bit later on the raging hormones. Yeah. So my question is, what, now that you're happily married, you're raised, you're raising a family. What, what dating advice, because there's so many young ladies, you know, going through this process. What is one piece of dating advice you would have given

or would give to your younger self? What would you tell yourself? That's a good question. And actually, it's a question I'd love to like share with my daughter after this because I really truly wish I could go. Now, you know, it's funny because I don't wish I could go back because I am where I am because of all the things that happened to me, right? So I wouldn't change anything in that respect, but I wish I would have known to believe more in me and invest more in me and not just give in to a guy because he was a guy that I wanted to date, you know, like actually- Be true to yourself. Be true to yourself. Yeah, be true. Well, be true to myself and never don't really, don't settle. You know, I feel like I just,

wanted to date the boys that I was dating because it was fun, they were cute, you know, whatever, I could go to dances with them or whatever. And, and I feel like I was just kind of settling into a relationship because that's what I thought I needed. But it's okay to be alone. It's okay to like cultivate your personality and your self-worth before you are in a relationship. You know, this, actually, that question was our topic of the day. Susan, I like to pick a topic to talk about every day. But this particular question, we talked about it. This should be like the topic of the lifetime. Because all people face this, whether you're a woman or a man, we all face this issue. And it's just a resounding, unanimous thing that we wish that we didn't settle.

we wish we're about having confidence in yourself too and i think a lot of that comes with maturity yes as you grow older and but you were quite young when you met him how were you been married for how many years now so what is this i was actually one of the older people of the cast i was i turned 30 on the bachelorette i was i think 28 when i did the bachelor and turned 30 like i celebrated my birthday. People brought me, like some of the guys brought me gifts, which was kind of fun. Did you wear your birthday suit? By any chance?

Did you have a cupcake where you got to lick the icing on? No. Our minds were the same place. No, you guys probably don't remember this or, and you probably wouldn't have been paying attention. But when my show came out, it was actually really controversial. And

I got called every name in the book, like, oh, she's going to look like a slut and she's going to be a hoe. And, you know, because she's one girl and 25 guys. They were just jealous, Trista. They were just jealous. Yeah, right? So I think because of that, I really held back in terms of, like, physicality.

Like, there was one guy named Jamie Blythe who asked me if he could have a kiss one night. And I was like, maybe just on the cheek. Like, I literally told him, maybe on the cheek. Oh, God. I was not like. Not like they do that. That's not his idea of a fantasy. Oh, everyone kisses the first night.

Batting it out. It's crazy. So anyway, I feel like I was just definitely very reserved in terms of that because I was very aware of the public perception, you know. And also my family was watching and all of that. So, but so I was, I was 30. I turned 30 on the show. We got married when I was 31 and we've been married for 20 years. I know.

So what's the secret of staying? so happy and and in love share it oh oh gosh i wish i knew no it just works it can be it can be a little bit of luck i think there's definitely luck you know i i'm a religious person and i feel like there's a plan for me and him and i i mean that's the only way i can really describe it is he was never meant to be on that show he is not the kind of person that you would think would be on the show is very interverted um and you know not social doesn't like cameras like none of the media stuff hates it and so the fact that he was on the show i just feel like it was it took a lot it was meant to be yeah yeah obviously it is yeah right so so you you know you've been happily

married you're raising these kids but susan and i love that you've been so open about going through menopause, you're joining our club. Why, honestly, in a society where, you know, we have been taught, not talk about those things, why has it been so important for you to share this journey? Because I feel like I have a voice and it's something that I know all of us are, you know, all women are gonna go through

if you get it to be our ages, luckily, you know? So I don't want people to feel alone because it is not something that people talk about. And if I can talk about, it more and lessen the stigma of all that we go through. Why not? You know, I'm not embarrassed by it. Not at all.

It's something that all of us go through. And I would love to be able to vent to people and be like, oh, can you believe we have to deal with this, that and the other thing, you know? Like, it stops. The hot glasses for 10 years. My biggest gripe about menopause is this inner tube around my center. Like, I don't know where that's. comes from. I can't tell you. Spaghetti. No. No, no, no. Even if I starved six days a week, it would

still be. The menopause changes your body. You're so right. And your metabolism, like, you can't create the muscle that you used to be able to, no matter how hard you work out. I mean, I know people who do, like, are really muscular, but I feel like a big part of that is genes. You know, you've got the genetics for it. The worst part about it for me is I cannot sleep. Oh, that's amazing. Listen, I will tell you, that doesn't get better. Susan and I talk about a lot because she's always hot.

I'm always cold. I did not go. I went through menopause, but I didn't have any of these things. I didn't have hot flashes. Really? I mean, honestly, I slept really well. Sleep changed for me when my husband passed away. that's when that's when it became difficult for me.

But I understand all these issues and we're all in it, but they don't necessarily go away. There's also bioidentical hormones, and that's what I'm on. And it helps you think a little clearer, sleep a lot better. The night sweats aren't there. And it brings you to your libido. Oh, geez. Which I think really dies and you dry up, you know, after menopause. it's hard in a relationship, like, to keep your marriage going, you've got to keep it spicy.

I mean, you have the same partner for all these years. You want to make it good. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Get old sucks. I hate it. What? Say it again.

Getting old sucks. Tushay, my friend. Hey, Krista, it's better than the alternative. This is true. It's better than the alternative. It's true. You're right. I never envision being with a woman.

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Hello, puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land?

Jeopardy-truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in... I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy-truthers? Are there people who say that it was rigged? Yeah, ever since I was first on,

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How are things changed for you as you get older? Oh. She doesn't look older. You know, I'm realizing the older I get and the closer my kids are to leaving the house, that my identity has been really settled in them. and my family, and I'm really worried about who I am and what I'm going to do after they're gone. Wow. You have time to start practicing.

Trista, I think it's, for me anyway, it's a real opportunity for you and Ryan to sort of rediscover who you are and there's going to be a freedom. Yes, it's, let me tell you, when my last child went off to college, I'm not kidding. sat couldn't get out of bed for two days and cried it's real i'm going to be comatose it's a whole different but reinvent you redo you celebrate you and your accomplishments and and just do you yeah and enter the best chapter but they're always need you trust me trista they're always going to need you they're always be there my youngest child is uh 30 she's turning 37 And trust me, she still needs me.

She just had her first baby. Your kids never leave. They're always going to want you. It just looks a little different as they get older. Yeah, totally. So I have a question for you. Yeah. If some fans called you and told you one of your kids to go on the bachelor or the

bachelorette one day, would you support them? Would you encourage her? You know, I've been asked this question in the past a lot, and it's always the same. I would be such a freaking hypocrite if I didn't. I know, right? How could you not say? Of course I would. Within reason, I feel like, unless it's dangerous or, you know, I feel like it's going to ruin their life for some reason, then I'm going to support whatever they choose to do, right?

Did they watch your show when you guys met? They haven't. No, no. And honestly, I don't know that they. will. There's no, like, reason why. It's just, I don't think, you know, they'd have any. Right. The thing about kids, Trista, they're like butterflies, you know, you, you, you open, you have them cupped in your hand for so many years. And then when they get to be a certain age, you have to open your hand and let them fly. But, but they'll come back. They will come

back. They will. They will. Is there anything that you would say to your kids? kids getting ready to go out into the dating world. Any? Yeah, actually. So my son met his girlfriend on the first day of school this year. And they've been dating ever since. I think they celebrated a six-month anniversary. How cute.

And it's really sweet, actually. They have been learning all about communication. I'm actually really proud of them. They talk through difficulties, you know, They don't walk away. They learn how to be thoughtful and, like, write each other notes or make each other like handmade gifts or, you know, doing things that maybe aren't your first choice of activity, you know, putting each other first.

And so I think actually Max is doing a really great job of dating on his own. I feel like I give him advice every so often. is, you know, like at one point in time, one of his friends, you know, said something about his girlfriend, like, maybe she shouldn't be doing that or whatever. I don't know. I can't remember what it was. And I was like, you know what? Definitely listen to your friends, right? They have, hopefully they have your best interest at heart. But take that with a grain of salt because you know your relationship better than anyone else. So you do you. When you're happy with your girl, or happy with your boyfriend and and things are going great then you know what take things that

people say in one ear and out the other um and just do you where do you think that communication skill came from did he watch you are you open communicators oh yeah in your family with your husband so is that how you kept that's got to be how you've kept them around it they've got to be watching how you i mean i'm guessing they have to be watching yeah how you and ryan because you know kids model what they see what we tell them i've learned that one children it is funny that's funny because um my son just gave his girlfriend a gift and it was like these notes that he wrote for her and i was talking to a romantic he is um i was talking to a friend and told her about it and she said oh he's like a little mini ryan because you know my ryan used to write me

notes on or poems on on the bachelorette and then I told Ryan, and Ryan was like, actually, no, he's like you. So every morning that Ryan goes to work, I write him a little note, like this one. I love it. Morgan, like in German. So I'll do just little notes. And actually, they were like, no, Ryan said, no, I think that he learned it from all your cute little notes that you write me every morning. So, yes, we're open.

Well, you are proving, you are proving the point. A little bit of both. I love it. You are proving the point. the kids do what they see not what we tell them okay so we are a few years older than you just a few not many not many at all but do you have any questions for us i you you have such a great marriage we could probably take a lesson out of your book since we're both single and looking and not surviving oh very well but no i would love to hear how how long were both of you married

i was married just short of 46 years so 20 plus years yeah i was was married at 20, quite a long time. Yeah. And I learned a lot about myself. That's amazing. My question is I've heard recently like a couple people, I think someone, oh, like Tori and Dean just got divorced after 18 years. And then I heard someone else and a couple of my friends who've had long marriages. How do you keep, especially when the kids move away?

Like, what is your best advice for staying connected through those years and for, you know, decades to come, hopefully? For me, it's not to hold things in that I'm not liking. Like, that was my mistake in my marriage. Like, I ended up resenting because I didn't deal with it and communicate properly. Not that I knew whether or not it would change whatever was happening, but that was, a big part of me. Yeah. I think for me, Trista, I, um, when my kids left, you know, how do we keep our marriage going? We took ballroom dancing, believe it or not. We took ballroom dancing lessons. We got a two-man kayak and we started kayaking on the lake in Austin. My husband took up cooking

in a very serious way. So we sort of started new things. We also both did things on our own. I think if the mistake I made in my marriage, I didn't compromise enough. You know, I talk with Susan, I talk all the time about- Cat this way or the highway. Well, that's what I, you know, we talk about compromise and communication. Yeah. I was a great communicator, but I was not a great compromiser. And so, you know, that made for issues.

I think anyone who thinks people always say to me, oh, you were married 46 years, it must have been, you know, a walk in the park. No, it's never a way. No marriage is a walk in the park. It just takes a lot of a love and devotion, commitment to working things out. And, you know, that's my recipe for a good marriage. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.

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one of those ones to kind of add on to what you're saying from my perspective is forgiveness and i've always said this and it's not like the big flagrant you know um problems that might happen in some relationships because sometimes you just can't get over those it's the little everyday things like you know you say something when you're frustrated or you're going through menopause or um you know like you're going through lion disease which ryan has and i think he gets frustrated you know when he's not feeling well and so i think those little wait a minute he has lion's disease from a tick from a tick yeah assuming so yeah i think he got it years and years and years ago um we fought for a long time to figure out what was going on i think

it took us two years and he's going through treatment um and he's probably 80% better but good good but you're right forgiveness you know just the little tiny things the little moments where you say something snarky or whatever or did it really matter that ryan left his socks on the ground it's It's not what they do or we do. It's the delivery sometimes that really gets your, yeah. Yeah. Wow. I know.

All right. Well, with all that being said, can we have some game time with Trista? Yay, I love games. This is about a relationship. Would you rather? Okay. Okay. Kathy, you want to read the first one?

Okay. Trista, would you rather be surprised with flowers or have Ryan make you a home-cooked meal? Well, I don't know if I can answer this because he makes me meals all the time. Oh, no wonder you're keeping him. My husband did all the cooking, too, Trista. We were lucky. We are lucky.

So I would much rather, actually, he did this the other day. It was on Valentine's Day, I was like, you know, it's just, it's Valentine's Day. Like, I'd much rather get flowers out of nowhere. And he brought me flowers like two weeks ago. Yeah. I like that better too. And you save a whole lot of money. Yeah, right.

Let me just tell you, flowers go crazy. They up the price. Valentine's Day, weddings and funeral. Stay away from those three. Totally. At all costs. Okay. Let your partner choose every movie you watch together or pick every restaurant.

Would you rather hand it? him do all those things. No, would you rather... He's either going to pick all the movies or the restaurants. Yeah, he's either going to pick all the movies or he's going to pick every restaurant. Which would you rather? Probably the restaurants because I'm very particular about my movies. He gets so frustrated because we'll be sitting on the couch and I'm like going through all

the movies, like click, do the trailer. Okay, next one. Let's watch another trailer. 45 minutes later, we still don't have a movie. Ryan St. Trista, we just watched a movie. We walked 18 of them. But with that all being said, I like a man that doesn't say, well, whatever you want to do, whatever you want to, where do you want to go?

Once in a while, pick something, surprise us. Hey, babe, by the way, we have reservations for 815 on Saturday night at. We'll be like, wow. So I thought you were going to be, I thought you was going to be logically here. Like, exactly what you just said, Trista, when you're picking out a movie, you know it's pretty and you're stuck with it like three hours i hate this movie you're you're stuck right but at a restaurant you can have sushi or you can have a hamburger i mean there's always something you can eat right yeah exactly totally i'm going with the restaurant the restaurant

he usually falls asleep during movies so yeah that happens yeah i'd rather pick the movies so that i can actually be interested in whatever we're watching and i can usually find something on a menu all right trista i'm going to give you one now that's going to slay you Would you rather walk in on your kids having sex or have them walk in on you? Oh, my gosh. Come on. You've got to be in the conversation. Do you have to choose one?

I don't think I can. I mean, I would definitely. I can't. I can't even think about it. I told you what's going to get her. I know. If I had to choose, I would rather walk in on them than me. I don't know.

I don't, I can't see that. Trista, I'm going to make you feel better. I'm going to make you feel better. Your kids are 16 and almost 15. Happy birthday almost, right? That's not happening yet. You've got a few years yet, hopefully before you have to worry about that. I hope so.

I hope so. I mean, I could have asked you what they're going to name their kids. I mean, it was just, you know. No, no. I don't know that. I mean, my daughter probably has a plan for what she wants to name kids in the future, but no, she doesn't have a boyfriend yet, so I'll go. Give her time, give her time.

Okay, so how about spend a romantic day at the spa or take an adventurous road trip? Oh, I love both. Me too. So if it was like something I was doing with Ryan, then definitely an adventurous road trip. If it was like a me day or a girlfriend day, then the day at the spa. It's a romantic day at the spa. So I don't think we're taking your girlfriends. Just saying it's romantic.

Then an adventurous road trip. But we love road-tripping. We actually used to have an air stream and camping. Yes, for sure. So any kind of road trip, it's like some of my favorite, favorite family memories were us camping, you know, all over. And Trista, can I just say, Susan, we were talking about this earlier too. Your kids are not going to remember the things.

They're going to remember those epic trips. They're going to say, remember when, you know, my kids we took a road trip actually to Colorado where you live and we took the kids on a bike trip and we my kids still remember to this day because we bike down this really steep hill and I'm a mama bear like you and I'm screaming these young kids aren't going to be able to get back up the hill when we got to the bottom of the hill I was fit to be tied I looked at my husband and said what were you thinking how are we going to get these kids back up the hill my husband said what are you talking about Kathy it's all It's all downhill.

He said it's all down hill. And I looked behind me. My kids, and we all started laughing. To this day, my kids remember that, that trip. So adventurous road trips are good. Yeah, they're good. Would you rather read your partner's mind or have them be able to read yours? Last question.

Leave his mind for sure. Ah, because you can't figure him out. He doesn't tell everything. No, I mean, like I said, he's very introverted and, you know, doesn't always. verbally express himself. So 100%. I think I would much rather read his mind because I feel like I'm pretty good at expressing myself. So I know I've met Ryan a few times and he is introverted and my husband was very introverted. Is that and you're you're much more outgoing. Is that difficult for you in your marriage? No, I feel like, you know, they always say opposites attract

and introverts like extroverts yes yeah i feel like it's no it's it's not difficult except for like if we're at a function you know and he feels like he's being like pressured in a way to yeah to talk when he just doesn't have the energy for it um but on the flip side of that i think we balance each other out so in those moments when he's not up for that kind of thing like a social a social event then I can do most of the talking same with like media when you when you hear us or see us doing interviews mostly I'm talking and not because I'm any better at it he is way better at speaking and being eloquent and all of that but he just it's not his thing you know yeah I could see that yeah I was just curious because that was in my marriage uh my husband actually relied on me

cocktail parties because he, it was miserable for him. And I wondered if Ryan felt the same. Off the subject, real quick, I don't remember people's names sometimes. I'll never forget your face. And when my husband and I, we would go back to each other. Who is that again? I know, I know, or what's her name? Do you guys have ones better than the other in your family?

Oh, he's way better than me. See? Oh, really? Who are we, Trista? She's thinking. She's thinking. Before, when my husband, I would go to cocktail parties literally on the way over, if it was his office, he would say, Kathy, it's this person, this person.

I love him. And then if it was a group of my friends, he would say, now tell me who they all are, who's who goes with who. You know, he was very, I mean, that's just, that's just the way it goes. It's so fun. Real quick before we go. Just in a couple words, the finale at Joey's season. all right so good i have watched every single season okay actually maybe not one i won't mention which one of it is um okay we won't know i it's not yours but um i watch i have watched every season

and this is one of my all-time favorites i think it's such a trust why hard act to follow i just adore him I think that he is so genuine and so kind and so vulnerable. And you could tell that he really truly, like, cared. He reminds me a lot of Ryan. And I had the best time with him at the wedding, you know, whenever we talked. But he is just, he is, and he and Kelsey are just magic. Perfect. They are magic.

I'm so happy to them. Do you think they'll get married? What? Do you think they'll get married? I do. 100%. I do. I think that they will get married.

And then the whole Daisy Kelsey thing, like, oh my goodness. I was just in love with Daisy and how she handled herself at the end. and handled that situation and was like lifting Kelsey up talking about her mom before she went out and I think it was beautiful absolutely beautiful and the women you know the criticism occasionally about Bachelor is there's just too much feuding among the women you know I loved seeing women support women I loved it it's such a great lesson it's something I would want my young daughter to watch just even that final episode this is how you do it. We actually, my daughter and I watched it together. So she, as you know,

my daughter was there at the wedding with me. Yeah. Yeah. And we, we talked to Joey for quite a bit, quite a while. He had some great advice for her. I don't ask me what it is. Because I know. We won't. We won't. I have horrible memory. But, um, she is super invested in him. And so she was like, mom, can we finally like watch The Bachelor together? So we made it a point. We watched every Monday or Tuesday or whenever we had time. And it was total bonding. And honestly, you're right. I think it was such a great example of what it should be.

That is a great place to leave this. Trista, I cannot tell you how much we've enjoyed having you visit with us today. Thank you so much. And this does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you really, Trista, for joining us. We really love chatting with you. And we'd like to do it more often. Thank all of you for, thank you.

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