Bachelor Happy Hour - Reality TV and the Realness of Parenting with Kevin & Astrid!

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we have beloved Bachelor Nation couple Kevin and Astrid joining us! We’re diving right into all their updates, and we kick it off by chatting about their two k...ids. Kevin opens up about their recent CPR scare with one of their children, including how sharing their story helped save a fan’s little one! They also get into their favorite lighthearted moments with their kids — they’re learning the hard way what happens when you curse around them! We also discuss Kevin’s extensive reality TV experience, including his time on “The Traitors Canada.” Plus, we get their thoughts on this upcoming season of “Paradise” and what they hope to see. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:45 Hey everyone, welcome back to Betcher Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with two lovely guests, Astrid and Cabin. Hi, guys. Hey, guys. Good to see you guys. Welcome, welcome. Before we get into anything, I do want to just throw this out there.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Seven game sevens in a row seven times, seven losses that Toronto Maple Leaves. How do you feel about that? It's just a lifestyle at this point. It's horrible. Well, actually, Astrid, you lived in Florida for a while. So was there like, were you somewhat cheering for Florida or no? So I had only been to like one or two hockey games before I ever met Kevin. So I instantly became a Leafs fan and now I'm seven years into just being disappointed year after year and realizing this is just the way my kids are going to grow up.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Have you guys been together for seven years? Yeah, seven years. It would have been 2018, right, Joe? It was the paradise first season. Yeah, it was 2018. Damn, doesn't feel like a coincidence that ever since you guys have been together, the Leafs are losing in Game 7. So I thought it was going to be a fun podcast. I didn't know we were going deep and like right away.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Right off the hop here. It's hard right. being a least fan. It is like game off. Astrid knows game off. Remote slammed me, taking the dogs out halfway through the second period. Didn't even turn it back on again.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I just know it too well. Yeah. Brutal. So yes, you guys, we'll get into it, but you guys, you met on Bachelor in Paradise.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Astrid, you were on Nick Fial's season. Kevin, you were on the first Bachelorette season of Canada. Yeah, yeah. And then I did the Bachelor Winter Games. That's when I went over to the ABC side.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah, yeah. Let's, we'll get into that, too. But before we do, what's new at you guys? Anything? We're just in like the thick of it with kids stuff, I feel like. We are just trying to. 203. So August 3 and a half and Nash is a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And it's just chaos. So you're just like in the trenches. This is like every day's a war. You like start with like a pep talk at the start of the day. And at the end of the day it's like a glass of wine. And you're like, all right, that was a good day or a bad day. Let's start again tomorrow. anybody who says parents
Starting point is 00:04:57 I think it's the hardest thing I've ever experienced and I've done a lot I think a stay-at-home mom like I worked 24 hours yesterday when she's at home with the two I'm like I can't believe that people undersell this and say it's oh motherhood is so great
Starting point is 00:05:10 it is the hardest job no more sugar-coding it is incredible if you're a good mother is the best job ever okay well why have two why not I heard I heard like one
Starting point is 00:05:23 from like my My friends that have kids, I heard like one's easy. Like, well, easier. Because you're two against one. And then when you get, when you have two, it's just like, that's it. Game over. Like, well, you're, now it's just one on one, right? When we just had Augie, it was one of us could take a break while the other person took the kid out.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Once you add the second to the mix. Now he's with Augie all the time because Nash is such a Velcro baby too. He's like, stuff on me. You're just, you're just becoming slowly outnumbered. And the energy that they have, you just don't have in the 30s and 14. anymore. And they just don't stop. So, you know, we don't have much going on other than just surviving. I think having the second is key, though, like we're starting to get into the point now where they play together. And I think if we just had one, it would always be one of us has to be
Starting point is 00:06:09 like on. But right now they're starting to get to the age where we'll kind of sit back and realize, okay, now they're chatting with each other. They're playing with toys. And once like the brotherhood thing starts where you can just throw them in the backyard with some baseball or football or something, like that's, that's what we do. Yeah. Friends are a little more independent. and like can interact with each other. Yeah. Yeah. Once they can play together and we can just throw them out back and kind of watch them and
Starting point is 00:06:31 then we're good. Well, our producer on this podcast has a beautiful little boy and she is now currently expecting her second. What advice would you give to her or any parents out there that are about to have their second child? Soak up all that you can with your first child. Like as the mom, when this newborn comes, you're just all of that. sudden just back to nursing or bottles and nighttime wakings and all the chaos and you kind
Starting point is 00:07:00 of just like don't get to see your first kid bit in the beginning so i would say spend that quality time together and also just remember that everything is temporary like that's what we keep trying to remind ourselves up is like as soon as you get really good at one phase then it switches again so the same goes when everything is kind of going to shit it's only going to last so long it's going to come back to the good and it just goes up and down. And we try to remember what people always say is like you're going to look back one day and realize it was actually like beautiful in the moment because some days like the house is just a bombshell.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We're just like we're stressed. There's like we're ordering takeout because there's no time to cook and one kid's sick. One kid we're trying to keep away because we wanted him to get sick. And then at the end of the day you're like a couple years we'll go by and all of a sudden just be in school and playing sports and we'll be like that was actually chaos. But it was kind of cool that we did. Yeah. Is this currently?
Starting point is 00:07:50 Do you think the hardest season of life that you've been in? No, as soon as Nash started moving As soon as our youngest started moving Like when he's a baby It's just like put him in the bassinet Figure out what Augie's problem is But once Nash can start really moving around and running And now it's just full chaos
Starting point is 00:08:06 From 6 a.m. until 7 p.m. And you guys just You're scaring anyone who doesn't have kids right now No, but this is the reality You guys also just had a really scary incident That happened, correct? Yeah, so that's how they made everything. Yeah, so our youngest Nash is he's got something going on with him and we're still, like we have an appointment coming up at sick kids in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:08:29 We're just trying to figure out something's going on with him and we're not sure what it is. There's been a couple of times where me as a first responder, it's like one thing to go to a call, but we've called 911 now three times for him. And he was just his first ambulance ride. He likes to hold his breath. He has a problem with mucus where he chokes on his own mucus a lot when he gets worked up. So we're just trying to figure out through specialists on what the course of action and if it's just a temporary thing at his age or if it's something that we can take care of. But I did make a post that we talked about a little bit earlier that anybody who was around a kid, whether it's a grandparent and aunts and uncle a babysit or anything, take the weekend course of CPR for kids because last week when Nash, Ashton was in the bath with the two boys, and she yelled, screamed my name. I ran upstairs and he was choking.
Starting point is 00:09:19 and he was bright blue from like the nipples up and completely limp and like lifeless and when you think of your own kid with the tongue out and the eyes rolled back and he's like and he's soaking wet from the tub so he was slipping in my arms but he was just blue and completely non-responsive um i saw he wasn't breathing so i had to give him some some back blows and some chest impressions which can be pretty traumatizing as a dad and also as a kid um but luckily i knew what i was doing and i was like in tears panicked so I can only imagine what someone that has never had to like unfortunately I've done CPR on many kits before but it's never been so personal so I'm just encouraging everyone I come across to just learn it because you'd be surprised how much oh yeah this is what I should be doing
Starting point is 00:10:01 rather than just freezing and staring because without knowing what to do it can really it can really go go so every second and you're dealing with something like that yeah every second really matters so and my biggest piece of advice for anyone is just remember it's nothing like TV it's not like Baywatch where they're just kind of doing this and everyone wakes up, you have to be really rough and really aggressive with how you're doing it because they're resilient, kids are resilient, and they want that to come out if they're choking. You just have to really force to get it out.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So I encourage anyone listening that's around small kids to get certified in CPR. Oh, that's really scary and a very important information. Like, I would never, ever have thought of doing that. I have my CPRC, like. Oh, you do? Yeah, I have like all my certifications because I was like a swim teacher for couple years, and you have to have all of that. But I've seen just like people I follow on TikTok and stuff, I always thought this was a good idea, like pregnant people that have gotten
Starting point is 00:10:55 their families together and been like, okay, we're just going to, you know, you can like have someone come into your house and like do it. Like there's so many different options depending on what works for you. Len being like everyone, you know, that wants to do it that's going to be around the kid, like come over and we're going to host it and we're all going to get certified together. Well, I had a DM from a grandmother in their 60s the other day that said, I posted it one day and it was two days later that they were at a family barbecue and a seven-month-old started choking on something she found on the ground like whether it was a piece of food or whatever and everybody froze and the grandmother was the one that without even taking CPR just listening to
Starting point is 00:11:31 my post and gave some back blows and the little piece of food came out of the baby's throat so I said in the post a lot of it's just even just watch a really good YouTube video and grab a doll or a stuff animal, you'd be surprised how much that would get you familiar with kind of what to do. And even if you've done the course and it's been a while, it's always a good idea to get kind of like brushed back up because we did it during COVID because that's when I was pregnant. And then we just kind of forgot about it. And I never actually went. I just did everything online and you realize you get so comfortable with nothing ever happens until all of a sudden something happens, right? And you want to be prepared. And then I'm sure it's different too when you're actually
Starting point is 00:12:09 in that moment and you're terrified and in shock, like being like, we're. My God, what did I learn 10 years ago? Yeah, I didn't even try to do anything myself. I just go, Kevin, let's just get a fire clutter in here. Yeah, all three times just happened. I've been at home. So, you know, we've been lucky that way because it's not putting Astrid on the spot. Like I said, she had both the boys in the tub.
Starting point is 00:12:29 So she pulled the youngest out. Augie was still in the top. So it was just a chaotic scene. But, yeah, I just encourage everyone to get brushed up, especially if you're around small kids. Yeah. Well, sick kids is a great hospital. My sister was there when she was a kid. So hopefully guys get it figured out.
Starting point is 00:12:43 always like I sometimes question like how we even how we were able to get this far like how we're talking about people giving birth in caves and like yeah exactly like it's not by anything other than we got lucky because the right amount of cave people didn't die and we just found out it all the way to this point yeah truly like we made it so much farther than we should have like how is the how is the three-month-old surviving in a cave like would people not even like really even speaking language yet like what the fuck it's so insane to me all right west west prop here from hood politics with prop podcasts you already know our get-down if you grew up in our urban areas a comfort of struggle you understand politics
Starting point is 00:13:30 much more than you giving credit for fans taking over american cities government hop-out boys hopping out the van snatching up your theo in them two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours jerry just out here mandarin all over the place, the turfs, and of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo, to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. Because in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines.
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Starting point is 00:15:18 And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.
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Starting point is 00:16:05 Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know,
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Starting point is 00:17:56 weeks ago so we did her bachelor's party in miami and had a little many of reunion with a couple girls from our season which was fun and we realized next year it's going to be 10 years since we filmed the show so it's almost a decade of having known these girls now which is insane because in some ways I don't know if you guys were insane I forget we met on TV like I know it's a thing but like I don't think of it that way
Starting point is 00:18:20 but so we got you guys email we never oh we got so like in some ways it feels like yesterday and then in other ways you forget that you ever kind of did it
Starting point is 00:18:31 so getting together with everyone was kind of nice to realize wow nine years later and we're still good enough friends to kind of get together for this type of stuff who was there specifically um it was Alexis obviously and then rachel and jasmine and myself i think that was it from and you guys
Starting point is 00:18:48 were all on next season together we were all in next season yeah okay nice are you still close with christina weren't you guys really close yeah i still talk to christina and whitney i don't talk to them as much anymore it's everyone just kind of goes to such different like phases of life right so i still talk to Alexis and rachel pretty much every single week um and then everyone else it's just like social media you kind of keep up with enough but they were at the wedding so all the big events we always try to get together nice nice kevin you did um traders in canada yeah what yeah yeah really cool yeah it's really good it was like a fun fun show like it was a lot of fun they reached out um kind of last minute and said they film it in montreal and like this huge mansion and actually
Starting point is 00:19:35 the host of the canadian one is the best host of all the franchises really she's like French Canadian. She's like, she plays the part perfect, and you can't ever see her out of character. Like, every time we saw her even off camera, she's fully done up, like, ready to go full character. So it was really cool. Exact same premise as the American one.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I ended up, I got sent home at the last round table. Oh, you did good. And I, my problem was I made a final two with two people. And one of them I was serious about, and I just didn't reiterate enough with her that she was my
Starting point is 00:20:10 final two and if she would have not written my name down we had like the ending right to the end to the two of us and like it sucks because she's like the sweetest lady like a teacher from edmonton and we were just going to ride off and do too faithful at the end and then she wrote my name down because the girls got their hooks in her was there anyone else on it that we would know um it was like big brother canada players and more along that line yeah but i didn't really know anybody um i didn't really know anybody no i feel like netta the girl that won was like the big Canadian girl that most people would pretty nice from Big Brother, but
Starting point is 00:20:44 And there's, uh, my, Big Canada's drag race. Yeah, there was a, yeah, Melinda was from Canada's drag race. And then there was, um, my friend Lauren, she's just on the cover of sports illustrious swimsuit issue. Like this year, Laurenne. She's a model from New York. Um, really cool. Really, really cool. Um, yeah, I just thought. Yeah, she just got the cover in this year. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Wow. That's amazing. That's sick. You had a crazy, like, Kevin, you've Okay, I've been on a lot of television shows. Your reality journey is like so under the table, I feel like. Like, you know, but like you... He does never get sent home first week. He's there all 10 episodes every show he does.
Starting point is 00:21:23 It doesn't matter. Well, because you did Bachelor at Canada and you got engaged on that, didn't you? Yeah. And then you did Winter Games, Bachelor Winter Games? Yeah, Bachelor Winter Games. And you ended up dating someone from that, right? Well, it was like a game. We won the show.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Serena, Astrid's hair. well you know it's public information and then he met Astrid and then you did Bachelor in Paradise Canada you were the bartender which I think counts two seasons to that yeah and then you did traitors
Starting point is 00:21:52 you're rivaling Joe right now for the amount of reality TV you've done it's funny because they're like the least two guys that are into this at all like they both hated I feel like secretly and they're just kind of like along for the ride because we're like no come on I want to watch you on TV can you do it? Yeah they're like I guess I'll do another
Starting point is 00:22:09 one. I think the only part I like is the filming part. Like I don't really like the build up. I don't love watching it. I don't really watch much. It's like I like the game show is the coolest part. I totally get that. I love when you like put yourself into a game show and it's kind of you versus everyone, which is obviously not the Bachelor world. So
Starting point is 00:22:25 Traders was like a new. We love to do Amazing Race Canada is one I'd like to do. Oh yeah. I feel like they would definitely. Are you guys in talks at all with that? It's the same production as Traders. So we just just because our kids are so young we kind of shut it down. this year but yeah maybe next year because it's a lot of fun that would be a fun one to do yeah that would be
Starting point is 00:22:43 cool you'd see so much of canada too which would be amazing yeah yeah astrid would you do traders i feel like i don't know i love watching all the shows like he i watched traders u.s and he's like what is this here watching like oh my god it's such a good like show it's this murder mystery and he's instant like no i'm out i'm good i don't want to watch it so i feel like if i did the shows it would kind of ruin it for me. Like I feel the same way about like, housewives would be like the one thing. If I ever in love with Bravo, that would be my like, okay. House size of Toronto.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They need one. Yeah, I really. Housewives of Burlington. It's crazy how different like just like seeing you guys today and like thinking back on like our season of paradise. Yeah, you guys were all in the same one. Yeah, we're in the same season. And just like kind of even even our season of paradise.
Starting point is 00:23:35 just like it was so different like the mindset was so different because social media was like there but like people weren't really coming off the show making a living off of social media so it was really we were all just like like after after we filmed paradise it was like all right let's all go to LA and like hang out and and for a weekend and get free dinners yeah like get free dinner everyone go home um but yeah it was how do you guys think if you were to go on the show now Is there anything you would do differently or like a different approach you would take to it? Just having like done the show before and now knowing like how much it's transformed? I mean, personally, I actually think the only approach is to always just actually be yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Like I think when you try to like think ahead too much and pre-plan too much, it just doesn't ever work out. I think when it happens organically on any show, it kind of always works the best. Yeah, it seems to work less for the people that are putting on the show. I feel like it's kind of the boring people that end up succeeding in the long run. If you look at all like the successful couples, they're like not the ones that are in speedos or throwing stuff in the ocean or like, you know, do it all the stuff. I'm thinking of our season. It's all the extra BS that goes on. It's always just like the normal people that go on and treat it more like a social experiment, meet everybody.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I was trying to meet all the guys, all the girls, have a good time with everybody. And you just kind of find your way to somebody that you click with and then take it from there. I'd probably do the exact same thing if I did it again. Yeah. You guys were, you guys were locked in pretty early. I mean, I would say it's like day two or three. Yeah. Something like that, two or three.
Starting point is 00:25:11 You're just, yeah, and then people come in and you realize you've already hung out for a week with someone and someone comes in and it's almost like, you know, even at a bar talking to someone for an hour and someone else comes up to you. You're already interested in the person for the hour. So you're just brushing the other person off. I think that's the way with Paradise a lot. Once you get to know somebody, that relationship already trumps anything new that's coming in. So you just kind of brush everyone else off. Yeah. Well, I guess that's the advantage of being down there early, too, versus having to come in late.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's like people are still locked in. And as people that are like more normal and like we're locked in early also, like, I agree if you're looking to find a serious relationship, but you think like your person might be there just like chilling out and locking in as the move. But also I'm like so grateful for the other people that like are stirring shit up because it's like you let me just lay on a cot and like talk about you. I don't have to do as much. Other people's drama and then seeing how the other person takes it in actually tells you a lot about that person. Because if somebody's doing something crazy and he thinks it's funny and I think, oh, it's kind of offensive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:14 That kind of tells me a lot about his personality. And I'm like, okay, maybe we're not on the same page about things. So. Yeah. So true. But a lot of people go on the show and I'm sure it's changed in your eyes too since we were on it where now that it can be turned into more of a career if you wanted to take it like the public eye. view um if your motives are into that only when you go into it like we talked about it a little bit on our season i feel like a lot of people that put on a big show they get home they start posting
Starting point is 00:26:40 and some people are like well you're not as crazy as i thought you were that was just yeah you build like a more authentic connection with the people that are watching well that's because they can relate i think most people most people want to be able to relate with the person on tv and and like it would be like i feel silly acting that way so i'm not going to do it you know what do guys have you guys heard about the changes as far as golden people are now added to yeah i think the golden people will be there which yeah i think if there's too much cross-age dating it could get kind of weird i'm hoping it's there for like advice like i'm hoping it's like the golden people day the other people day maybe like one cross-dating would be kind of fun and then it's just like having that like
Starting point is 00:27:22 listening ear of the older people giving advice maybe i can't see this at all i can't see the crossover. Well, I'm picturing, first of all, if you're single and you're 70, what advice are you getting? Well, some of them have spouses that have passed. Yeah. Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So we can take them out of that equation. All like 70-year-old fuck boys who never settle down. That would be a different story. That's a different show. But the cross-dating might be interesting. I guess, yeah, I was my third. We were old. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. What do you think about Costa Rica now?
Starting point is 00:28:04 I'm a little sad about, you know, the cellulite compound. Yeah, I guess it's just nostalgic. And to see it every season, having like Matt and gotten engaged there, we're like, oh, like, sentimental. And what about Jorge? Does he go? Jorge, probably not. I think he's been, Jorge, I'm pretty sure has been gone for like three seasons. Yeah. Yeah, actually, he wasn't on our season.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Horacee's last season was like our season, I think. But I also think some of these shows, like especially a show is like, I guess it's been around as long as the bachelor's like a good facelift. It's like one day you'll look at, say, in 20 years from now and it's had 20 good six seasons in Costa Rica. It's still pretty cool to look back and be like, oh, do you remember that's how it used to be? Like, it's going to be that way. Every show is going to kind of change. Definitely. The same way you change hosts or change locations.
Starting point is 00:28:53 It's the same kind of thing. You just kind of move on from it. But Costa Rica is pretty cool. Costa Rica is beautiful. I'm excited for like the evolution. of the show. I'm excited to see visually what it looks like
Starting point is 00:29:04 like the new set and everything. I'm actually wondering are you is the resort just going to be back to like we can go there now and sell you later because that would be a cool trip to take just go and like book a room
Starting point is 00:29:13 and stay there for a few nights. We could. We could. It's always been an option to even like off season you could book it but you know Bachelor goes in there and decorates it
Starting point is 00:29:25 because it looks much different. Like I've looked it up online it's like I don't They also, like, take off, I think they, like, take off the doors and, like, there's a lot done to it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So it wouldn't necessarily, it would be the same location, but I don't know if it would feel necessarily the same because they, like, do so much to it.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah. That's true. It's something. Like, even if you were staying close by and you went down and used the beach for a day or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be coming back and see it again because we haven't been back. Yeah. So, yeah, you guys haven't been back as a guest or anything since, um, your season. We went to Joe. We're going Crystal's wedding.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Sorry. This is Joe. I'm Joe. Oh, yeah, I was there too. I was at that wedding. We went to Chris and Crystal's wedding, but that was it. That was the last time we went back to Soliculator, so we haven't been back. Nice.
Starting point is 00:30:14 What advice would you give to a couple, a successful couple that comes off the show for this season? As far as adjusting in the real world. And you guys both, like, we have, we've had the same, um, I, I don't want to call it an issue, but like Canadian, U.S., like, all that shit. Well, I think even when you're on the show, like, it's not a bad thing to talk about location right off the hop because how many times you hear them come off and then it's one didn't want to move or the other one couldn't do that, you know, even state to state for us, it was day three by the time I was saying to Astrid, I want to retire a firefighter, so I got to stay where I'm at. And she was like, oh, I'm from Europe. Toronto was so similar. Like, I love it. And it kind of helped us get into it. I'm sure you guys had a similar. similar combo where it wasn't like a deterrent, like, oh, she's Canadian
Starting point is 00:31:04 and oh, he's American. It was like something you have to figure out. So even state to stay, and I just say you've got to figure that out early on because you don't want to come off in the first issue, you'd be like, well, I'm not moving. Are you moving? Yeah, we definitely talk about it. You just kind of have to take that loop of faith. Like, I think if you don't just
Starting point is 00:31:19 like fully commit to the relationship right away, then you're just kind of playing pretend for a little bit. Then you get caught up in the validation of fans and this and what people are saying. I think you just have to like take a leave of faith dive in and just focus on your relationship and then see what happens and then everything else just kind of goes from there and try to have fun with the like the little bit of notoriety you get because it is kind of fun off the hub like we enjoyed
Starting point is 00:31:43 you know the people wanting to ask us questions about it we enjoyed doing interviews it was like it was kind of a fun exciting part to do together because then eventually it goes away and now now nobody really cares we're just kind of the people that met on the show so you enjoy it too like don't just brush it by kind of enjoy the time and enjoy it and make most of it yeah yeah I always say that I think that's just so important to have the conversation of like will you move will I move like we have to figure that out because if you're going to go come off the show and play the long distance game for a year it's like that's going to be really hard to make that work yeah and it's just going to make that decision harder a year later right because then you've been together and it makes it way more difficult because now you're just way to involve. Yeah. Ashtra. So you'd survive right in or break right off.
Starting point is 00:32:32 That's our advice. Astrid, did you move right away? Did you, like, how immediate was that? Pretty much. So we have filmed in June, and then our season got done airing in September, and then we moved into our condo in December of that year. So it was like less than six months after we met. I was moving.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Because your lease was up in the spring. Yeah. But I was in Chicago a lot that year. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like. moving initially because you're just like moving countries and trying to figure it all out all the chaos. Oh yeah. It's a whole thing. Congrats on your green heart. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah, I know. It's been a long road. I was thinking about you actually because I was like, damn, when I changed my name, I'll eventually have to do all the paperwork and all the things.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I know. I still haven't done all of it. Like all my passports, my, you know, residency card, all of the important stuff has changed. But it's at like random bill. and, like, random credit cards that I forgot about. I'm like, oh, yeah. I'm like, I need to chill for a second and then we'll tackle that down the line. No rush. All right, West West,
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Starting point is 00:38:02 Have you guys been keeping up at all with, like, the past few seasons of the shows or anybody you would want to see in this upcoming season of Paradise? I mean, I'm just, we haven't really, like, we just know, like, the main kind of stuff, like, gosh, you go film me in. but I kind of want to see people, like, maybe not as far back as 10 years, but it would be cool if they started sprinkling in, not just like the most current men, current women put together, but it's always cool to see the one guy or one girl from five years ago come on that maybe got out of a relationship or he's freshly single, and then they make a big splash.
Starting point is 00:38:39 So I always just think that's cooler, because then people are looking them up, like, which season is that guy on? Which, where's that product? It kind of creates more of a buzz than just the most current, you know, seven, most featured girls and guys get together. but totally well the thing with those people is they've usually met or interacted because they've all come off the show around the same time and they've had some time and they've been at a bar in l.A. and all this stuff like our season was fun because there was a lot of people like joe and tia and becca that were like from the past that were coming back and i feel like the fans love that too yeah yeah yeah that's always who i look forward to and i'm looking forward to the golden people too i guess because i feel like i've been watching gold Bachelorette, I haven't watched the other ones. So I actually know the golden people better than the young people.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So I'm excited. I just like seeing older people date. Like I see a topple in their 80s holding hands. I just think that's the cutest thing ever. So that's what I'll be watching for. Do you have a favorite from Golden that you want to see down there? I love them all. They're like all so.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Like the whole son. I love Wilson love. And I feel like the younger one, like it's a little bit more catty and like and I go to housewives for that. So, like, I love, I just love the wholesomeness of the, and, like, the camaraderie of the people, too, right? Like, that's, like, the part when you film the show, it's like, our bachelor's, like, okay, whatever. It's like, we were hanging out with all of the girls. Like, that's the part that was fun.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So then I also like seeing, like, all the old guys hanging out with each other. And the girls want, like, I think that part is always fun. So I think that part will be really funny seeing some of the older guys and younger people, like, having those funny moments. I think it was time to change locations because I don't know if any senior citizen, can handle cellulita. Well, Costa Rica is pretty, it's, is really hot and humid as well. It is hot, yeah, you're right, especially that time of year.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Yeah. Yeah. And stuff, I don't know. I just don't know if they could handle the beach. It was also just like a lot of stairs, a lot of like ups and downs, like bunk beds. Like that's why they changed it to accommodate for. I don't know. Actually, maybe. Maybe. I wouldn't be shocked.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Too many stairs. Well, getting up, getting up to the girls' room. Like, it was a lot of stairs. It was a lot of stairs. We were actually, like, we're, like, recapping Bachelor Pad because they just put it on Bachelor Nation's YouTube channel. Oh, nice. That shit.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Have you ever seen how fucking bat shit crazy that show was? Like, before it morphed in the Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah. Yeah. They're like competitions and stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. We just watched episode two.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And it's like they're in the Bachelor Mansion. It's just a different time of TV. Oh, rewatched. old reality TV actually is my favorite thing in general. You should watch this. You should watch it. It's on YouTube. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Oh, yeah. On television and how it was okay to be aired. Some of the stuff they're saying about each other is like genuinely so mean, so offensive. Let's change the show a bit too, right? Like now we're all just like hyper aware of what we're saying and how it comes off and how people perceive it. Like old school, like 2000. 2 to 2008. Not okay.
Starting point is 00:41:52 No, no. The one girl walked up to the, so the guy, the one guy in the show is like a, is like a fan, right? They bring some fans in the show. Yeah, like alumni cast members and then they threw in like five super fans of the show. And this girl walks up to him because she finds out that he's going to vote for her. She walks up to him. She goes, I just want to let you know, I think you're ugly. And I hate you.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I was just like, oh my God. Like, Jesus, fuck. Like, everyone's coming for everyone's, like, physical appearance, what they're wearing, their personality is, like, it's cutthroat, but, yeah. I feel like it was ahead of its time. Like, that could be on, like, a streaming service, like, a hardcore reality coming out. We're getting math back and do, like, competition stuff. See, that's the reality shows we love.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Like, if there's money involved, you can win at the end. That's what we love to watch. Yeah. So if they bring back. voucher pad, sign of it. Yeah, they should. I actually do think it was ahead of its time a little bit. Well, essentially, I mean, that's kind of, Kevin, isn't, wasn't that kind of similar to how winter grade was, could you win money in winter games? Was there any? Yeah, winter games was premised on like the Olympics were going on and, you know, the ratings for ABC are so massive that we're like,
Starting point is 00:43:05 let's make it like, I think it was Chris Harrison said, let's make a show that's like just, let's put them on ice, let's put like, you should see some like, let's see like, let's see like Ben Higgins skate in a leotard. Like there's some pretty good scenes because we all are like not Olympic athletes, but they tried to make us Olympic athletes. Oh, were they making you do like activities and challenges?
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah. So like the first one, like we did downhill skiing which like Dean killed us all. He's from Colorado and you know killed the skin. And then we had to do speed skating and you were in Canada. So we got to wear like the full Canada gear and everything and it was like we did a big parade. We did watch the first episode. You guys did the parade where you guys were walking out.
Starting point is 00:43:43 with like your countries and stuff like that. So they did like a mock Olympics challenge style dating show. Were you all single? Yeah. Like if you won the comp, you got to like get a date card for the night. It stopped. He went back to the mansion and it was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:58 So we should bring back bachelor pad, but do it with already established couples. So like scratch the dating for two couples competing for a week. I've been preaching that for years, but nobody listens to me. People would watch. People would like them. I remember watching.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I watched like the first episode of Winter Games because it was like it came out. I want to say like five days before I was leaving to go on Becca's season. And I was like trying to like kind of get everything in. And I remember watching it and being like, what am I doing? Like what what tolerant show am I about to go on? It gave me really bad anxiety. Yeah. So you never watched Bachelor before you went on.
Starting point is 00:44:42 No. No, I mean, I knew. I did, yeah. And I mean, you were familiar because you have cousins and. Well, I knew what the show was. I mean, there's people that we interview and they're like, I never even heard of it before. I was like, okay, well, you're fucking lying. You definitely heard.
Starting point is 00:44:56 The amount of shows that, like, reference The Bachelor to just in, like, pop culture is like every other show. I feel like we're watching. We were watching like what, like Rick and Morty and they reference The Bachelor. Yeah. Shows you would not expect. Yeah. I got to stop saying, I got to stop swearing. My mom texts me the other day.
Starting point is 00:45:16 She's like, stop saying the F word on the podcast. You don't swear that much in person. Like, that is actually true. I actually do say the F word. I think he's more in person than on the podcast. Bobby now says the F word because we say it quite a bit. Oh, it's so funny. Oh, it's a grown-up word.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So then he wakes up in the morning and he'll be like, Mommy, I'm not going to say fuck today. He's not an F word. I'm like, okay, you just said it though. It's the hardest things in our laugh. Because you're like, buddy, we don't say that what are. kid daddy no more fuck I promise I left just thinking if I would little kids swear I find
Starting point is 00:45:49 that's so funny which is a problem because I know appropriately when he's like playing with this dinosaur he's like I'm gonna fucking get you well that's what it's funny it's like how do you know I get his little glasses kills me he's so cute
Starting point is 00:46:07 he's the cutest little kid would you guys ever let when your kids get older would you ever let him go on reality TV. Is that a thing? Good question. I think it depends on the show, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah. There's not reality TV that's on that I wouldn't ever go on, you know? And then there's like the bad shirt. It's like nice and clean and, you know, so it would depend on the show. Yeah. I'd let them wrong. Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Any. I mean, once 13, you don't really have a choice. I think it's just harder because it's like I would say like, yeah. of course, like, I would be a hypocrite if I didn't, like, fully support them if that's something they wanted to do. I mean, there's some shows that I would prefer them go on than others are hypothetical non-existent children. But at the same time, I think there's, like, the anxiety of, like, you know too much. Like, I think it's almost easier to let your kid go on when you, like, have no idea what's actually going to go down when you're there and, like,
Starting point is 00:47:03 what could potentially happen after. Like, we know so much both, like, our story and, like, the not so cute stories of being part of this show. So, like, I would just have an additional layer of like caution surrounding it. I guess it depends on the kid too. If I felt like my kid was like smart and level headed and I'm so small, I'd be like, okay, I trust you. But if my kid was a little crazy and like, you know, yeah, I'd be like, I don't advise this knowing who you are as a person. Like even friends. I have friends that I think would be great and I have friends that I love, but I'd be like, I don't think this is for you. It's also like one of the odds that like mommy and daddy had a great experience and it worked out and it works out for you guys. Like
Starting point is 00:47:43 the odds are just so low. Yeah, you're right. That's true. I don't know. Oh, you never know. You never know. Before we let you guys go, anything, you got upcoming, you want to share, anything you want to plug, anything like that? You guys chilling in Burlington?
Starting point is 00:47:55 You move in anytime soon? Well, first of all, before I forget, Joe, whenever you're in Toronto, let's do a round to golf this summer. Oh, yeah, definitely. I'm like 30 minutes from Toronto and we can meet in the middle. Oakville has a lot of great courses. We can meet somewhere in the middle and do a, do a round. I'm trying to break. I broke under a hundred three times last year, and that's, uh, but I can, you.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I'm usually like between one and one 15 if I have like a, I count every stroke though. Like I do. Me too. I count every single. I don't tap in. I mean, I don't, my buddy's on Canadian long drive. He drives at like 400 yards. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:25 But he's been teaching me a lot of stuff and he's always like, dude, you can take that. I'm like, no. Because if I start taking the two putters, I'll miss them. When does it end? When does it end? I agree. Those are home the summer. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:48:37 We just got an apartment in Toronto. So we'll be there a lot. That's awesome. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, we're excited. It'll be fun. I think you haven't been to the beaches yet. You guys lived in the beaches for a while. No, we were in Liberty Village. Oh, why did you go to the beaches? We used to go to the beaches like we had friends over there, but we were always. We haven't been to Liberty. I took you to burger drops. It was like the dead of winter. We'll take you to Liberty Village. It's cute over there. The only thing I'd like to plug is Astrid and I are running a fitness retreat. We've done one already. It's called Active Escapes. It's a company from Australia, but they've expanded to this side of the world. So we ran the first one in February, and it's in Cancun. And basically, it's a week vacation where you just turn your brain off and follow the schedule. Like yoga retreats are really popular. It's similar to that, but it's a little more intense.
Starting point is 00:49:26 You get like a morning beach workout. Usually there's some kind of activity, whether it's a catamaran or some kind of local serenote visit or whatever you do. And then you do an afternoon weight training session and a yoga session, which she, coaches and then there's like a party day there's like it's a really big social group i've done seven of them but um all over the world and now that they've expanded astrid and i took on this franchise in cancun so it's called active escapes if you look it up and our branch is active escapes cancun and the next one we run is December 1st is it similar to surf yoga beer so they stole it from yeah they ripped off okay yeah really active escapes have been around for
Starting point is 00:50:09 15 years they have i don't know like i'd been to the one in Dubai. They got them in all over Indonesia and all over Australia, like a lot of that side of the world. They do like a boat retreat where the full in the Maldives where you're on a boat for the whole week. It's like a yacht retreat. Yeah, it's just like a week of like fun workouts, drinking and people come as couples, people come by themselves. Like about half of our guests are usually single people traveling, looking to meet new people. So it's a really fun way. You like working out and meeting new people and some people will do some people will do one workout in the first day and then you just only see them at the social
Starting point is 00:50:44 things. So they're like, really. Okay, so it's like casual. It's very, very casual. It's a lot of fun. Everybody's like, the repeat guest is like in the 80% of like people that are signed up have usually already been to one so it can get really addictive. It's a lot of fun. So if anyone's looking for like a before Christmas getaway where you come back a little
Starting point is 00:51:00 bit fitter than you left and something to look into. Nice. Wait, that sounds so fun. I actually would love to do something like that. Our first trip after post paradise was to one in Bali. And I at that point was like, just doing yoga and I literally thought I was going to die during the obstacle course.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Yeah. Like when you finish the week, you feel like you can take on anything. Like you're just like, I'm a super human. I can do three workouts a day and still drink tequila and nothing fazes me. Okay. Well, everyone listening, be sure to check out active escapes. I mean, I would go. Yeah, maybe we'll go to the next time.
Starting point is 00:51:34 That would be amazing. We'll be. Yeah. Yeah, send us the info. Awesome. And I'll definitely, I'll definitely hit you up for golf. and thank you guys so much for coming on the podcast. And to all our listeners,
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