Bachelor Happy Hour - Robin: One Big Golden Family! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan sit down with Robin from this season of “The Golden Bachelor”! This fun, wine-filled episode gets going as Robin dives in with Kathy and Susan on all things “Golden Bachelor” and more. First, we get a closer look at Robin’s life: From a successful woman in finance to winery owner to “Golden Bachelor” contestant, she’s a woman who wears many hats! Kathy and Susan also get to know her romantic life and what led her to the show. We then chat about her thoughts on the drama, how her cast compares to Season 1, and what her favorite things are about Mel. Plus, we hear all about how Robin passionately hopes to teach women of all ages about financial literacy. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you all for joining us. We're so excited to be back. How are you doing today, Susan? I love this time, don't you, Kathy? And today, especially today, we have a special guest. Please welcome from this season of the Golden Bachelor. Robin is here. Yay.

Hi, Robin. How are you? I am so excited. So are we, Robin. We have a zillion questions, especially about your wine. Wait, wait. Can I just say, I have a glass of wine in hand. Let's all toast to each other.

And then I got to say, I got to say cheers. But I also have to say, Robin, Mel may be great, but I may have to switch teams because you are a wealth manager and you own a vineyard. Like, I'm in. I'm swallowing. You can't do that. We're swallowing. I mean, seriously, a wealth manager and she owns a vineyard.

I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Give me your address. I'm coming. First and foremost, where are you from? Where do you? Okay, so I, first of all, I love you, ladies.

I can't tell you're all happy. I am so excited to be on this right now. I'm so glad we had a toast. I was thinking, can we toast? Is that etiquette on a podcast? We could do anything. Anyway, so thank you, thank you for inviting me. I am from Napa Valley.

I live in Sanolina, which is a very small. I've stayed there. I have stayed. You've been there? I have. My husband and I, we love wine. and we have been to many of the vineyards there and stayed at St. Helena.

It's beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. So I live in San Alina. I have the second oldest commercial vineyard in Napa Valley. I am a wealth manager for 41 plus years at Merrill Lynch. I'm on the Forbes list of Best Women's Walth Advisor, Best in State for three consecutive years, which I'm truly proud of.

Yay, you, congrats. Tell me more about the wine. Yeah. Forget that. Let's go with the wine. Who gets about that? Let's see, who gets on money? Let's go with the wine.

So the wine is we, I have, I now have, because I'm not divorced. I have a very old vineyard. It is run. It is, right now, it's just, it's all cab, but I have cab and white. So it's one of the, it's a very old established vineyard. And I have my own label. Wow. We use spectacular.

And I also sell at another local winery. So it's, it's nice. So let me just say, when this whole show is over, did you, I want to thank you, Robin, for offering to host a get together for all the bachelor women. And when I say all the bachelor women, that's us too. Anyone you want to invite and Susan and me. All bachelor nation at the

stage. Thousands of people are coming in Apple, people. So we want to know. We're going to get into the show, but what was dating like for you before you got in the show? How long have you been divorced? I can't remember. Well, it's been 10 years, sadly, or

goodly, and it was the best of it happened because, you know, life gives you lemon and make lemonade, right? Right. That's what you do. Absolutely. Lemon into a lemonade. What did we got?

I got to keep lost having to 32 years of long marriage, raised two incredible children, and found myself to Vost, and I have an East Coast accent. I was just going to say, what is this accent? Sounds Boston-y or something. New England.

New England. I'm from outside of Boston, Robin. Where the heck is that accent from? Yeah, Rhode Island. You've been in Texas too long. You lost everything from Boston. Bless your little heart, Susan. Bless your little heart.

Okay, so wait. So what was dating, what was dating like? before you went on the show. So it was really challenging because I live in a very, you know, bedroom community. Everyone's coupled. Yeah.

You know, I mean, if you, I live like an hour and a half from San Francisco. So if you did find, how's that wine? Good?

Let's all have a drink here. I love that we're having a drink of wine. This is great. It's only 1 o'clock in California, but I'm sure it's later wherever you ladies are. You know what? Time is just,

age is just a number and time is just a number, Robin. My mantra girlfriend. All right. So, didn't that. No, Well, there's no dating.

I mean, I would try, and then they would be, you know, 100 miles away. And I'm like, okay, that's not going to work because I live in a very established bedroom community. A lot of people here have second homes, and it's just a lovely community, but it's not a dating community. Well, how did you get on the show then? What made you go on the show? So it's interesting because I have always loved Bachelination, and I watched Golden and I was obsessed. Oh, my goodness, ladies. Ah, killed me.

You should have reached out to us. I loved it. I literally, listen, I have a taped. every, I'd come home from work and I'd sit with my whatever I was eating and I would just watch. I could repeat what you said. That's something as I watched that for days. I loved it. And I thought to myself, you know what?

It was October and I thought, I'm going to do it. I'm going to just, and I mean, I have my two credits, which is great. I love my children to death. I'm grandson and I don't know what I want that person. I want to tell them what I did at night. I want to tell them what I did. I want to tell them what I didn't do. I want to tell them my exercise routine.

I don't have anybody. I have nobody. Yeah, no, we get it. For the longest time. Well, excuse me, I still don't. Susan does, but. Stop bragging. Stop it.

So, wait, I don't know how old your kids are, but how did they adjust to you going on the show? They were. Did you just apply? How did you hear about them? I mean, I got all the stories of how women get on this show. And I was like, knew no one, new no one and knew nothing. Let's just go for 101. Just an application, right?

Just 101, girlfriend. Same is me, Rob. and I'm not tech savvy. So nine times I deleted everything and redid it and got another glass of wine. I went through bottles of wine to get this application in the process. What did your kids say?

How old are your kids, by the way? So I have a 27 and a 29. Okay. So my daughter and son were very excited. They were a little concerned. Like, Mom, please don't kiss him. Don't like, I mean, really. I'm like, and Lindsay might,

okay, we're Lindsay and Nathan. Lindsay, my girl. It's like, oh my God. Like when I found out, we're like jumping up and down a little. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. You're Bobby kidding.

Nan is like, oh, okay. I have to interrupt for one second. What I'm seeing right now within the last, what is it, two or three minutes, not even, is not what I saw on episode one or two yet. It was hard. What happened? I was, didn't know. You got to be you.

Susan, you said exactly what I was thinking. And I was waiting for Robin to finish. And Robin, I'm going to tell you, finding love, whether it's on television, whether it's in your backyard, whether it's at a winery, you've got to be you. Because if the guy is going to fall in love with you and you're going to fall in love with him, you both have to be who you are. Otherwise, it's never going to work. Was it nerves probably?

No, I think what I did was I was looking at the global structure area. I'm looking at like, how does this all work? which is fine in my career but in it's just going to say it's not the vineyard you're looking at situation like this you have seconds you have minutes so how was it getting out of the limbo let's start with that second i cannot tell you i mean you know ladies you did this so the amount of energy angst anxiety yes rehearsal all that stuff i get in a limbo there's this gorgeous women in the limo i'm like oh my goodness gracious and i'm just trying to rehearse my lines looking on my water little wine

I want to get to him don't want to trip give him my wine because I'm a wine lady right please don't fall right that's not he's don't fall same thing same thing there's

19 different cobblestones I can't fall right so I get there and first of all he's adorable he's just he's my type I mean physically just oh wait let's get to work

whoa whoa whoa when you laid eyes on him what was your first thought oh man so my life I mean, he's just like, so, it's hard to find, it's hard to fun anyone, especially at this stage in life when we're all, you know, we've all eclipse, we all change our body types, we're pregnant, he is totally my type. So I was like, oh, yeah, this is going to be good. So I walked out and I gave my line. I was very excited, very excited. Um, and so that's the answer. I was excited. I couldn't wait to see him. He's so welcome. He was so kind. He was so, he was just, he made you feel it easy. I took everyone's hand. It was so nice. And then I walked into the mansion and I literally exploited. I let out of a, a. scream like we're here the last six months of anxiety how did you prepare were you out look at it clothes like what do I wear how do I'm telling you every single thing I took out of my

suitcase had a tie on her oh hello Susan I think so I have lots of friends and they're like oh yeah you can't wear that and you can't wear that I'm like I can't do this and I like a really professional woman. So for me to take hours of time to go shopping. Listen, I am not a busy professional woman and I hate shopping so I'm right there. We're there. Okay. I would be like bewitched or like I dream a genie.

Like really? I just want someone to buy blank. Remember my Gigi? She blinked. Yes. Yeah. Well was there any woman or maybe a few of them that you gravitated to. Okay. So we walked and you guys know this. I love talking about this. So you walk in across this big

mansion and you're there. And I literally, neatly sat next to Cindy. What are the chances? And this gorgeous blue gown. I mean, her gown was just, I was like, I have the woman who made it. I'm getting gowns made from this woman. And we just sat and talked for one time. There was a lot of chatter, as you well know.

And at like, 4.30 in the morning, it's time you do a wine tasting. I'm like, I've never white tasted it for 30 in the money. But I'm up for it. I'm up for it. So we wine tasted. And I, Cindy, and then, of course, my roommates for it. You know, you align with people that you spend time with. Who was in your room?

What room were you in? I was in the smallest room, the room that had no closets. We called the two-step room. Two steps to Carol's room. Two steps to the bathroom. Two steps to Robinspin. So it was Jerry, Amy Carroll, and then Cindy was our mascot. She didn't belong to us.

The men, she belonged to us for a long. She's ours now. We've got to. She's lovely. Isn't it funny how quickly, or you tell me, I mean, in our season, we forged friendships so quickly. And Susan and I both knew that Gary wasn't nice guy, but not our guy. And I don't know how that was for you. Did you feel like Mel could be your guy, or were you more involved in the friendships?

You know what? There are so many elements. We have a lot of history, a lot of backstory, which you might or might not be familiar with. But we have a lot of commonalities. He worked for Merrill Lynch for a few years. I mean, we have a lot. We're both in California, both professional. We have kids.

We adore our kids. Both are our kids are professionals. Athletes. His kids are in baseball. So I had such high hopes for this. I think what Susan, Susan, I think what Robin is telling us that she can't admit to is she's engaged too much. But you have to watch every episode before you know that. We are.

We are. But I'm just saying you sound like somebody. It sounds like there's a great connection here. All right. I got to fast forward to the night that we were there. Oh, that's the best night ever. Oh, my God, you guys. Wasn't that fun?

When they said, so, you know, we all run through the door, we open the door, like, we exploded. You guys, I mean, not that everyone's not my favorite, but you are my favorite. I don't want to say that. It shows the children here. Well, can I tell you, we were so excited. We were just as excited. We were so excited coming in, and they were, as Susan and I pulled up and, you know, they had us waiting to come in. And, wait, Kat, can I tell them what happened up front?

I'm telling her. They were taking some photos and somebody saying to me, Kathy, back up, back, because we're trying to film something back, or photograph or whatever, back up. We had all the bags in our hands. All our gift bags for you all, which we'll get to. Which we'll get to. And then we, uh, they said back up and I took one step too far and literally fell into the bushes, legs up, could not stop laughing.

I'm going, film this, felt this. It was just like, I don't know if you saw me on Paradise. on the camping trip when I went through the day. She fell there too? I saw that. It was exactly the same thing. They could not stop laughing. So we got to get our composure together, get the bags back together. Get to the door. Get to the door. Hi there. This is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes. Then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards.

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Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. It was so exciting for you. for us to meet you guys and see the excitement around your guys' journey to find love and the friendships. I mean, for Susan and me, it was just coming home again, you know, and that's why we love. It was a bittersweet, if you will. I bet you was like, when we saw you, we were so excited because we got no idea. They were like, okay, like, someone's at the door.

We're like, you know, you know nothing. No. You know nothing. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a nothing. Was it just quiet time? Well, let's be clear. Just chilling.

We came to the slumber party for anyone who isn't up on this, who was missed an episode. He was on a one-on-one. Mel was on a one-on-one with Debbie. And, you know, let's be honest here. When the guy, the lead is on a date with someone, you can say anything you want. The rest of us are sitting around going, yeah, I hope they're having a good time, not. Yeah, I hope not.

I hope they trip. Well, when they're coming back. So, okay, so we want to talk about the roast. Oh, my God, the roast with Jared Freed. What was your experience like? I love you. Okay, so I don't know if you saw what I said, but I'd tell you something. This was my, okay, you know, you think about, like, you got ladies to this process.

So you know, this honestly was my biggest fear. And I don't have a lot of fears in life, but this was a fear. because it was a spot that a performance, which I like to perform, but I need to be prepared. It was like the cheer winning. You have 45 minutes to get. Oh, we know.

And you know, and you're on the bus, and it'll tell you a thing. And you get there, and you're like, Gouldovin Bachelor, roast. I'm like, are you, no, that'll not be. So it was far for me. But so, wait, it was hard. You did a great job.

You did. I want to know, because I'm going to be honest here, I'm like you, Robin. I'm very outgoing. I'm very gregarious. But I did not really like the group dates because I'm not, even though I'm outgoing, I wasn't going to fight to get in his face. What was your feeling on the group dates? Tell me how you felt.

So, okay, so I didn't, let's see and say that question. I realized that my level of expertise in roasting someone was going to be a little bit more challenging and I didn't have that knowledge base. So I actually liked the group date to the point that we were a group and we competed together, but we weren't competing together at that stage. We were competing individually. And it was definitely more of, and I remember thinking myself, okay, I really got a killer here because obviously everybody wants the one-on-one. They want the after. So it was unlike the cheerleading, which we were a team, we didn't have that. So it was harder. And I think that's one of the elements. By the way, Kathy, what were your favorite

earrings. I wore your favorite earrings. So, so, so to your point, it was individual and Nicole wins the one-on-one date. How did you feel about that? I'm reading your facial expression because I want to know, did you feel like Terry and Cindy about the pool activity and Nicole being so forward and sucking his tongue out of his mouth? Constantly, then she wins. What were your thinking? thoughts. I do think a lot of us felt, and I'm only thinking myself, but it was kind of a common theme. Yes, we could tell. That she won for that. So what I think happened in life, we all did our best and we literally came out of our comfort zones. I mean, you know, you ladies did what you did. It was not easy. You do things that are not in your wheelhouse and the things that are

going to be challenging for you. We all rose to the occasion and we get it. If you look at some of the actual skits, the actual skits. There were some phenomenal skits. Not that Nicole's was not great, but was the best, maybe it was the best for Mel. Or maybe Mel just... Did you think of Mr. Friedman there? Maybe it was Mr. Freeman.

Or maybe Mel, let's just cut it down to what it is. Maybe Mel looked at Nicole and thought, you know what, I like the way she kisses me, and now I'm going to have a one-on-one to see if it's real. I mean, that's what I think. That's possible. But you know what? Honestly, I think that's valuable because this man has to decide between unbelievable women.

Like, we're phenomenal. You are. Crazy great women. So I think, and people would be like, oh, she's got it one-on-one. Like, but maybe that's good because then he can decide, well, that's is my person. Oh, that's not my person. Right. Did you what did you?

Exactly. Robin, did you mind him making out with her in the pool? Or to be grammatically correct, did you mind her making out with him? him in the pool. Or as Cindy said, did you mind her climbing him like a tree in the pool? That was the line. I think so far the priceless statement. So here's where I think. Everybody approaches love differently. This is not how I approach law. This is not what I do. This would not be my wheelhouse. So everybody does it differently. That would not be anything I would ever be comfortable with. Ever. Okay. Fair enough. Did you happen to say anything to Nicole about her

actions. We did have a cute conversations after that. And she was like, no, you know, but here's the online. I think I've thought about this a lot. I think that everyone uses, they lead with what they have. Yes. Like, I lead with different things that Nicole lead with. Yes. Wait, are you telling me Nicole has good lips. What do you say? Mine would be laughed. Absolutely. Absolutely. Have really laughter. You know, no, you're right. I lead with humor. I think that's really wise. I mean, I lead with intelligently with a lot of things. I don't lead. No, Robin, what you lead with is a good bottle of wine. Oh, baby.

You don't even know. Okay, so I want to know. I can't wait. So nine left. How did you feel like how did it feel for you to see so many of those great women go? And, Ann, were you shocked by any of the eliminations? So it was so sad because the mind is left, the Terry left, Terry left, Amy left, my roommate. And I was just like, I was so grateful.

Thank you, Lord. because I know if you look at the dynamics of our relationship, you don't ever have the time. There's so much there. There's so much there. I mean, there's so many things. So I was like, okay. And when I got to the nine, I came downstairs that morning. I was like, hooting how and I go,

please, we're in single digits. We're in single digits. We're in, because that's a big deal, right? It is a big deal. It is. So, yeah, I was very excited. I was sad. It gets harder each week.

Because you know, you've got to be packed and ready to say goodbye. and you don't know what's going to happen. And we love and I feel badly that one of the things I've always said to to everyone in Bachelor when you do these shows, couldn't, especially for the seniors, the group dates be a little smaller and more intimate that you can have conversation and get to know someone rather than 10 people. He's, you know, just doing just being there. He's like, oh, okay, your husband's dad.

Oh, okay. Oh, okay. You live in Austin. Oh, okay. I mean and you got to try to remember yeah well here's the thing if you're really smart you find a way and I wasn't good at it but but I think you find a way to make that connection with him that he wants to know more yes well yes that's what everybody wants now looking at the first episode and everything I realize people dug very deep so I came out the Bible on and if you look at the

first episode, there are people that really dug deep and said, okay, but what do you want and how my kids and what's your lives look like and what do you want? I'm like, so what's where I had a little wind you like? Yeah, but you know what? But that's who you are. That's your thing. And that's your and you're, yes, that's your thing. You can never. I don't know. It's like, but it's kind of get deep and you and you like, do you love us? You did this journey. It's dance. It's minutes. It's it's this. It's crazy. It's a snap. So at this point in time after that that, that you made this what were your feelings like towards him at that point? Like you just couldn't wait to have more time with him.

Okay, so I really started getting in treach. Honestly, everyone was so good to know him. And I'm like, okay, and I don't know if I don't know what happened, but I decided that. So I need to develop my feminine side. We decide. Cindy, my, my flirtation friend. Because I wrote that in my notes that you were a little flirty.

I saw the flirty. Hey, wait, wait, wait, me or her. Wait, me or her. Wait, Robin. You. Wait. I see you, you know, flipping your hair there. I'm a detective, and I need, this is the court of justice.

There's no extension. And I need how many women there had extensions? Do you know, I don't. No, I told you. How many did? A lot? I can't count the number, but there was close to you. I was right.

I told you, Miss hairdresser, I told you. I said there's no way. I know Pegg didn't have any. Peg did not have any. I don't have any. Terry didn't have any. Terry didn't have any. No.

Terry didn't have any. There were a lot because, I mean, it's, I mean, this is my long hair. This is long for a 63 or one, right? Like, this is all that. No, stop right there. Your hair is beautiful. Do you ever say to someone, Robin, oh, your hair is beautiful and lovely for a 23-year-old? We never say that.

Don't say, oh, my hair is thick and long. Thank you. I love my hair. My people love my hair. Age is just a number. How about when people, when you wear something, people say, oh, you could pull that off? Because you're- What the hell does that mean?

Okay. I can strike that. Thank you. Get the strike lady. Get the strike man. And Susan, for you, if a guy says to me, you can pull that off, he means something else. All right. Yeah.

Well, but the answer is I do understand people that have, you know, everybody has their thing. I mean, like, everybody does whatever they do to look better. All right. So, Robin, we've got to ask you, you know, we've, we've bulleted you with questions here. Yes, you have. Are we still drinking? Oh, hell yeah. Can we just stop and take a sip?

Yes. Yes. Cheers. Sit time. Situ. Until we meet. Hey, hey, Susan, for you. Wait, we got it.

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on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening now. Robin, we've asked you tons of questions. You got anything you want to ask us before we let go? Floor's yours. I want to know so many things about your ways. First of all, how was Bachelor in Paris? Tell me, tell me, tell me. Oh, my God.

I can answer this in like 30 seconds. I have the time of my life, and I'll tell you why. I knew I'm great friends with Keith. I knew there was no love connection. I loved being with those youngans. I felt like they wanted us there. They wanted our wisdom, our advice. And I mean, how much fun is it when someone's cooking meals for you and don't have to make

your own bed? There you go. 30 seconds. Loved it. Okay. So let me ask you another question. So now you're off the show and now you have a whole, world ahead of you. Yes. How does that look? Because everyone's like, this is going to change your

world. What does that look like? I can, for me, this, my world has, I've gotten to do so many wonderful things through Bachelor and in this podcast is right at the top of the heap. And I'm so grateful for every experience. But I will tell you, Robin, I am the same woman I was before I went on the show in that I love my family. I go to, I go to California and I do some fun things. I come back and vacuum my rugs. You know, I'm, I'm, I am grateful for every experience I've had, but I'm just like you. I'm looking for that person to, to wake up next to and say, I'm so glad I found you. So I'm not different from you or anyone else. But what I think they mean, Robin, when they say this to you is you're going to be more

recognized. Everywhere you go, people are going to know who you are. And you're stopped. And Kathy and I's message coming off the show was, it's never too late. It's never too late to find love. It's never too late. The world is full of opportunities. It's not over at 60. It might be the last chapter, but it's the best chapter, and we both hope it's a long one. We've got that carved in stone.

It is our last chapter. It's going to be my and is my best chapter. I am grateful for every wonderful experience. So I focus on women. So since I've been divorced, I focus on women. So I'm a big wealth advisor, you know, whatever. Finyard, wealth advisor. And I realized, I have to interrupt you.

Can you make my $10 million into $100 million and, oh, let's give it a month? How many of you got? I said a month. A month, Robin, a month. But you got $10 million? That's a pretty good start. And do you really think I have $10 million? Have you been recognized yet?

Well, that's the question of you later. So I, now, you goes out without makeup. I mean, are you like totally recognized? Yes, yes. You got to see the pictures of me they take. Yeah. Can we do a selfie? I'm in Walmart.

nine o'clock at night and sweatpants my hair stuck up in the air i don't care you don't care for i will say i have a new platform and one of the things i will tell you in ending this is i i did a tremendous amount of counseling when i was there so our room was matter of fact cindy woke by me so mom's doing counseling again all i counseled everybody i sat with all the young people and i'm like this so i do finance i mean wine is a great fun experience and we all love when talking about what we're where the wheelhouse on my life is is just helping you a financial okay that's for them And now since I've been divorced, I really focused on women because I know that women do not have, normally don't have the wherewithal or the impetus or the knowledge or just the theory to go. They leave it to someone else.

So when I sat with all the people and I did a lot of counseling, so I left this with really, even more knowing that my gift to life is to help people figure out where they're going. And I just want to give knowledge right now. That's why I asked you what your platform was. It's been more entrenched with me than ever. Okay, so Robin, you and I are going to go on the road together because I will tell you, I am a smart girl and I thought I knew about all our finances and all that. And when my husband died suddenly,

I very quickly realized, no, I didn't know. And so one of the things that I've talked about is women needing to understand to be more financially literate so yay you you need to do more of that I'll go on the road with you and talk about it and the but the other thing that susan and i um our platform for everyone listening is get up life does not come to your front door get out there live you have one life to live enjoy it make things happen, you are the master of your own destiny. And we love the fact that people will come up to us and say, you've given me hope. You've given me the, you've inspired me to get up and live

life. Yeah. So that's how our life has changed. And I'll wrap that up by saying two things. I've run a financial literacy class for people in high schools. Yes, high school, please, please take me on there with you. This is all I want to do in life. So financial literacy, people know you learn 99% of everything you do by your parents. Yes. I work with the community with a lot of different, you know, levels of education and knowledge and wealth. So that's one thing I do.

The other thing I do, I realize when I was on the show, and I tell you, then I'll run here, but when I was on the show and you asked me about my roast, at the end of it, I said, and this is what my platform was, I started realizing why I was on the show. And this is all the constant I did was, you just accept what we said, my dear. You need to encourage people that it's never too late. It's never too old. You're never too young. You don't just matter what you look.

Do it. Just do it. Do it. Because none of us want, I should speak for myself, but I think I speak for many of us. We don't want to be, you know, one day from leaving this earth with regrets of I wish I had tried this. I wish I had done that. The worst that can happen is you fail. And you know what?

We are old enough to know if you fail, so what? You pick yourself back up and you put a smile on your face. and you give it another try. And that is my biggest message. And Susan, you too. Absolutely. Robin, I want to ask you, what did you learn about yourself

coming off the show? I need to develop my comment inside. I need to know the fact that it's okay to be vulnerable. It's okay to not be in charge. It's okay. To let them lead once in a while. Let that thing happen.

And that was my biggest issue with the roast. I'm like, well, I don't know. I can do it. Linda? It's okay. And that's the takeaway. It's okay. Oh, Robin, you and I. This is okay. We're going to be the same. I have one more question and I promise I'll stop. I love this. After seeing us on our show compared to all the women on your show, what do you think was different, if anything? A lot. Yeah, it was a lot different. So I do think they tap down the age a lot. I think they tapped down the age a lot. And I think that. they look different yeah you know I really think that they really went on long hair

everybody had long hair everybody was very I mean with fit but you guys have fit I'm just saying you know they they really worked on aesthetics that was different than your show yeah I think that and I do I mean I watch your I mean you ladies you know I can repeat things you said that's how many times I watch your show Robin we didn't know what to do we were zip it Robbins it was great but I do think that's it and I also think that they're trying I also think that people came in with different agendas? I do think that my point. Yes. Do you think that? I think that, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, give us the top three agendas. I'm not like the hook on that. You know, the kitchen talk. You know,

the kitchen talk is business, you know, finding a man, financial security. I mean, I don't know exactly who, but I think you all, I'm just as a broad generalization, you all came in as just finding true love with the pure heart. I came in with that. I don't, I don't mean anyone to do anything. Not everybody did, right? I just wanted to find that person I can tell. Guess what happened yesterday. I don't think I don't think that was purity in our cast.

I don't. Was that a problem? Was that a problem for you guys? I think that it was illuminated. I think it was illuminated. It was spoken about. Yes. Did Amy really do all the ditches?

I love Amy. She's my roommate. I can't ever say that. I love Amy. She's the best. Now, I'm just saying that a lot of people, I mean, I think that people came in like and and you know i mean the bachelor's been on forever 30 years ago was not like it's

fay people wanted to be movie star i don't know like social media you know i don't know this stuff we didn't know anything robin yeah susan we got to say when we came on the show and we can speak honestly i think we can speak for pretty much our entire cast yes i did not know what a brand deal an influencer i didn't know what any of that was susan and i came on with pure i i i i Am I speaking for both of us? We wanted to find love. I want to find the man who wants to wake up next to me every morning and say how long am I. That's what the show is about.

It's supposed to be. And I think it's this. I do think as it eclipses, things challenge, get challenged, and it does d-beat. Yeah, that's what I can't wait until next week. And they're gorgeous. I'm not saying it's, and I'm not sure they, I'm not saying they wouldn't want love, but I don't think it's completely always the paramount. Like I came with an open.

heart i want to find love yeah find the man i want so and i don't know that's all i think that's a clipsing though like it's it that's what happens i'm coming to wine country girlfriend kathy and i're coming oh my god we're coming to see you you don't understand robin we are going to show up on your doorstep i wish you said i'm going to text you before we come please send me your number so i could text you and say we're on our way i want you to i would love you that oh my god the time we would have But, but you got, Susan, you have somebody, right? Yes, I did need somebody. Yes, she does have someone.

February 14th, as a matter of fact. We're going to do it together, Robin. I'm going to drag Cindy and Roxanne, whoever else wants to show up. We're going to come because those are the Austin contingent. Well, we have that Bachelor Nation vacation at sea. That's the first one ever. I know. I know.

You guys are going, clearly. We should get a bunch of you to come on that with us. We could. I could. I could have the schedule. And that could be fun. So is there anything else you want to ask us before? I just want to tell you that you're an inspiration

I just want to tell you that you were the first people out of the gate it was a very hard thing to do you have really illuminated just what life could be like in this stage of our lives trying to find love and it's it was really a well first it was an honor to meet you when you guys came into the mansion I mean I cannot tell you matter of it we were just as excited I'm telling I'm so I'm going to watch party night

I'm wearing the pajamas tonight Oh. Did you hear that Kathy, after the pillow fight, all the slippers were off and everything. She came home with two sizes, two different slippers. Oh, you know, is this? Someone said to me, is this your bracelet? It was your bracelet, Kathy. I'm like, oh, yeah, that must be Amy's because she wore all the gold bracelets.

Oh, can I tell you? No, no, no. I got out and I looked down and it was a diamond and gold bracelet. I flipped out. I know. I was so lucky to find it. I had it on my arm. It was you?

No, no. They picked it up and they thought it was Amy's bracelet because Amy wears all that, you know, all that stuff. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'll take it. She's my roommate. I'll put it on. Yeah, put it on, bring it upstairs. Right, right, right.

Okay, all your favorite earrings. And I have your dress. Anyway, you guys have been wonderful. I would, if you ever want me to go on the road with you, if you ever wanted to do wine, I mean, I love this. We're going to let you know when we're going to be out your way for sure. And this was so much fun. Thank you so much for joining us.

Hey, let's our final toast. Toast to the Golden Bachelor ladies. We are toasting you, Robin, and we want to thank you and thank you to all of our listeners. Be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming out every week and you don't want to miss even one. Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Have a great day. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes,

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