Bachelor Happy Hour - Rip That Band-Aid Off | Golden Hour

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back answering more of your questions! We kick off the episode with the question of the day: How important is it to live near your significant other whe...n dating in your Golden years? Then, we dive into your questions! Are age gaps the kiss of the death for all relationships? How do you find community like Kathy and Susan when you’re their age? And is there any way to elevate the mother of the bride look at your daughter’s wedding? You asked and we’re here to help! Everyone needs a little nudge to trust themselves and get out there. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members
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Starting point is 00:02:17 Culture Raises Us, I was joined by Volisha Butterfield, Media Founder, Political Strategist, and Tech Powerhouse for a powerful conversation on storytelling, impact, and the intersections of culture and leadership. I am a free black woman. From the Obama White House to Google to the Grammys, Valicia's journey is a masterclass in shifting culture and using your voice to spark change. Listen to Culture raises us on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us today. We are, as always, excited to be here and share some time with you. How are you doing today, Susan?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Pretty good, pretty good, waiting on the pins and the plates going to be put in my arm here. Can I just say, can I just say little known fact here? Two years ago, I broke my wrist exactly in the same way that Susan did. Why do I need to copy you? Why? I don't know. I was very foolish. We fell the same way. When she called me, I was like, oh, let me tell you what's coming your way. God, I dread. But you know what? She's going to be fine. She's going to be fine. Your wrist will be as good as...
Starting point is 00:03:32 No cartwheels for a couple weeks. Well, you know, no handstands. We're here to answer more of our fan questions. So, guys, make sure you keep submitting those. We love reading them, and we definitely love hearing back from you to see how things went. You know what to do? Just go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and submit away, because we're here to receive them and talk about them.
Starting point is 00:03:58 And let me just say, since Susan can't do much, she really wants to read your questions and contemplate her answers. So please, do us all a favor and send me some. And you know what? You can send us your questions, your updates. Send it to all of us. You'll be doing Susan a favor. You can also DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Starting point is 00:04:19 All right. Okay. You ready, Kat? It's time to get into the episode. And we're going to start with the question. of the day. Today, when dating in your golden years, how important is it that you live in the same city or what about the same state?
Starting point is 00:04:40 How important is that when dating at our age? I mean, it's more convenient, I'll say. You know, I think it depends. I think it depends on how you meet the point. person if you if you establish a relationship and you then are living for like say somebody's in town and you spend three or four days with them and you're like oh I'd like to continue dating I think long distance can work um but I think it's tough it's more difficult more expensive it's more expensive I I don't know many relationships you know we've interviewed some young guys and women
Starting point is 00:05:26 from the Bachelor series on our podcast who have said it's an issue. I think it is potentially an issue to get to the finish line. And by the finish line, I don't mean marriage. I just mean to solidify your relationship. I think it's hard. But for you, I'm asking you, how important it is it that he lives in the same state as you? It's not important in the beginning. in the beginning it would not be it would not be hard as long as I could fly there and let's be clear
Starting point is 00:06:04 when I say as long as I could fly there as long as he's flying me there but yeah but I'm but I want I want more than just dating so when you're asking me specifically you know I don't want to just date a guy in Seattle you know and see them you know one weekend a month that's not what I'm looking for. I think it is, it's more difficult. I got to tell you, though, I know a guy who said to me that if you're with a guy, you know, if you're dating him or a serious relationship, you need to move where he is. He said, women need to move where the man is. Why? I don't know. I just tell him. That's what he said. Well, I would think who has the better area. Well, I said to him similar. I said, well, wait a minute. You know, you've got a great job, whatever you're doing, whatever he does.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And I said, let's just pretend I'm a trial attorney and I'm very successful. And I'm only licensed in my state. Well, then he folded. Then he said, well, if that were the case, then I would make it a priority to come to see you and I said okay so so I think it's more difficult I think you can date long distance but if you're asking me specifically I want to see a guy more often so if I really like a guy I'm going to go I mean it would be important I think it's easier way easier to see each other to have a relationship but like you said it can be done would you move Susan not generally Would you move to be with the guy you're dating? Yes, as long as I can come back and see my family when I want, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yeah. I think at our age, you know, I think this is hard, hard. I think it is difficult for people who are younger, maybe listening to our podcast, and we're so glad you are. But at our age, you have to understand that our children are grown. They don't come, they're not all in the same city cap. There's nobody left here. Well, that's for you.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I have two children here and two grandchildren here. No, I meant men to date. Oh, yeah. Well, there's that. We take them wherever we meet them. Yeah, but I'm just saying our life now is an adventure. And if I meet a guy that I'm interested in, he's interested in me, and he says, hey, you know, you make it work.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Come on out here and spend a couple of weeks in me. I'm gone. I'm going. And if that goes well, then I'm going to spend more time out there. Or he's going to come to see me more. You know, that's what I'm going to do. Yeah. fine. Like I said, the only thing is it's a little easier when they're local, but it's not an end
Starting point is 00:08:51 all, you know, if they're not, you make it work. Could you do it? But wait, how long could you date long distance? Because for me, there'd be an expiration date. Before you moved in with one enough, do you mean? Or? Before we committed to each other in a way that one of us, we were either spending, you know, much of the time together. It would depend on. Or we moved in. who's retired and who's not. Well, at our age, typically, typically. But if you date younger, they're still working. So, well, but see, that's really easy.
Starting point is 00:09:27 If I were dating a younger man, which I'm happy to do, by the way, and he's working, I'm going there because I'm not working. Right, right. I mean, that's just no break. It can work. Like I said, it's just easier if he's around here, but it's not a deal breaker. Just that. Do you think it's harder for younger people? Maybe because younger people have full-time positions, you know, they have to be, they can only do a weekend. And if it's far, if it's on the other side, like California or wherever, that's a long flight to do for a weekend.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. Some of our younger bachelor nation couples, I look at them. One or both of them, you know, they're influencers. They're not. tied to a desk or a job. They can work from home. They can work from them so they can travel around and do what they do. But I think for younger people who are building a career, if they're not working remote, it's tough. Yeah, it is. So it's all this conversation to say that you have found me the guy that wants to date me long distance. Give me time. Kath, I'm working on it. All right. All right. We're going to get into our fan questions here. I'm going to read the first one. go. Kyla writes, Susan and Kathy, you seem like so much fun and a friend that everyone would like to have. Well, thank you, Kyla. But we want you to be our friend too, Kyla. Okay. If I ever had
Starting point is 00:10:56 the opportunity to meet you, I would talk to you about so many things. I guess my question would be, how do I build strong connections and a community around me like you have with Kathy and the other relationships you have built. Well, since she's directing it, you go, Susan. What do you think? Okay, well, for starters, you need to be locked in a mansion. No phones. Weeks at a time with no phones and no contact with the outside world and you get to know
Starting point is 00:11:26 each other. I think it's more difficult out in the real world. But you start with a friendship, somebody that you enjoy their company that makes you feel good to be around them and you make them feel good, whether it's a joke or just being a positive person, people like being around us. I think, Susan, yes, but you and I also, you know, everyone thinks we just laugh and giggle all the time, which we do. But both of us have our issues with each other.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I cried a lot. She cried. Yeah, you know, she does, I will say. And I'm there for her. But I will say, I think part of building. a strong friendship is listening to the other person, not judging the other person, which is something I've had to work on hard in my life.
Starting point is 00:12:20 So how do you break the rules and Kathy's not a rule breaker? No, no, she's got to understand. Wait, excuse me, Bachelor Nation. Susan doesn't break the rules. Susan shatters the rules. No, I make my own rules. And she leaves shattered glass everywhere she goes and people have to dodge their steps. You know what? You would like us. I hope you do get to meet us someday because we're fun. We are. And we have a serious side that we really do.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But I would say, Kyla, you know, in the activities that you're in, however you meet people, whoever it is, right, the friends that you have, spend the time listening to them, asking them. It's just like dating in a way. And asking them to do fun things with you as well. Yeah, but asking them about themselves. It's like dating, right? Find out about them. Don't ask too many questions, but be interested in what they come from, right? I think people, yes, but I think people want to feel heard and understood. And whether you're dating or a friend.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And so you need to, I mean, I, everyone knows, Kathy asks way. And some days I'll say, Kathy, no more questions. Let's just talk about life. Right. But I do ask a lot of questions because that's how I integrate whatever into my brain is by asking questions. So I would encourage you, Kyla, the people that you're friends with spend time finding out what makes them tick and what you guys have in common. And what you don't have in common because that's what builds friendships. You don't want to clone friendships.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I'm going to be exactly like you. No, no. And you want to do fun things together, things that make you smile, you know, maybe. somebody likes comedy and you like comedy, you go, or hear music, live music. It doesn't matter, but that's how you, and then that person, when they enjoy your company, is going to tell the next person. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Like, that's. And, Kyle, if I'm being really honest, the reason Susan and I are such good friends, she does a hell of a job cutting my hair. And cooking for her. And cooking. But here's the problem. And traveling on vacation. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:14:32 All right. Here's the deal. Her broken wrist is really cramping my style right now. So I'm going to have to get my hair cut somewhere else. I've got to order out again. Okay. And that's just, that's just business as usual for me, ordering out. All right. You know what?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Just be you. Be real. And people will know. You're good people. Yep. I agree. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast.
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Starting point is 00:17:26 honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by Basketball Legend, Candace Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't. expect it and that was just you know and honestly it took me a long time to be okay with myself make sure to listen to this week's episode of spoletics on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast hello puzzlers let's start with a quick puzzle the answer is ken jennings appearance on the puzzler with a j jacobs the question is
Starting point is 00:18:31 What is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers, who say that you were given all the answers, believe in... I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy Truthers? Are there people who say that it was rigged? Yeah, ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers, right? And then there's the other ones which are like, they gave you the answers, and you still blew it.
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Starting point is 00:19:58 where do I shop? This one probably is for Susan L.O.L.L. Yes, dear. Excuse me. Excuse me, Michelle. I would like to tell you exactly where to shop, but I'm going to defer to Susan. In Susan's closet. I wish I had the money for the things I brought. No, wait, I think, wait, I actually can take a stab at this because she's more like me than you, right? So, so Susan is a great shopper, Michelle. But let me tell you, Susan's how, and other Nancy, other people have helped me learn how to shop. Here's what the first thing you do. You decide what styles. You're going to be so proud of me, Susan.
Starting point is 00:20:36 You decide what looks good on you, what colors look good on you, what styles and shapes. So you have a plan. Yeah, of what colors and what profile looks good on you. And you start with that. Then get online and go to different department stores and just scroll looking at those profiles that you think look good on. Pause, Kathy, because this is what I make her do sometimes. I don't like doing it. Oh, my God, I'll be here forever.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Go on. I hate it. I hate it. Because here's the thing, Michelle, I'm right with you. I say to Susan all the time, I don't know what looks good on me. I have to try it on. And Susan's like, no. No, certain styles I already know.
Starting point is 00:21:23 But you're right, Kathy. You do need to put something on. Something sometimes that you don't think is all. all that and you put it on, it looks, or quite the opposite. Wow, look at that and you put it on, oh, dear God. Take it off. Just take it off. Get it off. Okay, so give her some advice, because that's my advice is you've taught me to go online, look at profiles and styles and colors that I like. And it's still hard, Michelle, because, you know, then it's like, do I order a four, a six, or an eight? Because I've worn all three sizes, and there's that issue, too. And it depends on your
Starting point is 00:21:56 body shape, what is going to look best on you? I mean, there are people out there you could actually hire your stylist to dress Nordstroms. I know, they always have stylist that you go ask the professional and so does Neiman Marcus. But when I tell you, I can shop at Walmart. Wait, does Target have one? Walmart and Neiman Marcus in the same day, it doesn't matter to me. And I'll wear both garments at the same time and it looks fabulous together. So it's not only about how much. you're spending it's not oh it never is and in fact marshals you can find things in marshals now not for a wedding maybe yes you can but i get overwhelmed here's the thing michelan i totally get you you get overwhelmed susan i have shopped with susan so many times we'll walk into a store
Starting point is 00:22:44 oh susan is like a buzzard she just flies like right through and tell you if we're staying Turkey hawk. She sees and she just goes, and yanks stuff off the hangar. I'm like still on the- Or I'll say, nope, not here. Let's go. Yeah. But it's so it's difficult for people like us, Michelle, you and I, it doesn't come naturally to us. But, you know, I can go out and run six miles and Susan can't.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So we all have our strengths. No, no, it's not that way because she said back when she was younger, she could whip together an outfit really easy. I also like, I never would want to look like when you, you Google Mother of the Bride. Oh, dear God. No. You can go to those dress stores that are for
Starting point is 00:23:28 proms and bar mitzvahs and, you know, whatever. They have so many different styles and that's the person you say, okay, I am looking, I am the mother of the bride. However, I don't want to look like the mother of the bride. I want to look good.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I want to feel good. And they'll help you. Yeah. If not, call me, write me, DM me. But I will say one other thing Susan has taught me, which I hate trying on clothes. I really do hate shopping. I hate cooking and shopping. I don't know what guy wouldn't want me. Anyway, Susan has talked me into trying on things.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Even if I don't think, like if I like the colors, something attracts me to it. But then I look at it. Oh, no, this would look good on me. Susan will always say, try it. Try it. And I have bought things. One of the dresses I wore to a bachelor. or nation function actually.
Starting point is 00:24:22 The black and brinestone one? No. Well, that one too. But this was a sparkly copper dress that I wouldn't have tried on in a month of Sundays. And Susan said, no, try it on, try it on, and I loved it. And it looked great on me. And I got so many compliments. So my other suggestion, you never know.
Starting point is 00:24:41 My other suggestion, Michelle, is take your, if you have a daughter, I take my daughter sometimes with me, take a friend and say, help me pick out some things to try on because it can be very overwhelming. Or DMA, what state do you live in love? I swear to God, Susan will shop for you. I will do it. I will do it. With her broken wrist, she will shop for you. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I enjoy it. I enjoy making people feel good about themselves. Say somebody's really hippie. You know what I mean? Like wide on the bottom, what is that, a pear shape or something? Then you're not going to get something that's so fitted on the bottom and makes your top look invisible. You want something to compliment and accent your good parts.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And you're right, Kathy, sometimes color is an amazing, amazing change in whatever it is. You feel good in it. I don't know. I'm with you. I'm with you, Michelle. It's brutal. But let us know. Send us pictures.
Starting point is 00:25:41 We'd love to see. And congratulations, by the way, on the upcoming wedding of your daughter. All right. Here's the next one from M. okay which by the way if your name is emily my sister's name is emily and we called her m so i don't know maybe it's my sister writing this in hi kathy and susan i love your podcast and advice i was curious how much of an age difference is too much i am talking to a guy who is 26 and i am 20 obviously that can be two very different stages of life although i live a life different different
Starting point is 00:26:19 from most 20-year-olds and have finished college and work full-time. Whoa. Do you think this is an issue or could it work out? So far, it has been going great, but interested to see what you guys think. 20 and 26? He's six years older than she is. So? Well, she's 20.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You're way slower than women. I was married at 20, Susan, so I can't even imagine. I would say to you, M, you seem perceptive that you realize that you could be at two different stages of life, but you also seem responsible and mature because you have finished college and you work full time at 20. Most 20-year-olds are getting drunk on 6th Street and partying hearty. So, you know, you don't seem like a 20-year-old. I don't think it's a big deal at all. Well, I think she said, do you think this is an issue?
Starting point is 00:27:14 No. M, it could be an issue, and could it work out? Absolutely. The only way you're going to know is keep dating them, see how it goes. I mean, I'm wondering if she's wondering if he thinks 20 is too young. You know what I mean? And that she's sharing that. It could be. But I wouldn't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I don't know. I think she's insecure. It says so far it's been going great. Yeah. Keep it going great. Who cares? It's a number. It's a number. Your lips to God's ears.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's a number. It can be a number and it can be real. I think M is right. How about 54 and 68? I don't know. Would you date someone 54? Yes, I would. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:28:02 All right. So I think it's individual. If it's working M, you know what? God bless you. I'm so happy you found your guy. And maybe it's not your permanent forever guy. Maybe he is. You're only going to know.
Starting point is 00:28:15 That's a good point, Kathy. Because you're 20 and he's 26, I want to say the odds because like you, you got married at 20 and had a wonderful marriage. I don't know that it's a forever person. You know what I mean at that age? Because you change and you're maturing in your 20s. In your 30s, you're a little more level-headed or settled about what it is you want. and what kind of life you want with your partner.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Right. But I wouldn't change a thing, just see what happens. Yeah. I think, you know, don't rush it, M, you're 20. Enjoy the moment you're in, enjoy the time you guys have together, see where it goes. And by the way, you know, at the top of this podcast, M, where we always say right in and let us know, we were talking to you, M, we're talking to you. Let us know how it goes. Thanks for sharing too.
Starting point is 00:29:13 All right, the next one is from Melissa. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I love the podcast and wanted some advice about a friend of mine. In March of this year, me and my four best friends planned a girl's trip to Miami for four days. We paid for the flights and the Airbnb already. A couple of weeks after we planned the trip, one of my friends lost their mom suddenly. The four of us have given her so much love and support and are helping her. get through this tough time. She recently brought up not wanting to go on the trip anymore because
Starting point is 00:29:49 she doesn't want to burden us if she suddenly became sad and won't have a safe place to go if we're out and about. I told her that we would be there for her no matter what, but she won't budge and wants to be refunded for her part of the Airbnb. Should we try and help her come on the girl's trip because it won't be the same without her, or let her stay home and grieve her mom. Can I say, you don't get, I love you, Melissa, you sound like a wonderful group of ladies, of girls. You don't get to let her do anything. I am talking as a woman who grieved the loss of her husband. I've lost my mom in the last year and a half.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I lost my dad. You don't get to write the rules, Melissa. I hate to tell you, you have to let her grieve any way she wants. Do you have to refund the money? No. Is it the kind, generous thing to do? Yeah. All of you and your girlfriend should say to her, you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:59 We want you to come. We hope you'll change your mind, but we will happily refund your money. But work on her to come. But you- Kathy, one of the things she says, I won't have a safe place to go if I become sad? What does that mean? It just means, Susan, grief is so, it's not linear. You don't know when you're going to feel grief. I understand that. But why is not a safe place to go? You go back to the place. Maybe, maybe she's a, I don't know. We don't have enough information. But I know when my husband
Starting point is 00:31:34 first died, I would break down in public places. I was embarrassed. I felt awkward. And you know what, Now is your friend, if that happened, would leave the function and go be with you and talk it out, get it out, let you cry. Yeah, but I'm saying in the moment, in the moment, all you can think about is I don't want other people to see it. It's my private grief. I mean, that's how I felt, you know, I can't speak for Melissa's friend. But I think in this case, you have to let her, quote unquote, it is her life, it is her grief, it is her journey through this grief. I wonder how long since how long of a time. She's just said lost their mom suddenly.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So I'm guessing it's recent because I just planned the trip. But I also agree with what she says, should we try and help her come on the girl's trip? Because it won't be the same without her. I would share those exact words. We don't care if you have a meltdown. We're here for you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:35 You'll be better in our company and cry it out. We're here to hug you. It doesn't matter for us. We love you. Yes, but I 100% agree with what you just said, which is scary that I'm 100% agreeing with you. I love it when that happens. Don't hold your breath.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's not happening again for the next 10 minutes at least. But do you agree, Susan, that if they have to, they have to respect her journey through this grief is. Yes, yes. But I'm with you, Susan. Sometimes you might feel guilty like, oh, God, I don't want to ruin it. I'm just not happy. I don't want to go, but sometimes it's the best thing to do.
Starting point is 00:33:13 But, I mean, I can tell you I couldn't function. I couldn't go anywhere. I didn't want people to see me. I mean, I understand what she's saying. When your husband died, you mean? Oh, my God. I can imagine that. I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Her mom, and that's what happens. Yeah, I mean, I couldn't. And I'm guessing this mom was relative young. My mom just passed away a year and a half ago, who I loved with all. my heart, but she was 96. Not, not but, and she was 96. I'm guessing this young girl's trip, I'm guessing this mom died suddenly at a younger age. And so that is very, very different. You're not prepared. So Melissa, you're a good friend to Royless and ask us this. You are a good friend, Melissa. A kind heart, but do try to encourage her, but accept what she decides. And yes, you guys have to cough up a
Starting point is 00:34:08 little more money. Yeah, exactly. But you know what, regardless of what happens, Melissa, whether she comes or not, go, have a good time, celebrate your friendships, because as Susan and I can tell you, good friendships like that, don't come around that often. So, you know, pray for your friend if she doesn't come, but go and enjoy your time of your friends because that just doesn't come around that often. No, it doesn't. And appreciate it. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle,
Starting point is 00:34:46 you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs! And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week we decided to shoot our shot,
Starting point is 00:35:07 And boy, did we pull up from the logo to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. Because in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford. And in session 421 of therapy for black girls, I sit down with Dr. Athea and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Because I think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post, or real. It's how our hair is styled. You talk about the important role hairstylists play in our community,
Starting point is 00:36:12 the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to therapy for black girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:36:34 In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job and my parakeet is missing. How is your day? But the real world is different. Managing life's challenges can be overwhelming. So, what do we
Starting point is 00:36:50 do? We get support. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have mental health resources available for you at loveyourmindtay.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org. See how much further you can go when you take care of your mental health. I never envision being with a
Starting point is 00:37:06 and I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place. or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots,
Starting point is 00:38:09 I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Patton. Elaine Welteroff. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration. and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots, now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, Kathy, it's game.
Starting point is 00:38:52 It's my favorite. Oh, God, would you rather? Here we go. We're going to switch off reading the prompt and both say which we'd rather do and why. Okay, I'm going to start with, would you rather have a passionate, once in a lifetime romance that ends in heartbreak or a steady, loving partnership that lacks excitement? You answer that one. I don't like the one that says lacks excitement because what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:39:26 You're not jumping out of airplanes? If you have to choose, I mean. I don't want to choose. Wait, Susan, we live in a democratic society. You and I have free will. We don't have to, we don't have to pick. We can say we would rather have a passionate, once-in-a-lifetime romance that lasts forever. I honestly, oh, a loving partnership that lacks.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Oh, okay, wait, wait, I can make this work. Wait, Susan, I can make this work. All right. You and I are, here's how it's going to work. You and I are each going to find the man that we have a passionate, once-in-a-lifetime romance that ends in heartbreak one day before we die. Done. Got that one figured out. Moving on. Here we go to the next one. Yeah, do.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Would you rather suddenly lose all your cherished memories. but keep your personality intact, or keep all your memories, but have your personality completely change. Oh, that's a no-brainer. What's your answer? I want my personality to stay just like it is. Isn't that funny? I'm exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Again, we're in agreement. Is there a full moon out there? I don't know. I don't know, Jesus. I'm going to have to get some vodka out here or something. Wait, can I just say, you know, all the fire. that were recently all the devastation in California, that gave me, honestly, first of all, my heart went out to all the people and it's just, I can't even imagine. But at a very superficial
Starting point is 00:41:17 level, I sat there thinking, Kathy, what did you take? You know what I thought? I didn't care about any of my stuff. Isn't that awful? I just care about my kids. I would take my passport, like I would have, I have all those papers together, but in terms of things, I just don't care. No, just be you. Are you the same or no? Yes, I would just be me. I mean, I would be devastated, of course, but I don't want to change who I am. Yeah. All right. Would you rather relive your most embarrassing moment once a month for the rest of your life or have a stranger randomly
Starting point is 00:42:03 bring it up in conversation once a year. Oh, that's easy. I'd have a random stranger bringing up in conversation once a year. I'd be drunk or high and I wouldn't give a shit for what they said.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Ditto. That was easy. That was a real easy one. All right. Would you rather have all your text and emails from the last 20 years leaked
Starting point is 00:42:28 to the public, or have every thought, have every thought you've ever had about others spoken out loud? You know what? This question I actually love. I don't like this game. It's a new second, no game. No. Well, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Wait a minute. Wait, a minute. Wait, there is a lesson in this. Please tell me what it is. Here is the lesson. When I taught, when I taught eighth grade speech and communications, I taught the kids this. you can say whatever you want to say when you put something in writing on the internet in a text an email it lives on in naked pictures you never know where they're going to stay on in perpetuity
Starting point is 00:43:11 and they were like purport what i said it means it lives forever someone always has access to that so be careful what you write be careful what you say so in my case i would rather have all my texts and emails, because I'm very careful about what I write. And she's so perfect punctuations, grammar. I was an English major. You know, when to say me or I. Oh, it drives me nuts. Once an object and once a subject.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah, I think I would have to agree with you because I don't think I send emails like. Every thought I've ever had, wait, every thought I've ever had, I would be locked up. We'd be going to prison with no rangers. Yeah, exactly. hair and bushy eyebrows oh god susan you know that would be susan in prison let me just say susan in prison would be saying uh what date is the hair salon what did we get our hair done i need my nails done i broke a nail what day is the nail is the nail tech coming and i'd be like and you know what i'd be saying can i please get out and run six miles i'm losing my mind it's true that's exactly
Starting point is 00:44:18 how it would be all right okay would you rather would you rather would you rather would you rather would you rather discover that your entire family secretly hates your parties or that they have a secret group chat dedicated to discussing your love life. Oh, that's easy for me. My entire family can hate my parties because I don't have them. Don't come if you don't like them. Don't be talking about my love life. Well, can I just tell you my kids have talked about when I've dated guys they have. Oh, yeah. My son's good on my case. Mom, seriously, you went out with him? Christopher.
Starting point is 00:45:00 We don't care. We're living our best life. All right. Okay. Would you rather have your deepest... Ooh, I like this one. Would you rather have your deepest secret turned into a best-selling novel that everyone knows is about you
Starting point is 00:45:15 or have a terrible rumor about you spread that you can never prove his faults? Oh, I want the book. I want the book. I'm going to make money on it. You're going to embarrass me. Okay, bring it on, but just. No, I've asked, wait.
Starting point is 00:45:29 It has to be a full moon. Wait, can I just tell you? I've often said this. This is true. And they're all dead, so they can't say anything. So my mother, I grew up in a very abusive family. And my life was like Mommy Daris, Joan Crawford's story. Truly.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And I remember, I was like, why can't, like, why does she get to make all? You know, like, I had the same life. Well, because I'm not famous. But, okay, if anyone wants to write a story about me, I am in. I'll give you all the dirty details as long as I'm paid up front for this story. Best sellers. Best sellers. And then I want a movie made.
Starting point is 00:46:05 We like this one, okay? We like this one. I want to star in the movie, Susan, that they make from the book. All right, go. Okay. Would you rather find out your best friend stole from you years ago and never. told you or that they secretly sabotaged a relationship you have because they
Starting point is 00:46:27 didn't approve. Oh, that's easy for me. Yeah, what is? If they stole something from me that was $10 or less. But there's no amount. I mean, I think I would rather they stole than they ruined a relationship. But see, I don't see, I'm just think of, I'm too logical.
Starting point is 00:46:49 If the relationship were meant to be, they couldn't sabotage it. Oh, God, Kath, really? Just do the question like it is. Like, really pretend. Will you please? Why do you have to be? Okay, wait, wait, wait, Susan.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Could I please have the relationship? Can we have the relationship? It's like me guessing what Kathy's going to say. I need the relationship to see whether I want you to sabotage it. That's the answer to my question. We're still on the book. We like the book. And the movie.
Starting point is 00:47:20 The bestseller. and and we want we want royalties oh my god a whole new life Susan for us our life story who wants to write it this is absolutely been a trip that I hope you guys enjoyed it like we did
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Starting point is 00:48:29 Okay, it's time for us to go. I have to go meet with an agent about my best-selling novel that it's about to come out about my life. Stay tuned. My costumes for the movie. That's right. It's all going to happen. In the meantime, listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the Iheart radio app or wherever you listen to Podcasts. Everybody have a great week.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Chat. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie Jamil Hill because she going to keep it a century. The American public is used to being entertained. a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics
Starting point is 00:49:26 with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job
Starting point is 00:49:38 and my parakeet is missing. How is your day? But the real world is different. Managing life's challenges can be overwhelming. So what do we do? We get support. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have mental health resources available for you at loveyourmind today.org.
Starting point is 00:49:56 That's loveyourmind today.org. See how much further you can go when you take care of your mental health. I was diagnosed with cancer on Friday and cancer free the next Friday. No chemo, no radiation, none of that. On a recent episode of Culture Raises Us podcast, I sat down with Warren Campbell, Grammy winning producer, pastor, and music executive to talk about the beats, the business, and the legacy behind some of the biggest names in gospel R&B. and hip-hop. Professionally, I started at Death World Records. From Mary Mary to Jennifer Hudson, we get into the soul of the music and the purpose that drives it.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Listen to Culture raises us on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation
Starting point is 00:50:41 about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. And there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, good game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players, the predictions, the pressure.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very wonderfully experiential for you. event. To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an Iheart women's sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports Network. This is an IHart podcast.

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